>> tucker: february 14, 2022, the day canada abandoned democracy and became a dictatorship. regulating everyone's cryptocurrency. will our leaders notice? will anyone say anything? we will be watching. hope you have the best night. we'll be back tomorrow and every weeknight. in the meantime, sean hannity takes over. >> sean: thank you. welcome to a busy news night tonight. there is breaking news all over the world. in a moment we will check in on canada where the country's wannabe socialist dictator justin trudeau, the emergency powers act, illegal, all in an effort to stomp out peaceful protests taking place in ottawa. is the wimpy, cowardly, gutless justin, what are you planning, sending in the police or the military to hurt the heroes of the pandemic? is that your plan? apparently he now wants to treat

freedom loving truckers like terrorists, freeze their bank accounts, sees their property come up with them in jail, take their rigs. with justin trudeau i guess the apple doesn't fall from the tree, does it? also tonight, anthony weiner out of jail. he will join us straight ahead. it appears to be the biggest election and presidential spying scandal in the history of this great country. i'm going to go through this slowly because without a doubt, unequivocally, the trump campaign, their campaign, their transition team, even the trump white house, meaning the president, was spied on by the clinton campaign. it is far worse than what we have known until now and we reported on this now for three years. thanks to a brand-new filing from the special counsel, john durham, we now know that the clinton campaign plated -- paid a tech firm to infiltrate the servers at trump tower and then later infiltrate the servers at the trump white house. in other words illegally spying

on a presidential candidate and later a president of the united states. their end goal, fabricate evidence that president trump was a russian asset or a russian stooge of some kind. make no mistake. this is far worse than watergate. let's go through the step-by-step. let me refresh many people's memories. maybe you don't have a reference point of watergate. the watergate scandal involved associates that were linked to the 1972 nixon reelection campaign. these associates, they broke into dnc headquarters at washington, d.c.,'s watergate office building. they stole campaign documents. they attempted to bug phones. in the end, 69 people were indicted. 48 people were convicted. richard nixon ended up resigning a disgrace for his part in the cover-up of this. of course businesses conducted a little differently in 1972 versus 2016 when this all went down. in the age of the internet, you don't need to break into a

building to steal your opponents information. you just need access to their server. that is exactly what the clinton campaign did. here's where the it's even worse than watergate. not only do they hack into the opposing campaign and still material like in the case of watergate but then they hacked into the office of the president of this great country, according to durham's blockbuster filing late friday. this is something maybe we would expect from russia, china, iran, north korea. not an american political campaign. clearly the clinton machine was willing to do anything and everything, legal and illegal to win and election. when that didn't work, to smear and destroy the guy that legitimately won that election. if this filing is accurate, it's all illegal. everyone involved should go to jail, just like watergate, except this is far worse. don't take my word for it. take a look at what nancy pelosi

once had to say after the democratic congressional campaign committee was hacked in a similar fashion by a foreign government, not by republicans, in 2016. take a look at. >> in terms of the presidential campaign, this is an electronic watergate. this is an electronic watergate. this is a break-in. this is a break-in. i think that we have to recognize what is happening here. russians broke in, who did they give the information to? i don't know. who dumped it. i don't know. i do know this is a watergate like electronic break-in. >> sean: nancy is right. hillary clinton's campaign was involved in electronic watergate. surprise, surprise. nancy is totally, completely utterly silent about durham's revelation. so is the biden administration. the executive office of the president was surveilled but the white house can't be bothered to answer one single question about

it? maybe that's because biden's national security advisor, that guy right there, jake sullivan, he's at the center of this entire scandal. here's where the story takes yet another turn. stay with us. after infiltrating the servers of the trump tower, and the executive office of the resident, and spying on our opponent and then the president, the clinton campaign found no evidence in any form or fashion that trump was a russian asset so they just fabricated all of this out of thin air. jake sullivan was a senior policy advisor for hillary clinton in 2016. propagated a bogus story about trump's secret lying to russia. naturally, sullivan's wife, to make it more interesting, works for the attorney general of the united states, merrick garland, who oversees the durham pro. he would need to recuse himself. she needs to recuse herself. republicans need to demand the ag takes her off anything

involving the durham investigation. jake sullivan, he needs to answer questions about his role in the clinton campaign's illicit activities as of now. in other words, what did he know? what did hillary know? when did they know it? mitch mcconnell, by the way, where are you in all of this? is spying on the president and presidential candidates, is it okay with everybody in washington? think about what we knew before this filing of john durham. what we've known for a long time we spend nearly three years investigating right here on the show. we knew about christopher steele's debunked, dirty russian disinformation dossier bought and paid for by henry content and of course the money was funneled through a law firm, perkins gooey. fusion gps and they hired christopher steele. we told you that story a million times. the fbi then use that material as the basis for the russia witch hunts. to do that of the top of a fisa warrant has verified, we know it's totally debunked.

none of it was true. it was all unverifiable. they found out it was unverified and still continue to use hillary's dirty russian dossier. fisa warrants against the trump campaign associate carter page. guess what. they did it all. was is even worse than all of that. according to andrew mccabe, if there is no dossier, that would be no fisa warrant granted. now we know that hillary clinton and her campaign was spying on donald trump's internet activity. as a matter fact, the entire trump tower, the entire white house, as a candidate and by the way now as president, that too was bought and paid for by hillary clinton's attorneys. when they came up empty, jake sullivan was more than happy to disseminate unverified rumors and conspiracy theories has fact. in other words, president trump, he was right the whole time. this might remind you. speak of the biggest scandals when they spied on my campaign. they spied on my campaign. >> there's no real evidence of

that. >> yes there is, it's all over the place breathlessly, they spied on my campaign. speak of is "60 minutes" and we can't put on things we can verify. >> because it's bad for biden. leslie, they spied on my campaign. it's been totally verified. go down to get the papers. they spied end campaign, they got caught and then they went much further than that they got caught. he will see that, leslie. and you know that but you just don't want to -- >> no come as a matter of fact, i don't know that. >> sean: leslie, now you do. now you can go on "60 minutes" on sunday and issue an apology. we'll be waiting for that. i doubt they even covered the story. by the way, the same goes for fake news cnn. they spent three years lying to the american people. msdnc, by the way, probably a very convenient time for the conspiracy theorists of all time, rachel maddow, to be on "leave." you know what, they gave more time to this than any other

story. three years of the trump presidency. you'd think they would spend a minute and inform their viewers that they were wrong the entire time and update them on this new development. where is bob woodward? where is bernstein, carl bernstein? remember they once cared about "journalism" and their top-secret source. they broke the watergate story wide open. now they are nowhere to be found and apparently politics is much more important than quote journalism." the reason the media will ignore the story that's bigger than watergate is because they are accomplices. the entire time. they have live the entire time. they advanced their propaganda almost 24 hours a day seven days a week and they did it for over three years. they knew and they know the dossier was alive but their hatred of donald trump was more important than the truth. they have never set the record straight, never made a correction, never admitted they

were wrong. "new york times," "washington post," they cut pulitzers for fall stories. maggie, it's time to return it. by the way what about the congenital liar adam schiff? he sits on the january 6 committee. they said campaign rhetoric and talk about elections has brought us to this point. okay, adam schiff, or you know whatever we want to call you, the congenital liar, if you really care about election and appearances, is it okay when hillary clinton does it? because adam schiff come on that january 6 committee, is the biggest purveyor of election fraud lies ever. he's going to be critical of donald trump? we need an investigation into him. thankfully durham doesn't take orders from schiff or fake news cnn or anyone else in the media mob. john durham has been taking forever. but he is supposedly looking for the truth and he is giving us a window into what he's finding add to that end according to foxnews.com, his probe is accelerating.

more people are cooperating and testifying before a grand jury. i can't predict what durham will ultimately find. nobody's been held accountable for the lies they made to the fisa court that we know they may lies. they knew they were lying. i do know that as of now, all roads lead back to one person and one campaign. that's hillary clinton and her campaign. i hope one day very soon her campaign will be held accountable for the worst political spying scandal in the history of this country. that's how important it is. here with more from the trump organization is eric trump. i want to just go through is here. so what we have, lawyers for the clinton campaign paid a technology firm to infiltrate servers where you work, when you worked in trump tower when your dad was running. later in the white house when your dad was the president. they did it to establish and inference in a false narrative to bring government agencies to link donald trump to russia.

that to me would be the biggest scandal in the history of modern politics if not the presidency. but yet there is crickets in the media. why? >> sean, it is the biggest scandal. it really is the biggest scandal. leslie stahl owes my father an apology. "the new york times" was my father an apology. "the washington post" owes my father and apology paired with a date is atrocious. hillary almost by default created another cold war. she pitted america against russia, to the biggest nuclear superpowers in the world, she pitted them against each other to hopefully get a couple extra greedy votes for herself. now it's all backfiring. i remember the day, i remember it like it was yesterday when we got a call for "the new york times" and "the wall street journal" and they asked, we have information saying the trump organization has hidden servers that link directly with the kremlin bank. i am saying, what are you people talking about question if we

don't have -- we have nothing to do with russia. we have no servers. it wasn't until years later until the indictments that we figured out who this guy was and what exactly was happening. this is awful, awful stuff. literally to the biggest countries in the world get pitted against each other for the benefit of one candidate's greed. how many millions of hours of testimony on capitol hill, how many tens and tens and tens of millions of dollars are wasted? three years of my father's administration. it was spent dealing with his hoax. all for that woman on the screen right there. when she did to the country was atrocious. somebody has to pay for it. you know, sean, every single day they come after us. new york prosecutors come after us every single day on these political witch hunts trying to find anything they possibly can. that's all this is. this is the weaponization of politics in this country and its third world and it has to stop and it has to stop now. >> sean: so they paid people

to infiltrate the servers at trump tower when your dad was a candidate, then the white house, which is unbelievable to me when your dad is the president. and this is separate and apart. this is on top of hillary clinton paying for the dirty russian misinformation dossier that we know in fact was full of lies but yet was presented to a fisa court on four separate occasions. bruce ohr in august of 2016, warned not to use the document, and it's unverifiable. they learned in december of 2016 that they shouldn't have used it. then the sub source of christopher steele said it's nothing but bogus. it was bar talk. none of it is true but yet they continue to go for the fisa court and purposely put forward false information that they know is unverified and unverifiable. those people have yet to be held accountable, eric. we known -- we known this for years. i don't really have a lot of hope there's equal justice and

application of our loss any longer in the united states of america. >> but look at the slanderous statement, sean. look at the things they said my father was doing. look at the statements that they made up, these allegations, the lies. then they find out hillary pay for the entire thing. no different than they found out that when michael sussman went in lying to the fbi about the fact that trump reportedly had secret servers all over trump organization that was talking to russian banks, he was getting paid by the honey campaign. by the way, or at what point is it acceptable to break into the service of the white house. that is the most cherished building in this country. that has the most top-secret everything in this country that runs our government. and it's okay just to break into service? why, because you're a democrat? can you imagine if my father broke into servers and the obama administration? it would be capital punishment, sean. >> sean: if the trump campaign did this to hillary, that's all anybody in the mob and the media would talk about.

if hunter's last name was trump, that's all anybody would talk about. that's a big problem for this country moving forward. we have a two-tier justice system. >> and where are the prosecutors right now? the same prosecutors that will go after my father for nothing because they want to disqualify him because he is clearly the front runner for 2024. hillary rodham clinton is a new york resident. let me break that down. she lives in chappaqua, new york. guests were at trump tower is located? on fifth avenue in new york. where are the prosecutors? where's the d.a.? isn't that fraud? is not all sorts of offenses? where is letitia james in this whole thing? is she just going to ignore this because hillary happens to be in her political party? >> sean: we will lose the country, eric. it's over. i've got to roll. this is the biggest scandal,

spying scandal ever? whether or not we get to the bottom of this is going to -- it will speak volumes about what we can expect this country to turn into. we appreciate you being with us. thank you. >> karma flow. it will happen. >> sean: here now, the author of "here's the deal," kellyanne conway, on author of "political prisoner." former trump campaign manager paul manafort. former white house chief of staff mark meadows. mark, let me start with you, paul, because of you went through. you now hear this and all the things that you got caught up in in a case that had been long in mothballs. they dragged it out. put you in jail and said if you say this, we'll let you out of jail which you didn't do. >> i mean, as eric just said, it's payback time.

the whole mueller predicate was the fake steele dossier, the fake black ledger, the fake ties with the banks between the servers of trump and russia. that was the basis. by which mueller was appointed and he found nothing yet he kept going. what you see now with what durham is doing, the facts that mueller couldn't find. he's got the evidence mueller couldn't get to. he is proving the case that with the democrats accused republicans of is a good forecast of what they're doing. that's what you see. it's outrageous. it's outrageous. >> sean: mark, one of the things why i don't have a lot of confidence tonight, although all of this is now, durham wouldn't put it in his findings because that's the evidence he is saying he is going to present before a court, if it wasn't true, but i don't have a lot of confidence because we already knew about the dirty russian dossier that hillary paid for that was unverifiable.

they knew it was unverifiable and they still used it to spy on donald trump the candidate, the transition team, and then donald trump the president. they were spying on him every which way and sideways. >> we know that when donald trump said that they were spying on his campaign, he got all kinds of pushback. when jim jordan and myself said that they were spying on his campaign, we were ridiculed. here's what we do know. this particular allegation in the filings that have been made by the special prosecutor is really starting to connect the dots for the first time. we've had john durham out there and i know a lot of people have said, where is john durham? but nobody has had really much of an insight if any insight into the investigation that he has been conducting. i can remember i had asked jim baker, i'm trying to figure out, jim, if you're a good guy or bad guy.

>> sean: i've never seen anything this bad in my entire life politically. this makes watergate look like kindergarten to me. >> it's really bad. i was there for all of it, on the campaign in trump tower and certainly the white house. my new book that you just talked about has brand-new details about january 5th and january 6,

2017. january 6 is the day the intelligence officers go to trump tower. and there is jim comey in the middle of a 10-year fbi term and he wants to stay on as director but he didn't make his way until trump tower until january 6, 2 full months after the election. it was the day before that i was at the white house, the obama white house, for a transition lunch and while i was there, upstairs they were cooking this out. call me, brandon, suzanne rice, barack obama. they were being briefed on what was going to happen. guess what i learned today. the clinton people have no faith in her. no confidence in her competence. they had to cut corners and cheat and lie. they had to perfume the pig. have to make the candidate something she is not. we had tremendous faith in our candidate to get the job done. to go out there and connect with people. "the washington post" "abc news" poll during the end of the 2016 campaign said that 62% of americans had hillary was

neither honest nor trustworthy. her campaign knew that wasn't the case. they had to hurry up and do other things to tried to get her over the finish line. then when she failed to win in 2016, they were still trying to get her in there. very quickly, sussman, you've got to look at these names. these are folks who in the case, he pled guilty and was charged with altering an email that led to the lisa page fisa warrant mess. and then sussman and the other guy, they have been charged with lies. they are lying to the fbi. what sussman lied about was that he went to fbi counsel james baker and lied and said he wasn't there on behalf of any candidate. he acted like he was a do-gooder, a public servant, when the clinton people had paid for him. all those who investigated the hours and hours of coverage, let's at least have our due and dig a little bit deeper and see where this takes us. >> sean: may be they'll have a committee on this. kellyanne, looking forward to your book.

paul, in your book, you will describe that you are pretty much given to wink and a nod. if you tell us what you've heard about trump, whether it's true or not, you can walk out the door and you will be in prison anymore. is that true? you'll tell that story in your book? >> i'll be talking about the special prosecutor trying to get me to accept the narratives that they were weaving which was not a correct narrative. now you can start to see the dots as to what the whole game was all about. shouldn't have been appointed in the first place. >> sean: mark, thank you. paul, thank you. kellyanne, thank you. looking forward to both of your books. coming up, canadian truckers continue to take a stand against draconian vaccine mandates for the coward of the north, justin trudeau, moving to shut them down. what will he do to the heroes of the pandemic? it appears it might be severe. straight ahead.

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>> sean: the freedom convoy is standing strong, standing up against one-size-fits-all medicine. they are getting results as ontario is the latest canadian province to scrap their vaccine mandate bringing the total to five provinces who have gotten rid of the mandate, big win for the truckers and by the way the truckers, they say they're not going anywhere. have a spineless coward gutless biden of the north justin trudeau and now he says he's invoking the so-called emergencies act, invoking powers that canada has never invoked before the country's history. trying to attack what has been a peaceful gathering of truckers and others and attack their civil liberties. let me be clear. what trudeau's signaling is an all-out authoritarian dictatorial crackdown against an overwhelmingly peaceful protest.

rather than meet with the heroes of the pandemic that kept canada alive in their worst moments, rather than negotiate a settlement, rather than listen to their legitimate concerns, he's acting like an authoritarian thug cracking down with the full force of government on the heroes of the pandemic. taking orders from what joe biden, u.s. president who has done nothing to secure his ? the truckers are allowing commerce. the event peaceful. what is justin going to do? are you going to send in the military, police, crack a few heads, arrest people, imprison people, confiscate their livelihood, their rigs come up with them in jail, find them 100 grand as they are talking about? it gets worse because as part of a crack down the deputy prime ministries saying they are broadening the country's terrorist prevent the truckers from accessing the donations come with crowdfunding platforms and from even using

cryptocurrency. wow. talk about authoritarianism. take a look. >> we are broadening the scope of canada's anti-money laundering and terrorist financing rules so they cover crowdfunding platforms and the payment service providers they use. we are making these changes because we know that these platforms are being used to support illegal blockades and illegal activity. which is damaging the canadian economy. >> sean: broadening the terrorist financing rules? the guys that helped keep canada alive during the pandemic. here with more on the ground in ottawa, fox news correspondent alexis mcadams. what's going on tonight? >> hi, sean. you can see behind me no matter what the prime minister says according to the truckers in the convoy, they are not going anywhere. the more press they get, they are going to give 100,000 canadian dollars worth of fines. just send them to jail. take their trucking license.

they've tried it. not much has changed here in the past few weeks. every single weekend it really does pick up and even here on a monday night you can see the crowds are still pretty thick right here in the middle right front of parliament. protesters in ottawa tell me they are just getting started. this is the first time in canadian history that they've used the emergencies act here in canada, and is now in effect for 30 days. that means trucks will be towed away and the prime minister has threatened to freeze the bank accounts of the truckers if they don't go home. the announcement coming is the freedom convoy has taken over canada's capital. 400 semi trucks still lined up in front of parliament tonight even as the canadian government threatens the group with fines and jail time. ontario is now the process of rolling back covert restrictions, including vaccine passports, but the truckers i've talked to on the ground, sean, they say that's not enough. listen. >> we need to tighten up what is defining as an emergency and ensure that they can just use those powers whenever they feel

that there is an emergency. >> none of us are moving or leaving. we are here until we get what we want to. >> what if they take your truckers license? >> they have been threatening things like that. the councilman have been friendly with us and we been friendly with them. i have no fears at all. >> we have been seeing too many police out -- we haven't seen too many police officers. david outnumbered by protesters. the prime minister saying that he sending in more resources. there is a state of emergency. hasn't had much impact. something to point out, how quickly and how much they have packed into this area in front of parliament. more trucks they are today and they are trying to put it into an area that even if they do try to come in and told them they won't be able to get in and move the tow trucks around. still a lot more that needs to be done. another thing i thought you think was interesting was we talked to some of the convoy and they told us they had a police escort by the ottawa pd to move out of the neighborhoods today and in front of parliament. no matter what the

prime minister is saying, there is still more truckers with his convoy they are not going anywhere. >> sean: alexis mcadams, thank you. here with more reaction, ezra levant. the emergency powers for the first time, they are talking about putting these heroes of the pandemic in jail. $100,000 fines, confiscate their rig. take away their licenses, destroy their livelihoods. for what? when five provinces have already gotten rid of the mandate on the rest of the world is getting rid of their mandates, even in washington, d.c., all across america come all across europe. why won't trudeau budge even a little bit and talk to these guys? >> well, i think that trudeau sees an opportunity. by the way, these emergencies acts weren't even invoked after 9/11. they weren't invoked when there was a terrorist attack on

canada's parliament itself. but he is deeming these truckers to be terrorists. you heard that deputy prime minister who, by the way, it happens to be a governor of the world economic forum. he is using this crisis as a pretext for going after the banking information of all of his political opponents. there is no revolution in the streets of canada. you see for yourself. it's a festival environment. there is no violence. it's happy. moms and dads and kids. trudeau is claiming they are dangerous. claiming they are terrorists so he can seize bank accounts, the most scary thing announced today by the finance minister who was on the world economic forum board is that banks will be directed to seize your accounts without due process and you cannot even sue them. they are indemnified. he is going after his political

opponents to seize their resources venezuela style. >> sean: i've got to tell you, i never thought i would see it in canada but i see that the truckers are winning. i think these five provinces, it's a significant win. if he wasn't going to this extreme, the truckers have been peaceful. if this turns into something else because he is sending people in there directly to confront them, i can't guarantee that at that point people won't defend themselves. is trudeau that stupid? he doesn't seem that bright to me. >> i don't think that any canadian police would actually assault a trucker, shoot a trucker, god forbid. canadian police see what's going on. there was some honking and auto loss of his court order against using your air horns and residential areas. they cleared the bridge between detroit and windsor. the rest of it is frankly parking offenses, minor matters.

you're not going to see real cops get violent over that. trudeau is not going to get violent. he's going to get financial, he's going to get china social credit style. he's going to use it as an excuse to get a database for everyone who chipped in for the truckers and put them on an enemies list and sees the bank accounts of his enemies. he's not going to go in with fists. he's going to go in financially using laws that were built for actual terrorists. >> sean: i need to get on the list. have to donate to a fund that i know will get to them. i don't really give a damn what trudeau thinks about me but i do care about these truckers, a year ago they were heroes and now all of a sudden everybody else around the world is lifting these draconian mandates and he's unwilling to do it and now he's going to put the heavy hand of government down on them. we stand with the truckers. please let them know most of america stands with them as well. thank you thank you. >> right on. >> sean: coming out, the

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again was seen without a mask over claiming weeks ago it was okay when he took it off to take a picture because he held his breath rules for thee, not for me. here with reaction, clay travis, outnumbered cohost best-selling author kayleigh mcenany. did he hold his breath for the whole super bowl? if he did, that's a miracle. i would like to know how he did it. >> this is the second time he has been caught maskless. you think after being caught one time, he would change it but no, i guess he was holding his breath. nothing is more illustrative of the level of hypocrisy here than the fact that all these celebrities have no masks but the l.a. kids orchestra, they are masked up outside. they have their cellos, their violins and their masks on, a symbol of a generation that's been forced to mask up. my daughter, one of her first words was mask. how sad. this is what we did our children. but hey, you're a celebrity.

your island to generous, eric garcetti, don't wear the mask. >> sean: i don't have a problem. we are fully vaccinated, boosters, people with natural immunity can get covid and transmit covid. everybody is capable of it whether you forced everybody to get a vaccine and a or not. so it's now about freedom of choice, isn't it? >> i think it is. it's important to note that all of those celebrities that your flashing on the screen, they are blatantly violating the sophia stadium super bowl mask mandates. they were supposed to be masked. they chose not to be masked. all of us at this point especially children should be able to choose not to be masked too. the people who are under, thankfully, the absolute lowest amount of danger in the entire country from covid our kids. yet we are making them the last people to be able to take their masks off. it's nonsensical. stacey abrams last week, you saw

the pictures, she is in obese adults. she is under significant danger compared to young children who are not in danger. this is a failure. over 100 million people watched the super bowl and they saw no one wearing a mask. and then millions of schoolkids this morning had to put masks on to go to school. end at all now. if parents want to put their kids and masks, they can do it but they shouldn't be forced to have to wear masks. it's a travesty that we continue to make them. >> sean: i actually like my mask, to be blunt. i like it because it gives me a slight bit of anonymity that i have lost over the years. having a mask, a hat, dark glasses, i do pretty good so i'm going to be wearing my mask. >> you could rob a bank if you needed to. >> sean: i look a lot better with my face covered. thank you both. when we come back and our friend curtis sliwa and former congressman anthony weiner joining forces.

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>> sean: new show on wabc radio in new york exploring the left-right divide and major issues affecting new york city and beyond. former new york congressman anthony weiner. he was released in 2019 and he says he's ready to answer tough questions about his own life. the challenges facing the country. he is joining our friend curtis sliwa with a new show, they are cohosting. anthony weiner, thank you for being with us. curtis sliwa, always good to see you, my friend. i guess the first question that i have is you pled guilty, anthony, to the sending obscene

materials to a young girl, 15-year-old girl. you pled guilty. you served jail time. have you changed? are you a different person? >> well, i think so. i don't think anyone can go through that kind of experience and i think this is probably true of people who have been through other types of adversity. i don't think you go through that type of experience and don't emerge changed. >> sean: wait a minute. that is an obscure answer. "i think so." either you know when your heart if you've changed or you know when your heart that you didn't change. can you assure people, because you are going to try to draw in an audience and they're going to want to know if you've changed or not. have you changed? >> they can judge for themselves. >> sean: i'm sorry? >> i said they can judge for themselves. i am not out to persuade you or anyone else that i've changed.

i mean, i am doing a radio show and people can call in and then ask me questions. we did one this past saturday where people had an opportunity to call in. asking questions and i answer them the best i can. in terms of trying to draw someone in. i'm not trying to make someone like me or be persuaded of any particular outlook on the pier where going to have some conversations about things going on in new york city and other places and hopefully people will tune in to the show but i'm not terribly interested in trying to make them feel any differently about me. >> sean: curtis, i would say between the two of us, we have anywhere between 60 and 70 years of talk radio experience we've been friends for a long time. one of the things about talk radio, it's a hard media. have to connect with somebody on a visceral level because they can't see you. i am listening to anthony's answer. it doesn't sound that convincing to me. i would think that if it was me, i would want to convince people

that i'm a different person. that i changed, that i learned my lesson. that i am moving forward in a different direction in my life. how did you feel about the answers you got? >> i actually did two weeks of programming with anthony before his life just imploded. he's a good talk show host. he reveals much of his feelings. i feel he's on solid ground. our owner operator, who as you know saved wabc from the scrap heap. it would have never again then wabc if he had rescued it. he believes in giving people a second chance. bill o'reilly. i can run through a whole list of people who are my colleagues who he has given a second chance. he believes in that. let's face it, we need to give people a second chance. we saw that in the trump administration when he cut the jail time of so many people that we didn't realize were being

incarcerated 20, 30, 40 years. i think all of us, democrats and republicans, we have come to a conclusion that if you've done your time, if you pay the price for what you did, it's time to come back into the fold. i must tell you if anthony weiner had not had his personal problems, we wouldn't have had bill de blasio for eight years who single-handedly destroyed our city. i'm telling you. >> sean: we have been friends for a long time. i would just recommend in the sense that if it was something this serious that there's got to be, let me fall on the sword, admit and tell people what's different about me at this point. i would think going to jail is different. this is what i learned. this is the help that i got. this is how -- >> if you want, you can tune in to the show and you can hear it. >> sean: you are on my show now. i'm giving to the chance now.

>> you invited me to come on then then you say, did you change? can i answer the question. i said i believe i did. i believe this kind of expense would change any person. having a conversation with curtis with me sitting here about my answer. all i can do is give you the answer. >> sean: i would've expected more sincerity, more heartfelt, more repentant. the word from latin means to change one's heart. i agree with curtis. i am not the guy that calls for canceling. >> it's not something and i appreciate it and i appreciate you having me on the show. it's fine and i'm glad to be here and i'm grateful to curtis. he and i have a good show. i've always in my political life and more concerned about things on brighton beach avenue than brighton england. talking about new york city issues. i am over the belief that the way you demonstrate that you've changed is for other people to perceive it. for other people to see that you

are dealing -- >> sean: after you tell that story -- the last words would be. >> let me finish my thought. >> sean: time will prove me right or wrong if i am being heartfelt with you. >> perhaps you should help do the prep for the "hannity" show for your guests. i was given the answer as best i can. >> sean: curtis, curtis never stops working. if he's not on the air he's in the subways. he does never stop. curtis, are you happy? how is the audience responding? >> listen in. you listen to talk radio and then give me your opinion. we have two full hours. i will get deep into the mind-set of anthony weiner. i promise you that. >> sean: i will listen. curtis, we have been friends a long time friend anthony, i hope you've changed and godspeed.

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