to diplomacy. moscow needs to demonstrate that its serious. the last 24 hours, they have demonstrated the opposite. it hasn't been serious to date. we made clear that in the context of a russia invasion that we would not go forward with that meeting. if moscow's approach changes, we remain very much prepared to engage. with regard to president putin's statement about nato and the open door. it's very clear what we've president putin has made clear is this is about the total subjugation of ukraine to russia. it's about reconstituting the

russian empire, or short of that, the sphere of influence, or short of that, the neutrality of countries surrounding russia. the issue of ukraine and nato has been an excuse to mask the fact that what this is about is president putin's view that ukraine is not a sovereign country, that it does not have an existence or independence, not associated in some fashion with russia, a proposition that we not only firmly reject, but so does virtually every ukrainian. >> i can only reiterate what was said. it's a choice of the people of ukraine. no one but the ukraine and nato will decide on the future of our

relationship. just an excuse, even if we did nothing, president putin will find a reason to accuse us of doing something. regarding our plans to locate -- we do not have such plans. we have to go plans. plan a is to utilize every tool of diplomacy to deter russia and prevent further escalation, and if that fails, plan b is to fight for every inch of our land, every city, every village. to fight until we win, of course. regarding the list of extermination, no, we have not officially received it.

i wouldn't exclude that it could exist. >> reporter: >> from your perspective -- alive or dead, and do the united states recognize any obligations under it? and, what actions do you expect from partners to be taken? thank you. >> in effect, russia began to tear them up in 2014, when it seized crimea. and, backing, financing, supporting the separatists and waging war. i think what we've seen in the last 24 hours is the further repudiation of budapest by russia. by our part, we have worked hard

over many years, and especially over the last year, to do everything we can to support the ukraine and its territorial security. humanitarian assistance, financial assistance. just about ten days ago, we provided an additional loan guarantee of $1 billion to ukraine, and of course, leading the effort internationally to build support for the ukraine in this hour of need. we stand very much behind that support, doing everything we can to uphold ukraine's independence, security, well-being. >> the budapest memorandum is not a collective defense, so the truth is that no one promised us they would fight for us.

this is not the subject matter. they will themselves not use force against us, and second, if that happens, they will do their utmost to stop it. this should be the subject of the consultations that the ukraine has initiated recently. countries who belong to this political field created by the budapest memorandum have to come together and reach an agreement on which specific action they take to protect the ukraine.

we understand that is one of the signature areas, and that this memorandum -- is russia, that as secretary blinken rightly said, invalidates all national and international agreements. this does not waive their response abilities to do their best in order to help ukraine. ukraine exists in a security vacuum. it deters some forces, but we fully -- believe that the decisions taken in '90-'94, when the memorandum was concluded to, they should be respected, because we have sacrificed a lot.

to make a long story short, we did a lot to strengthen global security by abandoning our nuclear arsenal. we expect, on the principle of reciprocity, it would be a huge contribution to ensuring ukraine's security -- >> reporter: foreign minister, there was a suggestion of what we have seen so far of the minor invasion, but there's more to come, and warrants some lesser u.s. sanctions. i wonder if that is your read as well. also, your president called for tough sanctions to be placed on russia before the invasion. are you happy with that in mind, the way the u.s. handled this? what more would you like to see from the u.s. and the international community to try and deter more aggression? given that russia has invaded

ukraine, regardless of the threats of harsh sanctions, the attempts at diplomacy, what makes you think that continuing down the same path would help any further? do you think it's time to change tact? do you think diplomacy has failed? secondly, have you underestimated putin? >> first, there is no such thing as minor, middle, or major invasion. invasion is invasion. second, as i said earlier, we appreciate sanctions which were announced today. they target russia very specifically. i can say, frankly, that yesterday, when we learned about the first executive order for both sanctions related to economic activities, we were puzzled, because we saw how the

site that sought recognition from russia is being punished, but we did not see how russia granted this recognition, but we saw today, and this strategy of imposing sanctions by -- if i might put it this way, is something that can work if it continues in a -- president putin should not have a single minute when he starts to think "this is the threshold, the pressure has reached its ceiling." and, he would not be punished anymore. the pressure should continue to be stepped up, and if that involves regulations of executive orders on new sanctions, we will be more than happy -- i will repeat again: we can,

despite the horrific -- by president putin, where he basically challenged -- he rejected the existence of the ukrainian state. we can still stop him. if we act in a resolved way and keep mounting pressure -- the question is, he has certain things on his mind that i'm not aware of, but i'm sure he has it. we should also understand that every negative decision should be taken in a swift action. we saw two executive orders issued by president biden in less than 24 hours. this may be the economics that will have to be upheld if russia continues to escalate. it's encouraging to hear from the secretary, a very simple sentence: if russia escalates,

the united states and partners will escalate sanctions. this is what has to happen moving forward, and yes, we did believe that it would be helpful for -- not all sanctions, but some sanctions to be both before the invasion begins as a preemptive measure for what they had done before. this becomes obsolete now. we have focused on a different strategy. >> it's hard for me to improve much on my friends answer. i will just add a couple of things. first, all along, we said we were pursuing two tracks: the track of diplomacy and dialogue to try to persuade russia not to engage in renewed aggression against the ukraine, and at the same time, a track where we were building a deterrence, and

building a response that would have massive consequences for russia. russia has clearly chosen to reject diplomacy and dialogue, and instead to pursue aggression. as a consequence, we have started to pursue the severe consequences that we have made clear in following renewed russian aggression. today, we face the beginning of russia's invasion of the ukraine. we started high and will stay high. the sanctions that we've already announced go well beyond what we did in 2014. full blocking sanctions against two of russia's largest national institutions. they hold more than $80 billion in assets, provide key services that are critical to financing with russian terry. we have tom prince of sanctions against russian sovereign debt, but that means we are cutting

off the russian government from the western -- sanctions on famy numbers, and as promised, as we said all along, germany taking action on norton stream to to repeat what was just emphasized, we have made clear today that if russia continues to skillet, so will we. it is not only of sanctions and other measures of that nature that are being taken. it is, as we've made clear, the reinforcement of nato and its eastern flank, and increasing the support that we are providing to ukraine against every dimension: security, diplomatic, economic, humanitarian. all of that is in the mix. ultimately, president clinton makes whatever decisions he makes. ultimately, president putin

makes whatever decisions he makes. we can try to shake those decisions, but as we've said all along, we are prepared either way and have demonstrated that again today. i think we have not underestimated him. we have laid out, for the world, his playbook that he is now following. it's making very clear that, for example, what was laid out at the united nations a week ago is exactly what's happening. >> we will take a final question. >> reporter: i am interested in your opinion about -- what happened in the ukraine last night. one says it will not work anymore, and would be replaced ukraine, and secondly, i've a question that will be naive.

if russian troops moved forward, or enter eat more ukrainian territory, what will happen next, and what will america do? >> sec. blinken: with regard to the normandy format, i think the question is best directed at president putin. as far as we can see, by the actions he's taken, he has rejected it, and has in effect torn up the dash which the normandy format was designed to advance. if russia is at all serious about resolving the conflict it created, pursuant to the agreements -- it is of course showing the exact opposite. the question is really -- we

have supported the normandy format all along with france, germany, ukraine, russia. throughout, ukraine has worked very hard to make good on its commitments. russia has done the opposite. what we've seen over the last 24 hours would seem to be the final repudiation of this by russia. again, you would have to ask president putin. with regard to what comes next, as i said a moment ago, and as we've said all along, if russia pursues its aggression against ukraine, people will face the consequences that not only the united states, but virtually all of our allies and partners, have made clear what we follow. you've heard this from the g7, the leading democratic economists in the world, the

european union, and from nato. that concludes what we have started with today, and that is very severe economic and financial sanctions that will have significant costs for russia. it includes the reinforcement of nato, and the defense of all allies in nato, and includes additional assistance to ukraine in every area: security, diplomatic, political, economic, humanitarian. all that will follow. if russia escalates, so will we. >> thank you, mr. secretary, mr. minister. >> jesse: that was antony blinken, biden's secretary of state, and the ukrainian foreign minister together at the state department, talking about

sanctions. ukrainian foreign minister thanked the americans profusely for our full diplomatic, economic, and military support of their country, and hinted that there is not full unity within europe. the foreign minister said that it's one thing to condemn, but action hass to follow condemnation, so there is some splits occurring between european powers. your reaction to what we saw there in the state department, and what you heard from president biden this afternoon. >> a lot of talk about agreements, sanctions. what i saw in that room was impotence and resignation. two people resigned to whatever vladimir putin decided to do. antony blinken talked about laying out the playbook. we have laid it out at every step of what vladimir putin has done, except it doesn't feel like we have done it as a rough or a coach or a player, more like an observer outside of what is happening.

resigned, because the leverage we once had, which is ultimately energy -- russia supplies 10% of the world's oil, one-third of europe's oil, 60% of germany's oil. back to ronald reagan, we were trying to stop pipelines from the ussr to europe. donald trump wanted to stop it, so they had that leverage, those opportunities. we are just an observer at this point. dana, we were talking as we were watching about "where's the pound the table moment?" this is a challenge between what vladimir putin wants to do kijiji pain and china, the world they want to replace, and they want to undo what was a naive western foreign policy consensus. you liberalize, open up to china and russia, you let them open up your -- democracy, freedom, and other benefits will come from that. instead, auto have enriched themselves in the hope of making russia great again.

we are on the sidelines and saying "we will ratchet up the sanctions." do you think vladimir putin is considered about what we've talked about so far? that's why it felt impotence. >> lee american people are concerned about the price of gas, they say "there will be costs jammed up on russia, but they will also hit the american driver good" >> president biden: defending freedom will have costs for us as well, and here at home. we need it to be honest about that. as we do this, i'm going to take robust action to make sure that the pain of ours sanctions is targeted at the russian economy, not ours. >> i don't believe that at all, but do you think he explained why we are going to be paying these? >> i think energy is the biggest story out of this. it is the backbone of every economy. for so many years, we've been

talking about climate change, figuring out a way to get electric vehicles. it's a great goal, but you cannot change the laws of physics. fossil fuels are so important. we are seeing that play out. russia is probably over dependent on oil and gas for its economy, but we are under dependent. europe is a disaster. they have been told since the reagan administration "do not make yourselves dependent." >> called russia a gas station with nukes. >> president biden today is talking about that gas prices could go up, but let's be clear: they were already up. we had supply chain issues and policy decisions made by president biden in his first day in office, amongst other things, canceling oil and gas leaks that make us more vulnerable to these kinds of things. energy is the most important thing. this is the price countries pay when they give up energy independence. we are seeing that play out on the world stage. a couple of things that the secretary said, not a "pound the

table moment," but if "putin decides to escalate, so will we." but what does that mean? if putin does not care about sanctions, and what's the next step? will we provide aid to any insurgency? i will also point out that the foreign minister of ukraine pointed out that the "minor incursion" point president biden made a couple of months ago was not helpful, because that has made europe a little bit less stable. i'm not saying that i know president putin. i had a chance to be in the room with him several times. he looks different to me, it feels like something has changed, even with the pandemic. i don't know what it is, but i was reminded that president macron of france said "something in putin has changed." maybe it's something up here or in his gut instinct, but that's what we are dealing with: a change in his strategic direction. >> president biden has said he's

going to whip putin's butt, has been saying for years, that putin respects him. here's a flashback, saying "there's no way biden was going to back down, listen." >> president biden: putin knows that if i am president of the united states in the days of trying to intimidate the united states, and though she is used -- those are over. i'm going to stand up to him. >> has he? >> it does not seem like vladimir putin is concerned about that comment. i want to touch on what dana was just saying. earlier, general kellogg was talking about this. he says "this is not the man who i had several interactions with during my administration." nothing has changed in in. it's interesting between putin and his chief when they stood up and said "yes, i support what we are doing good" he said "i support the entry of -- into the

russian federation." they said "that's not what we are doing!" they were declaring their independence. it reminds me of the kind of scene we have seen with prior dictators. >> like a mobster. >> yes, when they start to lose it a little bit. he has all these anniversaries: hundredth anniversary tomorrow of the founding of the soviet union, what he says is the saddest day of this to soviet union. how many more years does he have to do this? he senses that this is his moment. there is a danger in the air with putin. that's difficult to solve with normandy agreements and paper. i think he hears that it goes "whatever." throw your papers up in the air. >> you can only do so much if this guy wants to do what he wants to do, and has the backing of the russian military. let's listen to the president earlier. harold ford jr. -- we are going

to get a sense of his tone. >> this is the beginning of a russian invasion of ukraine. who in the lord's name does putin think give him the right to declare new, so-called countries, on territory that belonged to his neighbor's? we believe that russia is poised to go much further, launching a massive military attack against ukraine. i hope i am wrong, but russia has only escalated this threat against the rest of ukrainian territory. russia has moved supplies, blood, medical equipment into the position on their border. you don't need blood and dominic unless you plan on starting a war. >> that's a huge piece of intelligence that the united states has. i can't see why he would do that if he wasn't going -- >> i don't differ with a lot around the table, but i have a slightly different perspective. i think the main points made that should be noted is the point you just made. something is not right about putin.

if you want to throw out the mobster/gangster analogy, the head of a family, demonstrating the lack of capacity like that, they are taken out. perhaps, there is something internal, which i think our comments have speculated and implicated, that maybe there is not the agreement amongst his deputies that he wants. number two, no nation has come forward to demonstrate support for what putin is doing. there's no question. he felt the way he has handled this, and the way he has projected he would handle this would cause division within nato. listen to any commentator, and a general. they said they have not seen nato this evening to do him the other day, rewrite, revise, reimagine the end of the cold war was one of the strangest and most fascinating history lessons one could fictionalize about. even his own -- the group that's supposed to be his greatest supporters, there was inertia in

that room. i am encouraged by that. it's also interesting to see the ukrainian foreign minister, he does not look like a lackey for the united states appeared he seems credible, honest. he is relentlessly patriotic about being a ukrainian. here point earlier, just dominic jesse, to blinken -- "we are with you, let's act" " i think it's important to continue these press conferences, it sends a rest dominic message that "i don't think we are parts dominic prepared to send the troops there, and the audience is looking that this as china, and saying they respect sovereign boundaries. we will see where that goes, but to see nato four nato four to five strong like this, standing with the ukraine -- jesse, there's not been anything. we can be critical, and i'm fine with that, but he's unflinching in his support, and i think that they made clear that we are

unflinching in our support of them. >> what happens if this moves not just into ukraine, but what if he goes into poland? what if he goes into some of the baltic nato states? do you think joe biden is going to trigger article five and send a massive amount of american soldiers into eastern europe to defend estonia? >> i think he would. an attack on one is an attack on all. if there's one thing that's bulletproof about nato, it is that belief. i slightly disagree with what harold said come and you mentioned it: a talk is one thing. when you look at those nato countries, you've got your military to pay for your welfare state and open up your borders, and then believe you can muster the collective will necessary to stare down a maniac who potentially has ambitions on that continent.

the 82nd poland is setting up processing centers for refugees. that's what our soldiers and border patrol agents do best these days: they help facilitate refugees. i don't think that vladimir putin believes that his adversaries are fundamentally serious right now. he does not believe the west is a serious civilization. we are talking about genders, reparations, all of this. he sees us divided, self-loathing, and as a result, he thinks this is his moment to make an aggressive. we should talk about article five, but with the american people support sending our boys halfway across the world for a flight against vladimir putin? the elites would want us to do so, but the population in america -- >> do you think the oligarchs are going to call him? >> i think they are. we can't have it every which way. one thing that is clear, he does not have the support of putin, everyone he wants in russia.

i agree with you in this regard: we are not -- it's going to be an internal thing. those troops, can you imagine being in one of those bunkers right now? one of the 190,000 troops waited for him to say "you will perhaps kill russians in the ukraine? >> i understand our politics, but i'm rooting for the president. i know we all are, but i mourn for him and -- as well in these conversations. >> dana, would you like to say anything before we go to break? >> the other piece of news was that the foreign minister of russia, lavrov, was supposed to have a meeting thursday. that is off, because lincoln said they would meet only if there was not an invasion. it was first labeled and encourage income but is now labeled an invasion. >> it's interesting how we moved

of the language. at first it changed, got more intense, and then so did the sanctions. last night, we had sanctions on the eastern region, and then went to a higher step. you heard the foreign minister say he expects a lot more sanctions to get piled on, not giving putin a sense of "this is as far as we are going to go." ." >> a linkage of minor incursion that the president use was a big mistake. he lost the ability last night to say that and allow it to be true. once he said that, any invasion had to be called at invasion, or he would have looked weak. that was corrected within an hour this morning. if that was eaten up by dropping that phrase when he did. >> martha, i was thinking about this on my way in. you have such a close relationship with many world war ii veterans, had a

chance to interview them. obviously, the cold war was different than world war ii, but was an out rum. it you read baker today in "the wall street journal" saying "we have won the cold war, but have lost it because we've lost focus." i am wondering if you have insight to that. >> funny, i am thinking about your experience. it's something i think a lot of americans don't think a lot about, which is the creation of these nato countries after the fall of the soviet union, when they were so weak to build up that both sturm of nato nations on their border that really aggravated them. what was the best move? it's almost like post-world war ii, how much do you beat up germany? you want them to become a democracy that can thrive after it's over. i think that's something that historically, we have to look back at and say "was that a mistake to incorporate those nato nations on their border, when they were at their weakest"? >> do you think there will be accountability -- obviously,

expanding nato year after year right up to russia's doorstep, but making the ukrainians give nukes back in the early '90s. are we going to get accountability for the world community, as they foreign minister said from ukraine: we said "we will give these back, but we expect you to get our back if we get invited," and they have been invaded twice, and we did not end the world has not supported them the way they believed they would be. >> unilateral disarmament, not effective when you are surrounded by people trying to take your land. there is a litany of other examples were that's the case. when you are staring down the barrel -- he talked about a guy in the trench and what they are thinking about. it depends on what trench you are in and what part of ukraine, because the biggest country in the continent, a huge amount of resources and leverage because of where the pipelines currently are. every other pipeline russia supplies fuel to europe goes through ukraine or belarus.

russia effectively controls belarus at this point. right here, this is operational. it bypasses that, and so would norm stream 2, which we shut off. i would want to hope that the world leaders, especially the united states, whether we take military action or not, listen, that when a vicious man says he is going to do something, that we take it seriously. it sounds like the musings of someone who wants to reestablish russia -- what is his mental state? i don't know, but i know that he admires the legacy of the soviet union. i would like to see him put himself on that same pedestal." >> there's one thing about nato, one thing i learned over the years of being there. in history, it shows that democracies do not declare war on each other. there is a desire from people that are born free, like if we all believe that you are born with the inherent belief that you are a free individual, that you want self-determination, so

that's why there was this fight against communism and socialism, because these countries recognize that there -- opportunities, freedom, free will. nato would you provide you that's protection. i admire countries that want to join nato -- they wanted to be a part of it. why? they want their own self-determination. it's a young country. a lot of the people that lived there did not live under russian rule. they don't remember that. they don't want to go back to that. that's why you see the attempts to fight. i did not hear a lot of talk today -- all the words that were spoken, the word "freedom." is not what we are talking about here? to me, that makes a big difference. does not mean fights or fought for you by other people, but can you be a part of the free world? in my opinion, i think we should fight for that in whatever ways we can. the one thing we have not mentioned, and this is a

concern -- i think the biden administration is doing well on this so far, hopefully, which is putin's capability to play less putin's capability of reeking havoc on computer systems. your energy supply, your food supply, your ability to do banking transactions, google what you want. >> that goes to your point about the "freedom argument." l4 jr., has a president looked at the american people directly in the eye and said "this is what we are doing in eastern europe, why, and this is what could happen?" he flirted with this with the gas prices and said "i have a plan." he has said he did before, but didn't have one or didn't work. you saw the market down like 600 points earlier this afternoon. if you have a couple months of the market like that, and gas goes to $4, and maybe what they had last time at colonial, going tit for tat for cyber and

sanctions, you are coming out of a pandemic where people are just getting their head above water. i don't know if this country it is ready mentally, financially, for something like that. >> i hope so. you don't get an opportunity leading up to war to prepare as much as you would like. rumsfeld got criticized for saying "you go to war with the armaments you have, not what you want." >> it's tribute >> there's nones, unknowns, and unknown unknowns. >> the administration did try to warn the big and small companies alike about how not to defend against a cyber attack, but what is a continuity plan? you must anticipate reactions on this, and they should understand to be offensive. i think the president has made it clear. i would agree with dana on this nato thing. there is a history behind it. perhaps, the giving up of the weapons, ukraine, that's maybe something we should look back at, but in terms of joining

nato, i'm glad those nations did. i think president reagan had it best when he said "there is no security or safety in the appearance of evil." i think our president is doing everything he possibly can short of sending troops. pete probably has a better perspective on this day and i do, perhaps best around the table, but this is about using every table, every card. it's not a great hand, but he's playing at the best he can. >> i think we should mention president trump and nato greed even though he was criticized, poking at nato, what he did is make nato take notice. a lot of those countries started to pay more of their contributions. i understand that the biden administration wants to say that nato has never been more united. i don't know that, but president trump deserves a lot of credit for making sure that nato is on the radar, and that everyone in nato is on notice,

saying "if you want to be part of this, it means you have to be fulfilling your commitments." and he put germany on notice, said "we are paying to defend you when you are getting your when you're getting your fuel from russia, which we are defending against." >> president biden: today, the response to russian's admission that it will not withdraw its forces from belarus -- i have authorized additional movements of u.s. forces and equipment already stationed in europe to strengthen our baltic allies: estonia, latvia, and lithuania. let me be clear: these are defensive moves. if we have no intention of fighting russia. we want to send an unmistakable message, though, that the united states together with our allies will defend every inch of nato territory, and abide by the commitments we made tomato.

>> when he says that , when he says that, is heat -- telling potent "we are not trying to start a war in easterg to? >> could be saying "i'm bringing you into another --" there's only one reason to ramp up your presence in nato countries, and that is if you think there's a chance that putin might and go into one of them. everything we've said here about nato and article five, that's the moment where the president needs to say that we are ironclad on article five, don't even think about an encroachment in any of these countries. that would be the moment would come if you are ascribed to article five, and that's when you have to stand up and say something. >> i think that's what he's said. i think he's trying to speak to putin. the only message putin will get his rationale to go further.

the nato countries are going on the defensive, and he is using it for propaganda. >> we are completely defenseless, that's what the countries are saying. >> it's an amazing thing that an american president says "we are purely defensive." i don't understand why we have laid on these sanctions. i understand that it would be a deterrent, but he has already escalated so much. there should have been sanctions earlier. >> that is but the ukrainian foreign minister said. we are going to monitor this breaking news. up next, we just lost a member of "the five" family and we will pay tribute to bob beckel. as a struggling actor, i need all the breaks that i can get. at liberty butchemel... cut. liberty mu... line? cut. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. cut. liberty m... am i allowed to riff?

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can. >> are you kidding me!" >> are you kidding me? >> this is the last time i will talk about benghazi. and i hope every other patriotic american joins with me. >> you cannot make all liberals the same on everything. >> you are! [laughter] speak of the thing is i call you a liberal but you call me a wacko. >> bob has gotten much nicer. >> that's because you threatened to sue me. [laughter] here it is: if you take a look at this, it is called "the hate of joy." >> when i want my 20, i will drink my twinkie. >> bob drank the whole thing. >> if they don't hit me on the first row -- they are uncoordinated, unathletic, and republicans. [laughter] >> oh, we missed it again next matt gono!

[laughter] >> the end of an era. [laughter] >> under -- >> i bought enough christmas tree lights to wire or manhattan. >> this displays for all the kids in my neighborhood, from the big kids to -- >> it's already five against one! >> every time i swear i've got to put money in -- this time, 20 bucks. [laughter] >> over the course of the day, some kids give you a good smile, something is good that's happening. >> our team did an amazing job putting that together. >> greg, i don't know if you can

see, but they have a swear jar! a lot of pennies in here. >> the irony is you swore more than him. it's great to see those clips. one thing that was interesting about bob is that he was never going to tell you he was in shape or in good health, but for somebody who was not in shape or in good health, he had more energy than anybody i knew. he was nonstop. even with his pretty bad diet, and his other things, he could really -- what you saw is what you got. he really was made for television. you felt like you knew him. i have brought a clip. if there was a time where i had him on "a red eye" with his brother, graham beckel, who was a tremendous actor, was in the "l.a. confidential." to see them interact as brothers gave you an insight into what

bob was like as a family member. typically have it. >> listen to this. you are an actor. you have to understand, right? >> screw 'em. [laughter] 's own appropriate! >> i'm inappropriate? that's an appropriate question might >> were you at woodstock customer >> i want to a homicide. [laughter] >> is not a cult movie? can you imagine if we lived together? it would be the sweaty party. [laughter] >> there are so many memories. we all knew this day was going to happen, who was going to get there first? he packed in a lot of life. >> he was a complex character. when "the five" started in july of 2011, we still lived in d.c. we'd be on the train back and

forth. he was a brilliant political mind. ask him anything about politics that happened in the '70s-'80s, he could tell you exactly what was happening. he had great instex on trends that were going to take place. he used to scare us when he would scream ""one more thing" is up next." he said he hated dogs, but called nephew. one time we want to do hannity's show in atlanta, and he faked having a heart attack live on air. i thought he was really having a heart attack. i was panicking, and it was a joke he played on me. let's go around the table quickly. you and bob, jesse, had an interesting relationship. >> i've never been given the finger by a nicer guy. [laughter] i did not have a long overlap with him like you guys, but what a great duty, great stories. some of the best of times on "the five" are in the commercial breaks, and bob was worse than

got fouled in the commercial breaks. [laughter] we will miss him, love him, always remember him at. >> you must have known bob. >> he was a wealth of information. he loves what we do, loves politics, loved arguing about it and talking about it. i used to have the chair outside by the studio. he would sit there and all day long, he could strike up a conversation with you at any time. we will miss him. >> harold, did you know bob? >> more as a democratic operative, but i watched him on the show. a lot of great things about him, and he had a strong point of view, was a good, loyal democrat, but loved to debates, loved and open and fair debate. he could give it as good as he could get it. it's not just about bob, it's about life. he did not take things personally. >> he was a faithful person. he was a man who battled addiction, and was willing to talk about that.

he would get calls at 2:00 in the morning to help somebody who was about to fall off the wagon. >> i can only come at it as a viewer, but in that sense, always fun watching someone comfortable in their own skin. clearly has a good soul. he clearly loved to each. [laughter] >> greg, "we think bob is coming around, going to become a conservative." [laughter] >> he rode a column every week for years with cal thomas. you could not find a real more conservative person. that was the secret to bob's happiness: seeing people as people instead of political entities. we've lost sight of that in the last couple of decades. >> we learned a lot from him. [laughter] swear jar, courtesy of bob. "one more thing" is up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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7:00. >> bar shaped doughnut eclair. >> dana: bob beckel would have loved this segment oso much. for bob. a television reporter has been getting a lot of attention it shows him reporting from ukraine in six different languages. check him out. >> at war with russian-backed forces. [speaking foreign language] >> dana: i think he is amazing. he tweeted english lux and bourgeoisie british. french and german. nor than 7 people viewed it and somebody asked is this man married? i mean, i'm married, too. >> women from all different countries wanted to know. >> jesse: when you speak to a woman in luxenburgish. >> dana: couldn't help himself. >> harold: i'm going to write that one down.

>> jesse: you know what? don't write that one down, harold. a big day for women in sports and hopefully every other sector announced today that the u.s. women's soccer team reached amy agreement with the u.s. soccer federation to settle six year disagreement around equal pay for u.s. women's soccer players. the u.s. soccer decided to pay a total of $24 million and provide -- promise equal pay with the men's team going forward. thank you to this team and brave young women for paving my daughter and young girls around america. congratulations. >> pete: i want to share a bucket list item at daytona 500 i always wanted to drive a nascar on the nascar track thanks to the nascar racing experience i did it show your license, watch a video for 25 minutes and then strap you into a car. get above 150 miles per hour by myself got to go 150 miles per hour. international speedway by my life. i have never been so scared

since combat. >> harold: you said you were scared, too. >> martha: new jersey frarge my home state 50-mile marathon for vets -- a program for veterans and congratulations to him. he has been training all winter, freezing cold. >> dana: i look forward to him being on the story. >> martha: he is going to join -- >> jesse: don't eat any donuts before the race maybe after. "special report" suspect next with bret. >> bret: gracias, mercy, donka that's all i have. good evening, welcome to washington. i'm bret baier, breaking tonight the semantics of invasion. president biden says vladimir putin's words and russian troop movements into ukraine are the beginning of an invasion and so he says he is beginning new sanctions against vladimir putin's regime. biden moving around u.s. troops in europe to shore up nato