off. thousands, maybe millions of people trying to get out of kyiv, trying to get out of the country and right now they are stuck in traffic as the war goes on. the sanctions by president biden will be announced tomorrow and the european union. what's next? continuing coverage of the war on >> all-out war is on in europe. ukrainian wake up to air raid sirens, explosions and gunfire. russian tanks entering the country from all sides. president putin warns face consequences you have never had before in your history. >> people on the ground in

ukraine's capital city crowding highways to a complete stop as they desperately rush to evacuate. you are watching "fox and friends first," i'm carley shimkus. >> todd: i'm todd piro. we are following breaking news, griff jenkins live in washington, where president biden is set to speak this morning. embassy staff were just evacuated. >> carley: we turn to steve harrigan, who is live in kyiv. what are you see something >> steve: it is really what are you hearing so far this morning. bad sounds from about down here. we heard explosions to the southwest, eight or 10 at a time. behind me, behind the clouds, more explosions and air raid sirens, jets overhead and helicopters overhead. those sounds are enough to scare people in kyiv enough to make them flee. there was a lot of denial about the possibility this could be

widespread russian invasion. they would attack in ukraine. they are attacking and attacking in full force. now, at the last minute, after bombs have begun to fall, people are fleeing, get nothing their cars with children and pets. throwing everything in their car and trying to get out of town. they are heading west toward poland. a real sense of fear here that speaks to two things, i think. one, people didn't imagine this could happen, they didn't imagine putin would attack the capital of kyiv. two, poor preparation by the government issue the government not preparing their people for this reality. desperate situation, people stuck on the highway afraid and trying to get away. carley. >> carley: absolutely. the images we're seeing right now of just a traffic stand still as

people flee west. it is pretty stunning. sentiment on the ground all week has been people are staying put, they want to stay and fight. are there still people in the city who are stay something we're see something foot traffic, at least i was a few minutes ago during your last reporter hit. how many people on the ground in kyiv want to stay and fight? it is a young city with a western sentiment that does have a great sense of nationalism, i'm wondering what the split is in opinion there? >> steve: you are right, carley, a lot of people decided to stay for different reasons, either they don't have money to leave, out of patriotism and wanting to fight. some are taking shelter in their basements or in the metro system. it is a cold, wet morning.

a lot of people are down there right now. president putin made an announcement this would be an attack on eastern ukraine to save ethnic russians from what he called genocide. it is clear what we're seeing on the ground and much different, bigger. cities are being attacked across this country and russian forces are moving from the north, east and the south. carley. >> todd: that is absolute lie by putin, steve. any sense as to where this individuals who are fleeing kyiv are going right now? >> steve: the clearest route out is to the west, toward poland or toward lviv. that city is being hit, as well, the crisis that could happen depending how this war goes is refugee crisis. it is estimated five million people could flee and they are

beginning today to try to get out of here as quickly as possible and it will be a real scramble to keep them warm and safe when they cross the borders. >> carley: steve harrigan live on the ground in kyiv, we'll check back in momentarily. for now, we go to lucas tomlinson, a few hundreds mile to the west of lviv, ukraine. a lot of people fleeing kyiv, could be head nothing your direction. >> that's right, carley, i am west of the capital city. it is part of the evacuation route. we spoke to the mayor two days ago, he said he is ready to welcome hundreds of thousands of refugees, this is a town in ukraine, the president is willing to dismiss students and use apartments to house refugees. we are located 40 miles east of

poland and we expect heavy volume, certainly seeing traffic out of kyiv mean a lot of people are head thanksgiving way, not just potential refugees, russian forces, as well. unconfirmed reports they are coming from belarus. russ i can't think sources heading south in this direction. it's been relatively quiet in lviv, air raid sirens five different times. speaking of people on the street, they said in 50 years, they never heard air-raid sirens, another indication as the foreign minister says was full-scale invasion of the country. no city is completely safe. defense ministry claims they neutralized ukraine's air defense systems and runways and military sites and those exist to the west, carley

>> todd: we heard steve harrigan's report saying up until 48 hours ago, people of kyiv were not prepared for this, they had a sense this was going to pass and now that is turning out to not be true s. there a fear that could be the same in lviv? a sense of we should be good here, to your point, we haven't heard air-raid siren in 50 years, maybe a sense of complacency taking hold there? >> todd, very similar story there. three weeks in this country, pretty much all ukrainians have shrugged when you talk about are the russians going to come. they thought it was talk, politics, financial, they thought it was putin squeezing this country and cutting off the ports and the economy and that is how it would go, maybe fighting in the east. you saw putin claiming two separatist region, they thought that is where the action was.

most people said, we've been at war. we are not worried, we have guns in our safe. you don't have short-range ballistic missiles, what we saw last night. end of phase one seemed to be large-scale missile attack, caliber cruise missiles and about to see large ground invasion by all reports, what will happen throughout the country from the east, from the north and from the south north from crimea. >> carley: wow, there may be russian troops in belarus heading to lviv, if that takes place, when would they be in the city of lviv, where you are right now? >> carley, according to google maps, about five hours, they are in bres belarus, straight shot south from the highway, approximately five hours.

>> carley: the clock is ticking. lucas tomlinson, thank you, we will check back in with you, as well. turning to washington, president biden will hold a meeting with g7 later today. >> todd: biden vowing the world will hold russia accountable. griff jenkins live with the details. griff. >> griff: president biden saying the prayers of the world are with the people of ukraine, condemning russia's unprovoezed attack, adding, president putin has chosen war that will bring catastrophic loss of life and human suffering. the united states and allies will respond in united and decisive way, the world will hold russia accountable. biden spoke with president zelenskyy vowing assistant to their people. president biden will speak with the leaders of the other

g7 nations later today to hold putin accountable as european union announces they are planning the strongest package of sanctions ever considerd and it comes after the un security council held an unsuccessful emergency meeting to dissuade putin from attacking. secretary of state blinken tweeting this, saying secretary of defense and i spoke with the general to discuss the attack and discuss the coordinated response. we are responding to the eastern flank. president zelenskyy declare og social media martial law on the ground in ukraine. watch. >> president putin -- >> this morning, putin announced special military operation in the don base. explosions were heard in many

cities of ukraine, martial law throughout ukraine. >> griff: poignant moment as member of ukraine parliament pleaded with the american people for help. >> the american society now, i want to ask you to push your government to put the toughest possible sanctions against putin now. i'm speaking about russia should be out of world economy, ban on russian oil and gas. >> griff: timeline today is fluid. president biden did say in the statement, he will address the american people after speaking with the g7 nations on the next steps and we'll learn what sanctions will be coming after the first we saw yesterday, which targeted the sovereign debt, financial institution and ruszian russian elites. you may hear about export controls that will be added to

package of sanctions, that goes after any country that exports things like computer chips to russia to try to strangle putin in his country. >> carley: that is right. we expect to hear from president biden noon eastern time today as he talks about more sanctions on russia because of this massive invasion that is unfolding right now. thank you, griff, bring in rebecca cafler, an expert born in russia. rebecca, this is a map of ukraine and explosions heard around the country keecov. are you surprised by strategy from vladamir putin and what is his next move? >> oh, i'm absolutely not

surprised. this is something putin has been planning for years. returning back under moscow control, this is what we're seeing unfolding is putin's play book. what i expect next is massive cyber attacks, space war fare, air and missile bombardment of control of government targets and i would not rule out decapitation strategy to force zelenskyy to flee. that is how putin operates. >> todd: putin russian invasion would lead to consequences you have never had in your history. what does he mean by that? >> this was clearly a threat to putin articulated last nights in

his speech, he authorized special military operation against, he said eastern ukraine. he is basically telegraphing to the united states and nato to stay out of it. if they don't, putin has prepared a five-point plan in which he would go all the way to a shooting war with the u.s. and nato, including launching nuclear strikes in europe and that is a deesque latory strategy in putin's mind. we knew that in the intelligence community and unfortunately our washington establishment security establishment has not prepared for this and this is a real tragedy. >> todd: you are saying putin's threat to the u.s. and nato countries isn't just i'm going to attack you cyber wise if you

interfere, you say he is threatening actual man-on-man, woman-on-woman, person-on-person combat, correct? >> that is absolutely correct, that is what my book is about, putin's playback, russia's plan to defeat america. putin developed sophisticated strategy that russians call new generation war fare and if russians intelligence interprets or misinterprets u.s. and nato action as offensive instead of defensive, then putin can authorize preemative doctrine, including kinnet and i can nonkinetic option. >> carley: hearing eu will hit russia with sanctions package like they have never seen before, the u.s. will announce

additional sanctions. this is scary stuff right now, how can what you are saying be avoid? ed >> unfortunately, carley, we're at the 11th hour, the sanctions policy has been bullish and not grounded in reality. same people crowing russia is masquerading as a country and russian gdp is size of italy somehow expect sanctions will stop putin from executing his master plan he's been hatching for two decades. that is not how it works, the amount sanctioned is miniscule. russia gdp is 1.48 trillion and this is not something that is going to make a difference. besides, putin sanction the economy since first sanction hit russia in 2014.

>> todd: what does stop putin at this point? >> at this point, unfortunately, short of risking going to war with putin, i am very worried to say that nothing will stop him because again, putin has been preparing for two decades for this and he's been watching very carefully u.s. operations for the past two decades in iraq, afghanistan and kosovo and every aspect of war fighting style is highly dependent on technology and developed strategy including cyber and warfare option that hit at vulnerabilitvulnerabilit. >> carley: thank you for the

warnings, very important this morning. >> todd: putin aggression creating ripple effect felt in markets worldwide. dow plunging and stock exchange is -- markets drop, crude oil surging to $100 per barrel for the first time since 2014. >> carley: lawmakers strongly condemning -- putin overnight. >> todd: brooke singman joins us live with the details 6789 brooke. >> brooke: that is right, lawmakers in the nation's capitol condemning the attack on ukraine and calling for range of swift, severe and crippling sanctions. congressman dan dan crenshaw, i hope president putin suffers immense losses this is barbaric, praying ukrainians fight like hell, may the people be with ukraine.

republicans and democrats are calling for putin to be punished. chris murphy tweeting, tonight entire post world war international order sits on a knife's edge if putin does not pay a devastating price for this transgression, our own security will be at risk. some are places the blame squarely on president biden's shoulders. listen. >> on day one for biden presidency, he strengthened putin. he approved the nord stream 2. i served on the arms services committee in congress. i'm very, very clear on what it means to be -- have peace through strepth and joe biden does not understand that, he's never once shown strength when it comes to making decisions to protect this country. >> former president donald trump telling laura, this never would

have happened under his leadership. >> why didn't this take place during our administration? it wouldn't have taken place and wouldn't have taken place right now, it is a sad thing for the world, for the country and certainly very sad for a lot of people that are going to be needlessly killed. >> brooke: remains to be seen what the biden administration and congress will do to hold putin and russia accountable for this act of war. we'll continue to monitor lawmaker reaction this morning. >> carley: we will, thank you. timing of putin's invasion is pointed out. watch this. >> todd: that is clearly obviously the wrong tape. let's switch gears. do we have the bret baier sound bite? we do not. bring in robert charles, former secretary of state for george w. bush and former naval intel

officer. robert, we've been talking for weeks about the situation, how does joe biden need to respond now? >> i think one thing, i would just say right now the entire western world, i presume led by the united states, entire western world, especially nato need to respond with courage and unity. todd, we've talked about this before, it looks like 1938, when nazi germany later to become horrific source of evil for four years and beyond, invaded the sudetan land. we know that appeasement encourages bad behavior. two basic points, some people look with a deep breath and say it was a limited event and maybe it was. direct effect could create huge 43 million person refugee fleeing, you are beginning to see that out of

ukraine, it could create additional impact within europe and i'll go to the unlimited or more dramatic potential read-out on this. start with the fact europe, broader europe, if they put sanctions on russia right now, broader europe gets 30% of oil and 40% of natural gas from russia, there will be equal and opposite reaction, expect gas to get turned off by russia. on the flip side, you can say this is the first act of a long play that has a bad ending unless the united states again leads sanctions that stop this in its tracks. this could be the first act of that russia/china pact where china moves in its fear of influence. it is perilous moment, one in which courage and unity are critical, understanding histories critical. understanding overreaction is as bad as under reaction, get balance right and send message

this is inappropriate and has to stop, but that any expansion of this will be hit directly. i like to think we don't talk kinetic, i like to think we're talking sanctions and economic. this is failure of diplomacy, if we would have been more direct and consistent, the build-up would have slowly retreatd and we wouldn't be where we are, but we are where we are. >> carley: bret baier was on the air a few hours ago and summed up what this moment means for the world moving forward. listen to this. >> bret: putin has a vision, a vision for taking over the soviet union map, but also re-jiggering, the world order, he and chinese president zee xi jinping shake things up, we'll see if the u.s. and other allies stand up to them. >> carley: this was planned and calculated, this has been

vladamir putin's life mission since she was a kgb operative. he is allied with chinese president xi jinping, how critical is their alliance to what they want to do moving forward, which is redraw the lines of europe. >> to be honest, carley, i think they want to do more than redraw the lines of europe. this is epic battle between two ideologies, communist in china and the legacy communism of putin's kgb russia versus freedom, free markets, idea there is a western world order, there is such a thing as hard natural law rights we call human rights. idea necessary our bill of rights from freedom of speech and self-defense and not being held captive and all that are worth fighting for versus this other essentially repressive

ideology. it is not just a battle for territory, it is battle for ideas. this is opening round in test to see in europe whether there is pushback enough collectively in unified way that says we believe in these values enough we will put down differences between us and suffer losses, if we have to get counter sanctions, stand up to this aggression and stand up in the far east, as well, it is a critical moment ttests resolve or metal of the western world. >> todd: robert, we love to go to you because you give us inside chatter coming from the national security inner circle. at this point, among individuals, yourself included what is greatest concern for the united states national security stemming from this invasion? is it just cyber at this point or i don't know if you hear our last guest rebeccaofler?

is it more severe at this snoint >> moments of crisis and storms call up the worst reactions in us emotionally and cause us to think the worst. i don't think russia will launch icbm or use tactical nuclear weapons, i did hear that report tis sobering it is within the 1% range of possibility, i don't think it is likely outcome. we live in a world that is different, this is largest conflict in europe since 1945, we live in a world where things are tightly connected and sanctions reverberate back on us any kinetic act reverberates back on us, any cyber attack both ways will reverberate through the economies of all countries affected. you have to remember this is actually a time when true diplomatic leadership continues to be vital. a collective world reaction to this says we're not going to let

this go further. you are going to pay a price economically and yes, you provide oil, you will pay a price for this. if that is sober and civil and in a way is believable and credible as biden has not been credible in afghanistan and other places, russia will say and china will say, no, we're not going to go deeper, this is going to be mud and mire and we'll get hammer federal we go, we'll stop. if you don't do that, you get appeasement. >> carley: robert something unique happened yesterday. there is usually no agreement in washington, on this topic, there was. lawmakers from the squad on the left or freedom caucus on the right called on president biden to get congressional approve before stationing u.s. troops in ukraine, which would be obvious step for the president to do. the has been clear, we do not

want to fight with russia, our troops to fight russian soldiers what are possibility of that happening? >> it is hard to find a day in the calendar year when i would agree with any of the folks on the far left, but let me say i agree with biden's decision, ukraine is not a nato ally. ukraine, should not put offensive troops or defensive troop necessary there, or put offensive weapon necessary there, only defensive weapons in there. however, however, troops in latvia, lithuania, any western or eastern european country part of nato, it is right thing to do, that puts clear line on the ground. i think we're at a moment where unity and courage are driving forces what we need and with unity and courage, you can stop this forest fire issue without

it, the forest fire spreads. >> carley: more troops earlier this week issue the goal was to ensure nato allies our presence is there with them and bring u.s. troops closer to russia, something vladamir putin doesn't want to see. thank you for joining us. now russia claims to have disabled air defense over night. people of ukraine are not give nothing and fighting to save their country. we'll talk to one of them coming up. >> todd: and talking to medal of honor recipient dakota mier as breaking news coverage continues. do not go anywhere. do you struggle to fall asleep and stay asleep? qunol sleep formula combines 5 key nutrients breaking news coverage continues. do not go anywhere. as breaking news coverage continues. do not go anywhere. as breaking news coverage continues. do not go anywhere. e as breaking news coverage continues. do not go anywhere. yer as breaking news coverage continues. do not go anywhere.

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>> carley: russian troops launching attack on ukraine with russian president putin warning to west stay out or face unprecedented consequences. a member of parliament broke down the situation in kyiv earlier this morning. >> there are explosions around the city, military infrastructure, airports are -- and it is not only about kyiv, it is mariupol and big cities of the country and smaller cities,

too. full-scale attack on ukraine using artillery and rockets. >> todd: dakota meyer is joining us now. great to see you. out of all the guests today, you are the war fighting expert. run us through range of fighting you expect in the conflict so far? >> first off, i want to say i've been coming on last couple of weeks and i was completely wrong. i never thought they were going to invade. maybe i was being optimistic, this is not what we want to see. the scariest part, we watched putin and i heard people talking about they don't think nuclear is on the table. he was insinuating nothing wasn't on the table and that is scary for all of us, right? >> carley: without a doubt. something else that is scary,

look at military head-to-head, russia active personnel, 900,000 and ukraine 200,000. russian troops, 900,000. artillery 6000 for russia and less finish ukraine. the ukraine is getting help from the u.s. and west in terms of weapons. when you hear the numbers, does ukraine stand a chance? >> i don't think ukraine stands a chance at all. inside ukraine, how many russian supporters within ukraine, right? i don't think ukraine stands a chance, but this point,let world needs to be asking does putin stop at ukraine, right? that is really the only question that i have. i don't think there is any way we should be going and get intoing conflict and should not

have our troops fighting there. it is time for europe to step up and head this on. the nato countries, if he threatens those, the united states has to back that issue not being the leader of that, lead with the sanctions, but i think the sleeping part of this and the even bigger part of this we need to watch, what is china going to do now, right? will china take this opportunity to take over taiwan? >> todd: that's a question that obviously flows from this. >> carley: china is watching. >> todd: you mentioned your mindset as to what should the u.s. involvement be. is that the assessment of the average american solder that we should not be over there fighting? >> well, look, i think that we've all had enough of war the last 20 years of with no plan or with no designated, what does a whim look like, right?

i will say personally, i don't want to go into another country again and leave it worse than we found out. what will the plan be? how would we keep russia from coming into ukraine? the taliban waited us out after 20 years and as soon as we left, they went in and took over the country we spent billions of authorize in. we put sanctions on russia and keep them from going further than this, i believe none of us want to go over and put our troops against their troops in this because i don't think this is their fight. >> carley: yeah, president biden will be speaking later today to address americans as russia launches war in ukraine. what do you hope to hear him say? >> you know, honestly, i hope our leaders in this country unite. right now is not the time to be

political. right now is the time for leaders to step up and lead. it is not about armchair quarterbacks, i don't think it is coincidence how this administration pulled out of afghanistan, level of incompetency this administration has shown has been astronomical, if i was the united states enemy right now would be the time that i would act and that is what you are starting to see russia act and next china will react. ripple will be felt across the globe. my hope is our military leaders that are leaders that are up in washington, d.c. they can put their politics aside and stop getting political, unite, unite with europe and our partners across the globe to go ahead and put a stop to this and we can act on a united front to show russia, russia is not, they go

past ukraine, they are not going to face these other countries, they will be facing the wrath of the world. i don't think russia wants that. >> todd: your assessment on lack of u.s. leadership and strength on the world stage is chilling and something we've been warning about for weeks, if not months. dakota meyer, we appreciate your time and insight. thank you, sir. >> carley: thank you, dakota. president zelenskyy just spoke moments ago, steve harrigan is live on the ground in kyiv. steve, what is the latest? >> steve: it was a brief, live but emotional address by the president of ukraine. he basically spoke to russian and ark peeled to them asking them not to support putin. russia is attempting to destroy a democratic state and he said that people who are going to stay should stay here and fight. he said this government will arm

ukrainian, give them weapons, fight them in your towns, cities and fight them in the squares. emotional call to arms, ready to arm civilians to fight the russian army. asking for blood donations as sign of more bloodshed to come, carley. >> todd: tough words. steve harrigan, thank you. in the face of the russian invasion, many ukrainian are staying put. one of them is joining us from kyiv, thank you for being here under these horrific circumstances. what is the feeling among those on the ground right now? >> thank you for having me today. i would say that we are angry and we are resolute. not a surprise for us, this is exactly eight years, marking this date when russian troops landed on this country on the crimea peninsula. we tried to prepare for eight

years, what i see from official sources, russian are taking -- all directions headed to ukraine. well, i see my neighborhood from the window, there is no panic issue lots of cars are parked on the parking lots, as usual. in the market in the morning, there are some, but a lot of goods on the shelves. everybody is willing to buy something can do it and oop i think we are ready to fight back. yarema dukh. we are fighting back, our army and armed forces are fighting back and doing their job. >> carley: your president volodymyr zelenskyy postod instagram and one message to the ukrainian people, don't panic, we are strong and will win because we are ukraine, glory to ushg ukraine. i'm wondering if putin could be underestimating the will of the

ukrainian peep snel could invasion in ukrainian end up being a mistake in the end? >> it is mistake now, it is mistake for eight years already and invading neighboring georgia in 2008 was a mistake for russia, nowadays, they will get the response they deserve. on one hand, for instance, your producer showed me footage of fox news showing people leaving kyiv, i can understand, i don't have kids, but i understand, i would try to find shelter somewhere on the countryside. what you didn't probably know, within past few days ukrainians donating tens of millions to volunteer -- namely to get tens of millions everyday. one of ukrainian is number one

on petro, worldwide with donations from ukrainians and supporters of ukraine from abroad. we are super prepared. day before ukrainian government issued brochure, named how to deal in time of crisis and war, which is explaining online, in telegram check boards, how to deal and be prepared and what to do under all the circumstances. we are not fighting n ly, we ar them on information ground. to pararkphrase, we will fight them in the land and on the air and on twitter because it is 2022. >> carley: pretty famous british politician one winston churchilwell, they didn't have twitter back then, if they did, it would a ply. everybody fighting, we have seen

reports of grandmothers saying i've never fired a gun before, i will take up arms to defend my homeland, is that the general sentiment? are you willing to do the same? >> well, i would say that those capable of fighting back should do that, everybody should have a place to do the -- country. i'm a political consultant and i'm stopping or posing my contract where i can and joining the government to volunteer for the government in the media relations and all other fields. i will be most effective there. i have friends who joined the military, so those graphics that you showed previously comparative arkinal sis on ukrainian and russian forces, they should be -- firstly, russian forces are on the whole

territory of the huge country and secondly, they are getting losses, for instance, cucut out six planes from the chart because they got them down ukrainian forces this morning. >> carley: running out of time, quickly, i want to ask one question, russia is claiming a lot, one they knocked out ukraine's air defenses. do you know if this is true? >> this is not true, if they would do that, how possibly we would knock down their planes and we're doing this across the whole country. >> carley: okay, stay safe, thank you for joining us this morning. russia also waging cyber war fare targeting top members of congress. we could be brought into the conflict even if we don't put boots on the ground. >> todd: security expert live.

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trading until further notice. crude oil surging to $100 per barrel for the first time since 2014. >> todd: some fear this could trigger larger escalation. >> carley: jim hanson, veteran, joins us now. one major concern at home is that this russia conflict with ukraine could spill over in the terms of cyber war fare in the united states. if that happens, what does it look like? >> well, that is just the problem, we've been whistling past the graveyard on cyber security for a long time, no one wants to try something against us. we thought no one would roll tanks through europe again during modern times. putin is now because he has no fear of deterrence from the biden administration or repercussions

that worry him. he believes cyber attacks against us wouldn't be a problem either. i think he is wrong there, i don't think there is any chance we would not respond to cyber attacks. i don't think it is something putin wants to do to us. >> todd: putin warns anyone who supervisors will fear the likes of consequences, likes of which they have never seen s. that confined just to cyber space or could that mean something else, something far worse? >> jim: that is not particularly valed threat to use nuclear weapons. i don't think he wants to use nuclear weapons, but the fact he is willing to threaten anyone who intervenes shows he has no fear of americans or nato who are both irrelevant to stopping

him from ukraine. putin will go as far in ukraine as he wants to. if he wants to take the country, ukrainians can't stop him militarily, if he happened to take ukraine and topple the government, he'll have one incredible insurgency that will make him remember afghanistan and how russians left there like we did without being able to control the country. right now he knows he can take the country, if he wants the breakaway provinces, he can keep those. this may be a bargaining chip. >> carley: tweet from mayorkis on the cyber warfare front. he says, we have no information to predict cyber threat against u.s. homeland issue but it is our responsibility to be prepared and that is what we do at dhs. hashtag, shields up.

you talked to other people like rick perry on "fox and friends first" recently and he said that is not true, that are always cyber threats from russia to the united states. who do we believe on this front? we have to think back to the colonial pipeline hack and how detrimental that was to the united states and a lot of people in this country are concerned something like that might happen again, considering the aggression we are seeing from rubbing. >> difficulty with cyber attacks it is difficult to follow who caused the attack, who initiated the attack. in this case, if russia did it, they would use cut outs and it would not happen from their territory. we have to wonder whether the chinese may conduct a cyber attack to distract us as they consider the idea of rolling ships across the strait and taking taiwan. look at both of them as

potential actors in any cyber attack to distract us from ukraine or operation against taiwan and we are not prepared to stop either of those because there are too many places you can attack u.s. infrastructure, financial markets and other things, we simply can't stop a cyber attack, but could respond to one. >> todd: putin wanted to do this for decades, begs question why now, president trump weighing in, listen. >> i always heard the worst thing that could happen, drive those two countries together and it really started with obama and energy. he drove them together because one needed the energy and the other needed the money. he drove them together and biden put them -- i kept them ark part and now biden, looks like it is a great love fest and that is a very bad thing, the fact and you can probably add iran, too, they are including iran also.

>> todd: your reaction, jim? >> jim: president trump is right, nothing bad happened during president trump's term, same with chinese, he engaged putin to keep him out of the new dragon bearer alliance, considerably more dangerous than anything we've faced since the days of the cold war. they didn't act when trump was president, yet as soon as biden came in and facing lesser adversary, they were relatively sure would not act in an aggressive way, they took advantage of that and the fear again is now that with them meeting during the olympics and acting together, may be the ones to fear. >> carley: you are talking about peace three strength, an important concept. thank you for joining us on this

important day. >> carley: following every breaking detail out of ukraine all morning long, including live reports from kyiv. people are waking up to explosions and war. >> todd: all here live, please don't go anywhere. [engine humming] [clapping] plus dr. rebecca grant, congressman michael waltzs and representative mark green all here live, please don't go anywhere. ♪ yeah, it rocks.

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[sirens sounding] >> carley: all out war is on in europe as ukrainians wake up to air-raid sirens, explosions and gunfire. russian tanks entering the country from all sides and president putin warns west to stay out of his way or "face consequences you have never seen before in your