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the attack. so, cyber warfare being ukraine deep into it. as far as the united states? absolutely. we know elements inside of russia have attacked the united states multiple times before. so, we can expect that to happen. >> todd: congressman mark green, we appreciate your time. "fox & friends" starts right now. ♪ [siren] >> ainsley: those are the air raid sirens that ukrainians are waking up to this morning. this is a fox news alert. breaking overnight, russia waging war on ukraine. >> pete: the full on assault from the air happening right now as vladimir putin's military moves in from all directions. >> steve: in the meantime the people who had been in denial as you can see right there, are trying to get out of town as fast as they can. there are people in cars lined
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up for miles trying to leave. this as the white house prepares to issue new sanctions which don't look like they have worked so far. steve harrigan has been witnessing the strike all night. and leads our coverage from kyiv and, steve, we know that an hour ago, something hit something a couple miles away from you. it's not over. >> no, it's not over. it's actually, unfortunately, just beginning. you can still smell the smoke from that last strike. it's been really a morning of terror for people here in this capital city of 3 million. you heard those air raid sirens. we have heard a number of explodes. probably miss -- it started in the predawn hours. predawn it putin said this would be eastern ukraine. he said it was geared to help ethnic russians to protect them from what he calls genocide. what we are seeing is something different than that a much wider
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war, a much bigger war. and there have been explosions and attacks all across ukraine. putin also issued a menacing warning. he said don't interfere. anyone who interferes could face consequences never before seen in history. so he is attacking ukraine and threatening the rest of the world at the same time. russia right now is claiming to have knocked out all of ukraine's air defenses. we can't verify that but judging from the fact that we're still seeing explosions here in kyiv, it's probably not true. the effect of these explosions have had on people has been dramatic. it's really created a sense of panic here. people getting into their cars and trying to head west towards poland, trying to get out of here. and it's created a traffic jam hours for gasoline. people trying to get money out of the atms. trying to get food. it really shows, i think, two things. one that people didn't believe this was going to happen. so they waited until the last minute, and, second, the
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government really didn't prepare people for what actually has happened here on the ground. we just heard from the president a short time ago, he is asking for blood donations. and he is also saying that they are ready to give weapons to any civilians who are willing to fight. he wants them to fight the russian army on the streets, in the court yards in their villages, defend their square. they are ready to arm civilians to carry out that fight. guys, back to you. steve. >> steve: , i have got a question for you and that is this. we know you are in kiev, in the center of the country just generally. but can you tell, for instance, what the missile that came in or the mortar that came in about an hour ago, i remember you were in a fox hole 20 years ago on this show in afghanistan. and you could hear the i object coming. it came from this way and went that way. can you tell where these devices welcome fired from? as we look at downtown kyiv, we understand that apparently there
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have been missiles come in from the north and the south and the east. can you tell who is shooting at you? we know they are russians but from what direction? >> we can't tell the direction. and you are really getting at a key point. and that is that putin has so many military options. and so much hardware along this border that he can attack from the air, from the sea, from the ground, from the north, from the east, from the south. the military options are almost endless that he has here. so, they are saying it's precision-guided. so far we are not hearing reports of mass casualties. we are not seeing buildings on fire and civilians dying en masse. this is only the first stage. this is to knock out the defenses. what comes next could be a ground assault. they are not doing this to leave volod zelenskyy in power. they want a are a vietnamese change here. that's why it's a full scale war. how are they going to get a
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regime change? they are going to have to come inside this city. that's when it could get bad. >> pete: you mention the panic on the ground people fleeing trying to get gas and going to atms. there is a decision the government of ukraine had to make. full on preparation because a war is imminent or trying to keep the population calm believing that diplomacy or just a quote, minor incursion would be all that it is. do you think they managed that balance correctly or did they not go far enough in preparing the people for the reality that vladimir putin had envisioned all the way to kyiv? >> i think you are right. and it's fair to point out that this government was incredibly tough situation. if they did panic the situation and have people flee early, the currency would fall out and the country could crumble from within without a shot being fired. that said, the situation you are seeing on the hirvel is a pure mess. we had warning after warning from the u.s. about an invasion. and we heard the exact opposite
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from the leadership here. it wasn't going to happen. maybe a little closer to the u.s. would have been better. we wouldn't have terrified families in their vehicles trying to get out of here this morning. >> ainsley: steve, we were told by putin this is going to be a peace-keeping operation. he was going to go into the two independent regions. now he is going into kyiv. what does this tell you? what happens next? >> i think this is a war for control over the entire country of ukraine. when we're hearing ukrainian officials say this is an attempt to destroy a democratic country on the border with russia. i can't argue with that. that's what it looks like. but the hard thing to understand is that one man is calling the shots. are the russian people behind this? do the russian people wake up this morning and say oh, great, we are bombing my cousins, my relatives, my in-laws in ukraine. my guess is no. my guess there is some shame and
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disappointment and regret about what's happening. but one man is making the decisions. >> steve: you are absolutely right. all right. steve harrigan, you near the roof top there in kyiv. stay safe, we will be back to you when anything happens or at the very least one hour. let's bring in lieutenant general keith kellogg adviser to vice president pence. general, good morning to you. vladimir putin, apparently at 3:30 in the morning he started with a missile attack. and then it sounds as if at 5:30. that's when he declared war. and all hell rained down. he said in part, general, he said this is part of i am going to denats phi ukraine. what does that mean it's invasion. going back 50, 60 years to make a comment that has no relevance
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at all to the situation. look, here's the thing we need to watch right now. right now and pete would know this as well. we are in the fog of war situation where you really don't know what is happening on the ground because as steve made a comment a second ago he can come from multiple directions if he wants to and he probably is so the question is how far is he going go? and it looks like he, in fact, wants to take over all of ukraine, all of ukraine. what he is doing is interesting though. is he being very surgical about it. he is going after military installations and defense installations, initially. you will notice he is trying to avoid civilian casualties. and i think part of that reason is because of the closest with ukrainians and russians and he doesn't want to alien made the people in any other guerrilla war. it's invasion. take out the military facilities. a long day to watch. the fog of war is kicking in. be very careful about what you hear and what's reported already during the course of the night
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seeing conflicting reports about where is he going and what he is doing. this will play itself out initially during the course of the day. >> pete: general, you are exactly right. we are getting a deluge of first reports which you alluded to are almost always wrong or incomplete as we continue through the morning we will refine and develop what's happening on the ground as there are missiles literally in the air right now. but you have mentioned what vladimir putin talks about. if you read the stage he gave justifying his launch of the military he talks a lot about world war ii. a lot about. >> steve: living in the past. >> pete: living in the past. in his mind, the way things are currently constructed on his borders is an insult to russia and that's the justification is he using. he said though, also, he is not interested in his statement at the same time our plans do not include the occupation of ukrainian territory. we can't believe that because his definition of an occupation might mean we're not going to try to hold all the ground but we are going kill the right people and install our own
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puppet government much like you have in belarus. an occupation can look different than say what we did in iraq and afghanistan for two decades with troops on the ground. >> yeah. pete, look, this is a -- he wants to eliminate the government that's the currently in power. put his own government in and a puppet government. but he is going to have some issues here about occupying parts of ukraine. he keeps talking about security and making sure that russia is safe. but he has also made some chilling comments that all of us should pay attention to very closely had when he has escalated his language and basically talking, if you read between the lines, he is talking about the use of nuclear weapons. that's what he is saying you will see something you have never seen before. we need to understand that we need to start pushing back really hard. this is one of those days we said i would say to the president, i walk into the oval office this morning and say to president biden, mr. president, you are now war time president. and you need to start acting like a war time president. this is just not ukraine. this is not just europe.
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this is how the whole world is going to look at you. president xi in china is looking at you today. the supreme leader in iran is looking at you today. kim jong sun looking at you today. you have to play like that from now on this. is no longer just a domestic issue. this is a global issue. everybody is watching you because you are the leader of the free world. how you act is going to be critical. he should start playing really hard. okay, mr. putin, you played your cards, i'm playing mine. we're all in. you are going to have to stare this guy down. play this guy down and it's not going to be easy. he needs to level with the american people today what this means. and he also needs to stand there and take questions from the press because this effects you, it effects me, it effects everybody. >> ainsley: that's exactly right. let's talk about this how this effects americans. it's not just the immediate. gas prices are going to go up. ukraine might be taken over. when you talk about nuclear weapons that is very scary, we know that ukraine gave up nuclear weapons in 1994. but yesterday, when putin in
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this televised speech announced war, and then he threatened the united states and all the western countries, he said a couple of words for those who would be tempted to intervene, russia will respond immediately and you will have consequences that you never have had before in your history. what does this mean going forward in a few months a few years for the united states? >> well, ainsley, look, this is one of those what i said about the president being a leader of the free world now and is he a war time president. you punch back. you basically tell him okay, if you want to play this game we can play it we are bigger than you are, mr. putin, count this. in western europe right now, you are not facing one nuclear power, the united states, you are facing the french, a nuclear power. member of nato. you are facing the brits, a nuclear power, member of nato. do you want to play this game? we can play it better than can you play it i would threaten him back. i would tell him, look, this is how we are going to play the game. okay, we have to go to conflict resolution, knock it off.
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you look at his language and you can't accept that language. i wouldn't accept it tell the president not to accept it you need to are doublely hard and double down on what he said and pushing back on it if that's where you want to go. that's what i was talking about being a world leader and the president now being a war time president. because this is a war that will effect all of us, and he needs to understand that it's not a local issue anymore. >> steve: absolutely. the president is going to be speaking at noon today. folk can see it on fox. let's see the tone and tenure of what he has to say. general, while you were speaking, we put up a graphic that showed how -- how outgunned ukraine is i mean, russia has been building up for -- they had the cold war to build up. they had the after cold war. take a look at this. ukraine has about 300,000 active personnel. russia, close to a million. reserve personnel, ukraine has got about -- almost a million. russia has 2 million.
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artillery, ukraine 1800, russia three times that. armored personnel carriers, ukraine has 600. russia has 6,000. ukraine has got about 900 tanks. russia has got about 3,000. helicopters, ukraine 35, russia 394. although we have heard that apparently ukraine knocked one out of the sky last night. and active air force planes, ukraine has 125, russia has 1,000. this is truly a david and goliath situation. i know which side we would like to see win. but they're out gunned. >> oh yeah, steve, look. i hate to say it it's unfair fight but it's an unfair fight. we can't re-litigate yesterday. we have to think about today, tomorrow, and the future. because there is a lot of things we can go back and look at say should have could have done ande not done. and ukraine is obviously at a complete disadvantage out there.
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that's why we have to be very, very strong going forward. look, i hate to say this and it sounds terrible. it's basically a lost cause. what i mean by that the russians have got overwhelming force. they can beat the ukrainians and you know and it i know it and everybody else knows it. they just cannot match up because putin can escalate wherever he wants to go. he has better forces, better trained forces, more forces, he has 70% of his army right now moving somewhere into ukraine. and he has got those fighters, bombers, he has his missiles systems. they are all up. here is what concerns me also. there is a real chance for miscalculation and that's how wars escalate. somebody makes a mistake. and i would tell putin very clearly you better be very, very careful about what you are doing if you he is can late one bit if you kill an american or go into nato it's game over. we are coming after you. he needs to know that we need to tell the russian people that too. if that's how you want to play
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that game we will play it that's why i'm talking about the language use. he has to be very, very forceful. he can't say minor incursion or happens to be in ukraine. this is now a global issue. he is now a global leader and he must portray that and project that and if he doesn't, he is hurting not only the world. he is hurting the united states of america. you know, when this thing is done and it will end sooner or later, then we need to do some recalibration on how we look at both nato and how we look at the european alliance and who reacted well, who was on our side, who utter spaed us well and move forward from there. but today is the day. and we must react to today in a very aggressive. a thug of a leader, authoritarian leader and how do we react to that? it's all up to the president of the united states. >> ainsley: general, who is going to stop him though july 12th putin sent out a man amanifesto saying he was going o do this. joe biden, nato didn't do anything. if we let him say this for so
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long and let him get away with it, what are we going to do now? >> it's a great question. i don't want to relit late yesterday and i wish we could but we can't, but that's what i was talking about being a war time leader. we are going to find out the temper of and what kind of individual joe biden is as a war time leader. because that's what this is. what happened yesterday the things should have happened but they didn't. i'm going to judge everything from today requesting forward. -- going forward. this is the largest fight in uranium since world war ii. ukraine is the second largest country in europe. and we didn't do anything when he went into georgia in 2008 under george -- president obama. and then what happened in 2014 in crimea, but you actually have to go back further than that with russia. and when you look at what russia did with chetna, and just level that city. this has been a very aggressive nation and need to push back on
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that. it's been a pattern. we cannot show a pattern of indecisiveness right now. we have to be very decisive and push back hard. better bring the rest of the world with us. that's where we go to the u.n., nato everybody. this is a rogue regime out of control that's got nuclear weapons and it's got as many nuclear weapons as we do. that's the reason wife i get very concerned about escalation because of somebody making a big mistake and he needs to know you make a mistake and russia is gone. it is an extension level event. and he needs to know it and the russian people need to know it and the president of the united states needs to tell him that and he needs to tell the american people that i have haven't seen a crisis like this very candidly since the cuban missile crisis. we have got two nuclear powers facing off right now. and just sit back and think about that. >> and think about what he has said. he has had very aggressive language today. we need to respond to that. >> pete: general, we are talking a lot at the strategic level and
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what the united states should do and what joe biden should say and it will be interesting in light of sanctions being almost the only answer what is talked about at the white house today. but i would like to get a little operational and tactical if we can. you have been a battlefield commander of raid forces. you talk about going into the oval office and what you would counsel the president of the united states. what would you counsel zelenskyy today. what do they do against the david against the goliath? it seems they were hoping to the end that this conflict wouldn't happen. now it's even wider probably than they expected. tactically operationally so outgunned what can and should ukrainians do? >> well, you know, this is their defining moment as a nation. i mean, and how they fight. they are going to have to resist to every degree they have. and if you are an operational commander you understand you are outgunned and you know it but you have to fight. when history records this, they need to record this that ukrainians fought to the last
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man and they need to do that. they need to fight back because they are going to be overwhelmed. what i would also srmd that we get zelenskyy out of there. i'm hoping we have assets to pull him out. zelenskyy and i had an opportunity to meet him with vice president pence in warsaw in 2019. he's a good man. and is he a fighter. and is he one of those that he is not going to cut and run. and we need to get him out of there because he has to fight and he needs to fight from exile. he shouldn't be in a cell next to navalny. that's where putin either wants him to be or he is going to kill him. we need to bring him out and continue to fight. we need to have some type of an ability to fight in a resistance way. you tell and what i would tell putin. you know, when the soviet union was in afghanistan, they left because the huge ha dean, if you thought afghanistan was bad. you watch what we are going to do in ukraine. you now have declared war not just on ukraine, you declared war on europe. on the world on your attitude and we are going to change that
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attitude. and. >> pete: would that mean that you would counsel don't try to fight russia in a conventional way but dissolve and turn almost more immediately to an insurgency or counsel outgunned army like ukraine to attempt toe fight them conventionally first? what should they do. >> you know, pete, i would fight them conventionally first. you have to go down swinging you can't cut and run because the world is going to see that. this is your defining moment as a nation and as a military. you fight it at the same time in the back of your mind saying -- sort of like churchill said we are going to fight you on the beaches and the field and the hills. if you have to, go to the hills. we are going to fight you all the way. sort of like what we did in the fill beans in world war ii. you may have taken bataan and craigador fight from inside the philippines. they need to understand that you can't just leave the battlefield. that is a fighting moment for
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you and the citizens of ukraine. you have to fight. it's going to be bloody. but you have to do that because what putin is doing is very clear to me, just -- well i shouldn't say clear because going after military installations. you have to suck it up and say you are going to fight yourself in a tactical and conventional way. you made the comment, you know, there is a fog of war going on. we have to see. this has to develop. this has only been going on a few hours. and the course of this day we're going to see where he is going and what he is doing and what he is trying to do. then you make the defining call of what you need to do. what i would probably do if i was ukraine, if it was me as a commander, i would pull my forces probably to the west of the river and say that's where you are going to make your fight. fight along the river and west and push him hard there. hand say we're going to give up the eastern one third only because of overwhelming force. extend the supply lines, extend
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logistics lines, make sure he has to get further away. and get into an area not comfortable. in ukrainian speaking area instead of a russian speaking area. and maybe not russian-supporting but russian speaking. so get him out of his comfort zone. get the russian army out of their comfort zone and put them in an area that's actually getting closer to nato so the level of concern also rises on his part. these are all tactical and operational decisions you have to make you have to operate on current level. operational army and strategic level that's president biden. >> steve: very sobering words. you were talking about the fog of war. we were looking at some of the image thats of destruction and there was literally fog from the smoke and fires that have ensued. general, thank you very much for your point of view. >> ainsley: thank you for your point of view. socialering words. when you hear him talking about the tactical measures they would take you realize the power
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generals have lives are on the line and how we trust them to make the right decisions. he also said that zelenskyy should leave. were you surprised by that? >> pete: other people have recommended that as well. ultimately you could -- if you allow your government to be completely decapitated, they have effectively achieved their goal from the beginning. so, the long history of governments in exile. >> ainsley: what does that too to the people on the troops on the ground. >> pete: balance. become a government next sil have you effective live abandoned your ability to govern your own territory? that survive and live to fight another day. that walls the question i was asking him with the ukrainian military as well. survive to fight another day. i thought what he said was interesting. effective live try to lure -- not lure that's the wrong but channel the enemy to terrain and locations where you have a bit more of an advantage. >> steve: you have got to get into zelenskyy's head and what steve harrigan said from that point of view about 20 minutes ago. he said zelenskyy is telling the people of ukraine we'll give you a gun. they are going to come for us, and we are going to have a gun
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at our hours and we are going to defend ourselves. >> ainsley: does that tell you that they don't have confidence that they have enough? steeft steve that means they are going to go down swinging. one thing we have learned in the last 25 minutes and if you are just joining us, russia has invaded ukraine, is the fact that they had prepositioned soible assets, russia did, to the north and the south. and the east. and that's why they can't tell exactly where these missiles are coming from because they are surrounded. >> pete: yeah. that's the question we're pondering this morning is what happens next? if i may, we will take a look at the maps right now. >> steve: perfect segway. >> pete: steve just mentioned it, this is not a surprise to anyone the fact that vladimir putin is invading. the question was how significant and from what direction? just a quick remind. this is earlier -- late in 2021, barely 100,000 russian troops positioned at this point. but if this is the donbas, which
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it is, this is the disputed region the republic declared independent. where he most directly had grievances you would expect to see more forces a raid there. so the concern was already real. much before december of 2021 that putin's ambitions were much broader than just eastern ukraine. let's fast forward to time now. as far as forces. it became clearer and clearer and clearer, unless it was an absolute bluff by vladimir putin that his ambitions were far beyond just this disputed mostly russian speaking area, which has been, frankly, under contest and war since 2014. they have been in conflict for 8 years. so the forces were all different types, special operations, surface missiles, surface to air missiles. amphibious, the black sea effectively blockaded by ships. and what was very interesting to note if you look at other analysis of these locations they came from all across russia, from as far as the
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russia-chinese border. ships from as far as the artic. this became the main effort for vladimir putin. it appeared what looked to be appeared to be the new effort here shifted in military presence. let's fast forward to where we are right now. this is a map we used yesterday. and, again, i want to emphasize what general kellogg said in the program. in the fog of war you get initial reports about where troops may or may not be. we work very hard with the fox news channel with our correspondents on the ground. >> sources on the ground to confirm locations of troops. locations of explosion, routes by which vladimir putin is attempting to invade. yesterday we anticipated that these are the potential invasion routes he would use. turns out as we wake up this morning he has done just that. and this dotted line out of belarus was a question mark. potentially a flanking maneuver. what we believe we know today based on reports on the ground is that indeed the client state of belarus where military exercises were being conducted used as one of the primary
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staging grounds for this invasion. why is that significant in the capital city of kyiv. it's the closest location to a sprint run to the capital city of kyiv. if you look at the dot dot dot. >> steve: that essentially is where the tanks have been rolling in from. >> pete: that is a not a dot dot dot anymore. that is where tanks have been rolling in from. we have seen tank movements here exactly where roughly where this arrow is. this is also where we saw military field hospitals popping up and then in crimea, interest is video out there right now of russian tanks and russian heavy trucks moving right through the checkpoints and into ukraine. the question -- right now most of ukraine's primary fighting ground forces are located here. you could anticipate that vladimir putin is trying to tie them down through this location while attempting to make buying time through sign everywhere attacks, through targeted surface to surface missiles to decapitate the ukrainian regime. you want to take out leadership
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and military capabilities, there are reports of upwards of 5 to 6 russian fighter jets potentially shot down. vladimir putin is claiming that that was in service of totally destroying ukraine's air defense systems which means russia would control the sky. when you control the skies you are able to more easily move ground troops. you might also see there are reports down here in desis a major port that paratroopers have potentially landed there. we don't know that for again. you can be inserting special operations troops in certain locations to effect, again, to decapitate or destabilize and create roots for more conventional forces to make it there i talked about the explosions and we do have a map of that as well this morning. these are preparatory fires as the general knows very well. you are prepping targets, softening targets to create opportunity for follow-on forces. in kyiv, reports that military headquarters have been targeted there. communication sites. infrastructure. barracks. they are going at russian
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capabilities, communication. this charkiv second largest cities in ukraine, explosions as well as troops. look how close that is to the russian border. this is i would say probably vemple a tiny fraction ever the amount of currently explosions heard across the country. we have seen them missile attack as far as here. steve, to your point about where our missiles -- ballistic missiles coming from in kyiv, they you mentioned it, they could be coming from anywhere to include the black sea where they have the capability of reaching the entirety of ukraine. this is all of ukraine right now. >> ainsley: to the west of ukraine there is austria, poland, romania is down below in the southwestern region. what does it mean. >> steve: start shooting from there we are in trouble. >> ainsley: what it does it mean from these countries. people are getting in cars to flee. >> pete: poland the immediate option for most people fleeing the ground. they are not going to belarus.
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because it's a client state of vladimir putin who has allowed him to use russian forces. baltic states to the north some order russia. if there was a next phase to this which would be scary to think. trigger a different response from the west it would be in the baltic states. right now if you are fleeing ukraine you probably have limited options if you are trying to get out of city centers because those are the places being targeted by ballistic missiles right now. >> steve: pete, come on back over that was very good. those are just locations where fox news has been able to confirm we have heard explodes. pete pete reports of so many more. >> steve: there are reports of explosions all around the country from east to west as well. we have been talking about the military. now let's talk about the money. this is a fox news alert. financial markets worldwide essentially are tanking right now. feeling the impact plaintiff putin's aggression. dow futures plunging as the moscow exchange suspends all
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stock trading because people are trying to short the stock. >> pete: while markets drop, croyle now surging above $100 a barrel for the first time since 2014. >> ainsley: here to break it all down for us what it means for you, your family, your pocketbook. the host of varney and company on stuart varney. >> good morning. >> ainsley: dow futures are down plunging. what does this mean for the american family. gaffes prices up. >> let's look at the impact of us here in america. first off gasoline prices will go up. the price of oil at $100 a barrel this morning. currently we have got about 3.50 for gallon of gas, regular across the country. i think it's going to go to $4 fairly quickly. i would not be at all surprised to see people lining up at the gas station, fill up the tank as you can that particular pricing about phier. that means it's going to cost more to heat your home. overall energy prices are at the root cause of inflation.
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when energy prices go up and they're going up rapidly, inflation goes up. so going to pay more at the grocery store. going to pay more to deliver your stuff. you are going to pay more to have it made in the first place. energy price inflation will make our current inflation even worse. now if you go to the stock market. about 100 million americans have some exposure to the market. usually through their 401(k). the market is i'm not going to say plunging, but it's down very, very sharply. so the money you've got in the 401(k) already down 10%, 15% this year. probably going to go down some more. if i just have one more quick word here. the president is going to announce what sanctions, new sanctions is he going to impose. if he imposes sanctions on russian oil and gas companies and he may, that will make our energy price inflation even worse here. because we already take delivery of russian oil. most people don't know that but we actually import oil from russia of all places.
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>> ainsley: last year 230 million barrels of oil from russia. >> thank you. precisely right. if you cut that off, what does that do to the supply and demand situation? >> steve: since 2017 we have taken in this country 55% more russian oil. by the way, the russian ryu bell is sliding to its lowest value ever today in russia. >> the russian people are going to pay a price for this. >> steve: absolutely. >> inflation will take off in russia. >> steve: stuart, to your points americans are going to pay, too. we knew this was going to happen. we knew that if putin did what he is doing, prices would go up. and we would be hurt. and our white house correspondent asked jen psaki about it yesterday. it exactly what would happen. listen to her answer. it's very telling. will. >> gas in california is almost $5 a gallon. should people across the country expect do see that kind of a number when they go to gas up their car? $5, $6?
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>> again, as you heard the president say last week. standing up for our values is not without costs. what we're trying to do is mine mize that cost. so i don't have a prediction of it right now because we're trying to minimize the impact on the global energy markets. steve: so because we're standing up for your values and apparently we are only standing up with sanctions backing us up, that's why our gas is going to go up a buck or two. >> i don't know about a buck or two but i think $4 for a gallon of regular gasoline as a natural average, i think that is on the near horizon. i think it's going to happen. if the present sanctions, russian oil and gas companies group much faster than that. >> pete: forgive me digging into this a little bit. i would love to understand it better. so we know that the biden administration, you know, through the keystone xl pipeline and not allowing additional exploration, they have limited our ability to be energy independent. we already know that what in particular about what's going down with ukraine with russia drives those oil prices so high? is it a restriction in the
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amount that they are able to export? is it limits because of our sanctions? how exactly does that -- because we are going to start to hear a conflation from this administration well the reason we have inflation or the reason we have high oil prices is because of ukraine, ukraine only. we he know it's more than that. >> you got to go back to the very first day of the biden administration. when the cancel the keystone pipeline and then cut back on the drilling for oil and natural gas. and restricted our energy independence, that gave putin leverage. because he is a petro you cut our splice, rely on his supplies, you got a petro state. we are in trouble. >> steve: stuart, look at that map right there russia is europe's gas station it? >> is absolutely. if that's cut off. can you imagine what's going on in germany right now? already the cost of electricity, which is vital in manufacturing their cars, is already five times the price of electricity here. and it's going way up from there gas supplies probably restricted
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or cut off completely. it's a really difficult situation for the europeans and for us at the moment. when we lost our energy independence, we gave putin leverage. when we withdrew from afghanistan, in chaos, we looked like we were fumbling, looked like we were weak. you combine that original energy mistake with a withdrawal from afghanistan, and the weakness which we perceived about us, that's why putin is doing what he is doing. my personal opinion. >> ainsley: do you think the president will ever forego the green new deal and bring back the keystone pipeline so that we can be energy independent and we can fund or send oil to some of these countries that our allies that are going to be affected by russia? >> that is exactly what he should do. reverse course on energy now. i don't think he will. >> steve: because he would anger his base who put him in office. let's talk about something else. apparently ukraine in adigits -- bombs, missiles being targeted
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at military installations, apparently hackers are wreaking havoc cyber wise on bank and other big institutions in ukraine. it's just a matter of time until they start trying to do that here. >> i would imagine that's part of the threat. we take sanctions against them, we take action against them. they take cyber action against us. surely that's part of the game plan here, isn't it? what am i missing? >> steve: you would think. so is there anything americans can do to protect themselves other than don't click on that link you don't know what the heck it is. >> i'm not sure how i can advise anybody on security. >> steve: you are the money guy. >> i have enough trouble myself i'm not going to engage in that. >> pete: real quick, what's the financial situation in russia. >> real problem. interest rates in russia, the classic russian bong, the interest rate on it has gone well above 10%. here it's 1.8%. so, financing anything in russia is extremely expensive. at the same time, you got inflation in russia which is
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about to take off. i mean, literally take off. the russian oil and gas companies, what have we got here? we have gas and -- the two big oil and gas companies in russia. overnight they lost 1/3 of their value. just like that. >> steve: stuart, down in the corner of our live picture of moscow right now, you can see that apparently the dow jones industrial futures are down about 850 with the stock market opening in less than three hours. >> everyone loses. everyone loses on this. that's the way it is. >> steve: you will have coverage about this and so many other things starting at 9:00 eastern over on fox business. >> thanks, everybody. >> ainsley: thanks, stuart. >> steve: meanwhile, let's talk a little bit about nato. what are they doing in the secretary general of that organization saying russia has shattered your honor. gillian turner joins our fox team coverage from the white house. gillian, good morning. >> good morning to you guys. the big ticket item on the
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president's agenda today is going to be his meeting with g-7 allies to discuss a coordinated response to those attacks overnight by the russian government inside ukraine. it's really important to note that the white house is very insistent they are not going to make any moves right now or in the near term at all to counter putin without the backing of this kyiv core group. just a few hours ago, the president saying in a statement trojan i will meet with my g-7 counterparts in the morning and then speak to the american people to announce the further consequences the u.s. and allies and partners will impose on russia for needless act of aggression against ukraine and global peace. now, just a few hours ago as the attacks got underway the president spoke to ukraine's president briefing him on, quote steps we are taking to rally international condemnation including tonight at the u.n. security council. he has asked me to call on the leaders of the world to speak out clearly against president putin's flagrant aggression and to stand with the people of ukraine. now, for this meeting with the
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g-7 leadership, the secretary of the treasury is going to be with the president. the secretary of state is also going to be on hand. this is because we are told that more new sanctions are still very much on the table. let's do a quick recap of what is now in place full blocking sanctions. yesterday came those sanctions on the nord stream 2 pipeline. we have not heard anything from the president so far this morning. but we are now standing by as is the entire world to see what is he going to say in this address. guys? >> steve: gillian, it's very interesting. of course joe biden was vice president the last time there was a big problem and our sanctions were not enough. and over the last couple of days we have heard from the former dni james clapper yeah, i wish we would have done more last time. well, now, what we have done so far doesn't seem like enough. russia is in there, they seem, you know, they are yawning at these sanctions so far.
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>> we did hear the night before last direct from ukraine foreign minister he told bret baier he really wishes all the sanctions in place now had been in blaze a couple of weeks ago. what we are seeing is definitionly not going to be strong enough unless it is really only a very preliminary first step by the biden administration. is he kind of in agreement with you. steve: yep. okay. we will hear from the president in that building behind you at noon. gillian, thank you. >> ainsley: thanks, gillian. a former european leader whose homeland was invaded by russia wishes the west that we all have listened to him. >> pete: former georgian president says he, quote: warned all my western friends about russia becoming more dangerous and drawing more red lines. and they looked at me like i was nuts. now lots of people believe the same. here to react texas gubernatorial candidate retired army colonel allen west. you heard what we have just
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talked about with gillian turner. our response so far has been no red lines with increased incremental sanctions and putin has blown right through all of them. where are we today? >> well, where we are today is that we are in a complete reactionary mode where when we should have been more proactive. we have to understand that despots, dictators and autocrats only understand two things stress and might. takes you back to what ronald reagan said peace through strength. you see a it many different aspects of weakness and failure. they see we are not protecting our own southern border which is very integral to us here in texas. they see that we have capitulated our own energy independence, our oil and gas, they look at the failure that we saw in afghanistan and they continue to see a president that has a plummeting approval ratings and as well this is a redo of the obama administration you just talked about how when it was obama-biden they overran
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those parts of eastern ukraine and crimea. this is a window of opportunity. now we need to be prepared what happens with china making a move on taiwan. >> steve: colonel, for people just waking up, russia has invaded ukraine. and it was shock and awe. it's almost as if they watched how we did it in baghdad back in the day because at 3:30 in the morning there were airstrikes and then two hours later all hell broke loose all across the country. right now they have tried to take out the commands and control of the air force and essentially ukraine's air force is grounded. whatever planes are left. if the past is prologue, is from anything ukraine can do now because russia is coming for them. >> no, you are absolutely right. i think it was george who said that those who failed to learn from history are doomed to repeat it we don't have to go back to iraq. we can go back to the late 130s and we saw exactly what
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happened there between the european powers and adolf hitler when you had the demands for the land, when you had czechoslovakia on the table they continued to acquiesce. [no audio] and you are right. [no audio] as stuart varney just said europe and so we should not have undermined our own oil and gas industry. and the other thing is that they should have been building up and strengthening nato and understanding the threats that they have from russia. so, he has pushed them right into a pointed where he has seen weakness and president trump tried to get the nato members to stand up stronger but that has not happened and we don't see it happening and i'm very concerned because we have the cast of characters that gave us the failure of afghanistan to be still in charge of our military right now and our national security. >> ainsley: colonel, i was
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reading about russia's arsenal of thermobarak weapons. they could launch explosive warheads so powerful they can melt an exposing army. explode the lungs of his enemies in ukraine. that was from the sun. then sources are also saying they shared videos of convoys of these weapons. so deadliest weapons on battlefield heading to the ukrainian border. what do you know about these weapons and the capabilities that russia has? >> well, i would say i don't know specifically about those weapons. but i will tell you that we have been sitting around and watching vladimir putin build up his military power just the same as we see the same with china. china has taken their status in the world -- economic system to build up their military power and russia has used their oil and gas to do the same thing and increase weapon system development. so i'm very concerned that, again, we are reacting, we are playing catch up to two very strong, very powerful, very aggressively dictators and
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autocrats and that being xi jinping and vladimir putin. i don't think vladimir putin is taking this action without the knowledge of xi jinping and probably without his consent. >> pete: that's exactly right. china overnight put out a statement not condemning what is hang here and effectively blaming the united states of america in this particular case. >> steve: because we're interfering. >> pete: using the same propaganda that vladimir putin has used. so, if looking forward, concerning, we are seeing while you were talking, explosions we're playing tapes of explosions happening throughout ukraine. this invasion was probably the largest you could have expected at least at this moment considering the menu of options as you look forward and it's never -- we're never capable of fully predict. >> whereby does it go based on the explosion throughout the country. troops belarus eastern side crimea entering ukraine what does putin want? >> putin wants ukraine. that's been the bread basket of
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the old soviet union. and that's how he sees it as everyone knows he wants to trial to begin to restore the old soviet union. i think we have to start looking at the baltic states and definitely poland. that is nato territory but for right now, is he going to believe that he has the momentum and the on his side as i say stated he sees a very weak and failing president who does not have a lot of strong support from the american people. >> ainsley: when you say look at the baltic states and look at poland, do you think that's next? is that goal number 2? >> well, again, i'm a student of history. and it did not stop at the sudanen land europe. did not stop at czechoslovakia, he sees that as soviet territory. is he going to look to see how far he can push nato and how far he can push this. he wants to have v. all of those -- going to start talking about russians in the baltic states and how he needs to protect those people there. so, this is going to continue on
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until he sees some deterrent force that's going to stand up against him. is he not going to get it from joe biden. >> steve: one country trip at a time. tomorrow trying to take ukraine. see what he does tomorrow. >> ainsley: our breaking news coverage is going to continue after this break. lara trump is going to break down you how biden's presence on the world stage impacted plans for thin investigation. dry eye symptoms keep driving you crazy? inflammation in your eye might be to blame. let's kick ken's ache and burn into gear! over the counter eye drops typically work by lubricating your eyes and may provide temporary relief. those drops will probably pass right by me. xiidra works differently, targeting inflammation that can cause dry eye disease. what's that? xiidra? no! it can provide lasting relief. xiidra is the only fda-approved non-steroid eye drop specifically for the signs and symptoms of dry eye disease. one drop in each eye, twice a day.
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>> as far as russia is concerned they have had a lot of conflict over the centuries. i think it's a terrible thing the way it started i really don't believe he wanted to do this initially. i think he wanted to do something and negotiate and it just got worse and worse. and then he saw the weakness. do you know it really started, i think, with the weakness in afghanistan, the way they pulled out of afghanistan. i really believe that's where he started thinking he can do this. >> steve: there you have got former president donald trump last night on this channel calling out president biden's foreign policy agenda as the world feels the impact of his invasion that has just started. >> ainsley: fox news contributor lara trump joins us now with more. good morning to you, lara. >> good morning, guys. good to be with you.
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>> ainsley: good morning. if your father-in-law were still president, what would he do? >> well, i think we all know if donald trump was president, this would not have happened. i mean, the reality is when bullies are looking around the world like vladimir putin, checking things out. they are not going after people that they know are strong and powerful and will use that power against them. they were very sure when donald trump was in office they shouldn't mess with america. we exuded strength on the world stage when donald trump was there. and now we see joe biden in office. how many times with retalked about how weak america has looked since the day that joe biden was inaugurated. we had weakness when it came to the exit from afghanistan. weakness on our own southern border, weakness when it comes china. president biden could be it bothered to ask about the origins of covid-19. vladimir putin had watched all of that my father-in-law in that soundbite you just played there,
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gosh, if there is ever a time to paul stunt like this and try to invade ukraine, now is the time to do it. you couple how weak we have looked under the leadership of our current president with the energy situation and day one of the biden presidency we all know he canceled the keystone xl pipeline taking away america's energy independence. simultaneously a few months later, giving a green light to nord stream 2 that has enriched russia, you know, in a way we had never even imagined, gave him a stranglehold on europe and has by all accounts likely funded the act ever russia to invade ukraine right now. so it is a total mess. none of this would have even been possible had donald trump remained our president but alas here we where joe biden in the white house. >> steve: lara, we have only about 30 seconds. you combine the problems with the oil supply now with inflation, ultimately, when november comes around, people --
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i don't know that people will remember what happened in ukraine but they are going to remember they paid so much for gas and a loaf of bread. >> steve if you think it's expensive right now, everyone has predicted because of what is going on in eastern europe, it's only going to get worse. people are always going to vote with their pocketbooks, when they pay more voting for the other guy. should be good for the republicans. unfortunately it has come to a situation like this none of us wanted to see something like this happen. >> pete: exactly right. weakness invites challenge that's what we are seeing this morning with the invasion of ukraine. thank you so much for being here. appreciate it. >> ainsley: thanks, lara. >> thanks, guys. >> pete: urkens fleeing homeland this morning after waking up to all out war. coverage of the russian invasion continues next hour.
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ukrainian air force. ukrainians are starting to flee. stand still traffic as they are trieding to head west as the country reports dozens of deaths now so far. steve harrigan leads our coverage from kyiv. morning, steve, i was watching before our show went on the air when you were interviewing with "fox & friends first" and i heard -- saw the explosions behind you and you really -- you seemed to react with a lot of fear, understandably so. what was that experience like. tell the audience who is just waking up what happened. a fear a lot of people are feeling in the city today it's justified and normal. we have been hearing since an hour before dawn today explosions. it hasn't been seahawk and awe but probably 20 or 25 explosions. probably missiles targeted to defense buildings they say they
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are using defense in the capital. we have not seen casualties but strikes. one of those strikes on the air 5:00 a.m. eastern time. building about a mile behind me and still smell the smoke from that but you are right it scares anybody. and that fear has spread and people are trying to get out of here. they are getting in their cars. and they are driving west toward poland. the problem is it's a traffic jam right now. people are in lines also at atms for money. in lines at stores for food. i think it was hard for penal to come to grips with the fact that russia was going to attack ukraine. people didn't think it could ever happen. it's hang now. the government didn't really prepare people for it major leaders in this government were saying there is going to be no wider war. it's clear now there is a i had woulder war. people are stuck and trying to flee quickly. so we have seen 20 to 25 explosions. the real question is what is going to happen next? you have got to think with a wider war like this, putin wants
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it all. putin wants to change the regime here in the capital and to do that, russian forces are going to have to come here. could we see urban fighting or will they wait outside the city? it's been amazing seeing some of the statements come out. zelenskyy says we will give arms to anybody who wants to fight with us. any civilian, come down we are going to arm you. defend your square, defend your village, defend your town. so it's a dire situation for ukrainian military right now. 8 hours in, they are still in control of their capital and we will see how that goes. guys? >> steve: steve, it's a little after 2:00 in the afternoon things started coming up where you are because that's where the missiles, you know, tried to take out some location. i would not imagine you have been able to get out and eyeball the, you know, the destruction. but ultimately, what's going on is as you said, mr. putin is
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coming for mr. zelenskyy, the president. any idea where he is? >> that's right. >> well, he just appeared on t. have a short time ago and we have seen a lot of ukrainian military move towards the presidential palace here. but you are right to pointed out how difficult it is to get around and to see. nerves are so high on both sides. local police took a shot at a western cameraman a short time ago because they thought he was filming their position. so, people are very afraid, tension is very high. and there is fighting on the outskirts of the city. and, you know, russian troops are on the move this way from the north and from the south. i think there is a lot of question marks for people staying here. you know, you hear things and you are not sure what it is. i'm looking at an old man who is walking with his cane right now and i'm just feeling sad for
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him. there is a lot of people in the subway who are just hiding from bombs this is a city under martial law. people afraid and people stuck in basements and people on the highway. terrible situation for the entire nation. putin said he was doing this to protect russians in eastern ukraine. this has gone way beyond that so far, steve. >> pete: so for our viewers waking up i think you heard you right you have heard over the course of your reporting 20 to 25 excompletions inside the capital city of kyiv. and we're getting images now. >> ainsley: subway. >> pete: second largest city khariv. has there been reports of russian troops outside that town. we are hearing about explosions. are you hearing, give our viewers a sense of how far kyiv is from either the russian border or the belrusian border. belarus is just to the north. how quickly could russian troops
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advance should they maintain their air superiority or put in special operations forces? how quickly could that capital, which is quiet right now in a military movement become a full-on shooting war? >> you are right. russia does have air superiority and they have claimed already at this point they have knocked out all of ukraine's air defenses. we can't verify that. this city kyiv is in the north. and it's about 100 miles exactly from the border with belarus. rickenbacker has 30,000 troops there in belarus. those troops are already on the move. they have already crossed the border. they are already heading this way. you know, even u.s. intelligence said the russians can take this city within two days. we are 8 hours in. so that fire fight, that battle is likely still ahead. >> ainsley: steve, what does that look like when vice vladimr putin russians are able to take over and win this war in
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ukraine. does he just say now you are a part of russia, you are going to be russian? you can still continue your life as you have been or does he arrest them? what happens? >> >> i think part of the reason many people didn't believe this would happen was because it is such almost impossible under taking to make it happen. i don't think you can subdue a nation of 40 million people who don't want to be subdued with an arm of a million and with the support of nato, europe, the u.s., i don't think it can happen. he is come in here. let's see what happens when his supply lines are being attacked from all over. >> steve: steve, you have been reporting from ukraine the last week or so and you talked about i think i asked you yesterday what the sense was on the street. and there was -- people were not e -- people were calm. but now they have panicked because apparently they were in denial that russia was actually
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going to come. well, now they are coming. we just showed some of the scary pictures of the people because they feel they are exposed above ground so they go into the subway to hide. they go in the subways and tunnels and, you know, anywhere they can. you know, yesterday you said there were no lines at the atm. now apparently the atms will only allow you to take out $3,000. you could have $100 million in and they are only going to give you 3,000. the gas stations are 10 deep because people need gas to he get the heck out of town. >> it's hard. you know, it's hard to prepare for this. psychologically i understand it. it's hard to imagine your neighbor is going to fire ballistic missiles at your building that's what's happening. if he is going to do that, what can you do? can't pull a iron dome out of your closet. hide in basement or flea. finance hard to flee if you have a job house, kids in school. if you don't have the money.
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a lot of the these people are just running for their lives at this point. because of the nature of the situation, they are stuck. they can't even run. >> pete: that's the question, steve. military age male unless ukraine. is it your sense that people are inclined to flea? are they inclined to fight and how well armed are civilians? we know about our second amendment here. how prevalent are firearms and the willingness for young men who are not already in the military to take up arms? >> the more video i'm seeing and some of it we can't verify of ukrainians in action on the field of battle against russian forces, the more i'm beginning to think this might be a very tough task even for the massive russian army. i think there is a strong will to fight here. i think people have been outraged by putin's behavior. by implying they are not a country. and i think a lot of ukrainians, 18 to 65 are going to put their lives on the line to it foot.
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>> ainsley: all right. thank you so much, steve. >> steve: stay safe. >> ainsley: bring in chad wolf former acting dhs secretary under donald trump. >> good morning to you, mr. secretary. >> good morning. >> ainsley: good morning. so yesterday vladimir putin had a televised announcement which he was threatening the west, including the united states. he said a couple of words for those who would be tempted to intervene russia, russia will respond immediately, and you will have consequences that you have never had before in your history. what exactly does that mean? is that cyberattacks or is that something more? >> well, i think as it relates to the united states, it certainly cyberattacks. i think we know that that is not only their playbook but they have the capability to do it. ukraine saw that in 2015 and 2016 on attacks to their infrastructure. so we know they have the ability to do that in ukraine. we also know they have the ability to too that elsewhere in the united states as well as the rest of the world. so, you should, i think, folks
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should suspect or expect that as this unfolds and western european nations become involved, the u.s. becomes involved, we do more sanctions and russian government could certainly launch certain types of cyber attacks against the united states and other allies across the world. so certainly our cyber defenses need to be up. both at the department of homeland security as well as nsa and others around the government. probably have those defenses up and looking for key indicators. >> pete: mr. secretary what is our doctrinal on not just defense in cyber sen natureio but offense. will consequences greater than ever faced in history. he said i hope i have been heard. we don't want to go down the dangerous trail he talked about nuclear weapons and all of that set a side and hope that's not potentiality. let's say there is a cyberattack
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intervene at some level like the united states. how too we respond? >> well, once an attack occurs we are playing defensive measures. you are trying to shore up your defenses at that point let led by the intelligence community. identify certain things that are going to occur in the future and get word of that then, obviously we can launch certain cyber offensive capabilities but we have got to know about that in advance. you have got to have pretty good intelligence and know what to target. specifically. again, once the attack occurs and a network has been compromised then you are playing defense and trying to restore a lot of those capabilities at that time. so this is really driven by the intelligence community, what they have been picking up. i have been fairly impressed thus far about what they have
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seen and predict what putin is going to do in ukraine. do they have is a same insight when it comes to cyberattacks which is different that traditional military maneuvers. a lot of these cyber actors are not affiliated with the russian government but backed by the russian government. >> steve: in fact, our dhs secretary mayorkas said yesterday there are no known threats whether it comes to cyber. the same message from the white house podium. but, to your point about remember the colonial attack a year ago, our president said hey, putin, don't ever let that happen again or else something bad is going to happen. well, now, you know, putin had said, you know, those are people i can't control them. and we'll see what happens. well now he is unleashing the dogs on everybody. is he doing it against ukraine right now at this hour. >> yeah. i think that's right. i think it's clear that, you know, putin really doesn't fear the united states at the moment. i think that comes from a lack
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of leadership not only from the president, the vice president, and others. so, i think we have got to understand that but, again, i think at this point we have got to look towards what are the offenses, what are those key indicators when we thinked that the cyberattacks occurring right now on ukraine on certain websites, defense frmses and the like. once they decide to go beyond that they go to western europe and the united states. that has got to be led by the intelligence community giving us enough insight to that to, again, make sure that we put up our defenses and then can take offensive measures as well. >> pete: mr. secretary a bit off topic but not really. you are the secretary of the homeland security. a lot of viewers right now myself included frustrated by the fact that our southern border is wide open in the united states of america. yet, we are obsessing over a border half a world away. how concerned should would he be as far as it pertains to our national security when it comes to what vladimir putin is doing
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in the ukraine? >> well, i think we have to be really concerned at this moment. i have said over the past 12 months if bad actors want to try to infiltrate the united states then they have a playbook on how to do that along the southern border. what we have seen over the past several months is more and more individuals from around the world crossing that border illegally. it's no longer just mexico and no longest arer just central america. seeing folks from arab sharks africa. all over the globe coming to swefts border because they know they have a better chance today than they ever have before crossing that border illegally and getting into the country and staying into the country. and i think that's the concern. any time there is a major international incident like we are seeing today how do our adverb sears take advantage of that when you're attention is not along that southern border and else where. what does that mean and what does that mean for individuals
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and contraband coming across that southern border. absolutely i'm concerned about that. >> ainsley: we saw it and you worked for president trump. we saw him fight back against other countries that were threatening us or trying to threaten us. when you see vladimir putin threaten our country or threaten our western allies yesterday by saying we're going to come for you if you try to mess with us, there will be consequences, we're going to see our current president, president biden speak today at noon. what should he say? does he fight back? does he punch him back? >> well, i would say almost at this point it matters little what is said, unfortunately. again, this should have been continued engagement from day one of this administration. i it think we saw that with president trump where he talked to adversaries whether it was putin or china or north korea. you don't have to like them. you have to engage them. you need to ensure that they understand your intentions and what you are capable of. we have heard a lot of talk about president trump not --
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people into the understanding or knowing what he might or might not do. and i actually think that is a strength. i think, you know, putin knows exactly what president biden is going to do. is he going to talk about more sanctions and is he going to talk about more sanctions. and so i think that's the concern is we are not being nimble enough and we are not showing that strength both here at home as well as overseas. >> steve: all right, thank you very much for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> pete: being entirely predictable adversary long and short-term timeline. >> >> ainsley: they have a treasure map and know where it is. >> steve: speaking of predicting it was 10 years ago in the presidential debate mitt romney and barack obama and the question was what's the biggest geopolitical foe and mitt romney said it's russia. and barack obama scoffed at that hey mitt, the 1980s are
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calling for their foreign policy back. mitt romney was right. and i read something this morning that cnn is even saying mitt romney was right. had we paid attention to mitt romney 10 years ago, would we be where. >> ainsley: president trump said we pay the most. it's more than 4 hers into nato. germany pays 1%. why are we going to help when germany is giving their money to russia. and he was right. >> pete: you talk about unpredictability or strength. word but someone like vladimir putin is looking around at the action of countries. all you have to say under the trump administration when vladimir putin didn't invade anybody is kassem tsunami or the destruction of isis or moab we dropped or ago baghdadi or russians in syria. little rocket man who he met with you about met -- joe biden said two years ago he is going to meet vladimir putin toe to toe. well, what happens today when
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will we hear from him a lot about what it means. >> ainsley: vladimir putin is sentencing on his toe. many. >> steve: the thing about donald trump is he never revealed all the cards that he had in his enwhereas biden has made it clear for a very long timing. no person troops will be involved in this. >> listen nobody's american troops. hey, look at my hand. these are the cards i'm going to be playing because that's where we are. >> pete: remember former president trump saying we will see what happens. to a foreign leader says who knows what could happen which makes you think twice. right now that's not happening. while the world is watching as russia shatters peace in europe. joe biden will speak to fellow g-7 leaders from the white house this morning. that is where we find gillian turner. gillian, good morning, what do we expect to hear from our allies in this would they want the white house to be morph aggressive or are they tend to think the sanctions are the way
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to go? >> most of the european allies are on board with the sanctions. no one is that keen in terms of putting troops in the ground inside ukraine as is the president. so far pete to recap in the last few hours. the president has now put out a statement condemning russia's full scale invasion overnight. he has spoken by phone to president zelsz. he has also promised zelenskyy is he going to rally all of america's allies to counter putin's aggression. the key here though, according to the white house, is that they are not making any moves without backing from the g-7 leaders. as you mentioned biden is going to have a meeting with g-7 leaders later this morning in a couple of hours. is he going to bring hills secretary of state and treasury aalong women h sanctions are keyed up. will leaders from european union, japan, germany u.k. and u.s. have imposed new sanctions. pretty painful costs so far putin and inner circle cutting them off for international bank
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accountsenned a international fudging listen to the president on tuesday. >> i'm going to twin to inel pose saxes support shall what our inel plement the in 2014. if russia goes further with this invasion, we stand heaped to go forward arrests if sanctions. >> now so foorp hind has tee kind to take any strategic offer moves when it comes to countering putin he has chon this approach of responding with tit-for-tat moves. interestingry. pete, putin himself has said publicly that he is not planning to occupy ukraine. i mean, if you believe that then up guess i'm santa close. is is stifs steve it sounds as
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thousands of people are leaving the city like kyiv and going west to poland or slovakia. i'm reading that apparently thousands of people are already queuing up to go into poland which is to the west of ukraine. is the polish government, have they put out word hey, yeah,if you want to be a refugee here, the door is open? >> gillian: yeah, those countries are welcoming refugees from ukraine this hour. they are hoping to keep the situation under control so far there is has not really been a mass scale exodus out of ukraine which we would have expected to see. a lot of ukrainians are staying put. they are gearing up to fight this fight to take on putin. more importantly to defend their families and their homeland. i will say say also, steve, last night excuse me yesterday, tony blinken essentially said gloms with russia is officially dead. but it's interesting to see the white house really doubling down on these kind of meetings with the g-7 today as the very first
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response to russian aggression. it sounds like diplomacy is in fact still alive and well or at least they are hoping. so. >> steve: at least the g-7 has got to be united and that's the key. gillian, thank you very much. >> ainsley: thank you. let's bring in maslansky and part partners lee carter. >> good morning. gait to see you guys. >> ainsley: the president will be speaking today around lunchtime. maybe he will impose more sanctions, people are saying, some critics it's too little too late, what are you making of his messaging and what do you expect from other leaders on the world stage? >> you know, i think it is to many people a too little too late. you think back, we have known that putin is a threat for quite some time. we have been talking about this as a possibility for a while. if you think back press conference in january where biden talked for a long time. it was almost two hours. and he said a few words that i think really triggered some
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concern around the globe and that weighs when he was talking about what we expected to happen he said, quote: it depends on what he, meaning putin does, as to what we are going to be able to get total unity on a nato front. beam were starting to say way is not unified lock and step? it created the opportunity tensions came on think ever since then groundswell of activity leading us to today everyone expected this president and the hope was stabilize under joe biden. we would have better standing in the world when you look around and look at polling right now more than 60% of americans are saying they don't approve of joe biden's hand links of foreign policy and they feel less safe today than they did when he took office. his message has not comforted us al home and it didn't stabilize
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the situation overseas. >> steve: sure. you know, lee, if you asked average american, i don't think 95% of us could find ukraine on a globe we have heard trouble. world reaction is changing. as we show what is going on as the tanks roll in to kyiv from belarus, you know, and the people of ukraine are running for their lives, or they are hiding in the subways or they are queued up for gas and the gas station is running out of gas, americans can identify with that it's like what would happen if somebody came for me? and they get the running for their lives stage and that's where the people of ukraine are right now. >> yeah. one thing about america is would do lo our fry dom. when we see others suffering in this way. we want to rally, we want to help. that's who we're.
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you are seeing a threat to people's democracy, to their freedom, to their livelihood. and it is heart break withing for us to watch. it's something we simply can't stand by. we want to hear strength in this and how we are going to help it's not that we are going to send troops. a lot of people are saying how can we allow this to snap we knew this is something we have been talking about for years oven thinkable this has happened under our watch. >> pete: based on your polling and understanding of how average american voters view decisions that remember leaders make. do you get the sense that sanctions and the incremental ratcheting up of sanctions as it pertains to ukraine will be viewed as sufficient by voters? afghanistan was one thing but, you know, half a world away sanctions is it something that really is top of mind for voters? >> i don't think so. i mean, sanctions just aren't going to be painful for russia.
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>> they are going to be what the impact is going to be on the average american, we are going to feel it across a number of different factors. if you think about russia, they export 1% of the world's croyle. that means oil prices are going to go up. people are speculating right now we are going to have well over $4 a gallon. wheat and other agricultural supplies of the global food supply. see prices go up in the grocery store. when you think about the critical metals that are produced. russia produced just under half of played yum? it actually impacts semi conducted tores and mike co-chips this is something people thought we would be prepared for well in advance.
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9 out of 10 americans are feeling the pain of inflation already. promising get worse. not to mention what's going to happen to the stock market. >> ainsley: whether it comes to polling, how will president biden's polls will it go up or down. >> i believe he is going to continue to go down right now. i don't think there is any question about it. >> steve: was that a win? >> pete: yeah, if the goal, lee, as articulated from the program was deterrent and deterrence doesn't happen, i don't know how. >> steve: neither did diplomacy neither did any of that stuff. lee carter we thank you very much. >> thank you, lee. >> of course, thank you. >> steve: all right. well, you know as of yesterday >> steve: europe was peaceful. 24 hours later, not so much. air raid sirens ringing out in ukraine. benjamin hall is live at the state department in washington as the world responds to mr. putin's war and benjamin,
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yous i think i read the united nations secretary general said i really didn't think he was going to invade. i was wrong. we saw this was going to happen and behaved in regards as if it wasn't. here at the state department some people have seens that a failure of diplomacy. we have watched and traveled with secretary blinken last few months shuttled back and forth meeting allies and russian foreign minister lavrov offering the carrot and the stick. none of it seemed to work. not clear now what will stop putin. nevertheless, today we are going to see a lot of attempts as they continue to try to find ways the u.s. and eu announcing harsh new sanctions again it doesn't appear as if those are deterring putin much in the same way the last minute plea at the u.n. did not deter putin. >> we are here for one reason and one reason only.
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to ask russia to stop. return to your borders. send your troops and your tanks and your planes back to their barracks and hangers. and send your diplomats to the negotiating table back away from the brink before it is too late. >> secretary blinken tweeted today secretary of defense and i spoke with jen salten berg the chief of nato discuss the alliances coordinated response. we are united in responding to russia and strengthening nato's eastern flank. and boris johnson today tweeting this: i am appalled by the who are risk events in ukraine and i have spoken to president zelenskyy to discuss next steps. president putin has chosen a path of blood shed and destruction. the u.k. and allies will respond decisively. again we are seeing china today refusing still to criticize russia's invasion.
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calling it interplay of complex factors the move impact of sanctions on russia. just a few days ago they signed a deal to buy 100 million tons of russian coal. secretary blinken continues to say that he is committed to the ironclad nato nato 5. four eastern european countries they triggered article 4 which is one step below article 5. that means they feel threatened that could lead to coordinated action, too. still some concern that nato countries could perhaps be be targeted after ukraine. we have to wait and see. a lot of diplomacy emanating from this building here. back to you. >> ainsley: that's why it's shocking. the united states new. about putin's manifest back in july when he said i'm going to do this. and it was ignored. we are wondering who is going to stop him? we have nuclear capabilities, so does the u.k. and so does france, so did many countries in the united nations
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or in nato, excuse me. so, with the information we had months ago. the question is who is going to stop him? >> it just appears fast everything so far has been predicated on the idea that putin is a rationale actor. all these meetings that we h this discussion ongoing and the threat of minor sanctions i think the whole calculus has to change they are not dealing with someone who thinks in the same regard. if you continue dangling sanctions as a threat that's likely not going to work. that is a big question. i don't think anyone has the answer how far is he going to go. >> pete: you are spot on u.n. and g 7 and nato can talk all they want about being united and strongly word statements and sanctions that work in international foreign policy, you know, war gaming scenario but then in comes vladimir putin. are these international institution snoos i mean russia has a seat at the u.n. security council that effectively has a veto over what international bodies can do. some level our response is
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completely at their behest. are they able to think outside the box of their neat little sort of globalist internationalist conventional foreign policy. do you even realize there is just a thug out and there thugs play dirty and there is something we will have to do about it. >> they haven't shown that ability to do so that's exactly what president putin is aware of. he knows there is very little coming down the pipeline other than sanctions. you will could argue when president biden was unequivocally said there will be no military response. i mean, for better or worse i'm not saying there should have been. with taiwan we have this strategic ambiguity. you don't telegraph whether you will or won't. you leave that option on the table. it was taken off the table. that's the only thing vladimir putin might have been considered. he would be hit with sanctions, sanctions alone. has china to back him up with perhaps cushioning those. he is 70 years old. old. it's a chance to cemented his legacy. he will see that the cost of doing that is some sanctions, he is going to give it a go.
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so you are right. these international bodies right now do not seem equipped to deal with the vladimir putin 2.0 as some people are saying, the one that does not seem concerned with this usual rasm myifications of such action. >> steve: today the president has quote to keep the g-7 people together, the nato people together. you are from europe, you know that's true price of gasoline is skyrocketing for a liter of gas right now. >> we heard that natural gas has doubled in i can't remember and it's going to go up even higher. it's a earth that of time until our allies say you know what? we have kind you have had enough of this that we need a gleals that we don't need a loan officer to buy. >> we have said a while europe's dependence on russian gas it's going to be a problem. only in the last nante start you have had looking for ways. had we been looking years ago
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provided more sources which was possible had more time we could have been one step ahead of them. instead waited last minute at the risk of losing. russia still holder the west and might see the cracks appearing as we move forward. >> steve: again, too late. thank you very much for the live report from foggy bottom. >> pete: i will say on a quick nighter note i'm impressed european to shift to leaders. >> steve: that's how you buy it. it looks like a big number. and it's a liter. it's not a gallon. >> ainsley: we learned something this morning. >> pete: we do. still have big questions as well. the big one is this how far will vladimir putin take this as the invasion commences overnight. if you are just tuning in the invasion of ukraine has begun by the soviet military. let's get an answer to that question from fox news senior strategic analyst retired four star general jack keane. general, first of all, waking up this morning, are you at all
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surprised by the scope and scale of whether a vladimir putin appears to have undertaken? >> yeah, well i started to become surprised by it, you know, days ago when it became obvious he was selecting the most aggressive operation to take over ukraine. in a sense, i mean, he is showcasing his military and his professionalism in a way the united states did during dessert storm. he has selected the regime change option with hundreds of preassault fire targets, multiple axis of advance coming into the country. near sign mull takennous attack. the collapse of regime as quickly as possible. and i think, pete, look it, when he went into georgia, it's well-documented that he -- that his military had lots of problems. it exposed more warts there there were positive things as a
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result of it. even in 2014, he annexed crimea and there was really no fighting there. and then he went into eastern ukraine and then the lessons learned, they indicate that they relied too much on hybrid warfare and unconventional forces and they weren't able to take all the objectives that they had in mind and they should have relied more on conventional forces that certainly is the case that we are seeing here. what putin has done, he has taken about 60% of his military and professionalized it. it doesn't have much con scripts in it. and they are well equipped disciplined. i have been looking at them closely as they are moving around. they seem young and afferents. march discipline is very good as they're move in convoys and vehicles. this a professionalized military he is sending a message in terms of the capability that certainly he has achieved here. i think, pete, the strategic objective, what is driving him
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is really important and that's simply in my words, he has his own words of doing it expressing it. pretty much the same. and that is i mean he is reconstructing the post cold war boundaries in europe. he really wants to take away nato's dominance and alter the balance of power in europe. that's strategically what this is about. and when you consider and you pointed this out not just ukraine, which he is going to occupy and install a new government here, but also belarus is in his orbit and this is very significant what has taken place his political objective here is real simple that is install a new government. that will happen. >> pete: he mentioned in a statement overnight he said we are not interested -- at the same time our plans do not
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include the occupation of ukrainian territories. i'm interested because you mentioned in this sense he is doing it more conventionally. would that mean the decapitation installation of a punishment government maybe not a full military occupation some limited. some have suggested and i mentioned your thoughts on this. attempting to occupy ukraine with the russian army could become arduous tank and one that would begin to look not very successful for vladimir putin. how does he balance that? >> there is only risk here for putin. and that's one of themou are putting your finger on. yeah, he intends to install a government that is made up of ukrainians that are friendly to him. he probably has in mind the model he had here once before on the he was a russian stooge in a sense refusing to look to the west. refusing to look towards nato. refusing to look towards the prosperity that could be offered to the people as a result of it.
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and, guess what in the people threw him out. and that is -- that's another issue here that provides risk for putin. and i think from the beginning going all the way back to 2014, he has under estimated the ukrainian people. you know, when he put those troops in eastern ukraine, and left them there, the so-called separatists i brought russian troops in and out thereof all the time over the last 8 years. he really expected that the -- because of the threat of further invasion, that the people and the government would -- even though it was anti-russian government that was in there yanocovich. people stiffened their will against wanting to be a are the path the russian orbit and looking to the west for all the obvious reasons.
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open. thriving capitalism. prosperity for their children and advancing way of life. all of those things is what they certainly wanted. and ukrainian people are going to be factor here. the military objective is pretty clear. and this is his operational commanders have been assigned an objective to defeat the ukraine military. a lot of the preassault fires certainly are going at that in terms of military and government targets that are supporting them. also the deployed military in the field. be assigned key terrain on tifsz to seize and hold as part of a military operation. that's routine. and then the last one is they are going to facilitate a regime change. and eventually that -- we will see that unfold you know, before our eyes. he has a lot of options to deal with that i'm sure he has got a set plan in play and how he intends to accomplish that. but he can call audibles in
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relation to that. that's what we see in front of us, certainly the consequences of this for europe, for the world at large because nothing happens in isolation anymore. i mean, obviously as we have said so many times, pete, you know, the result of the afghan debacle it had residual effects, emboldened our adversaries. we have seen it here with this incursion and military full out invasion is more accurate description and this will have that kind of residual imarkts too. and embolden the iranians for sure as they are going forward and want to acquire a nuclear weapon and take the sanction money and fuel. their on tifts in the region. we know what that looks like as a result of the 2015 flawed deal and certainly president xi is looking at while he publicly has not endorsed what putin is doing. he hasn't condemn you had it either. they are talking about
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negotiations and middle of the road approach, but you can bet that he is looking at this and what he sees is weakness in the west and how that can advantage him in terms of his national objectives as well. >> pete: well said. i don't know if you heard what we were talking about with benjamin hall for a moment, general. everything that's been tried so far from the west and the white house hasn't worked the idea was deterrent. he was not deterred. sanctions have been ratcheted up. they haven't been effective. strongly worded rest resolutions and statements from not been effective from u.n. to nato to the g-7. u.n. russia with a seat at the security council. all the international systems put in place to stop something like this from happening have not worked. is the west to include our white house, capable, should he go even further or should things go in a certain direction of wielding what is necessary to justify the infrastructure that exists to defend the west?
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do we have in us to take on a thug should he go even further? >> yeah. i mean, that's a great question, pete, and it gets at the heart of the challenges we have been facing here. and why putin himself sees the opportunity that he has taken here. i mean, he obviously sees the political and social divisions that exist in europe and also in the united states. he also looks at the united states as not just about biden but he looks at the united states in its entirety and he says he looks and says well, they can't even do their own knitting so to speak. we have an open border where thugs and criminals and traffickers are rolling through it. we have a crime wave from this country. and epidemic proportions. they see that -- they roll that up all about american decline, american weakness. >> pete: sure. absolutely. >> yes, there are real issues here, pete, dealing with nato's resolve. they have got to up gun.
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they have got increase percent of defense budget and put real capability in eastern europe. and the united states should not do -- we shouldn't do all the heavy lifting here. this is mostly about them. >> pete: you have done a lot of heavy lifting your window is about to close and we will lose you. we have to leave you there. thank you for your insight. we appreciate it. >> steve: exactly 15 minutes now before the top of the hour. fox news alert. dozens of ukrainians, at least dozens are dead. dozens that we know of as russia launches all-out invasion in ukraine. putin now threatening anybody who intervenes with the brutal attack next g.p.s. served in moscow as station chief. dan hoffman joins us now. dan, i remember you and i spent time together overseas when president trump was meeting with president putin and i love picking your brain about it because you know the region so well and you are so brilliant. we knew that this was going to
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happen. vladimir putin warned us about this back in july. if not sooner the georgian president has described how he tried to warn the rest about russia and nuclear capabilities. what do you say? what's your reaction? >> >> my reaction this morning is just this is an utter failure of u.s. strategy and it extends way, way past july of last year. look, vladimir putin began his tenure as president by conducting a war against chechnya. he fought a war against georgia in 2008. he invaded ukraine in 2014. and he engaged in russian military in syria on behalf of iranian ally and his ally bashar al-assad. he has won all those wars. there is a element of uberous here for vladimir putin. he thinks he can win this one as well. is he willing to take the risk to spill a lot of blood and a lot of russian treasure to do it
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because he considers ukraine to be such an existential threat. as we have all noted, we knew this was coming. not just for the past six months but for years. when russia invaded ukraine in 2014 and we failed utterly failed to put in place the kind of deterrence that we would need. punitive economic measures not enough. got to have strong diplomacy and military as well. not u.s. boots on the ground but we never gave ukraine the kind of military support they needed to withstand this russian invasion. the tragedy today is what we face and the biden administration and future administrations will face the geopolitical consequences. >> steve: because mr. putin made it clear very early on he saw this as his destiny to redraw the lines to restore russia to its former soviet union boundaries and whatnot. what's unique about him, mr. hoffman, is he used to be in your business. you used to be a cia spy guy. he used to be kgb spy guy.
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different skill set. different approach to everything. for instance, yet, explain why he was going to invade do you know what? i am going to denazify ukraine. take us inside the head of a spy trying to rationalize why he is invading. >> yeah. so i spent a lot of my career trying to see the world through vladimir putin's twisted kgb eyes. what i can tell you that is the formative experience of his life. he is a natural purveyor of lies and disinformation and propaganda. and he is going to use a symmetric warfare. special forces, intelligence operations. designed to win battlefield not just on the land, air, and sea but also cyberspace. he has conducted hybrid warfare. but also in the information space. he wants to win the narrative. look, the height of hypocrisy to call the ukrainian nation to
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denazify their president is jewish after all. that's the line that vladimir putin is using right now. the one caution here for me that vladimir putin has got to understand the history it za rumplet s, russia fell apart in the wake of world war i. put a few nails in the coffin of the soviet evil empire. putin must consider ukraine to be such a threat that he is going to take the risk that breast neff took. that's at the heart of this. is seeking to build a democracy with ties to the west and that is an existential threat to vladimir putin because if they get liberty and freedom, that's a clarion call to putin's own population whom he is repressing and denying basic civil rights. >> pete: dan, producers are going to kill me here but i have one question i'm so interested in your background.
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his internal propaganda that nato is surrounding him and he has been encroached upon as a result he needs to go on offense with russia. as we respond more troops in baltic and elsewhere and that becomes part of our response, do we not feed into internal feedback and rationalization for going on the offense. >> we sure do it's a chess match. he knows we have to do it. vladimir putin wants to incite a response from nato. he wants more troops. he wants more missiles on the border. because that lends credibility to his narrative that only he, the kgb strong man can defend russia the besieged fortress with the enemy at the gate. nato defensive alliance and has no interest whatsoever in conducting offensive operations against russia. i can tell you from the listening to the russian news for the past 25 years of my life. the way putin is portraying this is the united states has beefed up military support to the baltics and other countries on russia's border sending military assistance ukraine. that's done to protect our allies but the way putin
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portrays it is entirely different. is he doing it for own regime security so he can stay in power and that has grave consequences. obviously for ukraine but beyond. his war is not just with ukraine. it's with nato and the united states. >> pete: is that something we should factor in as we respond in strength is important and a lot of our guests have talked about that. we have talked about that. how do you respond in a strong way that doesn't incentivize him to go further? >> the way you respond is that the president of the united states gets up on bully pulpit and be so presumptuous say something along the lines i just said. here is why vladimir putin is doing this and this is what we are doing in response. we need to own the narrative. we are not doing that right now. >> steve: let's see what the president says at noon. thank you very much for sharing your expertise. >> all right. >> steve: meanwhile, something we have been waiting to set up and we just got it done. a fox news alert. ukrainians triesing to flee after russia's investigation last night. next guest still in the country
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helping his fellow ukrainian. >> ainsley: his name is slow-mo -- ceo of emergency response organization. it is called ukraine joins us now. we talked to you i think it was yesterday. talked to your wife the week before she evacuated with your kids. tell us what it is like there. you are a resident of ukraine and you are there on the ground. >> basically this morning started hectic. you wake up. you hear the bombs. you don't know what's going on. you have no clue. it's starting. you know it's starting. you have prepared yourself for weeks, you know, already they say every 24 hours it's coming. you wake up at 5:00, 4:00 in the morning and you don't know what's going on. you hear the bombs all over you and you have no clue what to do. people started calling. the whole thing collapsed right away. so we reset your sufficiently so
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fast. don't know what's going on and we prepared, i don't know, i think yesterday we showed you the whole thing that we prepared for evacuation all the buses and everything. and in the real moment, at the right moment, everybody panicked. all the drivers. all the buses they didn't want to come in. they decided that not go in. and we got stuck and right now we are working on really hard to get more people out of that city. i'm not going to mention any cities but where this is happening and people got hurt there. right now everybody is waiting for the next wave. nobody knows where it's going to come from. right i'm right now at some city in the center of the city. i'm going to show you. turn the camera one second. you will see what's next to me in the middle of the city there is a tank right there. and in the middle of the city.
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>> pete: that's a russian tank? >> that's ukrainian tank. no, not russian tank. ukrainian tank and soldiers all over the place. and they just waiting for the next wave. they don't know themselves where it's going to come from. in the meantime we have to deal with so many people people in the hospital and all kind of things. it's just devastating to see that nobody, you know, is sentencing in to stop this madness. >> steve: slow we understand that the president of ukraine is asking ukrainians like yourself to take up arms. if you want a gun, the president will give you a gun to defend ukraine. >> this is what they are saying that's true. but it's very unclear where to pick up this gun. where do you go to get it? because there is chaos all over the place. you walk around, you see the gas station packed with cars. i mean, miles away lines and
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lines and lines of cars waiting to get gas. and grossry stores are starting to empty out. panic is showing real bad they don't know where it's coming from. i will try. i see a lot of soldiers walking around with grenade launchers like those big ones. and this you have to understand is a capital city where people leaving -- when you wake up one morning after years of leaving a pistol and then you have a war on your doorstep, you don't know what to do. we're not talking about israel that unfortunately israel has experience with those kind of things, right? they are not. ukrainian people live their daily lives normally. they don't have -- it's not an expensive life. and nobody knows what to do.
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nothing. >> steve: have you seen destruction? have you seen damage from the missiles overnight? >> i have. yes. >> pete: what kind of targets have you seen as far as? >> so right now what they are doing is only as far as my understanding go from couple of sources that we have it's strictly military targets. no civilians whatsoever. and you know, i have seen speeches all the time this past two or three weeks everything he said he has been doing. he said he is going to go military target and that -- that happened in a way that they didn't know themselves to follow this whatever putin was saying if you follow every word that he says this is what he did. the question right now if he is going to go for civilian target or going to stay on the military
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then is going to go in and take whatever, you know, take the whole thing and start controlling this place. nobody knows. >> pete: you had a convoy of buses and otherwise that you were planning to help evacuate people. >> right. >> pete: then a full scale invasion happened overnight and that effectively didn't happen. >> steve: the drivers sphreexd out. >> pete: that's right. >> the drivers ran off. >> pete: there is shooting war outside your window what do you and other people like you do you do stay attempt to flee on your own or take up arms? >> i'm here until the last person person getting out. get out and then i will get out. now, what we are doing right now. we are trying to actually make some kind of a cooperation with the israeli embassy to help us to get some buses and drivers. and if not, i have a plan b which i'm going to buy a few buses and get drivers and get the people out.
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and this is the only way i'm talking about right now this is getting hectic because people in the city there is a lot of going around and starting to, you know, create chaos. and this is very likely to create more chaos in people's life because they are more scared of -- things like this than the army. you know, when someone comes to you in a uniform, you think there is a little bit of hiewnt in them. but when somebody comes to you without no kind of identity, you don't know where it's going to come from. and this is what is going on right now in ukraine. people are starting to lose it. nobody knows what's going on. >> ainsley: there have been calls for your president zelenskyy to leave because people fear if putin gets his hand on him they fear the worse. how do the residents feel about that we were having this conversation do you feel like
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that's the captain abandoning ship or do you support that? and then the second thing putin says he wants to come into ukraine to denazify ukraine. zelenskyy is jewish. many of the people there are judicial. how do you feel about that as well? >> look, we are a nongovernmental humanitarian organization. i don't take political positions. i try to stay away from politics but what i hear from people is that they are very upset with this whole management of the situation. whatever zelenskyy did, everybody says that it was not right because he cannot take defies one of the biggest arms in the world with nothing. you just don't step into the water if you don't know how to swim. it's very simple. so right now a lot of people are getting upset. they walk out. but, you know, you never know what's going to happen. what's going to be the next thing. but i think it's going to be over in the next couple of days, hopefully. god willing.
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and you know, and it's going to be russian dominate country in a way. >> steve: it looks like it's heading that way. thank you very much for giving us the street view. >> i want to add another word. >> steve: yes. >> >> i would like to people to come into our website and support us. it's very important we doing a lot of work here. it's very >> put whatever could fit in
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their car and they are trying to escape to find some resemblance of freedom. you see this young man, who left his family, sent his kids and his wife, they are young in their 20s, to another country to be safe and he's staying until the last person leaves. he committed until that person leaves, he will stay. >> pete: why didn't zelenskyy do more to prepare the poppation. >> steve: he feels it will be two or three-day war and russian will be in charge. it is 3:00 in ukraine. this is hour three. >> pete: fox news alert, earlier air-raid sirens warning ukraine of incoming missiles. >> russian troops are gaining ground, dozens are already dead. >> pete: brand-new images just coming in of the aftermath.
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we begin with steve harrigan live in kyiv. steve, good morning. for viewers that were not up earlier, a few hours ago, there have been air strikes occurring near you that we've seen you physically react to on the air, talk about the situation this morning with the invasion underway. >> been at least 20 explosions in the capital in kyiv. we suspect military targets and military intelligence, command and control centers. we have not heard reports of mass casualties in the capital. it is enough to scare people. people are throwing what they can in their car and getting out. it has been tough mentally to realize this could happen and the government was saying there will be no wide are war.
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that changed dramatically about an hour before dawn today, when the first explosion hit in a series of four or five for the next three or four hours, every couple hours, more explosions, sounds like thunder in the distance. it is a cloudy day today. explosions, air raids, sirens got people on the move after weeks of thinking it couldn't happen, they are trying to get out and having a tough time getting out. trying to head west toward poland, a lot of people don't have the means to get out, they are staying in their homes in the basement or in the subway. martial law has been declared and they are telling people to stay off the streets. steve. >> steve: they are, steve, we have seen this movie before, they started hitting various locations around ukraine at 3:30 in the morning, the first wave. been relative quiet during the
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daylight hours. the next phase is they are coming for the president and they'll have to do that with tanks and troops and they are heading your way. do people know that? >> steve: i think people know that among ukrainian officials certainly, it is a scary thought. imagine this young president, newcomer to politics, a famous comedian, television star and now look at his situation, he's got to stand tall against the russian army and invasion, u.s. intelligence said they have a list, russian have a list of ukrainian politicians they want to capture or kill. certainly volodymyr zelenskyy is tops on the list. how do they get him if he's in the capitol? pull tanks in here or stop on the outside and try to come in and get him? there are a lot of people who will try to stop that from happening in this city of three
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million. how does that play out? do forces come in? especially when think about it, the president announced several times, we'll give anyone a weapon who wants a weapon, who is willing to fight. it is not just the military, everybody is going to have a shotgun here when they try to come in and get the president. so you can imagine what is going to happen, steve. >> steve: steve issue the images when you showed the cars bumper to bumper trying to get out of kyiv, are they leaving with the mindset we're never coming back, packing everything in case we can't come back? >> steve: i think it is just day-by-day at this point, i think it is immediate, it is my god, stuff is exploding, air raid sirens are going off, i'm scared, let's run. run as far as we can, if we have to sleep in our car, whatever, let's get across this border and save our family. >> steve: exactly right. that is what people are doing.
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steve, thank you. >> ainsley: cannot imagine. >> steve: they are running for their lives, jennifer griffin live from the pentagon. jennifer, we know we haven't seen the pentagon do much, there are no troops involved. about the sanctions have not worked. are the people at the pentagon frustrated u.s. response has not been different? >> nato and the u.s. will not go to war over ukraine, their goal is to contain this and keep this from spilling over into an article five nation. you talk about how the sanctions haven't worked, i don't know we can say that yet. overnight, the stock market in russia fell by half, 50%, this is just the beginning of what is being described as a shock and
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awe, if you will, of rolling sanctions that have not even begun to be felt yet by putin, by his oligarchs and cronies there. the pentagon, i do not expect to hear from them publicly, they do not want to be seen as being in war with russia right now. they will be quiet and keep us informed about what they are seeing, what will happen, this will move to nato to the secretary general, who called the atlantic council. you can expect will nato and atlantic council call up 40,000 nato ready forces which fall under command of american general named general todd walters, head of european command, are they going to do that, place them in the baltic and romania and poland? what is notable in the last few hours and notable to u.s.
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intelligence, vladamir putin, you have to listen to what he's saying, not just talking about ukraine, making cryptic references about poland and lithuania and ties to ukraine those two countries have and what an outrage it was they became catholic and he talks about the orthodox, russian orthodox church. this has people concerned, every move has to be carefully calculated, because you are dealing with nuclear power and you see that vladamir putin, if you listen to president zelenskyy and the former presidents of ukraine comparing him to hitler, vladamir putin is talking about de-nazi-fying ukraine. this is talk we haven't heard in 70 years, this is like 1939 in europe. you can expect this afternoon, general mark milley and janet
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yellen and blinken will be briefing congress, they are going up to the hill and what will be happen nothing coming hours, we hear prime minister of britain and other leaders will be speaking publicly. nato will be trying to show a united front, no signs it is cracking. there is grave realization overnight and since october nato realized what they were dealing with and we've been told for weeks now that u.s. officials, the reason they pulled the embassy out, told americans to leave ukraine, these are dramatic warnings they have been giving over and over, declassifying that intelligence. they expected once this started one to five million refugees could flood into europe, that is why the 82nd airborne is in poland to help the border there to process the people coming across. this has been playing out exactly the way it was laid out
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to us, it is horrifying to watch and there were many people i was talking to in recent weeks who hoped they were wrong, unfortunately, last night we saw the salvos, preassault fire, this is the beginning issue not the end. >> ainsley: i follow you on twitter and your comments about putin in his televised speech announcing threat toward the west was shocking. you gave me the news, you said putin said a couple words for those tempting to intervene, jennifer, what was response of the pentagon or what do you expect the response of the president to be today? >> well, ainsley, this is not surprising, the positions of putin's warships a dozen warships in the black sea, some with targeted cruise missiles
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targeting u.s. positions, naval positions, harry s. truman is in the region. you saw vladamir putin conduct those nuclear strategic exercises last weekend was to send a message to nato, don't get involved, this is our conflict, don't move forward. he's been signalling that, the pentagon is not surprised by that, hearing those stark words, for the rest of the united states, rest of the people of europe should understand how very expansionist and deadly serious putin is. the words, i thought it was notable, vladamir putin taped this message we saw at 6:00 a.m. local time moscow yesterday announcing the invasion, he taped that on monday, february 21st. we had been warning after the
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olympics between february 21 and 23rd this invasion could begin. all of the intelligence has been relatively accurate and been shockingly accurate in terms of putin's next move. what i think is important is it is going to be hard for tanks to move into kyiv with that massive traffic jam. that may be something that the ukrainian people may be hope nothing terms of preventing tanks from getting into the capital city. >> pete: i would pullover for a tank. >> ainsley: if you can. >> steve: yeah, if you can. >> peter: michigan congressman, thank you for being here, you have been watching the coverage, seeing the developments. the invasion is about as widespread and multi-pronged as it could be issue the worst case scenario, your reaction to what we've been so far and what putin
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is doing? >> thank you, we are all hoping the initial efforts would be success envelope deterring vladamir putin, it is clear he felt embolden by the tep ed response from the west and fact he launched full-scale invasion is proof positive he did not see resistance, he was willing to call the west's bluff. now is the time we have to be strong, united and unleash crippling economic and sanctions costs on russia. we can no longer afford to be tep ed or weak-willed here. >> steve: talking about the sanctions, over past 10 years, we've levied 100 sanctions on russia. >> ainsley: what have they done? >> steve: right. they knew this was coming and now calling for tougher nick saban /* sanctions, to the point we've been making the sanctions
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thus far did not deter them. today we're probably going to see big sanctions, big sanctions probably should have come a couple of days ago. >> absolutely, the time to deploy that was to show we were serious to hopefully preempt the military invasion that occurred just near hours ago. we've been unleashing sanctions for a long time, they have been measured and calculated to do minimal economic damage to any of our trading partners or allies in europe, sadly putin has taken advantage of that and noted he can probably continue on and we're not willing to go the length or undertake the cost of anything that may have -- may offer pain to our allies, but frankly the economic cost pale in comparison to what destabilized europe will cost in europe and around the world and to us at home. we're seeing oil prices rise, the stock market beginning to go south, this will have devastateing and long-term
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impacts, if we don't force putin to stand down. >> ainsley: i am curious what role congress will have on the committees in this situation and what do you expect the president to say today when he talks at noon? >> peter: we hope the president will put out sanctions we've been called for a long time. we put out the act that was effort to bolster the regime and looking at sanctions being introduced this week against members of the russian legislature that rubber stamp third degree invasion, i hope the invasion recognizes this is time for strength, moment of diplomacy we could be taking half steps and half measures has gone out the window just as russian bombers were flying across ukraine, we have dozens, if not hundreds killed before the number dproes into thousands, we need to show we
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mean business. >> pete: you are part of a group of lawmakers who sent a letter to biden urging him to get congressional approval before involving u.s. troop necessary ukraine. i presume you would not expect joe biden to talk about that today, but your point is, if this were to escalate, this is not a role for u.s. troops? >> precisely and very dig difference between involvement of american soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen, a very big difference between us becoming military involved. article one of the constitution gives power to declare war, power to send troops into harm's way in the congress and the president cannot do that unilaterally, we sent that letter to remind him of that fact and reminding him there are other tools to make sure this wanton aggression does not go unanswered. >> steve: congressman, apparently choppers seized an airbase near kyiv, russian have
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taken a power plant. swoop on the capitol and launch invasion from north, south and east. cruise missiles hitting the airports and tanks rolling in. obviously it is to decapitate this government, install a putin puppet, that means the current president, they will not let him stay in power obviously, he wants to be a free country and putin wants somebody he can control. the big question now is what happens to the president and does he run, does he stay and fight? it sounds like he is going to stay and fight. he made it clear, we're going to arm the people. if they want ukraine, they have to get it over my dead body. >> no, i think we should be keeping president zelenskyy in our prayers, what you have stated just the severity, enorm ity putin has perpetrated here,
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it should not be that difficult given overwhelming numbers for russian forces to seize ukraine, whether they can hold it and deal with the insurgency that will follow, whether the troops they have to keep there to maintain security, whether that may lead to destabilization back in russia, those are questions putin will have to answer. for now, president zelenskyy is somebody we should be doing everything in our power to support and to help as they keep fighting against this egregious invasion and wanton aggression we've seen. >> steve: amen. thank you. >> peter: thank you for being here. >> ainsley: thanks, congressman. >> peter: another fox news alert, russia launches full-on invasion, putin threatening anyone who intervenes with brutal attack. >> ainsley: charlie hurt is here to react, good morning, charlie.
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>> good morning guys. >> ainsley: what is your reaction to everything we are waking up to this morning? >> it is all pretty surreal, we've been hearing about this for the last couple of months. regular americans look at this and it seems millions of miles away and the primary reason for that is that despite the talk we've heard from biden about this and the bluffing he's been doing about all of this, he has failed to make the argument to the american people why this is of vital national security interest to the united states of america and that is why, and maybe perhaps one silver lining is that nobody at the moment is talking about putting u.s. troops issue boots on the ground over in ukraine and it is exactly because the president and administration failed to make the case that this is vital u.s. national security interest.
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>> couple of days ago at the end of press availability, our white house correspondent asked the president, did you underestimate vladamir putin and joe biden from the press reports gritted his teeth and said, you know issue the press is always on target or off topic and asked people on the virtual zoom he was conducting including governor gavin newsom, did you underestimate, gavin newsom, did you underestimate mr. putin, he was saying to everybody there. clearly our president did underestimate the president of russia. >> absolutely. we're now sitting in a situation where the president is out of bluffs. he's been bluffing, he's out of bluffs now. he's been talking about sanctions, bottom line remains and big problem with his effort to get regular americans on the
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same page as him with all this is that condescending attitude he's had toward questions, people saying what is our vital interest here. and it is a, there is a reason this did not happen under the trump administration and there is a reason that the last time that putin invaded ukraine was it is last time joe biden was in the white house. that tells you all you need to know about the current state right now. >> peter: you are right. not made the case and as a result, most americans are more concerned about the southern border than the border of russia and ukraine. there is absolutely no doubt there will be an economic impact to everyday americans on top of supply chain issues, on top of domestically created inflation issues that are going to hit people. whether or not it matters to us, we'll feel it at some level.
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>> the white house disdain about interest in ukraine extends far beyond that to questions about the economy inflation, supply chain, gas prices, all the issues that southern border and wide open southern border that we don't want, we're not worried about integrity of that, questions get short tripped watching jen psaki answer those questions about people genuinely hurting and it is not just crazy white wing republican voters, we're talking about voters of every stripe, democratic voters, people who voted for joe biden suffering horribly under this economy and with this inflation and with gas prices and all of this is only going to get worse and for what? based on something that again, joe biden has failed to explain in any rationale, normal way why it is vital national interest to
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united states of america, to those paying the bills. >> ainsley: charlie, you went down the list, you and pete did, inflation and supply chain, immigration, now add this to the list, so one after another impacted our pocketbooks and now we have this. expecting gas prices to go up. stewart varney said up to 50 cents more soon, i think the average is $3.50. >> gas prices go up, it hurts us, who does it help? vladamir putin. he benefits from higher gas prices. every single issue we're talking about is made worse by this situation. when you have inaround the world and have this going on, what does that mean to southern border? more people fleeing to the southern border and fleeing across our border because they know it is wide open because this administration doesn't care
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about things like our borders. >> steve: charlie, you mentioned last time joe biden was in the white house, talking about an hour and 20 minutes ago, in 2012, mitt romney versus barack obama, he says russia obama scoffed at them about bringing foreign policy back. mitt romney was right. >> absolutely, and that silly ridiculous glib ness you get from president obama and president biden, somebody like vladamir putin looks at this and just laughs. vladamir putin is guy who stole nfl owner bob kraft's super bowl ring off his hand in a meeting and now going toe to toe with joe biden and joe biden has no
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idea what he's dealing with here. the other huge massive problem is that all of this is pushing vladamir putin into the arms of what is truly our greatest enemy and that is china. as long as xi jinping and vladamir putin are forced in this awkward alliance that they shouldn't necessarily be in, except that the united states of america, joe biden and other european powers are making that bed fellows possible, we are going to be living with consequences of this for decades, this weakness for decades. >> steve: it's a new cold war and game on. thank you very much. >> ainsley: thank you. >> peter: brand-new perspective with what is go og in ukraine, mike joins us now from lviv.
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mike, tell us what you are seeing, we are seeing images on the screen of previous explosions and plumes of smoke, what are you seeing? >> mike: well, what we're really seeing is russian military doing everything you would expect and invading military to do. they are trying to eliminate the ability of ukrainians to fight back, they are hitting airstrips and air defenses and strike at military intelligence facility there. they have been hit with 30 caliber cruise missions and artillery and russian army is advancing from every side except west. reports that ukrainian defenses have been neutralized and that is where we get into conflict with madia relations. here in lviv, we found veterans volunteering to fight again and
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population that vows to resist. >> it had to happen because putin totally went crazy. y me, as patriot of ukraine, i'm going to sign up for duty. >> fight with whatever we have, we don't have any other choice, this is our land. >> the national police are now handing out weapons to veterans here in lviv and other towns across ukraine, creating dynamic, we could see fighting go street-to-street in the events the russian army makes it this far. >> ainsley: it looks like a normal day behind you compared to kyiv where everyone is trying to evacuate. >> you do really have the appearance of business as usual here in lviv, the purpose has changed. you had a lot of people up to this point wanted to express hopeful belief it wasn't going to happen or materialize.
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i start seeing people say, there is relief because the mask is off, they woke up in the middle of the night to reality their country was being invaded and we heard today their vow they will fight. it is one thing to have the crimea peninsula taken and another to fight for your home. this isn't 2014, this is different situation, they have help from nato states and other people contributed with other countrys with weapons and resolve is different than 2014, russian promised, ukrainians promise will not have an easy time taking over the country. >> peter: right tchlts does look like a normal day, our report is lviv has seen air strikes, so far vladamir putin has targeted it appears critical infrastructure and military targets, military installations for civilians for now, they feel like they r out of the cross
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hairs? >> you know, you hear reports so far of civilian injuries. there was report of a child injured down to the south of the country and it is impossible to confirm the information that comes at you so fast and furious right now. reports we have are in the dozens at this point, this is fresh and all needs to be confirmed and we see usually with start of a war, numbers will change rather rapidly. thus far it seems like everything is strategic target thus far, you are generally going to have collateral damage, we can't pinpoint it at this stage. steekt steekt /* steeks >> steve: we've heard they capped the amount you can take out of atm at $3000 or talk to a cashier, you can only take $3000
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out. people want as much as they can before they leave there have been cyber attacks on the banks and other major institutions in ukraine, presumably from the russians trying to stop business from the inside out. >> and frankly before the invasion started, we anticipated cyber attacks would be crippling. as people walk around in lviv, one thing i notice, people with their phones fully functioning, are huddling together and looking at reports and comparing notes. as far as banks, lines are piling up with people getting out as much cash as they can. it should be noted local company is trading by the minute, trading near $30 to the dollar. >> steve: very good, thank you very much. >> peter: it has been interesting this morning, we get a chance to hear from a
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ukrainian in ukraine, a resident, slomo. yesterday we spoke to him, he had a fleet of buses. >> steve: i'm waiting, anybody want to ride out of town? let's go. >> peter: we have a plan to evacuate people who want to evacuate. this morning, none of the drivers wanted to show up. the military is coming down and the entire plan broke down. he's still there, he was on a street corner, showed us a picture, turned the camera around and showed pictures of a ukrainian tank prepared to fight in the streets. he talked about the scene, a lot of confusion, resentment. here is the ukrainian resident talking about that. >> everybody is waiting for the next wave. nobody knows where it will come from. i'm in the center of the city and i can show you, i'm going to
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turn the camera for one second and you will see in the middle of the city, a tank right there. that is ukrainian tank and soldiers all over the place waiting for the next wave. we have to deal with so many people in the hospital and all kind of things and it is devastating to see nobody is stepping in to stop this madness. >> steve: he told us that he thinks the war will last two or three days and the russians will take over and then things will get back to normal. but he is still in the, on a corner trying to evacuate as many people as possible, the other bus drivers we showed yesterday, because they freaked out, they have buses with them. he said, if i have to, i will buy more buses to get people out frchlt what we've read and seen, go to foxnews.com, so you are up
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to date. sounds like thousands are heading to poland because poland said, if you are a refugee, we will take you in and give you something to eat to figure out what happens in your country and when it is safe to go home, if it is safe to go home. >> ainsley: we interviewed his wife last week and she took three kids and went to israel at that point. i understand she's maybe in a different country now. we interviewed him tuesday, he said it was the foreigners that lived in ukraine that were really scared and they were the ones leaving. he said, most residents, we have been used to this since 2014, if not before, we just kind of ignored it, he didn't, many residents did. this morning, it is a different story. steve harrigan has been there everyday and he says they are not as worried and then you saw
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the change. >> steve: they were in denial. >> ainsley: they were, but some critics are upset with government for not explaining how dire it was, but is the government supposed to do that? you want them to be honest, you don't want this, everyone to flee. >> peter: you don't want this, what slomo described earlier on the show, listen. >> there is chaos all over the place, you walk around and see the gas station packed with cars. i mean, miles away, lines and lines and lines of cars waiting to get gas and grocery stores are starting to empty out, the panic is shown. people are starting to panic real bad and don't know where it is coming from, it is capital city where people are living peacefully in a way, right? when you wake up one morning after years and years of living
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a peaceful life and you have war on your doorstep, you don't know what to do. >> steve: you don't know what to do when war breaks out at 3:30 in the morning. in the capital city of kyiv, people on the street, they have been told, there is martial law, stay off the street. then you see people with a suitcase, perhaps they don't have a car, they will go to the car station or have grocery bags from the grocery, there is run on cash and gas and groceries, as well. they need enough food to ride out the war and how long will the war be? >> peter: yeah, if you are not prepared, it reduces -- that invading forces if you are not prepared. you could hear consternation in his voice.
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>> ainsley: steve harrigan talked about the man on the street, what is to your right, why are you looking that way? he said, i see an old man with a cane walking down the street. he can't leave or refuses to leave. >> steve: people can't hear from president zelenskyy, overnight russia took out ability of the president to communicate. will we hear from mr. zelenskyy today? i hope so. >> ainsley: putin launched on the ground, is there cyber threat to the united states? ask former security advisor mcfarland next. eed, and we gotta do it fast. [limu emu squawks] woo! new personal record, limu! only pay for what you need. (vo) liberty, liberty, what makes my heart beat?
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and guided missiles from positions the russian military has around the state of ukraine. we've been breaking it down and will continue to. we want to give you a look at the maps. this is a couple of months ago, the russian military was gathering, we knew they were thchlts is contested region, donetsk. there was speculation that might be the only area he was looking to invade. you saw forces first in the north and down in crimea, when he seized in 2014, there was indication he may be looking for more. fast-forward to a couple days ago and what his troop formations look like, they had amassed in belarus, belarus is client state of russia. belarus used military exercise to preposition forces there. they added more troops down south and a blockade to the
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black sea, became clear there were more ambitions or capabilities for fighting since 2014. yes, steve, go ahead. >> steve: pete, the thing is russia said, we're doing all this because it is military exercise. it is not a military exercise when you have essentially surround an entire country and then you preposition nuclear cruise missiles and put blood at field hospitals because blood you only put at field hospital that will see bloodshed because blood expires after 40 days. >> peter: you are right. there are field hospitals identified satellite aim originry, they were preparing for invasion, they move said troops in and ships in and this
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is what we saw. we saw, this is what we're beginning to see today and we'll get to the next map about the explosion, initial assault. seeing land invasion of entirety of ukraine and air. we have r79s of ukrainian and russian aircraft down, helicopters down. the thought of war very early. what russia's goal was and appears they ark chiefed it with superiority they have, gain control of the skies through the rocket attacks. from now, steve, accurate to say, have been targeted at military installations, command and control communications and getting reports that outside kyiv military air field has been seized by russian helicopters. kyiv is the capital of ukraine. if we can go back to the other map, real quick, yesterday we put this -- this speculative, this could be potential route.
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waking up this morning, these are potential routes including this line we speculated could be belarus flanking maneuver, russia troops used belarus as staging ground to invade from the north, from their own territory in the northeast and east in contested riejion where the ukrainian armies are here and reports of potential amphibious landing across the south, as well, of ukraine. north, east, south and you have helicopter insertion, special forces inserted, whatever vladamir putin wants to do this morning, he appears to have forces capable to do it. >> ainsley: and pete, anyone leaving, we've heard from several, they might go to poland, next to belarus. >> peter: poland, romania, other countries options, those are
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nato countries, put is getting closer and closer to nato countries and would make europe and our own pentagon -- >> ainsley: which is where we moved our embassy from ukraine to poland. zelenskyy reports he is still in the country right now, with seizure of military airfield near kyiv, could be attempt to encircle him and the government in ukraine. >> steve: come on back over here because if he were going to flee and he's going to flee or fight, he would probably fly out of that airport to a western spot to be safe, but if they have the airport and they have one of the main power plants apparently, as well. they control the sky, they control the juice for kyiv. >> peter: there are reports of conventional military clashes,
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reports down in south near crimea, near the second largest city, as well, kharkiv, in poland, there are reports of force-on-force, forces trying to take on the russian military. thus far it appears the advance has not been stopped in any locations. you control the sky and have other air assets, it becomes difficult to defend against. >> ainsley: they got rid of nuclear weapons in 1994, curious why they decided to do that. >> steve: they would like a do-over on that. >> ainsley: especially when russia has those capabilities, not just war on ground, targeting government and banking websites. >> steve: that is right. let's talk about cyber security with the former president trump deputy national security advisor kt mcfarland, who joins us, i believe from cpa c. it is noisy today.
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good morning. >> kt: indeed, i'm on the board of cpa c, a good place to be issue the leading thinkers of conservative republican movement are meeting here next few days, it is opportunity to understand where the ukraine situation is going, the russia situation and how china fits in, good place to be. >> steve: i heard from a number of republicans who said in the last week or two, we need to hit russia with major sanctions before the invasion, but you have got a vast military background having worked in the pentagon for a very long time. do you get why the administration is waiting until after the invasion to hit them where it counts? >> kt: the sanctions will not make a darn bit of difference. russia is prepared, it has a large rainy-day funds.
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say they will not have nord stream 2 operational, pipeline between russia and germany, russia is fine, they will sell that oil to china, probably at higher price. tragedy, vladamir putin is in position to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants with regard to ukraine and part of the reason he is able to do that, coffes are rich and i put that down to joe biden. a year ago, we were energy independent and they were looking to diversify. not anymore. >> ainsley: do you think biden, great opportunity for joe biden to say i'm going to forego this new green new deal and i'm going to open up the keystone pipeline again. will he do it? probably not, this will be a good excuse to tell his base, i
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had to do it. >> kt: you are right. single most important thing president biden can do, forget sanctions, he could go tell the american people, i am reopening the american energy industry. providence has given the greatest stock pile of oil and natural gas. i will open that up. he could go to the germans and europeans and say, i will give you energy security. forget about the russias, then go to the asians, i will supply you with energy, as well. that would take away leverage of russia and china and drive energy prices down and bankrupt russia. they need high revenue from oil where they can't pay for anything else. >> peter: thank you, see you at cpac tomorrow. >> ainsley: what's coming up.
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>> peter: rare moment of bipartisanship, lawmakers on both side condemn the invasion of ukraine, does the u.s. have power to stop russia. check in with bill hemmer. >> bill: great coverage, only one story on the radar we will pick up in a moment. our team is lined up and ready, reporters on the ground in ukraine. military expertise coming up. what is next, military fall out? what will satisfy putin in the end? dana and i will pick up the story top of the hour, see you then, 10 minutes away. ♪
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>> president biden met with the security council and we continue live team coverage from capitol hill as lawmakers react to russia's invasion of ukraine. these were reacting to the video i was seeing. >> russian helicopters over city landscape. what a staggering image. >> chad. >> congress talked for weeks. the goal of passing a sanctions
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bill was an effort to deter and invasion. the sanctions bill never happened and pressure from the white house to let the administration do the dirty work. former vice president mike pence and other republicans claim president biden had the chance to stop this aggression. he cited what happened last summer in afghanistan. >> we're the most powerful economy in the history of the world and to impose sanctions on financial institutions to cut them out of the monetary system where the american dollar is used is literally to cut them out of commerce around the world. >> gop senator mitt romney said the u.s. had a tep yid response to putin's horrors in georgia. he says the 80s called and we did not answer. vladimir putin is threatening should retaliate should the west get involved. lawmakers are looking for a tough response from president biden. >> this is a full scale
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invasion. we have to be strong and it is time for us boldness from biden we've never seen. so hopefully today we'll actually do something real and show strength. >> congress is not in session right now but expect briefings by president biden's national security team for both the house and senate later today. that will be done by telephone. back to you. >> thank you very much. i think some people owe romney an apology. you know who i'm talking about. we'll step aside. we'll be right back.
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is coming up on 4:00 in kyiv. tonight the worry is more missiles or tomorrow men on the street. >> russia is surrounding ukraine. people are trying to flee kyiv right now. cars bumper to bumper. >> ominous scene. stay with fox news for continuing coverage. >> bill: good morning, everybody. 4:00 in the afternoon in kyiv. we're waking up to war in europe. russia launching a than all-out invasion of ukraine. land, air, sea. military takeover with echoes around the world. many questions now. how does the west respond? what will the markets do? what will putin do next? we'll get to all that today. i'm bill hemmer. good morning. >> dana: i'm dana perino. this is "america's newsroom." a lot of those questions. one of the questions answered the markets this morning and we have maria bartiromo. the
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