>> the u.s. issuing new sanctions on russia, but russia is not letting up as we enter the second day of russians invasion of that ukraine. russian troops have now reached the outskirts of the capital of kyiv. good at good morning everyone. continuing life team coverage. it is midnight here in los angeles, ten across and we have team clogs coverage of the attack on ukraine. we are live on the ground in th

capital city. rates edson at the pentagon in kevin corks any bias in washington as we begin with steve harrigan again on the ground in kyiv. >> day two of the russian invasion in ukraine maintains control of its capital. something a lot of people doubted what happen. president zelenskyy remains her in kyiv. he expects to be a target. >> according to our information the enemy marked me as a number one target. my family is the number to target. they want to destroy ukraine politically by destroying the head of state. >> overnight, u.s. official sai they expected the russian force went about 20 miles outside of the capital here. as the day has gone on and the sun has come up, we can hear those forces move closer and closer. the weapons that you here have changed to from missiles earlie on now we are hearing smaller

arms fire. artillery tanks and even fire for the first time so that is moving closer. still a decision to be made or going to be seen how it plays out whether it's in an encirclement of the capital and the city forces it or whether w street street bay street writing . >> i want is quickly because th russian president, the ukrainia president has given another and that russia's attack continues the expectation that our forces will be tired, but no one is tired. is that the send you get? 's list meant to be motivationa for his troops? or is there a sense that these are motivated people and they are willing to stand up. >> i think we have seen displays , displays on video of ukrainian standing and fighting and being killed, so i think a lot of people are ready to die. >> steve harrigan, the best to you on the ground. president biden announcing 7,00

more u.s. service members will head to germany 14,000 american soldiers have been repositioned since the start of this ukraine crisis and while there are nearly 100,000 american soldier stationed across europe, president biden says not one, none will fight in ukraine. life at the pentagon with the very latest. good morning. >> good morning. u.s. defense officials say ther is seeing what steve harrigan and seeing on the ground right here and this is the mission by the russian armed forces to go into the capital of ukraine, decapitate that government and install of pro- russian government in ukraine once again . you have also seen what steve had to play there, the video of president volodymyr zelenskyy speaking from ukraine saying he was on the target list for the russian say he and his family are going to stay there, but also adding that there is a new iron curtain falling in europe

ukraine's foreign minister was in the united states returning back to ukraine coming he spoke with us before he left and was for bleeding with military hardware so his country could defend itself. >> the amount of heavy tanks, armored vehicles, helicopters that russia has in ukraine is unimaginable. we need more assistance to continue fighting. trust me, the world cannot allo russia to prevail in ukraine. if they succeed we will wake up in a completely different world. >> the 7,000 additional troops the biden administration is sending is designed to bolster combined nato forces. officials say these americans are first going to germany, their final destination is unclear. the deployments included an armored brigade and combat team.

the biden a ministrations is no american troops are going to fight in ukraine. ukraine is not a member of nato it's not part of the treaty tha says an attack on one is an attack on albright nato says it's trying to avoid a larger war. >> we are increasing our presence in the eastern part, but what we do his defensive is measured and we don't see confrontation we want to preven the conflict. >> there have been protest to this war across europe and around the world. the russian human rights organization says 1800 people have been detained in antiwar rallies in russia. they're are reports of protest happening in dozens of cities across russia, which also include st. petersburg and moscow. >> i am curious, maybe you don' know this, but what the ukrainian ambassador says they need more weapons, they need more of these javelin missiles

they need some good weapons, th question i wonder and a lot of people wonder is how do you get those weapons into ukraine at this point in time. how would nato arrange that? >> that would be very difficult because anything into ukraine right now involves delivering something either across-the-board or that russia has conceivably come close to o the ground, or through aerospac that the russians have controlled. this is a hot war zone right no and things are moving quickly. it would be a tough ask. >> rich, thank you. joining us is dan davis. colonel davis served two tours in afghanistan now a senior fellow at defense priorities, always great to see you again. the same question to you as i asked him they are, that is the question the ambassadors has se a couple of times a day we need more, we need more weapons we need more fighting tools if we're going to be able to defea the russians. the question i have is how woul

you get those weapons right now into the country into the peopl who need them most when you are surrounded by russian soldiers and even in the black sea you got all these russian ships and there is no nato or u.s. ships to be found? >> it just really underscores the really biggest reason why i have been saying so many times you're on fox even in recent weeks and months, that we shoul have taken the opportunity before the first bullet was fired to come to a negotiated settlement where we recognize the reality that ukraine cannot defend itself effectively from russia and we should have just acknowledge that they'll never be allowed into nato. had we done that, had zelenskyy recognize that nato was never coming to his aid, they should have been willing to negotiate and say were not going to join nato. they didn't do that. which putin was cleared to signal and now there is no one

coming to his aid there is no magic package of weapons and armaments that are going to change what's going on here. it doesn't work that way. combat doesn't work where you throw a bunch of weapons in and under fire and think that's going to have any positive impact on the outcome. it once. i think he's going to be disappointed with both a fact that is going to be nearly impossible to get it in there, but the second issue directly related to that is russia isn't going to sit passively by and allow their enemy under combat to be armed by the west and not doing anything. any action we take right now is a double edge sword that could have repercussions against our troops weather in syria or russian czar or even elsewhere in nato and that is something that has to be taken into consideration. >> i guess is we just said, the big goal is for russia to go in and decapitate the regime and you had president zelenskyy say

he believed he was target numbe one in his family was target number two. if they were successful going i there and getting these people and hurting or killing these people, does that change the mindset at all in your opinion of how nato and the united states views this war? >> you know, let's hope it doesn't come to that. i hope that not he and definitely not his family, that should be off the table. i think you should probably evacuated at this point for their safety, but there is one possible positive side that is coming out both from kyiv and moscow where was recorded to have said that he is willing to discuss neutrality.

of course i argue he should hav done that before, but that is probably the one thing that can still stop this war, sanction and threats from us are going t do it but in response, from moscow said that the russians are willing to discuss that. they are willing to contemplate that if it's a serious offer. i could not more strongly admonish them to do that becaus that is the only thing i say to stop because i don't think no matter what people are saying, his intent is not to capture ukraine, his intent to make sur there is a neutral ukraine border, a buffer between him an nato much more than him controlling nato. if this had resulted in that or whether zelenskyy leaves of his own or whether he changes, that is something they will have to negotiate, but that could stop this before it gets to bloodied. >> except vladimir putin has light at every step of the way and that is a problem to. there is a trust issue to. nobody on any side would trust vladimir putin the other question would be is if they're looking for neutrality in these tanks move in as we expect them to do in the next hour they could be income in 20 minutes,

who knows, what is the set up i your estimation? do they surround the capital, d they sit and wait and does that give vladimir putin the power t say okay, you're surrounded, let's negotiate. >> i think that's almost certainly the case because i believe one of your previous guests a few minutes ago made comment that he didn't think there was enough combat power t completely conquer the entire country, that is certainly true but it's also true that he doesn't have a fraction of the number of troops available to actually conquest a city of 3 million people much less any of the other cities because tha is an incredibly intensive process with inference reports forces. i'm talking hundreds of thousands not just five or 10,000 or even 20 or 30. that is something you can do cross-country, that is somethin you do to attack the ukrainian armed forces in the open and they are effective at that. i think what they can do is surround the city and press for

these negotiations and i expect that's probably what we're goin to see. >> thank you for coming on, we appreciate you, sir. >> always my pressure. >> what is next for russia afte the invasion, does putin have a endgame? the former national could security advisor to vice president cheney. and i guess it really is, it's great question. what is next? in your estimation, what do you think that is? >> i think we're going to wait and see what happens in the 30. what is the russian game plan? how did they take down zelenskyy . there is no doubt their goal is to have a puppet regime in kyiv. putin wants subjugation of ukraine. i think he really does intend t

try to resurrect, reassemble th former russian imperial empire which of course begs the question of what are his ambitions beyond ukraine if in fact he is able to swallow this porcupine and i think our goal has to obviously be to get him bogged down in ukraine so he can't set his sights on the baltics, on georgia, on mulled over a. >> and that is, the question that also comes up is these reports that we are hearing tha we have not independently verified that to some capacity vladimir putin is intimating there might be a point in the coming days where he is willing to listen to may be some type o negotiation. deep believe that or should we stick to the policy of not leaving a single word vladimir putin has to say?

>> i absolutely believe that hooton may be willing to listen he will be listening to whether or not the ukrainians are prepared to accept his terms of surrender, which is essentially saying the distraction of an independent sovereign quasi- democratic government in ukrain and its replacement by a puppet regime is something that was subjugated to the pollutant lens . >> are you surprised the tanks are as close as they are to kyiv ? we know they were 20 miles away according to intelligence sources two hours and 45 minute ago. are you surprised at how swiftl they moved from the region near belarus, down to some 120 miles? >> i'm not surprised as the force has been able to move, i

think the u.s. intelligence has been saying for quite some time that if they go in full force with the full-blown invasion, they can take huge chunks of ukraine including the capital very quickly at a very high cos in human life. i do think there are real questions about the russian battle plan. however the fact that there is some question, how much control they have of airports, how our their logistical lines in terms of troops and supplies, and wha it would take to actually occup the capital city of a major european country. those don't seem to be all in place at this point in time, so i think from a western perspective ukrainian perspective, this is a good thing that the russian generals don't seem to be 10 feet tall i their battle plan or at least bruton himself doesn't seem to be a military genius, not unlik

somebody else that we remember from history, adult hitler who got his generals crazy wisdom o the military decisions that he made that we're fatal for germa troops in many instances. i think we've got to wait and see what the russians are going to do militarily, but even if they make mistakes, i think we have to resign to the fact that at the end of the day, this force is so large, there is suc an overmatched, the russians ar going to grind the ukrainians down and ukraine as i've said, they are in for a long dark night not just today, not just this week, but for months to come. >> you mentioned the airports and i think it's important to touch on that because there wer early reports that russia had control of the airport just outside ukraine in now ukraine claims satan fact every taking control of that. if that's true, we have been

independently verified that, that would be a blow to russia because it would be that ukrainian, their claim is that they destroyed those russian forces, that would be a big hit to russia considering consider he one, losing that airport as base, and to, that would be a screwed up mission on behalf of the russians pointing to exactl what you were saying about the battle plan. >> it would be huge. it's got to be confirmed, but the fact to even contested. i think what putin thought here is that what we've come to know about him, this full-blown engage in is a huge gamble and huge risk. it's not really the vladimir putin we've known, he is in intimidator, he's a thug, he wants to get what he wants through demonstrations of force

by killing the chicken to scare the monkeys. he doesn't want to put all of his power out there and risk great losses, i think he is trying to do this as cheaply as he can, to limit the number of missiles and rockets he's firing . he doesn't want to devastate cities, he wants to eventually own these cities. he thinks sending a few may cause the ukrainians to just throw up their hands, give up, and replace zelenskyy. that is not happening, they are going to resist here. i think he is now thinking oh m gosh, i may have to go in big, they are fighting back. i may lose a lot of people here. he could be having some second thoughts. i think at the end of the day h still going to push through, there is just too much on the line. i don't even think western

sanctions at this point in time can interfere in the short-term with his determination to see that government fall and be replaced by one that is subjugated to bruton enter russia. >> end, all of a sudden the russian popular opinion starts to sway dramatically and that could have an impact on all of this. read to see you as always, than you, sir. >> thank you. >> notorious group in cyber war russian authorities. they break it all down for us next.

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>> welcome back to our ongoing live coverage of the war in ukraine. we will go back to our washington bureau. good morning. >> good morning once again. as you know, americans have bee contending with so much over th past year and a half, especiall economically with soaring energ costs and historically high inflation. the very suggestion today by th president that americans will now have to endure a quote cost for the governments efforts to try to thwart the invasion of ukraine, well that's being met with lots of for road browse.

nevertheless the president did what he could to lay out his vision and with the white house called the toughest sanctions yet. in the hopes of rebuffing the russian leader. >> his actions betray as sinister vision for the future of our world, one where nations take what they want by four spirit it is envisioned that th united states will oppose with every tool of our considerable power. he will test the resolve of the west to see if we stay together and we will. >> test the resolve of the west. it is the west, we're talking about most of the g7 that are all coming together to put together as sanctions package. years with the president said h said the u.s. woodblock assets of large russian banks, impose export controls, also sanction many of the countries oligarchs. the president also pointed out today that the u.s. would be deploying additional forces to

germany and other places eased to bolster nato after the invasion of ukraine which as we like to repeat, because it's an important note, is not actually a member of the defense allianc so we're talking about several, perhaps as 7,000 additional u.s troops to be sent. >> the only thing i'm convinced of is if we don't stop them now he will be emboldened. if we don't move against them now with these significant sanctions, he will be emboldened . >> as for the tik tok of the day , the president began the day with the security council he me virtually with the g7 leaders trying to emphasize the importance of the collective's efforts to hold russia to account for its aligned behavior . in the meantime, if you didn't get a chance to watch it, perhaps you want to check out the fox news coverage of the president in the east room yesterday. he was peppered with questions by reporters about his handling of the crisis.

among the many questions one asked by our peter ducey who wanted to know if the president had in fact underestimated vladimir putin. he had this tweet back on the campaign trail couple of years ago where he said bruton was somehow would be intimidated by him he doesn't want to face him because he's the only guy to to with prudent. peter was getting around to asking about that. also, peter alexander from nbc asked if the president could do more with respect to sanctions why not do because this sort of piecemeal for some tray doesn't seem to make sense give the fact that the u.s. and our international partners waited s long to actually go to a sanctions platform against russia knowing full well that there were warning signs long before now. >> and when asked about that cover the president came out an said these sanctions were never meant to deter any kind of

aggression, which is news to people like his vice president kamala harris and his press secretary jen psaki, and the pentagon spokesperson who said these sanctions were built to deter russia and when the ukrainian president zelenskyy said let's get those sanctions in place, he kept saying no because we want to use those to deter and case russians goes in. now the president is saying, never really were meant as a deterrent. >> shocked a lot of people because they impart, you want t be on the same page with your team. i think the president either misspoke or was less than clear and that's being generous about exactly what those sanctions ar meanare meant to effect change and behavior. it's been argued, not just by members of this ministration bye-bye leaders around the worl that they didn't want to act preemptively, they wanted to se what would happen, div diplomac at chance. the facts are these, if you've

known him in any circumstance o covered him the way i have for more than 20 years and you have you know he's not intimidated b sanctions. this is i think a fair point to share with the audience, if you think about sanctions, you thin about regimes like in iran, north korea, and even russia. they have been able to manage their economy despite heavy-handed sanctions. so the idea that sanctions woul probably need to wait to see if he actually did something didn' make a lot of sense to a lot of people. they felt like if you're going to hit russia, hit them hard, o at the very least, to come together collectively as an international community to say what you're doing is wrong and this administration decided to go against that advice which ha been given by some. >> i think it's a good point because if you look at north korea and iran, they are still functioning. people are starving and many cases, but they if you go to

libya, that was in essence a failed state. that state was about to be a failed state regardless. good information as always very thank you. international hacker group is declaring a cyber war with russian authorities claiming they have been able to at least temporarily take down governmen sites. this as ukrainian banks face cyber attacks and president biden says the u.s. is ready fo any online threat. it's interesting we're getting this news and you have this group anonymous and you wonder how effective this could be against russia and how it might impact this ongoing war in ukraine which is now in day to. >> trays government this is unprecedented, this is really i the first 21st century were eve

there at its being fought in several domains, political economics and now cyberspace. now you have a wildcard like these international groups declaring war on one side or th other and how this affects the calculus or the russian behavio as anyone's guess because we don't know what they will do or whom the russians will blame fo it. they may turn this around and say hey, this was a western attack and then use this as an excuse to raise the temperature with the west so to speak. this could go any number of ways . it makes it very unpredictable and risky for all involved. >> wonder if it's true that russia really does believe that he has the best hacking and the best cyber attack team on the planet and that would maybe embolden him more of this group says we are going to launch an attack on you and cyber warfare and it doesn't pan out it emboldens them even more

potentially. >> cyber warfare is the ultimat in asymmetric warfare in that country with limited resources like north korea for example ca punch its weight and inflict so does russia have a significant cyber warfare capability? you bet it does. in russia it doesn't exist so much of the government level as it does in this gray area where it's kind of sanctioned by the government but kind of isn't where the government knows they do it and only comes down on them under certain circumstances . it's not just russian governmen capabilities with the gr you, it's also these unseen russian groups that operate with the quasi- blessing of the government. do they have the best of the world? i don't know. they're awfully good. of course we have immense resources and we have silicon valley and obviously at the heart of technology. countries like north korea have a cyber worker so it really does it is kind of

a leveler in terms of differential resources between countries. >> these reports, very quickly on your thoughts on the fact that the aspect, we have not confirmed, it might be that there is this belief out there that some countries, that vladimir putin might be in the days ahead willing to at least talk about the neutrality of ukraine. >> i think that the russians ar looking at this from up high benefit point of view. i think he's realized it's probably unlikely, while you know now whether ukraine will join nato or not, but i think h wants to engage in some sort of discussions because the longer this goes on, the risk, as well as the greater cost to the russian people and the russian military. so it's likely that there will be at least some overt attempt

at discussion if for no russians look a little bit more reasonable and palatable as the work to rehabilitate their imag worldwide. always great to have you on. we appreciated. president biden saying u.s. sanctions will be just as devastating as russian bullets, bullets, and tanks, but sanctions and diplomacy but hav been eating liz to vladimir putin right what is next? that is coming up.

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trump always for the heaviest o sanctions and the first thing that they do is roll out the sanctions too, but i think the difference was trump understood what sanctions are for, sanctions don't deter, they don't punish, what sanctions ar really good for is to deny an adversary that use of resources and therefore if you're going t use sanctions as a tool, the sooner you use them, and the more you throw them down, the more useful they are if they'd started months ago, and if they were really heavy sanctions, they might have had some impact on the russians in concert with other things. even at this point, as russian troops are finding a way in kyiv , the u.s. hasn't triggered maximum sanctions and it will take weeks and months for her t have an effect.

i have never in my life seen a government that started with a the strategy that they admit wa going to fail and then they wan credit for leading. >> i was talking to kevin gorg about that earlier how can you for weeks and weeks av sanction are meant to deter and we do no want to implement them until vladimir putin goes in because it wouldn't do any good, no, they are there to deter and the you have the president coming out today and say this had nothing to do with deterring aggression. it did because that's what your administration has been seeing wake after week. >> here is the reality of this. this administration came into office just wanting to park russia and park europe and do nothing. they went around and public saying anything help inns in

ukraine, it's not our problem i then afghanistan was such a tragedy for them, they recogniz they did not do nothing in europe, but they wanted to get away with doing as little as possible so they put the sanctions out there which alway meant to say look, we are doing something so you can't attack u for doing nothing. the threat of sanctions was something they could get the europeans to do, so they are definition of leading is doing the minimum everybody else will accept. that's not leading if you know it actually isn't going to work. to be honest, what they've been doing for months is lying to th american people that they have solution. much like when biden ran for president and he said i will take down covid, i have a plan, they didn't, they added nothing

that actually improve the cover response, so yes, i think the honest answer is they are lying to us. >> and you can go on, the list goes on. i can go toe to toe with putin, i can take down covid, every death you can blame on the leadership, there were a lot more dust on his watch then on president from swatch, you can go down the list on that. i guess the last question would be getting off of the low sanctions thing, you believe, a we get into day to and our pushing towards day three of this war, that there is any diplomacy chance left for or is putin thinking i have a goal an i will not stop until that goal is reached. >> i think weeks ago, i do thin there was a chance to wave him off, but i think weeks ago he made the calculation that nothing the west was going to d was going to affect his decision-making. i think we are way past that

point right now. we have to think about what do we do now to protect the u.s. because the ultimate plan is observed the soviet territories. the end of nato and drive the united states up for that is something the chinese would lov to happen. how how do we stop it, putin ha got a powerful military so if america is energy independent and we don't have strong conventional and strategic deterrent and assist our allies in their part, this is just the first crisis before the next crisis. >> good information. thank you, sir. >> things for having me on. >> let's check in with steve harrigan on the ground for us i kyiv. any sign of those russian tanks? >> no sign of the tanks, but there is sounds of small arms fire that we have heard get closer and closer as this morning has grown. local media is reporting that

russian forces have entered the northern section of the safety. the northern suburbs of kyiv am the minister of defense is advising people to stay in thei homes. house to house fighting is goin on and they say that residents should arm themselves with althoff cocktails and stay in their homes. according to local ukrainian media, russian forces are entering the northern section o the city several miles from where i'm standing right now. >> life for us on the ground thank you. rising concerns about potential nuclear disaster with russian forces taking control of the chernobyl power plants. the worst nuclear accident in history back in 1986? with is now is analysts dr. rebecca grant. it is nice to have you back. was this a strategic move to

take chernobyl or was it just i the way? you're trying to get on the fas track from belarus down into kyiv, did they have to take it or how did they landed? >> my answer is it was in the way and they had to take it right i think taking that about 100 square miles of the chernobyl and closer area was really a tactical operational move. to have armored forces down for that area. remember, they didn't want to let ukrainian resistance fighters get in that area and create a problem. it's what the military calls protecting their line of communication. there is that big sarcophagus built over the reactor that melted down back in 1986. >> while were on the subject of nuclear, the nuclear weapons, the question was asked today if what president putin said

yesterday, right before the war began when he said those who interfere can expect something that they have never seen in th history before and he was asked today did he mean nuclear weapons and president biden so they don't know. if you don't know, if you're unclear by what he meant by that , it truly means that we are in uncharted territory. >> i hate when the president says he doesn't know, that's pretty scary. that meant two different things to me. i think putin was really giving a very direct message about cyber capabilities. remember, biden and his team know that putin has some very evil cyber capabilities. i read that as clearly putin wants to keep that nuclear deterrent threats out there, bu that's what we continue to have nuclear capable forces with our nato allies in europe so

extended nuclear deterrence by the u.s. is in place in europe at. >> i thought that too because h ended it by saying something we haven't seen that history. we have seen that. so the cyber thing is fascinating because it is brand-new. it is warfare in 2022. but isn't enough? you get into that kind of thing and do you worry that with threats like that, with the sanctions being put in place an the next few days, that he is going to point his cyber criminals toward the united states? >> there is no telling what he will do. he is far crazier than we had any idea. what worries me to is that he i battle fixated right now. he is watching his russian forces move through ukraine, th secretary of state wouldn't rul out the possibility of him attacking someplace else and that tells you they are worrying

. as for the cyber, i think he would possibly do it if he had specific goal in mind. however he did use cyber attack right before he sent for conventional forces into ukraine . i do believe that he understand the u.s. has the very powerful cyber tools now. i right now i see that as a standoff and cyber, but keep your virus protection of, everybody should be worried. i'm sure our cyber command is watching this very closely. >> and want to get your tactica response. where the russian troops are strongest because we know they have come through from the ease coming through and there has been some heavy fighting reported up there. they have come down from belarus . troops down there at the belaru border is about 120 miles from kyiv. they've dominated the black sea and the south. we haven't had any confirmation of mvb as landings at the

earliest start of this war, there was some speculation you could see the map right there, there was some speculation that around the peninsula of crimea, there was some mvb's landing fo eight we don't know if that happened. but my question to you is they seem to have this area surrounded. it seems to be going perfectly on plan save for a couple of blunders possibly at the airpor outside of ukraine. this seems to be going accordin to hoyle. your thoughts? >> i don't even think you need the amphibious forces at this point. this is a very diabolical and complex campaign. it's the biggest type of campaign that russia has ever tried to pull off. what they want now is to be abl to link all these pieces together taking out command and control and now the ground

forces moving to their territor objectives in the terrain, they are supposed to taken hold. it is really complicated and although russia has done big word games, they've never done it for real. they've got some experience in syria, but this is not quite th same. i think they have a pretty complex piece coming together. it's clear that putin wants to make this a rapid strike like the u.s. strike against baghdad back in 2003. he's got to achieve a couple of things, he's got to take out as many ukrainian forces as he can and of course he wants the zelenskyy government to fall. he wants to wipe out ukraine as a separate nation and that mean getting their political system down. part. >> what's curious is that last week before this took place i interviewed somebody who said when this starts it's going to be just like shock and all in held that would rain down and w haven't seen that.

we're talking about thousands o missiles that went back in iraq back in the day, and this, we'v got 160 some odd missiles, 160 some odd explosions. you wonder if it's because russia didn't have the capability for shock and all. as horrifying as this is for th ukrainian people, it is not wha happened in iraq and i wonder why that is. again, russia hasn't tried this before as a right about now the russian commander are looking at their battle damage assessment saying did we destroy these targets or do we need to do a read strike. and how are we supporting the movement of the ground forces. they may not have made quite as much progress as they wanted to but they are clearly counting o the blitzkrieg like push to do that, the shock of the invasion and try to get forces to

collapse. the more that ukraine can continue to fight back, the better, and hopefully they can fight back and get the forces t run out of steam. it's not too easy when the folk you've invaded for no reason ar shooting back at you. >> is that to say you believe the bloodiest part of this war is yet to come? >> it's hard to say i think it goes two ways bear there either ukraine fights back russia slow down and we see that retracted, or the shock effect really work and the russians can coordinate this enough and get to all of these areas. there is no question that putin has bitten off more than he can to. i don't think he wins this figh long term and ukraine, but i've got to say it's a tragedy i wis we had u.s. and nato supporting ukraine a bit more and look at the difference that that could be making. >> look at some of these protes in russia and you talk about

winning hearts and minds and yo wonder how much it takes to actually tilt that's a little bit and the favor of the ukrainian people where as putin has says, he believes that ukraine and russia are one people, they are brothers and sisters, yet he is attacking them. at some point when you see thes protest going on in moscow and other big cities in russia, it begs the question, how much doe it take for public opinion to suddenly shift and create immense pressure for the president of russia. >> i don't think russia is buying this i think russia was also shocked by what putin did. yes back in 2014 he became more popular when he annexed ukraine the crimea region, but this is completely different. the russians have got to be horrified to learn of these missile strikes going into kyiv

and i don't think he really has the support of the russian people on this. this is his solution and his alone. >> and he holds power because this is just the way it is in russia, or have we come along a long way in 40 years and may be as one prominent person said today commit may be this is his last stand. is that overstating the case? >> that could be because he was very successful economically in russia during the first ten years, but not so much lately. the sanctions after 2014 have hurt. they have a tiny no growth economy and a lot of problems. we will see whether china is able to bail them out with extr energy purchases, but there is big risk here for putin, not just internationally sadly, i don't think that is going to come quick enough to help the people of ukraine and just

import. >> you mention china and i'd like to borrow some of your expertise on that, do you think when the president came out and said he was a grins russia goin into ukraine, that was a lie? >> so he got his tacit approval but this horrible the messy invasion, this is not china styled. china wants to do business and slink into our economy. also, this just put prudent and russia's military way up top. china has zero combat experience . they're a big military threat but they're looking at russia going crazy over here and i think that is going to make beijing a little uneasy. having said that of course the core u.s. leadership response does say, they didn't defend kabul and afghanistan, they

didn't do very well in ukraine, may be they would not defend taiwan. >> they are obligated to defend taiwan. it would be an entirely different situation. is that a fair assessment? >> i believe there is a treaty, but the question is about calculation. a few things hey, if prudent ca decapitate ukraine, may be i don't need an mva beas invasion across the straits, maybe i can just do decapitation in taiwan, this is gradually changing the strategic and it, u.s. forces t rearming and guarding europe at a time when we really do also need to focus on the threat fro china in the pacific and around the world. >> you buy a indivisible thing where it's a distraction over the past four years with

president trump and russian collusion might have for the effort we are seeing right now in ukraine? >> yes, no question. this distraction of the russia hoax really did or any chance t engage with prudent food and. them sorry, when we rewrite the history were going to look back at the russia hoax and how that had one of many factors leading to the tragedy we see in ukraine , but yes, the russia hoax was a factor and the tragedy we see in kyiv today. >> thank you for coming on. it's a late night and we appreciate you staying up with us. it is day two of the war on ukraine from russia, and we are told that russian tanks are jus miles away from the capital. continuing coverage of this breaking news story.

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