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harris faulkner -- this is "outnumbered." russian troops have borne down on the russian capital with explosions. we are now learning thousands of russian marines have floundered in southeastern ukraine for a ground assault. there were ukrainian resistance has proven stronger than expected. the trevor yates has more with us in his life from the capital. >> kayleigh, good afternoon. russian forces are now within the city limits of the ukrainian capital targeting kyiv by ground and air. over the past several minutes we heard explosions in the distance and some small arms fire. similar scenes throughout the day. if you listen here in the ukrainian capital we do know the interior minister was handing out thousands of weapons to civilian's that is a real understanding that if those russian forces attempt to take over this entire city. they will be met with fierce resistance not only by the ukrainian army but also by everyday people pledging to take up arms and fight back.
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we went to the metro system of kyiv to speak with civilians and ask what their experience has been like as they have been hiding from air raids conducted by russian forces. take a look. the city of kyiv was on edge that's our. russian forces are advancing on the ukrainian capital. we've seen armed police officers outside of government buildings trying to prepare for what could be a bloodied, urban battle. underground the ukrainian civilians are waiting out the russian air campaign currently targeting this city. troops are within just a few miles of the city center and there is a real fear that civilians will run out of places to hide. >> we have nowhere to go so we came here to the underground. it is safer here. speak about the ukrainians and the russians that i say they are open to negotiations come about those negotiations are going to look different depending on who you ask. zelenskyy, the president of ukraine, has said you should do
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anything to stop the bloodshed, speaking about vladimir putin get the russians in this conflict of said one thing publicly and taken military action. back to you, kayleigh. >> tray, it feels very immanent what's happening there. more than 200 russian missiles, now we know a thousand troops are more storming in southeastern ukraine. you said last hour but these ukrainians don't have a month to wait. >> they don't have a month to wait. yesterday president biden, when he was announcing sanctions, basically said these sanctions will be in place and a month later we can reflect and see how much they are changing the behavior of president boudin of russia pair the reality is people are dying on the ground here today. it's a dire situation. it's part of the reason you see civilians picking up arms and preparing to fight off an extremely strong military. a military that in some areas is ten times larger than the ukrainian military. we spoke to one man today who
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said that she gave us his impassioned thoughts on the situation. i'll share with you what he said. these were his words. he said i'm not very good with weapons, but i will pick up a knife and slaughter those russian pigs if they come into my city. he told me he was an english teacher. before he left he said he was going to pray. that gives you a sense of what is going through the mind of people in the capital of kyiv. they understand they are fighting a life or death situation and they are willing to die in behalf of the sovereignty of ukraine. kayleigh. >> trey, thank you so much. these are heroes. these average there were reports of gunfire in kyiv. what are your thoughts?
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>> well i'm just reflecting on the fact that this is a strategic failure on the part of the u.s.-led nato alliance and in particular, the united states. ukraine has been under siege for the better part of the last decade. russia mounted 70,000 troops on the border last april. what vladimir putin got was a summit with president biden. we never did enough to make it clear to putin that it would be prohibitively costly in terms of spilled blood and treasure if you were to invade ukraine. now for the first time in decades we have a war in europe, a massive one. russia has violated ukraine's independence. it has profound ramifications for our nato allies in the border of ukraine. but also just for u.s. global leadership, stretching all the way obviously to china and taiwan. they have to be watching this
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crisis unfold. in taiwan's case with the greatest of concern. >> absolutely. rebecca, there have been reports that kyiv could fall within 1-4 days. this is a quick timeline. "the new york times" dealt with the pretty eye-opening report. apparently there were a half dozen to one dozen secret meetings to u.s. intelligent has shared with the chinese. each time the chinese officials, including the foreign minister or the ambassador to the united states, rebuffed the americans saying they didn't think an invasion was in the works. after one diplomatic exchange in december, u.s. officials had intelligent showing that beijing share the information with moscow, telling the russians that the united states was trying for so discard in the china would not tried to impede russia's plans. some american officials say the tie between china and russia appear stronger than at any time since the cold war.
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essentially china taking u.s. intelligence to assist russia. >> that's exactly right. we need to wake up and understand the china and russia now have a de facto alliance. they are working together to undermine the united states. there is an idea that we can just focus on the china threat and kind of wash our hands of what's happening in europe. it doesn't work like that. you talk about a timeline, a really quick timeline, 1-4 days. we have time later down the rode to mitigate what's happening up to this point. i'm interested in policy decisions immediately. we need to expedite arms into ukraine. we can do it through poland. they need more javelins. it's been stuck in bureaucratic inertia. poland wants these things. our baltic allies want us to shore up their own defenses. we need to get stuff to the ukrainian people. we've been telling our allies we need to tell mike you need to care about your country more than we care about your country.
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poland and ukraine are showing us they do appear at all of the baltic nations are. we need to be working with them, being the great ally we are. we have the good guys and we need to be holding the line. this is a u.s. interest to make sure this conflict is slowed, stopped, and it does not spell out into the countries in which we have article five obligations to come of that is the nato alliance, especially poland. very concerned about the country there. but we need to show strength. this administration is so afraid, they are really nervous. they need to find their courage and do what is necessary. >> you know who has shown strength, leslie? the people of ukraine. i was so touched as described by 13 ukrainians that spoke for the world, these were 13 ukrainians, leslie, on a small island called snake island. i want to listen to this audio. listen quickly as ukrainian border guards the affiant last words captured on audio wellies defending this island in the face of a russian battleship.
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>> 13 heroes, leslie, standing until the end. >> absolutely. this is one of the things that vladimir putin did not expect, the pushback from ukraine. i want to refer to my notes to give you exact numbers out of 3:00 p.m. in ukraine about these individuals who are truly fighting for their freedom. 2,800 troops lost, 80 tanks, 516 armored vehicles, ten airplanes, five helicopters. were talking about days, they originally set hours. this is one of the things worth
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seeing with the ukrainian people, they are united in the fight for their country against russia. we and the rest of the world need to be united in our support of ukraine, of freedom, and of democracy. i would agree with something that rebecca said. by the way, house speaker pelosi also agrees, we sent 650 million, but we spent 250 million in equipment. we need more weapons. we also need training. were talking about that. we also need debt nato down the road to do something well maybe you're not in a donation but what if you are a nation like ukraine that is important to the international community among the nato members. lastly bipartisan support among republicans and democrats say the sanctions day one, $39 billion hit to the financial sector in russia, but it doesn't go far enough. we need iran style of sanctions, which i do agree with. i agree with that as well as
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experts in american universities. we need to do more and we need to do it now. i will say because this is emotional and has been since 2014 for vladimir putin. i fear that he wants to go back to the days of stalin and that may not stop him. some people say he is quartering dilution at this point. >> yeah. we'll get to later in the hour, lauren, senator mendez has a bipartisan response and we need more sanctions and we need it now. we'll get to that. but i want to get back to what's happening in ukraine right now. i saw a heartbreaking video of a dad saying goodbye to his daughter as he stays to fight for his country, knowing he may never see his daughter again. the heartbreaking video of a young boy leaping over his father's dead body at the other end of putin's gun. these heroic citizen soldiers, the ukrainian foreign minister -- take a look to what he says about the spirit of his country.
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>> those people who say it's a lost cause don't know ukrainians. we will fight. this is our land and this is our people. there are many places in the world were smaller nations and would prevail over a bigger one because they were fighting on the right side of history. >> the outcome of the ukrainian foreign ministry account tweeting out, lauren, make molotov cocktails and take down the occupiers. tweeting this to their citizens. kayleigh, i am thinking of those parents who are sending their children to school with stickers on them with their blood type because they know this situation they aren't is so grave. so personal for so many. it's a fighting -- it's a street fight in many ways.
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making molotov cocktails in your kitchen, arm yourselves, go out and fight. i question if that passion can really speak to and speak up against the organized military might as we are seeing in russia. i say that for two reasons. british intelligence suggests that putin underestimated the strength of the ukrainians right now. he thought maybe yesterday his forces would've been able to take kyiv. that hasn't happened yet. we don't know when or if that will happen. but it's interesting that he might've underestimated them. and he might've underestimated his own people come across more than 50 cities in russia, more than 1700 arrests of russians holding up signs saying no to war. president putin has a problem on the home and too as he tries to expand westward. >> you know to lawrence point they are experiencing the russians with stiffer opposition than they thought. is there any fight -- where does that stand out?
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when you have your air force obliterated it seems next to impossible. >> look, we never gave the ukrainians the patriot antiaircraft missiles that they could have certainly used right now. i think certainly russia is going to conquer ukraine. listen, the punitive economic measures alone, we know that's never going to be enough to stop vladimir putin or deter him from attacking. it's about military assistance to the ukrainians. right now what the biden administration needs to think about is if were going to provide intelligence to ukraine so that they can launch attacks against russia. will we support an insurgency? we know the ukrainians will continue to fight. they're going to fight wherever they possibly can. putin knows there is number of nato countries the border of ukraine. having served in iraq, vladimir putin takes a hard lesson that when an insurgency
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has save hayden like when a run is provided to the taliban, that enables the insurgency to carry on and he's deadly serious about his concern whether ukraine made a will arm those ukrainian insurgents. it's time for the biden administration to step up and explain their plans to protect what's left of ukrainians independence. sanctions just are not going to cut it. >> i couldn't agree more. well said, dan. coming up, critics are slamming president biden today after he promised to restore world order, and tries to intimidate eastern europe. this is what we are seeing today.
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intimidating eastern europe would be over? now is attempts to stop the war is under new scrutiny after he said that's about sanctions yesterday. >> nobody expected the sanctions to prevent an invasion from happening. it's going to take time and we have to show resolve so he knows what's coming. >> how concerned are you that putin wants to go beyond ukraine into other countries in the u.s. will have to get involved if he moves into nato countries? >> the only thing i'm convinced of is if we don't stop now he'll be in emboldened. >> kayleigh? >> he said the sanctions are not tough enough. just breaking actually during the commercial break us isaac miller from the associated press with this headline, latvian foreign minister says the european union has approved russian asset freeze that includes putin and live her off.
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if that's correct that seems to go further than what the united states has done. >> yeah, i think we have to dig deeply into that. i'm not sure that's much more than anything symbolic. i saw that as well and after the program i'm going to be doing some research. initial plans of that seemed to indicate that it was going to be symbolic and not have a major impact. i just want to add that vladimir putin is out for with democracy. that's what scares him the most. he could never have a democratic neighbor like ukraine striving to build ties with the west, economic ties with the west committed to freedom and liberty. the very things that threaten putin's regime security. is trying to impose his twisted kgb vision of the world order on the rest of the world. he wants his sphere of influence, he believes only a few countries in the world should enjoy true sovereignty. russia and china among them. that's what we face right now. a month for sanctions?
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really i think ukraine has a lot less time than that to exist as a nation states. we are not demonstrating with her policy process a kind of alacrity. frankly this crisis is demanding of us. were going to pay the consequences. >> i'm sticking with you for a second. you mentioned the month language but i was from president biden. he said for now these sanctions are working and in a month or so it, i'm paraphrasing they are. but now is the time for crushing sanctions. i'm trying to wonder is if you're up thing we can't endure these crushing sanctions economically? and they are leading away rather than the united states? otherwise thing right here right now there is an invasion of us sovereign country now is the time for the highest level of sanctions? >> i think there's too much focus on the sanctions and not enough on policy. if we had a robust foreign policy which included real military assistance to ukraine. let's face it, we should've done it months ago when russia was amassing troops on the border. that could have deterred
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vladimir putin. right now putting all of our efforts into the sanction bucket europe sees that and they think it might not work. they don't think it's going to influence vladimir putin, it simply going to bring more economic pain to them. in the long run it's going to cause great harm. we should be aware that in the long term were talking about the european union with the gdp of $3.2 trillion. with all the unrest and chaos were facing right now on that continent it's going to have implications, negative implications for the global economy. again, it's time for president biden to step up and tell us what is real strategy is. we haven't heard that yet. >> dan, why didn't we do that sooner? you mention sanctions are not enough, aid to ukrainians we provided some but not more? why not? >> i can tell you from first-hand experience working the russian account back in 2008. right after russia invaded georgia, the obama administration pursued a policy
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of recess with putin. we decided that we would try to work russia and develop a relationship with russia. we decided we would prioritize that over expanding can military and economic ties with ukraine and we would pay the price for doing that. we've always tried to give russian off-ramp, diplomatic off-ramp. we've just not realized, this administration has failed to realize that vladimir putin has shown the kind of kgb thug that he is. he's invaded ukraine. were not responding effectively at all. i think our european partners are seeing that. they're just not going to talk about it because of the concerned that that would cause more collateral damage in the effort to support ukraine. >> rebecca, take a look at this. this is ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky criticizing his outlets for not doing enough to help them. he said this morning we are defending our state alone, as we did yesterday.
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the world's most powerful forces are watching from afar. pointed words they are. >> but he's exactly right. you know i think the reason were seeing a very confused messaging coming from joe biden and from his officials is because their policy is confused and it's because they're thinking is confused. we were told that the reason they were not going to cancel nor stream to his and the reason were not going to have heavy sanctions before russia invaded, was because of the turn. now you have joe biden thing that these sanctions were never meant to deter. they are confused. right now it's disagreeable and i think we should be doing full bore sanctions right now, even if it takes some time to take effect. because that is what demonstrates resolve. even if the germans fuss and complain about it, they need to wean themselves off russian energy. they need to go back to russian power. it would be powerful of joe biden said forget green energy at this point and our
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climate obsession, that is on hold. we need to open that keystone pipeline. we need to become energy independent in a major exporter again. those are the big movements, but one more point. there are some democrats that are beginning to split from the biden administration on this. i heard about some conversations among democrat congressional offices that are having a crisis of confidence in joe biden right now. they're saying where are these powerful sanctions? there is more bipartisan support for that here. the biden administration that's so afraid of it's own shadow and afraid of escalating the conflict that it's not having the effect of escalating the conflict. we need major sanctions in place to demonstrate resolve. get the lee ukrainians delete filleted they need. and bulk up in a significant way. u.s. president -- relocated more forces from germany. get air defenses through poland
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and ukraine in a very quick and expedited fashion. i mean joe biden just needs some backbone here. he might be getting it from his party, but he's going to have to speak up because they are beginning to murmur and say some of these things privately. >> meanwhile president zelensky, this meant as a hero in every sense of the word purity staying with his people to the end. he is target number one, he has described his family is hidden away as target number two. listen to the sound bite from the president, who is staying shoulder to show older with the people he represents. >> according to information, the enemy has listed me as target number one in my family is target number two. they want to destroy the country politically, terminating the head of state. >> yeah high praise from president zelensky -- it strikes me that the days leading up to the invasion there was a sense of calm and ukraine, right?
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that this wouldn't happen. if it did we could deal with it. suddenly it did happen and we see them fighting back and we see the president, even though he's listed as target number one showing brave results and willing to stick through to see his country through. where does he go next with all of this? the baltics perhaps? is that why you have estonia, latvia, lithuania saying those swift sanctions and so-called nuclear options for sanctions, do it now? nato members are worried that putin is so debacle right now that he'll go into their territory and zelenskyy is showing the strongest hand that he has right now. >> leslie, this tweet, he's a middle east correspondent for axios, he is reporting that in a
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videoconference call ukraine's president zelensky told e.u. leaders this might be the last time you see me alive. he staying nonetheless. >> i think -- a captain ghost on with his ship. i think is doing the right thing is a leader. we saw everyone cringe when the leader of afghanistan fled his people. i commend the leader of ukraine do that. we've heard mumblings amongst our allies that if you were to leave them perhaps we would not be taking the situation ukraine is seriously internationally, and they might not be as supportive. one of the areas in which the united states hands are tied a little bit, and one of the nuclear options if you will, is cutting russia off from the swiss bank system. we have pushed back from
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new york ukrainian allies and that appeared to be anger our international community allies to pull the trigger on one of these very significant additional steps that could be taken? again, internationally and in this nation we need to be united as we see the ukrainian people united. the majority of the world, we have more than 50% of the world economy, russia with china, to the president's point about a month from now, i don't believe the president saying that were going to wait a month to do more. i do think just listening to authorities on what these sanctions can do, there are short-term effects, but even more damaging long-term effects. one more thing, if they cut us off from the swiss bank system you're talking more than a 5% reduction of russia's gdp. >> rebecca, let me come to you really quick. between our e.u. allies and also regarding ukraine you have senator menendez who came out
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and said if you impose maximum cost on food and there's more that we can do. notably his counterpart in the foreign committee on the foreign relations committee, jim wright, agreed with them. so there is bipartisan support for doing more. >> exactly. i think the biden administration has a problem where they are leading from behind but in the worst way. because we have a crisis in europe where they're trying to get everybody on board before they do anything. now is the time for american leadership. work with the countries that are doing their part, and are demonstrating the resolve and the seriousness and the commitment. then the germans again, they're going to have to wean themselves off russian energy and that's the bottom line. they're going to weaken the entire nato alliance with this kind of behavior. i would suggest moving forward. swift is one thing, but i would go even further than that. if you want the ruble at the
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fall foot through the floor -- there was like no reaction to the market after the announcement of sanctions, because nobody really thought they were that serious. there's got to be serious pain against the russians and the russian people are going to feel it. they are going to respond and hopefully get out in the streets in protest this unjust act of aggression on the part of the russian government. by the way, there's going to be body bags coming home of dead russian soldiers for this completely unjust and unneeded need this war of aggression. so i would say yes, listen to the bipartisan congress here. there's so much more to be done. we have different allies saying different things because it's confused. it's an alliance. you need somebody to save this is what we are doing, we are leading, come with us. that's the role the united states needs to play. >> if this isn't the time then when is the time? the answer is that the time is now. as russian forces under kyiv,
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>> shots fired at us kyiv train station as crowds of people try to get out of the capital city. in the meantime, farther west in the ukraine, aerate sirens have gone on multiple times. mike tobin his life for us. >> first of all, kayleigh, i have to ask you to pardon the shot. think world war ii air raid blackouts, the police asked us not to blast a bunch of light off the position we are at right now. four times today the people here had to scramble for cover because four times today the air raid sirens blared.
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martial law is now in effect. largely it's manifesting in the form of a curfew that starts at 10:00 local time tonight. you do see soldiers out on the street with their air ak-47s. often time and conflict elsie soldiers walking around in the guns aren't loaded. in this case the guns are loaded and ready for combat. fighting age men are flocking to the areas where they can receive a weapon they can use to volunteer and become part of the fighter. if you go to kyiv we show an alarming scene of people trying to get on a train to flee and head west in this direction. a remarkable scene where people are crowding onto the rail cars and shots are being heard in the distance. the main road coming from kyiv to my location usually takes about six hours by car. currently it takes about 18.
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some 50,000 people of crossed the border into poland thus far fighting age men, 18-16 years old are being refused. they are being told to come back here, pick up a weapon, and join the resistance. the remarkable thing is how many people are eager to do just that appeared with the declaration of martial law there came a message from the mayor of lviv, a remarkable nugget that i noticed was that the people in this town are being warned to look out for strange markings or paintings around town. if they see them they are hard to paint them over or destroy them. clearly the mayor got some kind of intel that they are painting targets are using these markings to communicate. kayleigh. >> thank you, mike, stay safe. is vladimir putin's critics in the capital, they fear that his ambitions do not end there. eliciting comparisons to adolf hitler. >> this is a unilateral decision
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of putin, who has become held her and started a invasion of a sovereign country. >> dan, our own jennifer griffin set if you look at putin's eyes you see someone who's gone completely mad. i want to pop this quote from the economist that i shared with the viewers yesterday and i really want to underscore it. it says now that it's clear that he craves war, the question is where will he stop? he has set aside the everyday calculus of political risk and benefits. in studies driven by the dangerous delusional idea that he has an appointment with history, when nuclear power leader has lost sight of cost-benefit analysis, how concerning is that to you? >> it is concerning. i recall a conversation i had once with the russian intelligence officer and i asked what is it about your neighbors? he had such a horrifically bad relations. he said if you have a really nice house and my house isn't so
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great i'm just going to go burn years down. that's kind of the way vladimir putin looks at the world. especially his neighbors. any neighbor of his, including the baltic states, a functioning democracy with a thriving economy could without the threat to vladimir putin. we've seen what is done to his own protesters. he denies his own people basic civil liberties that so while we continue to plan for fighting the war that we face today in ukraine, we need to prepare for the war that we might have to fight in the baltic states against russia. putin's risk calculus has changed. i agree with that. weather is gone so far as general secretary brezhnev, who launched that ill-fated invasion of afghanistan, which put a few nails in the soviet evil empire coffin, that's certainly quite possible. even if it's not that likely that putin would engage in a
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military attack on a nato member at this time we have to prepare for it and we have to make it clear to putin that we will stand up for our nato allies and we haven't done that as effectively as we showed. >> what a concerning prospect that is, rebecca, that dan brings up the notion that he could attack a nato country. you mentioned last time methods that could go beyond ukraine. it secretary of state antony blinken was asked is it a possibility that putin goes beyond ukraine? he said sure it is a possibility. if nato countries attacked, article five steps up and we are obligated to step in. >> that's exactly right. it's not even -- you know vladimir putin -- i actually think he's behaving rationally, based on his own assumptions that he holds. it's a mistake for americans to think that when other countries behaved so egregiously and belligerent, that they are mad men. it's that they have a different set of national objectives and we better understand that
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vladimir putin was very clear in his speech is about as intended. unless he's made to stop, and less he's made to pay a price that is not willing to pay for his gain, he will keep going. i'm afraid that maybe he won't intentionally strike and nato country, that he won't seek to do it on purpose, but he very well could by accident. he could stumble into a war because once you keep moving through ukraine all the way up to the border and takes the whole country come you're going to have seven nato countries exposed to russia, right up against the russian border. then you could have an accidental warplane or missile land in nato territory in which those countries, understandably, respond. then we've stumbled into a serious war with nuclear powers. one last point, the french foreign minister bravely responded to these veiled nuclear threats on the part of the russian federation by reminding the russians that nato is a nuclear alliance as well. once again in allies showing greater courage and saying
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something like that so brave and so true and necessary at this time, that we are not seeing from u.s. officials. >> lauren, that's an interesting prospect that rebecca brings up. it's the other side of the argument, which is that putin has been in power for 22 years. as the economist noted come after 22 years, even the dictator with an oversensitive own destiny has a nose for survival in the ebb and flow of power. people in his own country are going to rise up economically as they are hit with a really hard conditions. >> that hasn't happened yet, unfortunately, but it can. as rebecca was just saying, strong words from the french foreign minister. we are a nuclear alliance as well. we can hit you. we haven't seen that as we have this military invasion in ukraine. we haven't seen that response with these late and light economic sanctions. because of economic sanctions don't target the bread and butter of the russian and european economy. i mean russia is two-thirds of
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their economy is oil. these sanctions haven't touched their oil, right? because putin made the gamble, being the leader and having experience, he knew all 27 european union nations wouldn't get together and agree that they had to make the same targeted sanctions. and he won, he was right. the bread-and-butter have his economy, his oil, is still flowing through ukraine's to the rest of europe and the europeans need it, because they don't have anything else because it's cold and they have to fill up the gas that's the thing, we heard his manifesto, his essay he wrote over the summer. this is what he intended to do. then we try that strategy have let's declassify information. so putin would know that we knew what he was can i do and he did it anyway. we were spot on an hour and still trying to figure out how to respond to stop him. quite frankly i'm not sure what we can do at this point. >> meanwhile the people of ukraine suffered, leslie, look at the moving scene in kyiv were
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a woman cries and she singing the ukrainian national anthem while sleeping close to broken glass near her window. i've also seen video of men and women of ukraine and the subway singing songs about their faith. they are suffering, leslie. >> absolutely. war is and this is exactly what we see. but this is exactly an example -- i would agree with jennifer griffin, of why it looks as if vladimir putin has become unhinged. he's been in na reactive emotional state since 2014. this has been brewing since 2014. i don't think there's any stopping him. he doesn't care on the level of humanity that we all share when we see these images of these ukrainian people. i would agree with dan, he hates freedom. i would also believe that he either thinks it's 1975, or he wants to go back to 1975, no matter the cost. i would disagree come i think it was her back earlier that said
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it would not be an intentional strike on a nato nation. i think all rules go out the window with this guy at this point, because i do believe he's become a completely unhinged person. to lauren's point, would say it's like to attack sanctions against 80% of the financial institutions in russia, and attacking them on almost every level. mining and coal, not just the financial institutions. individual oligarchs. on the first day alone, as i mentioned earlier, i reiterate that $39 billion just in day one to the president's let's see what happens a month from now. of course more sanctions i believe will be coming because we do have that bipartisan support. i believe, and i'm a democrat, we need to have an iranian style sanction against vladimir putin. i also said that i'm not sure that's going to deter a guy that either mentally or really is again in 1975, and wants to bring us back there.
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>> well, it's still confounding to many if you knew this invasion was happening come as the president told is exactly what we could today, why wait to put in place sanctions until after it happens? it's a question i think a lot of people are asking. coming up, as the war escalates across ukraine at this hour, top cybersecurity experts warn about what happens next. veteran homeowners, need a financial boost? the newday 100 va loan lets you borrow up to 100% of your home's value and take out up to $60,000 or more. give them a call. veteran homeowners, newday wants to help you use your va home loan benefit to get more. more cash, more savings, more peace of mind. the newday 100 va loan lets you borrow up to 100% of your home's value. up to $60,000 or more. veterans are saving an average of $615 every month. with more ways to help more veteran families, no bank, no lender, no one
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>> this is breaking right now, ukrainian president, vladimir zelinski, remaining defiant as he posted a video saying that we are all here, we are all in kyiv, we are defending ukraine. that's bring it back in trey yingst again. >> i don't hear any programming, guys. >> trey, are you there? >> civilians preparing for the possibility of yet another air campaign by russian forces. earlier this hour there were explosions in the distance. we know that that martial law curfew will go into effect in just over two hours. there's big concern by officials in the ukrainian capital that russian troops could basically try to infiltrate the city and launch an attack from the inside. now ukraine is prepared for that and they have been arming civilians here and other forces across the city. so if it does turn into an urban warfare type situation they'll
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be able to push back against that offensive. it would be a bloody offensive if it does take place in that manner. we know diplomatic efforts are underway to try to push the russians back from the brink of totally taking over this country. many ukrainians say it's too late. in terms of support there are reports right now that nato will be supplying ukraine with more air defense systems. it will be extremely helpful being able to allow the ukrainian forces to slow down the russian air campaign. but it may take too long for those systems to get here and ultimately it would be up to the ground forces in ukraine to defend the city. back to you. >> thank you. all right, as the russian war machine brutalized as ukraine, the united states government is on high alert for a possible russian or chinese attack on our cyber network. the head of the justice department national security division says will be prepared. intelligence estimates say could be a week or two to recover from an attack on our national energy
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grid, or american banks. press secretary jen psaki shooting down reports that president biden would give an option for his own cyber attack against russia. she claims those claims are off base and does not reflect what is being discussed in any shape or form. dan, ukraine this been described previously by one of the founders of that offensive farm of gdh keough as russia's playground. we saw cyberattacks leading up to the invasion. could we see them here? >> russia has used georgia, back in 2008, for their hybrid war, as well as ukraine. remember the unpaid trade attack against ukraine and all of the massive attacks against the government ministries and banks and private sector and everything. so vladimir putin, listen he has an army of hackers in his intelligence services and then all of those hackers that enjoys
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sanctuary and russian territory conducted attacks against look in just the past couple of years. solar winds, gbs, our fuel pipeline, not to mention targeting the democratic national committee. so we have to be concerned about russia targeting our infrastructure, mounting continued disinformation campaigns. vladimir putin considers that a way to counter any efforts by the united states to support ukraine. he might think of it as deterrent as well in the event that he thinks he can induce the united states not to respond so strongly in defense of ukraine because he has this quiver that he can aim at us. another arrow, espionage arrow. it's asymmetric warfare, buddy specializes in that as a kgb operative. >> it's frightening indeed, check this out, leslie, this is from anonymous come of the group of hackers. they say that we want the russian people to understand that we know it's hard for them
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to speak out against their dictator for fear of reprisals. so while people around the globe smash your internet provider's debates, understand that it's entirely directed at the actions of the russian government and putin. >> in other words you the people of russia don't hate us, were just attacking vladimir, not all of you. but once russia is done, even though the russian people's hands are tied, what i saw before the broadcast on european tv outlets, there's been a couple of reports of some russians that are in hospitals that are saying that they were told as soldiers that ukraine attacked first. some of them believe they are defending themselves. and we knew that would be one of the things vladimir putin would do, because that is an ml for him. also cyberattacks. this is what he does before he invades a country. he did it with ukraine, he did it with crimea. they start little and they increase. i'm not surprised that we are
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readying ourselves for some sort of cyber attack. i agree russia metals in our elections. they did so through the internet, where a cyber attack would come through. you know i don't put anything against this leader. this is a man who has bounties on the heads of the united states military troops. >> you know there's questions on the reporting from biden's own intelligence committee, i just want to point that out. but, lauren, coming to deal. facebook, twitter, instagram or allowing the kremlin to put out the message. others want account for the ministry of foreign affairs the put out 20 tweets in 24 hours. one such tweet was this, the purpose of this operation is to protect people who for eight years have been facing perpetrated by the kyiv regime. that's what we call a line it's going unchecked on social media. >> twitter say oops, human error, we made a mistake, we thought thought a real account that was actually going at spotting all of these deepfakes
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and all of this information, we thought they were misinformation. it really just becomes a complete mess. if i could go back to the cyber attack angle for one second, the cost for companies for protecting their infrastructure and their customers is huge. it's just one added cost to everything else they are facing right now. i know when you look at the latest economic numbers they look pretty good, right? but we are coming up -- you know the next earnings season we could see profits really dip because companies are looking around and they are saying okay, consumer confidence is out a 10-year low. interest rates are likely going up. inflation is at a 40 year high. now we have to make sure that we can keep our websites running and that everything is okay. these are all added costs for a company. the economy come as we are starting to see in the stock market, could be in for a rude awakening. >> it could be. rebecca, i sat here in this program on a friday in august,
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and we were told that afghanistan would not fall between a friday and a monday. thing it was not a friday to monday kind of thing. afghanistan did fall. now the intelligence in this case is showing us that in fact kyiv could fall in days. what do you expect to see over the weekend as we all hold this country and our prayers? >> this just shows the ideological rigidity of this administration, that they won't change course when things start to go down the drain. that happened in afghanistan during the withdrawal, were watching it happen in real-time pair they need to change their strategy. their strategy is failing. leslie says i don't mean to say that russia will not threaten nato come i believe they could absolutely threaten nato. i just mean they could attack nato by accident beer that's what happens when bullets are flying and missiles are flying. on the cyber ratio it's going -- i could escalate the on outside ukrainian borders. it could harm actual americans. we need to get off our back heel and put putin on his back yellow. that means a very serious change of course. this government needs to explain
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to the american people in concrete terms why there is a clear american interest at stake here in preserving peace in europe. >> yeah, this stay with us for "america reports." >> sandra: fox news alert live at the white house. president biden will make an announcement. announcing his nominee for the supreme court. >> john: after the breaking news on the ground in ukraine where vladimir putin's forces are surging in on the capital city. putin's hit list in hand. joining us former vice-president mike pence and senator rick scott and keith kellogg and karl rove in
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