[explosions] [sirens] >> breaking overnight, the battle for kyiv. ukraine forces mount an incredible sight for the capital city as russian troops move into city limits and bring the war directly to the streets. >> you are watching a special breaking special breaking news edition of facebook.com/outnumberedfnc here on a saturday morning. i'm todd piro.

>> i'm carley shimkus. if team coverage on that long with mike tobin live in lviv, griff jenkins in washington, with the latest white house response. >> but we start with steve harrigan live on the ground in kyiv monitoring the situation. what do you see right now? >> todd, noon on a saturday in the capital kyiv, 38 degrees, a brilliant blue sky, and the blue and yellow ukrainian flag still flying over this capital after three days of a russian invasion. there are multiple small gun battles inside the city center. it appeared to be small groups of russian special forces infiltrating into the city, perhaps probing the defenses. multiple small arms fire going on in the early morning and predawn hours. for the last few hours we haven't heard much of that. we have heard some shelling, loud explosions in the distance 4-5 hours out. the president of ukraine,

zelensky, warned that last night would be the test of ukraine, its fate held in the balance. he expected a big rush and push. so far that hasn't come. zelensky has instead shown himself on multiple postings on social media to show the world and especially ukrainians that he is still here. as for vladimir putin, when there was still talk of potential negotiations between the sides, putin referred to the leadership as neonazis, drug dealers, and drug abusers, as well. as far as the situation on the ground, a civilian building hit by a missile overnight. it's not clear how many casualties. people are still trying to leave however they can. of course, men aged 18-60 have to stay. there is a full-scale mobilization. but there are scenes of chaos at the train stations, people trying to take emergency trains out to the west as quickly as possible. back to you. >> steve, i'm just wondering -- i think a lot of

people thought they would wake up to kyiv in russian control. but you say that you are seeing small arms fire. nothing major. what do you make of that? do you think that ukraine is winning, or is this just the calm before the storm? >> it can be either one. we just don't know which it is at this point. there's been a lot of speculation. how they are bogged down. russia is only using a fraction of its force right now. the horrible thing is, if it decides it's necessary to use more force, a lot of that force is heavy and indiscriminate. so it would be a very bad thing if that happens. >> steve, to follow-up on carley's question, how much stock are you placing in the numbers we are hearing coming out of ukraine right now in terms of the russians killed in action? the russians taken prisoner, and the like? >> yeah, you see all kinds of

posts, especially on social media and fake videos, as well. i have not been reporting numbers on either side. only what they admit to being lost. on the first day of the ukrainian government admitted to losing 137 soldiers. that's a minimum we start from. but i'm not putting any stock in either government's claims of victory so far. >> that's an important point. steve harrigan doing amazing work on the ground there, live. steve, thanks. thousands of citizens fleeing for their safety. many leaving their homelands seeking refuge in neighboring countries. >> mike tobin is live on the ground in lviv where troops are bracing for battle. mike? >> there has been, carley, some conflict here to the western part of the country. this coming through the mayor of lviv. he talks about 60 miles to the east of here, just directly south of the belarus border, an attempt according to the mayor of an incursion by forces.

the attempt was met with resistance by ukrainian fighters and in the short period of time the troops there attempted to get off or didn't get off those helicopters and they lifted off and retreated. you have some conflict to the west, otherwise the war is seen in terms of air sirens and air strikes to the south and north on the outskirts of the city here. as far as the fighting, you have a very eager population here, eager to join the fight. you've got retired military, some of whom we have spoken with, headed down to the office to volunteer and grab their weapons. we have seen them lined up to get the weapons that are being handed out by the national police. we have seen that all across the country. we have images out of kyiv with people picking up boxes and boxes of pelagic rifles.you've seen them taking a position. but their disposition, i should say, was somewhat relaxed.

they don't have their helmets on, their weapons are loaded. we have seen the soldiers on patrol here with weapons loaded and ready for combat. but mostly what is going on here in the west of the country is the refugees trying to get out of the country. the biggest obstacle they face right now is traffic. the main road coming from kyiv to here is normally a six hour drive. we talked with one couple who did it in 14 hours. some of the ukrainians we are speaking with have family back in kyiv that can't get to kyiv and rescue the family. very trying times for those people who hope to rescue their families. we talked with one couple who escaped kyiv only to learn that they had family back in kyiv, and they can't go back and get them. it's a very difficult and emotional time. a lot of the people are making it to the border. yesterday the u.n. committee on refugees reported that some 50,000 refugees had made it across the border. we know on the polish side of the board they are establishing temporary housing.

the polish government has established a medical train to get medical care they need. also people are pouring over the moldovan border. we have images of people escaping over the border into romania. largely vc here is traffic of refugees. all the hotels in lviv are full at this point because you have so many people coming to try a bit of safety and this time of conflict. but day three now since the invasion, it is a saturday so traffic on the streets would be lighter. martial law in effect. when the cook he goes into effect you don't see really anyone on the street. the streets really empty out before that. as soon as the sun goes down, the stores close up in the streets empty and you are looking at a ghost town. a saturday morning, the traffic is somewhat normal. >> mike, i find interesting you mention mulled over. one of the first times we've

heard mention of that country. my sources in the defense community have said pay special attention to moldova in the next weeks. >> thank you so much. as the battle of kyiv rages on, president biden is away from the white house. >> he's got a phone call later today from delaware. griff jenkins, what is this all about? >> that's right, todd and carley. good morning. he is opting to spend his week in wilmington as russian troops close in on ukraine's capital. he will take a call with vice president harris and his national security team around 10:00 this morning and that's about all we know. it is unclear if we will hear anything new from the president. there are no public events on his schedule. this is russia's assault on ukraine intensifies. washington, d.c., speakers nancy pelosi saying, "i think it's really important for people

to understand the brilliance with which president biden is conducting this. this is a man who served decades as chair of the foreign affairs committee. he has the arena, he knows the personalities." however, not everyone agrees with that assessment. fox news contributor tom homan talking to you guys in the last hour had this to say. >> this would never happen, in my opinion, in the trump presidency. i think president trump and mike pompeo projected strength across the world. i think putin and other world leaders are aggressive, and what biden has done, i think they know he's underwater. i think they watched the afghanistan withdrawal, it was a travesty. >> this as our own peter doocy presses white house press secretary jen psaki over biden's efforts to deter putin. watch. >> what have you guys done throughout this slow-moving russia crisis that has worked? >> what the president has done

is build a global coalition to stand up in the face of president putin and his aggression and invasion of ukraine. what he has done is rallied the world. >> now, biden's latest offer to help, $350 million in military aid to ukraine. exactly what's included in that $350 million, being done like bullets, missiles, unclear at this point. ukraine's president turned down an offer to docket him but said, "i need a mission, not a ride." todd and carley? >> if you had any question about his resolve. stunning images seen around the world, including the country of georgia, where hundreds took to streets. that country invaded back in 2008. leading up in ukraine's police showing solidarity.

earlier today, hundreds gathering in sydney, australia, in a rally against the war and demonstrators taking to the streets in russia itself where thousands are arrested for speaking out against president vladimir putin's invasion. carley, we have seen hockey starts like alexander of ovechkn speaking out. >> i saw a video of a tennis star who had just won a championship and then he goes over to the camera and he writes on the glass so everyone can see it, in reverse, but it said "no war." he protested the war on tv. he is a russian. it's a dangerous move but there are so many people, for obvious reasons, speaking out on this. the biden administration is demanding more nations step up and denounce russia's invasion, including china. >> we are live at the pentagon as our special breaking news coverage on a saturday morning

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♪ ♪ >> we are back with a fox news alert. as the water reaches the heart of ukraine, the u.s. is pushing for more nations to demand russia stop its deadly attack on a sovereign nation. >> for the first time in

history, nato is mobilizing its response was. rich edson joins us at the pentagon for more. >> the biden administration has been very public about trying to push countries and being out front with this intelligence, where you saw this massive troop buildup from russia. in private conversations, the administration was pressuring other countries to try and push russia to not invade. that includes china. this odd dance you are seeing between china and russia really playing out in the u.n. security council earlier just yesterday, in fact. there was a vote on a draft resolution in front of the u.n. security council. there's a resolution calling on russia to halt its invasion and withdraw. china abstained. the chinese officials have largely blamed the west for her, their words, starting the fire in europe as china has largely refused to criticize russia for the invasion it started a couple

days ago. in ukraine, u.s. intelligence suggests russian forces have faced stiff resistance, that ukraine's air and missile defense capabilities are still working, though degraded. and warplanes are still operational. >> without getting into a blow-by-blow, it is not apparent to us that they've been able to execute their plans as they deemed they would. >> nato, for the first time in its history, mobilized its response force. it's a defensive group of up to 40,000 troops. the u.s. is sending 7,000 additional troops to europe to bolster nato defenses. the administration says no americans will fight in ukraine. the u.s., united kingdom, and european union have sanctioned russian president vladimir putin and sergey lavrov. the u.s. treasury department in

that announcement says, "it is exceedingly rare for treasury to designate a head of state. president putin joins a very small group that includes despots such as kim jong un, alexander lukashenko, and bashar al-assad. they have faced widespread condemnation of his invasion of ukraine, including protests within russia. back to you. >> rich, live for us. thank you so much. despite a significant russian assault on kyiv last night, the city remains under ukrainian control this morning. >> dan hoffman joins us now to assess the situation here on a saturday morning. dan, how long can ukrainians keep up this resistance? >> l, d ukrainian's are facing overwhelming force, but they sought to decapitate the ukrainian government last night, and so far they have not succeeded. it is clear that vladimir putin wants to finish this as quickly as possible. he is spilling a lot of blood

and a lot of treasure. he's also facing protests at home. i think that is clearly what motivated him. ukraine is not going to be able to win this, at least in the near term, but we can expect them to carry on and fight a guerrilla war, and some of the key questions for the biden administration are, how can the united states continue to funnel intelligence to carry on the fight and target their russian occupiers? how to get military assistance to that extraordinarily brave ukrainian resistance? shocking images today. kyiv, 3 million population in that city and so many of them forced into bomb shelters and others carrying weapons fighting on the streets. i think something so many of us could never have imagined. >> without a doubt. you mentioned the protests taking place in russia. protesting is illegal in that country, so a lot of those people are getting arrested.

still, 150 russian officials have condemned the invasion, saying hope for a good life in russia is crumbling before their eyes. if putin doesn't have the backing of his people, how difficult does that make things for him moving forward? >> i think he can handle, at least for now, his population writ large. but i think the section of his population vladimir putin has to be most worried about is his military. the czarist empire collapsed in the wake of world war i when the army did not want to fight, and vladimir putin has to be cognizant that he sent his own military to fight their own people, essentially, the way putin describes it in ukraine. he sent them with massive disinformation, full throttle propaganda. they are getting to see firsthand what the situation is like in ukraine. at some .1 has to wonder whether the russian military will decide that enough is enough, and they may not want to serve their

leader. that's a risky faces. he also faces a risk for his own inner circle, very tight inner circle, i would emphasize. they may decide vladimir putin instantly not up to the task and that his brinkmanship is causing the russian state more harm then the benefit. frankly, vladimir putin could have claimed so many of his aims without fighting a shot, but he chose this extraordinarily risky decision to make and it is causing such great harm to ukraine, obviously. he's taking great risk to his own regime. >> really interesting point about having the support of the military going forward. let's face it, the people making up the military are by and large young people. in society, in life come in our world, people who are often the revolutionaries fighting back against their own government are the young people. also these young people never saw the soviet union.

if you're 20 years old picking up a gun for putin right now, you don't remember the soviet union because you were not born at that point in time. with that said, dan, who does putin have the support of? >> well, right now he has the support of the military, the support of his intelligent services, and that's what he needs to carry on the fight. but that could very well be ephemeral. look back at afghanistan and all the years that the soviets fought there, and the damage that caused on soviet society. it was certainly one of the -- a lot of nails were put in that soviet evil empire cough and as a of secretary brezhnev's decision to invade. he was in the last couple years of his life. he took this decision after being in power for two decades, putin, and he has to be cognizant of this extraordinary risk he's taking. his legacy for having caused

massive war on the european continent, the likes of which we haven't seen since world war ii. >> dan, thank you for joining us this morning. always great to see you. great perspective. >> president biden sanctioning vladimir putin directly, but the white house says russia will not feel the impact for another month. >> right now none of those sanctions target oil or energy. vladimir putin is still a member of the banking system. congresswoman nancy mace joins us next. ♪ ♪ age-related macular degeneration may lead to severe vision loss. and if you're taking a multivitamin alone, you may be missing a critical piece. preservision. preservision areds 2 contains the only clinically proven nutrient formula recommended by the national eye institute to help reduce the risk of moderate to advanced amd progression. "preservision is backed by 20 years of clinical studies" "and its from the eye experts at bausch and lomb" so, ask your doctor about adding preservision. and fill in a missing piece of your plan.

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♪ ♪ >> back to the breaking news, but first big headlines we are following. as war rages in ukraine, president biden announces ketanji brown jackson's nomination to the supreme court. jackson tapped to replace retiring justice stephen breyer page will be the first black woman to serve in the highest court if confirmed. she currently sits on the court

of appeals where she replaced current attorney general merrick garland less than your go. easing masked guidelines for 70% of the u.s. population including schools. the agency no longer advising students to wear a mask in the classroom if they are at a low or medium-risk county. guidance for general public, they say masks should still be one on pollutant rotation. a ukrainian member of parliament is vowing to take up arms and kyiv to defend his country's capital. he joins the ingraham angle to share his account. take a listen. >> the battles happening everywhere. now in kyiv i'm hearing plenty of shooting happening on the streets, and i'm the only member of parliament joining the fight. we are very confident as far as the reality that everybody here wants to defend their country.

>> the mayor also among the ukrainian government officials now to stand fight for the capital. back to. >> warning the u.s. that we will need to back our nato allies from a potential attack from putin. south carolina congresswoman nancy mace, how close is that scenario to happening? >> if that scenario were to happen, that's world war iii. an attack on one, an attack on all. it would be the first case scenario in this situation. as we watch the events unfold, it's very scary what we see over there. when putin gave his remarks a few days ago he said it's a limited military operation. we are not seeing that at all. every morning americans wake up and see the destruction happening in ukraine. i'm glad to see there are protests around the world in support of the people of ukraine and president zelensky, who has

so much leadership in the last few days. being out on the streets this morning of kyiv, just remarkable to see the stark difference between his leadership, and putin, who is hiding somewhere in moscow, i'm sure. >> this zelensky guy has got guts, without a doubt. your colleague, representative turner, issued this statement. "this is a time where we need to stand up, show strength, make certain we put putin back in his box and help stop this aggressiveness." congresswoman, i'm looking at the response by the biden administration so far. should we have provided way more in lethal aid to the ukrainians, weeks, months, if not years ago? and going forward? >> we were told by president biden and his administration that the consequences would be swift and clear, and it's not as if putin had this build up on the border with 100,000 plus troops that it happened overnight. this has been going on for nine months, upwards of nine months.

we knew this was coming, or a potential. we just sat on the sidelines and now everyone is scrambling. i was encouraged to hear the biden administration say they are looking at personal sanctions against putin. that we should hit him where it hurts, but also hit his inner circle, continued to hit the russian oligarchs. we should be asking opec to increase oil production. i don't want to fill my car with 1 gallon of russian gas. i don't think any american does. we need to look at russia's oil economy. these sorts of battles and munitions. i want to hear in his speech next week, in the state of the union, that we are going to see congress passed some sort of bill that will help support defense agreement going into ukraine. i think there are a lot of options on the table he could have already explored or done over the last several days, weeks, and months, and been much more effective than we are today, putting our nato allies in grave danger. >> at such a great point. many of us have been talking

over the last couple days, and by the same token, what we can do not to help the russians in this. let's get back to the sanction. we haven't yet to really come down full-throated-leon vladimir putin himself. we haven't forced him out of the swift banking system. does that make sense to you? >> absolutely. you have to hit putin where it hurts, which is his wallet. he's reportedly one of the richest leaders in the world. you have to look at the airline industry, make us really hurt the russian oligarchs. but the swiss banking system, if we were to ban russian from that, that's the equivalent about 5% of russia's gdp. if they were to be a moratorium on exports of oil to our european allies, that's worth about $50 billion a year to russia. you look at the u.s. oil imports, we are importing upwards of 6,000 barrels a day, and one of every 12 bales in the

u.s. comes from russia. a lot of options on the table could hurt them economically, which is what we should have been doing months ago leading up to this. this would have prevented that. but that's not where we are today. they have the with where you are today and it's a disaster. >> congresswoman nancy mace, we appreciate your insight as always. see if i've come over to you. >> millions of ukrainians fleeing their homeland trying to stay alive while others are taking up arms and fighting back against russia. our next guest is living in ukraine and she shares what it's like in the middle of a war zone. ♪ ♪ surance. (man) hey, hon! (wife) hi, honey! (man) like what? (burke) well, you'd get a discount for insuring your jet skis... and boat...rv...life... ...home and more. you could save up to forty-five percent. (man) that's a whole lot of discounts. (burke) well, we offer coverage for a whole lot of things, and you could save a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. (kid) sup, dad!

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♪ ♪ >> breaking overnight, a fight for the capital city has russian troops move into kyiv city limits. >> steve harrigan live in kyiv. what are you seeing right now? >> todd, they've just shut down the subway system in kyiv due to street battles. it'll be at least a semipermanent bomb shelter for the residents of kyiv now. there have been number of street fights a number of hours. they have come to the bay city center of this capital, possibly to probe the defenses, but we have seen small arms fire. president zelensky has shown himself several times on postings basically to show the world and his people that he is staying here. putin says he has no intention of negotiating with the "drug addicts and neonazis."

on day three they have not captured in the major cities or population centers. people continue to flee. at least 50,000 people heading out in the past 48 hours. back to you. >> thank you so much. also refusing to evacuate our many citizens of lviv, just west of the capital. >> mike tobin live on the ground. mike? >> and we have new information about military activity from the lviv mayor. he says about 16 miles to the east of my location can be just below the belarus border, there was an attempted helicopter insertion using three russian helicopters, in tempting to insert about 60 russian troops. according to the mayor, he says they were met with ukrainian resistance and they were able to repel this attempted helicopter insertion of forces.

here in the city of lviv we have ukrainian troops taking a position. one of the things you may notice, if the video is rolling, a rather relaxed disposition of these ukrainian forces as the combat has not largely made it to the second city, if you will, here in ukraine. they don't have their helmets on, they are carrying their weapons, but what we have seen here with martial law in effect, the soldiers are walking around with their weapons loaded ready for combat. weapons are being handed out, particularly to retired army veterans. the volunteers here are very eager. we went to one of the locations where the weapons are being handed out, and the line was such that he had to have a sergeant monitoring the traffic of the people eager to pick up a weapon and join the fight. largely what you see here to the west of the country is the flow of refugees. there is a tremendous traffic jam from kyiv to the western portion of the country. the refugees are flowing out of

the pole and come moldovan, and over the romanian border. and that is our situation in lviv now. back to you. >> live on the ground in lviv for us, we'll stay there and speak to lviv spokesperson melanie odolyak. it's good to see you again. we spoke to yesterday. how have the last 24 hours been for you? >> extremely difficult. i am keeping in touch with our troops, they are holding on, especially those in the eastern side of ukraine. but they are holding on well. lviv is fine so far. we've had some casualties during these days, especially children, so it's very difficult, but we are staying strong. >> you have such an incredible insight to share with us. like i said, you're speaking to the troops. you are in with them as we are

fighting this war broke out in your country. what are they saying to you? >> they are keeping up their spirits. they are realistic about it. they tell me it's hard. a friend of mine and special forces contacted me, sent me a picture, and posted if anything happens. think for nothing has happened so far. he is alive and well. i can't tell you that much more because that would be divulging too much information, but everybody i know is still alive and well. >> both russia and ukraine have signaled they are interested in peace talks. do you think that is how this ends, or are we past diplomacy at this point? >> your past diplomacy years ago. i don't know. anything the president and government decide to do now, if they think that's a good idea, we will support it. however, i have no illusions concerning the russian government. we have three children as of

now, and 33 wounded children. they have been attacking houses where people live, children's hospitals. i have information that a children's hospital in kharkiv was shelled. people don't talk. >> i can't imagine we're going through. i would like to share your perspective on that front. we are hearing the cleaning government is handing out guns to people and teaching them, encouraging them to make molotov cocktails to protect themselves. what is daily life like for you right now? >> for me, i am just buying up military equipment and trying to send it off to kyiv. i'm trying to make connections abroad and buy up as much kevlar plates, anything we can get our hands on. medicine, tourniquet's.

that's what i'm doing. but people, we have a couple groups in kyiv have come together en masse making molotov cocktails in order to burn down the russian motor vehicles. that is what i know of as of now. >> doing your part to help out as so many of your fellow citizens are. melanie, great to see again. stay safe. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> she is an unbelievable young lady. as the bloody invasion rages on, russia is engaging in all-out cyber warfare. we break down that threat next. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> we are back with a fox news alert. meta is banning rushing state media from monetizing content on facebook. posts from media outlets will be flagged by facebook, as well. twitter also buying russian outlets from advertising on its platform, but twitter has not permanently banned president vladimir putin's account or even flagged it as misinformation. todd? >> meantime, the hacking group anonymous appearing to declare cyber war on putin's russia invades ukraine. here to break down what that

means, the first u.s. air force base forest software officer. could see again. can they do any real damage? >> in the last two days, that's a first. they went after the russian government sites first and targeted the russian media tv site, and the largest russian energy company was down, as well. unfortunately these attacks were filtered by russia very rapidly and you now have these websites back up and running. it's only because russia decided to filter the traffic coming from outside of russia. so the websites are fully accessible for the citizens. the impact so far, anonymous announced that they managed to allegedly hack into the minister of defense russia database. so there might be a leak of data coming soon. we don't know the extent of that

yet. they also announced for the first time that they might consider going after the systems powering the critical infrastructure of russia, the water and power systems. this would affect every day citizens so that could be very impactful. but i've yet to see and do something like this because they are trying to avoid targeting every day citizens. >> here in the u.s., dhs's warning of russia cyberattacks on our country. what do you expect those disruptions could look like? >> if that were to happen they would probably go after the main grid systems and water systems. they've done that before. it's very brittle. i call it at the kindergarten level. unfortunately still to this day they've done a good job in the last few months to step up the game and stop bringing better cyber defense capabilities in front of the systems. unfortunately it is too a little, also late.

>> which of these capabilities be going forward from this point, knowing what we now? >> we need to adopt what we call zero trust, the best of cyber defense capabilities. company like google have been using zero trust for six years now. the government is lagging behind. that is what you see across the u.s. government. unfortunately we have capabilities that are often lagging 5-10 years behind, and we can't afford to do that anymore. you do have the best cyber offensive capabilities, that if you were to use them, you only get to use them once because russia is going to patch their systems and they won't be able to be used again. but then you open the door for russia to attack you back. unfortunately that could impact every day americans, as well. >> ask you this question 48 hours ago and i will ask it to you again. do you want the american citizen to do anything in particular with regard to protecting themselves from a russian cyber attack? >> obviously have to update your devices and make sure they are

patched and don't click on phishing links. i don't believe they will go after everyday citizens. i feel their impact at the gas station but that's pretty much it. >> we appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> gunshots and explosions ring out and ukraine and world order is on the verge of crumbling. just 13 months into biden presidency. congresswoman lisa mcclain says the president is issuing weakness on the world stage. she joins us next. ♪ ♪

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sanctions against vladimir putin, sergey lavrov, but it was only after the e.u. announced those same sanctions themselves. are we leading from behind here? >> the short answer is yes. we used to be the world leader and the world used to look up to the united states. remember, biden ran on that he was going to get america back into the good graces with everyone, unify everyone. he has done anything but. we are a day late and a dollar short on everything. we don't lead. i can't even say we follow, to a good extent. this is probably the weakest administration that i know i have seen in my lifetime. weakness breeds aggression. in my opinion, what i see is an extremely weak president that is

not leading. and in times of crisis, we have to lead. we would have been better off, no matter what biden said, to do the opposite. let's think about this for a minute. the first day he got into office he shut down the keystone pipeline. it's not like we don't use oil anymore. we don't use our oil. we now use soviet union oil. we have now emboldened them and empowered them to import oil to us while they are fighting a war. explain to me how that makes sense. we went from energy independent to energy dependent. that's weakness. >> but, congresswoman, according to your colleague, speaker of the house nancy pelosi, biden's response has been brilliant. is this what brilliance looks like to you? >> well, maybe for nancy pelosi this is what brilliance looks

like, because she might have a little dementia going, as well. but i think if you ask the american people and you ask ukrainians, they would definitely have a different opinion right now. what i am curious on, if it's so brilliant and it must be done, ukraine is probably not going to take over kyiv, right? it is so brilliant, they're probably reconsidering and they must be retreating right now. i've never met an administration that is so out of touch. with reality. >> i think during times of financial national security crisis, everybody always routes to the president of the united states to make the right decisions. that is really what this debate is about, whether he's making the right or wrong ones. the white house is asking congress for $6.4 billion for the ukraine crisis. do you think that amount of money will get approved? >> you know, i don't know. we'll see you and me go back

next week in the session. i'm concerned about two things. one, i want to know where the money's going to go, because last i checked they have severe issues in our country, as well paid whether it be inflation, a labor shortage, supply chain shortage, gas is going to be $4 here pretty quick. but i also want to see what other pork they tried to hide in this bill. before i make a recommendation, i would actually like to have a chance to see where the money is actually going to go. that's probably my biggest concern. >> congresswoman lisa mcclain, lee appreciate your insight here on a saturday morning. thank you for joining our special breaking news coverage. thank you so much. all right, carley. we are about to toss it to "fox & friends" to continue our coverage from here. i think this begs the question. one thing i wish i could've had time to ask her, is the world stage and the world order compromised going forward under this administration? based upon what we have seen, i am sad to say yes. >> that's a major question and

there is so much that hangs in the balance right now. we will have to wait and see how this unfolds in the future. joining us here at 4:00 a.m. tomorrow morning for breaking news coverage. fox & friends weekend starts very soon. >> they are going have a very split edition. pete hegseth is live, other folks on the couch. it'll be a great four hours. don't go anywhere, it begins now.