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we're waiting for still more move on the parts of countries, cities, and entertainment juggernauts and sports facilities to keep russia from playing a part, sports, president putin, you're not invited. >> fox news alert, right now, 7 p.m. and curfew time in kyiv where everyone is now under shelter order while their nation is under siege. ukraine's president zelensky putting it bluntly, this is the deciding moment the fate of ukraine's capital city right now. hello, aim he sandra smith from new york. neil: i'm john roberts in washington. and the troops are on a center,
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and putin's forces are about 18 miles north of kyiv. further away than putin thought they would be by now. officials say the russians are meeting nor resistance than expected and their frustration is visible. the president of ukraine, volodoymyr zelensky, he has given his word to stay despite the danger dismissing claims that the ukraine's military would put down their arms. >> do not believe in that information. i am here, we will be defending our country because our defense is in our truth. we will be defending our country. glory to ukraine. >> zelensky posting this to social media showing him walking the streets of kyiv. the u.s. reportedly offered to help him evacuate and his response was i need ammunition not a ride. promising to fight until the very end. >> a member of parliament
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pushing back against vladimir putin. tweeting this picture showing her holding a rifle. saying she's ready to fight and defend her country. this as the kremlin continues the full scale attack, with a path of destruction. >> unbelievable video feeding in today. one from a security camera, catching the minute a russian missile hit a high rise in western kyiv and amazingly only six people reported hurt. the war truly hitting close to home for ukrainians able to look out their windows and see fighting in the streets. [crying] >> another video reportedly showing an attack on a civilian which if confirmed could constitute a war crime. the russian tank appears to intentionally veer lift and roll over a car and then in
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reverse and the driver inside the vehicle. accord to go a reporter with the new york post, incredibly the driver was pulled out alive. >> burned shells of cars in the streets in kyiv and block upon block of apartment buildings devastated by air strikes, that's the visual toll this war is taking as the human toll continues to rise. hundreds of people are now dead. a number that is certainly to climb. among those killed, at least three children. then of course there are the injured. some maimed and disabled for life. thousands more ukrainians are homeless as they race for the safety of neighboring nations. >> we've got complete coverage here and abroad and to trey yingst where sandra pointed out just after 7:00 at night. a curfew taken hold. what's the situation on the ground. >> the mayor of kyiv announced a curfew that will stay in
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place until monday morning 8 a.m. after fierce street battles erupted in the ukrainian capital between the ukrainian troops and if the troops could make their way in for a ground offensive. as air raid sirens wailed throughout the night and there were missiles, and one of those hit an apartment building, no one was killed because one of the families in the apartments was in the bomb shelter at the time. we were in the streets of kyiv to see what it looked like. take a look. >> overnight, fierce fighting erupted between the ukrainian army and the russian forces in the streets of kyiv. this truck is riddled with bullet holes and there's blood on the sidewalk. this morning, a russian missile slammed into this building in the ukrainian capital of kyiv. this gives you a sense of destruction that these weapons can cause.
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right now ukraine is appealing to the international community to send air defense systems as their country is under attack. >> the city is filled with lines of people. civilians waiting outside police stations so they can pick up welcomes to fight russian troops and other people waiting in line at grocery stores still open to gather supplies and others underground in the metro system and in shelters, hunkering down by those russian bombers. >> trey, it's sandra here, can you give us a bigger sense walking the streets with the civilians fighting back and the sense of their resolve and their morale at this hour? >> people here are understandably terrified. the russian army is closing in on the city, and they are now seeing fighting on their door steps, but they're not giving up. as we've said, civilians are picking up arms and they're going to fight alongside the army and people that we've
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spoken with said they would use everything they can, one man we talked to yesterday said he's not good with weapons, but he said he would use his kitchen knife to kill the russian troops who come into his city. we've seen a similar resolve from lawmakers here, a number of members of parliament spoken with have weapons and they're going on fight on the front lines to protect their city. sandra. >> we're going to be talking to one of those, and one of the members with a weapon in her hands. and from russia to ukraine, tracks have been blown up by ukraine forces, so that the russian forces couldn't get them over. >> the russian defense ministry says that all russian units in ukraine were on saturday given the go ahead to resume their offensive from all directions after what russia says was a
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pause to potentially allow talks to happen on friday. did you see any evidence of a pause or is this just russia trying to give cover to the fact that its troops were getting bogged down by the ukraine resistance? >> this is russian propaganda. the russians from the beginning of this conflict have lied about where their forces are, what their intentions are, and their ability to negotiate a cease-fire. we have seen no pows in the -- we've seen no pause surrounding the capital city of kyiv. russian president putin says he will continue the offensive. 50% of the 190,000 troops staging on ukraine's borders are actually entering the country and participating in this conflict. the other thing to remember here is that the russians did not think they were going to face this level of resistance and it's not only here in the
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capital of kyiv, but the second largest city of kharkiv and other major population centers. people are putting up a fight and calling on the international community to provide this country with more weapons, and more air defense systems, and ukrainian president volodoymyr zelensky says he's staying in the city and he'll participate in the battle with these russians as they try to take over. >> trey, stay around and ring us up if anything moves near where you are. sandra. >> mike tobin joining us with lviv, and what are you seeing there? >> we're seeing the sun has gone down and nightfall generally as preceded fresh fighting at least since the start of the invasion and you know now with the fighting that the russian military has not made the gains with the kind of speed they had hoped for, and they came up against unexpected formidable resistance from the
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ukrainian people. and ukrainian president zelensky has taken to social media that he is still here and they are still in this fight. >> and we are successfully repelling the enemy's attacks, the fights are ongoing in many cities and districts of our country, but we know that we're defending our country, land, future of our children. >> out here in the western part of the country. what you see very much of is the flow of refugees, people trying to get to safety. here in the town of lviv, there is a bus depot crowded with people trying to get to a safe location, they have been headed largely to maldova, romania, and poland. and as you can hear there, they were alerted by the sound of air raid sirens letting them know there was danger from above and you've heard that frequently out here, like four times yesterday and twice today, the air ride sirens
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blared out here. but night has fallen. we're three hours out from the curfew in lviv, as we look out, the traffic flow, you would think the curfews in effect now. it's pretty much had a ghosttown. john and sandra. >> mike, is there anything evidence of a second wave of the russian push in ukraine to send more forces toward lviv and potentially beyond that or are you just hearing sporadic fire? >> no, well, what you saw today, as far as the russians out of this area and according to the mayor of lviv, there was an attempt to add a helicopter insertion by the russians, with three helicopters touching down about 16 miles to the east of this location. the mayor says, they were met by a ukraine fighter who were able to repel the helicopters and some 60 russian soldiers, who otherwise would have been inserted at that point. and other than that, the military activity you see out
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here primarily, ukrainian soldiers getting ready and air strikes from the russians. >> mike, what do you anticipate the next few hours look like as night is falling? >> well, unfortunately, i'm not very optimistic about the next few hours, you think that the rushes russians had an opportunity to come back and straegize, they have not made the gains that they anticipated. and you assume they'll come in heavier and less precise and more indiscriminate. i'm not optimistic for what the future holds here. >> mike, be safe, we'll check with you shortly. >> we've got new video we want to bring to the folks at home. this is in tel aviv. you see a sea of blue and yellow flags there, as israelis are marching in solidarity with ukraine. we're seeing this in so many different places, london, new
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york, tel aviv here and on the streets of moscow itself. some of the protests that erupted in russia have been met with a crackdown by police. and that's not a good image for vladimir putin to not only be going in and invading a country that he has said is filled with his brothers and then cracking down on people at home as well. we should point out, sandra, the hacker group anonymous says it's officially in a cyber war against the russian government, trying to maintain access for people there in russia to use and access social media and internet servers to find out exactly what it going on because russian state television, certainly is not allowing them to see the true scope of what the russian military is doing in ukraine. >> you look at live pictures and you see these protests happening there in tel aviv and by the way, we're told that the crowd is chanting anti-putin
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chants. demanding that the government do more. you go back to the words of that mother, that neil cavuto interviewed earlier this morning and john, i know that moved every single person that watched it, hunkered down with her little children, one as young as five months old and she said stand up all over the world and tell the leaders of your country to stand up for us, so that we can get through this. these protests are happening there in tel aviv, but i've got a list of protests happening here at home and abroad. you mentioned new york, chicago, obviously, abroad, you're seeing this in amsterdam, barcelona, mexico city, i've got a list of 25, 30 cities where these protests continue to build, and this is one example on your screen in tel aviv. and let's bring in a member of the ukrainian parliament. you saw her moments ago holding a rifle inside of her home. thank you very much for joining us, as we watch these protests
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and we watch the evening unfold there in ukraine. how are you doing and what's the latest from you? >> hello, good evening, thank you for having me. so our evening started as two previous days with the sirens, because there are air force attacks and what happened today is that 24 story building was hit by the russian rocket and thank god nobody was killed by 50 were injured. so this is one of the examples of russian lies saying, oh, we're just attacking the military forces in ukraine and we're not targeting civil yunls. civilians. i'm sure at this point it's clear for every person in the world is russia is an aggressor and they're not keeping their word and there's no other
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language they understand other than language of force, that's why kyiv citizens and that's why ukrainians are standing up arming forces and saying, oh, well, you're not getting us. you know, after two days of fighting, so many of my friends from all over the world and government officials today told me in the morning, oh, wow, you surprised us. we saw that kyiv would put down this night and i said we ukrainians have a lot of surprises, both for you, the world and for putin and his forces. >> it's john roberts here, and i appreciate you because i am married to a very tough woman named kira as well and i know how tough kiras can be. and you said earlier when you were speaking with fox and friends, that you and others want a no-fly zone imposed over ukraine, that that's really
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what you need to help defend the country. the only nations capable of mounting such a defense would be nato nations and for them to enforce a no-fly zone would draw them into the fight. so is that a request that could ever be possible? >> so, thank you for this question. we've been asking for a no-fly zone or that military support so that we could strengthen up our protections from the air, for the last six months and right now here with the situation where no additional weaponry would actually help us, and you see the russian strategy that they're creating-- their tactic is actually attacking us from the air and then going out and covering with their land troops. so we will not get any stronger
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in the next couple of weeks, so it's either we will be getting the no-fly zone from our partners or we will have like a very small chances to win if we will be fighting both land and air fights without any support from the air. and we understand right now that for nato countries, it seems impossible, but i have heard it's been impossible for the last six months and right now i already hear, okay, we will try to think about it. and i'm very sure that the question is right now, not about ukraine or nato, it's about the new security world order where it's either there will be a force that can stop putin or no force that could stop putin and then what is nato good for if they cannot stop russia from invading other
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countries. you know what putin said, that their next target will be poland and baltic countries. so what would be nato's plan after that? >> we know that the last time the president and zelensky had a conversation, biden and zelensky i should say, there was an evacuation offer made to the ukraine president to which he said i need ammunition not a ride. the u.s. instructed the state department to release additional $350 million worth of weapons and our secretary of state blinken called it unprecedented the amount we're releasing to your nation, we know what you've been asking for and other nations or on board, belgium, france, are stepping netherlands. are you optimistic your nation are getting what they need to fight back? >> so, first of all, i'm super thankful to all nations the
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world for supporting us right now, by words, by money, by sympathy, by weaponry, by political support, it all means really a lot for every ukrainian to know that we're not alone and we are fighting in north russia and ukraine, good guys versus bad guys with the hope that the good guys always win and we totally would need more because you see that the fight between ukraine and russia is this david versus goliath fight that we need a lot of morale and crazy brave people fighting this fight, but i'm optimistic that we can win. you see putin expected a blitzkrieg and he failed to have that and that's why he was not able to get any major city in ukraine, any large city. he failed everywhere. so he will try and get here in
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the nearest days and why we think we need to stay on be on for maybe another five to six days, once he would understand that it would cost him too much. now, it's 3,000 people being killed by ukrainian forces for the last two days. 3,000 russians. so it's more than russia lost in any of its war for the last 10 years. so if there will be another thousand russians killed every day, at some point putin will notable able to sustain bringing more and more people. and this is something that we can do, this is something that we have as a goal, make sure that people who are coming to our land with guns in their arms, come back in plastic bags. and send their regards to putin
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not to do it and not to repeat it. >> it's good to spend time with you. we hope that you stay safe there and we'll get back to you and check on you in the hours ahead to see how things are going there. we appreciate your time, thank you. >> thank you. we're now joined by elena, a mother currently in a bomb shelter in kyiv. i saw you on a couple of hours ago with our colleague neil cavuto as you spoke to him about the situation there in the bomb shelter. give our viewers an update on what you're looking at, who is there, what the conditions are, how you're surviving. >> hello, we are right now in the bomb shelter. i want you to see all of these people who are right now sitting in this room with us. while we're hearing explosions and basically started, and many of our men, our husbands, our
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brothers, are over there. my husband is there fighting with russians, too. and this is our daughter. she's four months old. this is my daughter, say hello. >> hello. >> how are you. >> so sweet. >> and she's seven and she's reading a book and this is my son. we are people like all other people, yes, and we want to live. we want to live in a peaceful country. we do not want to fight. our husbands didn't want to fight, but they came on our land and they are killing us. and we need help. please help us. >> okay. what are you doing about food and taking care of the kids? >> what are we doing. here is our common kitchen. ukrainian brown bread and, i'm
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worried my husband can be killed now and this is our national dish and just some porridge for children and, but we're not prepared because we did not expect this to happen. so we don't have a lot of food. we have the food for like maybe one day, two. and they said wii monday, maybe. we can wait. yes. it's not a problem. we can be hungry for some time. food doesn't mean anything to us. you know, we just want our men, our women to stay alive. our children to be arrive. food is either case. and basically the supermarkets, we have people who in this very strange situation, they keep working, yes, they said the market was open today for a couple of hours and people with
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what was available and not very much is left next to our bomb shelter. there was only one pharmacy working and i was-- because there are important medications and otherwise she would be out of breath, so, and i'm grateful to that woman who worked in this very dangerous situation to sell drugs and medication. she saved the life of this girl and now she's breathing. and some of the people said that, yes, yes, what did you want to ask? >> the amount of time that you and your fellow ukrainians are going to have to spend in there is clearly going to create a tremendous hardship for everyone with you in that shelter. i wanted to ask you about the shelter itself. is that an official bomb shelter? are you just in the basement of a building? without giving away the location clearly can you describe the type of
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infrastructure that you're in? >> let me just describe the type of structure that we have for the bomb shelter and i investigated them. i won't describe in particular i don't want to put them in danger many people are watching us. what a typical bomb schetter. this is just basement of the building. just basement. and this is how it looks. it's not the only one and there you have more children, more people here, yes. we are on the chairs and floors and there is another corridor, yes. so it's not a fancy place bomb shelter, it's just a basement of a building and some of them do not have even the normal floor so we today, most of the basements they have just sand on the floor and there are no toilets. my sister is the deputy director at school and she's
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the one responsible for the basement at her school and there are people and children, and they don't have even toilets. running water in the basement. we were not prepared for the war. we didn't expect it to happen. tts really crazy, how can you be attacked like this if you didn't do anything wrong? we were not attacking anyone and they came into our land and started-- we need help. >> are you in touch with your husband at all who is out fighting? >> for ten seconds, i think. he said-- some things because he loves
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her very much and he said goodbye and a couple of hours ago and i hope i will see him again, okay? and i want-- i have a feeling that putin wants to just kill as many ukrainians as possible because he realizes right now he will not conquer us. we have a very strong spirit here, we need freedom. we will not displace, and clearly realizes it now so what he will try to do, he will try to kill the majority of ukrainians like 60% and 40% of people who left and hiding and not fighting. he'll seek to control them, but it's better to prevent it because after this, if putin is not stopped here, he will go further. he will go to poland. he will go to the baltic states and he will not stop here. after genocide in ukraine he
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will attack more countries. a guy like hitler will not stop until he's stopped by force and we need force because he doesn't understand the language of diplomacy. you see. i have to be more quiet, i'm sorry, because, yes, because he was saying that-- let's talk about peace, we are diplomatic and we have the military training and what happens next, he lied to all of you, to all the world leaders to all the people, he's laughing at your faces and he does whatever he wants. it's not a person with whom you can deal because he will say okay, and afterward he will just start killing again. so he doesn't understand this word of negotiations. he's not a civilized person like we ukrainians, like you guys, he only understands the language of force and you have to understand this now because it will be too late. you will be involved.
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stop the war right now while it's happening on the territory of ukraine. don't let them come to homes. and come, please. >> an impassioned plea from olena gnes, to leaders of the world. and we'll let you go to have time with your children. >> thank you, you're welcome, goodbye i've spent time israeli bomb shelter and i can't imagine staying in one for days. jacqui: that baby is just five months old.
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>> pro ukraine rallies
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happening across the globe and even here in the united states. the one on the left just outside the white house and again, you see the blue and yellow flags of ukraine on the right. and we see people who are protesting in favor of ukraine in the city of atlanta, in georgia. and there are global protests everywhere from amsterdam to budapest to edinboro, ottawa, paris, stockholm, sydney, taipei, vienna, just about everywhere you can imagine, sandra. people are coming out to the streets to support ukraine, against russia and we're seeing a lot of these protests as well. in the streets of russia. and every once in a while we see protesters being dragged off by police in russia, it's clearly vladimir putin doesn't want that message to get pout. >> i mean, we've got the list in front of us, protests like this happening all over the world, all over the country and all over the world. amsterdam, barcelona, beirut,
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berlin, brussels. it's a lengthy list and it's growing, john. former russia poroshenko sending a warning to vladimir putin and his troops. >> today in the kyiv, putin will meet hell and the russian people and the russian soldiers who come here to kill ukrainians will pay the big price, but we should understand that this war is not about ukraine. this war is about-- it's about the west, it's about free world because everybody-- nobody knows where tomorrow will appear putin. that's why your contribution to the putin aggression is vital for us ukraine, we're standing two kilometers.
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sandra: i might have said the former russian president. the former ukrainian president sending a message to the current russian president vladimir putin. obviously, john, this is st. petersburg, russia on the left side of the screen and image all over the world. that's st. petersburg. putin will meet hell, you heard poroshenko. john: the fact that they're trying to quell the riots in russia, putin has had a message to the russian people in stark contradiction to the streets. people are coming out in moscow, st. petersburg and other cities across russia to protest saying we don't want war, why are we attacking ukraine. putin has some reasons to do and he he doesn't want any counter narrative to that. and poroshenko the ukrainian president in 2019 signed the
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resolution from the parliament, declaring that ukraine wanted to become a part of n.a.t.o. and that's what's triggered this with putin saying nato will never ever be at his doorstep particularly in ukraine which is why he's trying to gain back control. now to the white house, where jacqui heinrich has the latest for us, as we can hear the protests in the background. >> a couple hundred people outside the white house chanting, we stand with ukraine, it is a growing crowd and growing in size of the last few hours or so, the president is not here at the white house, he is in wilmington for a memorial service for a family member, but didn't stop him from overnight authorizing $350 million worth of weapons to be sent to the ukraine to help in their defense. it comes as members of parliament have been lobbying the white house, lobbying congress for basic necessities, things like helmets, as well as small arms and various munitions, but ukrainians are
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pushing for two major things, they want a no-fly zone over ukraine and russia to be blocked from the swift international banking system. although the u.s. has imposed sanctions on russian president vladimir putin and top members of his government, the ukrainian parliament liaison to the international community laid out to fox news, a list of reasons why they say what the white house has done so far is not enough and they have those two major outstanding requests on the no-fly zone and on swift. the liaison tells fox, these sanctions will not have a significant impact on vladimir putin and what he's doing today in ukraine. sanctions are officially not due to come into effect until march 26th, 2022. some experts, for example, a former official at atlanta counsel are arguing that the sanctions may take years to impact the russian economy. they're asking to establish a
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tribunal to prosecute putin for war crimes and crimes against humanity and stronger sanctions against putin, including russians central bank and companies, and they want to expand a list of individuals for personal sanctions and lobbying for maximum military assistance, including anti-aircraft, and air defense missiles, javelins, protective gear and want no-fly zone over ukraine and swift, russia off the swift international payment system and lobbying for ukraine to join the eu and nato as well as ban trading with all russian energy companies and impose economic counter measures against belarus, saying that they are fully complicit in what russia is doing right now. so it's very unlikely at this time the u.s. and allies will move forward with the no-fly zone because that would require that the u.s. and nato shoot down russian war planes and that would be seen as a dramatic escalation. and that's highly unlikely that
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will come to pass at least the way things stand right now, but swift may well become reality. there had been some opposition essentially from germany and italy because of concern about spillover impact to neighboring economies, but european allies seemed to have warmed to the idea. italy saying they support removing russia from swift, which was one of the two. in the meantime, the white house has asked for congress to supply ukraine with 6.4 billion in humanitarian aid while everyone waits to see what's going to happen next with swift. sandra: city with me for a second. there's a lot crossing on reuters without a lot of context and bring it to the viewers as it's coming in. this is crossing right know the ukrainian president zelensky saying the readiness of the ukrainian people of the country broke scenario of occupation. we'll fight as long as it takes to liberate this country and
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says he's grateful for everyone for decision to cut off russia from swift. we know obviously that was open and that the president said he was considering that, but no decision was final, but that would indicate, perhaps there's been some messaging to him on that that russian has now been isolated from the financial messaging system. so we're trying to get some context on this and also a brand new statement crossing the wire right now from president biden, jacqui, without context we're told he just gave an interview on some sort of podcast, but he said that the comments from finland and sweden about possibly joining nato show how putin has miscalculated the reaction to the ukrainian invasion. so, this is an interview with brian tyler cohen, that just took place. so interesting statement from zelensky about swift. i don't know if we can draw any conclusions from that, but we're trying to get more
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context. >> it might be too soon to confirm that right now. certainly i would read floo into it the same way you did. the white house said swift is on the table and we never took it off the table and we want today act with european allies, italy and germany blocking that as least this morning. italy had come around to the idea and germany was sort of alone and isolated in opposition, but as we've seen, the european community rallying around ukraine has moved germany to move on some of the other decisions, and they, in fact, just supported military aid to ukraine, which they had previously, because of their own laws, avoided doing. so, as things have escalated, germany has moved on a couple of the things that they have been firm on. and to your point about the european unity rallying around zelensky and ukrainians, we saw as early as this morning, hungary coming out and
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condemning what has happened with putin and russia, and russia has lost its allies in the east. and you've seen condemnation coming from all corners of the globe, so it's true when the white house says look, you know, the nato alliance has been strengthened, ukraine has been strengthened in its uniform condemnation of what has happened, the international community is rushing to its side and you're seeing putin become more and more isolated and become more of a pariah, as he has pursued this aggression. sandra: okay, jacqui, we and our team at fox news are trying to confirm those statements coming from the ukrainian president zelensky. obviously it would be a big deal if he's been told a decision was been made for the international community to cut russia from swift. we'll bring that to our viewers when we learn more.
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the balance here is a big one, obviously because so many of those european countries involved are dependent on that financial messaging system, to pay in particular, russia for their energy needs. president joe biden said at the white house this past week, when he issued those sanctions, the more specific sanctions, he said in total, we're stricter on vladimir putin than isolating him and his country from the swift banking system. so, going in this direction could be an admission that this was actually needed. we'll learn more shortly. final thought from the white house, jacqui. >> yeah, it will certainly be a significant option, i mean, you look alt at countries, banned from swift, north korea and iran. this is not taken lightly. this is a nuclear option. the white house said there are other way toss effectively punish russia for aggressions and looking at options removing
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certain entities from the banks and russia economy, but you need full agreement among the nato allies and the u.s. does not control swift so this has to be a firmly agreed upon, but the international community for it to be effective and people have to be prepared for this swillover impact that we might see, especially when it comes to exposure on the energy sector. italy and germany in particular were hesitant because they would feel pain at the pump and that's a reality that a lot of countries are going to face, but this aggression has to be responded to. sandra: and obviously, there's also concern, we've heard some analysts say in recent days on that balance of removing russia from swift, that if putin was removed from there that he would seek other messaging. as bloomberg put it yesterday. to explain this to people who
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have knowledgeable until the recent days, it's essentially the gmail of the global banking system. certainly something to think about there and it's been hotly debated whether or not russia should be there. and we're told president biden's interview on the podcast as it happens, we'll get that information when we have it. john. john: we should remind our viewers as well. earlier today, president zelenskyy, the straits from transit for russian warships. that turns out that wasn't the case, it's a request from zelenskyy. we'll see where the swift issue goes as well. one thing that's happening though, governor chris sununu, this morning i had an order to remove russian made and russian branded spirits from our
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outlets until further notice and new hampshire stands with the ukraine. they'll be drinking tito's for a while. and a couple of developments that i wanted to go over with you, general, and first is that the ukrainian interior minister says that russian forces are closing. on a nuclear power station, which is in the south of the country just north of crimea. there are also russian claims that they have taken the city in the south again, a part of the attack from crimea however, ukrainian officials say that's not the case. what we know, general, russians control approximately this area in here, north of kyiv, and then further to the northeast, north of kharkiv, they control that area and they obviously control this area here in the ofdonba s and north of crimea,
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but not much other than that, are you surprised that rusia hasn't taken over large swath, with the forces in belarus, numbering 150 to 190,000? >> yeah, john, i am. there's an old axiom, it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. and you're seeing the leadership of zelenskyy. i think that putin is losing and russia is losing. his first lines against ukrainians and that's why the world is rallying, they're seeing them fighting for their homeland and president zelenskyy say i don't need a ride, i need ammunition. and i think that putin has a problem now. 's he going to be on the losing end of it and may throw more
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forces at it and take the city of kyiv by sear numbers, but the occupation of that country now, they'll fight back, an urgency, we could help that, as well. and i think if the soviet union thought afghanistan was bad putin better look at ukraine, it's going to be hornet's nest. and i think he's lost this war. and it's stunning to me, when i looked at the force and numbers he had, his first line units, 170,000, all of his air, throwing him against ukraine. and they're standing up to him. i think the world is stunned by it and i'm glad everybody's pushing back. john: let me just bring us to a map that's closer in on the capital city of kyiv. we do know that russian forces have been held to about 17 miles outside of the downtown area, and i'm not sure if this is exactly to scale. this here is an apartment building hit by rocket fragments the other day. the apartment building hit by
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the missile is closer over here to sikorsky airport which is one of two airports that serve the greater kyiv area. there's, of course, up here further, the airport which is one that russia has been trying to get control of, so it could start paratroopers and other forces for the assault on kyiv, but the fact that they haven't gotten further into kyiv i think is a testament, general, to the determination of ukrainian forls toss-- forces to resist. we've got to jump out of this. sandra: we have trey yingst standing by and you're reporting air raid sirens, trey. >> moments ago, air raid sirens in the ukrainian capital of kyiv, the first that we've heard in hours, this is significant because last night we saw fighting erupt in the city, as these air raid sirens were going off. we did hear at least one explosion in the distance right now, indicating that the sirens
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were trying to warn people in the city of this incoming fire. we've heard this often since this conflict erupted earlier in the week. but now that we have the small arms fire in play, and much of the population underground, the sires are just in place again to let people know there could be incoming fire. the video we showed you earlier in the day of that apartment complex getting hit by a russian missile, really underlines how dangerous some of these russian strikes can be. no one was killed in that incident, but there have been deaths reported today in ukraine, and the concern is that this population of nearly three million people will once again be in the cross-fire tonight as the russians continue their ground and air campaign against the ukrainian capital. john: we've seen this repeated day after day in the early going of this conflict. and that you see a lot of ground force movements during the day and then bombardment at night. this would seem to follow that
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pattern, yes? >> absolutely. and the reports indicate that the fighting we've seen in the streets of kyiv over the past 24 hours, this is coming from reconnaissance groups by the russian forces who are sending them into the city for two reasons, really, to start this forward progression and also to gather information on how much resistance the broader group of troops will face once they make it into kyiv. remember, this is not just coming from one direction, while some of the forces have come from the north, there are reports indicating russian paratroopers are landing south of the city and also trying to push in from the northeastern side where kharkiv, the second largest ukrainian city is located. we've seen the xrae expressionway coming in litter with depred. resistance from not only from the army, but civilians, using
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everything they have. if they don't have weapons, molotov cocktails. and yesterday, there were instructions how to make molotov cocktails in churches and police stations, trying to fight off the forces understanding it's not just an aerial campaign it's urban warfare as we see the images throughout the day in the streets of kyiv. sandra: trey, right now reuters news agency quoting britain defense ministry saying that the russian advance happening to ukraine temporarily slowed probably because of problems and resistance. and we've heard president zelenskyy who recent made comments, and we are tracking down how he made the comments and reported by reuters, but we're trying to confirm whether or not there's been a decision
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made to remove russia from swift. zelenskyy on the wire says he's grateful to everyone for cutting off russia from swift and we'll learn how putin responds in the coming minutes and hours. >> absolutely, the swift banking system and removing russia's ability to use it was largely considered one of the heaviest economic sanctions that could be levied on moscow. and there's on the ground, point of no return, russian troops in the sovereign neighboring country of ukraine. president putin is threatening nato countries and we know there's a real concern of a decision that he could make to move even further west and so, i think right now, what we're seeing by the international community is first the heaviest sanctions they can place on
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president putin, his inner circle and even his foreign minister, sergey lavrov and then you'll see more weapons flowing into the country. how will they get here? they believe they'll find a way. you're going to see not only anti-tank systems, anti-aircraft systems, but the air defense is really going to be the biggest focus because the big question here is whether or not the skies will be controlled by the russians, but so far, the ukrainians have reportedly been successful shooting down not only planes, but attack helicopters though they'll try to push into the city from both the ground and air. john: trey yingst for us with the latest from kyiv. we're looking now on the left-hand side of your screen, st. petersburg, we're told. we know that there are pro ukraine rallies going on in st. petersburg. there was a large police presence there as well which
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seems to be in numbers about equal to to the number of protesters that we've been seeing there. vladimir putin making sure that there is no counter narrative to his narrative. the ukraine had to be invaded because we're seeing so many protests in st. petersburg and other russian cities and around the world people saying no, we're not going to stand for this. looks like the police are taking up a line to stop them from going in. >> and a number of protesters outside the white house as well. families across kyiv into shelters and subway stations for another sleepiness night and doing what they can to lift each other's spirits. john: even though they don't know when they'll go home or whether they'll have a home to go back to. students coming together to sing songs. ahead. they replaced the glad recalibrated my safety system.
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>> fox news alert. a brand-new hour of this, kyiv under extended curfew after a third day of explosions and gunfire and streetfighting as russian forces breach the capital city. good to spend another hour with you on this saturday. >> ukrainian forces battling to regain control of kyiv streets as russia's military continues its land, sea and air attacks.
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thousands of ukrainians have fled to neighboring countries but those who stayed behind are holding strong in defense of their homeland. >> all the political leaders through the world -- watch out, we did not. >> we have one anticipation, to protect our freedom. some of us guard rifles and we will stop them. >> something, he is killing us instead of bringing peace to ukraine. >> stop him. >> john: we begin with lucas tomlinson. what is going on? >> reporter: for the first
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time, air raid sirens at night and some heading for shelters going underground, two hours from curfew after warning russian agents, saboteurs could be coming to this city, doing violence and blowing things up. i spoke to a young man just before coming on air who said not an hour goes by that he doesn't think about fleeing the city at his two young children, thinks he should send them to the border. he is a military aged male. president zelenskyy says no one can leave, many nervous people on the ground. i spoke to an old lady who was in tears while walking on the street. they are tough and resilient, intelligence reports from us and british officials say
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ukrainian resistance is helping slow the russian advance. closing in on the capital. russian high commander, sending it defensively overhead. martha: you heard from the mother pleading stop him, stop vladimir putin from the bomb shelter. we know what we heard from the ukrainian people, they want stricter sanctions, more weapons. what specifically are you hearing from those on the ground and what will help? >> reporter: they want antitank missiles, anti-aircraft missiles that had great effect against soviet forces and the afghan war the 80s.
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could not come fast enough. half of the russian forces on the board are in this country. they are hampered by logistics concerns. russian forces are banning tanks, armored personnel carriers and surface to air missile launchers. some are getting blown up. we've seen men, will amend and children making molotov cocktails getting ready for a guerrilla war. suddenly 150 or 200,000 russian troops, it is one thing but to occupy is another story. people are very nervous or scared and angry. sandra: the german government said it will supply 1000
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antitank weapons as you described from german army stock to support ukraine saying the weapons will be delivered as soon as possible. just now crossing. >> reporter: in 2014 when russian sources invaded crimea and eastern ukraine, they were using rpgs, the antitank missile will destroy the tank. they destroyed dozens of russian tanks for russian soldiers but cannot confirm that. when russians went into syria, they lost 100 troops in the last seven years, lost four times that in the last 48 hours, vicious fighting on the ground in ukraine and up resistance was we are on day 3,
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long way to go. sandra: we will check with you shortly. john: live in kyiv, we lost your signal but things seem to be all right. we heard sandra, germany will be sending stinker missiles and 1000 antitank missiles, 400 rpgs germany citizenship through a foreign country. the czech republic, really interesting development on germany's part because for weeks leading up to this conflict said its constitution prohibits it from giving lethal weapons to ukraine. increased pressure to take financial action against russia in the form of banning it from the swift banking system.
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poland's prime minister tweeted russia is no longer a reliable business partner, its credibility is gone. the junk rating and downgrading of bonds are a natural consequence. rating agencies, what are you waiting for? russia must be cut off from financial markets. and pleased to cut off russia from the swift banking system and pressure is mounting on 2 of those three fronts. the ukrainian government is getting what it has been calling for for weeks and couldn't achieve. >> reporter: you can hear in the distance the explosions continue. the question is how quickly this will take place. there are countries committing weapons they say they will send it to ukraine.
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a lot of logistical nightmares to get them here. my colleague, lucas, is reporting sirens, russian senators in the western city. that was considered when the conflict started a safe place. western countries move there embassies. the united states, the big one. the fact is they are targeting the city as well. the entire country of ukraine is in the fight of the russian military. if they get these stinker missiles or antitank missiles over the border, there are questions who will transport them into the country and will the russians target those convoys? it raises the question, could nato countries are supplying weapons to the ukrainian military be targeted by the russians? nothing is off the table for vladimir putin. that's why you see american
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forces bolstering their eastern nato presence and part of the reason you see this concern from the international community at the highest levels politically and even religiously. reports of the pope pleading with the russian ambassador to stop this offensive. there are no indications it will take place but the world is putting pressure on president putin not only the form of these financial pressures like the swift banking system and the sanctions against his inner circle and the children of the russian oligarchs but also things like football matches. and their commercial airlines and the ability of russian planes to fly across europe. the world is trying to pressure russia from all angles but fighting continues on the ground was whether or not this changes vladimir putin's behavior it is too early to know about the pressure is there and the ukrainians are
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asking for more military equipment to continue their fight against these troops. >> the logistical issues of getting over the border. into the hands of civilian fighters. >> reporter: absolutely, fierce battles in the streets of kyiv, we have a piece we shot earlier. we see what it looks like in the streets of this city the morning after a major battle. fierce fighting erupted between ukrainian army and russian forces, this truck is riddled with bullet holes on the sidewalk. the russian missile slammed into this building in the ukrainian capital of kyiv. right now ukraine is appealing to the international community to send air defense as the
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country is under attack. there is blood in the streets of the ukrainian capital, no time to waste to see if sanctions work. ukrainians are pleading with the international community, stinker missiles and javelin antitank missiles are picking up arms, civilians heading to local police stations, and graphics on the internet teaching people to make molotov cocktails. how to make any defensive item, to use the city. to give a sense of how committed the ukrainian people are to fight this offensive. president putin and the russian military is surprised how much resistance they have seen fighting in ukraine the last 3 days.
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this battle is not over. you see president zelenskyy still in the capital, the mayor of kyiv still in the capital and they will be on the frontlines to protect the city. this is extremely important, it is easy to get consumed by cruise missiles and bullets but the civilian population is at risk. 3 million people in the capital city across ukraine, there are civilians amid the crossfire. we have to remember that. sandra: jackie heinrich followed up on some reporting that the united states gotten on board. the nsc is not confirming russia is blocked despite putting germany lifted its opposition to it and ukrainian
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foreign minister was told it would happen. she will have an update on it. thank you very much. john: the president of ukraine, vladimir zelenskyy is busy putting out messages. a video we are trying to get out, in which he welcomes proposals by turkey to hold p stocks with russia. his country is lacking oil, and oil product. we have to look at these pronouncements from zelenskyy with caution but he did say earlier today the turkish president agreed to shut a transit of russian warships, some of this may be more of a wish list. we will clearly see as the hours go on. the latest headlines, radiation levels spiking near the site of
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the chernobyl nuclear disaster after russian troops seized control. the regulatory inspector saying gamma radiation exceeded the agency said the condition of chernobyl's nuclear facility remains unchanged. the rising radiation is believed to be due to heavy military machinery stirring contaminated soil. on the nuclear front, and advisor to the interior minister says russian troops are approaching the zapper rita --zaparija nuclear plant. sandra: facebook is banned from monetizing content on its platform. the new restrictions apply around the world and the move came hours after twitter announced it is halting all advertising in russia and ukraine. dramatic video and images of the brutal invasion go viral, the kremlin has blocked access
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to twitter for users in russia limiting the free flow of information. amy kellogg has the latest on that. >> reporter: there are a lot of crackdowns. russia does not call it a war or an invasion of ukraine. they call it a special literary operation and sent out strict warnings to the few independent media outlets that exist here telling them they must not use war or invasion. those warnings have gone unheeded. it is a different narrative from moscow. state television shows a different story of what is going on. it is diametrically opposed. i want to show you footage russian tv was saying, ukrainian soldiers surrendered and how they were treated so well, they were given food and
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water. they were put on buses heading home to their families. that may be the case, those are pictures of what is going on. that is not the story we are seeing when we get images out of ukraine and we've seen pictures one by one on social media of russian soldiers being held captive, prisoners of war in ukraine. and the situation is very different. they are being sought by their mothers and families who have no idea where they are. a lot of soldiers and it up in russia not knowing where they were going, believing the story they were doing exercises on the border with ukraine until they were deployed to go. scott francis's family. the committee for soldiers mothers, if their kids have been taken hostage.
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we have some footage, and interview from one of the few independent news channels in russia, and interview with the father of one young man, one man taken prisoner of war in ukraine and here is what he had to say. >> translator: why are the sons of oligarchs not calling that. >> reporter: we are getting different narratives. they are not attacking civilian centers not trying to do ukraine, they talk about neo-nazis. the ukrainian surrender. a morass that is going on for
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these russian soldiers. apparently didn't know they were going or what they thought they were up to when massing in such numbers. they are very young, many of them. it is possible they were following orders and not asking questions. in terms of how people are feeling about it, we've seen footage of demonstrations. those are banned in russia. anyone who steps out know they are likely to be arrested. 300 people arrested around the country. our understanding is many of them particularly in moscow were picked up one by one as they had toward the central square of pushkin. it is assumed they are heading there for that purpose so it's not a chance to gather in many cases as they head out and there are lots of police cars
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and vans, prepared for demonstrations. many people are starting to come out on social media, this game of cat and mouse, being restricted here but authors and people in the public eye, actors, people in the film world saying they don't want this war and signing open letters and have been warned they could be charged at with betrayal of the motherland. this is touching a lot of people here who are not only ashamed but sad and scared. they don't like to see a war going on anywhere, certainly not against their sovereign brothers and sisters but they don't want to think they will turn into iran or north korea. sandra: these are protests in st. petersburg where we see arrests being made.
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those individuals being put into vans and taken away. we will monitor the situation in russia. thank you. john: a couple other developments. latvia and lithuania closing their airspace to russian airlines. the fact lithuania is doing it is significant because over flying lithuania is the most route from russia to the russian enclave of kalningrad. that is going to further inconvenience people and make us pressure to be brought to bear on vladimir putin but that will take a while to get people up in arms. let's bring in dan hoffman who spent 5 years here. let me put up on screen a map of the area of ukraine that
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russia controls, crimea has long been in russian hands and they've begun to spread out. they've got more territory but if you take a look at the northern part of ukraine, to the west and chernobyl toward kyiv and to the northeast of chernobyl, they hold slivers of land despite the fact they have 150,000 troops en masse along the border. if you are vladimir putin, are you looking at this in saying this is not working the way i thought it was going to and does that make him more dangerous? >> reporter: the russian military challenges, they've got long supply lines that we've seen the logistical challenges involved, large ukrainian cities where they don't own the battle space. i would say they won't ever
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given the likelihood of a real guerrilla war the we are going to see. we've got major rivers that are difficult to cross as well. for someone his formative experience was the director of russian security police, they are arresting russian protesters. vladimir putin's background, this is an extraordinary intelligence failure on his part. these are things the russian military intelligence would have prepared for. you can argue 190,000 troops is not enough to secure ukraine. it has not been enough to decapitate the ukrainian government. he is facing protests at home. there have to be questions, their leader sent them to fight this fight against ukrainian innocent civilians.
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the question is when does putin, and remember the kgb, failed against gorbachev, putin's old coterie of intelligence officers. these are all questions, questions president biden, state department and us military. >> with the secretary-general, the determination, he informed the president that the un would launch tuesday and appeal humanitarian operations in ukraine. the news on germany's latest move and their announcement of 1000 antitank missiles to
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ukraine to determine russian tanks, 500 shoulder fired stinkers to shoot down russian gunships. german chancellor shultz put out a statement that the russian attack marks a turning point. it is our duty to help ukraine defend against the invading army of vladimir putin. we are supplying antitank weapons and missiles to our friends in ukraine. having a development is this and could this speed along ukraine's ability to fight back? >> absolutely. these are the things ukraine needs. your piece from the bomb shelter was so poignant, food and water, in a war zone where supply lines are cut and ukraine needs javelins and patriot air defense and anti-ship missiles.
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i wish we had provided these things in april, 70,000 troops on the border but at least we will get into the fight now and stand up for ukraine, stand up for democracy against this. john: in terms of lethal aid to ukraine finland is the latest to tell jackie heinrich finland is preparing as the eu to block commercial russian flight and economic sanctions. he made a decision that even though he's not a member of nato is going through with the european union at least to support and defend ukraine. >> reporter: viewers will recall vladimir putin's praise and threat to the west not to become in the conflict, those who support ukraine with little
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assistance would pay the ultimate price. nations, the baltic states, finland, germany and our own, the united states is stepping up. we are standing up for ukraine in their time of need. more than we could have done, that history will be written later. sandra: continuing coverage of the attack on ukraine. thank you for joining us with a fox news alert. france has seized a cargo ship in the english channel. one that was linked to the son of a former russian spy chief. one of first displays of the west and forcing sanctions on moscow. the baltic leader was headed for st. petersburg but diverted to northern france which
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russian officials will send a note of protests to the french foreign ministry. john: coverage will roll on. families racing from their homes, packing up their children, and belongings they can manage, not just of a better life but any life at all. the united nations reports 150,000 ukrainian refugees left home in the last few days since the war started. live coverage will continue on fox on america reports, special edition.
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john: ukrainian soldier made the ultimate sacrifice in a brave effort to stop enemy forces. officials say the marine
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battalion engineer was stationed in southern province, a strategic point between russian occupied crimea and the mainland which is our russian tanks operation, he blue of a bridge, giving up his own life to keep those tanks from advancing. a story of heroism as ukrainians battle to resist the russian onslaught. sandra: the ukrainian president continues to hail those heroes that are getting in the way of a further advancing kyiv. we are 7 hours ahead. joining us is all of who is in the united states with her children. her husband escaped to romania. thank you for joining us as we follow the latest balance which appears ukrainian forces, we are watching live in kyiv where more sirens went off a short time ago. thousands of civilians are taking up arms to defend the capital.
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your thoughts in this moment. >> thank you for having me. i am continuously on the phone texting with family and friends who are currently in our house. my husband is not there physically. working and supporting his team in ukraine. talking to family and friends, extremely grateful for the support from all the world. they feel the moral support. it is just urgent they get more military equipment in the no-fly zone to continue their fight on the ground because they are not asking for anybody to fight their fight, to continue to be the anchor for
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democracy in europe because we know vladimir putin will not stop in ukraine. this is about a free world. john: you have lived in kyiv for 25 years, established a network of friends. one of those friends telling you as they stay behind to whether this onslaught from the russian military. >> they are saying, they have a very positive fighting morale going on. not everybody was loyal to the government prior to this but ukrainians are proud of president zelenskyy who is turning out to be quite a hero in support of ukraine. sandra: so many ukrainians are standing up to fight in this moment.
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in a shelter with little babies, they want the world to know what this country is about. what is your message to the world. they are pushing back vladimir putin's actions. >> we moved there 25 years ago, watched the country develop into a 3, sovereign, democratic country with amazing people. to see how strong the spirit is. they have the ultimate power because it is true freedom they are fighting for. they are so grateful for the support.
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the no fly sewn so they continue their fight on the ground, for europe and the world. sandra: our thoughts are with those in harm's wa >> thank you for having me. john: the attorney general keith kellogg, fox news contributor. i want to ask about something that sparked an alert in southeastern section that russian forces that have come through crimea this way have approached zapparija nuclear power plant, it is still ukrainian hands. russian forces control the old
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chernobyl nuclear facility which is mothballed and gone off-line. russian forces try to capture these nuclear sites in ukraine. >> thanks. it seems to me there are four their sites to go through. they captured sites that prohibit ukrainians, and makes no sense to me militarily. they are trying to take them to cut down power. the real concern i would have on it, the latest concern is where those troops go, a huge eastern part to connect crimea with a breakaway republics. makes sense what we are doing?
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overall very candidly it looks like they are failing at every significant level. of letter putin made a big mistake. he forgot how to wage war. it sounds cruel. he is coming at this incrementally. when he went in initially he always used pre-heavy cyber attacks in 2008 and 2014. he didn't do it. lights have still been on. zelenskyy has been on the air. he didn't take the measures a strong military man, thank god for that. he is not waging war. he tried to wage it in the price war. i believe this. this happens for another apple days. he needs to hire some more bodyguards. his regime is in real trouble. he is already a pariah. his nation is a pariah nation.
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i don't think he will continue. if he loses this more it will be a stunning development for the country of russia. john: the increase in weapons flowing into ukraine. into ukraine, through poland, into ukraine, finland is not a nato nation. what do you make of the fact that germany will, by itself, the czech republic put 1000 antitank weapons and stinker missiles into ukraine. that is a lot of lethal weaponry that will be flowing into ukraine if they can get it across the border, what do you make of this development? particularly that germany, we can send legal aid to ukraine
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because of our constitution. dropping those conditions and sending weapons in. >> welcome to the game. it is time they got involved. an important message. the real lacquer has been germany in funding and development of their military, and joint chiefs of staff. just the other day on a fox news article, said that his military can't function. it is worthless. it is a significant indication they realize where they've been in the last few years. for vladimir putin he is realizing if you can get germany on board, the next step will be economic issues and a hard call on weaponry and what if they take a hard call on energy and say we don't need your energy and if you want to
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cripple russia, you have all the european union say we are going to look elsewhere and shutdown pipelines of energy and that is when russia has a significant economic or diplomatic as well. john: these are the pipelines coming in to western europe from russia. you have nordstream canceled. always pipelines coming in and if these nations were to say we won't take anymore russian oil and gas that would cut off a huge slice of the revenue. vladimir zelenskyy reacting to 500 stinger missiles saying germany announced provision antitank grenade launchers and stinker missiles to ukraine, keep it up. good to spend time with you.
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thanks for the analysis. sandra: we are watching every minute of the developments. ukrainians fighting for their country showing enormous courage, fighting back against aggression, they are modern day he rose. new satellite images provided by image international. varies pictures will show you across the airport, kyiv, lines of cars to romania and poland. we will show an indication of no damage to the airport. it is blocked. vehicle's blocking the runway in these photos and no significant damage to some of the buildings and bridges in kyiv. the borders with romania and poland aligned with cars. satellite images as reuters is reporting and crossing the wire, ukraine presidential advisor says russian attack on
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kyiv is not advancing. presidential advisor says 3500 russian soldiers were killed and injured to. these are the latest developments coming from there. president biden made some comments and gave an interview a short time ago. what did we hear from president biden? >> reporter: we are hearing the white house perspective on these new sanctions and there's been a lot of discussion whether they block russia from the swift international banking system, to everything it needs to operate. it is known as the most punishing option and there has been opposition from germany and italy to take that action because it could have a spillover effect on neighboring economies. italy and germany reporting they've moved away from their
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opposition in the white house is saying as long as there is agreement among the allies that option remains on the table. we were told by the national security council they have nothing to add. there have been some rumblings out there, the foreign minister was told that might happen but we are not confirming that is moving forward. the white house staying mum on this. what do we expect to hear about that? the "nuclear option" the white house the table. in this interview the president talked about the sanctions put forward targeting the russian president, top government officials, this is drastically different from anything that has been imposed on russia in the face of aggression in 2008, and 2014. >> president biden: nothing like this. you have two options. start a third world war, go to
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war with russia, or 2, make sure a country that actss so contrary to international law pays a price for having done it. there is no sanction that is immediate. not like you can sanction someone and say you are no longer going to be the president of russia. >> reporter: no sanction is immediate. it is important to listen to that. there's been a lot of scrutiny to the question of whether the sanctions will be enough, they were not enough to deter putin but is it enough to stop him from moving further? we have not had enough of a window to see the full impact on the russian economy yet. we saw the ruble and their economy tanking in the last couple days. this would only ratchet up as the impact starts to have a snowball effect.
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john: he said no sanction is immediate, let's wait a month or so and see if it works. sanctions aside, something appears to be going on in ukraine. ukraine presidential advisor says russian troops have not made a serious advance in a day. russia was trying to suggest it take a pause to allow potential for talks to go forward. there was nothing but blatant russian propaganda. any talk at the white house or the national security council the vladimir putin is getting bogged down in ukraine and regardless what sanctions you put on this is taking a turn for the worse for vladimir putin militarily? >> reporter: we heard of a defense official theaters frustration on the part of the russians. they thought they would
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steamroll ukraine but they are fighting for their country and getting support from the nato alliance, countries announcing antitank and antiaircraft missiles to ukraine, sort of a step short of fighting on their behalf. germany and a major policy reversal announcing it will send lethal aid to ukraine as well. the german laws prohibit up until now the transfer of weapons. they are blocking countries from sending arms that originated in germany to ukraine because of the way the legal system prohibited it. this is a major reversal, chancellor saying this aggression needs to be met with resistance. when it comes to the russians and talks about having any of these talks, ukraine said we might be interested in having
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his real mediate this. the only democracy with good relations with ukraine and russia. that being said we know from our reporting the state department had official here have been watching for this sort of stakeout from russia that they want to work this out and in the meantime preparing to escalate and take more significant action was no one is trusting any word out of the kremlin. john: zelenskyy welcome the peace initiative by turkey. there's a lot of talk about potential for talks but no one is thinking anything will happen in the near term. jackie heinrich, thanks so much. sandra: former obama economic advisor, fox news contributor,
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still on ubs globally. you have intimate knowledge of the swift financial system. that is at the center of the next consideration by president biden and the white house whether we will remove a putin and russia from the financial messaging system. the indication is that would hurt. that is not happened yet. doesn't need to? >> thanks for having me on. everything biden has done unilaterally has been powerful. he sanctioned the two largest banks. he did the export controls. he band and froze assets of vladimir putin and the oligarchs. now that point is what can he do next? it can't be done unilaterally. the most crippling thing they can do is to ban russia from the swift messaging. the way you should think of that is gmail meets fan mail. they don't hold catch but they
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do the messaging and transfer. this is literally what all the financial institutions and corporations use. it is an incredible he secure system and everyone is on it from china and russia to all the major banks north of 10,000. jon: sandra: this is how you would target their energy industry. it would cripple them. those transactions cannot take place in russia cannot get that revenue for their energy. >> correct. what would happen is the reason there's been hesitation from germany and italy as they are dependent on energy and gas from russia. the largest russia produces our us, saudi, russia, us and canada. if you are cutting off russia you are cutting off 10% of the energy globally.
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the only way we can do that is for germany to get more oil from saudi to the us, iran, whoever it may be an cut off all the financial commerce between russia and everyone else. this would be crippling. there are other systems russia and china can move around. very few banks on it. this is an end game for russia but this would take them down to the worst-case scenario. you would have a run on the banks, a run on the ruble, a run on the market and i'm glad to point out what you recently said. germany and italy are supportive. this is the thing biden could not do unilaterally. the european central bank is running it. the g 10 members. sandra: germany has been a whole out but looks like they
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are leaning in that direction. to be clear, i know i clarified this to you, in this moment we are still purchasers of russian energy, are we not? >> correct. we purchase from canada, saudi, russia, and mexico as well as what we produce ourselves. i think what we would do is cut off russia, try to get more from saudi, opec, canada, mexico, probably think about iran again. sandra: some are wondering why we are not doing that at this moment. >> good question. it would disrupt the energy market, both aspect of banning swift as well as cutting off russia.
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north of 10 million barrels a day, between 10, 14% of the global energy market. this would have a contagion effect. you don't just do it day one. you do it in coordination with parts of eastern europe. sandra: certainly a debate about that "happening now". appreciate it, thank you. >> reporter: fox news alert, some news to report about the russian advance on kyiv. according to an advisor to the ukrainian president vladimir zelenskyy, russia's attack on kyiv has not been advancing, he says we are striking the enemy around kyiv, the enemy is not moving despite the fact the russian defense ministry said after what it called the pause to allow potential for talks to
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go forward, on friday, was going to renew the vigor with which russian forces would be attacking in ukraine but something is happening on the outskirts of kyiv as the kyiv military and conscripts have gone out to meet the advancing russian force. live in kyiv, what are you hearing? >> reporter: theirs fierce resistance on the ground in ukraine. when you think of the logistics of a military operation like the one vladimir putin ordered, they are quite complex. once you are in another country you don't have the support of a military base nearby. there are thousands of russian troops in this country and they need food, gasoline for tanks and armored vehicles and we are getting reports that they are having trouble with those logistics.
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that, coupled with the fact the ukrainian army is putting a fierce resistance in the form of shooting planes out of the sky, helicopters out of the sky and using ground forces to stop the advance of these russian troops, the russian military is dealing with a difficult advance forward, something we talked about earlier. if more troops make it into the capital of kyiv it will change the battlefield for these russian forces. the fact they are feasting fierce resistance when us defense officials say 50% of the russian forces who were previously on the ukrainian border are participating in this offensive it is a major indicator the russians are having trouble. take everything you hear from both sides in terms of the numbers of how many casualties there are, we are careful about reporting out when we get these statements because there is no
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way to verify this information. they are putting up fierce resistance at this hour. john: members on both sides have to be treated with skepticism. here's why you need to be careful. from the danish tabloid inner-city northwest of kharkiv. be careful. sandra: a former senior advisor at the state department, 4 minutes to go until the top of the new hour in ukraine, kyiv approaching the 9:00 hour in the evening. your thoughts as the ukrainians are showing they are armed to fight, ready to fight. reaches i'm humbled to share
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the screen with folks, you are at a loss for words. i come at it from the technology standpoint. there are two failures of the communication system so zelenskyy, the government are able to communicate with their people, people are able to get messages, to see what is going on and give them directions. in this day and age of social media and connectivity, he can no longer put out a narrative that we are doing it because of this. too many people can contradict the truth. this is going to be a template for modern warfare, the role of the citizen and the journalists and technology. that will change how a war is reported and the impact of what it does to people.
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john: we heard about attacks on russian computers. the hacker group anonymous said it is responsible for that. we talk about nation to nation cyber hacking but the fact that an independent group like anonymous, to prevent them from conducting business or getting their message out, that's a new side to this as well. >> the enemy of my enemy is my friend. anonymous has not always been nice to us law enforcement but go to kremlin, it is still down. it is part of the digital resistance, the french resistance, these are people who can wage a type of warfare without being in the country. the equivalent of harassing operations.
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the fronts are being defined, people with access to computers or social media, over 10 guys and tanks in terms of damage and disruption. sandra: we work our way to another evening of watching events unfold. you think about fierce and defiant spirit. just one second. we have live sound out of kyiv. more sirens. we can all hear the sirens to gather. that is the shot for a reporter in kyiv. quick thoughts.
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>> when you look at the media coming out about the ghost of kyiv, the sacrifice of the soldier and the people on snake island, those stories will form the resistance for ukraine. sandra: great to be with you. john: we will see you again monday. we will be back as the war in ukraine continues. >> day 3 of the russian invasion of ukraine, horrific scenes continue to unfold as a putin's army step up their attacks to overtake kyiv. video of a russian missile hitting a residential building in the ukrainian capital this morning, 200 ukrainians including three children have been killed as a result of the ongo

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