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we are defending our country. we are defending our country. glory to ukraine. hello, i'm alicia acuna in denver. mike: i'm mike emanuel. it's 1:00 a.m. in our nation's capital and 8:00 a.m. in kyiv. a sign russia is ramping up its assault after three days of fierce resistance. the escalating danger of war estimated 150,000 ukrainians to flee their homeland. their president has refused an offer from the united states to evacuate him and his family. alicia: at home the u.s. is joining forces with the u.k. and the european union.
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putting a block on russia's financial system. but so far sanctions have yet to steam the destruction and death toll. mike: we'll be joined by steve harrigan on the ground in kyiv. and rich edson will join us from the pentagon. let's begin this hour's team coverage at the very center of this global crisis, kyiv. hello, steve. >> we just heard jets overhead. one loud explosion to the north three miles away. now we are hearing small arms fire. we have seen pockets of russian soldiers elite force ins inside. we haven't seen the bigger weapons. they are not inside the city. but there is fighting going on in the capital. overnight two large explosions, including one that looked to hit
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a fuel depot. it made a glowing morning fire in the night sky for more than taken hour. the ukrainian president zelensky said they have been successful holding them off. but things could change. we have seen individual acts of heroism, including one ukrainian standing in front of a russian tank to prevent it from coming into his town. russia says they have only used half of their battle power. they intend to entrance on tall fronts. we are hearing from the interior ministry that the russian forces convenienterred the town of kharkiv. so the advance continues. some real trouble could be ahead. mike: i know you have decades covering conflict in that region. any sense of how resistance in
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ukraine could play back home to the rugs people. >> i think they are undergoing a black outy state controlled television. they are not allowed to mention the ward war. you see no fighting on the screen. and if your website talks about invasion you are shut down. near total control. but that can't last. but for now they are doing what they can to keep it off the russian news. mike: steve, thanks very much. alicia? alicia: ukraine's most westerly city also coming under fire, lucas tomlinson coming to us from lviv.
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he said the russians met with fierce resistance. a number of russian soldiers killed. many of them fled into the forest. some were taking prisoner. there was not a large scale cyber war that's anticipated before coming. and not the blackout many saw. many u.s. officials are saying the russians have not accomplished their goal as we heard from steve. russian forces have not taken any cities thus far. the overnight come barredment in kharkiv hitting a fuel depot. in western ukraine i spoke to two young ukrainian women who say they are very nervous.
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all ukrainians are object their phone 4/7 -- 24/7 getting information. they say they can't sleep. they are very nervous. vladimir putin. many people think here and in western circles, they called his speech a bitter rants. his essay over the summer said ukraine and russia are one people. the people here disagree. >> i any putin doesn't understand ukraine. he has this idea of ukraine fraud from the historical points of view. but he doesn't understand the contemporary ukraine, and the extents that ukraine has changed
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since 2014 when russian aggression began. reporter: ukrainian forces have denied russian superiority. the russians thought they tbhobt capital by now. and they thought they would take out all ukrainian air defense systems. we have seen ukrainian forces shoot down aircraft. germany will supply 1,000 javelin anti-tank missiles and stinger anti-aircraft missiles. missiles. the west hopes the weapons will turn the tide in this war. the grocery stores in lviv.
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people are panicking and buying tons of supplies. water much harder to come by. all the kind of supplies you normally see people buying in terms of a coming storm back home. people see this russian advance. they are very nervous and afraid. so far no sign of russian forces. but people are nervous about what comes next. >> being that you are in the western part of the country away from the government center. but the proximity to poland is important. what is the value of lviv to president putin and his strategy? >> russian forces taking lviv isn't a priority. there is probably not a military advantage to taking this city.
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it's a university town, it's the city about the size of boston. but it's very central to the refugee migration. we are seeing tens of thousands of ukrainians flooding out of the capital. peer 20 miles from the polish border. that's where many are setting up tents and trying to provide comfort to to of these refugees. for military-aged males, if you are 18-60 years old you are not allowed to leave. all military-age males must stay and fight. there have been tragic stories of men sometimes giving up their children to strangers to take them out of the country. so many lives being ruined and they will never be the same. alicia: thanks, through as.
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mike: the russian army attacking ukraine from three sides of its border. so far they managed to keep vladimir putin's forces out from capturing the capital of kyiv. one u.s. official says russia is becoming increasingly frustrated by a lack of momentum in its invasion. we are joined by our panel, fred fleitz and wayne holtz who served as representative to nato. gentlemen, thanks for staying with us. fred, obviously president biden and his team did not select this conflict. but they know they will be grade on it, right? >> indeed. and it's hard to say this has been handled well. we heard before the invasion the administration threat being
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fierce economic sanctions would stop the invasion. that didn't happen. the president laid out sanctions that were determined to be fairly weak last week. it looks like they have been strengthened since then. i hope they have their act in gear and impose tougher sanctions. keeping them out of sports events. denying access to airlines of traveling the world. there is a way of pressuring the country. no u.s. troops in ukraine. we don't want to rise across war between the united states and nuclear armed russia. mike: will they stay unified as we go forward? >> i think so. over time we have seen may so unity and resolve increasing through this crisis. i any there was a lot of
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disbelief about a month ago. months ago even. this energy issue is divide the alliance with germany so dependent on russian oil. the threat is a threat. and putin temperatures audacity and boldness in going into ukraine, there is a shock factor across the alliance. this is real. the alliance is being threatened. and? secretary stoltenberg's own words. they activated the nato reaction force and they are serious about closing ranges now. and we do see evidence of that. i wish it would have been faster. anybody who dealt with nato, nato has more velocity. but we see may so closing ranks. mike: i would like to bring in my colleague alicia acuna.
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alicia: we are hearing reports of supply change issues that the russian military is experiencing. they are having trouble with fuel and there is a lot of momentum. how much stake should we put in this slow-moving force that seems to be stumbling upon itself. >> i have a suspicion. i adhere to the statement that amateurs discuss tack kicks and professionals discuss logistics. when i watched crimea fall. we analyzed deeply what the cost impossible was and how much the logistics tail was costing the russians. i can tell you their logistics tail isn't efficient and it doesn't work very well. on our side of the coin. we are masters of this.
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i would like to see a doubling down on our logistic support of ukraine to keep this resistance going. but from the russian side i think it resistance speaks for itself. they are having deep problems with their supply chain. they are getting behind those lines and serving those lines. mike: we saw the administration emphasize strong sanctions. what more can they be doing at this point? >> we have to have the strongest possible sanctions. we have to isolate them and keep them out of sporting events. but i want to make a comment on alicia's question. we are several days into this conflict. i hope it's true that the ukrainians are slowing down the russians. but the russians have a lot of military force they haven't used the yet. if they -- get desperate they
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could make airstrikes on cities. we need to make it-hard on russians elites to send their kids abroad to study in western schools. i hope it's true that the ukrainians have plead up a resistance that the russians who can do an enormous amount of damage to this country. we have to do everything to stop that. alicia: russia was most likely to expect support from china. but now there are signs of battle lines cracking. we'll be right back. so...cordls headphones, you can watch movies through your phone? and y'all got electric cars? yeah. the future is crunk! (laughs)
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invasion of ukraine. u.s. officials describe this as essentially anti-armor, anti-aircraft system, small arms as well. ukraine says it discussed more assistance with georgia, the united kingdom. poland said it delivered ammunition and german officials say they are still working to secure more help. >> i'm working with the pentagon on an hourly and daily basis. we still need more capabilities. i can seizure you what we received already were used in the proper way must in two targets. >> ukraine said it's capturing some of the invading russians.
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and giving them food and water and are in accordance with. the up n. official tells fox they estimate 150,000 fled ukraine are massive lines waiting to cross at poland and moldova. the u.k. announced they are removing ukraine from swift. the international banking. they are targeting russian oligarchs to freeze their assets. in russia, a watchdog group that looks out for protests and russian actions there said 3,000
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people have been arrested or detained across russia since this invasion started thursday. alicia: the response from world leaders towards russia's invasion of ukraine has been universal. they joined with the european union to block access to the organization known as swift. even china has been slow in helping russia evade economic sanctions. joining us now, david, a former department official. >> president xi and president putin met at the opening of the olympics. they announced a new alliance and seemed to be hand in hand.
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russia started this invasion after the olympics ended. after the closing air known money. and not to do it during the olympics and sour the olympics which beijing wanted to go well. china is happy to see nato at loggerheads with russia. but sat the same time i think china does not want to suffer the consequences which russia is now confronting. that's why some chinese banks have refused to do business with russian entities that have recently been sanctioned by the united states. we'll see how this plays out. china is straddling things right now. it refused to condemn russia, including abstaining from a u.n.
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security council resolution. but it doesn't clearly show that it's supporting russia and is not helping russia evade sanctions. alicia: china is russia's biggest customer in imports and exports. including energy as well. but china also does business with the united states. and they have their own self-interest at heart, don't they? >> absolutely. the u.s. is a more important market for china than russia is. but china is the most important market now for russia. russia absolutely needs to maintain that as a trading partner given it's being cut off from the u.s. and europe and many other countries around the world. as we watch what's happening in ukraine and kyiv and ukrainian soldiers and civilians are
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bravely and courageously defending the city, the world is being inspired by this bravery. the protests around the world is causing governments around the world to come in and announce support for ukraine which is problematic for china. it doesn't want to be cut off from trade and commerce with the rest of the world. it doesn't want to seem isolated with russia and face the same condemnation russia is facing. alicia: if putin is going to get help circumventing sanctions, lows left for this russian leader. >> not a lot of reliable countries if he doesn't have china. e has a few of the countries run by autocrats that he's allied with. belarus is one of those countries. they were invited by lukashenko.
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there are other obvious suspects like north korea and iran. syria, countries that russia has been helping that are also autocratic regimes. but more and more russia appears to be isolated. putin was prepared for this. he built up the reserves because he understood that he may be cut off from the financial system. but some of the u.s. sanctions are focused on the russian central bank. and as the u.s. seems to be ratcheting up sanctions each day, it's tightening the noose on moscow. >> thank you so much for this middle of the night conversation. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. mike: we know putin's forces have met stronger resistance than expected. one general is telling fox news
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alicia: u.s. defense officials are recording a growing frustration coming out of the kremlin for the slow incursion campaign. telling fox news russia is losing this war. >> i think he lost this war and it's stunning to me. i don't think anybody thought that. when i looked at the forces he had. all of his air, throwing them against ukraine, they are standing up to them. i think the world is stunned by it and i'm stunned everybody is pushing back. >> joining me jason beardsley. thank you for being here. i need to get your response to
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that. has putin lost this war already? >> sure. i think general kellogg is one of the group think pentagon officials who start to realize these wars happen on the ground. when you are rhetorically fighting from london and rome. the ground forces look different from our perspective than what some of the senior officials have been saying. alicia: germany is sending in antitake missiles. from steve hair fans reporting it's about to get -- steve harrigan's reporting. >> a little late in the game. senior officials were caught on their back heels. the time to get lethal weapons in was last week. it's late for that.
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but the ukrainians are putting up a great defense on their own. the supply lines and the logistics are too far extended for putin to carry this off without some real difficulty. alicia: i'm going to bring in my colleague mike emanuel who also has questions. mike: volodymyr zelensky has been offered free passage to leave this country. what are your thoughts on that. >> when the state department offered president zelensky an escape plan to leave kyiv. that was a slap in the face to every ukrainian. he was smart enough to see that. that will make them a unified country. a good move on zelensky's part,
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bad move on our part. >> 150 people have already fled ukraine. that number could increase to a million. how long will that last when the numbers continue to increase? >> we see that a lot in these conditions. the neighboring countries are empathetic to the ukrainian cause. they can take ex patriots for a while. they can go back after the conflict. ukrainians have been asking to be part of the e.u. and the nato alliance. so this is not abnormal and they may take advantage of the conflict at hand. mike: jason you are the voice for america's sailors. your thoughts on what more the
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united states could be perhaps quietly doing to help the ukrainians with their he distance against big bad vlad putin and the russians? >> they started that with money and funding. moving fleet and aircraft carriers into the region, this is a chance to flex our muscle and make sure china does not see an easy picking look across the strait at taiwan. in addition the united states is doing what it should with nato trying to unify the partnership and move troops into the region. the final thing is voicing what is happening on the ground and making sure great reporters like your staff and folks out there get the truth out to people. there is a lot of propaganda and the best way to burn through the lies is with a lot of truth. alicia: putin hates nothing more
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than being embarrassed especially on the world stage. things are not going as well as he had hoped or expected. how concerned are you that a putin backed into a corner. >> i'm concerned with his behavior. but there are foreign ministers in the kremlin who are not on board with this. there are russian soldiers who have seen through this scheme of maneuver. they are allowing the soldiers to call home to their mothers. that's an effective technique to cap this bear at the knees to make sure they don't get aggressive. putin has gone the this wrong from the get-go. i think those in the oligarch billionaire circle don't want this to go down. look for grumblings from around his close circle.
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alicia: through. very helpful. mike: the images coming out of ukraine are heartbreaking with tens of thousands of people fleeing the only country they have known, their homeland. brian: at some point if this war continues to escalate we are talking about 4 million ukrainian re few goes having to be -- refugees having to be displaced from their homes. some of the neighboring countries, more than half of those 150,000 have gone into poland. mostly women and children are making their ways after traveling days with only what they can cover. romanians showed up at the border to hand out food, aid, and toiletries to these
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refugees. one row maybian father mad this to -- one romanian father had this to say. >> it's unbelievable. imagine they have to leave their homeland and go into date and country. they don't even know where they are going. they are just trying to get away from war and they are trying to get away from the conflict. hopefully we can provide a little bit of joy for them. from the past days, and the past week. >> polish authorities said 115,000 refugees have crossed into poland. 30 miles of cars have traveled through ukraine to make it to the polish border. fighting aged men 18-60 are
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being forced to stay in ukraine to fight the russians. this video shows a mother reuniting with her son. they were trying to make it out of ukraine. but the father was stopped at the border. the father turned hip over to a complete stranger to reunite him with his mother. mike: thanks very much. alicia: the u.s. is home to more than 1 million people of ukrainian descent. our next guest shares the worries about family members left behind. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪
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family members are living with the risk of russian aimretion. yuri, i'm sorry for what you and other members of the ukrainian-american community are going through. what are you hearing from family at this point? >> thanks for having me. what i'm hearing is what is happening. and i would say a little bit of a resolve to stay behind, not move away, and just rely on the military and the defense force to fight this off. mike require talked to many, many americans who are very impressed with president zelensky's leadership. he targeted one of putin's forces. yet you see hip out on the street. the united states offered him safe passage. saying i'm staying here and
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leaving my people. your thoughts on zelensky and how that may touch your heart at this point. >> i think for me and for a lot of ukrainians wheat believe he has done a fantastic job with the standoff with russians. >> i'm sure your first concern is human life. how concerned are you by destruction, devastation related to the russian invasion and what those forces may do to the beautiful places in your home country? >> yeah, ukraine is a very beautiful country it's a very old country. you see churches that are a thousand years old. you see parks that have trees
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that are hundreds of years old. it's beautiful. it's a shame this is being ruined. but really, the main thing is to keep people alive. and i'm sure that will, the churches and the parks, i am much less concerned about than keeping people alive. mike: beautiful churched there in the shot i'm showing you right now. i am wondering about you as a dad seeing the images of the dads handing their kids off across the border and staying behind to fight for their country. >> it does bring tears. it's heartbreaking. i have a center in ukraine up
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next to kyiv. a suburb. she has heard shells, shelling. nearby. she has a 3-year-old daughter. i really can't imagine what she is going through. my heart is breaking. hers must be just devastated. mike: our very best to your extended family living in ukraine. to all the ukrainian people during this time of crisis and we'll keep you all in our thoughts and prayers. >> thank you so much, mike. alicia: former president trump weighing in on the russian aggression in ukraine. his stark warning for the world.
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could lead to world war iii. it's a horrible thing. there is great bravery being shown. i think they are doing one hell of a job. much more so than anybody would have thought possible. we'll see what happens. but it should have never happened. alicia: joining us, fox news contributor, an even academic advisory board member at the america first policy institute. your thoughts of where the conflict between russia and ukraine might be headed. >> former presidentdon issued i think an important and thoughtful warning. if you listen to the tone of his voice and the statements he made. i think he's right. this war did not have to happen. but it happened, i believe in part because of the lack of and clearly stated american grand
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strategy in terms of dealing with great powers and really the rest of the world. and i have said repeatedly on air that in the past year vladimir putin was probing, broke to see how far he could go without a firm western response. he's been building his forces around ukraine for the past year. and it's just now that we are beginning to see the pieces come together in terms of a unified western response. that's no way to execute a war, and it is -- it leads to wider war. and that's why i believedon was trying to focus on in the clip you just played. and when i say a wider conflict. i think it's more likely that something larger happens, more nations become involved when states like the united states and the nato countries don't
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think through the second and third order effects of what they are doing. so most of what we are doing now in the west to combat russia focuses on sanctions. and sanctions as i said before and many others are important, they may be the most important part of our tool kit now. but they aren't a policy. they aren't a strategy. they often take longer to work than one would work. and they become sometimes the whole show when there hasn't been the deeper thinking in place. in the last 24 hours the commitment to swift of separating some of the russian banks from the international messaging system seems to be hailed as a positive step. i agree. but at the same time what happens when nations like china, which it already has done, develop alternative messaging systems for their financial
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transactions? that can challenge the u.s. in a very profound way. because swift is tied to the u.s. dollar. all of these things haven't really been discussed. i'm sure they have been debated privately in western capitals. but we as the american public are going to suffer along with others around the world. the effects of not thinking through and developing a larger strategy. i know you want to ask me some more questions. but let me just also say, we talk about sanctioning the oil and gas sector of russia. and the growing consensus that that should be done. we also have to think through what does that mean for the global energy supply chain? what does that mean for energy prices purchase the world. these are big questions that are hard to address. when you are in the middle of
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the battle of kyiv. it's almost unimaginable. alicia: it's crossing in the wires that ukrainian officials are saying there is street fighting in kharkiv as russian troops enter the city. there is so' resolve we have seen in determination with the ukrainian people. and we are see the russian military. are you encouraged by this? too yes, i am. you think about that saying we all heard growing up. not the size of the dog in the fight, but the fight in the calling. that's what we are seeing? ukraine. heart and commit of those people its fundamental. alicia: professor skinner thank you so much. wel be right back. for you to slow down. haven
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