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the national anthem. an example of the dignity and brave your of the ukrainian people. arthel: dignity and brave but human beings and they need help. this is horrible. absolutely horrible. eric: let us unite for ukraine and keep them in our prayers and hope the world can do more than that. >> ukrainian holding onto the capital city of kyiv in fighting for their lives as vladimir putin orders russia's nuclear forces on high alert. the u.s. is warning americans to consider leaving russia immediately. i am aishah hasnie along with joey jones, katie potlatch and charlie hurt. welcome to a special hour of "the big sunday show" russia is targeting ukraine's infrastructure in a missile strike blowing up an oil depot
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outside of kyiv. many civilians taking up arms to hold off russian troops while others are hunkering down in basement, subways, anywhere bracing for the next wave of attacks. ukraine's ministry of interior says 352 civilians had been killed in ukraine following the russian invasion. pollutants for sins pivoting towards ukraine's second largest city were intense street fighting broke out but met with heavy pushback. a frustrated vladimir putin now raising the status of russian nuclear deterrent forces to special combat readiness. in response, un security council will now hold an emergency meeting as soon as tomorrow. this comes as ukraine's president agreed to hold talks with russia at ukraine's border with belarus. let's bring in trey yingst for the very latest from the ground. he is joining us now from the capital city of kyiv.
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>> good afternoon the russian defense ministry said they had more than you 1000 military targets. but they said nothing about the civilian infrastructure that has been damaged in this conflict. just yesterday russian missile hit an apartment building in the capital of kyiv, killing two people and injuring six others. overnight in oil depot south of the city was hit in a few moments ago there was an explosion in the capital city and air raid sirens started to sound. it gives you a sense of how close the conflict is and it continues at this hour. the sirens told civilians and ukraine to head underground to bomb shelters immediately due to incoming russian fire. we know at this hour kharkiv the second largest city under attack by advancing russian forces. they continue the siege innovation of this country but ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky on the phone with western leaders tried to get as
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many pieces of support as he can to this country and keep the sanctions high on the russian to try to discourage this behavior. aishah: there's been a lot of reports of putin's frustration and the pit to the second largest city as part of that. you find people on the ground are hearing these reports. you do they know this growing frustration, where is the morale with the people and you can? >> the morale is higher than you would expect. they are united against the russian offensive. we seen this in the street of kyiv, today, yesterday and since the invasion started. civilians who are not in the army are lighting up the police stations. we talked about this yesterday but it continues today they're trying to get as many weapons and ammunition as they can to stock up and prepare for the fight alongside ukrainian forces. that's what we seem this resilience from the ukrainian
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army. the videos continue to come out online showing people standing in front of russian tanks. he gives you a sense of people willing to risk their lives in order to stop the russian invasion. other video showing elderly people arguing with russian shoulders asking them why they're doing this an interesting part is the mayor responded they don't know and they're confused about the situation. these orders from putin sending his own soldiers into battle knowing they can be killed as well and not caring because is not respecting the sovereignty and neighboring ukraine. joey: will be talk about the morale on the ground and people being excited and vigorous and wanting to support their country and defend it. is there an element of that because they believe europe and the united states will eventually get more involved? or do they know that is a possibility but not a
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probability and they are still fighting for their country anyway? >> they are still going to fight for their country anyway. we talked about the man who said he would use a kitchen knife to stop russian soldiers from coming into the city. they are asking for the support from the west. they are starting to get it that you looking at fighter jets and antitank missiles antiaircraft batteries a variety of weapons that could be used as this invasion continues. the big question has to do with logistics. how they will get the weapons here and if they do with the russians decide to hit the convoys who are bringing them into this country? that raises the question of nato involvement. katie: katie here. there have been many reports today saying kyiv was surrounded and russian troops had surrounded the city make it impossible for people to get out. can you clarify what the status is on the outskirts of the city and whether civilians are still capable of leaving?
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>> the mayor of kyiv told the associated press that the city was surrounded and no further evacuations would be possible. he said that he misspoke. he has pulled back the comments but underlying that the city is under a lot of pressure right now. we know martial law is in place across the country. the capital of kyiv is not allowing anyone in the streets until 8:00 a.m. on monday. that may be extended. right now it appears evacuations could continue this week but the russian forces are getting closer. as we saw our cameras captured the street fighting inside the city limits. there have been people killed inside the ukrainian capital and the gun battles between ukrainian forces and russian military read more of that is expected tonight. we heard gunfire in the distance. the explosion in the air rate of sirens sounded once again. charles: charlie hurt here, great reporting on the ground. you give us an amazing glimpse
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of a very difficult situation. i'm still interested in what you are talking about almost a confusion between russia soldiers in ukrainian defenders. it is almost like they are arguing about things on the ground and you see these wonderful scenes of ukrainians filling up bottles with gasoline to make molotov cocktails and is an amazing footage of tanks where you have ukrainians going up standing in front of the tanks. most of the footage that we see in those tanks are standoffs with civilians or pedestrians, the pedestrians don't end up getting hurt. are there much worse scenes that were not seen where those things devolve into actual hard kinetic battles between pedestrians and civilians and russian soldiers? >> absolutely their graphic scenes unfolding amid this work.
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a lot of images we cannot bring you thereto graphic but there have been children killed and many civilians killed in this conflict. a lot of the fighting is taking place outside of population centers. we talk about the sometimes but it's an important point underlying. much of this work cannot be covered due to the fact that this is a massive country in the media and those who capture things even on cell phone video art in every location that the russian forces are advancing you see the aftermath. a truck that had been hit by russian forces. totally riddled with bullet holes and soaked with blood. those images sometimes we cannot bring them to you because into graphic but it's taking place around the country. this is a serious war in serious weaponry is being used and often times civilians in the way and they're facing things like tanks, fighter jets and ballistic missiles. aishah: i would read this quote from the president of belarus.
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basically warning the entire world and ukraine specifically of what might happen if the fighting doesn't stop. this is pushing russia into a third world war. we need to be restrained here. as not to get into trouble because nuclear war is the end of everything. wiki. the word nuclear today from the russians, from the president belarus. is this two-stroke panic amongst ukrainians. what are you hearing on the ground from ukrainians. how are they responding to now with the war being used. >> the leader of belarus and president putin are looking to send a message to the west into nato regarding the sanctions of the pressure in the support of the ukrainian military. it is quite a concerning term to be talking about nuclear war. these are two men known as european strongmen dictator
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types. people who do not support or acknowledge human rights who have crackdown on demonstrators within their own countries who have no regard for international law. it is not shocking necessarily to hear these words but it is concerning and this could be chest beating by the leaders using the term nuclear it must be taken seriously by the uted states and others for our support and ukraine. aishah: terrific reporting, keep herself safe and your team and we will keep thinking of you we will check back a little bit later. the united states is joining other allies and blocking russian banks from doing business with other countries. but is it enough to deter putin, ukraine's president is calling for international team to join the fight against russia's forces. more coming up next.
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>> we have essentially cut off the majority of the russian financial and banking system from the global community just to put this into perspective. the most comparable other country where we taking these actions is iran. it's not significant in terms of the steps are taken. there's more steps we can take and will reserve the option to do that. i want to note the significance were seeing the impact on the russian economy. joey: bidens press secretary admitting the last time president biden talk to president zelensky he was asking for additional security assistant as ukrainian leader grows frustrated by the lack of international action to help the country under siege. >> everyone who can return to ukraine come back to defend ukraine. we have a lot of work to rebuild it. everyone who can defend abroad do it persistently and together. all friends of ukraine that want to join we will give you arms. joey: we've talked about
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sanctions, has white house that enough or should they do more. today we see the swift action has been taken. everyone at home understands i'm not on fox business, fox news channel i don't understand myself but to explain this better to people at home the swift banking system is essentially how russian government and businesses and people transact money around the world receive and remit payment and rubble status fluctuating everywhere in u.s. dollars or euros. if you go to a fox business person, i did on "fox & friends" they say this is really harsh when a political person someone in congress says it was a harsh enough, would you make sense of this. >> you have an impact fox business is talking about how the ruble is crashing ahead moscow opening tomorrow. that may be deteriorated to vladimir putin. they talked about when this
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announcement came through. they said specific things, whether the banks were the ones that operate in process transactions of oil and gas payments. my understanding that is not true the russian bank has not been taken off the switch system to make sure that oil and gas payments are no longer available which is how different it is for if you look at the response from europe as a whole is a little bit surprising sweden going after but under vladimir putin and bank transactions will not go through on behalf of russia. william switzerland and sweden getting involved. i think the situation is serious. you had jen psaki ask about whether the administration was willing to produce more oil domestically to off put russian oil and off but the idea of importing russian oil.
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in the keystone xl pipeline would carry a hundred thousand oils a day to the united states and 900,000 barrels, she said of the climate change ideology and they are arguing a shift to clean energy, that's another debate clean or green is something that they see as a solution to this crisis now which is a ludicrous assertion given solar, wind another forms of energy available that don't compare in terms of keeping their economy running. joey: charlie and gary come to you i have a similar question. it really turns domestic at that point. katie was sitting on it we quit producing oil and being energy independent, that put us in a tough place to sanction russia and get the rest of europe on board with us. now we get a look at the
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sanction which is disturbing their economy and the speculative side. he said essentially it would take a couple years to get online and be competitive but the speculation of moving to do it can be disruptive. are americans wondering should we be spending more money on gas to help ukraine or you think americans understand that and that's the right move to make. >> from a political standpoint, the only sanctions a matter for us in america that joe biden is a administration has completely neutered our economy and our country for being energy independent. that's already happened. going forward were buying fuel from russia therefore basically funding this work which is a real problem. this whole thing this is a green new deal war. this is what happens after crazy notion like the green new deal and embolden our enemies and we
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can ourselves. this is what you get. joey: you are on capitol hill were getting a fully political to you, what are members of congress ate about the sanctions and the pressure from home from americans if they have economic impacts on us? >> if i may, on what jen psaki said at the top of the block she compared the sanctions of russia to those of iran but we did cripple iran's economy was sanctions but we also sanctioned irans energy which were not doing with russia. it's a little bit different were hoping for a trickle-down effect when it comes sanctioning the system in the sanctions are completely the same. as a clarification. absolutely congress has a big role to play in helping ukraine with humanitarian aid with security assistance. they did not do anything before they left for ten days they were supposed to put together a
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bipartisan sanction package they failed to do that, coming back monday they can save their faces in the reputation by putting something together. i think they will not take the time has turned and i think that they will this week. joey: thank you. coons invasion not going as planned as russian forces about ukrainian street how far will russians president go. overplay, all that right here is next. ♪
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katie: welcome back to "the big sunday show" trouble brewing from vladimir putin. the russian president serious his invasion has been met with unexpected resistance of his own citizens are turning on him with thousands of war protesters arrested in russia. former secretary of state condoleezza rice describing the descent into madness.
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>> i met with him many times. this is a different prudent. he had the tough veneer he was always calculating and cold but this is different. he seems erratic, there is an ever deepening delusional rendering of history. it was always victim obligee about what happened to him. he is descended into something i personally have not seen before. charles: jennifer griffin live from the pentagon. >> intelligence analyst think putin is escalating to de-escalate perhaps by threatening to put his nuclear weapon on high alert while offering to negotiate with president zelensky. he may be trying to scare the west into pressuring zelensky to step aside. from what we see that does not appear likely. u.s. officials tell us they are
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confident they can defend the u.s. homeland as well as allies and partners. the president of belarus on the other hand a country that putin has essentially annexed without firing a shot was the one to speak with president zelensky today. it was the first time they spoken in two years. his statements were made about a third world war. a nuclear war demonstrates how the sanctions, the white house in the eu announces weekend are being viewed in moscow. russian conventional forces as you mentioned are facing stiff resistance like the ukrainian using their bodies to block the russian tank. russian forces have not taken any major cities yet or achieved air superiority. they are 30 kilometers outside of the capital. no change in the past 24 hours there is a long 3.5-mile long convoy of russian tanks and fuel heading towards kyiv. that could all change the
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russian forces have raised fuel shortages up until now is apply logistic tissues. a concern the town of kharkiv east of kharkiv where russian forces are preparing for his siege that would lead to many civilian deaths. residents have been told to keep their lights off to avoid being a target for the russian troops circling the city. katie: today secretary rice described putin's thinking is a delusional rendering of history and given your experience covering him in the '90s. i'm wondering if it's fair to analyze the situation of underestimating the resolve of ukrainian people as being isolated in recent times but they give that the ukrainian people would be perfectly fine with being occupied and being under russian rule as having a pre-soviet dissolved the attitude about the russians
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being in charge of the country, is that fair or is that wrong. >> i think it is interesting to look at the psychology of food right now. i think it be study for some time i'm sure that our intelligence analyst are looking at it closely. the signs are not good as secretary rice mentioned today on fox. when i was there in the '90s putin came to power and 99 as prime minister at the tail end when i was covering that area. he has used and continue to use the methodology of a kpd agent which is who he is to his soul. a lot of what is doing right now is messaging to the west. he is using nuclear weapons to threaten the west to negotiate and look like a madman if you will. i don't know if he is frustrated or not. we don't have any direct reports from inside the kremlin. we know his forces are moving as quickly as he thought and that
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might lead to more violence as they try to take the cities. what also is notable, he has been using stalin's grandson to do a lot of messaging. excuse me stalin's foreign minister's grandson is a member of parliament with the last name molotov. you remember the foreign minister of stalin molotov with the molotov cocktails are named after. he was the one who negotiated with germany to carveout poland and lithuania in the baltics during world war ii. that is significant that molotov is the one that putin is using to speak on british television. he spoke right before the russian troops crossed into ukraine. this is all the work of a kgb agent trying to psychological the psychological warfare that he is using against the west by
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using nuclear weapons in the parliament molotov to do his messaging. katie: we don't have a lot of time at the end of the segment. i want to ask we talked about the type of support in the west giving ukraine. we talk about sending weapons and logistical support. you know if the pentagon has a war room. are they providing intellectual support, strategic support on the battlefield. helping map out how a smaller force can come at a larger force in this war? >> what i would tell you the pentagon is extremely engaged in what is happening inside of ukraine and in terms of keeping the nato alliance united and strong to prevent putin from moving into the nato countries. i think i will refrain from describing what they might be doing in the pentagon. what is very clear to me is nobody wants to give putin a
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pretext to suggest or get bated into appearing to be parting this conflict in ukraine because that could lead to a war between nuclear power. katie: jennifer griffin after pentagon. thank you so much. social media platforms urging ukraine is to lock or protect themselves against russian cyber attacks of major u.s. banks and other cortical infrastructure fear we could be next. ♪ [inspirational soul music] [inspirational soul music] and it's easy to get a quote at libertymutual.com so you only pay for what you need. isn't that right limu? limu? sorry, one sec. doug blows a whistle. [a vulture squawks.] oh boy. only pay for what you need.
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recover from an attack on a national energy grid were major american banks. meanwhile an ominous claims it is launching its own attack against russia. it is interesting, usually when we see cyber attacks we see them from entities that are powerless except for the cyber capabilities in the use of cyber capabilities because they don't have kinetic energy and the ability to launch kinetic energy attacks. here we have a situation where russia has proved itself to be incredibly effective as cyber warfare. they had nuclear weapons. from a strategic standpoint. joey: what were seen on the ground is what you would call an old-school war aware of nutrition, tanks not exactly nuclear weapons are cyber attacks one we fear the most and
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one we expect most. this entire war is the best word to call it has taken a lot of her own military not by surprise. if it bothered me putin, i think they're keeping us guessing on our overall strategy but the best summation they were try to get this done quickly without damaging infrastructure and damaging ukraine to the point, the original idea was to bring in a progression government when i think ukrainians are pushing back to the point that everything is on the table and damaging infrastructure being a part of it. >> is why we see these amazing and inspiring stories on the ground a resistance. as a reporter i always find it fascinating the way our abilities to report evolved over time. obviously social media is been a pretty terrible thing. in a case like this it is amazing it gives voice to people in a way that 15 years ago you
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never would've had in reporting a story like this. >> absolutely i think that's a reason why people are glued to the screen, my friends, every day there waking up every morning hoping and praying president zelensky hasn't been killed, their invested into this because of social media on the news coverage. really quickly on the cyber attacks especially to the u.s. i think we need to take it very seriously. we have been attacked before and we are constantly intact this can be different levels. think back to the colonial pipeline ran somewhere were not talking about grandma or grandpa e-mails were talking about reels and infrastructure damage that will disrupt our way of life. the whole point for putin is to create panic. don't panic whatever might happen or come prepare as much as you can cyber experts tell me the most honorable sector of infrastructure in our country is water and sewage and have been
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updated as other industries to be prepared. .charles: if you were to grade the big tech titans, what kind of rating would you give them? >> i would give elon musk a grade since he gave ukraine internet. i want to comment on nato. the united states is the nato country. last summer the nato alliance in brussels decided cyber attacks can be considered a reason to invoke article five on a case-by-case basis. the white house has not done much to prepare americans at home other than say they're gonna pay more for energy for a cyber attack and as aishah hutton's knee knows if infrastructure goes down. that is a failure on their part. this is not something that is a tit-for-tat for hackers getting into the system in the u.s. this would be an attack on a nato country and create another scenario nato defense and say
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does it qualify as an invocation of one attack on one is an attack on all. charles: an extraordinary display of a lack of preparation to be sure. thank you so much. up next we take you live to lvi. you're prepared for crisis as more than 350,000 ukrainians are now fleeing the country. ♪ with ww, i lost 30 lbs and i feel incredible! i love the new program because the app does all the work for you. it's never too late to start. get your first 3 months free at ww.com. will
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aishah: as thousands flee ukraine many passed through the city near the border with poland. joining us with the latest from lviv is benjamin hall. >> we talk about what would happen in the coming days in the coming weeks. there's two ways to look at this. one is immediate will the russian army defeat ukrainian army and what does that look like. after that comes the idea of what happens if russia takes over. what happens to an occupation. we've been speaking to people who need resistance and is widely thought that that resistance would bleed any russian occupation drive.
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we spoke to whether the leaders of the civil resistance union preparing for that event. >> we drove and drove to the outskirts of lviv on the edge of the field. there we met a mother, and it consultant thrown into the middle of this invasion. now coordinating with civilian resistance. >> i wonder if you can describe what exactly is happening with the coronation and the raising up of the people. >> were on our independently and we are free people and freedom. we have 40 million people who would like to fight russia. >> canada group of civilians, can they hold back the russian army? >> we have resistance. the first thing is the situation. we are regulated. >> , chair you willing to go and
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sacrifice despite. >> anything that is needed to win. we have a lot of people to conflict and protect every part of her land. this can cost her life. however, we know this and we are not terrified. we are on our land, leave us alone and go away from here. you will die here. >> that is a story that you hear no matter who you speak to. those of the government people are the symbiotic. the money being raised around this country goes directly in some cases divine weapons for the army. it is remarkable to see and natalia said they have been preparing since 2004 when the first revolution happened. they are ready for this and they have been preparing although they hope it doesn't happen they fear that it might in their prepared no matter how long it might take.
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aishah: thanks so much reporting live from lviv. i want to bring everybody into talk about the human element which is the refugee crisis were watching unfold as a finding of ukraine and escalates ukraine bracing for a tragic refugee crisis. more than 350,000 ukrainians have fled the country and the unhcr forecasting that could spike up to 4 million ukrainians if this continues to deteriorate which absolutely certainly looks that way. i want to share with you guys the story that i found foreign policy and an afghan girl who escaped the taliban when kabul fell last year. she got on a plane and landed in kyiv, ukraine and now she's trying to flee another war. this is the refugee crisis after refugee crisis after refugee
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crisis. i want to come to you first. you remember that you remember what happened in afghanistan. now were watching this unfold again. give me your thoughts. joey: that's why a lot of americans worried the administration doesn't have a handle on things and doesn't have the ability to respond to these things well read with the refugees come here. it's not selfish but they wonder how this will affect them at home and this is one of the elements that could affect them. talk about these harrowing stories. we interviewed a former marine security guard on "fox & friends" who spent two or three days basically senses started going 30 miles to get off the border. he spent two or three days in their vehicle eating gas station food and using the bathroom on the side of the road hoping to get out of there. this is a marine who had seen some stuff. he said driving out of the city they could see the lights flashing the bombs and the missiles hitting and he could not believe it he said a week
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ago was not profitable to the people that something like this could happen. .aishah: . a administration that is trying to understand the root cause of migration. now we have another tragic situation unfolding on her hands. what more could have been done? >> that is policy that cause human suffering and to get back to the human element when all of this was kicking off. my message to my cousin who lives in corporation she was a child when they fought independence against yugoslavia. she said i just hope that the childhood of the kids are not stolen. hers was stolen from her. that's what your senior seen children at the border with their mothers and allies are being completely taken away from them besides for the surviving but the childhood taken away and be enforced to handle that in
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children leaving behind everything, they may never see photos that they left at their home ever again only the ones from the u.s. that the offender that she has. just to get about those children and the young girl that you mentioned having an upbringing in a situation in an environment like that is really heartbreaking. aishah: charlie wrap it up. charles: it's amazing to look at this footage and is all women and children who are fleeing. the mentor remaining behind and it's also a reminder that this is what the refugee crisis looks like. what we have at our southern border is not refugee crisis. it is a manufactured crisis manufactured by politicians and political purposes grade this is a real refugee crisis. aishah: absolutely. the heroes of the war on ukraine as more powerful russian military needs heavy resistance from very brave ukrainians who are fighting for their lives. were gonna highlight the heroes coming up next.
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have reebok russian advances on their major cities. ukraine's president leading by example, telling the world, the mayor of kyiv a heavyweight boxing champion loading up a machine gun promising to defend his city. earlier in the week to ukrainian guardians of snake island expressed a feeling of the world choosing death before dishonor when confronted by russian warship. [speaking in native tongue] another ukrainian hero stopped russian tanks by blowing up a key bridge and laying down his life in the process per the country's courage has been on full display as citizens and clear danger oppose this russian invasion. watch this ukrainian woman singer national anthem by sweeping away broken glass from her apartment window after hit
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by a russian airstrike ♪ ♪ . this is the first world we get the immediate reaction. we have reporters in the country but like trey yingst was saying we don't get to see everything at once. we do see things that are harrowing and take your breath away. this is not what these people deserve. >> they really do and they show incredibly strong powerful hearts. with gunners abstract into a number of wars where it is really complicated. we don't know who is on which side into her enemies are and her allies and often times the people we claim to be trying to help don't want us there in the first place. this is what it looks like we
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people are fighting for their own homeland. it's a beatable thing. joey: we talk about patriotism and it becomes a political to get this country. this is what patriotism is, is it not? katie: it shows how important it is to be part of your country and it shows the crucial aspect of having an armed citizenry that knows how to defend territory. it is interesting to watch a government handout semi automatic rifles to ukrainians to fight back. i'm glad we have a second amendment here. joey: just to close it out, give us your reaction of these amazing things. aishah: i hope everyone is watching in america. i hope getting a lesson in patriotism. i was talking with secretary rice about this moment that we are in right now as a nation where we are questioning ourselves. we are doubting ourselves, who we are and where were going. there is a lot of fighting and politics like you mentioned. she said something to me. at the end of the day the
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essence of america still exist. that is democracy. i hope that we are watching the ukrainians fighting and really realizing how much that is worth. how much is democracy worth. were watching these people give up their lives for democracy and i hope are learning a very valuable lesson. joey: the snake island video, all 13 of those guardsmen i believe are like a coast guard, all 13 were killed in russia had no reason to go there. they knew this was an unfair advantage and they didn't have a chance to survive. they chose the anyway. i'll get the last word to you. we talk about the american fighting spirit, our national anthem has words that are powerful but we haven't seen it on full display. you think that a resignation with americans and how do you think americans will feel watching this and helping her government supports. >> it is humbling in a moment to reflect on how important all these principles are.
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those guardsmen might've died on the island but they will live on if ukraine manages to pull this off. aishah: we will watch the story and reporting it from the ground from all the different angles. that does it for us "fox report" has continuing coverage of the war on ukraine. that starts right now. [speaking in native tongue] i seen him a couple of hours ago
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