>> you can also cut this off, which stops the ability to reinforce the west. >> jesse: you can see it playing out in real time. thanks so much, pete hegseth. developing situation with the nuclear power plant, radiation detected. terrible. tucker is up next. expert watching "prime time." ♪ ♪ >> tucker: this is a fox news alert. there are new reports into fox news that russian forces have broken through and then entered ukraine's largest nuclear facility. a firefight is now underway there. it is the largest in europe. sources on the ground say that facility is currently on fire. so this looks like potentially a disaster. in kyiv, ukraine, just after -- things were joining us, what you know? >> a disaster if something were to go wrong here, this could be a catastrophe for europe.

the foreign minister tweeting quite recently saying that not only is it under attack, that there is indeed a fire there and that if something happens, this could be a disaster ten times worse than chernobyl. we don't have many details about where exactly the fire is, or what started it, but we do know that russian tanks tried to seize the power plant as they had tried to seize the surrounding town and they started to shell the area so we are watching at the moment and this is not only significant for europe, a nuclear disaster, it's also significant for ukraine. if the station, which provides a court of all the power to the country would it go down, that would leave a huge part of this country out of power at the dead of winter in the middle of a war zone, which is already sacked many of the supplies, the medicines, and frankly prevented people from staying warm in their own homes. the humanitarian crisis here is already bad, 1.1 million people have fled the country in the last eight days alone.

this would add another level to it entirely. we don't know why the russian army would be so foolish as to shell a nuclear power station. you would imagine they would want to keep this online if they would have any hopes of occupying the country but at the same time, vladimir putin has done some foolish things in the past and you know, we're just waiting to see now whether this can come under control. we know firefighters tried to get into put out the blaze but had to pull back because of the shelling. so right now, very, very precarious situation, one where watching closely and one that is starting to get a lot of attention. it was only about a week ago that russian forces moved on chernobyl, so they were able to capture some of the area further north in the country that had that nuclear power station, and again, not many details fire broken out of that nuclear power station, shelling ongoing, clashes their ongoing at the moment we are going to keep watching very closely. >> tucker: benjamin hall from

ukraine. shocking. shocking story, thank you. so we should say we don't know anything beyond what we just showed you. the pictures, a lot of pictures we just put up, we don't know how this happened, we don't know where it's going. nobody does benjamin hall is clearly right when he says this could be a legitimate disaster for europe, but of course the invasion of ukraine already is a legitimate disaster for europe and the rest of the world. europe just lost a huge percentage of its energy supply, which is not a small thing. we are all being reminded of that. so the situation appears to be more chaotic by the day, possibly even spinning out of control and that, we must be honest, is shocking to us. we've been taken by surprise by the whole thing. we are not the only ones who were but we are willing to admit it. the only thing more embarrassing than being wrong in your estimates is pretending that you weren't, so why didn't we see this coming, this total loss of control? well, because we assumed that if things were dire, serious people would be involved in fixing

them. we looked up and we saw kamala harris involved, and that reassured us. harris had just come back from europe where she had been conducting "diplomacy" with our allies, and that appeared to be proof this could not really be a big deal. if the situation in ukraine had been legitimate with serious. if the future of europe in the world hung in the balance as now so obviously it does, of course the biden administration would not have sent kamala harris to fix it, because that's not her job. of kamala harris' job is to trot down to the blue room to greet delegations of tiktok influencers or cut occasional psa's for children's dental health awareness month, which is in february, so we assume she will be working on that right now but averting war with russia, saving the civilized world? come on, that is absolutely not kamala harris 'us job. that was our assumption. but, as noted, we were wrong. why were we wrong? well, we spend a lot of time watching kamala harris. you probably don't unless you

are junior producer at msnbc, you're probably not that familiar with kamala harris. we should say, by the way, we didn't underestimate vladimir putin, we overestimated joe biden. but we knew that once kamala harris was involved, it couldn't really be that serious, and we knew that because this is what she's like. >> it is time for us to do what we have been doing, and that time is everyday. every day it is time for us to agree. this whole thing about the border, we've been to the border. we've been to the border. >> you haven't been to the border. >> and i haven't been to europe. in my pronouns are she/her/hers. looked down at me, what you want, what you want? and i look back up and i said freedom! [laughter] >> you're going to literally see the craters on the moon with

your own eyes! with your own eyes! i'm telling you! >> we must together work together to see where we are, where we are headed, but also see it as a moment, yes, together. it is the perspective of a woman who grew up a black child in america who was also a prosecutor, who also has a mother who arrived here at the age of 19 from india who also, you know, like hip-hop. [laughs] what you want to know? [laughs] >> tucker: this is just not a serious person. not surrounded by serious people and yet we are in an extremely serious moment that demands seriousness. of course we must together work together to see where we are going together but also see there's a moment together. if you've taken peyote, you know what she means. otherwise you're probably baffled. it's time for us to do what we've been doing, and that time is everyday. it's like a poem, but the

illiterate version. when kamala harris speaks get the feeling you're either too dumb or to smart. he settled from them a letter. what do our european allies think of this? they come to the same conclusion. less than two weeks ago as all this was brewing, on the brink, the biden ministrations at that person, kamala harris, to represent united states at the security conference in germany and while she was there she assured the world that she and joe biden had the situation completely under control. yes putin would like to invade ukraine, course he would but not on her watch, not what she was on the same continent, this continent known as europe. no way. harris exuded what novelist carla steele it was off. imagine being in line for a shoe sale on black friday, she had that look, she knew what she wanted and she knew where to find it. and here is how she expressed that result. this is a verbatim quote. "perhaps this is a moment as life does present us with those moments that challenge us to ask

what is our reason for being, and he think we all know the history of nato and its reason for being. the spirit behind the term we use meaning a collection, not a collection of individuals who see themselves as a collection then is one, that's where we are now was quote. so if the vice president of the united states interrupts an adult security conference to talk like that, you conclude that whatever crisis they're talking about at the conference couldn't be imminent. they must have plenty of time to fix it, and that's why they can afford to send kamala harris in the first place because it's actually not as big a deal as it seems. clearly the white house must see the european heads of state as equivalent to tiktok influencers and this is some kind of follow-up. that's what we concluded. how could we not conclude that? and then there was this clue. the day after kamala harris said the words we just read, talked about her reason for being, the day after she said that, she especially encouraged ukraine to

join nato. "i appreciate and admire president zelenskyy's desire to join nato." she said that at a press event. we saw that we thought i was there the biden people must have this under control in some way we don't know about. they must have some secret back channel to putin. if they must've been fully assured that saying something so unbelievably inflammatory is not going to push putin to invade ukraine. we assumed that. how can it be otherwise? it's the united states, it's a real country. the idea that ukraine might join nato obvious what caused this crisis in the first place, whatever you think of it. we know because we have watched for years the more western leaders pushed the idea of ukraine in nato, the closer russians came to invading ukraine. it's not a defense of that, it's an observation of it, that's true. so i've easily no sane person would say something like that with russian troops massed on the ukrainian border. you would have to want an invasion of ukraine to say something like that and at the time we didn't think they did want that so we got it completely wrong. and honestly we continue to get

it wrong ever since. we assumed that once kamala harris humiliated the united states in munich and jeopardized its core interests, that maybe her boss, joe biden, would realize maybe border sartre thing. a beach want to keep the border between two countries from being violent, maybe don't send kamala harris. kamala harris believes boarders are racist or something so i was that's hard for her to protect boarders. a strange personal choice. biden has been around for a while, you think you would know the key to good management is matching the key person with the job. if you're looking for someone to date montel williams, maybe she's the person you would choose. she could be a solid choice, she's done it before. dating montel williams -- you know -- is something that's within her range of experience. she good at it? we can't say. but this new gig, de-escalating a world-ending conflict with the nuclear rogue state? no. no, not when nuclear reactors are on fire. but they're doing it anyway. humiliating our country,

jeopardizing our safety and the future of the world. kamala harris is now the point person on ukraine. she's got the ukraine portfolio. what is she doing with a portfolio? starting at the beginning, explaining things to the american public, if the world economy is going to collapse and are no longer going to be able to afford meat for dinner, if europe is not going to have power, you should probably know why it has nothing to do, they assure you, with the criminal negligence of people kamala harris harris and joe biden. no, it's because of a place called ukraine. listen. >> break it on the layman terms for people who don't understand what's going on and how can this directly affect the people of the united states. >> so ukraine is a country in europe. it exists next to another country called russia. russia is a bigger country. russia is a powerful country. russia decided to invade a smaller country called ukraine. so basically that's wrong. >> tucker: if you are

patronizing people to that degree in the middle of a crisis this serious, you should not be in a position of leadership. translation, i've never read a book in my life, i'm assuming you haven't either. that's talk. ukraine is a country in europe. right, following you, kamala harris. can you imagine? watching this, maybe you're starting to understand what the whole point of the said administration is. the terms of that agenda, only the least capable are allowed to assume positions of authority in the united states. that is how people to judge a guy who can barely drive his own car, wound up in charge of all of our roads. and so all this people got their jobs. it was intentional. washington has worked this way to some extent for a long time. it's just that under this president, the principal has reached its horrible but logical end point. the last president hired michael cohen to be his personal lawyer but the defenses donald trump didn't make michael cohen the attorney general of the unit states. biden would absolutely do that as long as they were transgender. it shouldn't surprise you, it

should horrify you that according to the newspaper, kamala harris is going back to europe to see how much worse she can make this disaster. she will be heading to warsaw, poland, and romania to "show solidarity with ukraine, which means to badly damage key american interests in the inventive new ways you haven't yet imagined. that's what's going on. a crisis that gets more grave by the day whose ramifications are clearly more serious than anyone expected, overseen by people who have no wisdom or foresight or restraint, and fundamentally don't have the interest of our country at heart when they make their decisions. and kamala harris isn't the only problem, but she's the most glaring symbol of it. clay travis is the founder of out kit, host of the clay travis and buck sexton show and he us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. we do so funny. from the beginning that said this is very serious and i have to say i didn't recognize it as serious as it turned out to be. but if it's so serious, then why aren't serious people trying to fix it?

>> it's a fantastic question, tucker. thanks for having me on. there is only things to unpack from what you said but i want to go right there to the question when she was asked about a layman's perspective. kamala harris told us way more about herself and she did anybody else with her answer. because she presumed that everyone in america is an imbecile. she wasn't asked to explain it as if you were a kindergartner. she wasn't asked to explain is if someone was totally clueless. a layperson is an average person in america. when kamala harris answered that, she told all of us that she thinks we are all imbeciles. she things we are all idiots based on the way she addressed us. i was think about this from a lawyer's perspective. ultimately you are judged by a jury if you are a lawyer speaking to that jury. you have to show respect to the jury, to the wisdom of the american population. has kamala harris done that? and when you pick up a joe biden

selecting her at the age of 78 to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, has joe biden respect of the country? because ultimately when you choose a president or a vice president, you don't know what issues and crises they may face in the future, but you do know you're choosing them, tucker, based on their judgment. is there anything that joe biden or kamala harris has done that makes you trust them on anything, much less one of the largest foreign policy potential disasters if we are not already there in anybody's life who is watching this right now? so if you're not going to send serious people to solve serious problems, what in the world are you doing, and why in the world should we respect you at all? and i think that's where the vast majority of the american public is. they are insulted by the lack of respect that kamala harris and by default joe biden are showing them in the way they're talking but the biggest issues facing the country today. >> tucker: and they've assembled a team of people with

a checkable track record of disaster. it's like if you haven't destroyed the world in your past job, you don't get a job in this -- you know, helped run the iraq war is running this? it's so outrageous, their total unwillingness to think about the consequences to this country and the world in the things they do. everything is a moral lecture. hey, stop it, i'm an adult, no more more lectures, tell me how you're going to fix this and they have no idea. >> think about this. if you need open heart surgery, the last thing you want to know is anything other than argue the best open heart surgeon anywhere in this country? that's all you care about for you or your family. we are right now in a situation in our country or we are trying to do open heart surgery. does anybody think that joe biden kamala harris are the two best people who could be performing open-heart surgery for this country? it's a disaster and that's the unfortunate spot that we have found ourselves in and i don't know how it's going to get better.

they are not certainly going to be helping situation at all. >> tucker: they are going to be leveraging the situation to clampdown on civil liberties in this country and hurt their political enemies. that's true, you watch. it's really scary. sorry to get all bound up. great to see you. >> thank you, great to see you as well, thank you. >> tucker: this seems like a really significant story to us. our team's hearing more about what appears to be a massive assault on the largest nuclear power point in, which is the largest in the country. tracking the development tonight in a country and happy to have them with us right now. lucas, what you know? >> tucker, this isn't just the largest nuclear power plant in ukraine, it's the largest in europe, one of the top ten largest in the world. in right now firefighters can't even get in there to put it out because they are getting shot at. the russians are blocking the entrance. it's worth pointing out that we are not sure exactly at the plant what's on fire. on social media it appears that it's the administrative buildings that are on fire, not the reactor itself. of course this plant has six

nuclear reactors. they will be armed with a kill switch, so you will be able to shut those reactors down if needed, but these reactors supply a quarter of ukraine's power, certainly a lot of concern here on the ground in ukraine because this war is now taking a different dimension. if you're going after a power plant and shutting this country down and turning it dark, what better way than to start at this powerpoint, but certainly potential environmental damage and catastrophe. ukraine's foreign minister on social media saying if this thing blows, it will be ten times larger than chernobyl, tucker. i don't have to remind you what that means. nuclear experts are saying it's highly doubtful that this reactor will blow, but certainly it is early. it does appear like the fire is in the administrative buildings in the reactors, all six of them, or had a different part of the plant, tucker buried >> tucker: lucas tomlinson, one of the most straight reporters on the ground in ukraine. we are grateful you joined us tonight. thank you. so the white house is requesting

billions of dollars in aid to ukraine. congress is very likely to grant it. it ukraine is a disaster, we need to do our best to help fix it. there are also disasters underway in this country, so we have to ask, how much will go to our border? that's a fair question. we will ask it straight ahead. ♪ ♪

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>> tucker: this is a fox news alert. there's been some sort of military engagement at ukraine's largest nuclear power plant. it appears to be continuing now, just after 3:00 a.m. in the morning. the facility, which is the largest in europe, is on fire. we know that for certain, we believe that russian and ukrainian forces are currently battling for control over it. very obvious what could go wrong. scary moment. we will continue to monitor development's from ukraine. so back to this country. the white house is now seeking another $10 billion in emergency aid for ukraine. if this country has sent billions of dollars already over the past few years in an effort to prevent russia from invading. j.d. vance, who is running for senate in the state of ohio, is not necessarily against supporting ukraine, but he has asked the question, wait a second, we have a border too that also needs protecting and we thought we would ask him to

explain a little more what he means. j.d. vance joins us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. so what's your position on this? >> i think it's pretty simple, tucker. obviously there is something very tragic happening in ukraine right now. >> tucker: yes. >> and i'm fine with sending aid. you know, food, medicine, other supplies of course to ukrainians but at the end of the day, our leaders should care for their own country first. and the citizens of this country should expect that their leaders should focus on our problems first and when you see our country obsessing, right, every cable news channel, every single democratic politician -- even frankly a lot of garbage republicans -- obsessed with ukraine all the time, but completely ignoring the conditions of their own country, i think a lot of us are looking runs and what about our sovereignty, what about the 2,000 illegal aliens that come in every single month in this country and one of the things i'm proposing, tucker, is that look, we're going to send $10 billion of aids to the ukrainian, what republicans

should do, but we should do to look after our own voters is to say that for every dollar that goes to the ukrainians we should send $3 to the american southern border. finished president trump's border wall, actually gets more border patrol agents to control that crisis at our own border and if we did that i think our citizens would feel like their own leaders were actually looking out for them. >> tucker: it is interesting how many members of congress, including republicans, can step over the lifeless body of a fentanyl addict living and attend outside the u.s. capitol, someone using fentanyl that came across our open southern border to become very emotional and camera about ukraine's border. i think you can be upset about both, but you should be upset most of all about the degradation of your own country, isn't that kind of the whole job? >> you'd think so, tucker, and the problem i have on people always tell me -- the criticism that i get from the garbage republicans as much as the democrats is, well, americans can walk and chew gum at the same time, we can focus on both of these problems. if we can focus on both of these

problems, why don't we? if we can control our own southern border and also look after ukraine, why don't we do that? this constant slogannerring, the ridiculous talking points, the day idea that we can look after both of these things at the same time is frankly contradicted by the evidence we see before our eyes. >> tucker: government by outdated bumper sticker? yeah, i've noticed that before. it's funny, why do people feel so -- i guess the word is triggered -- by what you just said? some people really hate you for saying that. i think most honest people would acknowledge that that's an entirely fair point. >> you know, i think that there is something where the propaganda machine, the same people who have been wrong but every foreign policy crisis for the past 20 years, are totally up in arms about this, and again, tucker, you can acknowledge that this tragedy in one place while being a little bit more concerned about the tragedy it's closer to home. a lot of people of course are shocked by some of the images that we are seeing.

but on the campaign trail a couple weeks ago, i talked to a woman who picked up her teen and 14-year-old boys who had been sex-traffic across the southern border. that bothers me. it bothers the american leaders, they should be looking after their own country. in theory should be able to focus on both proms at once but let's focus on the problems that are closer to home, solve those first, and then we can go and worry about the rest of the world. by the way, the people who have been worried about ukraine for the past six, five, ten years, those people have been trying to prevent a russian invasion, which are this way they failed so i don't know why we're listening to these people in the first place even if we do take their ukraine obsession at face value. >> tucker: that's exactly right. if these are people with no track record discernible success an end said a litany of tragedies in their wake, and all of them -- that's true for all of them -- whether it's the secretary of state or david from on twitter. only disaster. so why do we listen to anything

they say? >> i think because there was a lot of money and listening to those people. there's an entire industry of think tanks, defense contractors, consultants of lobbyists who get rich off of continuing to give -- excuse me, giving these people jobs, but also following their advice. and i think they're really shameful thing, tucker, at the end of the day, is of course the democrats are going to follow along with these people but you've got a lot of garbage republicans who keep on doing the same thing. i've been attacked by multiple candidates even in my senate race for having the audacity of suggesting that maybe american leaders should put the citizens of their own country first. it's ridiculous. >> tucker: you seem like a thoroughly moderate person to me. it's interesting that what you're saying is making us so mad and it tells you more about them then you. i appreciate your coming on, good luck. >> thanks. >> tucker: we are monitoring exactly what is happening at that massive nuclear power plant

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>> tucker: ask any weight or how well liberals tip. not very well. they love humanity but not very much about people. she screams at the people who work for her. here's a great example. according to a lawsuit, lightfoot was upset about a deal to allow the christopher columbus statue at a columbus day parade last year. that's her main concern, as people are getting murdered on the street. she explained to lawyers that "my -- is bigger than yours in

the italians, i have the biggest in chicago. by the way, we are not going to weigh in one way or another because factually we don't know if it's true. radio show host in chicago joins us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. first to the anatomy part of this, can you confirm or deny her claim? >> i can't confirm it, i have no way to confirm it, how ridiculous, how ridiculous of a statement is this? >> tucker: what is so interesting though, to levels, one that here she is, this caring person all about diversity and everything but she's truly awful, we know for a fact, to the people beneath her, unceasingly horrible. >> she purports to be from the side that has unicorns and butterflies all over our city parks. hate as no home here signs all over the place. yet she -- but she is the antithesis of that.

and we've talked about this before. this is a good city with good, hardworking people. some of the people in office are democrats like ray lopez, who i pray runs for mayor of our great city. she goes against every -- and sheet -- she fights with everybody. she can't get a thing done. she talks like this to the people of the park district over a statue? are you kidding me? what kind of virtue signaling is this? and this is the way she talks to the older men and women in chamber and this is the way she talks to the chicago police department. this is why we can't get any recruits to come and police chicago. this is why men and women are retiring at warp speed. this is why there's no respect here, you said it yourself, what we have here is that we have kids dying, hotel rooms that are empty, and what they'll tell you here in chicago, just like they will anywhere in the world if you're to believe covid, this is all because of covid, nobody wants to come to chicago because of covid. no, people that want to come to chicago because they don't feel safe. we talk about ridiculous stuff

like this when we have real problems that go without getting addressed. and sad. >> tucker: it's always the symbolism they care about most, not the physical reality rated thanks so much for coming out tonight. >> thank you. >> tucker: don't expect lori lightfoot to apologize, much less in syria, politicians apologize. when they apologize they do it on your behalf or they tell you they are sorry, they just care too much. they are such good people like they had no choice. martin hyde is an exception to this rule. and that's what we want to talk to him. run for congress in florida. he got caught being rude to a police officer on a body cam video. so first the bad part, and that the good part. watch. >> the reason for the stop, you were observed going 57 and 40 and you are on your phone texting doing that. that was at euclid.

i'm pointing in the direction where it was. go right ahead, sir. >> you know who i am, right? >> yes i do. can i see your license and registration. yes, sir. i'm sorry? i still have a job to do, sir. >> tucker: so that was bad. congressional candidate from sarasota caught on tape being rude to a cop. what makes him interesting and why we want to talk to him, is he said that was horrible, you caught this, i behave like a jerk because i am a jerk sometimes, i'm sorry. who said that? well, martin hyde said that and that's what he's joining us right now. thanks so much for coming on. i thought your apology was the most unbelievable thing i've ever read in my life. can you restate it for our viewers who didn't read it? >> you know. what can i tell you? i -- i did what i did. it's not the first time i've

done it to -- i'm one of those people that people like to have in their corner when there's a fight because i don't shy away from it. unfortunately sometimes tough to switch it off. let me just say one thing. i'm horribly embarrassed. it was a shocking thing to do. the difference between me and most of the marks in d.c. is that if you ask me the weather, i'm not going to tell you the time. i don't understand this i didn't impale -- i didn't inhale mentality. it doesn't make any sense to me. we've said this a lot. the people that are in their in d.c., not only are they very old, but they are very dishonest. and they can't even be honest about their feelings and their faults. my feeling at fault is very simple, i've got a smart mouth, got a bad temper if you put me and poke the bear, and on occasion -- this is one i got caught on body cam. the worst thing is i knew there

was a camera there and i still did it. it makes me look like lori lightfoot's sidekick here. i am embarrassed. >> tucker: first of all, should say it's not only i didn't inhale, but also i didn't impale, that is also frequent claim. >> yeah, sure. >> tucker: what was the reaction to your apology? what do people say when they read that? >> well, it depends. if you are woke and if you're a snowflake, then nothing is enough. hundreds of phone calls from -- it's a geography lesson of the united states. the funny thing is is that my cell phone is advertising and comes right through to me. and i answered a lot of the calls and they were quite taken aback. they said you've got your 30 seconds, tommy, knock yourself out, what part of me don't you like, what you think i should do to myself today? and it was -- it was cathartic. if got to be able to poke fun at yourself. a lot of the issues that we face

here serious. the reason i'm running for congress is -- the biggest issue in this country is not the people with the masks. they are easy to spot. the real problem that with god, and if seen this a lot with you on the show, you talk about it a lot, the writers. the establishments, the kevin mccarthy, the mitch mcconnell, and in my case it's, you know, left turn buchanan, as i call him. this is a guy who's up next to be on ways and means. this is a guy who voted to stay in the paris climate record. he voted on hr eight, gun control. this is a guy that is simply not fit to call himself a conservative. >> tucker: i think that's a very nice description. i appreciate your coming on sunday. martin hyde running for congress in florida. thank you. speaking of florida, the governor of that state had the audacity to tell students they were allowed to take their masks off since masks are very

effective. the media accused him of bullying. he joins us next to respond. also as we told you, some sort of attack is underway the largest nuclear plant in ukraine. what is happening and why? new information, we will tell you what we know. lucas tomlinson joins us after the break. ♪ ♪ nd other liars. the time you spent on the docks, the banks, the boats. the lines you cast and hooks you set. these moments you share with the people you love. the fish you never forget, and the tales that get taller with every retelling. make memories that'll last a lifetime with bass pro shops and cabela's. your adventure starts here.

♪ ♪ >> tucker: with the midterm elections approaching, suddenly everyone is admitting that surgical masks actually don't stop the coronavirus. if they did, may be close to a million americans wouldn't have died from it. even joe biden and nancy pelosi have stopped pretending, but some schools haven't gotten the memo, they are still forcing kids to wear masks. no excuse. in ones to come afforded governor ron desantis was a press conference at the university of south florida. at the he came to the podium and saw several students wearing masks. >> you do not have to wear those masks, please take them off. it's not doing anything and we have to stop with his covid

fear. so if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous. >> tucker: [laughs] well it is ridiculous! and if no one else's going to tell them, probably good he told them. it's not good to lie to kids. it makes them grow up to be liars. and as of course you may have noticed, that enraged the media. they were totally infuriated by this because it refuted the lies that they have told for years about children being forced to wear masks, so here's how they reacted to what he said. >> republican governor of florida today, ron desantis, berating high school kids for wearing masks at his indoor news conference. >> where was that guy? >> that was mean. >> i mean seriously -- was that guy raised in a barn? this is a question i asked. who raised him? >> this is the governor of your state, and it's televised -- like you are on video. these kids are already in age

where people tease and bully and you saw that girl scrambling to take us off like what do i do. to say that to a bunch of minors. >> one kid looked at him like shut up. there were some kids that did not take off the mask, and i thought that's good parenting right there. >> tucker: they are such liars, they will say anything and if you think you are gaining momentum, they want to crush you. so just to be clear, telling kids they don't actually have to wear masks because masks don't work was boring but threatening to throw them out of school and destroy their lives if they don't wear a mask, science. we want to straighten us out with the governor afforded himself. thanks for coming on. so why did you say that? good evening. >> well, none of the adults were wearing masks and it seemed to me that someone told those kids they had to do it, so i just wanted to make it very clear they do not need to be doing it. obviously in florida it's been a -- it's a free state, you can do it. but i think it's important to

point out there is no reason to do it for young and healthy kids, especially in the state of florida. we never had a mask mended of course, but our guidance from our health department is not to wear these cloth masks, and i think it needs to be said, because people have been lied to for two years, and so i was -- i didn't want it to be thinking that they were told to do this by me because i certainly wouldn't do that. and you know, they talk about oh, by letting someone have a choice to take off the mask and welcoming that choice, that is somehow bullying. tucker, bullying is locking kids out of school, which they did. bullying is forcing kids to wear masks for eight hours a day, which they did for two years and are only stopping now because the polling has changed. bullying is kicking people out of work because of vaccine mandates. we fought all of those policies in florida, we lifted people up, and we liberated them from local school boards and governments that imposed them. >> tucker: it's a little weird to hear criticism from people who are unmasked sitting in

crowded studios saying that you're immoral for telling kids who are at a lower risk than the adults who were unmasked in the studios not to wear masks. people can't see themselves i guess? >> and it creates a two-tier society. you have adults that are not masked and then the students are all masked or you have a crowded restaurant where everyone is having a good time and they make the servers wear masks. i reject the two-tier society. i say every time we go we are at a big event and the servers are wearing it, they should be liberated from those masks. it is political theater. they are doing it for the appearance, they are not doing it because it's having any meaningful medical impact. >> tucker: but everyone loves a caste system, especially when they are at the top of it, right? that's what they are demanding. >> exactly, and we seen time and time again all these left-wing lockdown politicians, they will impose mandates on others, and then they will be out cavorting, and by the way, they escaped to florida and live under our

freedom time and time again and we've documented that as well, so it is a hierarchy, and that's what they're trying to impose and we reject that in florida, and yes, if i had people that i think are being bullied into doing masks, i'm going to let them know you have a right to take it off and am also going to tell them the truth, which not a lot of adults have told them, that it's not effective to wear them in the first place. >> tucker: amen. cover your face, servant! governor ron desantis of the free state of florida, great to see you tonight. thank you. >> thanks. >> tucker: fox news alert, fighting apparently at ukraine's largest nuclear plant. what is going on? it's hard to know details but we are going to get as close as we can to finding out. lucas tomlinson is in ukraine for us tonight, it's just before four in the morning and he brings us the latest. hey, lucas. >> hey, tucker. good news, radiation levels at the plant appear normal but as you mentioned it's never good to have ongoing hostilities next to her nuclear power plant. this isn't just the largest nuclear power plant in ukraine,

it's the largest in europe, top ten largest in the world, supplies about a quarter of ukraine's power. the good news is firefighters have been allowed to access the plant and if you are showing the photos of the ongoing video youtube channel of the fire, it appears that the fire is not actually on the reactors, six nuclear reactors, but they are actually facing the administered a building so the fire is not at the reactor, it is in the parking lot and the administrative buildings, so that is good news, but it is certainly concerned that there is ongoing hostilities next to six nuclear reactors, tucker. >> tucker: lucas tomlinson, a man who will not be sleeping tonight. we are grateful you're joining us, thank you. so many things going on at once around the world. how do you synthesize them? it takes a very wise and smart person to do that. victor davis hanson is one of the rare few who can. he's a senior fellow at the hoover institution and joins us now to make sense of what we are seeing. thanks for joining us. some it up if you will.

>> it's very setanta goal what putin is doing. you would think since according to president were crowned, if things are going to get worse, but he's going to take all of ukraine, why would he want to even get near a nuclear plant that he intends on occupying the country and i think it is sort of -- i had to destroy the village of ukraine to save it. two months he leveled grozny, eight months in the chechnya war and then he just said i had to destroy it to save it from itself. if that's one thing. the other thing is you mentioned chernobyl today in europe, 35 years later and people get shivers up their back still. that was one of the most traumatic events, whether it was really a serious as people thought, i don't know, but he has been recklessly saber rattling about nuclear weapons in the nuclear option, and when he gets anywhere near a nuclear plant, he is sending a message to not just ukrainians, but the europeans, and capable of anything at anytime and you thought chernobyl was bad, just

watch me. and of course i don't know if he's thinking of about this, but is the largest exporter of coal, natural gas, and oil in the world and a lot of people have said if we are going to wean ourselves off of carbon fuel, it's going to have to be through nuclear power and batteries or tesla's but we need to generate cheap electricity, and that's one way to do it, so i think is also saying you know, there was the japanese reactor 3-mile island, chernobyl, things happen, and it's not a very reliable power source, so you better be very careful if you think nuclear power is an option. so he's got a lot of agendas but this idea that he's crazy and he's mad, i wish it were true, but he's not, he is satanic, he's conniving, he's clever, and i don't think we have appreciate what we are up against, he's not stupid. and he is saying to the world how many people today remember grozny, just like hitler said, who remembers the armenians? how many people remember that

touching more in 1999? nobody does, that's what he thinks. he's thinking it's bad now and i'm going to do anything i can, even if it's get near nuclear plant because in ten years you will be buying my oil in ukraine will be part of russia and you'll be all scared of me as you were before this started. >> tucker: may ask your question? >> we got to take it very seriously. >> tucker: for sure, i think that's exec the right. but i wonder if in ten years we will be buying russian energy. i mean, the chinese apparently knew this invasion was coming, it withheld that information from the unit states, they've been russia's greatest backer in this. putin met with president xi before it, so i wonder if the obvious isn't true, that russia will be the power plant, the gas station, for any emerging china going forward. >> yeah, i think it would like to be the gas station for china, but it would like to have a very energy-scarce world and they have been propagandists for green energy in the united states for 30 years and trying to -- we keep saying we

are beating a dead horse but china is watching all of this and they're just saying well, will taiwanese fight like ukrainians? with sanctions work against us but they're working against the russians? will they flood taiwan with javelins and stingers are not? and this is kind of a laboratory of things and the iranians are watching it the city israel as well. but he's a formidable enemy, and he's in total war and this idea that he's going to stop because he's had a setback and we hope he has more, but i think he's willing to do any and everything because he feels that ultimately people are going to say wow, vladimir putin absorbed all of ukraine. he's on his way to recreating mother russia. that's something and we are scared of him. that's how he thinks and we've got to be prepared for that. we should have been -- you know, we got to get more weapons to the people who want to use them. final thing, tucker, very quickly. we always say that nato, we are always worried. and i said that too and i know that you have that these people will not pay their 2% and they

might not fight if invaded, my gosh, it might be the opposite with ukrainians. they fight so well that nato might -- it would be very dangerous to put them in nato but they've been an inspiration to what nato members should be doing, so it's kind of change that dialectic a little bit. >> tucker: yeah, i mean, you sort of wonder if other people might ask if nate -- what is the purpose of nato? has nato acquitted itself? well, would you say so far? >> well, not so far, and it's not you saying that, and if not me, it's the german chancellor. >> tucker: i know! >> because he just repudiated 30 years of german nato policy, defense policy, energy policy and the subtext was everything we said against united states, and we argued with all these presidents, it was all wrong, you were right in the past and now we are refuting everything, we are going to be a good nato member. that's what he said. >> tucker: maybe it's worth

defending your own country. who knows. victor davis hanson, appreciate it, good to see you tonight. thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: fox will be on the story of course all night. we will be back tomorrow at 8:00 p.m. eastern and of course we will see him back you then. of sean hannity is next. sickle ♪ ♪ >> sean: welcome to "hannity." we begin with this fox news alert. a very dangerous situation unfolding, the largest nuclear power plant in europe is now under attack by russian forces in ukraine. moments ago we witnessed explosions going off all along the nuclear facility, which appears to now be on fire. according to the ap elevated levels of radiation are now being detected know this power plant as fears that a nuclear meltdown is a real possibility u can imagine, this is a very scary and very dangerous