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[background noises] [background noises] [background noises] eric: russia container has devastating assault on ukraine. the country's president speaks today virtually with u.s. lawmakers.
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what a merit zelenskyy asking them to send more at lethal aid to fend off the all out assault by vladimir putin and also asking for warplanes to protect his nations. this comes as putin's work creates a widespread devastation across ukraine. a cease-fire to evacuate civilians into hard-hit cities has not appeared to hold. meantime, the russian leader is mourning the rest against imposing a no-fly zone over ukraine. cinque if nay outdid it would be considered quote participation in the armed conflict. but as the war rages on russia and ukraine will hold another round of peace talks happening on monday. that only buys more time for putin horrendous atrocities. hello everyone welcome to fox news life i am eric shawn. arthel: hello eric, hello everyone i am arthel neville. the fighting now taking a growing humanitarian toll is
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estimates 1.4 million people have fled the violence in ukraine. many of them traveling to poland. moscow's military pummels in major cities across ukraine with attacks hitting civilian sites like hospitals, apartment buildings and even schools. russian troops reportedly closing in on a second nuclear power plant a day after europe's largest nuclear power plant become one of the latest targets. when russian forces shelled the plant early yesterday morning, briefly sparking a fire which was later contained, ukraine today releasing new video from inside the plant. [background noises] [background noises] [inaudible]
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arthel: that's at announcement blaring over the pa system warning russian forces who now control the nuclear power plant to stop shooting at the facility or you risk worldwide security. russia also making grounds along ukraine's coast where it controls the strategic port city of kherson. and it's headed toward mariupol. vladimir zelensky harshly criticizing nato earlier today for refusing to impose a new fly zone over the country as russia watches relentless attacks from the skies. >> is this that nato we wanted? is this the alliance you are building? today, the alliance leadership gave the green light for further bombing of ukrainian cities who are refusing to make a no-fly zone. you could close our skype but i do not know who you can protect and whether you can protect nato countries. arthel: fox team coverage from
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ukraine and pulled her going to be in with the benjamin hall he's on the ground in kyiv, benjamin. >> arthel as you have just outlined the testament to this as a nation under war on all sides. vladimir putin sources continue to attack civilians there is no doubt about it the death toll that also continues to rise. in a town just outside kyiv but we are now there is constant shelling. what we saw today through video was a see how humanity trying to flee that village. thousands of civilians trying to flee across a bombed out bridge to a relative safety of the capitol. how long kyiv itself remain safe though, nobody knows. because russian forces are increasing their push toward the city it is thought it'll be a matter of time until they try to take it. across the country they are besieging other cities. putin's forces continued to bombard civilians brick and mariupol a cease-fire was
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announced for chillout to evacuate. that fell apart on us immediately as they shall be safe corridors outward president zelenskyy had a call with saturn's earlier today he reiterated this he needs more weapons but he also tore into what he called the week nato refusing the no-fly zone. and he spoke about russia's military losses. >> the russian army did not reach its goal. there's killed service men. it's a horrific figure. there is boys 18 -- 20 result very young boys almost children. they of what they are sent to fight for. >> ukrainians are doing their very best to fight back. they have had some success. this video shows a russian helicopter being shot down release by the ukrainians and posted with the caption welcome to hell. it is giving some people hope. as a result we continue to seek defiant scenes and we hear defiant voices. the u.s. has said it is trying to do everything it can there are reports of the pole and had
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approved the donation of the planes to this country, bags which ukrainian fighters pilots could fly, the u.s. apparently block those braid that is what lindsey graham said. very interesting tale. but experts suggest the u.s. is concerned about escalation should planes be delivered to ukraine, arthel. arthel: okay i'm going to speak to congressman in our 4:00 p.m. hour i'll ask him about the blocking of those megs request from poland. meanwhile a third round of negotiations announced or monday. russian ukrainian delegation. is there any hope this may lead to a breakthrough? putin and his people could not agree to a cease-fire. or is this just merely a ploy that will buy putin more time to further plan his attack on ukraine? >> president zelenskyy has said all along he believes this will only be salt their dialogue. he's willing to give it a chance.
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this is the third step of the negotiation but very little has come from it so far group vladimir putin time and time again going back years using negotiations as a way to buy time. to show he's talking on the sidelines with the same time escalating the conflict but if you look at the last negotiation that happened just a few days ago, the russian sent a delegation that included and was led by former minister of culture while ukrainians sent senior ministers of foreign affairs bridges shows at that point note negotiations not so serious about this. the feeling is both sides are get the best negotiating is possible for the russians will want to have more charity before they negotiate ukraine's want to hold back the russians a little longer to show the russians able expect heavy losses on the troops of this continue. no, it is not show the negotiations will lead to a break there. there was an interesting development when the prime minister of israel traveled to russia today to meet with vladimir putin they meant for almost three hours. there some diplomacy going on at
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that level as well. but again, the french president has been reaching out to putin speaking to him that amounted to nothing. it does not feel here at this point on the ground any negotiations any diplomacy are ready to move forward, arthel. arthel: had benjamin, it is nine oh 7:00 p.m. they are. obsolete very dark. are you hearing any shelling or anything near where you are or in the distance? >> know it has been relatively quiet tonight. let's hope it stays that way. but usually, yes it picks up towards the evening pretty here artillery shells you hear the lights and the background as the shells a land spirit last night there was some gun fire nearby. it has been quiet. for the moment there is not been a big push on the capitol. many people are waiting embracing but we do not know when it's going to come sorely people in the capitol bracing for two. you don't see people in the capitol this is a bustling city of 3 million people they are all indoors now for that stocked up already on their food. all you see our soldiers pretty
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seat tanks you see sandbags coming see concrete barriers, waiting for the urban street fight they fear is coming. the fear is also they were start to soften up with civilians in the city first with airstrikes, rocket launchers and missiles as ident and other cities. putin's modus operandi pretty said it time and time again. siri has did it, chechnya he's done it that is what we are expecting if and when he finally decides to make that push. arthel: is going to ask you that about the town i see behind you some twinkling lights and some of the looks like apartment buildings or something behind you. it does seem as you reported people are staying indoors for their hunkering down for what might come next. >> yes. as we've been reporting a 1.4 million people fled the country many simply have nowhere to go many people want to say they want to stay and fight for you can attribute that to perhaps zelenskyy what a leader like that can do to galvanize
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his own people but people are really galvanized. and by western support although they say they are very grateful for the stingers and the javelins that come in and the ammunition that comes in. look, i think it's remarkable to see how money could buy staying and fighting for they have been some really significant victories by the ukrainians the downing of planes and of helicopters, the holding back of convoys. think there's a sense of optimism. there is a sense of you asked them ten days over that that they be able to hold the russians back the song, many people would have been more pessimistic read this a real sense of optimism there even though they're facing down over 2000 russian troops a well-equipped army pay perhaps there's a drink of light here. but yes, some people have nowhere to go for it if you do speak to refugees as we have done fleeing the country many do not know where they are going. so the choice is take a bag, weight can carry on your back they go to a country you don't know, to a house that you have never been to about four prepare haps sleep on the street or stay and try and try to fight? and protect your land? it is a difficult decision i
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don't think any of us know how we would truly decide unless were actually put in that position it is remarkable to see the bravery of the people in this country. whatever happens they will fight until the end. it is an interesting time the next few days will be critical, arthel. arthel: they are remarkable. the world stands behind them there in ukraine. you're right president zelenskyy is definitely a hero but he is not a bully he is the real deal, benjamin hall thank you so much. eric. eric: it with ukrainians have the courage and defiance there's also desperation growing for thousands of them paid were trying to get out of the country and away from the continuing russian onslaught caused by vladimir putin. many refugees carrying anything they can and a search for getting out. like tobin is at the center in ukraine that's are many refugees and up as they start their journey, hi mike. >> a lot of them start from where the fighting is severe
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towns like mariupol. where the cease-fire was supposed to go into effect today. the same delegations must meet on monday but all they've been able to achieve it thus far is the agreement for the people in those two towns to get out today for the cease-fire was supposed to go into effect from 9:00 a.m. through 4:00 p.m. shortly after the cease-fire went into effect, new shelling started and the agreement fell apart. >> we are addressing the russian side to stop showing return to the cease-fire regime give a possibility to realize the humanitarian corridor. children, women and the elderly population can leave the area. >> and remarkable video from the northwest of kyiv to see a russian helicopter taken out apparently by stinger missile. this is a kind of weaponry that's coming to the ukrainian fighters and all of these aid packages. we know now from reporting from her own at jennifer griffin
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240 million of the three to $50 million in aid has already made it out to the fighters on the front line part u.s. defense official said they're very impressed with the efficiency with which in fact they call it unprecedented the speed at which the ukrainians are able to get this military aid out to where it is needed. and they are very impressed with the effectiveness that they are putting those weapons to work, eric and arthel for. >> yes that video is spectacular. that is continuing by the brave you're creating. meanwhile mike you are in the west that has been a sanctuary for now. what is your feeling that the russian troops could start advancing to where you are? >> well, the people are fearful of that and they are preparing. thus far as far as what you have seen in terms of target, the russians pick target that essentially would have been the ukrainians ability to put up air defenses for they've taken out airstrips it. looks like they had some activity added airstrip a little to the east of here.
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possibly marking a target. but they have not started hitting inside of the city which creates the possibility it's russians are busy where they are in the eastern part of the country. busy in kyiv and they're trying to get control of those coastal towns predict rates a speculation that they may use the river as a natural boundary, anchor it in kyiv get control of kia get access to the water they won't necessarily come to the west that is a speculation but we'll have to see what plays out over time for. >> we have these pictures of the ongoing war. you have cars behind you it is 9:00 p.m. at night on a saturday night. it really is a contrasting picture that is being presented to the world when we have on one side the horrible devastating bombing of civilians, property and the war crimes that are being committed by vladimir putin. and yet seemingly peaceful scene where you are right now. >> it is not normal life out
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here. it is very, very serious the traffic on the streets is considerably lighter. most of your restaurants and stores are shut down now. the mayor out here has limited any alcohol sales he wants the people to be vigilant, serious and ready for action in the event something should happen. he said when this is over and the russians are repelled the people here in lviv can celebrate but it's not life as normal part as out of the streets the middle of the day people still going about their tasks, going about their errands. there is no joy in this town appeared they are a nation that is being invaded and there very well aware of it. eric: they have a spirit to say the russians will be propelled, mike tobin for us in, thank you mike. arthel: mike and eric, poland is now the epicenter of this unfolding humanitarian crisis for the foreign minister said the country has already taken in more than 700,000 refugees from ukraine. that number is expected to grow as russia shows no signs of ending his war.
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alex hogan is alive in eastern poland with more, alex. >> hi arthel. a lot of the people who are now here live in kyiv over just saw benjamin. and then from there they traveled to lviv for safety we just heard from mike and eventually take a train here to poland. behind meat you can see the walls are packed with people all day long we have seen more and more people come in and out, train after train arriving here in poland finding safety. people have been sleeping here all day long reaching out to loved ones who may live in other countries asking them if they can live with them because they have nowhere to go. until a week ago they were living completely different lives people come here with their pets, with whatever close they can carry. small bags, anything they could grab with their hands before they quickly fled packing onto trains paid one woman i talked
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with, maria grabbed her four month old baby girl and hit the road. >> we were in kyiv, for days we were in cars. >> she traveled with her mother, her niece and her friend and again her child just cheerfully explaining it's too soon to talk about the fact her husband was left behind, he being between the age of 18 and 60 like all men in the country need to stay behind. cheerfully she explained she has no idea. she has no idea when or little baby girl. arthel: alex reports no one would choose to leave home. given the chance, have you gotten a sense most of those wonderful ukrainians sitting there in this terrible condition
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will return home and try to rebuild given the opportunity? >> arthel, every single person i have talked with said yes they will go back. the question is for all of these people that you see, when will that be? will they be able to go back home anytime soon? is there a home to return too. what will that look like? all of them have said there's no doubt in their mind they will go back to their country that they love so dearly. but right now they need to be safety. they need to protect their loved ones if they could for there's one moment i talked with, a mother who left with her two children and her husband had to stay behind. she said for her mental health all she was doing was reciting the same poem over and over hoping it would bring her some comfort. >> if there is peace in your home there will be peace in your country. if there is peace in your country there will be peace all over the world.
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>> would seem that time and time again today. people who are hopeful and breaking down just realizing what they have just gone through to get here. again, this is an example of how busy it has been today. but every ten -- 15 minutes we are seeing more and more people come. 1.4 million people fled ukraine and nearly 800,000 of them have arrived here in poland the country said it will welcome whoever needs refuge. and that's what we are seeing here today, arthel. arthel: they are fleeing potenza war, they did not know they were coming there. they are not sure where they were going, they know they are receiving open arms they're being welcomed with open arms there. but do you know, it seems like you're in a train station i'm not sure do you know alex of some of those residents are now trying to go other places other than poland? >> yes. so we are seeing people go all over from here. this was really the first stop,
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this train station leading straight from lviv to arrive here. from here there are other trains going across poland, across europe, and also there are people in this train station hall who drove hear from other countries and are holding up pieces of cardboard explaining where they came from and how many open seats they have in their car willing to take anyone back with them. even some offering for the refugees to come live with them until they find somewhere safe to state. if i've clearly they are getting that warm welcome from the people there in poland. do they realize the world is on their side too? have they gotten that impression? have you been able to tell them that? >> yes. i think what they are seeing here today, the volunteers that have flown in from all over the world. we met people who wanted to help they flew in from different countries not even knowing if they would be able to help but people speaking different languages to them saying you are
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not alone. offering food right here there people who offer cars people who are posting even online sink they will give their legal services to anyone who need help figuring out legally where do i go from here? doctor's office is saying if you need help we will help you. medical treatment here, there will be places for people to sleep who do not know anyone else in the country. i do think despite the sadness we are seeing some relief on these people's faces knowing they are not been pushed out of here and we they will be welcomed in people. >> they may not understand each other but compassion is certainly universal language. alex hogan live in poland thank you so much, alex. eric: sink human generosity for fellow mankind. meanwhile this other struggling development, that startling developed pressure poorly holding u.s. basketball star she was playing there. "new york times" says the russian federal custom services has detained debbie mva star
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brittney griner on drug charges for the third is reportedly claim they found vape cartridges that contained oil in her luggage as she was trying to leave for moscow's airport. christina coleman from the very latest on this, christina. >> hi eric. authorities in russia a country that has been bombing ukraine arrested an american for allegedly having the hashish oil leading to questions over russia's true intent over this detainment. brittney griner is a first high profile american detained by russian authorities as tensions mounted on ukraine. it's unclear how brittney griner has been in custody "new york times" moscow in february the customs released a video to show
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going through security a person removing a package out of her bag. a statement russian officials reportedly say that an american basketball player was detained after those vape cartridge were found in her luggage. if russian authority to determine that brittney griner is guilty of transporting drugs she could face up to ten years in prison and russia. >> it is a concern. as you know right now there is a plane flying from russia to the united states where they want to take up their diplomats and take them home. they better be very careful how they treat any of our citizens over there because we have their citizens here. and so it is a concern for going to watch very closely and hold them accountable. >> today the u.s. state department update its travis advised that u.s. citizens should leave russia immediately. phoenix mercury star britney greiner is one of the number of wnba players who was in russia during the wnba off-season pair here's fox news contributor jim gray precursors in american a
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profile american who was a great basketball player 12 gold medals certainly represents the united states of america produce might have to wait and see just exactly what all of this is and how it all plays out. but certainly brittney griner no matter what the circumstances is, is now in peril. >> the debbie mva released a statement in support of griner showing her love and concern for the athlete officials say they are monitoring the situation very closely, eric. eric: alright christina thanks so much for coming up in a moment more reaction on russia detaining her with congressman who will also address why are we not cutting off russia imports to hurt pollutant right now? congressman coming up, arthel. arthel: eric, president biden is waiting a ban on natural gas imported does comes amid growing
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pressure to take action against a major sector of russia's economy. a major concern hanging over any decision is rising gas prices here in the u.s. alexander hoff is live in wilmington, delaware where the president is spending the weekend with more, alexandria. >> well arthel, president biden this afternoon attended an event with a national labor leaders from around the country. while he was there that call between u.s. senators and president zelensky was just wrapping up lawmakers say it was emotional. >> i've been on a lot of zoom calls this is one i will never forget zelensky spoke from the heart you see the image already for the military green t-shirt on ukraine flag, there is no script he spoke from the heart. he's in the united states is the most powerful and biggest hope. >> senator lindsey graham wade and as well after the call saying the u.s. should do more to get ukraine equipment they
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need. mainly military aircraft zelensky one skull call for the astute cut off oil purchases from rush of the white house said that hurt the u.s. more than russia since russian oil and gas makes up for just 10% of what we are importing. they said that would not hit russia very hard but could impact consumer prices. the present is considering prices how to make up for that gas if needed. and it is needed according to bipartisan legislation now being pushed to in those imports. it's led by democratic senator joe manchin who feels it's time now to bolster as well domestic energy production. told neil cavuto at this after today's call pickwick's i think the u.s. should shut down imports of russia energy. we should do that we could do that unilaterally we ought to do it right away. there is also discussion sanctions against russian energy projects projects. >> the white house is requesting $10 billion from congress to assist european allies that are
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now fostering refugees 53 million of that would go towards a new task force that will target russian oligarchs. today at senator mitt romney said democratic leaders really do need to expedite this assistance bill saying awaiting for the congressional calendar while people are dying is unacceptable, arthel. arthel: wilmington, delaware resident biden is working this week and from delaware. alexander hoff thank you so much alex. >> russian oil smells with ukrainian blood today. buying it is financing russia were crimes. you can't buy a little bit of it and being a little bit complacent with those were crimes. >> to hear that blunt truth as ukrainian form minister. drawing a direct connection between russian oil and russia's catastrophic assault on his country. this comes as pressures ramping up on the u.s. to cut ties with the russian energy sector. congress of funding or has unity
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on this issue the house and senate introducing a bipartisan bill. they're choking off a critical source of revenue for russian president vladimir putin's regime that help support his terror. what should we do? republican congressman darrell issa paid member to house in foreign affairs committee. congressman great to see you. why have we not cut off russian oil yet? why have we not cut off putin's legs under him to try to weaken him? >> we can find neither republicans nor democrats any valid reason we cannot stop aiding and abetting it's that simple but if you want to use their oil and not pay for it, sees ships that is fine. the reality is we must stop immediately. and if we think back to every time american gauge on behalf of freedom we have been willing to
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make sacrifices. writing a tenant billion dollar check as we are about to do just help the war effort is not a sacrifice for the sacrifice is of course we should stop using their oil in of course we need to match force with force. one of the problems is when president biden stopped the polls and others from sending them aircraft that allow them to go one on one against the russians what they have done is create a situation where our money is a waste if it's not actually going to stop putin. i hate to go on but a lot of times people talk about escalation. escalation is going above your enemy. matching your enemies force for force in this case with brave ukrainians during the fighting is not escalation, it is actually stopping the escalation by holding him accountable. eric: reimport about $22 million a day. 22 million a day at russian oil you talk about sacrifices were just showing video of the
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devastation and destruction of ukrainian village at a ukrainian town proving of the sacrifices the ukrainians are undergoing. do you think americans are prepared to sacrifice? are we prepared to pay 5 cents -- 10 cents, how much 20 cents more a gallon to cut off russian oil and not give putin support? >> that has been a false statement for the fact is oil went up to 110 plus dollars a barrel almost 120 on friday. because of the war, not because of not buying russian oil. the fact is, the senator manchin said we can produce oil to help bring the prices down. the rest of the world can. we can't do is fight an enemy halfway and then fund his ability to fight back. no question at all, we have got to stop this terrible murder, this war criminal. the answer to your question is, american people have always been willing to sacrifice for freedom. we have in the past with that a
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helpless nation and gone to their aid. one of the challenges we are having now is at the president has falsely drawn a line about whether you are a nato member or not. the past is over 100 years ago our country so there's no half human beings are no people less deserving there are no people innocent that somehow aren't innocent because of something about where they live or where they came from. the fact is ukrainian people did nothing, were attacked i we need to come to the rescue in a meaningful way. unlike afghanistan where there was a resistance for the afghans to fight bravely for their own country, this country is fighting bravely we simply need to give them the tools and we need to give it to them in real time. and if that includes helping them create that lid, that no fly zone, we have to do it. eric: you know the president's view and some others say they fear imposing a nato no fly zone
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could lead to world war iii basically in a broader conflict putin will take is that, what is your view of that? are there other things they can do like providing biggs? >> putin believes is said there could be reprisals for anyone who helps the ukrainians. putin does not define the difference between a little bit of help and a little bit more help. the fact is we must stop putin. do we need to stay at a level the rest of the world stays with us? yes. we need to bring nato and the rest of the world with us. but right now the polls, the romanians, the germans, many of our allies in nato and europe are in fact leading what we are not. so the fact is, i totally support the president wanting to be diplomatically not alone. at the same time he is not alone if he leads and leads further than he has been.
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margaret thatcher was alive today she would say don't go wobbly on me, joe. and that is what is happening. we are seeing a reluctance to do enough to stop putin. there is no point in putting one's bullet into the hands of ukrainians unless we put enough of bullets for them to stop putin. otherwise we are actually hurting them. we need to make sure they stopped completely and we have the capability of giving them the capability to do it. that is all that president zelensky is asking for. give me the bullets. i don't need to be evacuated. give me the ability to fight for my country. eric: that was an astounding call from him. he is rallying the world. congressman darrell issa good to see you and thank you for your wisdom today. >> thank you. arthel: it sound like an echo from the cold war. the u.s. and russia keeping the lines of communication open by establishing a hotline for the
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goal, to avoid any direct conflict as moscow continues its military assaults against ukraine. mark meredith is live at the pentagon with more, mark. >> arthel, good afternoon for this phone line is up and running its way for the u.s. military to connect quickly with the russian military all the effort to de-escalate tensions if they were to reach new levels and they arty have been for the phone line was installed in the last several days over in germany at u.s. european command headquarters. >> we think it is valuable to have a direct communication vehicle at that level at an operational level to reduce the risks of miscalculations. and to be able to communicate in real time if need be. particularly because now the airspace over ukraine is contested by both russian and ukrainian aircraft. >> contested airspace is right. florida senator marco rubio tweeting russian air forces have in their worst day yet in
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ukraine multiple shootouts dead and captured pilots but a lot of focus on the airspace with the u.s. once again rolling out participation in a no-fly zone over ukraine. but officials insist they are still hopping a crane in many different ways especially financially tense 2014 the u.s. providing $3 billion in aid. a billion dollars worth going out within the last year. assuming talk about congressman considering an additional $10 billion in ukrainian assistance today alaskan republican dan sullivan called out the defense secretary us was a secretary of state organ doing them to make sure the money gets there fast zero president zelenskyy urgently requested more military combat force forces and to defend his people. the defense secretary's will secretary blinken make this happen for his forces and for the defense of democracy. the pentagon insist they're still able to get their weapons supply out into ukraine, even though this war's broken out now for more than a week. but officials are not going into a lot of detail how this weapon shippen's are making their way into the country because of course arthel they want to protect the supplies.
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if i majeed mark meredith live at the pentagon. meanwhile the us ambassador to united nations sounding the alarm at an emergency meeting of the security council warning of quote imminent danger as russian troops advanced on the second largest nuclear plant in ukraine. it comes just one day after moscow captured the largest facility in all of europe. let's bring in now jim walsh. jim is an international security expert at mit. brushes arty sees two nuclear power plants and closing in on the third period want to pop up a map for everyone we want to look at their locations you have got chernobyl in the north, you have got zaporizhzhia in the southeast and now they are closing in on, there it is, yuzhnnovkrainsk. that is more southwest. so is this intentional by putin or is it about power? i mean power is in electricity.
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>> yes literally electrical power. ukraine and definitely depends on nuclear generated electricity for a large share of its total power. and just like the russians aid to take over strategically important roads and villages and that sort of thing, they are going after the power plants because then they will control the energy flow within the country. and then it will be very difficult to get energy unless they agree to allow that to happen. but their first attempts, was nearly a disaster when they had shown link that caused a fire near that nuclear power plants. clearly despite months of preparation on their part, they were not ready for this. a major act of incompetence, sheer incompetence because it was not in russian interest to have a radioactive fire at the fuel pond for example lost
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energy caught on fire. that would put up the radioactive fire that would have contaminated russian troops, floated into russia, parts of europe. clearly they did not know what they were doing then. and i hope someone has read the commanders the riot act and said what are you doing? do not put the plant in danger that is an idiotic move. and not a very welcome sign of confidence within the russian military. arthel: that said though, what about taking over yet another plant and then also tell us what is the imminent danger and the residual security risk involved? >> will start the second question first, arthel. the dangers. my colleague has written an excellent book what happens when countries use a nuclear power plants as weapons. that is the book. here's what, several things can
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happen again they can botch it up in an attempt to take over a plant, not cap the power supply you will remember it was not the plant's containment vessel initially ruptured, it was that it lost power. and that cause problems. within the plant itself. and then separately but no one ever talks about are spent fuel ponds. what i mean by that? when the plant operates it generates a really toxic brew of hot radioactive waste is going to be disposed of. but it is too hot to handle said distort on-site in these ponds until it cools down and then they can dispose of it. will that facility does not have a protective container around it. it is not subject to all the sorts of things the reactor has protecting it. and it depends on energy too. so if they screw that up and knock that out you can get this a terrible result that i have described. in addition, offices are taking
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over the power they might try to starve the ukrainian population of energy in order to force them to submit. i would say finally the danger here is if they start to lose this war or if they are and to stay they are just in it to destroy, to leave ukraine ms, they could certainly do damage to this energy facilities. then again it raises the issue, do they know what they are doing? so far they have not instilled a lot of confidence. if they began trying to disable nuclear power plants on their way out or an order rendered them useless i don't trust them to do in a way that is safe. >> the reason as you well know for not implementing a no-fly zone there is a connection here over ukraine is to avoid direct air combat with russia. however, if putin ultimately conquers ukraine getting away with invading a sovereign nation not to mention war crimes, why
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would he stop there? as you have said he would basically destroy anything in his wake. disputant really care about inciting or provoking world war iii? rex i'm not privy to the intra- thoughts of a putin. and clearly they have sort of shown themselves to be sort of all over the place the last couple of weeks. raising questions about his judgment. but at the end of the day leaders tend not to be suicidal. the difference of attacking eight nato country where we have a solemn legal pledge to come to their defense that is to say initiate an attack against stay tuned nuclear armed alliance, i think that would be doing a lot. i don't think that is going to happen. >> if that's the case, jim, you said you don't know because he's unpredictable and he seems -- alright if if that's the case you and other experts say they don't think putin would respond
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with start a world war iii. that said, why not go for the no-fly zone over ukraine? >> then we become essential ukraine's air force. so what happens when u.s. pilot get shot down? and then is taken prisoner or is killed pretend they were a party to the conflict it's not ukraine and russia support it's americans fighting the russians in ukraine. two nuclear weapon states. and while i think putin can be deterred, i think it's pretty obviously susceptible to miscalculation. you can get a nuclear war between parties even if they are not intentionally seeking a nuclear war. if one party mis- calculates the other party thanks they have to take actions to respond to the miscalculation and so on and so on. the consequences of a nuclear exchange are so large that is why people are so careful.
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>> putin has already said that would be considered a threat of war. we are certainly not advocating war as you well know, just asking the questions as our viewers are wanting to know why. >> it's this is why -- putin started it. arthel: international expert jim walsh thank you very much the resilience of the ukrainian people on full display as support pours in from around the world. our support continues right after this.
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before purchasing putin's railing around the group showing solidarity with ukraine. and against the russian invasion. alexis mcadams is live and exit in times square the heart of manhattan were protest is not taking place, hi alexis. >> hi eric. massive protests here in times square which doesn't surprise me there is a massive ukrainian population ukrainian american population rather in new york. you can see behind me their crowds and chanting their message they want to make it very clear, calling for a no-fly zone demanding united states stop buying oil from russia. you can take a lively care. new york is a mention home of the largest ukrainian american population in the nation. massive approaches have been held for the past several days, really picking up on the weekend. hundreds of people have fled to times square again to that yellow and blue flags pro ukraine signs but organizers of the rally said they want the u.s. to do more, take a look here across the nation similar
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protests have been popping up. large group or railing to show support for ukraine in the full-scale invasion is really ignited the largest attack on european soil since world war ii. even leaders condemning vindman putin's actions those attacks continue on for ukraine president -- i can tell you he's pushing today talk to members of congress to do more asking for a no-fly zone nato is not done that yet. that is the issue today we seen so many people across the nation and here in new york city calling for more support. these people specifically to your calling for the united states to do more to cut up buying oil from russia and do more to make changes starting right now, eric. arthel: says russia continued to devastating assault on ukraine, china at russia's biggest partners for the most part staying on the sideline refusing to outright condemn putin's
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invasion toward both russia becoming more financially isolate it by the day, important question, while this only strengthen their partnership or could it prove to be a major turning point? gordon chang author of the coming collapse of china with his analysis coming up next. welcome to the eat fresh refresh at subway wait, that's new wait, you're new too nobody told you? subway's refreshing with better ingredients, better footlongs, and better spokespeople. because you gotta you gotta refresh to be fresh
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and it wasn't just a job, it was keeping my brothers and sisters safe. and coming back, it felt like, kind of thrown away. it's like, you're useless, you know? "we don't really have a need you now because you can't really do anything for us." that's the way i felt. if it hadn't have been for wounded warrior project, i honestly don't know if i would be here. it was the comradery that i saw it was like, i got my family back again because we all had some sort of injury or illness that we didn't have to talk about but we all felt the connection, like, that brother and sisterhood.
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eric: china said it is not considering sanctions against russia. it will continue it would occult normal trading cooperation with moscow for now. the united nations general assembly passed a nonbinding resolution this week. demanding an end to russia's military offensive in ukraine. one her 41 countries voted in favor, five were again sprayed china it was among 35 countries that abstained. that was seen as a win for the west. but will beijing really stop backing putin? tim and your fellow author of the coming collapse of china and the great check war joins us now. with president xi continue to protect putin? >> he certainly will. it is not just normal trading relations that china has with the russia right now. these are enhanced by these $117.5 billion for gas deals.
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after that was 100 million metric tons of russian coal in china has removed restrictions on the importation. putting a lot of money and basically it means that china is financing the killing in ukraine. >> is that amount enough then to sadly offset sanctions the west puts on moscow? books i do not know if it is enough. but certainly it is substantial. it is something that putin obviously wanted. remember putin and jinping spoke for more than two and half hours on vibrate forth just for the opening of the olympics we could see other chinese support. so for instance, the u.s. and other countries cut russia off of the dollar system, swift and u.s. dollar accounts in new york, china is probably at this point trying to get russia onto
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its system which is a swift alternative cross-border interbank payment system. we have seen other attacks on the dollar by china over the last week or so. which is a real indication they want russia on the system. eric: so yet again china is undermining us? >> absolutely. beijing is supporting down the line of russia. they failed to cause an invasion, and invasion that's a real sign of partnership. now it is true there is a mid level chinese officials are really disturbed at beijing's support of putin but where it counts as at the top of the chinese political system. seizing pain is all in on this. eric: you think that will break question what do you see anything that will give it president xi pause or a second thought about that support a putin? >> if putin continues to fail in ukraine, if the invasion stalls
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outlet say for another couple of weeks, i think china will get a little bit nervous. but the thing to watch, eric, as channels proxy like north korea, iran, pakistan. if they start acting up and visit. it will be i think beijing's to draw our attention away from ukraine and help vladimir putin. courses at the united nations reporting there's a lot of public hullabaloo about the check china abstained did not block the condemnation in the general assembly of russia. as you said in the intro was seen as a win for the west. do you see it that way or are they trying to have their cake and eat it too? >> absently not. china knew this resolution is going to pass. china knows the resolution is nonbinding. this was a really easy way for beijing to portray itself as some sort of neutral party, a responsible party of the community. of course it's not.
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if it really wants to be responsible, it should not by oil, gas, wheat all this other stuff from russia. but china is doubling down, eric. that vote was insubstantial and should not be accorded any kind of significance. >> the bottom line, gordon, putin is confident you think because he knows he has the partnership of president xi and china and this is another way the chinese/russian united front against the united states and the west. >> the bottom line is china is supporting russia. seizing pain is use the world in the same terms as vladimir putin they identify the same adversary. china is all in on this. that is unfortunately it got to recognize the world as it is. as we saw in the "new york times" reporting when we were talking to chinese officials should try to get them to constraint russia, two things happened. they rebuffed us and then they
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took the intelligence that we shared with beijing and they pass it on to vladimir putin. what else do we need to see in terms of trying to figure out what is going on between moscow and beijing? >> it's putin's request or putin did to not launch the invasion during the olympics to make a child looked up and china look bad but finally, how do we confront china? what can we do in order to try to rein them in or is that not possible now? >> that is easy to rein them in. it's really dependent on our markets. they are dependent on our access to dollars. we should be sanctioning china right now like we are sanctioning russia. because china is backfilling as a state department set on february 3 they issued the warning to chinese companies not to support russia after we imposed sanctions on russia. because it is clear what china is doing.
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>> gordon chang who is always warned about the danger and the threat of china. gordon is author at the institute. i would like to say good to see you but not under the circumstances, thank you gordon as always for your insight. >> thank you. arthel: it's good to have me so knowledgeable. we are back in hour please join us then. ♪ sparks welcome to the special edition of the journal editorial report as russia continues its brutal assault on ukraine, it is 10:00 p.m. in kyiv's missiles and artillery continued to bombard major cities and civilian targets across the country in the tenth day of the invasion we begin our coverage in ukraine's capitol city benjamin hall is standing by, ben. >> hi paul. despite putin's insistence is not attacking civilians there's clear evidence he is. videos, eyewi

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