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vladimir putin has so far not been willing to meet with you. do you have a message for him? >> it's not about i want to talk with putin. i think i have to talk with putin. the world has to talk with putin because there are no other ways to stop this war. howard: as all this plays out on tv screens and social media around the world, the journalist debate in this country has dramatically shifted. most of the voices that scoffed and said is ukraine isn't important to american interests have changed their tune and are agreeing now that russia is a pariah state. in fact, some journalists are pushing the biden white house to do more as a matter of conscience. >> administration has made it clear there will be no boots on the ground. what will it take, will anything change that? will we stand by and watch innocent people continue to be killed here? >> well, gayle, you're absolutely right, it's heart wrenching, it's heartbreaking.

the president is clear, we are clear, we are not going to put u.s. troops in ukraine to fight the russians. howard: and there's a good reason for that, there's no appetite in either party or most of the press for a ground war between two nuclear powers right on russia's border. those who are demanding a no-fly zone are missing the fact that shooting down planes and capturing pilots would mean war with russia. the invasion has taken an ominous turn with the seizing of ukraine's largest power plant and strangling people with who no longer have power or electricity. the incredibly brave resistant dance of ukrainian, but it's where the reporting, unfortunately, is taking us. i'm howard kurtz, and this is "mediabuzz." ♪ ♪ howard: first, let's go live to ukraine where fox news correspondent trey yingst joins us from kyiv. trey, what's the latest? >> reporter: howard, while a fierce ukrainian resistance

continues today, ukrainian forces and civilians are getting hit from the ground and air by russian troops. some devastating images coming out of irpin just outside of kyiv. we were there yesterday watching thousands of civilians try to get out of the way of russian fire. today we can report three people were killed, civilians on their way out of that town as russian forces fired mortar shells at different positions. this is what we are seeing not only in the capital of kyiv, but across this country. the russians continuing their campaign against civilian infrastructure, trying to push out civilians and move in their forces. ukrainian president solid myrrh zelenskyy today doubling down on his request for the international community to immediately implement a no-fly zone over ukraine to give his forces a better chance at pushing back this invasion. we see in the streets of kyiv today checkpoints set up throughout the city. there are concerns the russians could send in more reconnaissance troops to try to gather information about what

kind of resis towns they're going to face, but the ukrainian people are pledging to fight. we have seen it in the streets here, civilians picking up arms, molotov cocktails, anything they can find. just a few days ago we met with the president, and he said he will stay and fight on behalf of his people. howard? howard: trey yingst, thanks very much. the pundits are certainly clashing over how much responsibility president biden bears for the invasion of ukraine, but almost everyone is onboard with the notion that america and its allies must use all our pressure against vladimir putin. >> as long as the u.s. and joe biden and our european allies, as long as they continue to import oil and gas from russia, you, the american people, ostensibly are funding this war and making russia and putin richer hand he's ever been. >> it does feel morally intolerable, as the ambassador was putting it, for the western world to stand united and

patting ourselves on the back about that and saying how much we support the ukrainians while we watch them get slaughtered. >> so we've got it completely wrong. and, honestly, we've continued to get it wrong ever since. saving the civilized world? come on. that's absolutely not kamala harris' job. that was our assumption. but as a noted, we were wrong. >> biden has fully exposed vladimir putin for what he is, a brutal and maybe even mental dictator who is incompatible with the free world. and let's face it, a republican president with the same facts on offer would surely have received immense credit including in the press. howard: joining us now from new york, will cain, cohost of "fox & friends" weekend, and here in washington gillian turner the fox news anchor and correspondent who worked on national security interests for the bush and obama white house. will, do you see a shift where most of media and most of the country are now fairly united on trying to further cripple russia's economy in response to this brutal, anti-humanitarian

invasion? >> certainly most of the media, howard, i think the great question much of the -- where is most of the american public. my assumptioning is most of the american public is behind economic pressure on vladimir putin, but i think america is filtering the story through the prism of american interests. and i think that our government and by extension then our media needs to thread a very tight need on balancing america's interests. what i mean is you want to respond with strength to vladimir putin. i think western world has. i think his nose has been bloodied. we want to send a deterrent message against further invasions into other countries. i think economic sanctions have played a role in that, howard. but also you don't want to back vladimir putin into an inevitably desperate situation where economic war leads to real war, the japanese, by the way, decided to attack pearl harbor months after economic sanctions

forbid them from buying oil from the united states of america. and what i would say is we're playing economic and war brinksmanship with a nuclear power. and that, you know, to be face to face with a nuclear power at point in history is going to require calm, cool, collected threading of the needle for the american interests. howard: yeah. brinksmanship is a good term. unfortunately, the bloody nose is not good enough, we need to bloody putin further. gillian, one things that seems to have faded is the media argument about, oh, ukraine just isn't that important, not of strategic interest to the united states. is that because this has now mushroomed into a a global confrontation between the u.s. and europe and even japan and even switzerland and putin's lies and his ruthlessness? >> yes, but i think the other thing that's kind of shifted the narrative is the white house is now trying to convey that message to the american people. a few weeks ago jen psaki at the

podium, the president, the vice president when they were talking to the american people were not doing a very good job of impressing upon them why ukraine mattered, why acting in ukraine's economic, political and defense and national security interests was something americans here at home should be concerned about. now we're watching this war play out on television, they're seeing prices go up at the pump, no end in sight. so it's hitting home in a whole new way. i want to pick up on something will said a second ago. he's right, i don't know a lot of americans who want to live in a world where vladimir putin is threatening to launch nuclear weapons aimed at the west. that is certainly motivating the press these days. you don't have to do a public opinion poll to figure that one out. one thing, howie, the media is not doing a good job of is questioning nato. the president is getting a free pass when he talks about how vladimir putin has renewed the alliance and we're stronger than ever. i have yet to hear somebody ask the white house why nato should

exist in the 21st century if it cannot prevent russia from invading europe. howard: well, it's a resonant question, will, but obviously ukraine is not part of nato. but some commentators on the right say president biden should have done more to prevent an invasion or the sanctions should have been of tougher. regardless, he had to build a western alliance, otherwise u.s. sanctions by themselves would have been useless. >> yeah, i think those are -- those on the right that are looking in their rearview mirror with hindsight are saying how did we put ourselves in a position where we have so little leverage against vladimir putin where wen continue to buy russian oil and gas, that if we had pursued energy independence, we wouldn't be so hesitant to cut off russian oil and gas because i know it will impact prices at the pump. i have some media criticisms as well here, howard, and that is what your show does so well with. our job, tying into what i said at the beginning, i believe, is to help provide cool, calm truth

for one of the most consequential decisions of our lifetimes, and that is how much pressure do you bring to bear on a nuclear power. and we cannot, we should not make that decision based upon sad images -- and they are truly sad and play upon our empathy -- sad images on our television, gayle king on cbs saying what is the line when we have watched too much. we cannot play it based upon what we see across our social media feed which turns out to be untrue some great percentage of the time. we need to be led by rationality, by calm facts. because mistakes at this point are too great. the cost of getting this wrong when you're dealing with the great nuclear power outside of china and the united states on the face of this planet requires us to get it right. howard: right. well, or gillian, you know, it's not just gayle king. at lot of journalists are ea -- reacting emotionally and saying how can we sit by and not stop that. and that has led to prominent

media voices to talk about let's enforce a no-fly zone, perhaps missing the fact that that amounts to finish and the kremlin has said this -- a declaration of war because suddenly you're shooting down planes, capturing pilots, and that can be stretch -- treacherous, gillian. >> the media, by which i mean the pundit class because responsible appropriators are not doing this, the pundit class can question the president about, really, are you sure you don't want to send american troops into ukraine? it's not happening. nato's not going to allow it to happen, the president, of course, categorically promised this directly to the american people a handful of times in just the last few weeks. it's not happening. so we can debate the merits all we want, but it's a pointless, useless undertaking because it's not an option that is on the table. i will say the media is doing a disservice to the american people by pretending there is this binary choice between sanctions on the one hand and a full scale ground invasion on the other.

there's a lot of shades of gray in between including something zelenskyy advocated for yesterday -- or not advocated for, he accused the congress of not sending weapons, enough weapons early enough and standing by for 8-9 months while putin amassed 150,000 troops along his border. that's not something that happened overnight. howard: there's one more dimension here, will, is you had lindsey graham going on fox and saying somebody in russia ought to take this guy out. laura ingraham said that was a stupid and dangerous idea, he kind of backed off and said he should at least be in jail. sean hannity said if you kill innocent men, women and children, you don't deserve to live. i wouldn't mourn for two seconds if vladimir putin met an untimely demise, but should this be openly mitigated in the medi? if. >> stupid, stupid comment from

lindsey graham. here's the grayest shade of gray and the biggest element, it's the gray a matter between vladimir putin's ears. it's whatever's going on in his mind, and that's what we have to answer. gillian is certain -- and i appreciate her certain i -- about what would provoke american response what we do no -- not know is what will provoke a vladimir putin response. i agree there are things we can do short of launching the nukes to deter vladimir putin, but what we really need to be considering and it's not being a putin tool and it's not being a propagandist to try to say let's attempt to understand his mind because if you don't understand the mind of your enemy, you cannot defeat your enemy. howard: yeah. and that is challenging these days with putin being so isolated. gillian, do you think the saturation coverage of this war by very bravists including those at this -- brave journalists including at this network has hammered hope that putin is a

fab fabricator and doesn't even really make much pretense anymore about what his troops are doing? >> well, he makes the pretense, this is why he's banning media from operating inside russia or ukraine, he doesn't want footage of civilian buildings and people getting bombed out which is now happening pretty much every other day if you watch the pattern, the trajectory of this war on the ground. the media has rallied around this, you know, putin is an evil autocrat or a dictator, and volodymyr zelenskyy is a hero for the free world. both of those things are categorically true. i don't think it's possible anymore to suss out what is going on inside putin's mind, to will's point. a lot of people spend a lot of time trying to do this. those who know him best, by which i mean those here in the west who have worked with him for decades, are saying he is no longer a rational actor, he can no longer be counted on to act in his or his country's best interests. howard: yeah, he does.

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howard: president biden began his state of the union on an emotional high note talking about ukraine, drawing considerable media praise not to mention applause from both sides of the aisle, but the reviews turned decidedly mixeded when he spent the rest of the speech on a laundry list of liberal proposals and plans. >> russia's vladimir putin sought to shake the very foundations of the free world, thinking he could make it bend to his menacing ways, but he badly miscalculated. [applause] president zelenskyy -- to every ukrainian, their fearlessness,

their courage, their determination literally inspires the world. >> i thought that was joe biden at his best. uncle joe was back. i thought he was being the leader. >> in a desperate attempt to reset the narrative of what is obviously a failing administration, joe biden tonight delivered an address that sounded more like the state of the european union at times. >> it was a return to normalcy for a state of the union address. you had a very unifying speech, a defense of western democracy -- >> really what he did was insufficient, it was uncreative, it was unmemorable, it was uninspiring. he talked about agenda that joe manchin has basically decapitated. howard: let's start with the ukraine part of the speech. as i mentioned, biden getting bipartisan praise talking about defending democracy, and the media loved it because it's about dramatic world confrontation. >> and that's right. you see historically when you have some threat externally, when you have war, poll numbers for the sitting president go up.

in the beginning, howard, at the beginning, until the costs are paid for that war. howard: right. >> in lives and in treasure. but the speech went on from there, and the speech went on from will and painted an alternative reality. i think dana perino was right, boringly, uninspiringly painteded an alternative reality that americans are not experiencing. a i did a diner for "fox & friends" the next morning, and it's an odd picture that joe biden chose to paint where inflation is still transitory and something we're going to get over, but he acknowledged it existed. the economy was set to get better as soon as build back better was once passed. this was not what they were discussing at the diner table that morning. howard: i want to get gillian in, the stage craft such as having the ukrainian ambassador sitting in the first lady's box. >> and yeah, and to the president's credit, that was very effective. the strongest part of the speech

was when he said the united states stands with the people of ukraine. he also did a very good job explaining -- not explaining, or selling that covid is sort of coming to, we're coming to the other side of that, and life is going to go back to normal. unfortunately for the president though, howie, these are not the issues that are animating democrats or republicans going into the midterms. there's still a cry ace9 the u.s -- crisis at the u.s. southern border, still record high inflation, there's still a crime crisis in america's major cities. these are the issues that are turning people out come november. didn't really do -- i hate to say he didn't do a good job because some of those issues he didn't even touch on. howard: he did touch on a lot of issues, and i think the media were expecting a reset for the midterms, but he crammed in so many proposals and ideal -- ideas that it was dizzying. on and on. did it sound to a lot of people like just more big government spending? >> well, let's do this, what was

the most popular part of that speech in terms of what garnered the most applause? it's when he literally plagiarized or cribbed -- and good for him in doing so -- the platform proposals of president donald trump when he talked about making things in america, bringing manufacturing back to america. that that seems to now be, thankfully, a bipartisan -- at least in rhetoric -- a bipartisan platform position. that seems to be very popular with the american people. he acknowledged -- i'm telling you this, he painted an alternative reality. oh issues -- other issues like immigration, he acknowledged it but acted like he was going to get a handle on it. we're a year into his administration, and it's at record, crisis levels. you can't paint an alternative reality and convince the american people of something that doesn't exist because they are living it. they are here. they are at their kitchen tables, they are in the economy, and they are experiencing joe biden's first year in office. howard: yeah. on the other hand, gillian, the

economy is doing pretty well with the latest jobs numbers, and biden did make make a rhetorical nod to the searched. -- center. he talked about securing the border, battling inflation, cutting the deficit. but the press the next day framed it as a pivot toward the center to help moderate democrats, but biden didn't frame it that way. if you listened to the speech, and it went on for an hour, it was all the different parts of build back better and other stuff, some of which may be noble programs, but most of which, i think, is not going to has -- pass. >> and the rebuttal from inside his own party delivered by rashida tribe -- tlaib did more to tamp down the ambitions for this speech than anything else. a lot of people were waiting to get through the speech to see what the progressives were going to say. i would venture out on a limb here and say i'm not the only reporter who thinks this, but the state of the union format iser the terribly outdated now. it doesn't really give presidents a good opportunity to

connect with people beyond whoever's sitting will there on the house floor. it's all become theater with the applause and the standing and the sitting. i mean, it's really time, i think, for a better format for the president. he needs a way to connect directly with the american people. this is no longer the venn -- venue for that, and that is apparent not just with this president, but the last few years. howard: yeah. it's become more like check the box of all the interest groups that want their proposal mentioned -- >> it's theater, you know? howard: marijuana there should just be a -- maybe there should just be a video on tiktok. ahead, hogan gidley on dealing with vladimir putin, but up next, a closer look at russia cracking down on any reporting that goes beyond official propaganda. ♪ ♪ . and when i'm driving, i see inspiration right through my glass. so when my windshield cracked, it had to be fixed right. i scheduled with safelite autoglass.

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howard: vladimir putin has shut down the two largest inagain broadcasters this were still

operating, and the chief editor has fled the country with his family fearing for his safety. we're back with gillian turner. is it surpriseing to you that putin would extinguish the last flick pers of a free press, and what were they reporting that the kremlin found so offensive? >> well, there was hardly an independent media thriving in russia, which you're right to point out. that's an important point here, the fact that there were two independent outlets for putin to shut down, he started with those. he accused them, to your question, of being critical of the invasion by which they weren't using pre-approved kremlin talking points to talk about how russia was going after nazis inside ukraine -- howard: right. >> he then kicked, he then shut down all foreign outlets including those run by the united states. he's now shut down most of the national outlets that were operating inside the country. this is what autocrats do when

they're trying to tighten channels of communication to their own people. howard: makes you appreciate the free press, for all the flaws that we have here in the united states. >> for all the fighting and ugliness, we've got it. howard: yeah. rt has shut down. putin blocking facebook and also the russian parliament, which is a rubber stamp, passing this pretty draconian law that says anybody can get a prison term of up to 15 years for publishing unofficial -- meaning anything beyond the propaganda information -- cnn has stopped broadcasting, bbc is us pending operations. this is not just affecting russians, this is affecting what the western world gets to find out. >> it is. there's a complete social media blackout inside the country. to the credit of ukrainians and russian speakers inside russia and inside ukraine, a lot of people are finding work-arounds so that they can still communicate during the blackout. so they might not be able to go to twitter or facebook or instagram to talk to other people, but they're doing things like providing comments on google maps about their lower

case, refugees. people are -- former ambassador to russia this morning, excuse me, yesterday morning on twitter was encouraging russian-speaking people to start speaking out on restaurant reviews. these are all things that we've seen before during wartime but with a profusion of apps and things now, there's a lot more opportunities for people, which is wonderful. howard: yeah. the russian people to various degrees have always had to find a work-around. this is just a brutal attack on anything other than the propaganda, putin saying it's a peace-keeping operation. gillian turner, thanks so much for your contributions today. >> you got it. howard: next on "mediabuzz," a live report from ukraine and jennifer griffin at the pentagon and how this story's moving in a dangerous new next. and later, how social media is having a huge impact on the global community. ♪

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is fox news correspondent mike tobin. mike. >> reporter: and, howie, we'll start you off with the strikes at the airport about 180 miles west of kyiv can. the ukrainian foreign minister says it was eight russian cruise missiles that hit the airport. he posted video that appears to show a cruise missile enroute to its target. president zelenskyy key says the airport is destroyed. he insists that nato needs to enforce a no-fly zone over ukraine. a second attempt at a humanitarian ceasefire has failed. humanitarian corridors were intended to let civilians in mariupol escape the fighting. they have both been subject to shelling for days, and people there don't have power, food or water. twice civilians prepared to leave, twice russian shelling cause them to head back into the filter shell -- shelters.

talks produced ceasefire attempts, parties are scheduled to talk again tomorrow. howie? howard: that safe evacuation promised by the russians turned out to be just another lie. mike tobin, thanks very much for your reporting, stay safe. joining us now from the pentagon is jennifer griffin who covers national security issues for fox news. jennifer, the world the whole first week was cheering, inspired at the brave resistance of the ukrainians slowing the russian military. paradoxically, and this is not as heart-warming a storyline, hasn't that forced russia to use even more brutal tactics, to lie, to go after civilians and, for example, blacking evacuation from this port city of mariupol where they're running out of food, water and electricity and yet the shelling is preventing people from leaving? >> reporter: absolutely. in fact, what we've seen is the very effective javelin missiles that have taken out tank columns and the stinger missiles that

have brought down russian war planes, russia 11 days into this has not been able to establish air superiority over a country like ukraine that has a much smaller air force, much smaller air defenses. those air defenses are still operational, and those -- the weapons that have been flowing in every day before and after the invasion, there's been a steady flow of those javelins and stingers. they've really made a difference. but what it has done, as you said, is pushed putin and what people are very concerned about, people here at the pentagon and elsewhere, nato, is that if he is pushed into the corner, if his conventional military keeps being stymied and stopped, he could rely on even worse weapons. he has,s remember, 2,000 tactical nukes in his arsenal, and part of russian doctrine is that he could use those on the battlefield, howie. howard: it's a chilling prospect. given that some u.s. media voices -- and i understand people are frustrated, they want the west to do something watching these atrocious

pictures, why tonight we just set up in a no-fly zone? and also zelenskyy in one of his talks with the west was pretty angry. he said all the people who will die from this day will die because of you, nato, because of your weakness, because of your disunity. >> reporter: well, it's not just the media, it's congress. you now have a bipartisan support after that conversation, that direct satellite link with zelenskyy, president zelenskyy yesterday where we hear members of the right and left on capitol hill, those members of congress who are over in poland trying to discuss getting weapons to, more weapons in cluding fighter jets. because of the emotional images on television and the fact that we're witnessing, in essence, the annihilation of a people, you are hearing lawmakers putting pressure now on the u.s. government and nato the talk about things like a no-fly zone and sending these mig fighter

jets over into ukraine which could really risk broadening the conflict. so what i noticed yesterday was a dramatic shift in the thinking, and we now understand that the state department and nsc are talking about how they can help poland get those migs to ukraine. but, again, the few migs isn't going to make a difference against the entire russian militaries, and there are real dangers involved in setting up a no-fly zone. we've seen in 1991 in the first gulf war that that really put, that would put u.s. war planes into a direct conflict and war with russia, and russia's a nuclear power which is different from any other situation that the u.s. military has had to set up no-fly zones. howard: no question about it, and getting those weapons through poland is going to be a race against time. we talked about the russians obliterating any semblance of an independent press. i'm told there are efforts to get independent information to

russians. what can you fill us in on that? >> well, what's really interesting, everyone should be keeping an eye on this, is elon musk set up a system of thousands of low earth satellites that his beyond all doubt through something called the starlink system is to get internet boxes, basically, little transponders around the world to places where the internet's being either kept offline by authoritarian regimes like russia or china, he sent a shipment of those to ukraine, and we've heard from the ukrainian president that that is a reason that the internet has stayed online and and the ukrainian resistance has been able to keep communicating. that is very significant, and he spoke to elon musk yesterday. you look at what's happening in russia right now, the question is can somehow through covert means get those starlink transponders into russia so that those young russians can stay on the internet because right now vladimir putin's trying to knock them off of the internet. this would be a modern day --

you'll remember, howie, back in the soviet union the underground newspapers that were printed out and handed person to person on the streets. that is what is happening right now. putin is trying to shut his people off from information about what is happening in ukraine. howard: high-tech. we have about a minute left, and i guess we should do a little bit of a history lesson because we have faced this before. the soviet invasion of hungary in 1956, czechoslovakia, 1968, afghanistan, 1979 and then the russian invasion of georgia in 2008 where the temptation and the instincts of many in the west are to stop the killing, to do what it makes -- takes. but in each of those instances the u.s. held back not wanting to go to war with russia in russia's spear of influence -- spear of dis, sphere of influence. >> reporter: when you look at the history of europe and the history of interventionism and what is the red line, better to fight a country early or a mad

leader like hitler or stalin early, when do you intervene, and that is an open question that i think we are seeing played out right now among the world's leaders. there's definitely unity right now, a vision that vladimir putin has to be stopped, that ukraine, it will send a message to other leaders like president xi, send a message to iran and others. the question is, what happens if this spills over? and what is very hard to know at this moment in time, is this a war in which nato is willing to go to war with russia, and right now her not. howard: yes, that's exactly right. thank you for your invaluable reporting, jennifer griffin, at the pentagon. >> reporter: thank you. howard: after the break, former white house official hogan gidley on what the former president is saying now. ♪ ♪ e traveled every road in this here land! ♪

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places georgia, crimea and now ukraine. he wants to restore the soviet union to its once-great glory, according to him. but he was all the coherent. now you're hearing him talking about zelenskyy being a nazi when he's jewish. it makes no sense. you hear people in the trump administration and condoleezza rice, for example, who had to deal with putin on a regular basis saying that he's lost a step in part because of his us isolationism, because he surrounds himself with sycophants. we've seen that play out, and the result is disastrous. howard: could this be, or turn out to be, i should say, a pretty political plug for president biden? the media are portraying him as leading a global war against russia, and i'm sure you have your criticisms, but the sanctions are, as a it turns out, having a crippling effect on the russian economy. >> well, i think that's a question best asked to the people of crimea. are those sanctions working? i mean, joe biden himself said

that they were going to work, and then they didn't. after they didn't he was asked about those sanctions and he said, hey, we always knew they weren't going to work and then when corned, said, wait -- cornered, wait a minute, it's going to take 30 days for those to pan out. ask the people of crimea and georgia about putin strength and now ask the people of ukraine as well. do they think 30 days is going to be enough time for them to survive this onslaught by vladimir putin? in fact, i don't know if they have 30 minutes, much less 30 hours. so a monthlong desire by joe biden to make this play out is absolutely ridiculous. i think it endangers the people of ukraine, the world sees it and nose it because joe bind, quite frankly, is quite weak. howard: well, it is also true that these sanctions are far more ambitious than what happened after the annexation of crimea in 2014. look, donald trump, who you worked for, is seen by the media as having openly questioned the

need for nato, also pushed nato members to spend more on the joint defense. without even getting into, first, impeachment and the so-called perfect phone call with zelenskyy, he said the other day there would be no nato if i didn't act strongly and swiftly. a lot of people were puzzled by that. >> well, look, i mean, i think it's pretty clear that nato exists the way it does today because of the relationships that donald trump was able to broker and build while he was president of the united states. in fact, it was general stoltenberg in private with us at many breakfasts and lunches that would praise donald trump saying thank you for asking these other countries who had not been paying their obligation of 2% of gdp to nato to do so. billions of dollars came pouring into that organization. you saw donald trump negotiate with other members of nato to try and get them to do that. it worked. and so the organization is stronger now than it ever was, but there's no doubt that that faced a lot of backlash from people in this country who have been part of the establishment forever, talking about donald

trump doing things outside of the norm, not the cookie cutter type response or activities. but those things yielded results. russia did not invade anywhere under donald trump, and nato is stronger, and countries have paid more into that organization. look, you understand that people around the world knew that they could count on the united states to be the piggybank for the world, in essence, and -- howard: no, i think it was -- [inaudible conversations] nato wasn't going to go away. look, i've got a minute left, let me ask you this. you started out by saying everyone knows now vladimir putin is evil. and yet the former president initially called him a genius for the way he maneuvered in ukraine. he has criticized the invasion but hasn't really criticized vladimir putin personally. why not? >> he's called this thing a holocaust, he said it's a travesty. donald trump understands who putin is. he had to work with him every single day -- howard: he also said he was a

friend the other day. >> right, absolutely. of course, working with foreign leaders to yield results. look, talk is cheap, and it's pretty prevalent in washington d.c., as you well know, howe wisconsin. the bottom line -- howie. the bottom line is russia didn't invade under donald trump's administration because he knew that had they been aggressive, like north korea, for example, they would have been met with swift, decisive action from our standpoint. howard: gotta that answer -- >> you can say what you want to about the relationship with foreign leaders, but we were safer, the world was safer because of donald trump. howard: well, we appreciate you views, hogan gidley. that debate will, of course, continue. why ukraine is being called the tiktok war and how the app's disturbing images are having a real impact. ♪ because every day matters. and having more of them is possible with verzenio. the only one of its kind proven to help you live significantly longer when taken with fulvestrant, regardless of menopause status.

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♪ howard: ukraine is being called the tiktok war, and that site usually more devoted to skits is helping to expose russian lies such as this ukrainian woman who posted footage of a food market after russia attacked. and russian missiles hitting kyiv, this one set to music. ♪ ♪ ♪ you've been hit by a smooth criminal ♪♪ howard: one ukrainian soldier got 14 million views for this video that helps humanize the armed forces. then there's a ukrainian influencer who points to what appears to be a damaged russian missile in a residential neighborhood. [speaking in native tongue] howard: these are reports -- reporters, but they have a speed

and a reach that's hard to match. a journalist is posting photos highlighting the damage from his country's invasion. the risk of going public is obvious. the number of views on tiktok videos tagging ukraine in the last nine days of february, just over 6 billion to 17 billion according to wired magazine. now some of the players are using social media as well. ukraine's defiant leader zelenskyy has posted his own videos from the streets and even gave cnn an interview from his secret bunker. >> are you not concerned though that the kremlin will double down on its military operations and hit ukraine even harder? >> translator: firstly, why are we winning, why are we defending ourselves? this is home. howard: and a mom who serves in parliament tweeted a photo of herself with a kalashnikov rifle and did some interviews as well. >> incentive over held a gun

in -- i've never held a gunning in my life. however, right now once russia declared war on us, i got super, super angry. howard: sometimes a traditional media outlet helps a video go viral as in the case of a teacher who was badly wounded when her home was bombed. she said, never, under any conditions, will i submit to putin. it is better to die. just heartbreaking. now, one problem is that some of the pictures and videos posted to places like tiktok have turned out to contain untrue information, but those posting real stuff are enabling the world to see the ugly face of putin's brutal invasion, and that is why he is badly losing the social media war. that's it for this edition of immediate -- "mediabuzz," we'll continue this conversation on twitter as we cover this extremely important story. check out media buzz meter,

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