>> let's go. let's go. go, go, go. move. arthel: vladimir putin appears to be ramping up his attacks against civilians in ukraine and now the relentless russian shelling is complicating the evacuation process as we get reports that some children were killed as their families ran for their lives. welcome to fox news live.

i'm arthel neville. hi, eric. eric: thank you for joining us on this sunday. cities continue to be under siege in ukraine as humanitarian ceasefire failed to halt, russia is bombing the humanitarian corridors and putin's forces are even firing rockets they say near yet another rocket reactor in ukraine. the europeon union refusing to close air space that it could spark a war as nato has turned down a no-fully zone over same fears of the conflict spreading. still ukraine brave president volodymyr zelenksyy pressing his plea for the globe to help. >> the world is strong enough to close our skies to russian missiles, fighter jets and helicopters, but if someone still has doubts, then ukraine needs planes, it's easy actually when you have the will in order to make ukraine's and europe

skies safe. eric: a lot on the fly -- no-fly zone. first let's go to trey i didn'tn kviy. what is the situation just after 7:00 p.m., trey? trey: eric, good afternoon, yesterday we brought you the stories of civilians who were fleeing in a town called irpin just northwest of the capital of kyiv, people were making their way from a bombed out bridge and today we come with disturbing and upsetting development, 3 people were killed at the very location after one of the russian shells fired at the civilians hit a road striking some of those people trying to run for their lives. it's a development that's taking place here around the capital but representative of what we are seeing across this country

not only in kyiv, the russians are targeting civilians from the air and the ground and many people dying as a result. ukrainian volodymyr zelenksyy once again is appealing to the international community to stop doing business with russia. he's asking for fighter jets to come to this country and more air defense system. he understands if the russian shellings and air campaigns continue more people will die. there are checkpoints every single block, civilians and soldiers alike have taken up arms and are working, preparing to defend the city. we heard sirens as air campaigns continue and we know just a few miles outside of city limits are russian forces. they are preparing according to u.s. defense officials to encircle the city in the coming days. if that does take place we will see bloody urban campaign and many civilians caught in the cross fire, eric.

eric: trey, the resolve of the brave ukrainians is absolutely amazing. what is the sense and what is their mood as the russian forces potentially could encircle that city, what about the food situation? how are you dealing with this? what are the preparations for that? trey: look, major problem for civilians and we are seeing it unplay and unfolding as we speak. there are 400,000 people in the critical port city in the south and they don't have power and they don't have water and the humanitarian corridor that is the russians agrees to respect is being targeted and that's the situation. the russians will say we will give you a few hours to get the civilians out of the way. they allow buses to come in, we saw the images and they target the very route. it's difficult because civilians make the decision to stay at home or do you get on the bus not knowing where you're headed and also risk getting targeted

there and this is the decision that many ukrainians have to make today and unfortunately in the coming week. we expect to see heavier air campaigns against civilians and people will be faced this decision to stay or go. so far the russians have not respected the temporary ceasefire agreements and no indication they will in the near future, eric. eric: you're right in the middle of this, what are the precautions that you're taking in terms of supply on report for fox news right in the heart of kyiv? trey: look, we prepared. we have a team that has covered war all around the world and we are focused on two things, safety and the story. and so once safety is out of the way we can continue to tell the story of the people here in ukraine. our goal is very simple, we want to shine light in dark places and make sure that the world is holding those accountable who are taking actions against civilians and understanding truly what's happening here on the ground.

eric. eric: stiller fox news reporter from trey yingst and fox team, thank you. arthel: thank you, trey, thank you, eric. tens of thousands more ukrainians fleeing their war-torn towns this weekend. the country's state railway stepping up efforts to bring people from eastern cities to safety, dropping them in the western city of lviv and from there buses and trains take them to neighboring countries like poland. point pleasant beach, new jersey mayor paul has been working with an aid group to help as refugees cross the border. >> you can't truly prepare yourself emotionally. we are standing here at the main train station terminal which is where the refugees that are escaping through the lviv station, the first stopping point in poland. there's thousands of people coming through a day. a lot of them don't have any resources, a lot of them don't have any place to go. they are being routed to larger

cities throughout poland and the eu. arthel: mike tobin live in lviv with more. mike, what is it like where you stand? mike: well, the train system really is a lifeline for the people out here particularly that train that comes from kyiv here to lviv. you don't need a ticket and the trains don't run on schedule. you turn on when the passenger cars are full the train heads off to lviv, the problem is only four trains leaf to poland. a lot of people piling up. there's not enough space to house them, there's not enough food to feed them. you have humanitarian crisis piling up here and you have it on the other side of the border. if people go by car, backup at the border stretched as listening as 30 miles. you have the imagery of people who have abandoned cars and taken what they can carry and walk for the border, the latest numbers from the unhcr, 1.5 million people have fled

across the western border here. most of them, almost 900,000 have gone into poland. so it's very dire situation as people are fleeing with their lives, mostly women and children are the ones heading across because the men stayed back to fight, arthel. arthel: it's 7:07 p.m., mike. i see behind you a stream of cars driving behind you. what's happening there in town? mike: well, the curfew doesn't go into effect 10:00 o'clock local time so people still have time to get around. you see what appears to be life as normal out on the streets. people are going about their task running their errands but they are very aware of the dire situation and n their nation. they are very aware that their country has been invaded. so you don't see a lot of joy amongst the people here, tremendous resolve to participate in the fight. that hasn't waned at all, but until the curfew, life does appear from 30,000 feet to be somewhat normal here in the

western part of the country. arthel: all right, live in lviv, ukraine, mike tobin, thank you. >> i knew -- i knew that it will be so hard and she can't make this trip. >> my colleague was shotly shoty russian soldiers when she tried to go to the tunnel, she's dead now. eric: those are heartbreaking accounts from ukrainians as tens of thousands are struggling to escape the country. 1.5 million ukrainians have escaped to neighboring countries. the majority of them first arrived in poland and that's where alex hogan is. she's live near the border with ukraine. alex, refugee camp, what is the situation like and the conditions like there. alex: eric, half of the people fleeing ukraine have come through poland and this is a

major hub where many of these people are leaving. we are seeing a lot of children like the little boy who is stepping on the bus accompanied by his family. they -- many of them didn't have time to grab suitcases. these people are carrying plastic bags carrying everything that they own. we see the faces of children and many of these windows and just groups and groups of people, one after another, there are thousands of people are at this refugee center. this was a warehouse just a couple of weeks ago and now it is the home that people have turned to. nowhere else to go. and we talked with a lot of these people about the situation that they saw and how difficult it was to get here regardless of how close their bordering city might have been. we talked with one woman, tonya, who explained the difficult journey. >> when i took four kids. we had to go through fields. we got on a crowded train in

lviv, the train was 22 hours. people were lying on the floor. alex: again, a busy couple of days for people that have been traveling nonstop and in the center it is just caught after caught of people curled up together sleeping and we should credit the team with volunteers. they have been working nonstop to bring food to as many people as possible and many people are traveling for days, it is cold and the floors are dirty as well but people huddling up getting whatever warmth that they can. again, fleeing everything that they have known trying to go somewhere safe hoping they will be able to go back to ukraine and not knowing when that will happen, eric. eric: they are fleeing for their lives in trying to seek safety and life from putin's butchering

and savagery. some of the people don't know where they're going, you have neighbors offering rides and their phones, tell us about that. alex: we saw people holding up signs saying they had open seats in their cars. something that we have seen here with people, these are people who don't have anywhere to go. many of them have been holding up signs saying where they would like to go and i've seen a lot of people inside. we can't bring our cameras in there but i can describe what it looks like. they have been communicating through sign language or whatever words they can get through to make someone understand it's been a beautiful site to see, people coming from all walks of life trying to understand each other and try to give each other whatever support they can. so many children just like this one. we've seen a lot of crying kids, but also showing resilience of the children. they've been given toys and blankets and volunteers are here trying to help in any way that

they can. take a look at just right here at the mount of trash. this is just an example of all of the food that people are bringing in, donating their food trucks here, doing whatever they can to be able to feed people, at least they are warm. all of the people who are leaving now are getting onto buses but inside the welcome center, people can say, people that have nowhere to go, they are allow today stay here as long as they need and that is exactly what the polish government has said that they will do. they will offer people refuge and they will continue to open the doors, eric. eric: the best of humanity still shines in the evil and dark time. alex hogan, alex, thank you. arthel. arthel: i was thinking the same thing, eric. there are more good people than there are evil in this world. meanwhile an urgent appeal from ukraine's president as he calls for more air power to fight against relentless russian shelling how u.s. and poland are working together to try to make

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that is ukrainian pilots know how to fly. what i had been told originally and one of the problems that the u.s. face, the u.s. was never blocking poland from providing migs to ukraine but it was not so easy to get f-16's fitted for poland, those -- they are not inventories of those in the united states ready for delivery to poland but what i'm hearing now is there are about 13 plus fighter squadrons based in europe and the u.s. could perhaps shift f-16s temporarily to poland that would give them a sense of security if they were to provide those migs. again, how would the migs get to ukraine? it would probably require ukrainian pilots going across the poland and flying them over. the real problem is will vladimir putin see this as a provocation, a provocation from an article 5 nato nation and will -- does this threaten to spread the war from poland and to other article 5 nations.

there's also then the issue and the request by president zelenskyy to set up a no-fly zones which are difficulty and because of risk nato planes coming in contact to russian planes which could lead to a war between nato and russia, article they will. arthel: i'm glad that you spoke to that, jen, we heard the pleas from president zelenskyy asking for air cover and many americans, people around the world are heartbreaken watching why won't the u.s. and nato implement the no-fully zone and you just spoke about the danger involved. >> it's interesting, arthel, the u.s. set up 3 no-fly zones in the past 3 decades, if you go back 1991 to 2003, no-fly zone over iraq, north and south, it was to stop saddam hussein,

shiites. and there was an american pilot shot down during that time, everyone will remember scott -- colonel scott o'grady who was shot down by a war plane, a third war plane and was on on the ground, marines had to be sent to find him and in 2011 a no-fly zone over libya but these were not nuclear powers but the problem with nato going setting up no-fly zone they would be face to face with russian war planes. arthel: indeed. jennifer griffin reporting live from the pentagon, thank, jen. >> if nato entered the conflict by bringing in a no-fly zone which would involve fighting nato -- fighting russian air units, that would lead to a

worst situation, it would lead to a bigger confrontation in war and it would ultimately lead to more people being killed and it would not help ukraine and i know that's a difficult message. eric: british ambassador to the united states karen pierce here on fox news yesterday bluntly outlining the fears of no-fly zone but the mid 29 war planes, that could be compromise for now. retired general philip, former supreme allied commander europe nato and distinguished chair of the frontier europe initiative at the middle east institute joins us now. you commanded nato in theater and faced putin, is that a prudent move or sign of nato weakness? >> well, i think this is a move that the leadership of both nato and the united states, they have made a decision, we understand that decision.

our efforts now are to keep the conversation alive. remember that swift was off the table until it was back on the table. so right now the no-fly zone is off the table until maybe it's back on the table. how much more brutality and criminality out of mr. putin do we need to watch before we begin to reconsider. eric: it could be pleas like this from president zelenskyy to put it back on the table. here is the president with his emotional plea to the world to impose a no-fly zone, let's listen. >> the world is strong enough to close our skies to russian missiles, fighter jets and helicopters but if someone still has doubts, then ukraine needs planes. it's easy actually when you have the will in order the make ukraine and europe skies safe. eric: they are now talking about providing the mid 29 from poland and romania. do you think it's a potential

compromise or if they ever impose a no-fly zone? >> well, could i make a remark about the no-fly zone? we have looked at several no-fly zones and what we are advocating for now is humanitarian assistance no-fly zone tailored to be less. and what you saw in the couple of days humanitarian assistance mariupol were attacked by russia and shouldn't surprise us. as to the transfer of the aircraft, i think it's a wonderful idea. it was originally not adopted, i believe, because one of the great allies was talking about fighting from their soil but just transporting the airplanes to ukraine from them to use i think is a wonderful idea. eric: the russian military spokes defense spokesman said

using the war planes if they are transferred they would see as a potential engagement in this conflict. is there a fear that if poland and romania gives the ukraine the migs, russia would attack poland or romania? >> well, i think we should not listen to the spokesperson and listen directly to mr. putin. mr. putin has already said that our economic measures are, our sanctions have brought us into the war. so in his mind we are in this war. eric: tell us about what's in his mind, the russian forces are closing in on kyivi and there's a siege of kyiv, what if we start ad berlin air lift and drop food, would putin see that as a sign of war and something that's provocative? >> in fact, some very learned and highly respected colleagues a couple of my mentors are now

writing and suggesting humanitarian air lift and that would be a possibility as well to get that -- those provisions straight to the people. but i love your question about what is mr. putin thinking. listen, we are completely in support of the ukrainian people but mr. putin is thinking even bigger than that. if you look at the two documents that he gave us and said sign them or i will give you other measures, what we now understand those were. he's really after reorganizing the security architecture of europe and reestablishing the soviet union and taking control of all those border states it used to have and so while we now labor and pass our best to ukrainian people who are fighting alone, fighting alone for western values, we have to remember that putin has sites much bigger than even this. eric: finally, do you think,

will putin win? >> i don't ever bet on the -- the shall we say the bad guy. i'm not going to bet on it. i believe in the humanity of this world. i believe in what the west stands for and what the people of the west will stand for. and so i don't think mr. putin wins in the long game but the question is in the short game how many ukrainians have to die? eric: putin must not win, just as we faced a similar threat 80 years ago from adolf hitler. retired general philip, former nato supreme allied commander, general, thank you and thank you for your service to our country. >> thank you. eric: arthel. arthel: thank you, general, thank you, eric. the united nations is calling it the fastest growing refugee crisis in europe since world war

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arthel: fox news alert. we have brand-new video of the destruction at ukraine's have neglect shea airport, ukrainian officials say that at least 8 russian missiles hit the city and you can see emergency services trying to trying to put

out the fires,, alexis. alex: new video shows all of the rubble that we have seen in the vinnystia airport on the screen. it's a completely lost. take a look here. some of the other video that we are getting. you can see the large goods depo there on fire. smoke coming right out of the top of the building right there near kyiv in the same region. the depo is next the highway headed to lviv. russians shelling the area causing the massive blaze. the depo is one of several buildings burned and destroyed during russian attacks. take a listen to this. >> there are russian checkpoints and release local residents. >> it's continuing to have people leave the area rather and

evacuate. we are getting new video that you can see on the screen now. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenksyy telling us that the missile strike completely destroyed the airport in the area. the vinnystia airport. you can see they are leaving and finally days after waiting for the treatment they are ready to leave coming after the kids waited for days to get that cancer help. and back here in the studio, i can tell you this is days 1 of russia's war on ukraine and that video just heroine as it continues to come and you see kids being stopped at the checkpoint hoping they can get through with their families as their dads stay behind when they try to flee the area. arthel: it's horrible and to think the human toll so unnecessary. alexis mcadams, thank you.

eric. eric: there are calls for president biden to ramp up the pressure on putin. congress on the call to ban russian oil import to our country. >> we need to make sure that we are reinforcing ukraine and providing as much lethal aid as possible. >> there's been a sense of frustration that the administration has reacted slowly when they could have chosen to be proactive. >> i think that we need to show strength and i think that our president needs to show more strength. >> incredibly important that we do what we can to -- to supply president zelenskyy and the ukrainians with the equipment and with the support that they need. eric: we provided $22 million a day in russian oil. alexandra hoff where the president is spending the

weekend at his home, alexandria? reporter: well, eric, last night president biden spoke with president zelenskyy for over half hour and the discussion to send additional humanitarian and economic aid. during that call, president biden also commended the heroism of the operators of the ukraine nuclear power plant who were able to secure reactors even as it came under russian attack last week. as for domestic energy, secretary blinken said today that the u.s. is in active discussions with european partners about russian oil. it makes up 10% of what the u.s. import and could hurt us more than them leading to higher fuel costs but the move has been called a moral obligation but lawmakers, bipartisan legislation is being pushed, that's being led by senator joe manchin and senator chris murphy weighed in. >> if prices go up naturally through the mechanism will are more u.s. production. joe manchin represents a coal

state. i represent a state that will have a wind power online very soon so my preference would be to try to fill in that gap with renewable energy. >> the republicans have pointed to the keystone xl pipeline that was suspended by president biden and the administration last year as a resource they could have supported energy needs at a time like this. the gel of all of this is to further isolate president putin and during president biden's call with zelenskyy he said he welcomed the decision by visa and mastercard to suspend services in russia so little by little russia is being squeezed, eric. eric: little by little. they say it needs much more. arthel. arthel: my life is divided on, before and after february 24th, 2022. after the -- i became a person

who is trying to survive and trying to defend my son, my parents who live in my city. every day bringing us more evil and me destruction to the ukrainian people. arthel: leaving everything that they know and desperate to escape as others take up arms to defend their homeland as president putin's invasion extends. 1.5 million refugees have escaped to neighboring european countries. let's bring julia mandel, spokesperson for volodymyr zelenksyy and you're currently a ukrainian journalist and i want to talk to you about that angle first. you liver and work from lviv,

what is the angle of the most recent story and how are you telling the story of the 1.5 million ukrainian refugees running for their lives. >> hi, first of all, thank you for having me here. right now the war is in every part of the country and even if i feel relatively safe in the west of ukraine, of course, we see everywhere that the war is going on and we have shortages in some of the shops and we have everything closed and we hear airplanes in the sky and we have a lot of refugees coming from different parts of the country that is being bombarded. and we also have people who prepared weaponry and are going to the territorial defense, cocktail molotov, et cetera, et cetera. we are working on delivery of humanitarian aid, we need to prepare the logistics and get in

touch with different types of authorities and it's pretty difficult also because of lack of fuel for -- for cars and because of curfews and because of check points. however, i worry most about my family, because my family has been blocked in the city of kherson in the south of the country and they are on verge of humanitarian crisis. they already have food shortages and don't have electricity and they don't have transportation. they can't leave the city and they cannot -- the atm's, you can't send money there. you know, a lot of people who died there because they do not have medicine and they do not have good medical care and a lot of people die from heart strokes and because of asthma and different diseases. so it's difficult to see that. there's in connection in russia

television. they deny russian aid and russians are not welcome there. the russian speaking population there by the way and they do not want russia to be in ukraine. so there's no idea about -- over 100 nationalities living in my region own in the south of ukraine and when putin talks about -- it doesn't make any sense. arthel: your president is jewish. i wanted to let you go. i will ask a question now. not to mention your president is jewish as well. you said something about the checkpoints. is there a problem getting the people out and into other countries. i thought that that was a quite easy that they weren't really going to be checking too much in terms of documentations?

>> what i'm talking about right now is that the whole country is in checkpoint. some of the checkpoints are by official servicemen of ukraine, national guard of ukraine and other checkpoints are made by people who decided to join territorial defense units member -- men and female who want to defend villages and, of course, they check the cars. the other thing that makes it difficult is lack of fuel so when you grab a car, you actually do not have all the stations selling fuel. for instance, if it takes usually to come from kyiv to lviv5 hours, 5 to 7 hours, now 24 to 48 hours to come from one town to another town. one thing about refugees is that there are of course difficulties there and it's not about the west, western countries are welcoming ukrainian refugees and

we are grateful though long lines and many ukrainians are trying to -- to save their lives mostly the female with kids. arthel: with children. julie -- >> i'm sorry. arthel: i want to ask you a specific question if i may because more than 230,000 ukrainians are seeking refuge in moldova. given what's unfolding in ukraine, are you certain they are, in fact, going to a safe zone? >> can you repeat? i'm sorry i didn't hear you. arthel: do you think, you have more than 230,000 ukrainians going into maldova, given what we are seeing unfold in ukraine, do you think that is a safe zone, moldova? >> that's a very good question. what is going on right now when ukraine is asking to provide no-fly zone, it's like kind of

simplified dialect when russia says, you cannot -- you cannot provide -- kill ukraines from the sky and i will come after you and the answer is scary. let's see if ukraine calls, that's great. he never said he would not and i don't know if they trust putin but moldova is not even a nato country but definitely our neighbor. are very afraid that putin will come after them if ukraine loses. moldova -- >> arthel: yeah. >> that's why we are demanding no-fly zone above ukraine. arthel: i asked you moldova specifically for that reason. one final question, you president zelenskyy's secretary,

as president zelenskyy is admired worldwide and leadership has surpassed expectation of many, are you surprised or would you expect this type of courage by president zelenskyy? >> thank you. when the united states had this very generous gesture to help president zelenskyy from kyiv that was under threat of invasion, i knew that it wouldn't happen because i knew it wasn't part of the character of the president to leave his people. i was traveling with him all around the world and in ukraine and mostly he was traveling to donbas that russia invaded 8 years ago and he was eager to go to zero position where our soldiers, he never aboarded

shellings and he was always sending near our soldiers to show that his leadership is of that kind when the leader must stay with the people. you know, if for president zelenskyy leaves ukrainian people he actually would abandon the whole nation and nowadays nation believes in him and rises this kind of leadership. i'm sure he will stand in kyiv to the very end. this is the type of zelenskyy that i have known for years. arthel: we stand behind you former spokesperson, press secretary for ukrainian president zelenskyy. julia mandel. thank you very much and try to stay safe. eric: we pray for president zelenskyy and the american people. american basketball star is being detained under russian charges, two-time medalist was

going through the moscow airport when security there found vape charges with cannabis oil in her luggage. christina coleman following the developing story from los angeles. christina. christina: this high-profile american is now in russian cost dye while russia continues its war on ukraine and escalates tension with the u.s. and other countries. yesterday russia's custom services released the edited security video of what appears to be brittany greiner getting screamed at the airport. if found guilty she can spend up to a decade in a russian prison. it's unclear huh russia's investigation into the matter will take. yesterday the state department updated its travel advisory saying u.s. citizens should leave russia immediately over safety concerns. also the state department is aware of greiner's situation. >> whenever an american is detained anywhere in the world, we, of course, stand ready to

provide every possible assistance. >> phoenix mercury star amy greiner's competes in russia in off season. her wife posted this picture of them on instagram saying that she appreciates all the prayers and support. she says she loves her wife wholeheartedly and it's one to have weakest moments of her life and wnba support greiner and her main priority is swift return to the u.s., eric. eric: thank you so much. arthel: absolutely. putin's brutal assault in ukraine continues to the 11th day. can it be stopped and how, moscow chief dan hoffman with his analysis.

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subjectated and it could take some time. eric: that was secretary antonin blinken which show nos signs of backing down. what is this thinking, what makes putin tick, someone who knows putin's brain very well, former moscow chief dan hoffman, fox news contributor, so dan, is vladimir putin unstable, unbalanced? how sicko is he? danielle: i spent many years in the cia career trying to see the world through twisted kgb eyes. by our standards he's not rational but by standard of kgb kremlin he's acting rationally. we have to factor that into our strategy forrish deucing war to end the war against ukraine. eric: what will induce putin and his brain to end this war, what

pressure point will make him realize that he has to stop? do you think that will never come? >> well, i think the first thing we have to do is support ukraine. first support president zelenskyy because he's mobilizing the west. he's awaken democracies out of post war slummer and we are provided humanitarian assistance. we have to do more. they need more antiship missiles, they need aircraft, fighter aircraft. that's something that's being discussed right now. but they need it urgently. and the goal, i think, for us keep ukraine in the fight and make it clear, president biden should make it clear from the bully pulpit that ukrainians are at war with vladimir putin. this is putin's war, it's not a war that the russian people want to fight. the russian people know that ukraine presents absolutely no threat to russia, just a threat to vladimir putin's regime

security because what scares him the most is democracy especially in the former soviet union and neighbor like ukraine. eric: is anyone in the kremlin to rein him back, with they rise up against him as been suggest suggested that someone put a bullet in his head, how do you think he can change his behavior? >> yeah, the wars have not been kind to soviet or russian dictatorships. the russians empire collapsed in the wake of world war i. general secretary in the latter couple of of his life to invade afghanistan and i'm not so sure that vladimir putin's advisers can change putin's calculus. again, this is his personal war against ukraine but they do have to consider that russia is spilling an amount of blood and treasure. their economy is cratered and their soldiers are dying and the key advisers for putin,

administer of defense, national security adviser, they all represent strong constituencies in russia and the question is whether we reach a breaking point and the russian military insecurity services decide they can no longer take orders from kgb guy in the kremlin who was demanding that they commit atrocities against innocent civilians and cost so much harm not only to ukraine but to russia as well. eric: 20 seconds left, do you think that's possible, they'll pull him out? >> if i were at the cia briefing the director, low level of confidence, that's going to happen in the near term but the longer ukraine stays in the fight the more likely the possibility grows. eric: dan hoffman, we can only, the world can only hope that happens, thank you for your service to the country and being here coverage on fox news continues. here i'll take that! (excited yell) woo-hoo! ensure max protein. with thirty grams of protein,

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mike: ukrainian president saying 8 russian missiles, quote, completely destroyed civilian airport, 4 hour drive from kyiv, first responders on the scene are working to put out the flames and comb through the rubble. zelenskyy proves his country needs a no-fly zone. welcome to fox news live i'm mike emanuel. gillian: i'm