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>> dana: take the money and run. >> bill: there is a lot to think about. the implications from this war. i know we were speaking over the weekend on text and just so many story lines that come from this and i think at the moment nobody really knows where it goes. >> dana: they moved disabled children -- they tried to move them out of kyiv yesterday. incredible effort and heartbreaking. harris faulkner is next. here she is. >> harris: did you see how close that was to the man who was running? massive explosions outside kyiv delivering next level. civilians, not military targets. civilians running for the borders hiding and dying as russian forces relentlessly shell city after city. >> it is like a disaster.
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the city is almost ruined. >> honestly it's really terrible but all in all we must support each other. >> my feeling is that i'm afraid about tomorrow. i'm afraid about now. we are lost. we don't know what we are doing. >> harris: i'm afraid about the world. so present in that moment to know it's more than ukraine. in just a matter of days vladimir putin has cemented his status as a global important eye yeah, the devil incarnate. putin's forces targeting civilians in the north, east and south. the shelling continues today. it would be the third cease-fire russian has broken. this fact, insane putin offered two ways out for ukrainians to escape their death, they can go to russia or they can go to the
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blood thirsty partner belarus. the end goal is still to flip this democracy. putin wants the capital city kyiv where russian troops are moving to isolate that city. ukrainian president zelenskyy says nato and its allies must do more now instead of just watching from a distance. u.s. intelligence has found more than 4500 russian troops have died in the fight since the war began. ukraine puts that number much higher. former ukrainian president poroshenko makes it basic. >> putin is not just an aggressor, he is a war criminal. putin make crimes against humanity. this is a genocide against ukrainian people. >> harris: k.t. mcfarland and pete hegseth this hour. fox team coverage. mike tobin in western ukraine. alex hogan inside poland and in
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ukraine's capital here is trey yingst live for us. trey. >> harris, good morning. the russians today announced new evacuation routes for civilians. though the ukrainians say these corridors go to russia and belarus. we just returned from the front lines where civilians remain caught in the crossfire. >> there is large group of civilians fleeing the city and holding a white flag to show the russians know they are not a threat and trying to get out of the city. >> our lives are broken forever and you have no hope. >> she has been walking for miles and tells us she tried to shield the eyes of her young daughter as they passed bodies in the war torn streets of the city. >> i will tell the war is a disaster. and it dies many there in our town, many die, people just like on the street. >> in the distance ukraine
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soldiers crouch down worried about russian snipers and shelling. they tell fleeing civilians to hurry and stay low. the evacuation for these people has become more difficult as russians fire mortar shells at this position. >> i was leaving the complex over there at the other end of the city. they destroyed everything. >> yesterday four people were killed as they left this suburb of kyiv. russian troops pushed forward overnight and drove tanks through the streets. >> they told us to go because there is a war and when we start to go our houses -- >> russia says they aren't targeting civilian areas, the sounds of war pierce the air today. ukraine and russia are holding a third round of talks today. no major developments are expected. >> harris: trey, thank you very much. pete hegseth co-host of "fox & friends" weekend in "focus" now. one first big question.
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what's at stake? >> what's at stake is repelling an authoritarian who basically is saying i want the soviet union back. i want ukraine back and kyiv back and what's at stake is making sure we don't allow it to become an article 5 larger, broader war than that. so equipping and supplying ukraine with what it needs faster than we have. we haven't been doing it. the biden administration hasn't been doing it fast enough to they can further bog putin down and push him back. it will be long and bloody but those are the stakes for the united states of america. >> harris: before we get into all the military movement and all of that that so much your expertise, i want to get your thoughts on the back and forth between some of these nato nations on how they step in and how they don't. and you say keep us out of the fray in terms of having to go to war with russia. what's the strategy there?
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>> the strategy there is to wait nato countries up to their obligations on their borders. they went with us to afghanistan because we were attacked and the lead effort. article 5 was triggered. in this particular case is nato countries in eastern europe who are the most direct threat should putin expect to expand and should he seek to expand. as a result they should be the lead in arming right now and equipping themselves now and readying themselves now and making calls to stronger allies like germany and france and u.k. saying help us deter. we would be there, too, with air support and other assets to support should it go in that direction. but it's a wake-up call, harris, a wake-up call for nato and donald trump was trying to give them. if you don't fund your military and don't take it seriously threats will gather. in this case vladimir putin has been telling us for the better part of two decades what he intends to do and history tells
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us when an authoritarian talks you ought to listen to him. even if you think what he is saying is deranged. >> harris: let's focus on vladimir putin. op-ed in the hill says putin is getting desperate. part of it reads desperation takes many forms and dictators when they get unhinged they crush information as putin did last week with his draconian censorship laws and restrictions. police went into a television station. including blocking facebook and foreign news outlets, all of that. the wall is journal reports russia has been recruiting fighters from syria for urban combat in ukraine. the move points to a potential escalation of fighting in the region. pete. >> i don't think he has another speed. it is double down and lockdown. lock down at home dissent through information and enforcement. he will do that.
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he is vulnerable there. he knows that. should word get out the amount of casualties and who the real aggressor is here he has serious domestic problems. he will keep locking down especially as the economy plummets. i would encourage folks to watch who is vladimir putin on fox nation. it talks about the human nature. it is good and helps you get an understanding how he views hume nature. will he double down on the tactics that brings civilians to their needs. he doesn't play by the rules of war. we call him a war criminal. he doesn't care. russia is not a signatory to the international criminal court. cease fires are an opportunity to reload and pick mortar gets and he is already saying -- this is the precarious part for zelenskyy. he said any man in the country
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pick up a rifle and fight. in the twisted mind of vladimir putin you know what that says? every man in the country who was the civilian is now a military target. any civilian target could be a military target. women and children that are there are human sheeds for the men who are carrying the guns. we talk about the targeting of civilians and rightfully so. he is saying they are military targets. he hasn't done it to kyiv the way he has done in other places like mariupol. we'll see it coming. he is bogged down and he will double down. >> harris: i encourage everybody to see that putin special on fox nation as well for this point it talks about it and you are getting to it, the mindset of a mad man in the latent stages of being a dictator. and he does not have the same qualms about humanity that he may have had a couple of decades ago. he doesn't. i want to take a live look at
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something feeling the pressure. the dow on wall street. one of the indexes we watch around the world where many of our retirement funds that comes from our jobs are. putin's war on ukraine is rattling markets worldwide today already. it was down a lot more than it is now. it will go back and forth and where it will close. a big part of all that, the price of oil. it hit $130 per barrel of crude for the first time since july of 2008. a time when he was working to invade another country. the pain at the pump is real for americans. take a look at this. the national average for a gallon of regular unleaded 4.06. people in california looking at nearly $7 per gallon. we're just five cents away from an all-time high. we're paying 45 cents more than we did just last week.
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a growing number of republicans are pleading with the white house to step up domestic oil production so we can ban imports from russia. >> we need to stop taking any russian oil. the idea that we would give our money to an enemy is unthinkable and it is absolute lunacy. we can't allow it to continue. >> harris: i will add this in. op-ed in the "wall street journal" says that taking away our dollars to russia for russian oil is largely symbolic because it ducks the main issue whether to sanction all russian energy exports. oil and gas revenues to make up half of the kremlin's budget. that's critical to financing vladimir putin's bloody war on ukraine. the problem is sanctions on russian energy could harm the world economy and especially europe unless the west is willing to grasp the metal. the world will continue to finance putin's war machine. next steps from pete hegseth now. >> you hit on it, harris,
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especially europe even more dependent and more powerful for them to take the step to stop importing russian oil. of course we should do that. the problem will cascade because of our own making and this administration's obsession with getting rid of any fuels whatsoever that powered our economy and continue to. you can't say let's get rid of them without a place to replace it and that's what they've done. i don't want to play the politics of this but the left will play the politics of this saying gas around the corner is 4.50 because of vladimir putin and his aggression. that is the recent contributor but our unwillingness to maintain energy independence and energy dom nantz. imagine if we had the cards in our hands to decide where it got shut off and where it went changes the game completely. lowers the price of oil
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completely which hurts vladimir putin even more. this administration is talking about tapping into resources from venezuela or an iran deal. we're sitting with russians over a potential iran deal which pay attention to this, harris, could lead to a deal for us to get oil and iranians to get nukes. i hope it doesn't come to that. we've created this situation for ourselves. >> harris: as you were speaking it is an observation that i often tie together. we don't play the long game because we're a young country. our brafsh aid owe makes us believe, the left. bravado tells you you don't have to play the long game on energy inat the pen dense. elon musk tweeted out we have to become more independent. it hurts my electric vehicle company. i love he called it that. a little company. but we have to do what we have
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to do for this extraordinary moment is what he called what we're in. wow. pete hegseth, thank you very much. the global question how do we stop a madman like vladimir putin and the consensus is he far from done with his murderous ways. >> ukraine did nothing to provoke this attack. ukraine are always a peaceful country. where democracy can feel safe right now. >> harris: russian forces continue killing civilians after ukraine calls putin's latest cease-fire offer a propaganda ploy. mike tobin in lviv where thousands are fleeing russia's assault into poland.
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>> harris: brand-new images at a hospital in kharkiv ukraine's second largest city located in the northeastern region where there are so much heavy artillery fire and shelling in the last few days. they are inundated with patients who are hurt. missile attacks leaving people without limbs and they need support. blood transfusions, that sort of thing. we can't get that material to them right now. they are being hit by shrapnel as things are exploding that lets you know the kinds of targets the russians are hitting but also the devices they are using. pete hegseth could go into this in more detail but you can see the video here. you know what i'm talking about.
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those things are loaded with things that tear you apart. so they are struggling those medical workers struggling to keep up in kharkiv. we get these brand-new images at this hour as we come on 6:20 p.m. in ukraine right now. and that is because as the sun sets people go through everything. journalists and try to give us the images so we can see them. bless those people, wow. those russian missiles destroying an airport now in central ukraine. this happened yesterday. the civilian death toll is now rising by the hour and putin's forces are unleashing a massacre from the air. ukrainians are trying to escape to safety but they are being hit from above. thousands packed into trains to
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lviv in western ukraine trying to get across the border to poland and going to other countries from there. the final stop before evacuating to surrounding countries. mike tobin is live on the ground in lviv and the streams of people have thickened. millions trying to get out. >> harris, it's another snowy, wet night. a lot of these refugees won't have a roof over their heads. the flow of refugees west is only increasing. at the train station in lviv it is packed with refugees from battle zones really all over the country. they talk about the guilt of leaving their homes and the guilt of leaving behind people who were too old, weak or sick to travel. and they talk about seeing explosions in the roadway as they flee their towns. >> i'm from kharkiv. there was a lot of environment and nightmare right now so i took my women here and right
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now they are in a safe place. >> they say 1.7 million refugees have fled for the border. poland has taken in over a million refugees already. because of the refugee crisis british prime minister boris johnson says the united kingdom is relaxing immigration standards to take some of the burden. >> processing thousands as i speak to you and clearly this crisis is evolving the whole time. i said before the u.k. will be as generous as we can possibly be and we intend to do that. >> meantime members of the ukrainian and russian cease-fire delegations are face-to-face near the poleish border in the country of belarus. the two meetings have created a
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cease-fire that fell apart. they are very far apart. >> harris: he keeps killing people as they try to flee when it is supposed to be an open corridor. thank you. president zelenskyy pleading with a no fly zone over his country. lawmakers very concerned in the united states over what that could lead to and if the u.s. should consider it as an option. >> no-fly zone, it means world war iii. it is not some rule you pass that -- it is the willingness to shoot down the aircraft of the russian federation which is the beginning of world war iii. >> would you support a no-fly zone. >> this is putin's war and his quest. to take anything off the table thinking we might not be able to use things because we've taken them off the table is wrong. i would take nothing off the table. >> harris: k.t. mcfarland
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former trump national security advisor. i thought it was interesting to see a republican senator mark rube owe on one side saying don't think about it and manchin said don't take everything off the table. >> here is the problem and it is tragic because it is not fair. the ukrainian people are fighting for their independence but at the end of the day what happens with a no-fly zone. the united states would step in and guarantee no airplanes are flying over ukraine. whose airplanes are flying over ukraine now? russian. we would have to shoot down russian airplanes and would trigger world war iii. it is possible to give them the weapons they need to fight and defend themselves by themselves. there is a distinct difference between the two. i would urge the latter and not the former. >> harris: i'm looking through my notes here because just a short time before we went live
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on the air poland's foreign minister said we would accept help by putting those migs in the air for ukraine. we don't have enough of them. we would except help for america and others that have planes that ukrainians can fly. lower tech than what the russians are flying but we'll give you what you need. a short time ago the foreign minister in poland said we haven't decided on that yet. what is going on? >> nato needs to get its act together. what happened in the last couple of days the germans have completely reversed course. germany, which was very reluctant to stand up to russia over energy partially because of the energy and they were committed to a course of we'll keep peace in europe because we'll buy russian energy and have an economic relationship with them and putin will never be aggressive in nato. it turned out to be false. the germans have completely reversed course and willing to
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give lethal weapons to the ukrainians. they are willing to shut down their energy imports from russia. they are even willing to consider coal and nuclear energy and the most radical environmentalists in germany are trying to do that. the poles know they are next and putin's goal ukraine is just a stop on the train on the way to the final destination. to break the back of nato. that's why germany and poland and all the european countries and our nato allies are saying we'll do whatever he can. >> harris: he is coming anyway. he is coming anyway. why would you pull out your agreement potentially to give migs to something -- you won't fly the planes but you said over the weekend not you but poland will jump in if everybody will give us more planes and make sure they get them. do they think that by saying no we didn't mean it putin is not
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coming? oh my goodness. china is now in front of its ceremonial parliament. this just happening. they're touting having a friendship with russia and calling it the most important strategic partner. you have told us for weeks this was going to be the deal. >> yeah, what is going to happen now is russia has china as the backup purchase for all of russian energy. the next thing is china looks at russia as the stalking horse what they want to do with taiwan. it didn't work out very well for putin but fighting the first war in the information social media age. so whatever sanctions the united states and other countries are putting on russia it's the private sector that's coming in. the credit card companies, the sporting goods companies coming in and saying no, we're going to isolate russia. it is a pariah nation. what military operations, it's
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the economic relationships that russia will feel for the weeks and months ahead. it could cripple and crush the russian economy. similar to what happened with the collapse of the soviet union. chinese are saying we want taiwan as much as vladimir putin wants ukraine. so we don't have to have this kind of repercussion against us. one way the chinese will stay let's stop using the american dollar as the currency for the world and let's start using the chinese money that the world uses as currency. >> harris: i'm wondering how many of these countries now will step up and fight for themselves like what will that look like to keep us from getting pulled into an article 5? just quickly, senator lindsey graham picked up a lot of fire for some words he said saying why don't forces just go after -- i would imagine he means covert or maybe somebody inside russia. i haven't talked with him myself. i would like to ask him but
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assassinate putin. senator marco rubio stopped short of rejecting calls for that. what do you make of it? >> it is an act of war. you can't just bump off a foreign leader you don't like and even though all putin is committing war crimes and everything else i think a deliberate assassination by one country of another country's leader is a place we don't want to go. there are other ways to take away putin's power. primarily the emergency. >> harris: our friends the nato. you mentioned germany. is there enough time at this point for them to get off the teat of russian oil and let's throw iran in here too since we're maybe looking to buy some of their oil. these countries need to be energy independent and maybe we're the ones to set the example of that again. we had already done it but now it's broken. >> what biden could do say to the american people we're off now. we'll now produce american
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energy oil and natural gas and go to the europeans and say we'll give you american lick yaid gas, cleaner, cheaper, more reliable and he will say to putin we'll drive the price of oil so low you won't have any money at all to fight these deliberate wars of aggression. >> harris: k.t. mcfarland, tough. appreciate your time and expertise as always. foreigners headed to ukraine to help people there in the face of putin's unbridled brutality including some americans are going there. my next guest in "focus" is using his army special ops experience to help smuggle people out of the country and needed supplies in next. stay close. then psoriatic arthritis. even walking was tough. i had to do something. i started cosentyx®. cosentyx can help you move, look, and feel better... by treating the multiple symptoms of psoriatic arthritis. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx.
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ukrainian forces putting up a tougher fight inside that city than russia expected. russian troops trapping civilians in the nation brutally slaughtering them trying to make their way to borders. ukrainians from all walks of life are stepping up to fight. >> i'm here and my father is here, you know, no one of us want to leave the country, go to a places, you know. things are going to be really bad here. we are going to go to the war and defend our country because we have no other way. >> harris: a former army special ops intelligence analyst now with a small group of ex-intel and ex-special ops personnel helping smuggle people out of ukraine and transporting supplies to those still in-country. thank you for being in focus today. i want to get your take on how things are on the ground for
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your mission of getting people out and getting supplies in. >> thanks. it has been a wild last 72 hours. humanitarian crisis is much worse than i could have ever managed. you don't realize how devastating it is until you stair at the people it's impacting on the ground. it is hard to look at the refugees who last week were living nice, peaceful life and now towns are destroyed. displaced women and children. elderly. they have disastrous situation. it is a terrible situation across the board. >> harris: details we don't often think of. we know putin's military targeted a maternity hospital so we know little ones are caught in the way and we see them in the pictures. what are the people telling you as you smuggle people over the border out of the country, you see men coming back to fight.
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what are those men telling you? >> they are strong and ready and know it's much bigger than just ukraine. it is the gateway to europe and the situation on the ground is changing rapidly. we headed into the capital of kyiv to see the situation on the ground there as well. we had american citizens and nato allies that needed to get rescued. a very dangerous journey, quite frankly, into the capital there. few corridors leading in that aren't destroyed by russians or militias, checkpoints everywhere. unclear on the ground a lot of times who exactly is manning the checkpoints. are the military on locals with shotguns who could be trigger happy. they are ready for a fight. you have ukrainians chopping down trees to put them in main roads to stop russian advances. we were questioned at every
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checkpoint. they know that they will fight the russians potentially and they know that it is inevitable. when we went into kyiv we heard explosions from russian artillery and striking civilian targets and infrasfruk tour. they are targeting civil yanks. we've seen it on the ground. the city is on high alert. a scary feeling but quiet at the same time. there is a feeling in the air. >> harris: a couple of things. you mentioned american citizens among those who you were trying to smuggle out of the country. did we have many people left behind? i know i've been keeping in contact on low channels and social media with some who were at the universities but what are you seeing in terms of our people left behind? why are they still there? >> there are hundreds of americans still trapped. they don't know where to go. they tried to each out to the
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u.s. embassy. u.s. administration in the region and what we are doing and they're not responding to american citizens on the ground. one of the first situations i've ever seen if you are stuck the american government has said we're not coming for you. i have never experienced th. i'm used to times when we never leave americans behind on the battlefield. a lot of these entry points in and out of the country you aren't finding american officers. it is up to folks like us and project dynamo going in and getting people out. we see firsthand the situation down there and it is dangerous. inside kyiv itself empty highways and wrecked cars. they expect a massive offensive in the next 24 hours and hardening that city with barricades and concrete blocks and checkpoints are looking for russian reconnaissance vehicles. very hard to take photos and
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videos because people are on high alert. a major situation unfolding. humanitarian corridors, no one knows what that is. someone needs to figure that out. deaths are mounting with strikes on residential areas and it will only get worse. >> harris: you have given me my next line of work here at fox news and we'll reach out to the state department. what you've said about the embassies and how they aren't assisting american citizens is counter in your words to what is being publicly said. so we need to chase that down because you can't do all the smuggling through project dynamo on your own. >> it is counter to the american way. >> harris: stay safe. i appreciate you bringing us so much news and i know that every time you go live, every time others talk with us there is a risk. you are part of what is happening there to keep things safer for other people. god bless you in your mission.
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russia is amping up its shelling of civilian areas. look, brett was just telling us this, destroying ukrainian homes and neighborhoods and taking lives. the humanitarian crisis growing as 1.7 million have now fled the country. we'll take a closer look from outside the area he was hunkered down in to see what people on the ground are doing and we'll go right to that polish border. stay close.
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>> harris: russian pummeling ukrainian civilian targets trying to break the will of the nation and its people. ukraine's national security advisor says they are now preparing for a second wave of attacks focused on major population centers around the country. a quote. create a situation of humanitarian disaster. they're already doing that. president zelenskyy of ukraine says russia's next move is to bomb the seaport city of odesa. let's get into it with bill hemmer, co-anchor of "america's newsroom." >> bill: another week, right? want to start in odesa down here. why go after that? it's a significant town. population one million. now senior defense officials as of late on sunday say there is no evidence they see of any
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sort of amphibious assault on -- they haven't seen the signs of it happening yet. there were ships in the black sea but on friday or late on thursday they turned around and went the other way. why? who is to say. there has been an offer earlier today on behalf of moscow to allow the humanitarian corridors to allow those in kyiv and over in the northeast in kharkiv and also down here in mariupol to give them a chance to exit that city and get to safer areas perhaps in the western side of ukraine or even into poland. the problem is some of these escape routes for these people were leading them to russia or belarus. that's a non-starter for ukrainians. that won't happen. i think like last week when we left off and we were talking this is really still -- it is
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where the military action is. however, over the past 48 hours there has not been based on all the assessments now significant military movements on behalf of the russian army. it appears yet again the ukrainian army is standing up and air force believe it or not is standing up to the advances of the russian military. they came out of crimea. they are doing significant damage in mariupol. they moved on the nuclear plant as of last wednesday, all right, but this town here, this area where they were pushing toward on friday when we were told they were 20 miles away they have not seemed to have made much of an advance. why? can't say. the only conclusion could be, harris, that the ukrainian army is doing a pretty good job of hanging tough. >> harris: i only have seconds with you now. brett, a special ops for the united states formerly was just on with me saying he is in suburbs of kyiv so we will depend on you.
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they are trying to get to poland. what is your best guest and on foot most of them. what is that trek like? >> there is a train, there is a road. you can take a bus or car. you are going through lviv around here where we are reporting for the last couple of weeks. harris, if it's not wartime, i imagine you could do it in less than six hours. but based on what our correspondents are telling us, to go from the polish border in lviv and lviv to kyiv took a day enough. you have checkpoint after checkpoint trying to get there. >> harris: he said that. >> bill: that's the problem. >> harris: he described trigger happy ukrainian soldiers. he was saying that's what they are. they are on such edge you have to be careful at the checkpoints. you have to prove who you are as well. bill hemmer, thank you. great to have you on the mez. the war taking a brutal toll on
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women, children and the elderly especially. let's go to the border in poland. the u.n. reporting 1.7 million have escaped ukraine since putin launched the war. there are too many stories to count that punch your heart. >> we don't know what the city there, what place there, but we have no other choice. like we trust people. they help us. we don't know what the place. we just go and we have hope that people would be kind to us. >> harris: alex hogan live in poland along the ukraine border. alex. >> those emotional stories that we're hearing is just person after person sharing the same trauma they've endured.
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here the crying children right next to me. it is cold out here and they are out of their home and confused. they have had to say goodbye to one of their parents. most of these women left their partners bringing their children with them knowing it would be difficult to break up the family but at least the children would be safe. right now this is what we're seeing. bus after bus arrive and people passing their children up to the officers who are bringing them in. the families with the smallest children typically get put on these buses first. the buses will go all over the country and to other countries in europe for people who know where they can go from here. a lot of people don't know others in other countries. and that's what this warehouse has turned into. a refugee center. we can't bring the cameras inside unfortunately but i can describe what it looks like. it is bed after bed of strangers sleeping next to each other enduring the same pain of what this war and this crisis has done to them in the last 12 days. >> harris: i have been talking
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with people this hour, former u.s. special ops smuggling people into your area because he says as far as he can tell they can't get their on their own. too much artillery fire aimed at civilians. what kind of physical shape are people showing up in as hospitals fill up around the country and people trying to make their way there. >> it is incredibly willing to to see some of the state the people have arrived in. physically we're seeing most people here are all right, although there are medical centers inside for people who have suffered injuries. a lot of people have been traveling for days on end so they are very dirty. it is winter so they are walking through the mud. a lot of them could not make the trains. they tried to push their way in. we see a lot of people with luggage. this is lucky. not everyone is able to bring this much with them. a lot of people had to make the very difficult decision of either getting on a train and
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abandoning the essentials that they brought or bringing nothing at all. >> harris: i was reading some reports of people being wet and in the cold and you just pray they are not suffering with hypothermia and other things. it makes walking very difficult. alex hogan on the border between ukraine and poland to give us firsthand view of what is happening with the humanitarian crisis taking shape. "outnumbered" after the break.
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>> we begin with the fox news alert. an official with the international committee of the red cross is reporting minds have been found along intended evacuation routes for civilians in the ukrainian city of rebeccah. some 200,000 people getting out of the city are now under attack. usually from the sky, i might add. it's hard to run from that. in the city just outside of the capital, civilians were fleeing under thisam
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