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aggravation i can take for one hour. never thought america would, in the middle of a war like this, be importing oil from russia and begging venezuela and iran and opec when we have more than we can produce here at home. it's insanity. anyway, our thoughts and prayers are with the ukraine people. let not your heart be troubled, laura is next. see you tomorrow night. use of the musical [siren] >> laura: i'm laura ingraham, this is "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight as the war in ukraine intensifies, so too does the suffering here in america. so energy prices skyrocketing, experts warning that prices at the grocery store -- have you seen this -- are only going to keep going up and up. wheat has hit an all-time high. that was shocking. and with russia's role as a major supplier of fertilizer,
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everything that grows is going to get more expensive. the administration's reaction to all of this isn't to stop and have at least an honest conversation about the repercussions about all this, but rather to drop perilously close to conflict. yesterday on "face the nation" our secretary of state antony blinken revealed the dangerous path we are now on. >> it for instance the polish government, a nato member, wants to send fighter jets, does that get a green light from the u.s., or you are afraid that will escalate tensions? >> no, that gets a green light. in fact, we are talking with her polish friends right now about what we might be able to do to backfill their needs if, in fact, they choose to provide these fighter jets to the ukrainians. >> laura: now, this comment came as defense secretary lloyd austin ordered the deployment of another 500 american troops to support nato allies bring the total number of u.s. military personnel in europe to 100,000.
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throughout this hour we are going to explore what moves like that would mean and also look at how certain media outlets are priming the proverbial pump comes to greater u.s. involvement. but as we've been doing, we want to get an unvarnished look at how things look on the ground in ukraine. i reported there, trey yingst, has been documenting the carnage happening on the outskirts of kyiv as the sounds of artillery are drawing closer and closer to the capital city. that's where we begin tonight, what can you tell us tonight? >> laura, that's exactly right. the ukrainians tonight say they shot down two russian airplanes. in the distance throughout this night we have heard significant artillery fire and shells landing closer with inside the city limits. this is important because we've seen the destruction across the rest of this country. in the second largest city in ukraine, apartment billings and
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residential areas just totally destroyed by these russian shelves and the air campaign that is moving forward as this invasion continues. these are not military targets. these are civilian areas and they continue to be hit today. you talk about just outside of the ukrainian capital of kyiv, the location that we were at on saturday. we watched as thousands of people fled the area as russian forces tried to work their way closer to the capital. well, on sunday, a russian shell slammed into the pavement, instantly killing four civilians who were just trying to get out of the line of fire. we went back to the city today in the mood was quite tense. mortar rounds coming in around the soldiers, sniper fire in the distance as people tried to get away and there were far fewer people because there's a real fear after seeing those images, the civilians worry it could be there family next and still today we are ukrainian president zelensky doubling down, saying that people have to come together, and he is willing to stay here and fight back
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against the russians. take a listen to what he had to say. >> [speaking non-english language] >> not sure if we have the track there overtop but he's talking about monday at how monday is often a difficult day for people during the week and he is saying that for the ukrainian people, every day is monday now. it will be a difficult week ahead and he is preparing for the worst here in the city. there was a third round of peace talks taking place today between the russians in the ukrainians, but the reality is the russians keep saying they aren't going to hit civilians, they say they will respect the humanitarian corridors, and then they hit them. that's the situation for the civilians on the ground in ukraine, no place is safe and there could be very bloodied urban battles in the days ahead. >> laura: trey, thank you
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tonight. what is putin's and game with ukraine? my next guest has an idea up, turning me now from turkey's peter, senior fellow at the hudson institute. peter, so there's a lot of psychoanalyzing of latimer putting going on in the united states, some of it seems quite ill-informed. you have a view on this, what's the ultimate goal? >> i think vladimir putin is interested in restoring empire essentially, -- in the work that she published an essay, he began with belarus, now he's moved on to ukraine and i suspect this is where his big battle is to try to unite the slavic people, as he sees it, underneath russian rule. >> laura: was this inevitable as things played out? we keep hearing this was inevitable. was it truly inevitable? wasn't there and off-ramp before we arrived at this hideous series of events that are killing innocent women and children?
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>> well, i will say the bite in the administration bent over backwards as they are want to do to try to offer vladimir putin and off-ramp. there was a negotiating document leaked to a spanish newspaper that americans offer to the russians that we would not put offensive weapons into ukraine and he also offered expection summer missile defenses to verify for the russians that those are not offensive, but just defensive systems, so i think the united states has done what it can to meet the russians halfway but they are just basic redlines that we work unprepared to cross and in the end i think looking back in retrospect over the last several months, the coup de grace probably came in december when the president in front of the rolling cameras on the south lawn announced that american ground troops not be heading to ukraine. that may be a sensible policy but why on earth we would let vladimir putin inside is beyond me. he hasn't telegraphed his next most also for us doing that to him i think was a major mistake and a series of mistakes that
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led putin to take this gamble and move into ukraine. >> laura: here's what the pentagon thinks the end game for vladimir putin is. watch. >> we certainly don't have insight into his military plans. we are kind of seeing it unfold just like you are. if he doesn't that ukraine should exist as a sovereign nation state. in fact he doesn't believe it ever existed as a sovereign nation-state and he wants to take them a vassal of russia. >> laura: peter, is that something you agree with, something else deeper going on here? >> i would say this. putin constructed his military operation under faulty political assumptions. he thought that zelenskyy would prove feckless and weakened ukraine people would essentially content themselves with the new russian overlord. it proved not to work, zelenskyy fought back, ukraine people stood up and now he is switching gears to a broader, more deadly military operation and he is surrounding kyiv, surrounding
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other cities, as your correspondent just noted, he may intend to break up, encircle the ukrainian army but how to rule after that i think is a big conundrum because the grainy people shown there like to move into a insurgency phase at that point. he can attempt to negotiate away his military gains once he has achieved them but even there it's hard for me to imagine a ukrainian government in exile agreeing to russian demands like recognition of those independent republics or the annexation of crimea. so we are likely to move to one of two scenarios. either putin leads into this insurgency, ukraine is essentially leveled and russia suffers for years as the west supports a fledgling insurgency, or he loudly proclaim his victory but silently concedes defeat and moves off of his maximalist gains. but for that to take place at think we have some time to go because the ukrainians are feeling rather bullish right now and the russians of course still have it quantitatively, qualitatively superior military and they want to make their military moves before any
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political negotiations. >> laura: good to see you tonight, thank you. putin ukraine has oil now nearing $130 a barrel, they could hit $200 a in a month. the biting solution is more oil production, just not here in the u.s. we previously learned they were looking at boosting oil output in saudi arabia and iran, so world sponsored terrorism. today the bite in the administration considering for some time easing tough oil sanctions on... venezuela. joining me now is former trump interior secretary, former seal team six commander and alaska senator dan sullivan who sits on the congress armed services committee. secretary, good to see her tonight. i guess it's fitting the democrats could turn to socialist totalitarian venezuela for oil. >> it is quite something. the first two years of the trump administration we went from 8.3 million barrels a day and declining in just two years to
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12.5 million barrels a day, the world's largest exporter of energy. and it just wasn't fossil fuels, it was across the board. so you fast-forward, now we have russia and we should immediately ban russian oil. we should immediately approve the keystone, we should immediately approve drilling in the national petroleum reserve in alaska. this is not the and more, if the national petroleum reserve, and accelerate permitting so we can capture our glatt to yes, so we can build terminals and supply our allies with energy. it is that simple. yet this admin is ration -- >> laura: [indiscernible]. >> they are making mistakes at every juncture. it has real consequences and we could put in a deterrent that prevented this from happening, and now real people are suffering the consequence. >> laura: you think it's purposeful or do you think it's a mistake? to me, they are going to be
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happiest when gas is at $10 a gallon. i actually think there's a lot of people in this admin is ration are absolutely fine with gas going that high. >> yeah, but look at what happens when you raise the price of energy. >> laura: but they don't care. you're presuming that care about the suffering of the american people. we know they care about the ukraine and suffering, we are seeing every day. it's horrible. we're looking at this every minute of every day, but do they care about the suffering of the american people? hold that thought because, senator sullivan, you are from obviously representing alaska and all the oil, all the energy that there, but jen psaki was very dismissive of europe's reliance on putin for energy. watch. >> secretary psaki: the reliance on importing -- the import of russian oil is so much more significant in russia -- excuse me, in europe, that while over the course of time it's clear they recognize the need to diversify, their means of getting oil -- >> laura: senator, she is lecturing europe when we've got
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more oil from russia last year than we did from alaska? what? >> yeah, laura, what's happening here is remarkable, but yet it's simple. the administration needs to stop looking for the next brutal dictator to buy oil from, and the answer is simple. that's what ryan just mentioned. we need to produce more american energy by american energy workers. here's the one thing that i think people are really missing. i was home in alaska this week and met with some great energy workers, met with our patriotic ukrainian american community. there's a feeling that people are being insulted, insulted. if they ask me, these groups asked me why on earth what our own federal government try to shut down the production of energy in alaska and now are going around the world hat in hand to dictators to buy more oil from them, whether the
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iranians, whether the saudis, whether venezuela, who by the way are going to use that money to take action -- negative action against americans. it is an insult and its national security suicide to boot, and the american people, certainly in my state, recognizing it. >> laura: insults -- i wouldn't call it a mistake and i wouldn't call them insult -- i love you both, but i think there's much more going on. i think the idea of lowering americans expectations, lowering america's standard of living, that's why they like the lockdowns, because everyone was staying at home, ordering on netflix, whatever they are doing, you know, tending to their herb gardens. that was fine. they didn't travel, the air was clean, although satellite images, that is nirvana for them, when people aren't working and things are -- you're just slowing down. if they love that. they were never happier than during the lockdown but i digress, because the bike demonstration does have a solution to high gas prices, courtesy of our friend
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mayor pete. >> clean transportation can bring significant cost savings for the american people as well. last month we announced a $5 billion investment to build on a nationwide vehicle charging network so the people from rural to suburban to urban communities can all benefit from the gas savings of driving and ev. >> laura: secretary, maybe we should just send ev charging stations over to ukraine and see if that helps them out, because a fairly that's the answer to everything. >> it's amazing what comes out of this administration, but even this crisis, look at the supply chain, because russia also produces palladium. it produces nickel, so what's our answer to our critical minerals? what's our answer to the critical components that run this economy? it is manufactured in here, our energy, but it's also the critical minerals and everything else that runs this economy. what about chips? what happens if china does move on taiwan -- >> laura: with the answer
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here? the answer is we got to pull back our manufacturing to the united states instead of going hat in hand to despotic regimes either for oil, palladium, uranium, all the things that we need on a daily basis. we can't be the hold into these -- we can't even be the hold into ukraine because then they get invaded. >> a good point is america is not week. this administration is weak but america has the energy, it has the innovation, and if we let america run like america can with innovation, with thinking out of the box, we can solve these problems quick. but this administration at every decision point is making a bad one. they will lead us into dependency and dependency on chips and technology. >> laura: that's all going to come back. gentlemen, thank you both, great tonight as always. tonight we have graphic new video of a mortar attack in a small suburb outside of kyiv and in moments you're going to see a ukrainian fighter in the
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forefront of all of it and in the top left, families running away, trying to find somewhere safe to hide. this is despite russian assurances that they don't target civilians. i have to warn you this is going to be hard to watch. >> [speaking non-english language] [bleep]. [bleep]. [bleep]. >> no, no, no. >> [bleep]. >> medic! medic! >> laura: that attack left four dead including a mother, her teenage son, and her daughter, who "the new york times" said appeared to be about eight years old. the man you see on the right is
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a family friend and the times reports he still had a pulse after the attack but was unconscious, severely wounded. he died later on. many ukrainians who are able to get away from the carnage travel west to the city of lviv where fox's lucas tomlinson standing by. is this city, given everything we are seeing, still largely safe for refugees? russia insisted is not targeting civilians. it is clearing a pathway, safe passage, for civilians, but the videotape shows otherwise. >> that's right, laura, tens of thousands of refugees fleeing the violent cities that you just showed continued to come here to lviv, the mayor welcomed them with open arms. we spoke to one woman and one young mother who describes some of that violence. >> very hard to sleep. we go to sleep and then we hear some noise outside, we get up,
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take baby and go to underfloor -- underground. >> the mayor here says 50,000 people have passed through the train station, one day alone late last week a majority continued to poland. over a million today. he said that over 200,000 stay here since the war began in more than 200 orphans also ride through over the weekend by train. they were fleeing in the violence in ukraine's largest nuclear power plant that came under attack a few days ago. it's not just refugees coming here, but weapons too. as you mentioned, wendy sherman warning "it may become harder in the coming days," a hint perhaps that the russians are trying to cut off those shipments including some 17,000 antitank missiles in recent days and thousands of antiaircraft stinger missiles. these weapons seem to be preventing russian forces from taking over the capital in the past 12 days since this invasion began. a new intelligence reports has over 4500 russian soldiers being
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killed since the war began. it's becoming increasingly clear what russia's strategy is, they seem to be targeting airfields to stop nato from sending those -- they also continue showing civilian areas no doubt to get more civilians to leave the country. the u.n. says over 1.7 million to date, and it also appears the sanctions against vladimir putin are not deterring him. ora. >> laura: lucas, thank you. we are going to bring you the latest details of kyiv in moments. but first. self-inflicted pain, biden style. that's the focus of tonight's "angle." you might not have noticed, but the dow jones fell over 797 points today. >> it is now infecting the markets worldwide. all the major averages plummeting today. >> laura: food prices skyrocketing, fuel costs are's urging to the highest level
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since 2008. >> oil prices have skyrocketed to their highest price since 2008. over seven bucks a gallon over the weekend? >> there it is! >> laura: inflation at its highest point since the 1970s. all of this is creating what even "the washington post" admits is a deeply pessimistic nation. but rather than confronting the decline of america under biden and then trying to fix it, the media and even some in the g.o.p. are desperately selling another war. >> in terms of a no-fly zone, we've done it before. we did it in iraq, we did it in bosnia, we did it in libya. >> not ready to confront russia militarily in the skies. how are they going to -- >> they can continue to protect their own skies. >> laura: all of these problems could have been prevented if we had a competent government, but we do not.
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biden should have insisted on a realistic assessment of the situation in ukraine. instead, his team kept open the prospect of nato membership for ukraine, which putin said he was never going to accept. in retrospect, that was likely huge, huge, huge mistake. of course putin didn't attack ukraine under trump because he knew that america was stronger and more practical under his leadership. trump was a pro-energy nationalist who wasn't about to get rolled into supporting russia's natural gas pipeline into europe. and from day one though, the white house, pelosi, schumer, they've worked overtime to turn back every policy of trump's predecessor -- biden right assessor, that works to make america stronger. now americans are made to pay a price for biden's madness. a year ago, who could have imagined $7 a gallon gasoline prices? not even a high.
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after the media seemed relieved to be able to change the subject, they don't like the devastation in ukraine, of course they don't, but they also don't seem bothered at all that americans are hurting in profound ways. think about how miserable -- miserable the white house press corps was in kind of the end of 2019. what was happening then. that's when we had energy independence. that's when we had low inflation. rising wages, even for blue-collar workers. we also had record low unemployment. we had good trade deals and we had no new wars. it didn't matter that investor and consumer confidence was an all-time high for that optimism was robust all the way around. in fact, that annoyed our media so much and some of the other characters i just mentioned, they had to set upon to destroy donald trump. >> donald trump is a russian
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operative. the 101 contacts between trump's team at marshall and operatives. >> russia hacked our election, that was a 9/11 scale event. >> laura: and of course when biden got in, he and his band of saboteurs set a course to radically change america. from the way our children view our founding, to the way we recruit and train our military, to the way we power our cars in the way we look at citizenship even. they spent trillions of dollars, which just drove inflation through the roof, and then they refused to admit that inflation was actually a real thing. and now they're telling you -- now they're telling you it's time for more sacrifice. >> secretary psaki: true that the world needs to be prepared for a very long, difficult road ahead. >> laura: what biden did to america in just over a year is what he's doing to himself politically. he and his party are poised for a historic route in november and
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if he thinks is 10 minutes of discussing the tragedy in ukraine is going to help them, he's just wrong again. people will continue to be killed in ukraine, and it is horrific. but our elite keep pushing a lie that people in ukraine and here somehow protected by the rules-based international order. that is somehow going to fix things, we just have to go back to that -- that is wrong. under trump, they were protected by the usa, but once we became too weak under biden to protect anyone, well, things started to collapse abroad. when china berated antin of lincoln -- member that in alaska -- an then trashed america, that shows what they're trying to do, it was ugly and my prediction is that biden will continue to be humiliated by china. as for those who say talk about china, the dodge -- saw that today -- it's the only way to realistically assess what's happening in ukraine because china is a major check on our
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ability to affect the situation. every bad thing that is happening is only happening now because our elites at some point in time thought it was okay to make china the most powerful country in the world. so now here we are, it's back to the 1970s, the u.s. is weakened under biden, we are he really added by a smaller power like russia, we are divided at home, we are burdened with horrific inflation and economic problems. it's all self-inflicted. by a white house and a political establishment that has failed the people who pay the bills, and they've done it far too many times. what the left will not admit yet is that ukraine shows us in graphic, gory, tragic detail how globalization ultimately fails because the elites thought that somehow we could curtail evil with the international norms, the new global order, the global reset, whatever you want to call
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it. that wasn't just idealistic, it was dangerous, and it was stupid. the only thing that has kept bad actors in check was in america that was economically strong and culturally cohesive. when we lose not just one but both of those things, we are not going to just see suffering abroad, we are going to indoor plenty of our own here. the only good news is that elections are now less than eight months away. and that's "the angle." joining me now as mollie hemingway, fox news contributor, editor in chief of "the federalist" and dinesh d'souza, conservative commentator, most of the dinesh d'souza podcast. mollie, let's start with you, what you make of the media that was so willing to believe the soviet union during the cold war that the media now seems to be edging us closer to war with russia? >> it has been something to watch what they have done in the last few weeks where they are clearly trying to push an escalation into conflict that involves our country as well. it's kind of what they do with
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all sorts of situations, the amp up a story, they hyped something, they flood the zone with one-sided media coverage. it's what they did with covid, what they did with the impeachments, what they did with the russia hoax and now what they are doing here with the situation as well. and it is something to behold, but, you know, it's clear that they are not thinking seriously or soberly about the ramifications, because we are not just talking about a conflict of any other kind. we are talking about a conflict with a nuclear superpower. the time for people to be adults and sober and thinking through the second and third order effects of everything we do is now. >> laura: but now, dinesh, two mollie's point, from the atlantic -- as they say, therefore democracy. their answer to promoting democracy is oh, let's smear fellow americans who disagree with them on ukraine. watch. >> there are a group of right-wing republicans who really think of putin as this kind of white christian savior
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of civilization with whom we could make some sort of -- we could link arms and make some sort of common defense against the islamic world and against the encroachment of, you know, the fling civilization. >> laura: dinesh, what a vile person, first of all. i have no idea what he's talking about, but again, they will tolerate no questioning, just write the billions and billions of dollars of taxpayer money to go wherever, to do whatever, and we are just supposed to say oh, great. what is this? >> i think the real problem that these people are all ducking is the fact that the old rhetoric inherited from the old cold war era no longer works anymore. if you and i are a product of the 1980s in which we spoke very confidently of the free world and the one side and of the totalitarian world on the other. but now if you look at a lot of
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the features of authoritarian society, censorship, mass surveillance, going after political opponents, the idea of a one-party state, the kind of corrupt gangster regime in charge, you realize all those elements are present in our own country, and so suddenly it's a very different way of thinking about these conflicts. it's not about the fact that anybody is championing putin. no, it's simply about we are asking what are we supposed to be defending one many of the things we deplored abroad are deployed by the biden demonstration at home? >> laura: i want you both to hear this, but have to play a big focus of cnn earlier tonight first. >> war coverage remains blacked out in russia after putin signed a lot of criminalizing news reporting on his invasion, not even allowing to call it a war. tv networks going black and basically a blackout in terms of information from russia and so anyways. ukrainians family in russia say they have no idea what is going
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on. >> laura: mollie, they don't see the irony. this is after they said -- basically blacklisting all the stockers, a lot of stuff they were saying actually has been borne out by research and actual practice of medicine, that's just to name a few things that they've censored. >> the founders talked eloquently for the need for a free press to hold people accountable. it's one of the dangers we have in our country right now, we have such a propaganda press and they link arms with powerful party officials to censor viewpoints that they don't like about a whole range of topics have done a lot to -- obviously people don't trust a lot of the corporate media because of their behavior in recent years and it makes it very fraught when you're dealing with lumen potentials for world war iii. >> laura: dinesh, we have the president -- former president of the united states donald trump still not on twitter but isn't putin still on twitter? i think he is, right? so we have these tech companies here in -- >> [indiscernible] -- >> laura: right? >> absolutely. it's one thing, governments do
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tend to put out propaganda during wartime and that's not entirely surprising. in fact it's coming not just out of the russian side, it's also coming out of the ukrainian side. "new york times" recently read an article sickly almost admiringly noting that fact and mythmaking are kind of joining hands in the ukraine narrative, and it's all most like the times was admiring the way in which all kinds of lives are being put out by the ukrainian government and being transmitted by intelligence officials in this country and then promulgated by the media. if that's the case, how are we any different on this side of the aisle from with the russians are doing on the other side? >> laura: and the issue of censorship i think -- we have a lot of work to do, meaning roll it back, people, let there be a free exchange of ideas. good to see you. while him wally, good to see when the studio. live report from the front lines in ukraine. his mitch mcconnell worried? worried about what? a man is about to join me might have an answer to that.
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>> laura: russian forces continuing their assault on ukraine's capital city and fox's trey yingst's live in kyiv with the latest. >> laura, good evening. today there were questions announced, new evacuation routes announced ukrainians say those corridors lead to russia and belarus. today we were on the front lines of this conflict as we saw civilians caught in the cross fire. >> there's a large group of civilians now fleeing the city, they are holding a white flag to let the russians know they are not a threat and they are simply trying to get out of the city. >> feels like your life is broken forever and you have no hope. >> walking for miles, she tells us she tried to shield the eyes of her young daughter as they
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passed by us in the war-torn streets. >> i will tell the world it's a disaster and there are many in our town, many died, people just like on the street. >> in the distance, ukrainian soldiers crouched down worried about russian snipers and shelling. they tell fleeing civilians to hurry and stay low. >> the evacuation for these people has become much more difficult of the russians fire mortar shells at this position. >> any conflict over there, they destroyed everything. >> yesterday for people were killed as they left this suburb of kyiv. residents say russian troops pushed forward overnight and drove tanks through the streets. >> they told us to go because there is a war and when we start to go, -- >> russia says they are targeting civilian areas though today the sounds of war pierced the air.
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>> the russians are engaging in a massive disinformation campaign. they say they aren't targeting civilians. you just saw their evidence that they are. laura. >> laura: this is absolute heartbreaking, thank you. is senate minority leader mitch mcconnell worried about his top spot on the g.o.p. totem pole? we move now to domestic politics. that would expand his visceral reaction to an 11-point governing plan put forward by florida senator rick scott. should the g.o.p. retake congress this fall, scott's plan is unabashedly populist, which is why mcconnell is using one point in the plan discredit the rest of it. >> let me tell you what would not be part of our agenda. we will not have as part of our agenda a bill that raises taxes on half the american people and sunsets social security and medicare within five years.
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>> laura: joining me now is florida senator rick scott, chair of the national republican senatorial committee. they pulled your 11-point plan and found that ten points pulled early well among the republicans. your reaction. >> first off, here's a copy of it. >> laura: you brought a prop. >> 11 steps, 120 a policy point. >> laura: only going to a few, we don't have time for a hundred. >> it simple. we are going to have a plan. when we win we ought to have a plan. let's talk about the taxes for a second. i think i will take my record against anybody, i cut taxes and fees a hundred times when i was governor. i'm not raising anybody's taxes. but here's what's not fair. they have hardworking americans paying all these taxes and retirees, we've got billionaires not paying it with the people that want free government stuff they don't want to have any skin in the game. that's not fair. >> laura: if people pay like it in a hundred dollars in taxes -- >> $10. >> laura: at least you know that's what it is playing taxes and you don't want people to get bankrupt obviously.
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but what is going on here with mitch mcconnell? he's obvious we been in power for -- i don't even know how long, decades and decades, since i was in college he's been around. when he's been incredibly successful in many ways. beasley a lot of great judicial appointments, kept merrick garland, a radical, off the supreme court. he's wily, he's very, very smart, but he's not a populist, he's an old style bush on issues from globalization, trade with china, he's not pushing to keep those terrorists on china most likely, is that the case? >> i think there's a difference of opinion. some people don't want to have a pan, i'm a business guy. >> laura: why does he not want to plan? people are going to ask about .3, four, and five. this is what people hit washington. you know why. just like -- >> i want to be held accountable. >> laura: your fine of holding this up to the voters. >> oh, yeah. i tell people when i ran as
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governor i had a seven step plan for 700,000 jobs, we had 1.7 million. why? we follow the plan. we are going to win the majority -- these other things were going to get done. >> laura: which is going to sit there and do predicate >> i'm not. >> laura: nancy pelosi had all of her bills ready to go. when she took power she knew which was going to do, rollback trump, go for clean energy. they didn't get everything but they did something and she knew what she wanted to do. >> we have to have a plan, we have to work a plan, that's what i've done all my life. i'm a business guy and what i was governor had the same thing, every year i had a plan for my session. >> laura: it's pragmatic. have to ask about this new omnibus budgeting that we are doing for the rest of this year. this is insane, but the white house -- there are a lot of republicans, a lot of your colleagues are likely to sign onto a bill that is not each department defense and interior -- >> we don't know -- >> laura: you don't know it's going to be integrated
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>> it has to pass by friday. it's going to be a lot of pages. it's going to spend, you know, a lot of money. it's an entire year's budget and i have not seen any of it. >> laura: how much money are we talk about? >> gosh, it's got to be -- in total -- i mean, the budget is going to be over $4 trillion, probably $5 trillion. with already continue resolution for six or seven months. >> laura: this is just the most ridiculous -- >> every buddy wants to help ukraine. what is it? >> laura: what is the money going to ukraine? who's getting it, what is it going to bonnet? >> covid money. they have supposedly $500 billion still sitting in treasury. we are going to have another suddenly $20 billion. >> laura: does that make us stronger or weaker? >> weaker, weaker, weaker. you want to be independent, right? so you don't get independent by having $30 trillion worth of debt by having a deficit every year, you get stronger by watching your money, holding people accountable.
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>> laura: i have lost track of -- this is what people hit washington. this is why people hate business people coming to washington. >> balance the budget, watch your money. why are you spending money, and have a purpose for it. >> laura: are you going to run for senate majority leader? >> it got to win the majority of the senate this year. >> laura: okay, the answer is yes. i'm just teasing you. i've gotten so much trouble, and we do respect mitch mcconnell coming is a very smart man, there's a difference of opinion. hollywood exposes its own hypocrisy on authoritarian dictators, "seen and unseen" in studio, raymond arroyo next.
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♪ ♪ >> laura: now for the "seen and unseen" side of the ukraine story and the crucial element that our government and media are missing. we are joined by fox news contributor raymond arroyo. all right, raymond, let's start with the protests of businesses and celebs. >> first of all it is so great being back on set but they are kicking into high gear. these of the hosts of the independent film spirit award ceremony last night in l.a. watch. >> i think we speak for everyone here when we say we are hoping for a quick and peaceful resolution.
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specifically [bleep] off and go home, putin. >> that's right. [applause] yes. that is the quick and peaceful resolution we are talking about that vladimir putin [bleep] off and goes home, and to that end, let's all join together and sent him off with a spirit award salute, to putin. [laughter] >> as cathartic as that might be to curse out this murderous thug and flipped him off, why only this one, laura? look, i'm glad they're calling out putin but if they were appalled at the human toll in ukraine, look a little further to the east to china the situation has been moving fast and furiously downhill and they haven't said a word. then there's the feverish reporting that netflix is suspending service in russia as a protest -- the truth is they had to. the credit card companies that collect their
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subscription-based, they'd already pulled out of the country and they have probably 100,000 to a million customers, so i doubt that the russians care, they are not like the kids in omaha sitting in their basement watching this. >> laura: this kind of is like the international judo federation, which removed putin's honorary titles. >> that accomplishes a lot, laura. the u.s. has yet to sanction russian oil, but he's lost judo, netflix, and will and grace. way to put the pain on putin. these independent filmmakers that netflix would do well to draw the world's attention to the fact that the u.s. president apparently believes russia is invading russia itself. >> president biden: how do we get to the place where, you know, putin decides he's going to just invade russia, nothing like this has happened since world war ii. >> [laughs] you can't make this out. >> laura: missing much more than this. there is an important part of the story that has been totally lost.
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it's partially religiously motivated? >> we always miss the religious currents before these stories. we missed it in iraq, we missed it in afghanistan, we are missing it here. i'm going to take it back to the vision of putin on the patriarch carrillo of moscow. they share one mind that anyone who is -- not ordained -- baptized in the russian orthodox church is de facto a russian citizen in the land they stand on is sacred russian soil. all of ukraine was under the moscow patriarch until 2019 when an ecumenical patriarch said you can be free of him. they created ukrainian churches, 700 parishes, guess what our state a permitted? they thanked and congratulated the ukrainian church from splitting off, for basically engaging in schism in the mind of the russians. putin, they now have a religious imperative because they feel they have to save russian orthodoxy from the encroachment of the west, and that's what
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they see happening in ukraine, a decadent west moving in on what they consider -- >> laura: wait a second, you're trying to get in the minds -- >> are not in their minds, putin said -- >> laura: nobody likes to talk about this because it's -- it's -- it's -- it's not even ockham plus. >> you know i did want to talk about it? because they dismiss religion as superstitions in the west. that's what putin is capitalizing on. but i want to take you back to something. remember before he launched this invasion into ukraine, putin said we are doing this as a defense of orthodoxy, to protect orthodoxy in ukraine. it's a fake justification, using religion to go in, but it's the mind-set. john paul ii, the man who brought down communism with nothing but faith, prayer, and truth, he said something i've been thinking about in recent days. he said i would -- in a world without truth, freedom loses foundation and man is exposed to the violence of passion and
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manipulation. that's what we are seeing here and if the west -- if america and europe doesn't recapture that truth and its own faith, it will be powerless to fight this evil distortion of faith coming from putin on the russian patriarchy. the world's religions have to get involved. >> laura: where's pope francis? >> he's being very delicate, he wants to maintains relations, we will see how that pans out. >> laura: bring the churches together. that's an aspiration. it is so good to have you in the studio, nice work on mardi gras. joe biden flashback on nato you need to hear to believe, that's what they tell me. the last bite explains.
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nato-russian, u.s.-russian relations. and if there was ever anything that was going to tip the balance were it to be tipped in terms of a vigorous and hostile reaction, i don't mean military in russia, it would be that. >> impressive logic. he can talk. shannon bream takes it from here. >> the extended coverage. shannon bream in washington. >> and i'm benjamin hall in kyiv, ukraine as putin's forces try to take over the capital city. >> the 13th day of war with russia. ukraine's top
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