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♪ ♪ >> harris: president biden has just announced a ban on russian oil imports. and now, we are more. >> just as russia ramped up attacks on civilians in ukraine, president biden is now going after pollutants oil imports come after a source tells fox
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that he has stalled a bipartisan bill on this last week. but here's what he is saying now. watch. >> the united states is targeting the main artery of russia's economy. we are banning all imports of russian oil and gas and energy. that means russian oil will no longer be acceptable in u.s. ports and the american people will do another powerful blow to pollutants war machine. >> emily: white house correspondent jacqui heinrich's life is more. jackie, what you have first? >> haider, emily. while this announcement comes from the president after bipartisan efforts in congress after trying to force the issue, the public opinion is behind a ban on russian oil imports. even if it means higher gas prices for americans. congress was ready to move to him by the white house apparently was not. a source tells me that president personally intervened to stop bipartisan bill from being introduced, he did not appear like he was being boxed in by congress and was able to make that announcement himself from the white house which is what we just heard a little while ago. this all began on sunday night
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am told when democrats announce a bipartisan bill they were introduced into ban all russian energy imports and remove russia from permanent normalized trade relations, meaning that they would lose most favored nation status on. the white house asked that committee to step down. they've been told that press release, yesterday the committee wanted to move forward so the white house i'm told, called speaker pelosi to stop that bill from reaching the floor. she would not stand in the way, the president himself called pelosi around 9:00 last night. that effort still went no worse the white house then moved targets via chuck schumer to fall apart on the senate side to the white house could lead the effort and not have this come from congress. between 9:00 last night and 10.5 this morning, there's been a significant amount of movement behind the scenes. it is notable that the u.s. moving forward, without the europeans. it is a departure from how the white house has previously moved on issues targeting russia. they have drawn criticism for that. the question is how to maintain
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the supply and keep prices skyrocketing. >> it is simply not true that my administration or policies are holding back domestic energy production. it is simply not true. in the united states, 90% of onshore oil production takes place on land that is not owned by the federal government. all the remaining 10%, that occurs on federal land, the oil and gas industry has millions of acres leased. they have 9,000 permits to drill now. they could be drilling right now. >> emily: oil industry had say that the administrations unfriending us toward fossil fuels has discouraged investment i am told separately that pelosi said they will be voting on that bill, the bipartisan bill, regardless of its effort from the white house. emily. >> emily: thank you, jackie. >> harris: the world is turned to racking. let's see if ukrainian president, president zelensky was now addressing ukraine and parliament will say anything about the recent development's
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on their own president with russian oil. let's watch together. >> therefore our contact. we have been fighting air strikes. military servicemen have been trying to fight. russian forces demand that we raid our own arms. however, we did continue fighting and we did feel are force. the force of our people that opposed the occupants until the end. the next day, the artillery started fighting us.
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our army showed us who we are. we have been able to see who are people. on day four, we started getting people captive. we have not been torturing them. we remained humane. even on day four of this terrible war. on day five, terror against us was going on against children, against cities. constant showings have been taking place. around the country, including hospitals, and that did not break us. that gave us a feeling of victory. on day six, the russian rockets
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fell on the place where the killed thousands of people during the second world war. eight years after, the russians hit them for the second time. even churches are getting destroyed by shelling. on day eight, we have seen russian tanks sitting, at the atomic power station. everybody got to understand that this goes against everyone. on day nine, there was a meeting of the nato congress. without the result we were looking for. yes, we did feel that.
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we did feel that unfortunately that the alliances do not work properly always and the no fly zone cannot be enforced. on day ten, the ukrainians started protesting. stopping the armored vehicles with their own hands. on day 11, the children and cities were being hit in hospitals as well with the rockets and constant showing. and on that day, we realize that ukrainians became heroes. the entire cities, children, adults. and on day 12, the losses of the russian army exceeded 10,000 people killed. and also, including the general.
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that gave us hope that there will be some kind of responsibility for those people. in front of the court. on day 13, and the city of mariupol that was attacked by the russian forces, a child was killed. they do not allow any food, any water. people started panicking. i think everybody can hear that people do not have water or they are over 13 days of this situation. over 50 children have been killed. these are the children that could have lived.
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but these people have taken them away from us. ukraine, we are not looking to have this fall. ukraine has not been looking to become a big part, they have become big t days. of this war. where the country that are saving people despite having to fight one of the biggest armies in the world. we have to fight the helicopters, rockets. the question for us now is to be or not to be. for the ten days, this question could have been asked, but now i can get your definitive answer. it is definitely yes, to be.
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i would like to remind you, the world that the united kingdom have already heard which are important again. we will not give up. we will not lose. we will fight until the end and the sea, and the air, we'll continue fighting for our land. whatever the cost. we will fight in the forests, in the fields, on the shores, in the streets. i would like to add that we will fight on the banks of different rivers. we are looking for your help, for the help of the civilized countries. we are thankful for this help.
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and i am very grateful to you, boris. please, increase the pressure of sanctions against these country. please recognize this country as a terrorist state. and please, make sure that all ukrainian skies are safe. please make sure that you do what needs to be done and what is stipulated by the greatness of your country. best of all to ukraine and to the united kingdom. [applause]
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>> harris: you have ukrainian president zelensky addressing the ukrainian apartment with a standing ovation right now so much of what he said, kaylee, we have heard in recent days. they need help, they need ammo, what were your first impressions? >> kayleigh: my first impression, we just cut away there. that was about 30 seconds of standing ovation. who knows how long that goes on. this is what we are seen repeatedly among western nations, any time the lenski speaks. when he spoke before the e.u. i believe he got a minute and 12 standing ovation. the reports from inside that room, his intervention will be part of history said the official who was in the room. it was very emotional, leaders were very affected in the silence in the room was impressive and the impact was clear. the official attributed germany, hungary, and other european countries changing their posture to support ukraine, more to the compelling speech by zelinski. i think we just saw another example of that.
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he spoke to u.s. lawmakers. there he was in the parliament. this man, is the reason that we have had a 13 day war and not a three day war. this man is the strength and bravery of its citizens. >> harris: you know, i will ask the team if the standing o is still happening, we can always do a side-by-side panel. i think that we have lost that. emily, as he speaks, two things have changed about today. one, his list is gotten longer of the things he needs. because they are running out of ammo. they are using a lot of it. that is an incredible show bravery in my to push back, now an estimated up to 200,000 russian forces. the entire 100% that were massed on the border of belarus, and output nets but inside that country of ukraine. the other thing, he is no longer a moving sort of leader. he is working in his office. he is in one place. that might make some people fearful that my goodness, we note that's forces want to go
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after him. but it is a sign of strength to say, i'm back in my house i'm here i'm ready to lead. i'm not running. i'm not going to cut and run. >> emily: it really is. i think the optics of that are so powerful. this is a true leader. a nonwartime leader. we talked about that often time, that litmus test of a presidency, the leader, involved in unforeseen events. this, for someone who came from the entertainment industry. who came from comedy and who has absolutely risen to the occasion and became a figure, frankly to be admired and has impressed really the whole nation. he is sane, i will not move. i will not take one step for my job of leading and protecting ukraine, this country. i sort of contrast that with our commander in chief, which what we learned a few moments oh, as we discussed before zelensky started speaking, it was because of optics that he did not pursue that bipartisan bill that he purposely let it stall in congress for fear of feeling
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that the american people see that he was capitulating that he was somehow beholden to congress. in stark contrast to pelosi. that i find so horrifying. that in contrast to the will of the american people, to america's best interest, he waited because of some type of vanity intertwined with this swamp. quick last point about the fact that zelensky thanked the prime minister boris johnson, obviously there was u.k. parliament. just reminder that boris johnson is to restrict russian oil as well. but not natural gas. those restrictions will be faced in the coming months. it's an interesting play because europe is entirely dependent at this moment. it will take them a few years. the e.u. directors claimed her commitment to have them pull away but that will take years, that is not overnight. >> harris: they are much more multilayered in terms of their dependence on russian energy. they have to keep it up though. i mean, when this comes to whatever end it comes to, and it
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is so tragic along the way we cannot even imagine what will happen next. but all things come to an end. they cannot back away and say, oh, well, it's over now and then go back to old ways. this to me, feels like we are shaping a new road and have to be willing to walk the entire road, not just the part that is temporary. >> kayleigh: well said. trey yanks is with with us alive. try, >> ukrainian president zelensky they're carrying a face and bravery amid a backdrop of death and destruction. we saw president zelensky last week in a small meeting. i asked them about the situation and he was asked how he was feeling. how he was preparing for what experts believe is going to be an extremely bloodied battle to defend not only the city of kyiv, let this entire country. he really reiterated there, to the british, that this is a situation so dire, the help needs to come immediately. a needed to be here last week. the ukrainians are using all of
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the defensive weapons that they have. they are launching counteroffensive's in the areas that they can. but they can only hold the line for so long for the equipment that they have in the country. they have to controllable the ground and the air. so far, the ukrainian air force has been able to maintain a presence. they can still take after they get a number of fixed wing aircraft that are hitting many of these sitting duck positions of russian convoys and forces trying to make their way towards this capital city. but the russians are responding quite heavily. remember, they're the ones who launch this invasion. today, they are targeting civilian areas. they are trying to really burn these out of cities as they work their way towards the capital. in sumy, an area in the northeastern part of ukraine, overnight over 29 civilians were killed and russian air strikes. there are people still buried under the rubble today, according to local officials. there were two cochildren killed in the strikes. it is not just in sumy, kharkiv, the second largest city. mariupol, just outside of the
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capital. we brought to these images this weekend here we were watching with our own eyes and cameras, capturing the images, is innocent civilians made their way across a bridge that had bombed out just before the advance of russian forces. the russian troops were firing mortars at the civilians. unarmed people. they had snipers lined up in the distance to try to keep the ukrainian troops from assisting the civilians. this is the reality. and the situation on the ground in ukraine. when you see ukrainian president zelensky they're appealing not only to the british, but to the entire world for help, he is saying it because it is needed. it is necessary. if the aid it does not fill in the country in the form of antitank missiles, antiaircraft batteries, and ammunition, this country could fall much more quickly. back to you. >> emily: yeah, trey pugh those images are so hard to watch. he pointed out in sumy, that was on a residential building. of course, russian propaganda saying that they are not targeting the innocent. they very clearly are. can you dispel that notion that
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you hear from russia? >> yes, the russians have launched a massive disinformation campaign about this war say that they are not targeting civilians. the reality is that we've seen them target's feelings. we seen them try to kill civilians as they flee residential areas. there are credible reports from the red cross, from the southern part of ukraine, outside of mariupol where the russians have agreed to a temporary cease fire and lay landmines on the road out of the city. there are reports of different areas being shelled around hospitals and schools. i think the words of the cia director today, for congress, william burns really strike at the core of what's happening right now. vladimir putin thought that he was going to be able to come into the ukraine and take this capital city in two days. it's been nearly two weeks. it was such a fierce ukrainian resistance that the russians are simply did not expect when they made their way into this country, that the battle is far bloodier than the russians are taking serious losses. anywhere from two to 4,000 troops according to u.s. officials today. those numbers will get higher as the ukrainians dig their heels
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in and fight back. >> emily: tray, as you speak we are watching these images that are absolutely heart-wrenching of children and mothers and soldiers and the like. these are ukrainians that we are watching that are suffering. we are here and reports hand-to-hand combat that ukrainians are engaged in in and around kyiv. what can you tell us about that? >> ukrainians are using every thing they can to push back this russian offensive. we have seen such a mobilization, not only of troops, but also civilians. the city right now, there is martial law underway peer there's a curfew every night. when we make our way into the streets of kyiv, you see every single checkpoint, there are soldiers and civilians arms. the way that you can tell that they are ukrainians, is that they've got a piece of yellow tape wrapped around their arm. that signifies that they are ukrainian, they are on the side of this country and they are prepared to fight. but again, it's not just soldiers. also civilians. those who do not have weapons,
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they have molotov cocktails off to the side, preparing to throw them at russian tanks and trust trucks that drive by if they make their way into the city. they're pushing having they can into the streets of his capital city, every thing from sandbags to pianos to concrete barriers to dump trucks. in the streets of the city, to slow the russian advance. as you make your way further and further out of the city, get a real sense of where the ukrainians are locating their military personal peer they are digging in and preparing for what could be a very extensive day of bloody urban battle. they have one advantage on their side. they have a city. when you look at this battle, what will likely take place according to u.s. officials in the coming days, one russian troops try to enter kyiv, they will be met with this fierce resistance. they are not going have the flexibility and mobility with tanks and artillery units that the ukrainians are because they are set up and prepared and they are ready to fight. you heard it there from their leader, ukrainian president zelensky that they will get the support of any from the international community to
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continue this battle as long as it takes. >> harris: so trey, it's harris, it is interesting to hear you talk about what now could look like urban warfare. there are advantages for the ukrainians, because they simply know the landscape better. i interviewed a woman last hour, natosha. she has had to leave kyiv, which she is doing as she is crowdfunding. they are ordering walkie-talkies a night vision goggles. that sort of thing that will help in an urban warfare and getting it to the city of kyiv right now. there are still some ways to get things in. which is really remarkable. but when you hear of syrian rebels who know how to do this well, and potent tasking that part of his physical arsenal. and we hear about those chechen terrorists coming as well, those are people that we know fight those urban battles in a very different way. >> absolutely.
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it really raises a major concern for ukrainian officials when you see these reports of chechens and syrian fighters being recruited to come to ukraine on behalf of the russians. russian president vladimir potent has already displayed through his actions on the ground here in ukraine, that he has no regard for human life. he is killing women, children, bombing hospitals and schools. when you have these rebel fighters that he is trying to recruit, according to reports right now to come fight in ukraine, it changes the dynamic. it makes an already difficult and bloody situation even more dangerous. so these reports are extremely concerning to officials here and they have to be taken very seriously. because, as president putin is installed on the outside of the city with his forces, and you see these long convoys, nearly 40 miles long according the satellite images. stuck outside the cities. understand that the russian playbook calls for heavy bombardment of civilian areas. we have seen the russian student syria. they had civilian areas, they killed as many people as
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possible. trying to push the civilians out and then move their fighters in. there is every indication on the ground that that is a plan here. we have seen it in the south in mariupol, we start to see them do it in kharkiv, second largest city. u.s. officials believe that the capital, kyiv is next. >> kayleigh: thank you, trey. stay safe out there. now, the youngest victims of the war. we warn you, this image is graphic. it shows a blood-soaked child, wounded in the russian air strike on his apartment building. an even more heartbreaking picture shows a 9-year-old boy laying dead. gosh. so hard to look at. his name was ned deke and he wants to sleep in sumy yesterday and he did not wake up. julian, it is so incredibly difficult to look at those images. another young girl named tonya. she was in mariupol. they said her name is tonya. this is how the mayor describe what happened there. in the last minutes of her life, she was alone, exhausted, frightened and terribly thirsty.
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just one of the stories of mariupol that is been observed, surviving a blockade for eight days. she died of dehydration. >> gillian: . you know, kaylee, one sort of fragment of hope and all of this, is that it now appears that biden administration officials, like tony blinken are joining the course of world leaders who are accusing putin of potentially committing war crimes. tony blinken said, yesterday that he is looking at two things. laser ring in on them now, one of them trey just laid out. that is russian military's targeting of ukrainian civilians paired the other thing, is the russians use of these weapons like vacuum bombs that are created and designed to inflict as many casualties as possible. they are joining countries not like the u.k. where boris johnson leveled accusations of war crimes against humanity last week, the international court of justice at the hague, there's a trial on going out. and an investigation.
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the ukrainians are hoping to have the judge there, formally charge putin's with crimes against humanity. they've gotten very specific. they are basing their case around events that took place on february 24th. these may sound like talking points and a new cycle. they are absolutely not appear this is how you get action taken. against autocrats like putin. this is how the united states talks about how it is so difficult to sanction putin specifically. this is how you inflict pain on putin directly. when he can no longer travel anywhere in the world. when he is on every countries wanted list. he is banned from flights around the world. he is banned from using banks or international finance anywhere in the world. these are all very hopeful steps. i hope that the president biden himself will take up that mental soon and formally weigh in on this and accuse putin of committing more crimes. there is more than ample evidence, as trey and all of our report is on they have really laid out.
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>> harris: julian so beautifully laid that out. the pressure that will be put on putin. it is really important to understand something that jack keane, four's are retired general who was on her team at fox was talking about me yesterday. that is this notion, he's not going to be put on trial. he's immune. you can go after his generals that would julian said is so spot on. you can make it feel like he's in prison. wright, jillian? you can make it feel very difficult to walk the planet if you are labeled a war criminal. even though you may have, because of your leadership, that of a general expended. he said look, he's a dictator he's all of those things. but if the general he can go the icc criminal court. >> emily: we need putin philip pain as well. cover you, charlie, i would like from president biden where he says what zelensky has had in no certain terms that these are war crimes. call russian a terrorist state,
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which is what zelinski is asking for. to put it clearly, as to how the ukrainian government is describing what happened, speaking of that air strike in sumy that killed 21 including two children. ukrainian government said that last night russian pilots committed another crime against humanity and in sumy. they dropped 500-kilogram bombs on residential buildings. that is pretty clear-cut. >> charlie: yeah. it really is. it has become more clear every day. to step back two weeks ago, it is sort of the oldest rule of war. the first casualty of any war is the truth. obviously propaganda is a very important tool on either side in a war. it is important to remember, before vladimir putin invaded ukraine and this all started, he said he would be greeted as a liberator. one thing that is abundantly clear two weeks in, is that his troops have not been greeted as liberators. this is not with the claimant
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wasn't. he has been lined from the beginning of this. that is a very important thing to sort of, stopping point for us to remember as we try to sort out what's true and what's false in all of this. obviously, the images are absolutely heart-wrenching. it is also important, as a government that we make decisions very carefully with great wisdom at every point along the way. i would argue that the biden administration has already made a great deal of decisions going back to the very beginning of the administration, that has led to so many of the factors that made this invasion possible in the first place. which is terrifying. we should be taken account of that. we should be holding our leaders accountable for every single one of those decisions. and going forward, we have to make sure that our government makes every single decision
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here, not based on emotion, but based on what is in the best interest of the united states and what's in the best interest of humanity. not making decisions that are politically expedient at the moment, but then wind up being very, very damaging down the road. >> kayleigh: that's exactly right. you point out that they are not being treated as liberators, the russians when they arrive. ukraine underscore that point. they have not made other territorial gains. lucas tomlinson lucas tomlinson further underscore and are pointing at least 20 russian aircraft have been shot down in ukraine. both jets and attack helicopters. experts tell bbc that's likely the most shot down since the falklands war in 1982. indeed, they are experiencing resistance. emily, coming to you. international law, we talked about this on the couch. it does not have an enforcement mechanism. we want to hold him accountable. we want to see action taken against him his generals. how likely is that, given the
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strength of international laws? >> emily: is interesting. when you say we i think you're talking about us he appeared normal, average americans. i don't see that same resolve was stated commitment from our administration. i don't think our lawmakers did either. which is why they were busy drafting a bill while the administration was acting. it took 14 days for president to now ban imports. when we talk about the icc, first of all we are not a party to them. nor is russian or is ukraine. to me, that's a long term accountability strategy that is sort of, it has a black-and-white effect. it looks good on paper. to harris' point, it can absolutely have a micro impact for sure on putin himself. but i think, what we are seen as humans and all of us were watching with horror, is ukraine is being devastated and the tiny children are being murdered every day, is what can we do now to stop this. rather than hold someone accountable on paper, x months
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or years in advance for some atrocity that we are witnessing unfold in real time right now, what more can the united states and the u.k. and the e.u. in our globe do to stop this now. to protect those ukrainian people who we are watching implore us for help, the other leader zelensky right now. i can only speak for myself of course. but i feel helpless and in horror and shock that there is not some type of short-term decision, short-term action that can be taken in addition to ramping up our own oil production, obviously. something that can help protect these people. we are watching as they lose their lives by the minute. >> harris: i miss my war dead. he would take about a hand hand and he would say, we can't do it we know that we can. we cannot start shooting down russian planes. we cannot going there and rescue these people right now because this is a crazy man who has already put nuclear on the
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table. we took everything off the table and he just kept putting stuff on. he had a nuclear plant. by the grace of god, go we as a planet, they just wanted to take it, not destroyed. we did not know that that night. we stayed up. all of us. with our eyes glued to the screen to see what was next. but my war dad would tell me, you have to do everything you cannot to destroy the rest of everything else going after this person. and he will remind me, how late we waited, world war ii, far too late. if there was a tipping point, we have to be ready to get in. >> emily: i think it's an administration articulated that they did not want to originally ban those imports for fear spike in energy prices at home. i do not hear an articulation. >> harris: is that true the? >> emily: that's my point. i did not hear an articulation that said actually because we aware of the safety of american people, i do not hear something that persuaded me that their
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interests acknowledged to see. the diplomacy. >> harris: you didn't see strategy. >> emily: strategy. all of the above. exactly. >> harris: that's what generals and war dad like mine, they have a strategy. they are not saying that there will not be a point eventually. we got into vietnam, we can argue about that. we got into a lot of things. there is always a point, but it has to be on your terms. if you can make it your terms. i'm with you. i cry every day. i pray every day. there are a lot of places on a glow that do not have as many cameras as this one, where is breaking loose. we try to go to some of those places. all right. we will move on. let's let charlie make his point. go ahead. >> charlie: just answering that very important question. emily raises about what we can do right now. do not shortchange the idea of
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grilling. it is a great thing about grilling in the united states, it will lower the price of oil, which hinders putin's ability to spend money on this stuff. that is a vitally important thing. >> harris: yep. so true. president biden at the white house just a short time ago said, the united states will share in the responsibilities of welcoming. you and officials are reported in 2 million people now have left the country. trying to get away from putin's army. half of them, 50%, our children. most of those refugees have entered poland, where a picture of empty strollers lines up in a train platform waiting for families who have fled with only the basics, went viral on social media. alex hogan, live at the border inside poland now. alex. >> hi, harris. it is a heartbreaking story that is repeated time and time again. but i do have to say, there's an
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overwhelming amount of support that the people here are received as they arrive here at the border of ukraine and poland. this is medical, or people are lined up hoping to get on one of these buses. they are greeted by volunteers who are helping with everything they possibly can do. they have received medical treatments, there are tents there in the background that you can see giving them shelter from these bitter cold this evening. there are volunteers here who are heating up food to give them hot drinks and dinner. anything for children to keep them warm as well. that support has been apparent in every border and refugee center that we've visited. there's a photo from a train station nearby where we are that went viral. it showed strollers left by polish mobs for the incoming ukrainian neighbors and those families. it was a bead full example of the solidarity and motherhood, even in times of crisis. as of today, 1 million children are now refugees from ukraine that half of the 2 million
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people who fled the country since russia's invasion. >> i heard president putin. i want him to die. >> we are seeing more people now load onto these buses. i do also have to say that, these police officers here who are working with these refugees have shown such tremendous kindness. even though it is a constant flow of people in and out. thousands of them, most of refugees have come through poland. they have shown everything a person such kindness by helping carry their bags, the little they have brought with them. even carrying children, helping to take that burden and show them that they again, are not alone. harris. >> harris: they are not alone. they are not. some of the countries around them. alex, thank you. i know romania is doing a lot. kennedy was with us yesterday. she has distant relatives there. her family had immigrated here. she talked about what romania is
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doing as well. some of the countries helping. new developments in the debate on whether the united states should impose a no-fly zone ukraine. we were just kind of getting into that. emily was like what more and we do that more and centeno's but we'll talk about what that will really look like, next.
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♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: president biden just last hour announcing a ban on russian oil imports after facing pressure from lawmakers on both side of the aisle. for him to take that step. the president saying, it has intended to increase the scene on putin. but ukraine's president zelensky has repeatedly called on western leaders to do more and implement a no-fly zone over its country. a group of 3030 foreign policy leaders wrote about a no-fly zone, to stop "per wow putin's murderous madness." the administration is not considering a no-fly zone at this time. charlie hurt, your thoughts.
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>> charlie: and i think it is probably unwise to publicly, for the administration to publicly broadcast what they are thinking about all of this. no matter what their decision is. i think it's idiotic. but that said, just sitting around talking about it, i think obviously the idea of enforcing a no-fly zone in ukraine is lunacy. on the part of the united states and outside countries because the best thing that can happen here, is to contain this and to and the carnage that we are seeing and expanding a war into world war iii with a bunch of countries that have nuclear weapons is not the way to do that. when you have american lawmakers like lindsey graham talking on twitter, joking or something, i don't know what he was doing. talking about assassinating vladimir putin, who claims he invaded ukraine because he thinks that the west is out to get him. it does not help. we need wise people, not foolish
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people. we need to be making very wise, thoughtful, careful decisions. i worry that this administration, and a lot of people in washington by the way are not capable of that. >> emily: right pad what you mean by contain this, charlie? what does that mean? >> charlie: contain it so that we do not expanded into a larger war. that's what i'm afraid of. >> emily: content and how? like watch it faster than ukraine's borders? i mean specifically what strategic action with the simmons ration take, short of doing nothing that would contain it. >> charlie: okay. i think the number one thing you can do, is for america to start drilling for oil and lower the price of oil so that vladimir putin runs out of money quicker and cannot continue. the way the situation is now, we will see gas prices go to north of $4 a gallon. it will go up to $5 a gallon. some of that money as it is, goes and pays for this very carnage. you know, another thing that we
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could do in the immediate that would help people, is there are a lot of wonderful charities out there that are working inside the borders of ukraine and working outside the borders of ukraine. joe biden could say look, this is crazy. we will start to become energy independent again and we will flexor muscles and take putin's money away and encourage people that instead of spending $5 a gallon gasoline, to send that money to all of these wonderful worthy charities there. but going in, and involving your struck me. >> emily: sorry to interrupt, but they just announced a ban. we are not bond russian oil anymore. >> charlie: okay. you know who will pay the price for that, american people will pay the price. we should not be here in the first place. the first thing that the administration should do, is announced that they are doing every thing that we can to go back to being a robust
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profitable, energy independent country. that is the best way to contain vladimir putin. >> gillian: i'll just say that the simmons ration is behind. when it takes ted cruz and nancy pelosi can on the same page before you announce any action, that tells you you need to know. >> emily: that's right. the state department is now warning any u.s. citizens in russia should leave immediately as concerns grow that americans could possibly be left behind yet again. more outnumbered after this. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ >> harris: united states state department is currently wanting any americans in russia to get out immediately. the u.s. embassy in moscow says, they have limited resources to assist american citizens trying to leave russia. countries have close their
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airspace to russian flights. including our own. making it difficult, much more difficult for people to get out and come home. gillian. >> gillian: so, u.s. officials are worried right now about americans stuck inside russia. they are saying, telling fox news behind the scenes, that as you mentioned, harris they are not necessarily right now tracking how many people are there inside the grounds. they say putin may yet go further with this effort to crack down. he has already rounded up journalists, he's hunting them down. shuttering media outlets. most alarmingly though, are european officials say that the russians have draft plans to begin public execution inside ukrainian cities. take a listen to the director of national intelligence, just an hour ago. >> it is unlikely to be deterred by such setbacks and i said, may escalate. essentially doubling down to achieve ukrainian disarmament.
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we assess that pollutant feels agreed that the west is not giving proper deference and proceeds that this is a war that he cannot afford to lose. >> gillian: not a state department is warning every u.s. citizen to leave immediately. the u.s. embassy in moscow has very limited resources to try and help americans who want to get out. as the country's closing airspace to russian flights. it is getting harder by the hour for americans to escape. how many citizens from america may be an rationale, state department spokesperson would only tell me, they don't keep reliable records. take a look at this. u.s. citizens aren't required to register their travel to a foreign country with us and we do not maintain comprehensive lists of u.s. citizens residing overseas. so the bottom line, harris, is that we do not know if there are dozens, hundreds, thousands or tens of thousands of americans inside russia right now. we do know, last month alone, 2,000 americans reached out to the state department and the embassy there to register that they were in fact on the ground,
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this presumably happening is they got nervous about things heating up. >> harris: yeah. you know, brittney griner place for the wnba. the phoenix mercury. we found out about three weeks ago that they haven't seen her. there's nobody that's come out of her at the airport. just outside moscow this airport. they say, they claim that there hashish oil that she was using for is a peer that would be not legal. not accepted in that culture. you know, we do not know the facts on the ground. but charlie, i'm curious from your perspective, it is hard to get americans out of places where they don't want to do business with us. as we are now not doing business with them. because they are killing people. >> charlie: absolutely. and what is really frustrating here is that it seems like the biden administration generally, and the state department specifically learned absolutely no lessons whatsoever out of afghanistan because of course, the bumbling withdrawal from afghanistan, we face these exact same problems.
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it is not like the biden administration did not realize that there was trouble brewing in ukraine along the border with russia. they've been aware of it and they been talked about for six months now. it is just yet another example where i think i speak for a lot of americans, i just don't have any faith in this administration. to make any smart decisions right now. which going back to our last discussion, it is why, the idea that people are talking about wanting to enforce a no-fly zone in ukraine with american jets is lunacy. >> harris: it is a last-ditch effort to undo something that clearly is already unfolding against every thing in our hearts. >> charlie: we should not be here in the first place. >> harris: i know it. i know it. you know, emily, it is kind of confusing to look at the lack of strategy that it appears is part of this administration.
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right? so, hope is not a strategy. i don't know if they were hoping for things to be different. but clearly, our commander in chief has not served. because, you do not go into a mission without a battle plan. >> emily: that's right. clearly there is no strategy and clearly the result is confusion. within a micro-macro sense. the american people are confused, what are our interest, why are we not protecting them better, how are we not protecting others better? we are confused by the options, clearly. my understanding, the polish just that would be used and in nato. it's not us. there is so much. i think the fact that the one thing we can always count on, is confusion and to be let down is really the most tragic thing. >> harris: they don't have enough to give them. they need more vintage mig flyers that the ukrainian pilots know how to fly. all right. more outnumbered in a moment.
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russian corridor for the first time in the city of sumy along the northeastern border. but mariupol has reports of renewed russian shelling. you can also join fox and the support of red cross efforts in ukraine. head to red cross.org, and also help by calling 800-helpnow. "america reports" is now. [gunfire]>> they came to our city, they damaged our infrastructure. and killed innocents. >> scary to stay home right now. >> process, out of the country, and others -- >> sandra: the sound of suffering from innocent ukrainians caught in the middle of an unprovoked invasion. now president biden is taking

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