i don't think someone deserves it at all. >> and the prediction is we could see as many as five million refugees before this is over, neil. >> just incredible. mike, thanks for putting that in perspective. i think of the markets and say painful, nothing like that. just a thought. ♪♪ >> hello everybody i'm jesse watters along with judge jeanine pirro, geraldo rivera dana perino and greg gutfeld. 5:00 o'clock in new york city and this is the five. ♪♪ president biden finally banning russian oil as putin's warm machine ramps up attacks on ukrainian civilians. under bipartisan pressure biden announcing a stop to imported russian energy. but instead of promising to produce more oil here at home,

the president pointed the finger at everybody else and doubled down on going green. >> i'm going to do everything i can to minimize putin's price hike at home. it's simply not true my administrations or policies are holding back domestic energy production. the oil and gas industry has millions of acres leased and 9,000 permits to drill, they could be drilling last week, last year. loosening regulations won't, let me say, will not, lower energy prices for families but transforming our economy to run on electric vehicles powered by clean energy with tax credits to help families winterize their homes and use less energy, that will help. >> jesse: while president biden focuses on that, americans are getting crushed by surging cost prices. the cost hitting an all time high of $4.17 with no signs of

slowing down. and vp kamala harris not doing much better. check out these tone deaf comments all american. >> imagine all the heavy duty vehicles that keep our supply lines strong and allow our economy to grow. imagine that they produced zero emission. well, you all imagined it. that's why we're here today. we are also announcing funding for, yes, one of my favorite topics, electric school buses. >> jesse: like she's doing a reading at kindergarten. get to her in a second. but i herd some grupp blings from you when biden was blaming energy companies for high prices. >> this is the thing that drives me crazy. remember when the biden white house, i remember the day fox news sunday, and a senior advisor came on and said it was actually republicans who wanted to defund the police. and i said are they saying that

with a straight face and try to get away with that? and then they did for a couple weeks and then dropped it because it's not true. i feel the same way about this energy as well. we were already seeing really high energy prices before russian invaded ukraine, let's start there and if you look over the past, you can find the quotes, we played one this morning of the secretary of energy laughing about high gas prices on november 3rd saying wow, if i had a magic wand i would love to do that. over and over again you can find administration officials saying we're going to have to go through pain in order for us to do what has to be done because the world's going to end in ten years because of climate change and they basically said the higher prices are what you were going to have to pay. the whole point about the leases, what bothers me -- permission to make an analogy. >> jesse: granted. >> dana: imagine you get a new car, you finance a car, you go through all the paperwork, you're so excited. but they won't give you the keys. that's what's happening. so they're saying what do you mean?

you can drill tomorrow. but i don't have the keys to do that. >> jesse: you have the lease but you don't have the permit. >> dana: exactly right. the other thing is they have tried to get so much ink from a sympathetic media about how great they've been about trying to get america off fossil fuel and they're outsoaringsing all of their carbon emissions to saudi, venezuela, russian, et cetera. final thing i'd like to say is when kamala harris says go buy a $50,000 electric vehicle. on what planet are they living on? it's like she said that nobody saw the omicron variant coming. so why weren't they planning on any of these russian sanctions on oil and gas before. why do they have to wait for kicking and screaming and waiting for 76 of america to say we're willing to pay higher prices. why do they have to wait for their poll numbers to say this is what's going to happen. why did they have to wait for nancy pelosi to say no we're doing this and she was going

through without them. bad day on the energy front however it could lead to something better and if we're pushing on the door and allows for more exploration in america it's good. >> jesse: you have to push hard on these guys. we were pushing for the russian import ban and they caved. maybe there's a chance if the pressure builds. >> greg: what, 8% of our imports? that could easily be absorbed by drilling more or even like hitting canada up for more. but i like how joe is framing this. this is a hardship that we must accept. he said defending freedom comes at a cost. and that is not true. that is not -- it's the environmental clap trap that comes at a cost. this is not about freedom. there would be no cost if we didn't demonize drilling and shut down lines and demonize fuel. it's not about beening why it's about exposing the destructiveness of the green ideology which is part of a larger ideology of punishment,

right? rich countries can handle this, just pay more gas. it's the poor countries that are going to suffer and it's going to be poor people in the united states, right? so you have twitter celebrities like george takai saying they should pay more to support ukraine but they're not truckers or sales men or uber drivers. this is the same mentality that we found with shutdowns, right? everybody could handle a shutdown if they were in the media because we all did our shows from our living rooms. same people that tell us to live with it can live with anything. so that's either climate change, covid, inflation. and once you see that you can't unsee it. there's an ideology of punishment and it's that you can handle the punishment, they're above it. >> jesse: i saw some media today, judge jeanine, and they weren't clamoring for biden to pass out more permits and leases. they were telling americans you just have to drive slower, you know, don't accelerate too fast. that's how you save. put on the sweater, right?

>> judge jeanine: yeah, well, you know, they actually referred to it as putin's price hike. you know, let's make the new energy putin as if we didn't hate the guy enough already. look, biden started the war on energy long before putin decided to invade ukraine and the trouble with this is, for anyone to believe that this is really about russian and the ukraine, that is to actually ignore the fact that, for years, there's this green left energy constituency trying to get us into electric cars. one % of americans have electric cares. i don't care how much kamala wants to go up there and laugh and giggle and say imagine. i feel like i'm in the middle of a john lennon song. i'm not going to drive an electric car right away and we've got to get oil and gas from somewhere. we can do it in the united states, we already know that. this is what i this think is most insulting to the american people. if you really think the people

that produce oil are not chomping at the bit saying holy moly it's 130 bucks a barrel, i've got to get myself into this business, i want to make some money. they can't even get a permit to make a road to get to the site where the lease takes them let alone decide whether or not there's oil or gas, whether or not they can drill. i mean, everything they're doing is anti american. >> jesse: you know the people that most geraldo if you're making 50, 60 grand a year. >> you talking about rich people? oil people? >> jesse: talkinging about regular americans. >> i do know regular americans. >> jesse: if you're making that much money and spending a hundred dollars to fill up your truck, how long can you wait for a wind mull. >> my fear jesse is that we are he a burying the lead. the lead is no more russian blood oil. that's the lead. so russia has been hit. now with the sanction, the only

sanction that they truly fear was a cutoff of their only product. russia, after all is a first world arm, third world country gas station, that's all it is. it produces oil and gas. so we've hurt them. we finally have hit them where it hurts. they are killing civilians and unleashed this massive refugee crisis. they have destroying this poor country, ukraine, on their border. i wanted to stick it to them and i think the president finally has. exxon, mobile and chevron, as you know, today announced that they are increasing production in the basin for exactly the reasons judge jeanine that you suggest, they want to cash in. but i also think that we have to go with caution. these oil speculateers are the wolves of wall street. these are the people that drove the price of a barrel of oil down to zero at a certain point because of speculation. >> jesse: wasn't that during the pandemic? >> there's a lot of profit tearing going on is my point and i think if you just say it's all

about biden not drilling you're missing some of the truth. >> judge jeanine: are you serious? >> i'm serious. >> jesse: sometimes. >> you may take me unserious but i'm serious. >> greg: good news is mcdonald's pulling out of russian so no gas from them. >> jesse: russia anns will get skinnier from that. >> potential game changer in ukraine, poland offering to send zelenskyy fighter jets: u and d♪ and it's easy to customize your insurance at libertymutual.com so you only pay for what you need. isn't that right limu? limu? limu? sorry, one sec. doug blows several different whistles. doug blows several different whistles. [a vulture squawks.] there he is. only pay for what you need.

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>> dana: ukrainian president zelenskyy refusing to back down despite russian military attacks on his country.

zelenskyy revealing his location in the war torn capitol kyiv and sending this defiant message. >> i think here in kyiv at bancova street. i don't hide and i'm not afraid of anyone. i will stay here as long as is necessary to win in our patriotic war. >> dana: and as president zelenskyy begs for more help announcing it is priored to deploy might go 29 fighter jets at an air base in germany giving the us an opportunity to transfer them to ukraine. the state department says they were caught off-guard. let's go to mike the lead in ukraine. good evening, mike. i think it's just after midnight there. >> it is. and poland was reluctant to make this move fearing that slippery slope to combat of east versus west if they were to donate the aircraft and suddenly there came this announcement today that poland would donate its fleet of

mig 29s with the promise they would back fill them with f 15s. us officials say they were blind sided beside the announcing. here's the secretary of state. >> when i saw that announcement by the government of poland as i was literally driving here today, to my knowledge, it wasn't pre consulted with us that they planned to give these planes to us. but, as you know, we have been having consultations with them for a couple of days now about this request from the ukrainians to receive their aircraft. >> now the ukrainians would welcome this development because their pilots are trained to fly the migs and there seems to be a mechanism through which the polish government can put it back on nato by putting the planes back into the air force base. but, again, the ukrainians have requested time and time again for a no-fly zone or the way the ukrainians put it, to close the sky. they feel it would very -- it

would be a step toward equalizing this fight. in fact, one of the refugees that i spoke with yesterday said they very much want to close the skies because if you can take the fight to the ground, he said, we'd kill them like rats. guys, back to you >> dana: mike tobin thank you stay safe and see you later tonight i'm sure. jesse what do you think about this move by the pols? >> jesse: pols really tried to force their hand, didn't they? i don't think they want their hands dirty but do we want our dirty? why transfer them to technically an a us air base in germany. it seems convoluted but again this i is trying to drag american into this. this is a nato alliance, defensive alliance, let's not expand it and play a game of chicken with somebody who has nothing to lose. putin has nothing to loose. economy is cratering. this is his last gasp here.

this is all or nothing for him and why would you play chicken with someone like that? he's just going to go all out so it's incredibly risky. i would just like to be a little more measured. you give them things here, we give them things there, ramp up, see how russia reacts. because if we just start sending air crafts into that war zone, what happens if that pilot engages a russian anti aircraft battalion down on the ground. so we're taking out russian anti aircraft in russian proper or belarus? that's how you have to defend yourself in the sky. i'm afraid of this spiralling out of control. we went in the entire cold war with never having to get into a shooting war with the russians and all of a sudden we're going to escalate on their front door. i like the idea -- this is a proxy war right? proxy war right on their doorstep, i get it, that's where we are now, but the jet thing seems a little risky.

and i'm not ready to say, hey, biden, you're commander in chief, you're in charge, i trust you. this is not a guy i trust to manage this type of delicate deal with the russians who are desperate right now. >> dana: the other thing is, earlier today we were told that there was frustration that this decision making was stuck at the white house and we asked the admiral about that and he said, no, no, no, everything's fine. clearly not everything is fine geraldo if the pols said okay we will force your hand and send these >> geraldo: i think the whole idea in theory is fine and noble and sounds like it would be objective and answer our nagging, you know, gut wrenching feeling that we're allowing the ukrainians to be pummeled from the air by the russian air superiority but i don't see it happening. mechanically what do you do? send the ukrainian pilot to germany, then you've got to check them out. you have to make sure they can

integrate the polish instrumentation with the ukrainian air defenses. >> dana: that's what happened in world war ii >> geraldo: in world war ii it happened but it took a long time and europe is still mad at us for taking so long to get involved and engaged. i like the idea in theory, i just don't see it. i agree with jesse about the need to be measured and not provoke, you know, a wounded lion there. one quick thing about zelenskyy and his safety. i think zelenskyy is already immortal. he's already leonitis or churchill. they can't kill him. even if they do he will live on forever. i don't think we should be poking putin, he's made his point, been very flamboyant and now i want him to keep safe. >> dana: judge you have a pensive look on your face.

>> judge jeanine: i have to tell you us has always taken the lead with nato and i think, you know, take this is very complicated. but i also think that if poland is willing to give, you know, the migs to the ukrainians, and that our job would be to back fill, what is the problem? and you mentioned it geraldo and i throw this out for discussion only, with ukrainians getting that plane from poland or from germany? and flying it? i mean, these -- we're watching the massacre of a nation and children -- this is can balanceism what's going on. it's terrorism >> geraldo: i agree with you. >> judge jeanine: this is mid evil. so, whoa, we have to make sure they know how to threw i the plane. baloney. let them -- if we can get the planes to them -- make no mistake, putin is going to change the rules at every turn. if you provide a plane, you're provoking us. if you do this, you're provoking me. at some point we've got to stand up and say we're stronger than

you are you little -- >> what if he fires a tactical nuclear weapon? >> judge jeanine: that's the problem. that's the problem. and what if we like kowtow so he has no incentive to not do it. we're not going to do our nuclear exercises because we don't want to intimidate him. we have the wrong guy in the white house. >> greg: i think the overarching message is we should be very weary based on messages coming out of ukraine or russia. there's a lot of stuff we hear about that turns out to not be true. the media is framing this in a way that -- this isn't my analogy this is how i feel. that ukraine is like the child of a divorce and they're fighting for custody, and russia is the biological parent and we are the step mom who doesn't want the abusive dad to get him. that may not be an accurate analogy but that's how i feel the narrative dynamic is going, and i see -- this is what i give

credit to zelenskyy is that this is the old world versus the new world. putin thinks the world is only about seizing land and zelenskyy understands you're seizing minds now. he's fighting a persuasive battle for minds and i can canning putin's butt on this. whether the stuff zelenskyy is saying is try, it's positively trumpian. i love zelenskyy the way the guy who feeds him pellets because i'm in a industry where i love getting the pellet every day. but you have to wonder when you're listening whether these pellets are real or not whether we're being artificially pulled into a conflict, right, through this david and goliath narrative that we're given >> geraldo: but it's true >> greg: maybe it is. maybe it is. i'm not saying it's not true. but i'm saying you have to be aware of what's true versus what stands out. every day planes leave every second of the day.

the only thing that stands out is when a plane crashes. so we like the stuff that stands out to be reported but it's not necessarily representative of reality. we have to ask ourselves every day are we being manipulated into entering a war that we should be no part of it and i resent anybody saying you must be pro russian or pro putin. no, i'm pro american >> geraldo: you have to believe your eyes >> greg: i don't think we should get involved >> geraldo: getting involved giving them everything they possibly need that we have -- like the javelin, the stingers, the other shoulder fired missiles. knocking helicopters and aircraft and russians out of the sky. if the story is true that david is now mus terring his strength and taking on goliath successfully and convoys are stalled and tanks abandoned and crews surrendered, you know, it

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entire world. but, as a parent or, you know, grand parent, you see those little children with their little puppy coats, the quilt coats they wear to school and their little school bags and the knapsack on the back. i mean, come on. we've got to understand that our honor is tied to ukraine's survival. >> judge jeanine: one of the things that i think about is the fact that america at one time was seen as the number one super power, you know, the country that everybody dies, literally, to come to in order to start a life here. and we're like kind of like cowering in the back. it's not as though zelenskyy didn't ask us in october, ask the biden administration in october, november, for some military support, and, you know, it's not like we didn't know about this. and today we decide, after 13 days of bloodshed, that we can't even take it anymore, we're going to stop buying russian oil. look, the problem is that this is right in front of us that we're seeing children die,

children with tumors not getting their chemo treatment, and we're just sitting here and saying, whoa, you know, we have to watch this rule and that rule. baloney. this is about human beings helping other human beings. and the refugee crisis god bless poland taking 1.2 million. they took a whole bunch in 2014. look at these children crying ripped away from families ripped apart. imagine what it's like to say i'm never going home and never going to be in my own bed again and leaving. we have to do something. i'm sorry. i mean, i'm not into this, you know, we can't be suicidal about it but we've got to be more humane about it >> geraldo: on that point isn't your point of war with feeling that we must help that we can't allow these -- >> jesse: of course >> geraldo: how do you reconcile >> jesse: saying her heart and her mind. if the president gets out on national tv and gives a speech

and says american national security is at steak in ukraine and here is why, and he made that case, you would have people scratching their head and saying maybe we should do a no-fly zone. he has not made that case. i have not heard that case from a lot of people. united states of america has not intervened in a lot of wars throughout the world, genocide, human catastrophe. a lot. okay? it's right now up to nato to defend nato countries. if article five is triggered of course you go in. of course now you just throw as many weapons at this as you possibly can and support the hell out of the ukrainians because it is a proxy war, we have to fight it to the death now. but, geraldo, i'm afraid, i'm afraid of going in and having a jet shot down. i'm afraid of biden bumbling us into war in europe again like we have a couple times in our history. i don't like it and russia looks scary right now backed up against a corner.

what's stopping them from topping a tactical nuke from scaring us away. what do we do then? what do we do then? >> geraldo: excellent question and it is the dilemma we all face. what do you think of the move by, i think mostly republicans, in the former policy establishment, where the no-fly zone would only be for the protection of civilians being evacuated. limited. >> dana: again, just depends how you're going to define it but i think even as you get closer and closer to saying somebody would be a no-fly zone. to jeannine's point putin is going to say no matter what you do -- the fact we woke up this morning is a provocation to him. everything is a provocation. but i would like to talk a moment about the humanitarian issues. the international red cross is a great place if you want to try to help. the pols are doing a lot but so is romania and slovakia. they need help in order to do that.

there's a lot of trauma experienced by the women and children that have fled and the elder citizens who had to leave with anything they can find. i would love to see creativity on the idea of a humanitarian corridor. is there someone, swiss or somebody that can say let us try to do it and let them try to figure out a way to get people to safety and see if putin would allow that. that might be some sort of creative way >> geraldo: how about the chinese? >> dana: it did cross my mind but i wasn't going to say it. but, yeah, sure, give them a job. the other thing is, i think that the first lady has an opportunity here to bring together the living former first ladies along with the first ladies of europe or the first gentlemen in some cases, and figure out a way to get some humanitarian relief to these people in terms of a fund raising effort or something like that. there would be a willingness to do that and the outpouring would be remarkable across the country >> geraldo: i sense, greg, in you a conflict. that you're not convinced with

the prevailing narrative. >> greg: that's a pretty good assessment. i can feel the galvanizing force of these stories that kind of have sped up and are accumulating to create a narrative. and they only go in one direction. and i understand why they only go in one direction, because it's the invaded who experience the atrocity, right? and that's all we're going to see. however, i can't help but feel that this is a lot like other stories that we've gone through in the digital age in which an image is taken and then played over and over and over again to create some kind of emotional response out of you, because that makes a profit for news companies, right? so we had, for a long period of time there, we saw nothing but videos of police brutality and then, over time, we discovered the mundane realities that police were interacting with suspects in high crime areas, and that led to certain kinds of problems. that's the mundane reality. but, instead, we were pummeled,

pummeled with images of police brutality which led to a year of riots. there's some good things and bad things coming out of this era. this is a crisis you're seeing in the digital age which means there's almost a self healing capacity arnold the world everybody can join in and do something about it, i think that's good, whether humanitarian or what. we're all seeing it at the same time. there are crisis like this that has happened for thousands of years and we didn't know. we just didn't know. we didn't see it. the bad part is there is this galvanizing kind of narrative that is there to create a reaction, and if somebody like me says, hold on a second, and you try to counter the drum beat, you're seen as an inconsiderate cold harded pussy. but if you amplify that story, why can't up you be called pro war. if you want to push this stuff why can't i call you proceed war? we're stuck in the prison of two ideas right now where you either have to be one way or you have to be the other. it's not as clear as that.

it's somewhere in the middle and just saying that you have to do something is not enough. just because the news is pushing these videos at you doesn't mean you've got to do something machine man and on the other hand, i cannot lindsey's photo of the two dead little children, and they were dead unequivocally. >> greg: we forget a lot of things that happen here >> geraldo: more on the ukrainian -- ukrainian. quiet. >> dana: oh, no >> geraldo: more on the ukrainian suffering crisis, a live report next.

♪♪ . >> judge jeanine: the refugee crisis getting worse by the hour. more than two million people have already fled ukraine including one million children. families being ripped apart from their loved ones as they desperately try to survive. benjamin hall is live in kyiv with more on this. >> good evening, judge. and speaking of someone on the ground, i want to say that this

is not the media trying to drum up some emotional response. this is absolutely what's happening in the cities of kharkiv maripol they are being flattened and people are fleeing to safety. two million have gone. in the city of maripol people are drinking from puddles because the russian forces vice-president allowed them to get out. when they try to get out they're shelled. the red cross buses have been unable to get in. it's an absolute catastrophe and the people caught in in the middle are the ones suffering. don't take it from my word take it from the word of some of those trying to flee. have a listen. >> we are adjust saving our lives. that's it. that's all we can do here. >> what have you left behind? >> everything. everything. we have two bags, and that's it. >> there is more video than we know what to do with, so often does it come in and so

widespread. it is a tragic tragic thing that is happening in this country. we will continue to cover it for you here on the ground but it is only set to get worse. back to you. >> thanks so much benjamin. and if you would like to help out the refugee relief efforts, visit redcross.org or scan the qr code on the bottom right of your screen. fox corporation has donated $1 million to the american red cross. you, too, can join us by donating to provide aid and resources to those in need in ukraine. you know what, geraldo, you're very passionate about this. i'll go to you. the description of what's going on is, according to unicef, a dark, historical first. there is a refugee situation created that is unlike anything we've ever seen in history. it takes individuals to resolve this. the government's not going to resolve it. >> geraldo: well, i think you're right in this sense. when you look at what the polish

people have done, it makes me -- i could cry. how they've opened their country to these refugees. half of all the refugees have gone to poland. poland, remember, couple years ago was part of the soviet block. they were a communist country. they were, you know, our enemy. now look at them. they are fully democratic, they are welcoming these needy people saying come to us, taking their historic role. i admire them so, so much. i really, i think that poland has really stepped up. >> judge jeanine: i think a lot of people have. and you know, jesse, what's interesting is the eu is offering those escaping the war a visa waiver to live and work in any of the countries in the eu for the next three years. i mean, that didn't take them long at all. they just figured that out. >> jesse: well, yes, this is their neighborhood and they reacted very quickly. to our discussion that we just had and what we've been hearing

here, the american people could change their mind about what they feel our role should be in ukraine. it could get so horrific after a little while that we could just change our entire calculation. how i feel and how i think the american people right now is that, sanctions are really starting to destroy this economy. this is a very, very short war so far, ten days old. let's see how this plays out. it's not -- it hasn't been over like that. ukrainian people are putting up a hell of a fight. let's not jump into something. it's really easy to get into a war, impossible to get out most of the time. that's how the people feel right now. and that could change. but right now that is not the american people how they feel. >> judge jeanine: dana we're not suggesting we jump into the war but is there more we could do. >> dana: there's a couple things. one get our own energy house in order and i think our president barely took a step forward that

the private sector has to do that and the american people have to say look 75% of us want to have more domestic oil and gas production because we've seen what happened to europe over time several decades they basically advocated their security, national security to other countries trying to keep green. the other thing to keep in mind is the energy crisis and the problems happening now at the ports means that there's going to be a major food crisis in the world. because a lot of grain and wheat comes out of ukraine. about 30% for the world. so automatically that's off the table. and today you heard that china is buying up all the grain that it possibly can. so now the prices are going to go up. our world food program already had half the amount of rations to people in refugee camps like in yemen for example. when you have a food crisis that leads to more uprising. the problem that is happening in ukraine right now, that war is going to have ripple effects

around the world in which america is asked to take a leading role we have to figure out what to do about it. >> judge jeanine: last word greg >> greg: what do you think, should i take benjamin hall's cheap attack on me or be a good co-worker and let it slide. >> dana: remember what you said about our reporters last week >> greg: i said wonderful things. >> jesse: also bad things. >> greg: i will be the berman here. as i said before when this started, we want the quickest end possible. my concern has always been, when a narrative creates a story that bulsters one side, that is out of its element will you create more suffering. that is the simple point i'm making is that could this have been prevented if there was a reality-based decision made and not the david and goliath narrative which could prolong this and lead to more suffering and more humanitarian crisis. >> judge jeanine: two sides. what two sides? you've got putin who attacked ukraine. >> greg: yes.

>> judge jeanine: what are the two sides? is it justified. >> greg: do you have time do you want to talk about it or do you want to stick to the simplicity. >> judge jeanine: you mean there's some justification on the attacks by russian to ukraine >> greg: this is the problem you can't actually talk substance about this. >> one sentence. >> greg: it has been going on for decades. >> judge jeanine: this is unlike the middle east >> up next, signs of losing control in russian as they violently crack down on his own people. as a struggling actor, i need all the breaks that i can get. at liberty butchemel... cut. liberty mu... line? cut. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. cut. liberty m... am i allowed to riff? what if i come out of the water? liberty biberty... cut. we'll dub it. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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>> greg: vladimir putin continuing to crack down on russians protesting his invasion into ukraine. more than 13,000 protesters have reportedly been arrested in the past two weeks including nearly 5,000 this past sunday alone. i heard someone make an interesting point dana, that russian is destroying decades of economic progress, or putin is destroying russia's decades. it's basically a sequel to the collapse of the ussr. this is like the second go around to putin to do that again. >> dana: that's interesting because what he was trying to do is respond the ussr and it was like whoops. it's not just the whoops. >> we're talking about information, how do you get information.

one of the things that authoritarian regimes i put putin in that category they figure out a way to wall off the internet so you access to it but there are very smart people around the world that are attacking, there are virtual safe rooms where you can can search the internet and find the information you need. young people in russia will figure this out and show other people to find those things and we should support those efforts as well >> greg: jesse putin is old school in a new school. i don't think he understands what is going on outside this world in social media. maybe he doesn't have to care. but i don't think that he understands how the world is looking at this. or he cares. >> jesse: yeah. i don't think he thinks his people care as much as they do but the rubles lost half its valuable so everything is literally twice as expensive. they can't travel or use credit cards and this is going to be twice as bad as i think banking implosion in '98. they're going to contract their

gdp something like double digits. this is so bad for the russian people they're going to have to build more prisons than they already have to arrest more protesters. to your point about wheat? that's maybe when you do have to do something, in the mediterranean, you might have to send naval assets over there because you have to control this somehow >> greg: geraldo you've had pandemic, we've had war and now we're up for famine. this is truly biblical stuff >> geraldo: the horsemen of the apocalypse. russia seems to be unraveling. as an observing it seems to be unraveling. this guy is ending all defense that sprung up. the thing that really troubles me is his growling about nukes. every time something, he gets pressed he growls about nukes. and i just worry, i really worry about it. >> greg: what do you think

judge? russia. >> judge jeanine: i think russia is in the near future the same as ukraine in terms of their being crushed by this guy putin. not the same way, but that they're going to be suffering economically, financially, food-wise. and expression-wise. they're being arrested on the street and he's going to finish them, too. and we'll see. we'll see if they get rid of him >> greg: all right, more breaking news from ukraine next. ♪♪ ♪ i've traveled every road in this here land! ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, man. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, man. ♪ ♪ crossed the desert's bare, man. ♪ ♪ i've breathed the mountain air, man. ♪ ♪ of travel i've had my share, man. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere. ♪ ♪ i've been to: pittsburgh, parkersburg, ♪ ♪ gravelbourg, colorado, ♪ ♪ ellensburg, cedar city, dodge city, what a pity. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, man. ♪ .

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♪ >> jesse: welcome back, everybody. russia continuing its brutal assault on ukraine. let's go around the table for some final thoughts. judge jeanine? >> judge jeanine: the humanitarian crisis is going to continue until the cessation of hostilities. it doesn't seem like that is going to happen soon. we are going to be seeing this for a lot longer. >> jesse: yes. we will. geraldo? >> geraldo: putin hates us and our way of life and our

liberties. he wants to end the post world war ii order. he wants to absolutely make democracies obsolete. this is the cold war part 2. this further away. >> bret: if you want to keep going around the table i'm good. all right. all right. next time. thanks, jesse. good evening, welcome it washington. i'm bret baier. breaking tonight. president biden says the u.s. will not be part of subsidizing vladimir putin's war in ukraine. today the president announceds a ban on russian oil imports. it's a move the administration has warned will result in higher fuel prices ahead already record numbers at the pump. also tonight officials in poland say they will send making 29 fighter jets from poland to