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resolution in ukraine or will putin double down and zelenskyy dig in as the russian military surrounds kyiv. russia says it will stop its bombardment in five ukrainian cities as we've seen in the past some of those cease-fires have been tenuous at best. it's notable that the ukrainian president zelenskyy has moved off his demand that ukraine gain nato membership and that could be a major concession from what he was saying a few days ago. the biden administration proceeded today as if none of these potentially positive developments were even happening. instead, they dispatch to their intel officials to capitol hill to paint a picture of what could be a bloodied month ahead. reasonably with billions of dollars on the line. what's really going on here? tulsi gabbard has a theory and she's going to join us in moments. but first let's check in with fox's benjamin hall standing by in the ukrainian capital, what is a situation there tonight?

>> without a doubt what we've seen today is a continuation and escalation of these indiscriminate attacks on civilians. on the one hand you have humanitarian supplies who are unable to get into these cities, on the other you have people unable to leave them. in the city of mariupol, people of and trying to escape. hospitals are running out of supplies, very low on painkillers, very low in antibiotics. the death toll is unknown and prudence bombs keep dropping. as you said, the others all failed. the root into mariupol had been mined at other corridors are being shelled. russia announced a cease-fire for tomorrow again and civilians will try again. although russian forces continue to make some gains particularly around the kyiv, they continue

to suffer major losses. this convoy was destroyed outside sumy -- despite these russian setbacks the sheer size and scale of the army means they keep coming. president zelenskyy called for more help. >> we are looking for your help. please increase the pressure of sanctions again and please recognize this country as a state and make sure our ukrainian skies are safe. >> around the capital of kyiv there were more scenes of desperation as ukrainians tried to flee, crossing the river to reach the capital. the mayor of that town saying he would never surrender and to stay and fight. there are some interesting movements on the diplomatic front. the ukrainian foreign minister will me the russian foreign minister on thursday in turkey, expectations set low but it doesn't suggest a push for more serious negotiations.

>> laura: thank you so much. despite clear signs that the american people do not want a hot war with russia, the biden administration almost seems hell-bent on frightening us into one. the latest salvo started sunday with secretary of state antony blinken's big promise. >> if for instance the polish government, nato member wants to send fighter jets, does that get a green light from the u.s. or are you afraid that will escalate tensions? >> that gets a green light. we are talking with our polish friends right now about what we might be able to do to backfill their needs. >> laura: not convinced that was a brilliant idea, neither were some of his friends at the pentagon. spokesman john kirby earlier today clarified that the u.s. did not support transferring fighter planes from nato bases in germany to ukraine ergo have no fear, the deep state spinsters were on capitol hill today intent on making you feel

like we have to do a lot more. >> our analysts suggested putin is unlikely to be deterred by setbacks and may escalate, doubling down to achieve ukrainian disarmament. >> i think he is angry and on frustrated right now, he is likely to double down and try to grind down the ukrainian military with no regard for civilian casualties. >> laura: going to me now, former democratic congressman tulsi gabbard. where we talk about no-fly zones except for the first time we have president zelenskyy stepping back from his earlier nato wishes and even demands. >> that is literally the most important question here. i look at these issues, i think about what is in the best interest of the american people? is what we're doing going to be good for the american people or not? clearly discontinued escalation of this conflict and this war is not in the best interest of the american people or the world which is why zelenskyy's

statement last night on "abc news" for the first time that i'm aware of opening the door, a window of opportunity where he's open to the fact that saying maybe we will set this nato membership thing aside and he's willing to talk to putin directly to negotiate the outcome or the status of these disputed territories. extending an olive branch. two points here, the first thing i thought is why is this making headlines everywhere -- why isn't everybody talking about this? even abc news themselves didn't write a great piece and publish this across the platforms, i had to dig to find it. secondly and most importantly is why isn't the biden-harris administration charging forward to take advantage and support president zelenskyy in this opening that he has created in trying to bring about an end to this conflict, bringing an end to the suffering that we are seeing every single day?

>> laura: isn't it the case -- excuse me if i'm interrupting -- isn't it the case that the longer this goes on, unless there's some miracle in the offing but the longer this goes on, the higher the price -- i would argue that putin is going to try to enact from ukraine. it's not like it's going to get easier as time goes on, it's going to get harder for ukraine as it goes on. and yet we don't seem to be hearing any of this, any discussion of this from the foreign policy elites in washington. >> nothing the biden administration has done has helped make this situation better or helped de-escalate the situation which is why the only conclusion i can draw about why they have been completely silent and not engaging at all in this window of opportunity that president zelenskyy opened last night -- what is happening before our eyes right now is exactly what they want to see

continue. why is that? because it's good for the military-industrial complex. what makes these politicians look tough and it allows them to have this proxy war with russia, something hillary clinton laid out just recently, what their aims are. this war machine, this power elite in washington. they want to turn ukraine into another afghanistan, turn it into a killing field for this long term insurgency is supported and they bleed out and cripple -- kill as many russians as possible for who knows how long. they are showing their aim in the fact that they are not taking action right now to end this conflict. >> laura: it might not surprise you because you just mentioned it but hillary clinton is indeed back on the war wagon. >> if you care about freedom, you care about democracy, if you care about the rights of individuals, if you care abo ou future, even though it's a war

happening far away, it is a war that will affect what kind of world we are going to live in. ukrainians are fighting for all of us. >> laura: they are fighting for americans in ukraine? >> people like hillary clinton, joe biden, they'll use this flowery language about how we have to take a stand and pay the price, the american people need to pay so much more for gas, so much more for food. make those decisions between filling their gas tank and buying groceries because freedom? the question we should be asking them is okay, tell us how russia somehow has the power to take away our freedom of speech, here in america. tell us how russia has the power to take away the freedom and rights of parents who want to make sure their kids are getting a quality education. tell us how russia has the power

somehow to take away our right to bear arms. the rights that are enshrined in our bill of rights. the answer is they don't, they don't have that power. the lines we are being sold, it's crap, rather than being leaders and bring about an end to this war. >> laura: we have our own politicians are eroding constitutional rights every day. a pretty stunning poll released that speaks not only to the current conflict but also to american views in the country. the survey asked americans what they would do if they faced the same situations at the ukrainians are facing right now, with a stay and fight or would they run? the majority of republicans and independents said they would fight. 52% of democrats said they would, said they would leave the country and by 48 to 45% margin

18 to max 34-year-olds said they would also flee. dunamis now is tom bevan, president of real clear politics. former clinton partner and strategist. are you surprised by these findings? i'm utterly not. >> it makes perfect sense. if you don't have a passionate love for the country, why would you want to stay and fight for it? the problem is particularly when you look at the younger generation, they have been taught that america is a racist country, we have a shameful past two they are not connected to, we haven't been talking about the beauty of america and have love and passion for it. in some ways these poll numbers reflect what we have seen. we did a poll for real clear research asked about patriotism and generation z, millennials, 49% of all americans that they were very patriotic but only 28%

of the youngest generation, those millennials said they were very patriotic. there is this disconnect from the younger generation that has been basically taught, that america is a shameful place to live. i think that is reflected in these poll numbers. >> laura: are there any warning signs here for the democrats given, again, this belief they are being taught and re-taught in public schools and especially private as well that america is a structurally racist place with a horrible past? we are supposed to export our values abroad -- how does that work? >> i thought the results were disappointing, they were surprising because of only 45% of those 18 to 34's would stay and fight and 66 of over 60 would stay and fight, an army need to be staffed by those 18 to 34. that is a problem not just for our politics but our national

security, for maintaining an army that will defend this country in the event of an attack. >> laura: who was going to sign up for a military if it's main focus is woking the enlistees. the media has been touting another recent poll finding that 74% of americans said that the u.s. and its allies in nato should impose a no-fly zone in ukraine. how irresponsible is it -- or is it irresponsible for these polling outfits to ask these provocative questions without any context what it would involve and perhaps what it might trigger? >> right. polling is an art as much as it's a science and it depends how you asked the question, how you phrase the question and whether you provide with those trade-offs are going to be. 75% may take a no-fly zone is a great idea until you ask them the result of that and the consequence of that might be

triggering an all-out war with a nuclear powered russia and you see those numbers drop dramatically. i think that is one of those questions, it is irresponsible to publish something like that without providing the context. that's one of the questions quite frankly better to be ignored in the current environment. >> laura: the same quinnipiac poll i just mentioned also said if the invasion of ukraine contributed to feelings of anxiousness, 57% republicans and said no but 61% of democrats said yes. what's going on? >> there is an anxiety gap created by the war. i don't know what to make as much of that finding as 71% of the poll did support the ban of russian oil. i think there is big support for an economic boycott but there is anxiety and democrats have more anxiety but remember republicans here may want to step it up and

fight more. i think the american public is looking for leadership on this. they can't analyze all these issues and individual questions. the question is what do our leaders think should be done. of what the public wants is they want putin pushback, they want ukraine saved and they don't want to get into a war. we may or may not be able to accomplish all of those things at once. >> laura: i can tell you what they want, to dollar a gallon gasoline prices. thank you. and now, joe sacrifices america, that the focus of tonight's angle. when president biden announced his band that you heard so much about today on russian energy imports, he decided to use the moment to do something that is disgustedly washington -- shift blame. >> this is a step we are taking to inflict further pain on putin but there will be a cost is well here in the united states, defending freedom is going to cost, it's when to cost us as well.

>> laura: who are we kidding? we've been doing nothing but paying for biden and his party's mistakes since he took power. from their insane covid mandates to their willful denial of inflation to their crusade against fossil fuels and now their bungling of u.s. foreign policy. this isn't simply incompetent, at this point it's purposeful, i think it's vindictive. democrats never let a crisis go to waste, we know that. the fact is ukraine just like the pandemic is another tragedy for them to exploit in an attempt to save themselves in the midterms. you think the country is going in the wrong direction, pain at the pump? all you need to know, it's russia's fault. this is one of the many lies that biden is telling americans who are suffering under his weak leadership.

there's nothing a u.s. president, the most powerful in the country in the world -- nothing he could do about it, nothing? it's all in putin's hands? are we just imagining our previous energy independence hunter trump? that's what biden wants you to believe. >> it's simply not true that my administration or policies are holding back domestic energy production. it's simply not true. >> laura: except that's precisely what he did do. he halted new drilling, he issued fewer permits, he ditched the big alaska oil project, he suspended leases in and canceled keystone xl. that's what has us behind the eight ball and because solar and wind don't run america we are more dependent on despotic regimes and under trump. enter the new plans, boycott russia, buy venezuela. that is brilliant.

the lie didn't stop, they kept going on. who was really to blame for the current predicament we are in? >> the united response to putin's aggression has been my focus, to keep nato and the e.u. and our allies totally united. today, we remain united in our purpose, to keep pressure mounting on putin and his war machine. >> laura: false, nato is united and unified only to the extent that they all wish this didn't happen -- it's a terrible tragedy of course they agree on that. but nato unity is one of the greatest illusions ever sold. for starters, germany opposes banning russian energy. the netherlands are not totally on board to. even the u.k. is wary of immediately cutting off russian oil and gas. >> you can't simply close down the use of oil and gas overnight, even from russia, that is obviously not something

that every country around the world can do. >> laura: may be so, that is biden's fault also muscle. they could have been buying from us but biden shut it down and empowered russia as a major supplier of europe's oil, natural gas, and coal. what would have made us stronger and freer and by extension make europe stronger and freer, the democrats wholeheartedly rejected. that's all on putin? he's just a beneficiary of our own self-loathing, self-destructive, terrible, awful, rotten leadership. biden swore to uphold and protect the constitution of the united states, not to uphold and protect international norms, global equity, climate change and a border area in a nonnato country. the people controlling biden know full well that their gold green global agenda requires the

resetting of the american mind away from the old normal to a new, more compliant normal. every move they make is designed to prepare you, america, to get used to living with less. less travel, less privacy, less income, less freedom. when you are pining away for the way things used to be, don't blame joe, blame vladimir putin. >> americans are paying higher price at the pump because of the actions of president putin. this is a putin spike at the gas pump. >> i'm going to do everything i can to minimize putin's price hike at home. >> laura: who needs a white house press secretary when you have a white house press corps to spin for you? >> gas is actually less expensive than it was in 2008 during the previous record, if you take inflation into account. we spoke to one couple who says

they say it's worth paying higher prices right now. >> willing to pay higher prices. >> i'm willing to sacrifice and pay for the people who are suffering in ukraine. >> every single person we have spoken to here feels the exact same way, they feel it's worth it to pay higher prices if it's supporting the people in ukraine. >> laura: we'll a c in november, won't we. these are biden propagandists, they would make putin proud. that's when biden goes on about the cost of defending freedom in ukraine, our own citizens now with everything that has been happening over the past 14 months may be about our own freedom and our own safety at home. they are seeing life's basic necessities become increasingly unaffordable and unattainable. they see our southern border increasingly overrun with migrants and criminal cartels. don't think about that -- you

are not to complain about anything that is happening here, you are not. if you do, you're just doing putin's work, you're doing it for him or you do not care about the suffering of the ukrainian people, your horrible person if you worry about your own country. we do worry about ukraine, but we also care a lot about what's being done to our own country by people who will not stop lying there go >> russian oil will no longer be acceptable in u.s. ports and the american people will deal another powerful blow to putin's war machine. >> laura: a powerful blow. for the in ukraine will end when putin gets the deal he wants, not a moment sooner. most of europe is still buying oil from russia and when china is there to pick up the slack, our oil sanctions, they are not nothing but they're basically symbolic. finally, the venal, destructive role our press is playing here cannot be overstated. they don't believe americans

paying higher food and gas prices as a sacrifice to them, they they believe america has too much, it's time to reset the american mind together, global thinking only please. despite all the alleged concern about ukraine, the media remains committed to what we know is a highly partisan and divisive agenda that weakens our country and ends up helping our enemies. they could support more drilling here at home so we would be more energy independent but they aren't going to. they could dial back some of their anti-american that china is always sending back at us but they won't. they could acknowledge 74 million people who voted for donald trump are loyal americans, the arbitrator misset traitorous fascists. they could hold the biden administration accountable even if that means the g.o.p. might occasionally benefit, not going to happen. they could tell the truth about

china including how it influences u.s. policy -- don't hold your breath. all of these developments would make america stronger and thereby put us in a better position to help ukraine and defend democracy but no one really expects the media to abandon its radical hard left agenda. instead they're going to continue their civil war against america first and their culture war against everyone who believes in traditional morality and their propaganda war against the whole idea of the united states because like biden, like the democrats, they care more about those causes than they do about ukraine. just like biden himself the only thing they are willing to sacrifice here is america and that is the angle. joining me now is victor davis hanson, hoover institution senior fellow. your take on how this is proceeding. we have now learned today that

zelenskyy may be edging closer to some type of position that we could leave too we hope the ceasing of this invasion and the needless violence. but it doesn't seem like what the press corps or certainly the establishment in washington want at this point. >> he has a different constituency, he has 43 million people who are faced with a russian army and he has fought brilliantly and he's starting to achieve parity. advantageous negotiating position ten days ago and he's going to use it for the interest of his own people and he should if you can get a new deal. it's a tribute to his courage and his people. we talked about this administration, the middle class. you and i talked about the hypocrisy of our bicoastal elite. they put their kids in prep school against charter schools. they make fun of the wall, they have nancy pelosi and

mark zuckerberg have these big walls. when you are in a war or in a pandemic, the scab gets torn off and we have the wrong paradigm. these people are very cruel and they don't care. when biden says it's not his fault or pete buttigieg talks about electric charging stations, he's telling the guy down the 99 freeway who's driving 12 hours a day in a diesel truck, you should of learned coding. you're going to lose $200 a day -- that's no big deal. he's telling the farmer in california his nitrogen has tripled. he's saying you know what? is not my fault, it's your fault. they have this modern monetary theory, they print all this money, we have 7.5 inflation. they are telling this couple who have their life savings at 50,000, go speculate on the wall street market, go flip houses. we are sorry that your 1% interest if you can get that,

has just cost you about 7.5% of your life savings in one year. it's a real callousness. same thing with the border. we have this idea that the border is obsolete. they are telling people along the border we don't care how your schools are impacted, your fine. we don't care you have to wear a mask and get vaccinated and 2 million people don't. it's really revealing, i think we have the wrong paradigm. these are selfish, arrogant people who worship theory and abstraction and have no concern -- >> laura: they never suffer, that's the point. they never sacrifice, they won't move an inch off their green radicalism. it doesn't matter how many people suffer, they don't care. to your point that you made, the director of the national economic council is celebrating today the destruction of our energy industry, watch. >> the only viable path to energy independence for the

american economy is to reduce the energy intensity of our economy overall and ultimately to reduce it to zero and get ourselves to a position where we are no longer reliant on fossil fuels. that's a long-term project but what we are seeing today and the geopolitics of the economic pain should only reinforce our efforts to try to move there more quickly. >> laura: zero carbon -- i want everyone watching to know that guy who is willing to bankrupt the country is being hosted by the american enterprise institute in sea island georgia, that is where the think tank is taking our discourse on what to do with america. i wanted to throw that out there, what a nightmare he is. >> translate that, that means north dakota, alaska, texas, you're not going to produce any of the fuel but we are going to beg the narco state of venezuela and we are going to beg the theocracy and terrorist state of

iran ed we are going to bake vladimir putin and the royal saudi house, we are going to have them pump the dirty oil that we won't pump and it's going to make us safer. all we are doing is empowering people who don't particularly like america and we are telling people who do like america you can't help us. it's insane, it's nihilistic. i don't know what the logic is other than its destructive. it's destroying the middle class here and it's making us vulnerable and our enemies are delighted about it and he thinks this is good to be dependent on these illiberal regimes for our survival? >> laura: so-called conservative think tank, corporations send hundreds of thousands of dollars to every year. so-called conservative think tanks are hosting that this weekend in georgia at their big soiree, that is what their idea of the future -- good luck,

we'll and see how that works at the polls. the biden administration busy propping up and protecting china, who is doing this and why? according to politico the treasury and commerce department are derailing a national security council proposal to restrict u.s. financing of chinese tech companies. the departments argue that the new rules would dramatically reduce new u.s. business in china and put american firms at a competitive disadvantage to european and asian banks that will continue to access the world's second-largest economy. what is going on here? janet yellen thinks we should allow u.s. banks to support china's tech industry -- she is our treasury secretary. it's despicable and it's anti-american. joining me now is gordon chang, senior fellow, you called this a long time ago. janet yellen is supposed to look out for american interests and

our treasury department but who keeps benefiting from these policies most? >> china of course, that is the same china in may of 2019 declared a people's war on the united states. that's the same china that sells fentanyl into the united states as a matter of communist party policy. that is the china that deliberately spreads coronavirus beyond its borders. if we are supposed to fund these chinese tech companies? this is insane because we are helping develop the tech that china's military wants to use to kill americans. >> laura: the other significant thing is all the money that we are spending in china, $11 billion trade deficit just in the month of january we just learned earlier today, all that money ends up helping to prop up russia and the war in ukraine. it's a crazy, insane deal.

literally funding indirectly the slaughter of the ukrainian people, we are indirectly funding that. i hope people understand what i'm saying out there. >> biden is rescuing china and china is rescuing russia and ukraine, it's so clear periods be what i want to play something the cia director william burns told lawmakers today, watch this. >> i think president xi and the chinese leadership are unsettled by what they see in ukraine. they did not anticipate the significant difficulties the russians were going to run into. i think they are unsettled by the reputational damage that can come by their close association with president putin. i think they are unsettled by the way in which vladimir putin has driven europeans and americans much closer together. >> laura: gordon! is this actually our cia director? he thinks the ccp is unsettled? how are they unsettled in any way, shape, or form by what is

happening? >> this is part of a broader narrative that china is trying to distance itself from russia so we should be supporting the chinese. this is so wrong. if china was unsettled to borrow the word, they would stop buying russian commodities. the oil, the gas, the wheat, the coal. they wouldn't be trying to buy these russian companies to be a short-term rescue of vladimir putin. this is a political class that has an unbreakable view that china is the savior of the world or at least that we have to obey china, this is just -- what do you say? >> laura: breathtaking ignorance or purposeful venality. neither is good, they are both bad. gordon, you're good, thank you for joining us. still ahead, a report about how russian recon groups might have already started the offensive on kyiv.

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says more than 2 million have left the country altogether, that's 5% of the country's population to go weeks after the russian invasion started. today ukraine's second-largest city kharkiv which is about the size of dallas or san diego another russian general was reportedly killed in battle. many of the residents have fled the violence. earlier today i spoke to someone who owns a coffee shop, she said a russian missile destroyed it. last night she slept on the floor of the church with her mother. >> your friends at your home and your job and your business, your money, everything. >> tonight at the pentagon says a russian recon team is outside the capital of kyiv, probing inside the city, clearly probing those defenses. >> laura: now from the horror that is developing inside the

capital of ukraine to the carnage in the capital of california. a story that received scant attention last week, a man named david mora shot and killed three daughters and their chaperone at a sacramento church before turning the gun on himself. he was out on bail after being arrested five days earlier for drunk driving and assaulting an officer. here is the worst part. he was in the u.s. illegally. why wasn't he apprehended by ice and deported? because california's sanctuary laws barred local authorities from handing him over or even communicating with i.c.e. agents after the arrest. as we rushed a to green light $14 billion for help to the ukrainians, we first must ask questions about how we are protecting our own citizens. joining me now is scott jones, chairman of sacramento county.

it's heartbreaking, infuriating, predictable, we have done these stories before but i think there is so much suffering overseas we can't avoid discussing what is happening right here in the united states. how much longer can californians put up with this? >> you pointed out in your earlier segments, we should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. i think we can do that as a nation. this is a battle i have been fighting since 2014 when i have an officer killed and another officer killed by the same man, the same day by a person who had been removed from this country four times with no consequences, committing crimes every time he was here. i have been screaming this from the rooftop i have spoken in front of congress. this is the latest tragedy. the infuriating part of this and you alluded to it with sanctuary state law, i did what they were supposed to do when this person was in custody five days prior. they served a detainer saying we know where this guy is, we want to take custody of him but because of our sanctuary state

laws, the gel was unable to not only hold the person but communicate with ice in any way about his release. he's free to walk out the jail and free to kill those people four days later. >> laura: we have to remind everyone that the president of the united states supported these sanctuary policies when he was on the campaign trail, presumably he still supports them -- watch. >> vice president biden you oppose sanctuary cities as a presidential candidate in 2007. where do you stand now? should undocumented immigrants arrested by local police be turned over to immigration officials? >> no. >> laura: sheriff jones, what is your message to president biden from sacramento tonight? >> there is more blood on the hands of california legislators and the federal government and the politicians that supported. there are number of things it could have contributed to this, tragedy in sacramento but there's only one thing that could have prevented it, if ice was allowed to have those

detainers honored and that is the only thing that would have ensured these three beautiful little girls and this innocent man weren't killed a few days after he got out of jail. >> laura: crime is out of control, so many parts of our country i have so many wonderful friends and family in california. everyone is really worried and upset about this. it takes political change on sheriff jones, thank you. now the covert centers flew into a tizzy after florida's surgeon general box the medical establishment on vaccinating otherwise healthy children. he's here to fire back, you won't want to miss his comments. don't go away. even in a little seedling. which, when turned into fuel, can help power a plane. at chevron's el segundo refinery, we're looking to turn plant-based oil into renewable gasoline, jet and diesel fuels.

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>> florida department of health is going to be the first state to officially recommend against the covid-19 vaccines for healthy children. >> for making that totally common sense and science-based announcement, florida surgeon general was viciously attacked by the usual covid fanatics and he joins me now. good to see you tonight. i want you to hear the white house's reaction to your announcement today, watch. >> we know the science, we know

the data and what works, deeply disturbing there are politicians peddling conspiracy theories out there and casting doubt on vaccinations when it is our best tool against the virus and test tool to prevent teenagers for being hospitalized. >> laura: you are a harvard educated doctor and she called you up politician peddling conspiracy theories, your reaction. >> i didn't know i was a politician or i was peddling conspiracy theories. all that time i thought i was asking an important question that i actually wish more doctors and public health officials would ask which is due the benefits of vaccinating healthy children for covid-19, many of whom already have covid, almost all of whom are at low risk -- to those benefits outweigh the risks? that's the important question.

>> laura: cnn trotted out a vaunted expert to refute your recommendation, watch this. >> that antiscience propaganda really is deadly. we know any covid infection can lead to long covid and as long as that is true, we need to be doing what is in our best interest to prevent all of the infections. >> laura: one little detail wrong, the vaccines we have seen don't necessarily prevent you from getting the virus, correct? or am i missing something? >> i'm going to break this down in a simple play. you're right. the media has been hysterical about our announcement and the argument that you hear is the vaccines and the covid vaccines in children reduce the risk of hospitalization. we are not denying that. that's not the point that we are discussing. it's part of the question that really should be asked which is

it's not about whether or not it reduces risk of hospitalization, the question about is if it's the right decision for the patient in front of you. the considerations for that include the fact that as i mentioned earlier, a lot of these children -- most of the children based on cdc data have already had covid-19. do any data indicate that children who have had covid-19 who are healthy have any clinical benefit from covid-19 vaccination? there is no data that shows that. >> laura: i want to bring up another issue which is this 38 page report that the children's health defense group has discussed because they say they have documents from pfizer and the fda on the vaccine itself, they were forced to release a 38 page report including the documents that features -- it includes 1291 different adverse

events from vaccination. we reached out to pfizer confirming the issue with these documents, we haven't heard back. the medical establishment has been downplaying the negative side effects from covid vaccines come everything from kidneys, brain stem's, thrombosis, party events. neonatal death, there are all sorts of negative side effects in this report and nobody wants to talk about them. >> i think it's frankly because we have had so much science that instead of staying in a scientific lien it's enter the propaganda lane. whatever is good, we will talk about, whatever is not so good we will ignore. we are not going to do that in florida. the data are the data, show me the data that show the benefits outweigh the risks and healthy

children and we will happily revise our policy. those data don't exist because it is a big question mark for healthy children. people who say you still should do it need to ask themselves what is their objective? our objective is to do the best we can for the children in florida. >> laura: i think that is admirable and correct. questions always arise when there is a lack of transparency. why didn't pfizer put this information out initially? why didn't china come clean on their role and all the documents and data early on. these are serious questions and we still don't have answers. thank you so much, great to see you. say everything is bigger in texas -- is that include bidens gaffes? may be. the last bite explains.

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