verge of a continental war. >> harris: samaritan's purse doing so much. we'll get the information up across all of our social pages across the screens of fox news so people can give and we'll give other people the options for red cross and all of that. you are doing your part. god bless you and samaritan's purse. thank you for watching "the faulkner focus". "outnumbered" is after the break. >> vladimir putin's attack as he seems to be targeting babies commit the most vulnerable among us, after russian air strike apparently destroyed children's hospital in mariupol, as explosions rock other ukrainian cities despite promises of cease-fire, leaving millions drop in dire conditions. all why putin's troops close in

on kyiv. also joining us as dagen mcdowell and this is "outnumbered." the new video is heart-wrenching. what is left of the children's hospital maternity ward after ukrainian officials say russian forces dropped several bombs. women and children now feared dead. take a look at the building. shades of green and yellow, you can imagine the mothers in ukraine arriving come expecting to bring new life for so many years. now reduced to rubble. the city's mayor describe the damage as colossal. volodymyr zelenskyy saying this was deliberately bombed and now children are under the wreckage. this is video from inside the hospital. if you like a close look you can see a breast milk pump, a pink changing table, and now images of a war-torn country. tweeted by

president volodymyr zelenskyy, calling it an atrocity. you can see walls blown out, windows shattered, beds and cots torn apart. the video showed what appears to be that baby changing table we just mentioned. zelenskyy is calling on world leaders to take action. direct strikes out the maternity hospital, people and children are under the wreckage, an atrocity. how much longer will the world be accomplice to ignoring terror? close the sky right now and stop the killing. you have power but you seem to be losing humanity. trey tingst's life and kyiv. trey? >> candidate, we are following the latest out of mariupol. there was a russian strike targeting best maternity hospital and there are feared casualties at this hour as rescue workers looked through the debris. take a look at this video. you see the level of destruction, the people around this area would not be able to survive a direct strike like this.

it's the latest in a series of attacks against this critical city in the south with a population of around 400,000 people. were getting some more information from the deputy mayor of mariupol, he explains what the city has seen the last couple of days. he says more than a thousand people have been killed since the russian invasion began in the city alone. adding 47 people were buried in a mass grave. he says there is no water, no heat, no gas, residents have been melting snow to drink. he calls it medieval. he calls it as these evacuations continue. the evacuation convoys are being targeted by russian forces as those troops have laid landmines along the route spirits while the russians claim they are allowing people today to evaluate from five different cities, the reality on the ground is far different. they are targeting these innocent people. it comes amid other concerning development in the northern part of this country has the chernobyl nuclear plant just two hours north of kyiv.

emergency generators are on but the main power is turned off. one ukrainian member of parliament calls this very dangerous situation. adding if russia does not cease-fire they expect radiation leaks. ukraine's nuclear power operator added that wind could carry radioactive substances to other parts of europe. the universal atomic energy agency is confirming the chernobyl is no longer transferring data but they see no critical act of safety at this point. the ukrainian people continued to prepare for what could be even bloodier days ahead. take a look. >> we are going to fight for our country. we are going to fight fair values. it's necessary for all of us. >> ukrainians are working around the clock to fortify the capital of kyiv. they are putting sandbags and the roads and using hedgehogs to block the streets up ahead of a possible russian advance. >> russians and kyiv are welding metal barricades called hedgehogs. they're making 40 of them each type of plan to increase

production as russian tanks and trucks -- you can see these working altogether. it was as some of them didn't know how to work with steel and we taught them. everyone ain't kyiv is doing what they can. this is home for nearly 3 million people. >> i'm living here starting from seven years old, i grew up here and got married here. it will stand until the end. >> following that interview we saw ukraine's air defense system active over this capital city beer they've been trying to shoot down russian planes that continue to strike kyiv from the air as ground forces move in. back to you. >> trey, going back to the maternity hospital we saw in mariupol, the ukrainian foreign minister says there are 3,000 newborn children at mariupol, that city under siege now. you have any indication if there's any children under the rubble?

we know zelenskyy said that, are there rescue efforts underway? >> we know there are rescue efforts underway. we cannot independently confirm the numbers about the amount of children in this city. what we can confirm is that russian forces have cut it off from the outside world. citizens they are trapped, only 2-3000 each day are able to get out on these very dangerous evacuation routes. there are hundreds of thousands who are trying to leave. the situation is dire without water, food, power people could literally starve to death as density remains under siege at this hour. >> trey, it is dagen mcdowell, what about the danger you talk about the chernobyl nuclear plant, but then the earlier plant that was taken over by russian forces. there is grave concern around the globe that there could possibly be a nuclear accident at some point.

again the iaea waving people off off chernobyl right now, but if there is any cut the power and cooling is lost in sub ariza, that's a nuclear disaster potentially. >> welcome of the entire country in the world is on edge over this. they see how close to fighting is getting to these critical nuclear facilities. it's part of the reason ukrainians are doubling down on this call to close the airspace over the country. they realize as the fog of war continues, it's difficult to always see where these russian forces are. then very quickly things escalate where you have shells landing on i nuclear facility. while the southern city thoughts all this fighting earlier in the week wasn't directly hit, and administrative building very close to the reactors took fire. it gives you a sense of just how close we are to really nuclear disaster. the power is also another critical part of the story is officials at chernobyl are noting. they have about 48 hours to go

with these generators. if there is no solution during that time, then you reach that critical phase. the iaea says there is no concern the safety living for people around this area it could quickly escalate as part of the reason the international community is watching so closely. >> going back to the threats of starvation they are, we understand the weather is particular cold there this week. with today being the cultist. do we have any type of estimation or time frame that those who remain behind are under for when the threat of starvation would potentially become fatal for those hundreds of thousands of people left? >> we don't know exactly but we do know that supply lines are currently cut to a number of critical population centers across the country. people are able to go out to get the supplies they needed for a few days, but no one anticipated that the cities would be under siege like this. we've reached the end of the second week for this invasion into ukraine, so these

population centers, especially in the south were russian forces have moved through quickly, are cut off. it is a big concern not only for that area but also the capital of kyiv. we saw it today, people going to as any store that still up and gathering his many supplies as they could. we were in the northern part of the city where we saw air defenses active and people were lining up at shopping centers trying to fill their bags with goods, because they understand as russian forces push forward with that ground offensive, they may be trapped. what supply lines no longer operating in many parts of this country, you have not only the food and water situation, but also, obviously, living amid the russians shelling russians showing. >> thank you so much, trey, stay safe. harris, it's devastating when you look at that hospital. yesterday we talked about a mother and her two kids who were killed. now reports suggest we know who that mother was, her name is tatyana. her children, elyse and nikita. now her husband on the way to

kyiv to try and bury his family. he wrote this on facebook. he took them all, tanda could make it, what is this for me? i'm next. i lost my wacom i must see one last time. forgive me i didn't cover you. it's heartbreak after heartbreak. >> the human elements of tragedy that we do not normally see. this is war in 22. and a blessing. i tried to look for a blessing in all of this and say when you are allowed to see something, you cannot say you didn't see it. you can't pretend it's not happening. so what do we do? i think at this point it's really going to take a coming together. i mentioned this earlier to an oil executive who i know you know well from the fox business channel, mike summers. we need operational warp speed on this now. we need to be energy independent to send a huge message to putin that we are right there with you in real time.

we are can temporarily down my contemporaneously be going to be a pain in yours. but the killing has to stop. like we do have leverage in all of this. i just don't know if we are using it all. general kellogg last hour said there are ways with force, pull and wanting to send those miggs, he's got a listen to the general, the president. i think this is interesting. moments ago we listened life to secretary of state blinken out the u.k. representation, they were caught holding a bilateral joint news conference brother, the proposal to create humanitarian corridors leading to belarusian blend is absurd. it's offensive to say that the ukrainian people should seek refuge -- he goes on to say it's a possibility and unacceptable for us to bring the sides together and expect them to work it out. a pressure only on one side. so let's show putin what the world can go, let's warp speed this thing and let's really get going on this. we are out of time.

lord knows from the stories you just mentioned and all those we are seeing, they are passed out of time. >> we are. and,, you mention humanitarian corridors but there's only's one of them functioning, there is supposed to be six. you look at the hospital, this is a maternity hospital that was deliberately chart dell make target appear not as if a russian missile went off course, it was deliberately targeted. your thoughts? >> i've seen this before. i've seen it and grows in the outcome i've seen it in aleppo. russian rules of engagement for their military allowed not just for indiscriminate targeting, but deliberate targeting of civilians. those are war crimes. an absolute violation of the law in armed conflict at that's the way the russians operate. they are trying to subdue the ukrainian population. i agree with everything you said. kudos to trey tingst and the rest of the fox news seen because the way we get out this first is by exposing what russia

is doing. second, we have to banff up the military and resistance to ukraine. as we pointed out it would've been great to have sent the miggs to ukraine back in april at the very latest when vladimir putin had 70,000 troops on the border. but time is wasting. we need more stingers and congratulate her down like javelins into the country. there are reports of children under the raw rubble and you said russian terms of engagement permit for this? >> we know this is the way that they operate. they don't have a no first use when it comes to tactical nuclear weapons. vladimir putin with polonium 210. we cannot mirror image here appear the russians do not operate the way we do. vladimir putin is taking this to the most ruthless extreme and is

escalating. there is no de-escalation of this part. >> he'll do anything so that he can say what he did -- even if it means standing on bodies and rebels and everything else, he wants to look like he has won. >> he does. would you make of this report, that in the next 24-96 hours key of could be targeted? dan? >> yes. i think that is certainly very likely. we've seen a lot of targeting from russian ground forces, artillery, rockets. they are trying to surround kyiv. they're trying to decapitate ukraine's government. there are targeting ukraine's president zelensky. there's also a lot of work for us to do in the intelligence to share in the ukraine tactical intelligence on the threats to russian troop movement. also this is why vladimir putin is trying to censor all of the

russian news. it's like back to the ussr. their economy is greater, there is mass violation of human rights inside russia the likes of which we haven't seen since the days of the soviet union, and we need to get the message out to russian citizens so they can understand what their government is doing not just ukrainians, but those russian soldiers on this mission to dine ukraine. >> that's exactly right. emily i know that we are talking earlier that that defining image we saw of the footage in the shelling that the life of tatiana and her two children, it really tugs at your heart, emily. >> date and i'm sure i speak to all americans when i say that. i have to point out when i wanted to emphasize was the reason he stayed behind because he was caring for her ailing mother. the population that has remained disproportionately reflects

those, the infirm, the elderly, the special needs, the young. those are the multiple children in a family we see that. the reason she stayed behind i think is a poignant reminder that those who haven't evacuated is because they couldn't for one reason or another that is rooted in love for family member or the inability to do so. discussing the emphasis on the special needs left behind his charity is trying to help but there are so many stories like that of my heart just breaks for those who are currently left behind and my prayers go out for all that or how they are. i agree with dan, our humanitarian aid needs to be ramped up. the globe is here for those behind and we support and pray for them. >> can i just add one thing to emphasize what dan is talking about. you go bac and read about a grozny attraction.

you go back and read about aleppo, syria. the world knew this was going to happen. you go back and read stories that were -- where here is some of the headlines. russia forces slaughtering chechnya and syria. bombed hospital, schools, civilian apartment. it looks like reducing ukraine to rubble. then you look back just a year ago and dan mentioned that we had a shipment of arms that was going to ukraine and this was right after putin started moving troops to the order. we held up a second shipment of arms. how did we not know that this

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>> president biden is not taking

any responsibility for record high gas prices, putting all of the blame on vladimir putin and some on oil companies. we'll get to that. after he announced the u.s. will cut off oil and energy imports from russia. meanwhile "the wall street journal" is reporting the leaders of saudi arabia and the united arab emirates would not come to the phone when biden tried to call them to talk about boosting oil exports. by the way, reports are they didn't take -- jacqui heinrich's life in the north lawn with the latest. jackie? >> hey, harris, according to "the wall street journal" the white house unsuccessfully tried to arrange calls with -- that evidently did not work out. national security council is now rejecting this report and with some very specific language. the national security council said this is a mischaracterization.

it does not reflect reality. there are no rebuffed calls period. president biden -- they discussed a wide range of issues in our affirmative bilateral agenda peer there have been no requests for calls and start conversation. likewise with you i either have been no issues on the call and president biden looks forward to speaking with the crown prince soon. beyond that were not going to get into private diplomatic matters. again, the basic premise of the article is just wrong. no rebuffed called and no issues have been called. interesting language there. in the meantime the president is under pressure to ramp up domestic production while the white house's claim that oil producers are already sitting under restarting the keystone prices pipeline wouldn't solve the problem. john garamendi echoed but just a few moments ago with us. >> the united states has increased its petroleum production to the highest level ever.

that is what is happening today. all across the united states. we get oil from many places. 2% of our oil comes from russia. no big deal. it's gone. we don't need the keys doing pipeline to solve this problem. speak of the white house is also looking to venezuela and iran to help bridge that gap. that is being met with bipartisan pushback. dick durbin called it a deal with the devil and republican committee released a belt the block just that, harris. >> jacqui heinrich, thank you very much. let's get into -- if we can come of the wording of this. because having been press secretary in the white house, you would know all about how you shape things. so when rebuffed and when you hear all of that -- by the way, the last time president biden had a meeting with king's alimony was february 9th. at the very least, may be in the 15 days they might have spoken but not so. >> right. i guess my question would be if there were no requests for a

call with saudi arabia, why not? we are in the middle of a crisis. i mean it's really kind of news if you didn't didn't lose if he didn't because you should be making calls to these regional leaders around the world and not letting putin shape the narrative. "the wall street journal" in no uncertain terms both prince mohammed and sheikh mohammed took calls from russian president vladimir put in last week after declining to speak with mr. biden. they later spoke with ukraine's president. released the call logs. who has he been taught going to? >> you have time to call and beg for oil from venezuela, you have time to talk about doing a deal with iran and saudi arabia, they don't talk to saudi arabia? look, i want to know, that's all. >> is it sadistic or idiotic. either or, they are antagonizing

and attacking our energy sector when we are facing, as a world, a global energy crisis. he continues to attack and -- i call them the castigate her in chief and he cuts off russian imports, but then is dell trying to crush energy production in the united states. that's an anti-west pro putin stance. putin still has oil coming onto the world market. the price is skyrocketed. he still being enriched by our policies. vladimir putin one diff gone into ukraine if we hadn't put the hammer down on our energy sector from day one. i'm not even talking about the keystone pipeline i'm talk about gas, natural gas and oil permits. i'm talking about there hasn't been one onshore lease sale and they want to argue about drilling permits when they show a fundamental understanding of

how oil and natural gas come out of the ground. they are siding with putin year ago, that's why gas prices are up. when you're an ideologue you don't live in reality and you don't have any connection to the pain and suffering that people feel from skyrocketing gas prices. there are still talking about electric vehicles. i guess that's what they want. i dare them -- if they really want people driving the election vehicle, then put on a $2 gas tax. step up and have the temerity to do that but they don't. it's shameful the way they are treating people. and garamendi from california -- california's average price is way over $5 of a gallon. he's like were down, no one at done. baby you are because good luck getting reelected if that's how you talk to your constituents were struggling to make ends meet. >> we have some breaking news and we want to focus in on the

new details of the bombing of a children's hospital in mariupol. the regional governor announces 17 people have been wounded in that attack, including women in labor. in labor. according to reuters the governor says strike was carried out during an agreed-upon cease-fire that was meant to allow the evacuation of civilians from the southern city. dan hoffman, i know there are no words to talk about the evil that is being perpetrated. some will say will this is war. what do you say to those moms and the children under the rubble that we've been told may not make it out alive. i can barely say it. dan? >> yeah, i have to tell you i think about this a lot. i think our elected officials have to be asking themselves if they put their heads to the pillow at night did we do

enough? did we do enough since russia met those trips on the border? we had a rolling twitter feed describing the classifying intelligence and describing russian's plans for an invasion. we do enough not only to highlight the alarm bells about the invasion, but what about the follow along and what about providing ukraine with the assistance they needed to make it clear to vladimir putin that an invasion would be prohibitively costly to him in terms of spilled blood and treasure? i would argue that we didn't do that. that weighs on my conscious and it should weigh on the conscious of our elected officials as well. >> along that vein, the next question is so was this preventable? that dovetails with the conversation we were having a moment ago and the reaction by the middle eastern leaders who are saying that these are officials from saudi united arab riots who sing our relationship is deteriorated under the biden administration specifically

because of his lukewarm reaction to the threat of iran. we have definitely not seen in this administration, they specifically said they've outlined certain things they are looking forward this administration. among them is help within the human civil war. it's not just a couple other things like protecting these are real concerns about global impact that they see and say that biden did not step up so when we look at those smoldering fires throughout the globe, how many of them will become an incendiary situation like what we are looking at and how many of those will be preventable because our administrations at a lukewarm response and reaction to such significant global developments? >> want to go back to dan

hoffman, i won't understand what can do covertly. general keane has been talking to me about that. dan, if we are not doing it yet -- we don't have to do going to detail because that will not benefit the word covert -- but when you say have we done enough, are we doing enough? >> right. so as far as the intelligence community's concern is a couple things that we need to be doing. first is provision of tactical intelligence, that is where the russian military is moving and providing that intelligence to the government of ukraine, keeping president zielinski alive. strategic intelligence on russians plan and intelligence, that's also important. that intelligent follow us slow down a bit but we have it back on track. there is nothing like -- is not like fine wine getting better with age, he has to share that intelligence as fast as he can possibly get up.

then the intelligence community needs to continue to work hard to expose all of these war crimes. our media is doing a fantastic job. the intelligence community -- as for another thing you can do -- there's a lot of other options. but if past is prologue i think there will be very hesitant to take that route. >> nine did you catch that? it's not like fine wine you have to give it to them and let them use. >> can i follow up on something? our focus seems to have been attacking via sanctions the russian economy. you've seen virtually, not all, but virtually every major western brand pull out of russia. but we are still not pumping enough oil here because of the biden administration. we are continuing to an order to vladimir putin. blood money is going into his hands. but what's going on in the country of russia? have let have any impact at all

on putin's war and these atrocities on and in ukraine? >> i think that will have an impact over time. that's why we are seeing increased censorship and repression of russian citizens from vladimir putin. but president zelenskyy is measuring ukraine's independence may be in terms of hours or days, maybe weeks. he doesn't have the time for economic sanctions to take hold. that's why the threat of sanctions, that the biden administration said they would sanction russia if they invite a couple that was never an deterrent. not because of some military capability they have come about because they're functional democracy driving for commercial ties to the west. that's what scares vladimir putin the most. economic sanctions weren't going to deter him, we will crater russia's economy and all of those russians like to send their schools to the west and kids to school in the west and vacation on their yachts.

in europe and things, that will not be open to them anymore. were not going to stop the carnage that is taking place in ukraine right now. >> can i just add one quick thing? we as a world have not included energy transactions in the financial segments. we have not done that now. no private industry around the globe is taking that in their own hands and they are trying to cut off oil coming out of russia. >> he said look, we would talk off so you don't have to go to russia or anybody else here are those companies topped off our oil supplies last week so we actually couldn't get an answer out of the department of energy. but mike's monomers with the petroleum institute said yeah we started popping up so that we wouldn't have to buy their oil as early as last week before biden even made his announcement. our market is getting things. >> so it's the vilified but

biden administration falling short. >> dan hoffman, you are truly a number today. if a lot of people around you horgan ask you questions. you are the expert. let's keep it going. >> i just want to go back to one of the things you read. i'm watching you describe the images we saw in the hospital. you and i both kind of paused. >> i could barely speak it. >> i have a 2-year-old. you have children. it's one of the hardest things when you're going through labor. i just go back to something emily said about the most vulnerable being left behind. your nine months pregnant, about to have a baby. cars aren't getting out of the country. at a certain point you have to get out and walk. we read about a woman walking 2. you cannot walk when you're pregnant nine months and peered many of these women didn't have a choice but to stay and prayed to god that the evil monster did

not attack but he did. it's trying to hear, it breaks my heart, harris. think about that. women in labor, then all of a sudden you're struck. >> dan comeau one last thing before we move on to the next, just dealing with this breaking news right now. rules of engagement. they are different. for the military obviously then they would be fired putin. with the rules of engagement for nato and our allies start to look like a traditional response to this? i know that you can never take nukes off the table, but come on. he's already in chernobyl. he's cut off the cooling devices for a nuclear plant plant, what is the tipping point? do we pray about this or is there some thing else that we can do to augment that? >> so here's a couple of things that we need to be doing. there is a tipping point here, but it's not just for us commits

for the russian military. at what point to the russian soldiers and their commanders say we are not going to take orders from the kgb kite in the kremlin anymore to commit atrocities against innocent civilians. at that point, potentially at least, the elite around vladimir putin, and it's three guys. it's his minister of defense, his director of the fsp, and as national security advisor. at some point they recognize where their constituents are coming from and is decide we just can't carry on with this war. were going to blame it on vladimir putin and step back. we haven't reached that point yet. but what is key for the united states as far as the department of defense and state department and others who engage with russians come i can tell you i did a lot of that over the course of my career. he might be surprised, but i've spoken to a lot of russian intelligence officers in official channels. we have to be reminding the russians that this is in them, this is putin's war and they need to stop it now. that is what i would like to hear from president biden, get

up on teddy roosevelt bully pulpit and speak to the russian people and tell him that it is putin's war and tried to induce them to stop it. >> fascinating to hear you say that as we saw president zelensky do something similar according to the business insider and other two that his he has offered russian mothers a chance to come and pick up the remains of their russian children, who are fighting the soldiers who, some of them have been told they might be training, have lost their lives. i mean that is the type of one-on-one that you are talking about. it is a fascinating strategy. russia already responding. kremlin spokesperson now is telling rotors for comment on reported bombings had russian forces do not fire on civilian targets. that maternity hospital? you saw it, right? i mean something fired on it. something russian fired on it. they're the only ones with the mic to do that right now.

emily? >> yeah, degen come i wanted to ask you and your mentioning the sanctions on the energy transactions -- so we know that russia is currently the most sanctioned country in the globe, right? currently 5,532, over 2,700 since the invasion began. and we have apparently a lot more sanctions to do floating around currently the white house and capitol hill, include these three enduring the ability to use cryptocurrencies, suspending or organizing moscow come or broadening the restrictions on estimates and their economy. i wanted to ask you which of those would work. we've talked about the pace that any type of sanction is currently too slow. we talked about that her troll and financial currently doesn't close enclosed russia reno. as our government discusses these additional options, which of the american people be waiting for?

what if these are important it would have a more decisive impact? >> to dan's point, none of it would be fast enough to stop the atrocities that we are witnessing in real time in this moment in the ukraine. what could help, and we haven't been able to do it, we cut off russian oil here, it's a very small amount, russian refined product as well. we, the united states, and make up for that. but europe is so reliant on russia and the chancellor of germany has made it clear that we can't cut off our energy supplies coming out of russia. coal and gas coming into europe. so the more we produce -- that is why the better off the world is. that is what i don't understand

the attacks on our own energy sector when what we do here helps the rest of the world get off, be left real less reliant on putin's energy. but all of this is a long-term strategy. it's not short-term necessarily? so in the next few days, to dan's point about how long ukraine can continue to fight the forces there, not a lot of it adds up. >> dan, i come back to you. the images we see on our screen, some of them are a mix of the breaking news that is just coming. and what we knew about an hour before was then maternity hospital is been had. what we have now are the details and the lives that while some of them they haven't even found. they are saying there are children and adults underneath the rubble, but several people they found our wounded, some of

the moms in labor were being told about now in labor when the hospital was hit by russian forces. the details are coming in, but to hear that statement from the russian government denying the fact that it is hitting civilian targets, what are the options here. they are like the worst at aiming in the history of the planet of people with bombs and missiles and all the like, or this is on purpose. it's pretty binary unless there is something we are missing. why would they even say such a thing? it is so ludicrous. >> we are not missing anything. it is straight out of the kgb playbook. i would contrast that with president zelinski. well vladimir putin is sitting 25 meters away from his national security council team, president zelensky is hugging his defense minister and a bunker over a meal with his key advisors. zelenskyy has mobilized the west.

he has awakened democracies of the west out of their post-cold war slumber and gotten military aid, the likes of which he could've ever expected. he wants more and he should want more. the stark images -- they are tragic, they are important and they are important in their own right, but it's also important how it comment on them and interpret them. that is where president zelensky's role is so critical as one of the russians of made it to kill him. >> do you believe putin when he has reportedly offered him a chance to be a reformed leader. should he let him take over? part of all the demands that he's put forward for a while he ght stop fighting, that is among them as far as we know. what do you of it? >> that is subterfuge. remember that vladimir putin's foreign minister was telling us there would be no invasion until there was an invasion. so i'm sorry to say that you

really can't trust what vladimir putin and his cronies say. what we can trust our our own eyes. we can see in rebeccah and other places the devastation that russia is causing. that is why peace negotiations right now at this point will happen. the russians are using them frankly to try to attack the morale of those brave ukrainians who are fighting for freedom and liberty and democracy come everything that's in trying to in our own constitution. that is what the russians are using those negotiations for. >> if i could say, harris, you read the statement from a russian officials and we don't target civilians. i just did a real-time fact track of what we've covered over the past few days -- the red cross says they're trying to get aid into variable. >> they're all marked. and you're trying to bring aid to foreigners, 30,000 people in the city who are starving, who need water or melting snow and

drinking it as a last resort. you know a 6-year-old died of dehydration. we have reports that they've attacked kindergartens and orphanage store housing civilians. these are facts. you can pick the one after another after another, but they don't target civilians they say. really brush michael yesterday the u.n. commissioner for human rights comes out and now the number is great about 1,207 casualties killed. we can pick through this. we have fact on this. you can't deceive us russia, from the images we are seeing with our very own eyes. >> did you ever think, dagen, that we would be in a point. i know how hard the intelligence community and the military community, both of them work to get good sourcing on the ground, but did you ever think compelling receipts and evidence would be a social media? like look at where we are in this war. yet you have an all time

statement that by the way, as of four hours ago the criminal was still on twitter with a blue truck just to put it out there. right? you mean this whole thing is thing up before our eyes and how do you not look at that and say well it we do enough? the world saw escape score, they were right alongside of us watching it all happen too. >> and kudos to elon musk, who i think they are low orbit satellites that at least is trying to keep the internet on in ukraine. so the rest of the world can see what is going on there. and also not to always bring it back to energy, but i said a year ago when you intentionally drive down energy production in this country and you drive up the price, you have the power and transparency to vladimir putin, you embolden,

enrich, and empower pirates. vladimir putin. so as oil went up, history tells you that he attacks regions when oil is $90 a barrel or higher. you saw it in 2008 with georgia. you saw in 2014 with boudin annexing crimea. sonata outs as this was possibly going to happen, as policy here in the united states was driving up demand federal reserve and the fiscal policy on the energy policy with lowering supplies command oil was skyrocketing, and they didn't see this happening? and he's telling you by moving troops to ukraine almost as well it was a year ago. it was last march that you didn't see this happening? we waited and waited and didn't take any preemptive steps to stop this? i will just point out one thing. dan can talk about this but with

grozny and aleppo there was a practice called the double top. boudin forces would wait for the civilian volunteers like the red cross to show up and all victims out of the rubble, then they bombed the same sites i can to maximize casualties and carnage. >> end up all other countries it. the people are part of the second task. the second head. >> in the meantime vice president harris is en route to poland in our effort to rally americans nato allies in the face of putin's butchery in ukraine. , i'd like to talk to you about some journalists have described the fragile name nato politics of vice president harris has waited into with her landing there. part of it illustrated by this recent episode between poland and the plans that frankly

caught the u.s. by surprise. your thoughts? >> yeah, i was surprised as well. because how are we so disconnected from one of our most important allies? you know they want to do what they can to support ukraine. they have 28 big 29's that they are ready to turn over to us so that we can transfer them to ukraine. our own dod says that's not gonna happen because of logistical concerns and contested airspace. i would like to revisit that. i'm surprised that we cannot do it. but just a surprise that we are not a one page with poland. our own senior officials are saying that they didn't -- they didn't consult with them. that's kind of surprising given the fact that we are no war there between ukraine and russia, you think we would be discussing these kinds of things a bit more and closer coordination. >> dan, let me ask you if you

have faith that vice president harris will indeed be successful out reassuring one of our nato allies that indeed, we are committed to their security amid their new founder or freshly concerns about russia's intentions with them. do you have faith in our vice president to succeed at that? >> well i'm rooting for the home team on this one. i would like as a cia at the water's edge for me -- and so i'm hoping that she can do that. thankful for the roughly 1 million ukrainian refugees they are resettling. talk to them, not just reassure them but talk to them about the justifiable concerns they have about nato members, especially the ones supporting the russia war effort. there is a lot of work to be done, once the visit is over will have a pretty clear if russia has achieved any of those goals. >> we have a horrific new joe's

hospital employees carrying in injured pregnant woman from the bombs out when you have a child you want to bring that new little baby, that new life into a world that is peaceful and prosperous and you want that little baby to have the best chance at life and i cannot imagine the circumstance and it reminds me how blessed we are in this country. my daughter is trying to put a show on for just the other day and sheefly saw fox and found sign ambridge and she looked at me and it melts my heart. this is what i worry about, my daughter seeing image. this woman is worried about bringing a baby into this world in a world turned country. we are so blessed here in america. >> two weeks ago it wasn't like that.

two weeks ago her hopes and dreams were very different. and dagan, i just know from traveling all over the world and doing all sorts of stories in war zones where people were dying by the thousands every day, that right before the war when you see a country like ukraine that has such a high population of children, that means they're medical, they are financial, they see stability to bring that much life onto the planet. when you tell me that out of 2000000 refugees million of them are children you say of the 40 million people that live in ukraine a high percentage of them compared to other places in the world it tells me they have faith in something that is going on with stability. remember, putin's vinegar were with them at least since 2017. they knew this was a potential.

and against those odds they continue. we see this on the african continent. two weeks because she could not have imagined being on that stretcher. putin took advantage of that. you don't think he knows. >> history tells us that he not only knows, but he targets those hospitals and those women and children intentionally and what is it's a war crime. where is the prosecution for war crime. i want to add one thing. i hear a lot about this, or i see a lot about this online then i see some of it. how dare americans be upset

about the record high gas prices when this is happening. you're not in that situation. americans have the ability, the intellectual ability to understand the difference, and the capability to separate their personal financial situation from these horrific events overseas. and we certainly have the moral and spiritual ability to hurt her these people and to at least pray for peace and solace and safety for all these women and children and the men who are fighting. so to castigate and criticize americans for being upset about one thing and sing at least you not that, i just think that is the lowest of the low. i've seen it from a surprising amount of people. >> that is really wise words. i wanted to touch on something

that you said, you do this a lot. you say the names of people when we learn them. look, sometimes all you have left our prayers. they are powerful too. >> exactly. see the names. we may or may not run this person's name but we should. we set it at the beginning of this program, tatyana, elise, nokia, the two children who died trying to flee this war zone. say their names and save them loudly. emily comeau do you think when you see the picture? >> in the position of what i think is a strawberry blanket that she was laying on, or a watermelon or something, it's such l or whimsy. and just to see around not coming in to see her surrounded

by these angels among us who are fighting their own threats against that backdrop of this bombed out maternity ward, i just echo you all in the absolute tragedy that should be the most precious moment of her life. and the miracle that is always a birth. we use keep saying this is war. but this is an unprovoked invasion. the war crime was this armed invasion of a sovereign nation state. people who throw around words like disputed territory, that's not what this was. this was a sovereign nation and those are humans that are now being killed and giving birth under these circumstances. the tragedy just cannot be overstated. to dagen's point, the will of the american people has been one of prayers and support, and what

can we do? our administration continues to ignore it and if there is such a disconnect between decisions and policies and hearing the will of us that needs help in some way. if we present this in some way diplomatically, i don't know where that goes. but what i do know is that my heart breaks when i see that and i know every americans heart does as well. >> absolutely. he just cannot help but look at these images and i think that putin is trying to terrorize the ukrainians into submission beer that's face the facts here, he is fighting a very hard battle. at least 20 russian aircraft have been shot down pair that is likely the most shot down since the balkan war in 1982. these seem to be unbreakable people's spirits risen to the moment. but putin, is he trying to break the spirit? >> that's exactly what he is trying to do. he doesn't have the troops. i can tell you, but i served three years in war zones in close partnership with the u.s.

military and dealt with insurgencies. follow me up wouldn't does not have the troops to deal with an insurgency, and guerrilla war in ukraine. so his only option is to make it look like scorched-earth. one of the things we would do is we would map out our adversary terrain so that we would know where the critical infrastructure wasn't where the civilians were located. we tried the best that we possibly could to be as certain as we could and the strikes that our military toe, that we were not risking civilian casualties. the russians operate in the exact opposite manner, that is what we are seeing. i fear the darkest days are ahead of us because vladimir pruden used to be playing chess, he's now playing poker right now when he went in with a pretty bad hand. he's going to be ever more dangerous i think to the ukrainian population. >> like russian roulette and he has

breaking images this hour of the hospital that was hit with that maternity ward and the details that have come for the really helped us to bring all of this closer to our hearts. if that were needed for anybody, hearing -- you touched mine. thank you for watching "america reports" is now. >> and now this square here in kharkiv is completely destroyed because of the russian bombardment. >> we are running out of food, water, so one way or the other, if the bombing -- something would have killed us. >> it's a panic, it's a panic in ukraine, so everyone wants to save their lives. >> sandra: those are the words of