moment when their hospital is bombed. so the hospital is destroyed. this is the only hospital covering the needs of all of the babies in this area. not only this city but the area. >> neil: all right. >> it's just terrifying. >> neil: that's a lot worse and greater number than we thought. i believe your numbers. here's "the five." ♪ ♪ >> hello, everyone, i'm dana perino along with judge jeanine pirro, greg gutfeld, jesse watters. it is 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> dana: horrific new images coming out of ukraine that we must warn you are very hard to watch. carnage at a maternity hospital after it was hit by a russian air strike with babies and mothers inside. ukraine accusing russia of intentionally targeting this building.

officials say at least 70 people were injured in the blast. president zelensky called the attack and atrocity and saying children are buried in the rubble. mike shipman is in ukraine, hi, mike. >> that is the development we've been watching in horror as civilian casualties pile up. the unthinkable has happened with this maternity ward being struck by russian munition resulting in 17 injuries, still rubble there and also produced the images of a woman apparently in labor injured in this last being hauled away from a hospital. another image you can see is a big crater outside of the hospital from the impact of the blast. it has been under siege really since the start of the invasion. there is not access to food, not access to water in that town. several attempts at humanitarian cease-fires to let the civilian population to get a break have fallen apart quite quickly, with ukrainians saying the russians are targeting the civilian population, trying to flee this

town. as it relates specifically to this maternity hospital, a kremlin spokesperson was asked. he said simply, we don't target civilians. if they are not targeting civilians and if this was a dummy munition and not a munition you can aim, certainly there is a callous disregard for injuries to civilians as we have seen time and time again since this invasion began. dana, guys? >> thank you so much. geraldo, one of the things that happened in the war in syria is russians bombed ultimately from the air 54 hospitals, four and one day, it's not out of the question that this might have happened there. >> geraldo: i am tortured, dana, by the fact that what happened in aleppo and what happened in chechnya didn't move me, didn't sicken me because i was not thinking of the victims of those bombs in human terms. i was thinking of them as the strategic enemy of peace.

and i feel very guilty about that. but when i see this. putting that aside to the extent that i, a, ever will be able to, seeing what putin did hear with this indiscriminate -- it isn't indiscriminate, it is intentional bombing of a maternity and children's hospital. you don't hit a building like that unless you aim for it. to see those images of the woman in labor and another one with a child hurt and another with the baby crying and the mother unable to comfort the child, it drove me to the point where i just say putin is a son of a bitch and i don't want to provoke him into nuclear war, but there must be a way to get those -- to ukraine in a creative way. if we could in world war ii on the precipice of war with hitler, if we could contrive a way to get our aircraft, despite

the neutrality act, over the border to canada so that the british could use them against the germans. if we could manage that scheme, there must be a way to do this. even if you have to take the damn things apart and ship them up in cartons, there must be a way. we can't let these people continue to be the victims of indiscriminate bombing. it doesn't matter how brave they are, it doesn't matter, all those foreign volunteers and the women with ak-47s and all the rest of it. they can't stand against a missile and a bomb. the skies are hell. >> jesse: i'm afraid mades are going to solve the problem at this point. you're going to have to do much more and i don't know if the west has an appetite for that. we are going to have to steel ourselves because this is just the beginning. they are going to lay siege to city after city, atrocity after atrocity, and it's going to be shot into our brains.

and the leaders of these western countries are going to have to decide. i don't even think a no-fly zone is going to stop the spirits are here is your choice, i don't think we are going in, but theyo destroy the russian economy. meaning they are going to have to stop all oil and gas to western europe. germany is going to have to say, sorry, we are going to have to maybe not turn the lights on for a little bit. they're going to have to just buy all the oil and liturgy they possibly can. they are going to have to find some oil and gas from maybe some former african colonies or something like that. that is the only way to stop putin. you have to obliterate the economy, obliterate the energy sector. i don't see any other way around it. he's not leaving ukraine. he's not saying okay, i will turn around the tanks. he's going to keep eating that

country limb from limb until he owns it or until he's deposed. in the question is how are we going to do that? >> dana: we see that, bill hemmer at the board and he shows you that the advances are encircling all over the cities, at least the eastern half of the country. >> greg: what jessie says is right. it's going to get worse. it's going to get really bad, we knew that. in putin's head it is supposed to be over quickly. now it is going to go on and on. the cia director says it has been a mess and we know this. he mistakenly thought that ukraine was weak in europe wouldn't amass a strong defense, which it had come and his economy could weather this. so far he is wrong which means he is going to get more desperate, which means he is going to have even less regard for civilian casualties and civilian innocent loss of life. he goes back to what both of you are saying and it's what we talked about yesterday. what do we do? we are presented with a choice and the obvious ukrainian desire is the no-fly zone, but if you

do that you shoot down a russian jet, then we are at war with russia. we might already be in a war with russia. but if we don't do that then this goes on indefinitely. then it raises the question, two weeks ago, do we want this as badly as putin does? if so, then we have to go all in because we are going to be looking at these come as you say about stealing, we are going to have to look at these horrible images every day because as long as we sit here on the sideline, the massacre will be prolonged. right? but there is a solution and it is something i was going to ask you about before the show but i figured i wanted to ask you here. we don't hear anything about attempted mediation. it never gets -- and i'm not talking about kamala harris. that is not a serious attempt. something where world leaders urgently meet with v8 and zelensky and they figure out a face-saving, small victory for putin because he can't afford to lose.

he's already a war criminal which means if he loses, he's dead. so they have to give them some kind of come as the director of national intelligence said, you've got to give this guy proper deference because he feels like he never got that from the west or from europe. so we have to give him a nice little, small victory. a face-saving off-ramp. we need to have some kind of mediation, to echo what jesse said, what else can you do except world war? right? >> dana: it's a great point and one thing putin the mind is the downfall of qaddafi and what happened to him and he sees that is something that was a personal embarrassment and an absolute atrocity and he is determined to make sure that never happens to him. then yesterday we talked also about, do you ask the chinese to help? is that the way? is that the only way? before i think they are -- >> greg: he and biden go

together. >> dana: we are looking at these images still, this is the maternity hospital. horrible. i don't even know what question to ask. >> judge jeanine: greg, i know what you're saying about mediation. although, it reminds me, as a prosecutor, for many years people would blame the victim. and we would say it was the victim's fault that she was raped, her skirt was too short. there was only one person at fault, and that is the rapist. we talk about proper deference. you may believe he needs that, putin needs that to save face. but when you are dealing with a man who is as wild as this man is, and i'm not going to say crazy because he's evil. crazy is an excuse. the man is evil, he's attacking hospitals where women are giving birth.

women are no more vulnerable than they are when they are giving birth, i know. it is the most vulnerable. you are as vulnerable as you will ever be, when you are giving birth. but the idea that we've got to figure out a way, proper deference to work it out. maybe we can. but he needs to be punished, he is a war criminal. let me just finish my thoughts. the problem is, you have to ask, what is the purpose of nato? is nato supposed to pack power when there is a bully out there? and when there is a bully who says, today, if you give them this, you are now triggering us. if you give them planes, you're going to trigger us. and if you give them, if you get rid of oil, you may trigger us. he can change the rule every minute of the day. do i have the answer? no, i don't have the answer, greg. maybe it's something where he wants eastern ukraine and maybe that is the way it should

happen. but my instincts, every fiber of my being says this man is an animal, he needs to be punished for the murders, for the decimation, for the 6-year-old who died of dehydration. for the lives that is been up been offended because he wants power. i have a lot of problem with the mediation concept but maybe that is what we need internationally. >> greg: if it's not that, then it's war. >> dana: this would be creative, i don't know if this would work, but zelensky said, i need to talk to putin. at this point he is the one who was rallying the world. maybe he does need to talk to putin. is that worth a shot? >> greg: yeah. >> dana: perhaps it is worth a shot. >> greg: kamala can get them together. >> dana: many refugees are fleeing ukraine but you can help, go to atrickross.org/fox forward. your donation will help them provide aid and resources. fox's doing its part, we are

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is she capable of comprehending the delicate foreign policy moment with the world consequences that she is entering into, jesse? >> jesse: [laughs] it's such a funny question. all right, it's insulting to send kamala harris at a time like this. she knows nothing about anything and we all know the outcome of the europeans know that, but who else are you going to send? so she's going to get there and they're going to ask her about the migs in the no fly zone and things she doesn't grasp and they are going to ask her to think on the fly and it's not going to go well and it's going to bring great shame and embarrassment to the united states of america. >> geraldo: i totally disagree with that. >> jesse: okay, geraldo. wouldn't be the first time. the other option is to make this a proxy war. how long could that last? that could last years. you could destroy ukraine, you

load the people up with weapons, you turn into vietnam. and that's the third option. that is the option that the u.s. and the western allies are pursuing. a proxy war. so that is not ending anytime soon. >> judge jeanine: but geraldo, i want you to listen to admiral kirby talking about this mixup with the migs in the misunderstanding. >> we do not support the transfer to the ukrainian air force at this time and therefore have no desire to see them in our custody either. we believe the best support ukrainian defenses providing the weapons and the systems they need most to defeat russian aggression. in particular antiarmor and air defense. >> judge jeanine: your response? >> geraldo: i want america to stop telling the truth in these press conferences. i don't think it gains anything to give full disclosure to the world about every step we are taking vis-a-vis the migs or any

other sensitive topic. i think admiral kirby is a good god, i've known him for a long time, i was in haiti with him in the earthquake of 2010 but for him to go down the list about the aircraft and so forth. i want to thoses delivered by any means necessary. in terms of vice president harris, though, this is the biggest day of her vice presidency. this is the most herculean task she's ever been assigned. it's time now for her to shake off the mantle of ineffectiveness and really put her tushy on the line. i want her to disappear tonight. i don't want her to go to the polls or the ukrainian -- i want her to disappear and go into western ukraine. so far it's safe. so far you don't have any assassination squads or so forth. you see the pictures, maybe she

doesn't have to go that far. i think it would be so symbolically powerful for the vice president of the united states to go into the beleaguered country, visit with those refugees and see the mamas and the babies, and what do you need, what can america do? poor thing, i'm so sorry, we will get these imac sell bastards >> judge jeanine: can she be successful at doing anything like that? or how about reassuring our allies? >> dana: it would be great if so. let's see. she hasn't arrived, she hasn't spoken yet. but another thing is she could set up for a disaster once again because on the border thing, that ended because she was asked, when are you going to the border? she laughed about it. she said we are going to put you in charge of the board but i'm only going to talk about root cause of these countries and i'm never going to be seen at or

heard from about the board appeared early this week, i know it is only wednesday but on monday, we asked general kirby on american newsroom that there are reports that there are holdups at the white house in getting these migs out. he said no, everything is fine. then pulling said surprise, we are going to send you the planes and you are going to send them. the americans were like, wait, that is not going to happen. i'm pretty sure kamala harris was supposed to go today so that she could say, isn't it great we got this all worked out? : deciding the planes. instead, because they were dragging their feet at the white house, this is just speculation on my part but good speculation i would say, now she's going there and they have a public dispute. what kind of diplomacy, teamwork is it where you have a dispute like this that spills out into the public with a smirk to geraldo's point, this is not a discussion we should be having with the world about how this all went down. but i think they are trying to force the white house's hand and she has to go and clean it up.

i don't know that it can be. >> greg: i wonder how her laugh translates in polish. >> geraldo: that's mean. >> greg: it is mean and she is supposed to be delivering a three-part message. it is like a book report. part one is intro, part two is causes and part three is indexed. this is the first time i have seen virtue signaling as foreign policy. they were just sending there to get sell sent her there and it replaces real project sell progress. people go on twitter and instead of actually doing something they type something on twitter. it goes back to the crazy idea of mediation. why not do an audacious diplomatic act where you send people an actual grant of substance, obama and trump, what a robust picture that would be and they go and meet with these two guys and what that does, you

might get a cease fire out of it, you give him the proper deference, even to the madman or the evil man and you might actually get somewhere. this is kind of a slap in the face. you are sending the least qualified vice president ever to do something in the first ground war that we have seen in europe in decades, this is how we respond. this is pure virtue signaling, meaning it is entirely worthless. >> jesse: i think we should get obama and trump on the same plan together just to do that. >> greg: this is the wackiest idea i've ever come up with. >> jesse: barack wants a lift. >> geraldo: may be on mig 29. >> judge jeanine: president biden says don't blame him for surging gas prices but the facts say otherwise.

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>> it's going to go up here >> what are you going to do better? >> can't do much now. >> jesse: president biden saying don't blame him for the record high price of gas which is now $4.25 to the gallon. coming up with a cute hashtag, putin price hike like that will make a difference. insisting it is all putin's process sell fault but it has been hiking since biden took office after he pledged to eliminate fossil fuels. the media and the democrats are just dismissing concerns in pushing green. >> today the average gas price in america hit an all-time record high of over $4 per gallon. >> i will pay $4 a gallon, i will pay $15 a gallon because i drive a tesla. >> if you make the market work in this respect people will feel

pain, take a second look at the ford f450 gigantic truck. >> we should ultimately learn a lesson here and become energy independent and choose to invest in clean domestic energy. >> we have to move to clean energy solutions. clean is in the end where she sell we should be so we don't find ourselves in this position again. >> jesse: joe biden has said so many things about this. first joe biden said this was covid's fault and then the supply chain and then he said there was nothing he could do about the price of gas and then he said he was doing everything to reduce the price of gas, and now he is saying i can't do anything again about the price of gas and it's just going to go up. >> geraldo: i personally don't think the president of the united states has a big role in setting the price of energy. >> jesse: why is he trying to do anything? >> geraldo: because politicians can't resist the temptation to say, i can fix this or it's not my fault. but i believe you have to look at wall street, you have to look at the oil traders, you have to look at the guys who make money

dealing it. at these prices, i'm going to go out and drill oil, everyone is going to go, it is a fortune. >> jesse: no, geraldo. >> jesse: sell >> geraldo: a fortune could be made here. >> dana: they have to do it. >> geraldo: i think there's plenty of leeway. i go back to the basin, midland, there is so much oil there, so many rigs that the last time i was there, a buddy at the campus of the university of texas, there are so many rigs just sitting there. they are not using them because the market didn't demand it. now the market is demanding it. now if they can make a buck it's all about money. forget about politicians. >> jesse: is it about money or is it about supply? >> judge jeanine: is all about the fact that this administration has no strategy. all they do is react. they have no plan, they never had a plan. all they can do is blame russia

or blame trump or blame somebody else. the truth is that geraldo, if these prices have been going up since joe biden came in, we were energy independent, all was well, the price of gas. we've been over this a million times, the price of gas was affordable in then he comes in and has this green energy policy and deepen the guy has said, you shouldn't be driving that big black truck. you should be in a tesla. the guy who builds tesla's says a drill, baby, drill. in the end, what we've got is not just a keystone which is really the pipeline that can bring the oil down. it's about the fact that everything in this administration doesn't allow for drilling. it's slow walking permits, slow walking all of the policies and the right-of-ways and the roads and the supply and labor

shortages. >> jesse: the president called the saudis, saudis wouldn't pick up the phone, wouldn't take his call. >> greg: there you go. >> jesse: it happened to you before. no one takes your calls. >> greg: that has happened when i tried to make a reservation for you with the restaurant. >> jesse: i actually got in. >> greg: applebee's loves you. >> jesse: all of. >> greg: yes. this exposes the flaw in the most left-wing ideas, a green environment but they don't have a system to get there so it leads us to a quandary when they remove the solution which is drilling because they have no real replacement, so you end up going after dictator's oil instead of our own. once again, the hashtag replaces real action beer they probably worked on that illiterate putin hashtag for months. you get the feeling that jen psaki from that montage, this is an ideology of punishment. they see the american people as an amorphous blob with no real life or feeling. too bad they don't have a cool job where you never have to pump

gas, like jen psaki. i pumped my own gas, believe it or not. >> geraldo: everyone who doesn't live in new jersey palms their own gas. >> dana: i live in new jersey you don't have to pump your own gas. >> jesse: me too. >> geraldo: i love tipping the guy. can i say one thing about saudi arabia? saudi arabia is a miserable country. [laughter] >> greg: that was necessary. >> geraldo: saudi arabia is killing civilians in yemen. going back to what i was saying earlier about my moral feelings, feeling sorry for the people in aleppo. saudi arabia is bombing the hell out of yemen and bombing civilians right and left and we are silent on it because we want to saudi oil, it is pathetic. >> jesse: we don't actually need to use saudi oil, we can use american oil. we could totally delink ourselves if we wanted to from global oil prices and have american oil companies. >> dana: i think we should ask ourselves to pump and ask all of our allies to do it because the

global economy is going to need in order to keep going. let's do what we can't get everyone to do it as well be her talk about nuclear as well. on the hashtag think i'm of the stupid thing is twitter doesn't even use hashtags anymore because they removed the hashtag and they just pick up on keywords so you don't actually need the hashtag. like you did in bring back our girls. >> greg: oh, yeah. this is the first i have heard of this. >> dana: hashtag, no need for a hashtag. >> greg: this is what we should be covering. >> dana: that's one more thing! that is the news you need to know but the other thing, they want you to also buy electric vehicles. electric vehicles require a battery. one of the things you need to make a battery is a nickel. where do we get nickel? oh, oh, russia. where are the nickel mines being held up? oh, america. you see the pattern we are seeing here. hashtag pattern. >> jesse: it is funny to watch someone in a very nice outfit to sit back and say, just go by a tesla.

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♪ ♪ >> geraldo: communist china reportedly getting ready to bail out vladimir putin. the u.s. and nato allies hitting russia right where it hurts as you know with these harsh sanctions in the banning of russian oil. an all-out economic war but then russia turns to china and china could be tossing putin a financial life preserver. considering they are, we are told, buying stakes in russia's energy sector. china will pick up the slack for russia. >> judge jeanine: absolutely, these two guys will take care of each other, they think alike. >> geraldo: you are not

surprised? >> judge jeanine: i am not surprised at all. when putin says it is an all-out economic war it goes back to what we were saying in the a block when i was talking about the fact that who knows what new hurdle or what new standard he's going to use for triggering him. it's an economic war therefore i'm going to be at war with all of you. no, i think they should be very happy together. but the problem is that if we go to electric vehicles and all that we are going to have some trouble with lithium and some of the other materials that we need. >> geraldo: i go back to the money thing. jesse, i think china wants to make money. china exists to make money and get more and more powerful. this is very bad for business. in europe in turmoil, everybody suspicious of the other. >> jesse: yes, it is bad for business but they're going to go and can rate all of the commodities out of russia. they are going to go after their timber and their coal and oil and gas. but after commodities, they don't have anything in russia.

you look at china and you look at russia and you think, that's disgusting. you don't want to have any association with russia, then you were going to have some guy come in, the chinese and act like their sugar daddy. they are going to face boycotts and sanctions and you're going to have western banking institution say no, you stay over there. they are going to have to decide, are they going to delink themselves from the global economy and do deals with a pariah state that is going bankrupt? or do they want to keep propping up their economy with western cash and at least try to be seen as a normal stakeholder and not some disgusting, you know, communist regime that is bailing out a war criminal. >> geraldo: what about taiwan? here you have this island, china threatening to take it over the way they took over hong kong. militarily they want to take over taiwan. will this give china the feeling

that america is a toothless -- anyway, that i was the time to take taiwan? >> dana: it's interesting that president xi has this opportunity to see how it will go. he told putin to wait until after the olympics. which tells me also, president xi doesn't think of putin is an equal at all. he thinks of putin as subpar and i think he also thinks this was pitiful, the way this has gone down and it looks awful and we also heard yesterday that germany and the french were talking to the chinese about a . i think the chinese look at putin and think, if it had gone perfectly according to all the things greg mentioned, the four assumptions putin had, that all of that had worked out perfectly, i think beijing would have said, after our next communist meeting let's figure out a way to take taiwan. that might have gotten harder now. another thing we will figure out an addition to the economic things that you mentioned is the oil will be available for them to buy. they have a voracious appetite and they've been helping around for many years get out of the

situation with the sanctions from the rest of the world. china doesn't care, they will buy their oil. so there might be a way for putin to keep afloat in some way. but i agree, it's not a very attractive dance partner that china is looking at here. >> geraldo: and yet you look at a map, if you have a map at home take a look at china and russia together. they take up an awful lot of the world, a big hunk of the world. >> greg: i hope dana is right but it's not just the world, it's the final frontier. i don't want a partnership between china and russia because they are going to need to be partners if we are talking about space and owning that space. basically, that should be ours. but if those two guys get together, we are screwed. you are right, if russia does end up hooking up with china, they have to be china's puppet. how can it be anything else? if they have all your bank stuff because they are going to do the bank stuff, what can putin do? putin is basically going to be

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>> greg: u.s. intelligence officials warning vladimir putin is growing angry and frustrated as ukrainian resistance holds up beard russia losing about 50 military vehicles a day, including tanks. no american intelligence thinks putin could resort to drastic measures. >> escalate to de-escalate, especially considering the use of tactical nuclear weapons. but i stress that is only in that specific circumstance of a direct military conflict between nato and russia. >> greg: the white house now morning russia could use chemical or biological weapons in ukraine. do you think he would do that, dana? i think he would lose any support or any argument against taking him out as other

country -- >> dana: you made some good points in the a block about how he will be desperate. i don't think we do know. i think william burns, the cia director is probably the most confident and valuable member of the president's cabinet. >> greg: that is a low bar. >> dana: and he should have gone to poland. he said very specific, if this happens and only if this happens and i'm answering a question from a member of congress. i'm not saying this is going to happen, putin is about to do this. i think we have to maybe be cautious, be aware that it is a possibility but not according to him at the moment. >> greg: what do you think, judge? >> judge jeanine: it's interesting, i'm looking at this. the top u.s. intelligence agency offered a sobering assessment of him and how his invasion into ukraine can affect the safety and security of the united states. and although we are really not in this war, we are not. is he going to react because he

is losing so badly? and he is losing badly on the world stage and he is being condemned every day. there isn't a human being alive that i know of who isn't opposed to what's going on. a medical building and hospitals being bombed, civilians being killed, people's lives being offended. if you are as desperate as putin is to impress is using ping expand his own territory, than he's going to resort to what he resorted to in aleppo and chechnya. then the question is, what do we do? when do we get triggered? we keep worrying about triggering him, he's going to trigger himself. >> greg: geraldo, there is a lesson here, a putin lesson in that if you invade a neighbor of the world destroy your country. that is a fairly new thing. what we are seeing there is kind

of a speedy, dramatic response. >> geraldo: you listed the failures of putin and one of the failures was his inability to foresee that germany and france would shake up the doldrums and get it together and back the assailed country, the beleaguered country, ukraine. but that is not what i'm worried about. that is what's happening now. what i worry about is the guy facing abject defeat and disappointment and rebellion within his ranks and all of those dead bodies coming home, all of those kids, all of those draftees coming home dead. you know, he's looking at his butler waiting for his butler to kill him. doing a nuke, nuke is the thing, that's the nightmare. in my age, you grew up in the cold war. this is the cold war two, what is this crazy nut job going to do when he is in the corner? he is like a rat. he is like a cornered rat.

what is he going to do? there is no doubt that if hitler had a button at the end of world war ii and he knew the russians were coming into berlin, he would have pushed the button and nuked the world, destroyed the world. there is no doubt about that in my mind. i think about putin, is he going to be the button at the end of the world? >> greg: i hope they give him a fake button. >> jesse: greg, you should be cia director. >> greg: give him a fake button! [laughter] >> jesse: if he is that crazy when he is in a corner and he is that desperate to use a tactical nuke, we can't put him in a corner. that is why when nato gets involved, that is when the tactical nukes come out. that is why i think the likelihood of a coup rises when nato doesn't get involved. when nato get involved, than

the kremlin gets all fired up and it becomes russia versus nato. now, putin owns this. he owns the russia economy, he went in and destroyed the ruble. believe it that way, make him owned this and that is where you want to dance. that is the place you want to dance. >> judge jeanine: he is not going to own it by himself quietly, that is the thing. >> jesse: but i think if no one buys russian oil in the ruble is worthless -- >> judge jeanine: the chinese are going to buy russian oil. >> jesse: but the pipeline is no good, you have to ensure it and you can't get insurance on anything. it would take forever to get to beijing. i think wait it out a little longer, make the sanctions bite harder and see what happens. >> dana: and pray for a miracle because that is why i think, look for the miracles. there have been a few and the really brave, heroic things are being done in other countries to help the refugees. but find a humanitarian corridor and find a way to help get a

country that can provide an actual humanitarian corridor. that should be our number one goal overnight. that is what -- not hillary -- kamala harris should focus on tonight. >> greg: there has to be a way to lead to putin's inner or outer circle know that they are also can be tried for war crimes because that is a great incentive for them, because they might live in they might live to see their own execution. >> jesse: this was a big day with the bombing, this was a crucial day. a turning point. >> geraldo: i hope you're right. >> greg: more breaking news from ukraine, next. introducing the all-electric chevy silverado rst. the only ev truck that combines: 4-wheel steer a multi-flex midgate and up to a 400-mile range on a full charge and the only way to reserve it is at chevy.com. find your future. find new roads.

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you know, and i think we spent a lot of time. we had a lot of powerful politicians in the ukraine in 2014 and biden even claimed that he spent more time on the phone with ukrainian leader than his own wife. if we can meddle, we can mediate. we create, you know, an a-team of sorts. including jesse. >> jesse: i'm on an a-team? >> greg: yes, first time. >> jesse: they wouldn't have me on that team. i think that oil prices are going to probably hit 200 and gas prices are probably going to hit $6 or $7 a gallon here in the united states and the president is going to have to make a serious decision and he is not there yet but he will have to make that decision. >> dana: get there geraldo? >> geraldo: i said yesterday zelenskyy could not be killed. now his image is heroism will live forever in the anales of history. putin why murdering women and children has gone beyond the

pale. irredeemable. you can't think of a world with putin anymore. >> dana: judge jeanine? >> judge jeanine: in russia, also, given what he has done to his own people and the fact that many of his own people don't agree with what he is doing, i think that putin is the persona non grata of the century. >> perhaps forever. all right. that is it for us. "special report" is up next. hi, bret. >> bret: maybe time for jesse to save the world. >> judge jeanine: he took the line. >> greg: very good. >> bret: all right. good evening. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. breaking tonight ♪ [gunfire] [shouting] [sobbing] >> bret: russian strike hit a maternity