that includes the three kids magazine and a free video lesson to to learn more in order to free gifts until just visit three trump guides. com three trump guide .com there on the with all rest the entire country is consumed by the number of refugees fleeing the country exploding up to the minute reports on fox news fox as we continue our breaking coverage of the war on ukraine for the second morning in a row, air raid sirens going off in the capital city of keene. it comes as the war moves into day 15 and as russian troops continue their push to encircle ukraine's capital city. so far the city is not surrounded, but the russians are clearly gaining ground and along the way they are also facing fierce resistance and u.s. intelligence believes the russians have lost thousands of soldiers during these battles.

meantime, we are now seeing devastating images showing what's left of a maternity and children's hospital in the key ukrainian port city of mariupol following a russian bombing wednesday. and now russia is blaming ukraine, saying they set up firing positions inside the hospital. ukraine says that is nonsense. just hours from now, vice president kamala harris will meet with both the president and prime minister of poland. this comes after the u.s. rejected poland's offer to give their mig 29 fighter jets to ukraine and the foreign ministers of both russia and ukraine are meeting in turkey trying to find some common ground. even ukrainian president zelenskyy is saying it's time to pressure russia to sit down at the negotiating table. hello again, everyone. i'm chris gallagher live in los angeles where it is now 11:00 p.m. and nine o'clock thursday morning in ukraine's capital city of key west along with bombs falling, the temperatures have also been

plummeting and many residents, as you might imagine, do not have electricity. we begin our team coverage this hour with our chief correspondent and the co-anchor of our coverage, jonathan hunt. he's on the ground in lviv in western ukraine. >> jonathan, good morning to you again. good morning to you again, trace. >> we are now entering week three of this war and the suffering of ukrainian civilians, millions of them worsens by the day. we have seen terrible pictures coming out of the southern city of mariupol. that's where a russian air strike yesterday, according to ukrainian officials, hit a maternity hospital and children's hospital doing widespread damage to those buildings. as you can see, quite plainly that we have also seen very disturbing images of heavily pregnant women badly wounded being carried away on mattresses and whatever makeshift sort of stretchers

the rescue is confined to bring them out of there and get them to some sort of safety. president zelenskyy of ukraine says if this kind of thing is a war, isn't a war crime, what on earth is? and he says it should really be a wake up call to the west to do more . listen here to president zelenskyy of me. don't wait for me asking you several times a million times close this . i know you have to phone us to our people who lost their children and say sorry we didn't do it yesterday. one week ago we didn't push the putin. we didn't speak with him a lot. we didn't want opined that dialog with him. we we did nothing. and it's true yesterday the world did nothing. i'm sorry, but it's the world it did nothing is what he says.

we've also seen some very disturbing images of ukrainians burying their dead in the essentially open trenches, mass graves wrapping wrapping bodies in plastic and just dropping them into those trenches because they have simply nowhere else to put them. meantime, internode, you'll remember, was the site of that terrible radioactive leak thirty six years ago. the ukrainians are now saying that chernobyl, which is controlled by the russians now has been cut off from the power grid. that's obviously of great concern, although the international atomic energy agency is saying right now they do not believe there is any danger with the radioactive material that remains on that decommissioned site. we've also been talking about the polish mig fighter jets. well, we understand now from the united states officials that they do not think the risk reward of handing those jets over to the ukrainians is worth it. they say the risk would be

widening the conflict, making it a much larger conflict with nato aircraft involved. the reward would be minimal. they say the ukrainians are much better off making use of the thousands upon thousands of javelin and stinger missiles that the west, including the u.s. is sending to the ukrainian forces. finally, if there's a glimmer of hope anywhere in all of this today, it is that the foreign ministers of russia and ukraine are planning on meeting in turkey today. there has been a modicum of movement perhaps in the positions of both sides. so we hope we might see some progress that yeah, even a little hope would be a glimmer. jonathan, back to you in moments. meantime, our foreign affairs correspondent benjamin has more on the brutal assault of the maternity hospital. he's in kyiv this morning. >> cia director william burns said yesterday that we were entering a vicious new phase of this conflict, one in which vladimir putin was going to take off the gloves and start

targeting civilians ever more . well, certainly that is what we've been seeing today. the shocking images now today of this maternity hospital in mariupol hit by a massive russian air strike shaking the world community. the russian airstrike demolished the entire facility and left people, including children buried under the rubble. the death toll there is still unknown and rescuers are still trying to work through the rubble. this pregnant lady shown being picked up from the carnage and carried to safety. a reminder that it is the past, the present and the future that are being torn apart here and no one is safe. and the innocent who suffer the city of mariupol has been besieged for over a week now despite repeated promises from the russians to safe passage out that has not happened. authorities in the city say they collected the bodies of over 100 civilians since the siege began and today they buried 47 in a mass grave unable to give them proper burials. similar images called apocalyptic by the red cross have also come for the northern city of kharkiv and cia

director burns yesterday telling the house intelligence committee it will be an ugly next few weeks, adding that in the most likely scenario putin doubles with scant regard for civilian casualties. as for the capital kyiv, just this morning we saw the air defenses in action for the first time right here in the center not far from where we are. and it now seems it was inevitable that this city is the next to be targeted and targeted in discriminately . best estimates are that the city of kyiv will be surrounded in the next 24 to 96 hours. and the cia director burned saying once that happens, the city has just between 10 and 14 days of supplies which time we start to see the same scenes here as we've seen elsewhere. but it hasn't happened yet. the ukrainians have been remarkably successful holding back the russian forces. the question is how long can they keep it up truly how long? benjamin, thank you . vice president kamala harris is in poland hoping to resolve a diplomatic spat over plan to equip ukraine with mig 29 combat jets. it's a move the pentagon calls high risk.

with us now, national security and foreign policy expert ari. all right. maybe you can explain the high risk part of that to me because i don't quite get it. what is the difference between equipping the ukrainians with equipment to actually anti-aircraft crippling knock planes out of the sky but not giving them the planes to do pretty much the same? well, i think the issue is a means of delivery now. i think the pentagon is cherry picking intelligence and sort of increasing what a real sort of risk risk level is. it should be for the very purpose of not trying to get involved. but let's discuss the two options not javelin and stinger short range missiles for the most part, their delivery is a lot is easier. you can you know, ukrainians can just come to the polish border, pick these up and go these are not the large mig 29 fulcrums. secondly, to deliver these mig 29, these are a soviet era or soviet made warplanes

that the ukrainian pilots are trained to fly. you would have to fly them from point a to point b, point a , the place from where the planes should be flown to ukraine, poland or the ramstein air force base will be a hostile point of origin. having said that , this discussion should not even be public. i don't understand why our discussion over arming ukraine covertly has now become a public debate on twitter. this should have been done months ago. this should have been weeks ago. this should have been done by picking up a phone call in d.c. calling warsaw, calling bratislava, calling any of those countries neighboring ukraine, the four nato countries to have about 70 mig 20 nines. you got hungary , romania, slovakia and poland. poland has different estimates with twenty three to twenty seven make twenty nine . this should have been done a long time ago. we have the means and by the way, this is for all practical purposes trace

a proxy war . what is a proxy war , a proxy war is one we are not sending troops directly to fight contri or country b but we are arming the local resistance to fight the aggressors. the russians did that to us . the chinese to us . we were fighting in vietnam. they helped the viet cong and then the nba. this has been done since time immemorial. i don't understand why biowarfare are not want these things to be out there. they do want it to be out there is because a lot of critics say because they're signaling vladimir putin saying look, we're not doing anything wrong ,we're not going to cross that line. well, he keeps crossing red lines. the united states keeps saying no, we're not going to cross that red line john kirby said this you mentioned about oh , they can't move this stuff. it's too hard to move these planes. john kirby, the pentagon said this about this watch. we assess that adding aircraft to the ukrainian inventory is not likely to significantly change the effectiveness of ukrainian air force relative to russian capabilities.

yeah, so that's what he's saying. it's not about moving. it's about capabilities. it's not going to make them any stronger. well, i mean, we have respect with all due respect, admiral kirby, i think his assessment is completely wrong. ukrainians already have mig 29 and they're flying very few of them. the reason why is they are saving the bulk of their air defense for an onslaught against kyiv that's going to come any day now. so now look at the convoy we've been talking about this convoy north of kyiv 40 miles long. well, guess what would have happened if the ukrainians had some air superiority? yes. what would have happened? the ukrainians had some air defense capabilities in addition to just surface to air missiles but some actual fixed wings to defend mariupol against putin's bombing a maternity ward. i mean, the idea that this is not going to enhance ukraine's offensive means i think is just ridiculous. it's just flat out ridiculous. but the idea that i understand

the risks involved getting mig 29 or sukhoi 20 seven in i understand the risk involved getting them from a nato partner and giving them to the russians but also with every action comes some risks. i don't think putin, while he's homicidal, i don't think he's suicidal. and also he's surrounded by a decent group of generals, not decent in the sense that they're good people, but the military minds that might tell him, hey, if you retaliate against nato countries, we will invoke article five and we will hit you back . so giving the ukrainians what they need and by the way, mig 29 is not the only thing deportivo. that's the first order to get totally gotten. yeah, but anyhow, go ahead. >> no, i was just going to say i mean, i totally get it. and the whole point is, is that , you know, a lot of people have said, look, that you're exactly right. the ukrainians are saving their high weaponry for the big battle. but the question is why isn't russia i mean, they want to shut down the skies.

why isn't russia dominating the skies the way they did in syria? it just doesn't make any sense. i got 10 seconds if you can answer it in that time. all right. well, you know what ? they have better air superiority. they have better air power. but again, we can give the ukrainians what they need. and it's not just make 20 times the port of odessa, third largest city. we can provide them with anti-tank missiles and they can we can train them on that rather quickly and they can target russian ships right there in the black sea and make this a lot more costly for putin and his aggressive army. yeah. ramesh, great to have you on as always. thank you . well, ukrainian president zelenskyy reportedly surviving nearly a dozen assassination attempts this week alone. we'll talk to a former secret service agent who protected three presidents about the exact risk that man is facing now in forbes not so

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just before midnight, the house passing the two major pieces of legislation. first that massive one and a half trillion dollar omnibus spending bill that includes thirteen point six billion for ukraine in military humanitarian and economic aid. now house majority leader steny hoyer tweeting after tonight the house approved an anonymous omnibus appropriations package that invests in the priorities of the american people and that will help us build a better and stronger america. but before that moved forward earlier in the day, speaker pelosi had to strip 15% billion out in koed funds because it became a sticking point with democrats that threatened a revolt. now the house also passing this bill to ban russian oil imports overwhelm for 14 to 17 . it passed with bipartisan support. this after the president took action against russian energy earlier this week under pressure from congress. although this house bill goes further trace than biden's

import ban because it calls for a review of russia's status in the world trade organization . but despite the bipartisan support for this bill, republicans are still blasting the administration for reaching out to unlikely partners in iran and venezuela in an effort to lower gas prices. >> let's cut a deal with the iranians, put their oil on the market with the venezuelans to put their oil in the market. what we have is an administration that would rather deal with international killers than with american drillers. so what happens next ? the house wrap things, but it must now head to the senate where the clock is ticking with a friday deadline for government funding to run out. we'll see if they can get it done before the week's end. trace griff jenkins live for us in d.c. grippe. thank you . meantime, let's get back to our co-anchor jonathan hunt. and jonathan, we were talking with griff jenkins about again the price of gas, price of oil, all these voting bills and so forth. and it's curious now because

a lot of critics have said, you know, the president biden is not being honest because the oil prices and gas prices were up 66% before this war even started. now the white house is responding saying the reason gas prices went up before the war started is because of vladimir putin's saber rattling during that time. so there clearly trying to get ahead of the narrative here. jonathan? yeah, and gas prices look like they're going to go up a lot more before they come back down to the ban on russia. oil imports, a lot of people would say is doing the right thing, but it's going to have an effect on the american people, that's for sure. meantime, an aide to ukrainian president zelenskyy reportedly saying the ukrainian president has survived more than a dozen assassination and that was just last week. we now bring in charles marino, a former secret service supervisory special agent. charles, thank you for being here. i know you protected or were part of the protection detail

for three presidents protecting any president hard enough in the best of times. these are absolutely the worst of times in ukraine. what kind of threats is president zelenskyy facing every day and his detail having to deal with? yeah. hey, jonathan, good to be with you again. you know, listen, obviously we've taken u.s. presidents to war zones. so there's a big difference here in what we're dealing with, with president zelenskyy . you know, when u.s. presidents go into war zones, they are typically in and out here. president zelenskyy, you know, the balance is the number one target here for russia is maintaining appearances is in an act of war zone and he has no intention of decreasing his visibility or leaving. so he's essentially been hiding in plain sight. so we know why russia wants dead. we know that his adversaries won't be at the russian military or mercenary organizations like the reported wagner group. they only have to get lucky

once to get him. so, you know, based on this, it requires a lot of deceptive tactics. it requires staying unpredictable and this goes towards his his movements, his appearances all the way down. jonathan, to social media appearances. you know, not everything needs to be live there probably recommending delayed video, you know, releasing messages later . we know what his messages are doing in terms of the positive effect on the will of the ukrainian people. so the messages can still get out but they don't need to be live and put at risk. is location being given away through geo location? >> and i guess a lot of us don't know how you deal with these things might think, well, the best way to protect somebody is to put hundreds of armed protectors around him. but in a sense i'm assuming that the smaller the footprint, the better just a small, highly

trained group moving with him. would that be right? >> yeah, and i think that's the case here. right. you already have a large military operation with citizens armed in ukraine. so he's already falling under that overall rule of military support and then it's the discreetness of his protection detail moving who are obviously very capable ,highly trusted to do the job. but you know, as russian forces are making their way more and more into kiv, jonathan, at some point in time, you know, presence zelenskyy is going to have to hunker down and that would be to secure locations and you know, at some point in time make a decision as to whether they continue to fight or does he get taken. unfortunately, interesting. tell us just briefly, i know you guys have to put emotions aside. you're always very good at

doing that and just doing your job but hard for those who are protecting zelenskyy to be without emotion right now in wanting to keep that man alive. yeah, you know, we've got to remember that the people protecting zelenskyy are human beings, right? they have families who knows where they are. you know, they probably have fled the area hopefully safely. so there is a lot of emotion tied to this president zelenskyy represents a lot to this country and personally i think he does the country of ukraine more good alive than he does dead. so they're keeping that in mind. it's tied again directly his survival to the will to fight, to the will to survive the will to repel the russian government from taking over ukraine. so there's certainly a lot at stake. charles marino, former secret service supervisory special. charles, going to get your insights on a particularly extraordinary group of people

today. and thank you for your service . really interesting. obviously one of vladimir putin's main aims is to get rid of the government to decapitate it and that means getting zelenskyy no surprise they have been going after him twice and a big surprise that they have failed time and time again. jonathan, back to you. in the meantime, gas prices skyrocketing across the country in the biden administration is blaming it on putin. is working. we'll have the real story next sunday care cut woodland creatures too soon. run it back . okay, take the sun grows green grass and it's delivered to your door purple and every long-playing is customized for your yard. bump that type up. what is that ? seriously, jerry, we're making a commercial over here. it's called sun and it's better for kids heads and the plants advise 15%.

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with them really have the golden touch to be able to calm these children down, to be able to regain their trust is really a special skill. yeah, and hard to imagine how difficult that is. trace, you know, the group of kids that we met at the orphanage here had spent five days previously for days and nights just huddled in a basement in their orphanage in heve with the bombs falling all around them. the work of the adults to keep them calm, to keep them smiling in those situations is extraordinary. but those kids are playing and smiling and looking forward to life here. hello, mom and dad, 13 year old yulia, one of many orphans waiting for this war to end hopes her adoptive parents in chicago are watching this . i want to go to chicago. if it weren't for war , yulia might already be in the u.s. for adoption is due to be

finalized just before the first bombs dropped. now she waits in libya and plays with friends all of them orphans, all of them forced to leave that previous orphanage on the outskirts of kyiv after spending five days and nights huddling in a basement as the russians attacked the capital city kyiv . as ukraine keyssar are blessed catholic ukraine, the director of the kiv orphanage who shepherded the children on that dangerous journey has a message for the rest of the world. there's a lot of families today. lots of innocent children are dying for no reason. we want to stay here but we ask all the countries and especially the united states to close our skies. before we left the orphanage, the children asked if they could sing the ukrainian national anthem for us . they did so with hands on hearts. that sense of pride in that country obviously even as some like yulia dream of a new safer

life in the u.s. so glory to ukraine, glory to heroes is what you hear them shouting at the end that trace into then of heroes, all of those adults who continue to risk their own lives to care for them and every ukrainian man and woman who is fighting for the freedom of this country's children and the parents who are fighting to get hold of those kids and bring them to a new life in a new country. jonathan, a great story. nicely done. we'll see you in a moment. let's now go to a fox news alert. the price of oil rising again. benchmark crude up to more than one hundred ten dollars a barrel in electronic trading on the new york mercantile exchange. gas prices also skyrocketing and the biden administration is blaming vladimir putin. with me now is oil trader phil

flynn. that's become the narrative now ,right? the whole narrative here is it's putin's fault, not biden's fault. and they forget to throw in , by the way, that prior to any bombs dropping in ukraine, the price of gas gone up 66% under the biden administration. what do you say? absolutely them across the nation for the last year before this war started, we had pictures on gas tanks. joe biden with his finger pointing towards a price saying i did that right. and i think now the democratic party wants to print stickers that said putin did that and covered those up. but i don't know if you can cover up the truth because the reality is americans know that their gasoline prices have been on the rise. you know, and then of course, looking at those heart wrenching stories coming out of ukraine, you know, joe biden might get a little bit of a pass because he's selling this as, hey, it's not my fault for the liberty in ukraine, you know, but that's going to wear thin because when you look at his energy policies, all americans know that joe biden

didn't come into office saying, hey, i'm going to pump more oil and keep your gas prices low. it seems like well, that the democrats you know, they poll these things. they're proud of some of the things they did like defund the police and they they repeated again and again and again. and then when they poll it and it doesn't poll well, they backtracked saying, oh , we weren't for that . this is kind of in that vein the attack the oil companies was big and it was big for the base until it wasn't and now they're backtracking. in fact, white house communications director kate bedingfield said the following here for months putin has been saber rattling and for months gas prices have been going up up 75 cents since he began his military buildup. this is putin price hike and action and politics is going to use every at his disposal to shield americans from pain at the pump. so now the narrative is that sixty six percent increase had nothing to do with president biden's war on fossil fuels. it was putin. >> yeah, it's amazing how they change things. you know, i would say the saber

rattling came from the biden administration against the u.s. energy industry saying we are going to put you out of business. you know, in fact, even yesterday energy secretary jennifer granholm, you know, gave a speech and talked to the u.s. energy industry and said, you know, we're on a war footing now. we're going to do everything we can to help you raise production in the short term even though we want to put you out in the long term, you know, saying we can walk and chew gum at the same time. well, maybe she can. i'm not very good at that price, but we'll see if she can do it. so i mean, the whole they forget that we have videotape that we can just go back to the debates back in 2001 and the tape of joe biden was saying he's going to go after the oil companies and you think they forget about that ? i want to play this . this is from former energy secretary rick perry on fox today. watch. they can say all they want about it. it's russia's fault. it's russia's. but this problem started on day one when he stepped into

the white house and one of the first things he did not be first thing was to stop the xl pipeline. all of those and powerful messages to the fossil fuel industry and there was very little debate about the fight on the fossil fuel industry until now. phil, you're absolutely right. listen, you know, when president biden came to office ,he killed the keystone pipeline. he basically also put them drilling moratoriums. he was sending a signal to investors around the world don't invest in american energy because the government can shut you down and that is a misunderstanding of how much capital it takes to bring gasoline to your your neighborhood gasoline station. you need constant investment of millions of dollars per day to make that happen. and when the government says, hey, we can arbitrarily shut down your pipelines, we're going to put a new regulation in taxes, you know, investors are going to put their money

somewhere else. yeah, i know. you know, a lot of people say they think gas prices, you know, and they're looking for odd even numbers on license plates and gas lines like in nineteen seventy nine . they're quite gas prices that jimmy carter. and so now the narrative becomes this watch this and then i'll get your response. this war by putin is not going to be costless, not going to be painless. i think it's also true that the world needs to be prepared for a very long, difficult road ahead through cost as well here in the united states. so you steal a little fdr feel like the war is going to be costly. we've all got to be on one team for the war and then, you know, you forget about the whole jimmy carter seventy nine gas thing because that was not good for democrats and you build the new narrative saying it's going to be painful. we all need to we all need to get together because it's the mad man in moscow that's really to blame for this . yeah. i mean when you look those tapes it's almost pathetic. you know, don't let any good

crisis go to waste. you know, we are on the hook for higher gasoline prices. our poll numbers are plummeting. we're going to try to frame this as a let's rally around the flag, both the u.s. and the ukrainian flag and darn it, we want to pay $50 a gallon for gasoline. you know, the free for ukraine . i don't think americans are going to buy it. i mean, i think they're going to get a little bit of cover in the short run. but when they start planning their summer vacations in finding out that airlines are canceling their flights because fuel prices are too high, you know, i think americans patients are going to wear thin with this administration. well, as social media is any indication, americans already really not buying it. phil flynn, great to have you on as always. thank you . >> thank you , sir. up next , chernobyl nuclear power plant in northern ukraine has apparently lost power raising concerns about radiation. our coverage continuing coverage of the breaking news on the ground.

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finger pointing from russia. they are now accusing the u.s. of hiding biological research in ukraine, a claim the white house is refuting. let's get to amy kellogg. she's live in london this morning. amy rice. and it just becomes more surreal. i've just seen a report on a telegram channel citing russia's ministry of defense saying that not only was there biological and weapons work being done at these nuclear power plants in ukraine but also experiments on coronavirus is and that's and wild birds and possible transmission between russia and ukraine of of something like the coronavirus. so that following of course, yesterday's claims about this biological and military research going on at the power plants, something that the white house has called preposterous. you know, the russians are saying that they've got all these documents proving that what what is going on at chernobyl and pareja amounts to

research and banned weapons and the accusation that this is being done with us funding. chernobyl, of course, the site of the nineteen eighty six accident that sent radioactive matter across europe, rendering swaths of land toxic in ukraine and belarus and off limits to farming. and some in the us are just worrying that these claims by russia that all sorts of banned research been going on at these nuclear power plants is setting the ground for a false flag operation. in other words, russia may be planning to use chemical, biological or even some sort of nuclear weapon itself in ukraine and then blame that on the united states or nato or simply the ukrainians. this is the war drags on to its second week. we are getting a glimpse of the fear and the anger felt by mothers who feel their young sons are being used as cannon fodder, that they were lied to, told that their sons were going to carry out military exercise exercises when in fact they were being sent to fight a war in ukraine.

they were you could see these mothers trying to get some answers out of the governor of one russian region. finally, another stab at diplomacy today is turkey brings together both the russian and ukrainian foreign ministers. again, analysts point out trace that they don't believe that president putin, who is the only man who can actually stop the madness in ukraine is ready for an off ramp. but nevertheless, this could be setting the groundwork for an eventual meeting between putin and the ukrainian president vladimir zelenskyy got to feel bad for those russian you know, kremlin honesty has been in short supply as of late. amy kellogg live for us in london, thank you . well, welcome back to our coanchor jonathan hunt who's in lviv in the western part of ukraine. jonathan trist, there is fear of radiation leaks now as ukraine claims its chernobyl power plant is disconnected, presumably by the russians from the power grid. we're now joined by journalists to washington from

the washington beacon matthew foldit. matthew, obviously chernobyl is the decommissioned plant since the disaster that amy was talking back in eighty six . but there is radioactive material there. how worried should the world be able to look at the big picture here? president biden's foreign policy of humiliating our allies like poland with the mig fiasco and rewarding our adversaries like china, russia, venezuela, iran with money for oil and also nuclear weapons down the road. in the case of putin's iran deal is taking us back in time right to the stagflation of the carter era and also potentially to nuclear meltdowns of 1986. and obviously the reason why we're talking about this now is because biden has been so incredibly weak in the face of russia, aggression from putin that we're now talking about a possible catastrophe at chernobyl. so i think you can never take these things too seriously. obviously we'll see what what amounts to this here.

but we should remember the reason we got here is because the biden administration is so hellbent on appeasing putin right. if biden had been president in 1940 and churchill was saying, hey, could we do land lease? you know, it seems like his reaction would be, well, you know, we don't want to risk escalating world war two into a larger conflict. so i think the reason why we're talking about a possible meltdown at chernobyl is because unfortunately america has been incredibly weak and putin has and seizing on that weakness, you know, with chernobyl and his other attacks on ukraine, including on civilians, i'm the white house would say in response to that they are building a really strong coalition here. they would say that nato, rather than being weakened by this, is being strengthened . the sanctions that putting in place is crippling russia and could ultimately lead to the downfall of putin. what say you to that argument? well, most people about an administration are failures from the obama administration

who could not get better jobs at amazon. so in the obama administration when they were of course leading from behind like in libya, the biden administration is actually leading from behind enemy lines where we were bailing out putin's war machine until finally common somehow reached the white house. you know, right behind me and said maybe we should stop funding russian oil and instead our solution is to fund iran, to fund saudi arabia, to fund venezuela while we could be drilling here in america instead. apparently that's off the table. so the white house can claim all at once that , you know, this will lead to, you know, an emboldened nato. fortunately, our european allies are filling the vacuum created by weakness from the bush administration. so any of the positive outcomes you're talking about are not because of leadership from president biden. matthew foldit of the washington free beacon. thank you , matthew untraced. obviously there's going to be a lot of time in the wake of

this war whenever it ends to pick the part who did what and when, who was right, who was wrong in the approach. matthew there with a very pointed point of view obviously, trace, and it's already happening now. jonathan, back in the biden administration warning of russian cyberattacks and sources tell fox news hackers are targeting u.s. energy companies. we're now joined by gerberas djenne manager, managing partner, chief development officer of wave capital partners and marie zetlin where she is a cybersecurity expert. anne-marie, you first. two dozen energy companies in the united states. >> are we not getting better at defending against this ? >> i think that anybody can be a target and i don't believe that those numbers have been confirmed. but you know, the adversary has to be right one time and the defenders have to be right all of the time. so i think it's you know, it's true that every organization can be a target and every organization, as it says, has

to have their shields up at this time. >> you know, it's interesting because you hear some of these cybersecurity experts say, listen, we're a couple of weeks behind these really good cyber criminals. so we're just finding out about attacks that happened a couple of weeks ago. >> is that a fair assessment? definitely is a fair assessment. i mean, even weeks leading up to the russian edge in ukraine and now it's a war. i mean you're talking about energy companies like kinder morgan and kutty corp. chevre and cheniere energy and i mean energy companies are being attacked. and you know, when you think about our infrastructure, the united states, whether it's energy companies, water companies, agriculture based services, i mean there's so many there are so many companies at risk. and i mean, if you think about companies that are pulling out of russia, whether it's mastercard, visa, nike, ikea, mcdonald's, starbucks, i mean a lot of cybersecurity and data which hospitals there is a lot

to decipher and what's going on . i want to read this if i can. this is a quote from a fox news.com article. a government source told fox news that that's this the cyber security agency, the fbi are working with an unnamed american pharmaceutical company whose top executives have been targeted by russian intelligence operatives and ongoing malicious phishing attacks. the pharmaceutical thing to you and what do you make of that very quickly, phishing phishing attacks are part of pretty much every every cyber campaign and they are nonstop. they're pervasive. would not surprise me that there are targeted phishing attacks against a pharmaceutical company. there are against every critical infrastructure around the world and every organization around the world. and certainly that is a very effective tactic for any type of incident. ten seconds to go to wrap us up . yes, absolutely. i think that when you think about hospital systems

that when you think about again the energy companies and also when you think about executives, whether it's energy and transportation in the supply chain, there information need to be properly secured. >> got go get burisma memories antemortem. thank you both. continuing coverage, air sirens in ukraine. we'll be back . breaking news top do not know about that . i'm to the rescue right now. are you kidding me? what are you going to you know ,i get to stay in jail.

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