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outrage. we all watched ed together. i'm harris faulkner. michael waltz, emily compagno and kayleigh mcenany prayed also with us as leslie marshall and jason chaffetz. you're watching out. ukraine just out quite a fight on the outskirts of kyiv has a blow up a fleet of russian tanks which force the remaining ones to turn back. this is international outrage as growing overt of the bombing of children's hospital and mariupol. we are getting new details about that brutal attack. more images, we can now confirm three people died, including a 6-year-old child. many more have been killed in that city during russia's relentless bombing. they are putting the estimate above 1200. imagine that come in one city. we want to warn that the images you are about to see are graphic. so it's noon hour on the east coast, 9:00 a.m. on the
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west, let's give everybody a moment, a beat to take the young ones away. we are watching corpses being dumped in the mass graves as the number of civilian dead has topped 1200. they don't have the ability to have personal private burials right now. they have to move them out of respect into a mass grave. this comes as ukraine's president is going after russian tactics against his people. >> if they want us to feel like animals because they block our cities. they don't want our people to get food or water. >> benjamin hall is live for us in kyiv. i just spoke with a warrior on the ground and they say it's a fortress in kyiv right now. those who have chosen the left
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behind to fight. >> there is no one on the streets since other than those people willing to stay and defend their city. the mayor sing over pop half the population is now flagged meaning there are less than 2 million people in the wider area. it appears that russian troops made that real push to try and start the battle of kyiv. as you say, they were repelled outside the outskirts. ukraine is doing a remarkable job holding back particularly those armored convoys in those tanks. it does suggest that putin's forces will face a long athletic campaign to take the capital. they are likely to bomb indiscriminately as they have done elsewhere before moving in. ukrainians have now estimate that ukrainian has lost some 12,000 soldiers. along with 81 head helicopters. president zelenskyy today
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appealed to russian soldiers to go home. >> you can still save yourselves if you just go home. do not believe your commanders who say that you will still have a chance ukraine. nothing but president out death await to hear. you are taking our lives it will pay with yours. >> has destroyed almost 3,000 ukrainian military facilities. they also claimed that the maternity hospital yesterday was one of them and it had been used by ukrainian militia. images of pregnant women suggest elsewhere. three died there, including a small girl. civilians continue to plea plate towards the relative safety of the capital but inside the streets lie empty. fewer than 2 million people in here. it is a tragedy what is happening here. the great fear is that some of those scenes will be repeated in the capital city itself at that death toll continues to rise for the russians. the hope is that public opinion
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back home in russia can turn eventually against putin though now it shows no signs of going that way. he is continuing full strength ahead. >> imagine if elon musk hadn't been putting those starling satellites up to help ukraine communicate and take in information from the rest of the world. putin might own all of the skies in that sense them up but he can't get it. he can't have it. i mentioned i was talking with oh ukrainian warrior who stayed behind to fight inside kyiv. he said that the resolve of them is great, but they need more. what are you hearing on the ground? >> they do need more. they need everything they can get their hands on. at the moment they have quite a good supply of the javelins, 17,000 of those have come in over the last ten days or so where they've got a fair amount
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of stingers. the concern is the supply lines will get cut off. if putin's forces managed to come around and cut off the southern part of they are definitely trying to get more supplies and up it they said they will fight with whatever they've got left. you see the old woman here even saying give us a few molotov cocktails, we will throw them from our window says the troops walk in. give us your old hunting rifles and we will shoot from the windows. they will fight with whatever they've got. of course they want what they can get and they want the best equipment they can. so they could help repel this russian army. >> you mentioned those that are there now are the ones with the will to fight and the ability to fight it but tell us about the vulnerable that are left behind at this moment they couldn't attack escape. perhaps the special needs can communities come of those pregnant women who are in hospital and what is going on with them and how are they being taken care of while others have
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left that could? >> there were concerted efforts to get as many of them to safety as possible. in cities like kyiv most of them have been taken out. but you look at a city like mary a poll who is totally besieged, 400,000 people live there and people are unable to get out whether they are infirm, elderly, or sick. this is an indiscriminate war. they will attack you regardless. but there is growing concern for people who are struggling to move, struggling to get out, that applies to orphans as well. tens of thousands of orphans have nowhere to go and are trying to make their way to the polish borders. but it is -- seeing it firsthand the people playing with nowhere to go, taking only the things they can carry is one of the most heartbreaking stories i have covered. as a father myself seeing the children leave everything they know is very difficult.
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it continues by the thousands, the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, the number just keeps growing. >> benjamin, kayleigh here, it's really quite impressive what the ukrainians are able to do to protect kyiv. there was a report that in the northwest ukrainians managed to send out five russian tactical groups. those have anywhere from 60800 soldiers. we really have this -- when you combine that with the fact that is one form former u.k. officer told the times of london, russians or something in the equivalent of freezers will might in those tanks, these are tough conditions to sit in. do you think there's any indication that the russian soldiers are losing the will to fight in some regard? >> absolutely. a lot has been written about the morale of russian troops. we now know they are conscripts. these are young soldiers, 18 years old, who didn't realize
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they were coming into this country for an invasion of your they thought they would be welcomed as liberators. morale among them is low. although the reports for the last two years have been that russia was building up its forces here, that they had modernized, that's not the case. you see a lot of these tanks are dilapidated, old, antiquated. ukrainians have had remarkable success. we talk about civilians soldiers, but the soldiers on the front lines are the professional soldiers. don't forget coming back to 2014 many of the men in this country have fought in the east against russian invasion there. a lot of ukrainians have experience on the battlefield. it is remarkable speaking to many of them just how prepared they are, this is not a mixed a mismatch of soldiers coming together. everyone is willing to fight and there are are also some incredibly trained battle hardened fighters and those of the ones they are encountering right now.
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>> you know it's so fascinating about reno, remember the beginning when biden and crew were trying to figure out exactly when they made it -- oh, no, they're going to wait until later in march when things are worse, that whether, from what i understand talking with people on the ground every day is getting worse. and it benefits the people who lived there, not the invaders for the very conditions that kayleigh was talking about. we see them collecting chickens on video. have you seen this on social media? phil go to peoples houses and take whatever food. taking whatever they can find because they weren't prepared for this. >> that comes back to logistical issues as well. one of the things the russians have not been able to do or resupply their troops up front. what we've seen the tanks do is actually all stay on the road. that's made them a lot easier targets for the ukrainians. they thought they would wait for the ground to be frozen so they
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could move to the fields and sped up yet they're not, they are lined up and long lines. it holds them in place, so yes, clear mistakes according to experts about how the russians have handled it. some people think that actually the russian military was not an offensive unit that they are learning real-time that they were not as advanced and prepared as they thought they were. the fact is they've got numbers. they've got your scale and they can just keep throwing more soldiers and tanks -- >> and they will adjust. >> they will adjust and learn. you're right. >> benjamin hall, thank you very much. i want to straightaway go to leslie marshall and jason chaffetz. leslie, we will start with you. so much has changed for the conditions on the ground now. because we are not stepping in at poland behest. just to give them the go-ahead to go and do something. we are telling them do not go help. >> well we are not telling the polls not to go help because
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polish americans are on buses -- >> you know what i mean, make 29's, i'm not talking about humanitarian help. >> i'm getting to that. sorry, my earpiece followed. i'm getting to that. i trust our pentagon, because they are calling the shots of the greatest military in the world, the united states military. it is not just the united states or sing wait, poland, there are a couple of reasons for this. one, you are entering airspace that russia would perceive, possibly, as us -- and not just us, but nato allies, as starting a war. that could end up becoming a world war iii, if you will. in addition, this particular aircraft, the ukrainians are not trained in that. they would have to be trained and have time to do that. so there are logistics, they are saying is not tenable but it's not just the united states. our pentagon -- this is not just
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jill biden going no, this is the pentagon advising no, and our nato allies as well. and poland recognizes that. >> all right, they are so close to the board is that of those planes are on the ground in poland, you see a fighter jet -- i've seen one pulled. i've lived where they pulled them right on the base. they can pull them across if they needed to. they can take off from inside of ukraine, then you get over that. i've had generals who recently tell me that some of the best fires of that generation of big 29 are in fact ukrainians. jason? >> look, i want the ukrainians to have the most lethal powers as they possibly can. the russians a bit off more than they can possibly chew. the world is understanding that russia is far exceeded any justification whatsoever. the humanitarian pictures that we see that is just so difficult
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to watch. i think ukrainians need to be supplied, get them those javelins. it was so glad to hear that 17,000 of those have gone in. just keep doing it. ukrainians are making us proud. it's hard to get real-time what is misinformation, what is real? when you start seeing those pictures and you see those russian tanks just devastated by the side of the road -- and i would be fascinated to know if those 18-year-old russians, why do they think they are there? what's going on back in russia with all the moms, the dads, and the families? do they know what's really going on there? >> such a great question. i want to get your response to an answer that ukrainian volunteers soldier gave when asked if the tactic of hitting hospitals and children might break the spirit. watch this. >> will definitely his getting the opposite because it's getting more and more -- if that
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is the tactic meant to frighten us, then he's reaching absolutely the opposite. however, it's just one more indication for something that ukrainians have known for quite a while that russia and putin is just a terrorist. >> kayleigh? >> so putin is getting exactly the opposite. he up that will pop up and say a pregnant mother walking down the stairs after that hospital was hit. when you see images like this, what do you thing it does to the people of ukraine? it emboldens time when they see a mother with a plastic bag, all of her goods in the plastic bag, pregnant and wash walking down the stairs. the only reason those magnet women survive is because they were in the basement giving birth in the basement. and that protected them. he reminds of the cancer
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hospital where the kids have to interrupt their treatment with chemotherapy five times per day to go down into the basement because they hear the maniacal dictator, vladimir putin, will attack their hospital. >> we have another -- in mariupol a man carrying his child away. the heartbreak can really not be overstated. to your point, this is why the mayor -- the deputy mayor of mary paul says he is absolutely sure the russians knew they were bombing a hospital. he said this is the third hospital they have destroyed after that the reader bed covid unit and a blood bank were targeted on tuesday. this as well as president zelenskyy singh it's an atrocity, work crime, he says it's the ultimate proof of against the ukrainians. all of this together, all of the dem devastation commits absolutely difficult to watch and talk about -- i cannot imagine what it is like to be living it right now as they beg
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for help on a global stage. >> jason chaffetz brought up the point that you hope the russians are seeing this, the russian citizens. we do know there's someone something called father believe commits a stream was streaming platform on youtube. it's by a young man who couldn't get his father to believe what was going on. he was living inside ukraine a week ago. he's putting out information to try and convince people like his father that this is the truth. god bless them. coming up, the white house warning that russia could unleash chemical weapons in ukraine. as vladimir putin continues his attack on civilian. as a struggling actor, i need all the breaks that i can get. at liberty butchumal- cut. liberty biberty- cut. we'll dub it. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ i brought in ensure max protein, with thirty grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks!
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>> putin's forces ramping up their indiscriminate attacks on civilians. meanwhile the white house's warning that russia could use chemical or biological weapons on the ukrainian people, or could create a false flag operation using them. jason chaffetz, let's get your thoughts on this. >> well the reason to think that is because russia has done this before. look at the past, look at what they did in syria, look at the history of russia. they are ruthless. they have no morals when it comes to this at all. they are the attackers in this situation. these vacuum bombs we read about and learn about it, chemical weapons, i don't put it past them at all. they're going to use anything and everything they have. i want the world to understand how dangerous this is and how
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unprecedented. it's just absolutely devastating. i hope they don't do it, but they have a history of doing it. >> leslie, we have confirmation that the russians have been using vacuum bombs in ukraine, but president zelensky said he called the bluff that shows that nothing else is working. your take? >> i have to say that from everything i've read on the experts regarding vladimir putin that he certainly would not stand back from nuclear weapons. i agree with jason, this is a man that will stop at nothing and who wants to upset the world order. in the last segment jason had spoken to the people of russia at what they are being told. harris touched upon that as well. i interviewed somewhere on the ground the other day. here are some things they are being told. one, we are not blowing up
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nuclear facilities, we are putting the fire out. two, the ukrainians are bombing their own hospitals. three, those are actors, not real people you see bleeding or fleeing. four, this is fake news and neo-nazis are doing this. i cried when i saw what harris talked about, that man in ukraine who said dad, they are bombing us. they are so brainwashed by this propaganda pair they also have propaganda that we are creating these types of weaponry within ukraine. that is absolutely false. >> kayleigh, we have a tweet but up by jen psaki, she says that now that russia has made these false claims and china has endorsed this propaganda, we should all be on the lookout for russia to possibly use chemical or biological weapons in ukraine or to create a false flag operation using them. it's a clear pattern. >> yeah, rush is doing exactly what leslie just said. we have seen this before.
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they accused their adversary of being responsible. something interesting that's changed is what jen psaki is doing with that tweet, the institute of the study of war because it prebunking. what they mean by that is sharing intelligent so that it cannot be weaponized as misinformation. so in advance of a chemical weapons attack you say that russia could do this because so it doesn't allow misinformation to settle in worldwide. really interesting strategy. it's hard to overstate how much of a shift it represents. diligence is closely guarded around the world. one will visuals are publicly locked but in this case we've seen the white house say they are certain putin will invade with this chemical weapon information. i do think it's a smart strategy. however, i would not preby sharing your battle plans as we have seen the white house to repeatedly. sharing intelligence is a smart move, showing your battle plans not so much. >> what you're saying is it's not just sharing battle plans,
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it sharing the things that you will not do. those are supposed to be the deterrence and the conversation. when you take your weaponry, when you take your tools off the table it doesn't matter how much prebunking that you do if you are not willing to leave the weapons on the table as a possibility is something, anything. you can't stop him from what he is doing. right now you have to slow them down and you have to give the ukrainians a chance to fight. clearly they couldn't fight. >> that's right. all right, guys, moving forward vice president harris says the u.s. and poland remain united for their support of ukraine despite the pentagon's rejection of the fighter jet proposal. that is next. stay with us.
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>> vice president kamala harris faces a big diplomatic test and her trip to poland, especially
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since the united states just nicked the polish plans to send fighter jets to ukraine. she was asked about that today during her joint news conference to the president of poland. she seemed to dodge the question. >> what kind of alternative plan does the united states have to get materials to help ukraine defend itself? especially now that you have declined poland's offer on jets? >> i want to be very clear. the united states and poland are united in what we've done and are prepared to do to help ukraine and the people of ukraine. full stop. >> they have not been united when poland came out with a totally different planet was rebuffed by the white house, but i want to take us down a brief walk down. >> if the polish government, a nato member, wants to send fighter jets, doesn't like it a
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green light from the u.s.? or are you afraid that will escalate tension? >> like it's a green light. >> leslie, what changed between sunday and tuesday. >> i think the pentagon made a phone call and our nato allies. remember, the united states is not the only one that said we do not want to transport into that airspace. putin, russia -- quite frankly that would give putin some of the amount to his false rhetoric and his propaganda he is telling his people here he's telling 18-year-olds and younger that are going into ukraine that would justify these lies. when you look at not tenable because the way we transport into the airspace. ukraine's air force is very small right now. i'm not saying were not going to send more. one more thing, i agree with what harris said earlier, you
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don't show them your cards. you can have some intelligence, you don't say this is what were going to do are not going to do. i think the vice president was doing just that. because there is a lot going on with our allies, poland included, that we the people are not aware of as of yet. >> that's also given literal ammo to the ukrainians who say they need this. jason chaffetz, i want to move on to the do another take away. an interesting nuance and where and she talks about war crimes from the polish president. let's take a look. >> the u.n. has set up a process by which there will be a review and investigation. >> it's obvious to us that in ukraine, russians are committing war crimes. they also have the proof on their smartphones.
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>> so harris says it could be a violation, jason chaffetz. the president think in no uncertain times -- >> not that is harris. i want my name back. >> jason, look at this. this is a war crime. this is a maternity hospital that was deliberately targeted. you don't need a u.n. investigation to tell us that we are looking at a war crime. this is a war crime. why can't we have that moment from the biden administration? >> just call it out. call it like it is. you're looking at the pictures and you have the evidence that's there. just call it and say it what it is. as in, we want the vice president of the united states to do welcome especially when she's overseas. but quite frankly she's just not very good at this. she's trying to memorize them line from some briefing paper decided the u.n. is going to come up with some commission. couple that with her cackling in the way that she laughed saw some serious things about refugees and it's a total embarrassment.
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>> right, there were no deliverables in her script but she did deliver this moment, harris. let's watch. >> is the united states willing to make a specific allocation for ukrainian refugees? >> a friend in need is a friend in need. >> odd timing here. if you let that play out a little bit you see you see the polis leaders put his hand up where we give the child a look like really have to stop. he was trying to keep her from laughing more. then he said to the translator the serious point i was trying to get you to see. he schooled our vice president like can you dial up i can be serious in this moment? it is so uncomfortable to watch and i've said it before, someone who comes to school without studying. she is a talented litigator. you lived in her state, you know
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as attorney general of california that she has some gifts. but my goodness, what happened? why do we have so many gaps? more gaps than gifts. i'm now quoting senator john kennedy from louisiana. got the gifts, got the gaps, one outweighs the other arena. the big question for joe biden is as the president of the united states, why did you send her? that said, that is all. >> meanwhile the ukrainian former press secretary saying it would be a tragedy of this woman won the presidency based on that moment. emily, what is seared in my mind -- this was more than a year ago, they said compared to the current occupant of the oval office, harris comes to the vice presidency job with the new fido foreign policy. paris has also had weekly lunches with secretary of state
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antony blinken a veteran of foreign policy and national security official. goes on to make the point that essentially she comes in with no experience. she's having these lunches with lincoln. i don't want the person having lunches with lincoln going to stop world war iii. i'd like maybe blinking >> that's right. i thought you were so generous in your last comment right there about her. frankly i'm sick of being absolutely embarrassed by her behavior. an absolutely mortified by the lack of experience that the inability to articulate with any modicum of seriousness to rise to the occasion as people arising the country being decimated, to have some semblance of professionalism pertaining to the office she hold. i'm so tired of everything she does on the public stage. i have to point out from her reservations here for some reason about what we'll see as were crimes of the minimum horrible atrocities, how is it that when she watched the united states border patrol using an acceptable policy method further protocols to help her that whatever it was, but she called that horrible, deeply
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troubling, there needs to be consequences and accountability, and that human beings should not be treated that way. why doesn't she have that same fervor to be to the pregnant women coming to the children commit to the youth, everyone in ukraine is pictures are undeniable. why can't she come out with the same strength of force and say human beings should not be treated this way. not on the united states watch. >> and just to say this, the white house on the vice president use the word. we know they elevated that moment politically whether they intended to or not. so do efficiently. it already tore apart a country that was being torn apart over the border issues. i think the answer to your question lies in what jason chaffetz was saying. she has been giving some talking points and some things to say. that is what she is doing. she has carried the message to
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poland next door handbag. she walks in, she's got a bag and some notes. it is sad. it takes a type of presence. you don't have to have served, but you have to be curious enough to know that your decision, what you say next to a guy who's willing now potentially to unleash chemical weapons, we knew what trump would do. i saw the uss monterey when it came back, that all woman crew came back and hit syria with those missiles after syria unleashed chemical weapons. who was his partner and all that? vladimir putin. so we have to take him at his word. he is able. what we are living the right now with propaganda three thursdays ago. he says he might do it, why don't we take him seriously and send somebody seriously curious enough to be ready for that moment? >> i will say at least she did not attempt to speak with a polish accent as we try to make
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a british accent in france. >> you can't make that up. >> i've zero expectations are hope professionalism. we will see. speak all right, fox news alert. we are getting video out of ukraine showing emergency workers using what appears to be a russian explosive. using just their bare hands and, reportedly, a bottle of water. you can see the worker, who does not appear to be wearing protective clothing. we do not yet know when or where this video was filmed. emily, it is amazing to look at these images and see in many ways citizens on the front line, it it really is the ukrainian military, but these are people who exemplify the bravery. we heard about the grandmothers with the molotov cocktails. this is a whole country effort from the military that has been remarkable. >> and it underscores to me that i need that they have for more help, right? the fact that they are doing
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this with what looks like they and protective gloves and barely anything else. what they do not lack in spirit and fighting attributes, that warrior spirit, the warrior heart, they are clearly lacking in equipment in more ways that we can help. that is incredibly eye-opening to see this. really an incredible video to be watching. it makes my heart beat a lot faster. i cannot imagine what it feels like to be that person there in their mind, the fate of the country is in their hands. i commented is continuing to be thrown around that if russia loses they lose the war. if ukraine loses they lose their country. >> harris, rooted putting their uc even the presidential palace -- putting his life on the line and the citizens are quite clearly doing the same. >> i think we need more information about these images of what they called dumb bombs coming in. and dismantling of all that. i do have a high level of
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curiosity myself on what is really landing. if we are starting to see many of these -- what is going on with the russian army? oh, my goodness. you have stuff landing over there that are relics basically. is that the truth? how dangerous is it? are there many of these dumb bombs? where is it coming from? i think that would tell us a lot about why you see a little bit of the stall, lack of fighting right now the ground in kyiv, are they regrouping? if they are, maybe this is part of the reason why. >> may be so. we will move on, the biden administration in crisis. inflation surging a whopping 7.9% in february and pushing prices to highs not seen in four decades. meanwhile gas prices have also exploded. the national average is now $4.31 per gallon. up from $2.81 a year ago. 859-cent increase in just a week. $0.84 above last month.
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white house refusing to take any responsibility, going so far as to release this video, blaming high gas prices on russia. >> the reality is that russia is one of the three largest oil producers in the world. the fact that they have started this conflict, invaded a foreign country, and they are such a big producer of oil in the world, is the reason why the global oil markets are disturb right now in why your gas prices are going up. >> leslie, they are calling at the putin gas spike. certainly as psaki has said before facts can be inconvenient. in this case inconvenient for the white house. this chart shows gas prices were on the prize long before this happened. you can see they were on the rise he has, what's happening to russia contribute it, but this is long before the war began. it was the start of biden
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presidency? >> putin happens and the inflation has been on the rise prior to biden administration be at highest it was in over a decade. when we look at gas prices though, during the trump administration -- i am a liberal democrat, when people were blaming the former president for increased gas prices at that time i actually said he's not to blame, nor is joe biden up at the reason for that is the price of oil is decided on the global market. the united states doesn't make that decision. although people will talk about drilling and things like keystone pipeline, that would not, especially currently, bring down the price. russia, and what they have done with the invasion, and most recently with the biden administration is done banning russian imports of oil, gas, et cetera, that is certainly -- as the president tsai -- this is going to affect us even more so at the pumps. fortunately seven in ten americans are say were willing to pay more to support the people of ukraine and not to
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take anything from vladimir putin and trump or russia when it comes to fossil fuels. so that is one thing. the other thing is we do have to look at -- we are the largest producer of oil in the world. >> are not producing it. >> >> jason, it's all basic supply and demand. you increase the supply of the oil in the price comes down. of course drilling in our own country, of course increasing domestic supply is going to alleviate pain at the pump. by the way, the inflation has nothing to do with the trillions of spending that biden has spent. >> look, they want joe biden shut down the keystone pipeline. on day one the president shut down explorations. i think 19 million acres of land up in alaska. he's done -- environmentally social governance.
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he's putting pressure on banks not to fund projects. shutting down some of the permitting process, even though -- there is no record that joe biden has done anything to encourage energy development in the united states. democrats purposely wanted to higher gas prices, they got those higher prices. americans are paying the price because they want the green new deal. they want high gas prices so they can justify windmills and everything else they want with the green new deal. >> nailed it, jason chaffetz, as always. coming up the white house expected to be given briefing any minute now. we'll bring it to you live when it happens. the next, poland opening its arms to ukrainian refugees. fox news is on the ground at the polish border. we'll take you there next. it's's my only interest. i also love cooking with heart-healthy, idaho potatoes. always look for the grown in idaho seal.
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>> vice president harris' visit to poland overshadowed -- lindsey graham says biden fiddles well ukraine burns. i will join us come along with nikki haley, congresswoman and volodymyr zelensky's former aide, yuliya mundell. it's a jam-packed two hours of coverage and america reports. i'm john roberts. join sandra smith to me at the top of the hour. we will see you then.
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>> putin's brutal assault on ukraine has created a massive refugee crisis of more than 2 million ukrainians who have fled their homes seeking safety in neighboring countries. more than half of those refugees are making their way to poland, where the polish people are welcoming them with open arms. alex hogan's live from poland at a train station at the border. alex? >> hi, emily. this is the translation and michelle. behind me you can see families just across the border who are huddling together waiting for their next steps. the threat of war on european soil has made this crisis much more personal for people across the continent, but especially here in poland, which is welcomed 1.4 million people. >> i woke up maybe at 5:00 a.m. from explosions. i didn't understand what's going. i thought that maybe i'm dreaming. speak with the dream most people
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say they've not woken up from. but ukrainians have frankly said they are overwhelmed when they arrive here. there receiving so much support. take a look at all of these boxes of fresh hot meals they are now passing up to anyone who needs them. meanwhile the people who are here who have arrived they say the journeys they have been through our harrowing. they are asking the rest of the world to stand with them. >> we have great support from foreign countries. so thank you. >> katerina and her family arrived from poland today. they tell me that they instantly felt safer and more calm. they rented an apartment in warsaw. they do not know how long they'll be there. they are hoping it will only be necessary for about a month. now when they are packing up their lives i asked them what could you possibly bring when you know there might not be home to go back to. they said they brought the money
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they could carry them at their documents, and forget all the things that we spend on thinking about tangible objects that we covet and collect. the only brought form close and there two little dogs. >> alex hogan, stay safe and think he is always for your excellent reporting. >> we are getting ready to go to the white house now. we are inside of a two-minute warning for that press briefing. jen psaki, white house press secretary in the hot seat yet again. kayleigh mcenany, you have been in this place many, many times for something big in the world is happening, not this particular situation, but as i mentioned president trump saul all sorts of things with bad acting russia and syria. he never took anything off the table. no doubt that jen psaki is going to be asked about those make 29 spirit she is in the military so it will be interesting to see if she touts the same talking points as vice president, harris. >> harris can we make a key point. if on the press secretary i would've been paying attention to a political article that just
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came out on the makes come as you noted. it takes is inside the decision of the biden administration. when lance has skeptics inside the biden administration push back on the idea of green letting the transfer of poland rig 29 fighters to ukrainian president joe biden sided with those skeptics. so we have that sound bite that we played were is that i am green letting it. president biden decides to fight with them. >> here's what i know is nuanced about that. this isn't like the generals the prospect before we exited afghanistan. they probably would've told us that. i think america needs transparency now. we need to know who the president is listening to. we found out in congressional hearings that he was not listening to the generals. the ignoring another pack of generals, who are they skeptics? i think that's a fair question. i think it's time for some transparency. someone at that lectern who actually understands how to move a make across a border besides flying it. let's watch jen psaki.
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>> biological and chemical weapons program. so it is a pattern that they also have the capacity. i'm not going to get into specific intelligence. we look at all of those factors. we also note -- one of the main issues that prompted my twitter thread yesterday was that russia has a history also of inventing lies like this, which is a suggestion that the united states has a chemical and biological weapons program, or ukraine does that they are operating. russia is the one in the country that has a chemical and biological weapons program. so the objective is to make clear and make clear to the world are they not only have the capacity, they have a history of using chemical and biological weapons. in this moment we should have our eyes open for that possibility. >> with those chemical or
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biological weapons via redline for this presidency? >> we are directly involved. we are the largest provider of that, we are providing them with the u.s. military engaging in ukraine and fighting a war against russia. we don't have any intention to do that. >> the defense intelligence agency told congress today that his agency underestimated ukraine's military department. does the white house try that? >> we do. i think the world does. i mean i think what we saw the preparations of president boudin and the russian military on the borders of ukraine we saw the power of the russian military. we saw the intentions of president boudin. i don't think anybody anticipated the level of courage or bravery or capacity to fight back that we have seen in this
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country. at the same time we've also seen some miscalculations by president boudin as well in terms of that capacity and willingness, but also in terms of their own planning and logistics of their military. >> can you just talk a little bit about the state of the bill yesterday. how confident that you also get that money? >> well we need this money. so without additional resources from congress, results are dire. just to give you some specifics, and march testing capacity will decline in this month. in april pretesting for millions of americans without health insurance will end. so failing to take action now will have severe consequences for the american people.
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that is why we requested $22.5 billion to avoid severe disruptions to our covid response. the reason we've made the progress we have at this point is because we have and ahead of where the pandemic is in terms of having the preparations for the most part of vaccines come of supplies needed, and we want to continue to stay ahead of that if we can. these are conversations. as you will know it's been reported out that are happening with members. but we will need that funding in order to continue to fight the pandemic. go ahead. >> are you detecting any signs that we can use chemical weapons over there? >> i'm not going to get into any intelligence. obviously we continue to assess the declassification of that. as you know we've done through the course of the last several weeks. but what we endeavored to do when we put up that information yesterday is to remind the world of the large biological and
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chemical weapons program that russia has. the fact that they have used it in the past against dissidents on their soil and on nato soil, that they -- and that they were taking a step too went up misinformation about our own programs capacity with ukrainians as well. >> did they discuss access -- do you know? >> no we did put out a readout that you shall have. they had a constructive and lengthy call. believe it was almost an hour, if not an hour. the president is very grateful to the role the turkey is playing and has played even earlier today and hosting diplomatic negotiations in if russia does conduct a chemical weapons attack in ukraine there will not be a military response from the united states? >> what we are saying right now, they have the capacity and the
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capabilities. i'm not going to get into intelligence but the president's intention of sending u.s. military to fight in ukraine against russia has not changed. >> even if there is a chemical weapons attack, the calculus will not change? i want to be clear what the response would be. >> we are conveying to all of you what the capabilities are. the steps they have taken in past. the president and our nato partners have not changed their assessment about their plans to send u.s. troops in. >> president biden let a chemical weapons attack in ukraine go unanswered by the united states. >> we have not let anything go unanswered to date. we have not let anything go unanswered to date, any steps that president putin has taken to date. what that would look like, i can't give you assessment of that from here. >> one other question. the u.s. says their assessment is ukraine has

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