supplies, medical clothing and special salute spear heading these efforts and others around our country. tomorrow on "special report," the latest on the ukrainian situation. the humanitarian efforts we will have expert analysis as well. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for this "special report" fair balance and still unafraid. "jesse watters primetime" starts right now. jesse? >> thank you so much, bret. we start with a fox news alert. there is real rage coming out of the kremlin tonight after three weeks of shelling and bombing ukraine, vladimir putin's falling short of executing his grand plan. seizing the capital of kyiv. he is turning his rage into reckless and bruit force making it clear to the world that he's not going to follow anybody's rules. as he turns ukraine into an absolute killing field.

[explosion] >> jesse: as tanks ramp up their push into kyiv, we are seeing as many as 2 million ukrainian civilians running for their lives. attempting to flee the capital. and you can see the fear in their eyes. they know what comes next, the kind of massacre putin's troops will bring. others aren't giving up so quickly. they are staying behind. turning their city into what their mayor calls a fortress. regular civilians putting on uniforms and picking up machine guns. willing to risk it all and die on the battlefield. in their fight against the russian invaders. so far? that resilience is what is keeping kyiv intact. as ukrainian guerrilla warfare has become a real headache for putin's ambitious takeover, catching the russian army completely off guard and tactically outplaying them. as they outflank and outmaneuver pumping every bit of artillery

that kyiv has in war chest right into russian aircraft and missile launchers. [explosion. [explosion] and they are forcing russian intruders out of kyiv. earlier today a ukrainian artillery ambush completely obliterated part of a russian tank and armored vehicle column just a few miles outside of the capital. as the russian army closes in for the final siege of the capital, they are paying a pretty heavy price. picking up some russian dog tags while they're at it, killing one of putin's most trusted military

leaders, a commander of russia's tank regiment. coming right after two russian generals were killed by forces in kyiv. adding onto the growing list of slain russian military leaders. and they are forcing putin dissheffield army in kyiv to completely abandon ship. even leaving tanks behind to add on to ukraine's fire power. >> as putin tries to compensate for his losses in kyiv by shedding blood throughout the rest of ukraine, we're seeing some of the most horrifying images coming out of ukraine yet. streets filled with scenes of ukrainians starving to death. having to resort to fighting over food, to looting pharmacies

and stores just looking for supplies. gored to boil snow to have water to drink. and cut down trees to burn and use as a stove. there is little civilization left after weeks of atrocities. people on their last breath as putin's forces close off on their cities and choke off their supply lines, these forces are ruthlessly going in and massacring these people, dropping bombs on their homes and on buildings. [explosion]

>> and bodies are piling up on ukrainian streets. civilians are being left to push these hundreds of bodies into freshly dug mass graves without ceremony. >> families separated, parents dead, and now putin has turned his forces into complete savages, who are supposedly now targeted and stealing children. >> all is bombed. there is a lot of my toys which i left behind. my parents didn't let me go out on the street because the russians are stealing children. >> jesse: these kids just want this to end and just hoping that they can is a moment like this girl when reuniting with her family meant the world.

vladimir putin has no plans of holding back now. it's clear that he has become more ruthless the more desperate he gets. the more losses his military pilsz up, the more willing he will be to behave like a terrorist. and what's next? is unpredictable. state department correspondent benjamin hall is live from kyiv. benjamin? >> hi, jesse. i think you laid it out very well though. two sides, military and humanitarian one. they are inextricably tied together. on the one hand big surprise for everyone except perhaps the ukrainians is just how pour the russian advance has been. that is number of factors. people are surprised just how dilapidated the russian army has been. lot of people before this conflict talked about how they spent the last decade putting

billions into their armed forcing training them up. a lot of tanks are rusty. they are breaking down. they don't have the white threads, the tires are popping. secondly the conscript, the people fighting for them at the front tend to be 18-year-olds who didn't expect to be coming into ukraine. morale low. hit left and right by javelin missiles and none of them are fighting terribly effectively. other hand tactics, one ukrainian soldier saying it felt like 1941 and they kept making the same mistakes plowing down road head on straight to the opposing forces peaking it easy for the hit the front, hit the back and you stop the convoy. they have done that very successfully, too. also questions about where the reconnaissance units are any western military would have little units moving ahead the big convoys figuring out where the enemy is, where the traps might be laid that seems to be all vanished here. these convoys are moving so low

without a sight of what is ahead. ukrainians with their military and javelins and stingers which have been remarkably effective. it is their ability and optimism here. what we are seeing now is a stalemate. remarkable that 14 days in the russians have not been able to take over the southern entry to this city. and still they remain unable to do so. they are -- they have moved forward a couple of miles in the last 24 hours but they are stuck right now. and then on the other hand, as you laid out, we have the humanitarian crisis. that is connected to the russian forces are not making the progress they want. indiscriminately becoming in. we screen it in this country and other condition flicks putin has engaged in from syria to chechnya. lot about those but it is his playbook. another interesting thing today is now the discussion of the chemical weapons could he use

chemical weapons justification for this war? what comes out of this is the suggestion does the west have to get more involved? is it there a red line that putin could cross that would toledo some kind of further involvement. it was a question that just a week ago was answered by the biden administration very clearly no, there was no way that anyone was come in. u.s. forces were not going to fight here. u.s. jets are not going to be nearby in the airspace wasn't going to be closed that seems to be slightly shifting. do you hear more voices saying there will be a line at which the west has to get involved. and i think one of the significant changes what we saw yesterday. yes, there had been brutality and horror on our screens the last two exwould. but the bombing of that maternity hospital yesterday, really flipped the switch taken out of the rubble maternity hospital. children losing their parents, that switched something.

i think we are entering a new phase here. and it's questionable how long vladimir putin has before he loses -- loses everything. and doubles down like a cornered rat does he lash out or will he be pushed back. we'll find out, jesse? >> jesse: great reporting as always. let's bring in lieutenant colonel daniel davis senior fellow at defense priorities. you heard our reporter, ben, say that ukrainians have fought the russians to a stalemate outside the capital. now, don't sugar coat this. hit me with the truth. is there a chance that this stalemate could continue and they do not lay siege to the capital? >> >> that's what we hope. but i will tell you, as a former officer myself who has fought in heavy armored combat, i am shocked at the small and the low level of just basic understanding of how tactics are

done that the russian tanks after so much opportunity to just see how the u.s. has fought with tanks would have such horrible tactics that allow them to be blown up like that. so that does call into question just how effective they can be. now, i do put a caveat on it though in the south there does still seem to be a lot of success for the russian armed forces. some success. they continue to make methodical progress. if they're able to close off some of the passages down there and cut off the ukrainian armed forces it's possible they could move up later. we are talking a couple of weeks there doesn't seem to be much risk right now that the russians can make an effective march of the forces they have on the west and the north. >> jesse: south is another story. let's focus here again on the capital. because that's the grabbed price. if you can't have tanks push in to the capital because they keep getting hit with javelins, and they can't communicate and they can't supply them how are they

going to get the russian forces inside and surround the capital on foot? >> well, again, the one aspect is the tactical incompetence. this is actually the theater level incompetence. they shouldn't have even attempted this. they maybe should have had a holding effort, the russian should have had a holding effort in those areas where they were until they were able to set the conditions and move the rest of the forces up so they could hit it all together from three or four different directions. but never are not doing that and they are just losing their power by these small scale incursions that are getting knocked out. so it does call into question really across the board what they can do. there is a danger to that too. because as you kind of allude loaded to just a second ago. if putin starts to feel pressured and panicked, that it's not working and is he going to risk losing. he may increase the fire power and use more indiscriminate mat bombing and air power. that's the real risk what i'm

going to be looking for. >> jesse: you are looking at the performance so far after the first two weeks. if you are a nato state and you are romania, you are poland and right on the border. you are probably not as scared as you were before the invasion. are you not as scared of the russian army after what you have seen? >> absolutely. i couldn't more strongly agree with that one of the perverse i guess benefits to western security after this is the exposure that russia's conventional forces are nowhere near as strong as what he what we thought you see germany spending $100 billion on their conventional forces and defense spend something rising among all the nations around because they don't want to ever be caught short like this. but it's clear that if russia can't even handle one relatively minor force part of one country, they have zero chance of having a 30 member nato block. but the real risk that we have to be careful of, we can't get

too excited about that because, again, if putin feels pressured, then you have the risk if it expands beyond the borders into nuclear exchange. that is the one thing we have to make sure we keep this contained in there so that it doesn't go out. if we can just keep it contained, putin will weaken himself for a decade or more after this thing is over. >> jesse: so that's the proxy war strategy that we have talked about. and i guess that seems to be working but at the cost of just countless lives and billions of dollars to the ukrainian people and the economy. the world economy. so, the nato is flexing our muscles? we have some war exercises taking place in estonia. i think they put out even some footage of it. there is going to be large scale nato war games taking place next week. tens of thousands of soldiers in norway. is that enough, lieutenant

colonel? or would you like to see more action maybe on the black sea? maybe in the air? something a little bit more to show the russians that we are not going to tolerate bombing in a turbulent wards and be this is unacceptable? >> oh, believe me, that message is already going through. and these exercises reinforce that because the one thing that was before all this incursion took place is there was lots of disputes and disagreements among nato that's all gone. putin brought us together like nobody else okay right now you see military, you see political and economic coordination like we haven't seen in a decade or more in nato. and this shows that all of our forces are in complete, total power and russia is being will by the day because of their incompetence. there is no question in anyone's mind. least of all putin's, that he cannot each touch us conventionally. >> jesse: before we let you go, if putin uses chemical or

biological weapons, how does the rest respond to that? >> man that is my biggest fear. i won't lie. because there will be so much pressure on the world and on biden to do something, and to maybe escalate into it. we just have to hold firm because as bad as this is right now, it is contained. if we go in and do something like that and we use military force and russia then expands it beyond, now you are not going to see that stuff just in kyiv and kharkiv, you will see it in warsaw offer in germany and some of other countries and god forbid a nuclear strike anywhere in nato. we just can't risk that no matter how much our heart strings pull us. we have to be firm. >> jesse: i understand. thank you very much lieutenant colonel. excellent analysis. >> always my pleasure. thank you. >> jesse: the kamala comedy tour heads to poland. [laughter]

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>> jesse: the images we are seeing out out of ukraine are making us nauseous. women and children killed in the street. burned to a crisp. ukrainians fleeing their country leaving all of their possessions behind. this is a very serious time. they need to be handled by serious people. we know this. joe biden knows this. nato knows. this so who do we send to europe at a time like this? >> we have been to the border. we have been to the border. >> you haven't been to the border. >> and i haven't been to europe. i mean. [laughter] i don't understand the point that you are making. >> jesse: well, you are in europe now, harris. it's the third time you have

been. the first time, well, she put on quite a performance. >> we campaign with the plan upper case t you were case p. the plan. we are expected to defend the plan. >> jesse: kamala's second european trip didn't go much better last month when she visited munich she didn't do a thing to discourage frurk joining nato. >> i appreciate and admire president zelenskyy's desire to join nato, and one of, again, the founding principles of nato is that each country must have the ability unimpaired, unimpeded to determine their own future. no other country can tell anyone whether they should or should not join nato. jess jets the possibility of ukraine joining nato as we know has been a driving factor of

this war. days after kamala's trip, putin invaded ukraine. biden decided to send kamala again. this time to poland and the v.p. had trouble remembering where she was. >> i am here standing here on the northern flank -- on the eastern flank, talking about what we have in terms of the eastern flank and our nato allies. >> jesse: then when she was asked about the fiasco poland she couldn't give an answer. it's a dynamic situation requires us to be nimble and swift. i mention sphwhift terms of the accountability and consequence. we also fully appreciate, we must be swift in terms of providing assistance where we can be helpful. >> jesse: i wish she could be a little more swift. kamala did not meet the moment.

no swagger, no passion, not even a big announcement or a memorable verbal slap in vlad's face. when asked about the refugee crisis, she first looked to poland's president to answer the question and then she just burst into laughter. >> i wanted to know if you think and if you asked the united states to specifically accept more refugees. >> okay. [laughter] a friend in need is a friend indeed. [laughter] >> jesse: you can't cackle while russia wages war crimes. snap out of it we are not the only ways saying this. this is tweet from president zelenskyy's former press secretary in response to kamala's wacky laughter, quote: it would be a tragedy if this woman won the presidency. kamala definitely did some

damage on this trip. putin, as you guys know, is a former kgb guy. he sees a nato alliance that didn't put its best foot forward today and perceives weakness and division. this performance could have consequences. ben shapiro is the co-founder of daily wire and he joins us now. do you think this could have an effect effect on putin and his war when he sees this type of behavior and this just bizarre cackling and, i don't know, do you think? >> i mean one thing that we know about putin is that whenever putin senses weakness he pushes forward. right now the entire safety know strategy is leverage as much force through ukraine as putin as much as possible to force him to the negotiating table. if he spots cracks in western alliance and sees the vice president of the united states struggling to answer basic questions about the status of unity for example between the united states and poland is he

figuring the longer i go on with this the quicker europe is going to crack. we are already starting to see signs of that. germans said yeah we can potentially for the moment hold off on russian oil and gas we can't do this forever. putin has to know the longer this carries on the bigger chance the west splits up. >> jesse: if the vice president of the united states doesn't know what she is talking about, does joe biden know what is he talking about? and why would joe biden send someone to nato at a time like this that doesn't know what she is talking about and can't even explain what's going on with our fighter jet supply and he has got to see that and say, wait a second, maybe they really aren't this forceful alliance that they are trying to present. do you think so he exploits this? >> i mean, i don't think there is any question he exploits that the fact that joe biden had his secretary of state on sunday saying on national television that nato was about to green light shipment of old migs to the ukrainians and then five days later the pentagon just

completely reverses that after poland requests that it go through germany rather than directly through poland and putin has to seem that as a form of weakness. i don't think it's any he miscalculated because he thought he was going to get out of this war very easily. he thought he was going to strohl into kyiv and that didn't happen. he has to figure he is in this deep. he has to keep going deeper and hope that the west cracks. somebody something like kamala harris overseas to the face of the administration never. handling of the border crisis has been solved because we sent her down to the american border -- we didn't send her to the northern border sent her to the northern triangle. she is so good at this. i won't see why we would send her to every hot spot given her track record of success. >> jesse: accepts all refugees all over the place this time she doesn't want to say sure we will take them? something is off. i think that's pretty clear. ben shapiro, daily wire, thank you so much for coming on. >> appreciate it. >> jesse: fox news alert.

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♪ >> why aren't you driving an electric car? joe biden says that's the way to go. >> i don't have $100,000. >> if i could afford one i would. >> i can't afford one. >> i can't afford electric car i will be out of money. >> biden says you are polluting if you don't drive an electric car. what do you have to say? >> how am i going to work? >> you need to keep in mind he has been rich forever. like a lot of people can't just -- oh, yeah, i'm going to 1weu67 to a tesla. >> he better focus on the gas price not about the pollution. >> jesse: it's not just your average american who doesn't want to drop 50 k on a plug-in. most democrats in washington they don't own electric cars. joe biden himself does he own an electric car? >> you guys are pushing electric vehicles today. the president who always talks about the power of our example. >> um. >>um does he own an electric vehicle? >> the president of the united states don't do a lot of driving. >> he posts video where is he revving the corvette in

wilmington he owns cars. >> he has also driven electric cars as president to give a model to the rest of the country. >> does he own one? >> i think the president's record on this is clear, peter. presidents of the united states current and when they're no longer typically are not doing a lot of driving. >> jesse: that sounds like a no to me. he might not do a lot of driving, but he does love showing off his corvette. [revving engine] >> sounds good. [squealing tires] [laughter] >> driving around in the beast, presidential cadillac limo. this is kind of like what happened with masks. remember the democrats they scold you to wear one but then they keep getting caught without wearing theirs? electric cars are the biden team's biggest talking point so we had to find out who actually owns an electric car? what about all these people?

psaki, kamala, kerry, what about mayor pete? does he drive a tesla when is he not riding his little bicycle? we reached out to the white house to find out who is driving electric and who is not? but, of course, we haven't gotten a response yet. and as for the creator and owner of the biggest electric car company in the entire world, the one who has the most to gain from biden's electric push, elon musk himself, he said it best. he tweeted: hate to say it but we need to increase oil and gas output immediately. extraordinary times demand extraordinary measures. you know things are bad whether you have the tesla guy telling us to drill, baby, drill. but joe is making sure that doesn't happen. he has made it hard for americans to drill. and now he is blaming big oil for not drilling enough.

and it's putin's fault. i am sorry it's covid's fault. so, we couldn't figure it out. so we decided to go to the source for the answer. let's bring in canary ceo a company that provides drilling and production services to u.s. oil companies and author of "switching gears, the petroleum powered electric car dan every hard. all right, dan, how difficult is it for you guys to get underneath the ground and get that oil out? you must jump through a ton of hurdles. >> >> jesse: they must throw up road block like a salamander protected or take someone out to dinner or to the department of interior.

>> there has definitely been a switch from the trump administration to the biden administration. i feel like they just keep throwing wet blankets at us. and keep trying to, you know, hold the industry back and keep us from cooking what we do every day. >> jesse: do they ever call you guys on the phone and say hey, boys, the price of gas is now almost 4.50 do they say hey, maybe you could help us out? have you heard from them? >> no, quite the opposite. but i will tell you really upsets me when they talk about this price gouging, the people i know in the oil field which supports about 11 million jobs in the u.s., they work hard every day. we go out there. we get dirty, we work very, very hard and these jobs are very difficult. and not that easy sometimes. and to just hear these people from jen psaki from the white house podium, you know go, on and on about 9,000 leases and not being drilled when she doesn't know the difference between a lease and a permit is just really frustrating. i like to invite her to north

dakota or odessa texas. come see what we do every day. come get mud on your boots find out the difference between a lease and permit. >> jesse: that should be a talking point. it's a tough job, it's a dirty job, and it's a dangerous job. and she is trying to make you guys out to be war profiteers. >> president biden we are willing to do our part. we can definitely increase american production. stop asking opec for more oil. stop asking venezuela for more oil. ask texas, ask north dakota. ask oklahoma. we can do it here with american jobs. but just get out of our way. let us have the pipelines to transport the oil. get the, you know, permits through. stop talking nonsense about leases when you guys don't know what you are talking about. and let us do it. just get out of our way. we can do it here. and we can push the price down and produce more oil right here in america. let's unleash america's energy

and do it right here right now. >> jesse: bind got out of the way on the border. it seems like he should get out of the way here in texas and north dakota. thank you so much for joining us. we really appreciate all the hard work you guys do. >> thank you. >> jesse: ukrainian biolabs, a big controversy this week. a whistleblower, is joining us next. ♪ ♪ ♪ aleve x. its revolutionary rollerball design delivers fast, powerful, long-lasting pain relief. aleve it, and see what's possible.

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>> jesse: fox news alert. hate crime hoaxer jussie smollett just sentenced to jail time. correspondent matt finn was in the courtroom just moments ago. matt? >> jesse, we were monitoring from the live feed and jussie smollett was sentenced to 150 days in jail and 30 months of probation in addition to roughly $120,000 restitution and $25,000 fine. the judge really laid in jussie smollett. just before sentencing him. saying that he took into consideration several aggravating factors. the amount of premeditation that

jussie smollett spent on this incident. the judge accused him of writing a scrismt pulling together the actors, pulling together the props. the judge said it was not a very good script. the judge also telling jussie smollett that he caused pain to real hate crime victims. also saying he did damage to the city of chicago and let's not forget what the judge said the performance on the witness stand, the judge telling jussie smollett that it was perjury, hours and hours of perjury on the witness stand. so, you know, heading into the sentencing today, there was all types of estimations of whether jussie smollett would just get, you know, some community service, maybe some probation, because he doesn't have, you know a lengthy criminal history, that no one was ultimately hurt in this case, but the judge that he did not find any of this funny, that he thinks jussie smollett's name has now become an adverb for lying. he says pulling the jussie is now something that comedians make fun of him for and he says he cannot imagine anything worse than that.

jesse? >> jesse: thank you very much. all right. about five months. thank you, i think we have some sound from inside the courtroom. let's listen. >> i am not suicidal. i am not suicidal and i'm innocent. i could have said i was guilty a long time ago. >> jesse: all right. well, still doesn't sound like has wrapped his head around what he did. last night we brought you a report on the existence of biolabs inside of ukraine. that's pretty scary since the country is being invaded by a sloppy army controlled by a delusional imperialist. the biolabs were confirmed by joe biden's under secretary of state victoria nuland in a senate hearing this week. >> does ukraine have chemical and biological weapons? >> ukraine has biological research facilities which, in fact, we are now quite concerned

russian troops -- russian forces may be seeking to gain control of. so we are working with the ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of russian forces should they approach. >> jesse: there is a lot of confusing information about all of this. any time you bring up a lab, that's what happens. so, we're going to talk about what's really happening here. the white house says there is no chemical weapons facilities inside ukraine despite what the russians are saying. >> russia has a history also of inventing outright lies like this, which is a suggestion that the united states has a chemical and biological weapons program or ukraine does that they are operating. russia is the one -- is the country that has a chemical and biological weapons program. >> jesse: russia using germs in chemical weapons is not new.

this goes all the way back to the days of the soviet union. but this is where the problem lies. back in 2005, then u.s. senators dick lugar and barack obama helped expand a pentagon program which has, in part quote assisted the ukrainian government in converting former soviet biological weapons research facilities to support peaceful and safe biological detection and diagnostic capabilities and reduce the threats posed by dangerous pathogens. so how many of these former soviet weapons labs still exist? one report from 2005 identified more than 80 research facilities scattered throughout russia and other former soviet territories. while the american security project says that nearly 3,000 tons of chemical weapons were destroyed, that are there any of them still left inside

ukraine and what types of vile pathogens are we talking about here? well, according to the "the washington post," about u.s. funding, one lab to receive funding is the ii antiplague research and scientific institute in the black sea port city of odesa. the institute was part of a cold war network of antiplague stations that supplied highly lethal pathogens to soviet bioweapons factories. the plague. that is what the soviets were looking to unleash back in the day. at one lab in uzbekistan, the u.s. eliminated 12 continues of weaponized anthrax in 2001. 12 tons. the soviet union wanted to turn the island of dr. monroe, apparently. so maybe this is why victoria nuland said the state department was quite concerned that russian forces could gain access to

these biofacilities. or, perhaps, it's not even these facilities that make her so concerned. remember, there are still two biosafety level three labs that we helped fund which are located in some hot zones. the capital of kyiv and odesa. reports indicate they work with some serious airborne pathogens, so, are these labs the ones we are worried about? since nobody will give us the clear answer on which facilities are at risk, the russians and the chinese are filling the void. we need some answers. jamie metzl is described as the original covid whistleblower on the wuhan lab. he's a former w.h.o. adviser and former national security council member. jamie, clear this up, what the hell is going on with these biolabs in ukraine?

>> so, jesse, as you just described, our government did exactly what we would have wanted it to do after the fall of the soviet union. we invested a lot in cleaning up the chemical and biological weapons. we helped convert some of these military facilities in the soviet union to civilian facilities. most of which are doing pretty good things like disease surveillance. like trying to suppress the outbreak of plague as you have just described. and every city, every country has these kinds of biology labs, right now we are in a war and we know that it's extremely likely that russia has the world's largest collection of blige and chemical weapons, and we know that russia and china are engaged in a massive misinformation campaign to raise questions about ukraine, so we just need to be clear, what the united states has been doing, i think is -- has been entirely transparent and above board.

i'm not aware of any suspicious activity that the ukrainians themselves have been engaged in. >> jesse: right. >> there is a lot of residue from the old soviet union. we should be worried about what the russians have and what they may do and is there a possibility that there are some materials being stored in these labs? yes, but there is nothing in ukraine that is not as scary as what they already have in russia. >> jesse: with that said, you say this is good stuff. and i want to believe you. you know they are trying to get ahead of this these viruses. they are trying to do legit experiments so we don't get smacked with some ungodly pathogen. but the same thing was said about wuhan. they were just experiments. they were trying to get ahead of things and research viruses and they were doing gain of function. so we don't trust these labs that the u.s. is funding all over the world after what happened in wuhan. do you think they are doing gain of function in any of these labs in ukraine?

>> i have no reason to believe that they are. i certainly don't know. i mean, there is a broader issue of international regulation of all of these labs and that's maybe for a different day. we should have international regulation because there is all kinds of work going on in all kinds of countries around the world and we don't know what it is and some of it could be scary. but i'm not familiar with any gain of function research being done in ukraine and, again, what i sees a the story here is if the russians and the chinese are engaged in a massive misinformation campaign to sow distrust here. >> jesse: they are. but the united states government has to put out good, solid information fast instead of saying oh there's no biological weapons programs there. why don't they just say what it is? that's why people have questions. and they can't have -- they can't do any more gain of function. and you don't know if they are doing it there and that's scary,

but it is what it is and thank you so much for coming on. >> my pleasure. >> jesse: fox news alert. brand new satellite images showing the 40-mile long russian convoy outside of kyiv is now on the move. the photos taken this morning reveal how putin's forces are being dispersed and redeployed. this suggests they are getting into firing positions in these little tree lines there. in nearby towns. joining me now mike rogers, army veteran and former house intelligence committee chairman. these are scary satellite images. we thought this convoy was wrecked and out of gas. and had blown tires and now it's on the move. and it looks like it's threatening to lay siege on the capital. your reaction? >> yeah. they always say that amateurs talk tactics and professionals talk logistics. and so there was this speculation early on that the

russians would catch up logistically along the way, depending on how much damage the ukrainians can do. some of what you see is going into firing position. some of it is, guess what? these ambushes on this convoy have taken a toll on the russians and so that disbursement is trying to make it harder for those ambushes to have an impact. so i don't see it necessarily as hey they are getting ready to come on in. i think they are scrambling around trying to figure out how not to have the ukrainians engage in these am bushes and take an material effect of the effectiveness of these units. >> jesse: it's a tactical retreat because they are getting roasted by these javelins it looks like and we have shown footage all throughout the day. does that make this encirclement less imminent? this redeployment? >> no. i think, listen, if you are the commander of the russians, you are saying i have got to go. i cannot sit here very long or i

won't be here because they are having such an impact on these ambushes. and so i think they really are trying to figure out how thessalonians they get this thing moving and get it in place this initial movement looks to me they are trying not to get swakd. they are dispersing their forces but, listen, putin is going to inflict pain. i don't care how successful the ukrainians are, we should understand putin will inflict a lot of pain to get what he wants. this is the beginning stages of that. >> jesse: all right. it sure looks like it. thank you so much mike rogers as always. >> jesse: time for some of your texts allen from virginia. did putin cure dismofd haven't heard a word about it since he invaded ukraine. [laughter] i think he did. where is -- where is our russian senator from vermont? in a cave somewhere? come out, come out wherever you are, bernie. yeah, where has bernie been? unbelievable. julie fort wayne, indiana, what

do we do with electric cars if there is a power outage? i have no idea. we have any more? no more. all right. again, smollett going to jail for about five months. that's all for us tonight. tucker carlson is up next. always remember, i'm watters and this is my world. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening, and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." last night, we told you the biden administration is funding a number of secret bio labs in ukraine, labs that are conducting experiments on highly dangerous pathogens. that is not a story that has we wanted to do. went back, we did not think it could be true. it's so over-the-top and bizarre. the administration repeatedly and very aggressively denied if they were doing anything like