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♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ get your tv together with the best of live and on demand. directv stream. [background noises] [background noises] twenty-seven russian intents find their soul but innocent siblings is a close in on the capitol of kyiv. vladimir putin's army advancing on mariupol and the south. this strategic port city coming under heavy assault with hundreds of thousands of people trapped in the crossfire. hello everyone and welcome to fox news live i am mike
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emmanuel. state and i am alicia acuna, eric and arthel are off today. the russian army advancing slowly but steadily despite fierce ukrainian resistance. reports indicate putin's forces outside of kyiv are fanning out into new but for us and towns. assigned they could be preparing to surround the capitol city. this comes as russia is inflicting pain on even more ukrainian's, bombing sittings and towns far from the front lines. analyst say putin is trying to break the will of the ukrainian people. but ukrainian president zelenskyy says their resolve is only growing stronger. mike: ukraine the apogee center since world war ii bread by first two trey yingst live in kyiv as russian forces inched closer. trey, how significant is the shelling right now? >> and michael, good afternoon
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but as we speak russian forces are shelling ukrainian positions and neighborhoods on the outskirts of this city but we have heard the loud explosions over the past 24 hours and often those air r sirens are going off telling people to get underground immediately. the civilian population here is bracing for very blood he days ahead with those eve who can evacuate our doing so at this hour even. we spoke this weekend with one american citizen, his name is dwight coro pretty came here to ukraine to help with the evacuation. his words here give you a sense of what people are willing to do to help those most vulnerable ukrainians get out of the way take a listen for. >> doing that i'm carrying structures helping evacuation there is a lot of ukrainian volunteers who are leading the charge and putting themselves in harm's way for their countrymen i am just trying to help out. >> evacuation from kyiv come as other cities are under attack at this hour.
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you mentioned mariupol in the south is a city of 400,000 people. it's currently surrounded by russian forces. you can see in this video tanks in the streets firing on apartment buildings. it really just shows the level of destruction and disregard for human life these russian forces have. something ukrainian president zelenskyy spoke about earlier today. >> if they kill all of us, then they will enter kyiv. if this is the goal then let them enter but they will end up leaving out alone in this land certainly without us. they will not find friends among us. >> it might, throughout the capitol city there are checkpoints set up ukrainian forces are worried about russian saboteurs making their way deeper into the capitol to try to gather information and ultimately help those forces on the outskirts before the assault the city, mike. mike: trave heard the horror stories of them turning off the water in the south and also
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heats. i was the silly cold climate there in ukraine. what is the status they are in kyiv question worker people able to get water, able to get food and so forth? >> yes that is a great question break right up people can still get food and water in the ukrainian capitol. but there is a real sense this is only for a period of time before the city is at least partially surrounded by they have seen and heard about what is happening in the southern part of this country. until you go out you see people in lines at pharmacies and grocery stores that are still open for the gathering as many supplies as they can. many of them storing those supplies the bomb shelters or basements and really bracing for the days ahead. paul: trey yingst doing a phenomenal job in the ukrainian capitol. many thanks. alicia: meanwhile refugees are flooding western ukraine to seek shelter from the russian onslaught. putin's forces have reportedly attacked targets there for the first time since the start of the war. mike tobin is alive and lviv it
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not far from the polish border. >> actually the second time the airstrikes have come this far west. as a couple of airstrips one in lutsk it is to the north of levy and another one in, both airstrips their hit analyst believes they were hit to send a message to nato not to contribute any fighter jets to the ukrainian that it would be futile. but the west here has been largely peaceful compared to the combat you see out into the east the besieged town to the east of ukraine. therefore you have the flow of refugees they come here to the lviv central train station they got the western borders they largely boarded buses in the parking lot and complete the journey but most of the buses take them into poland but others are taking them into moldova, things of that nature.
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but as the trains come in caring refugees they go back to curing aid we watch as they people formed up a human chain bringing vans filled with eight up from the parking lot, hand over hand people handed up boxes of diapers, water, food that's all going back into severe combat areas. also in the town filled with aid left from there to go to mariupol you mention it circled by russian forces is battle by rockets and artillery pit so severe is the fighting in mariupol they've resorted to mass graves for the flow of refugees has slowed in recent days. it is not stopped entirely. but hey mike you've been there pretty much since the beginning and lviv producing the way the people who live in the city have reacted so far. now the is expanding how is the day-to-day operations change for folks there what is there posturing now?
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>> the posturing they definitely are on a war footing. you can see that with things like the historic churches artistic statues in the center of town that stuff has all been sandbagged. there are roadblocks the hedgehog barriers as they call them at different locations around the city. you see police and soldiers with their magazines and their guns. and that is essentially what you're getting from people here. they're going about their tasks but they definitely are on a war footing for there is no alcohol sales allowed in the town. the restaurants are open during the day. there's a curfew at night so the town largely shuts down. spit mike tobin life for us and lviv, thanks mike. >> is vladimir putin expanded by an administration says it's not working to send more military aid to ukraine for this after the united states rejected deal with poland to send fighter jets
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to ukraine. mark merritt of that is live at the pentagon with the very latest. hate market. >> mike afternoon to you. russian officials are threatening to attack weapons convoys are heading into ukraine. russian deputy foreign minister said the convoys or quote legitimate targets for the u.s. is showing no signs of letting up and offering military assistance into ukraine. we've seen this happen nevertheless on what to include the white house approving other $200 million and assistance just today. ukraine's government though is asking for more supports. they want the no-fly zone that the u.s. has rejected over fears that u.s. and nato pilots basically pitted against russian forces directly. this week their ministration also rejected an offer from poland to send its own soviet air bags to a base in germany so they could fly those jets into ukraine. they suggest you do very little to aid in ukraine's response. >> they're fighting hard for the airspace but we believe we are focused on making sure that
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capabilities and weapons they need most use very effectively. the speak at u.s. and nato heading to brussels will also be making a stop in slovakia. will do a lot to praise the efforts happening there also warning americans about what could happen if they were to go physically join the fight on the ground in ukraine. rex russia has stated that it intends to treat foreign fighters in ukraine as quote unquote mercenaries. rather than as lawful combatants it's retained they may be subject to potential attempts at criminal prosecution and may be at heightened risk or mistreatment. >> the administration certainly praised americans have been trying to offer help to those nonprofits, humanitarian aid because of course talking about there so much need on the ground
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there, michael. >> mark meredith live at the pentagon thanks very much. alicia: thanks mike. we're going to bring it retired u.s. army general anthony. general thank you so much for being here today but i'm assuming you have been listening to some of this. these western expansion and the surrounding of kyiv getting even tighter. what you perceive the next couple of days? x thanks alicia, great to be with you. but i see is more a set armor and mechanized infantry movement with air cover the russians are being very deliberate about what they are doing. the ukrainians are putting up a stiff fight. i would not miss read the slowness of the advance appeared both got is the river right in that middle it's the fourth largest river in ukraine. when you look at the map, most of the fighting is east of the dnieper river. you've got west of the dnieper
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river. they are pressuring from command and control seizure standpoint and kyiv the russians are. meanwhile they are taking their time to attack and seize the cities in the east of ukraine to consolidate that. then tighten up their logistics and continue to move. it's clear to me he is on a scorcher policies got information or keeping nato on its heels. and what he is saying about the mercenaries treating foreign fighters as mercenaries. somewhat unified here then get more unified on the economic sanctions piece. and i think sending u.s. troops is the right move. this is a tinderbox right now and is deliberately putting it on the eye of nato and united
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states because of perceived weakness coming out of afghanistan. >> in general, on that point is you know the german chancellor and the french president both had conversations with president putin they're basically chasing their tails. is it a mistake to apply western sensibilities to diplomacy here? to someone who actually laughs in the face and it doesn't follow the rules and interprets our attempt at negotiation as weakness? >> the norm of the format that worked in 2014 after putin took crimea and parts of southeastern ukraine including germany, france, ukraine and russia. so that conversation was attempted very briefly a few months ago. what's surprising to me or may be unsurprising is the united states is really not a factor here in any of the diplomatic
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efforts. what i would have expected to see is something akin to what president clinton did with general west clark back when they conducted a veryimilar type attack and slaughtered a bosnia and the croatians and into kos of o. a major land warfare. it is very similar to what is happening now in ukraine. there is been no peace accord like it that i can see. perhaps in the back channel has just tried that and it fizzled out or putin is not going to negotiate. he once ukraine is going to consolidate their. i will tell you it is concerning he is beefing up the belarus military because that tells me he is looking at the baltics as well. and so this is very concerning. all of our efforts going into nato or well spent right now.
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>> back to your comment on the date in peace accord that came at the end of the bosnia war, what is it that you believe the clinton administration was able to do effectively that this administration right now you feel is failing? >> that is a really good question. the leadership from the three warring factions in bosnia, croatia were able to come together and frankly a lot of it was general wes clark and president clinton working hard 24/7 to convince people, but in the middle of europe is not in their interest. so they negotiate a peace element i was involved in the very early parts of 1995 and 96 in bosnia this peace agreement in the zone of separation as it was called. there's been no effort like
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that. certainly seems the diplomatic effort has been anemic here and when you look at it through diplomacy information and the economy the economic efforts have been a well focused united states perspective diplomatic information levels of national power are not being well spent right now. >> retired u.s. army general anthony tate. weeks appreciate your expertise today. >> michael. >> alicia the refugee crisis the worst since world war ii. i have the two largest cities so they cannot handle anymore ukrainians trying to escape russia's attacks we are live in poland, next. so, we're taking this to italy. refresh. because subway now has italian-style capicola on the new mozza meat and supreme meats. love the smell of italian food. subway keeps refreshing and refres-
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alicia: theo announces 2.8 million ukrainians have fled the country as the humanitarian crisis grows worse by the day. some 1.5 million refugees have escaped to neighboring poland and now the mayors of poland's two largest cities were soft, say they can no longer handle the influx. they are now asking for help from other urine the pn nation.
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as a live in poland with the details. >> hi alicia, 60% of refugees fleeing ukraine or fleeing ukraine are now arriving in poland for this is the train station seeing people, families huddled at train stations across the country who have fled, who are war refugees is now normal something a couple weeks ago would have been unimaginable. the have welcome centers with toys for kids, supplies, medical supplies they might need a longer journey but a woman talked with a 29-year-old named helena brought her two kids on this journey. she was devastated over having to leave her family and everything behind she said for her kids who cannot quite understand what was happening for them it was more of a game.
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[inaudible] we visited the refugee center earlier today it was clean and it was warm. quite a contrast compared to the bustling refugee centers we have seen in other parts of the country here. now that's also what we are seeing is the increasing numbers of people at this center the volunteers knew the people, need these beds and are keeping them ready with clean sheets laid out, donated close and organize toiletries. all that is prepared. the mayor of several cities in poland and even smaller towns are calling for help for the more than 1.6 million refugees we are seeing enter poland alone. the countries asking for partnership of its neighbors and handling this growing humanitarian crisis. as for those receiving help they say it has been overwhelming is such a dark time of need.
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>> at one point we thought russians were our brothers. but now we see that our real brothers are the polish and the germans. >> this train station made accommodations by opening clinics, not only a one center medical care there is also this little station you see in here were people can walk in, they can grab food if they need. even carriers for pets that people have got along the way by so one woman the other day she brought her cat with her. she did not have anything to carry her cat so she was holding that animal and a wicker basket. these are things so easily taken for granted. but moments in that panic of grabbing whatever you can see. these are some of the ways people in the other cities help some of the war refugees providing them with things that maybe they kept in their garage or in their attic knowing their counterparts from ukraine likely could need them.
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>> and alex i will tell you,. >> that also it gives a lot of hope it. >> that part is really nice it was really nice to see that little girl and her mother's arms with a smile on her face but i think that something we all needed it was beautiful. but back to the generosity of the people of poland. as you indicated the mayors there in kraków and warsaw say the getting to a breaking point. do you get to the field is going to be a saturation point there's going to be more pushback from these mayors? >> i think there could be pushback as well as support to pretty think we need to remember those two pieces that can come into play. they are not mutually exclusive. while the mayors say they are overwhelmed they do not have the support they need and they are asking from the countries and the country itself is asking the eu for more help at the same time they do still want to help all these people. they are seeing volunteers here
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helping these people this is a great example of a mother and child just arrived here and a volunteers helping carry their luggage. we have seen that time and time again for people who arrive here. they have little belongings. but the volunteers help carry whatever they have. so of course it mayors are overwhelmed in these largest cities we've also talked heard from mayors of smaller cities which is the main train station that most of the refugees are coming into from lviv and the mayor and they are in that small town says it is impossible to keep up with the number of people that are crossing. we hear every story and we know it resignations with people all across the world. so poland will keep a welcoming these people but frankly they do not know how they're going to do that. >> alex hogan and poland, thank you. meanwhile, volunteers are working around the clock to provide critical medical and mental health support to those
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of fleeing ukraine and seeking safety and neighboring countries. you can join fox and supporting a red cross relief efforts, donate now by going to redcross.org/fox. so far you have raised more than $5 million to assist the red cross in ukraine, keep it up, mike. mike: with vladimir putin's war in the third week diplomatic solution looks more remote by the day as the russian army continues its relentless assault negotiations to end the bloodshed basically going nowhere but joining is now a former under secretary of state for global affairs, ambassador welcome. >> thank you so much mike i am delighted to be here. >> i want to pay a clip free from vice president harris in romania yesterday. >> in terms of your question about offramp, from the beginning the united states has been attempting sincerely to
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engage in diplomacy. actively. and from everything that we know and have witnessed, putin shows no sign of engaging in serious diplomacy. >> oh ambassador, what can the united states and international community do to get vladimir putin serious about cease-fire and or peace talks? >> well mike, i think that's going to be difficult. the fact of the matter is that the russians and pollution are not interested in diplomacy at this time. we have seen it play out in terms of the humanitarian crisis. the fact there been these three meetings at a call for a cease-fire and humana torque core door. as we have seen innocent civilians, young children, women have been massacred. this was an outcome of one of the talks.
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even that has not been held. they have not been concrete results. there is the second point here i think is significant. that does that affect the terms the russians have put forward are really unacceptable. first they call for the entire demilitarization of ukraine, ukraine is a sovereign country and russia is calling for its deep militarization. secondly it calls for the recognition of the independent states. then also to codify nato -- non- nato membership in its constitution and then also crimea. crimea will be part of russia. the fact is these terms are ones the russians are holding to and meanwhile they are going forward and massacring innocent citizens and civilians throughout ukraine. and i will also just add that here it is noteworthy that
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during these talks the ukrainians have put forward not just only the idea of a cease-fire in humanitarian corridors, also president zelenskyy himself is even indicated that ukraine would consider taking a pass of neutrality. he has even indicated that nato can be put aside for the time. but again they terms the russian have are rather unacceptable, michael. his habit a lot of folks mention how this all and she mentioned vladimir putin's so far are unacceptable to and rode the international community. so, does he break ukraine basically how does this all end? with the urging and requirement of demilitarization. if a country's demilitarized it's going to be neutral and subservient to russia rate that
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is what he seeks pretty think he also seeks and we know this matters what happens there to also others. we have been concerned about his expansionist desires and what he has stated bradys targeting kyiv he is targeting odesa. he'd like to have the port of odesa. i would say as long as their military operation is sustained, which by the way has not been doing well, there is no incentive for any kind of diplomatic kind of result here. i do not see it. mike: ambassador paula dobriansky. thank you for your analysis and your time today. >> thank you mike. alicia: they say a picture is worth 1000 words. we have some incredible new images to show you from the war in ukraine. including an elderly couple who held their ground. that is next.
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alicia: the biden administration announced more economic penalties on russia for the new sanctions, as president biden again blames vladimir putin and russia for america skyrocketing gas prices. the president friday syngas prices went up 75 cents, the moment vladimir putin put troops on the ukrainian border in january. peter doocy is a life at the white house with the latest. >> inflation has been around for several months. but president biden not want his name anywhere near the term inflation. some are one issue voters are most concerned about. i am sick of this stuff. with a talk about the american people think the reason inflation is because government is spending more money.
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he simply not true. >> and that is curious because the president admitted his policies did contribute to inflation, specifically the stimulus checks attached to the american rescue plan. he explained how in november. >> it will change people's lives. but what happens if there's nothing to buy any of got more money you compete it creates a real problem. >> and a real problem for lawmakers from energy producing states, red tape. the president is claiming oil and gas companies can drill here if they want too. but producers are saying climate minded executive orders are making that impossible. >> i say give me a break mr. president. this administration from day one comment date one have seen in alaska, has come into office and has been focused on shutting down the production of american energy. they do it all the time in my state i see it all the time. >> president biden is at camp
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david the vice president is back from poland and romania. she is explaining how she tried to get the west to gang up on putin. >> when i was meeting with our allies i emphasized that the greatest strength that we share is unity. especially at this moment as we stand together in defense of democracy. and stand together in defense of each other. >> president biden is saying if russia uses chemical weapons there will be a severe price to pay. but he is not yet saying what that severe price is. alicia: peter doocy at the white house thanks peter, mike. >> we are getting new images showing the widespread destruction across the country including mute sunlight pictures of the devastation and it mariupol for this also incredible scenes of unarmed civilians were risking their lives to face the russian army. alexis mcadams is live in the new york newsroom with more.
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>> the damage and death toll just keeps growing in ukraine paid innocent people caught in the crossfire. one of those was badly injured by russian troops is speaking from her hospital bed, listen to this. >> i don't understand, leave us alone. and get out. >> that poor woman was actually in a car with her child when she was shelled by russian troops for these are satellite images on your screen right now should the extensive damage to infrastructure and buildings near ukraine's p-uppercase-letter a cranial authority say they're been at least $100 billion worth of damage to the roads, bridges, hospitals and other critical infrastructure. those attacks have not stopped, listen. [background noises] alicia: you can hear the explosions there. one of the areas hardest hit is mariupol for that's area you're sitting on your screen the port city under fire, many have no food, no water and no supplies
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there. today was a shelled sources are joined fox news at least 80 people including small children were hiding out insight at that moscow today when it was shelled. working to find out if there any casualties from that attack. now another russian troops have also been trying to take over is odesa the largest port city which is very strategic and important to russian president vladimir putin but take a look this is the damage that this is new video just got in a short time ago pretty see the burned-out cars there, riddled with bullets. people had to leave their animals and cars there is a tried to flee abandoning their vehicles behind heading out on foot and the heavy russian shelling purnell ukrainian president vladimir zelenskyy said his loss 1300 troops and since invasion started. this comes as russian forces are getting much closer to the ukrainian capitol tonight, michael. mike: alexis mcadams live in york city thank you very much. alicia: and mike, as europe faces its worst humanitarian
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warehouses and forte distribution sites we have two warehouses in romania one in ukraine and a distribution hub deep into ukraine. we have been working diligently to purchase everything we can in country. so we have bought out most of the suppliers. we have already moved 200,000 pounds of food to the border and into ukraine. and then just today, on that way we have 15 pallets of a baby formula that will be arriving that is almost spoken for now. these products are coming in from the netherlands, romania, bulgaria, places all over europe. >> there such an incredible amount of need. the fact that you have a warehouse and you people inside ukraine getting food and supplies to people who are trapped, they are in such a dangerous situations already. how is it your team is able to do this it sounds incredibly dangerous. >> oh well, mercy chefs are
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hallmark is hotmail's we do that all of the country and world. as we arrived there we realized the need was for supplies and for food. and so we determined we would do whatever it took to meet the need. now we will certainly get our kitchens open and do hot meals. but right now the need is to remove as much food and supplies into ukraine as possible before we lose that opportunity. >> argue working with ukrainian officials on the ground? with the military? what happens when someone from your team comes across russian military members? >> we've not seen any russian military members we have seen a lot of ukrainians and ukrainian soldiers. but they have been very cooperative. we have passes that get us all around the country. we are working with romanians right there on the border. the local volunteers have been incredible. i have to say i've never seen
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anything quite like the romanians on how they have open their homes and businesses and their hearts to the ukrainians. it's got to be hard for job folks in ukraine who are staying there and working? are they traveling across the border back and forth? how does that work logistically? >> we have a little bit of both we have a warehouseman there who were there we have a warehouse manager we have a special spear working with local transportation assets to coordinate all of the deliveries. in the romanian people we have several romanians working very closely with us. alicia: there so many people have been watching everything unfold over the past couple of weeks wondering what they can do to help in any way possible. what is it that you need and how can folks help? >> it is the resources for us to be able to continue to purchase everything that we can find. the shipments and the containers are going to arrive from the
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u.s. that is going to take months. we need to be able to buy what we can find it locally and move it into the country as fast as possible. so for us is just the resources to be able to get the job done and do all we can in the moment. alicia: we have seen americans getting on planes try to in any way they can as well, going to border areas and such. do you need more people? >> so many romanians of volunteering we have our core group that's taking care of the necessary things. i think too many people can be more of a problem. it takes housing and resources the refugees need. certainly the hearts of america turns toward this crisis. this is a humanitarian catastrophe. a humanitarian disaster like no one has seen in their lifetime. alicia: yes and mercy chefs you really are a bunch of angels helping out people in desperate, desperate need. we thank you for that.
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gary leblanc founder and ceo of mercy chefs, thank you so much for joining us. >> no, thank you, you are welcome. 37 this growing anxiety about safety of basketball star brittney griner. the growing concerns vladimir putin is using her and other detained americans as political pawns in his war against ukraine. ♪ avoiding triggers, but can't keep migraine attacks away? qulipta™ can help prevent migraine attacks... it can't prevent stress. qulipta™ can help prevent migraine attacks... it can't prevent changes in weather. you can't prevent what's going on outside, that's why qulipta™ helps what's going on inside. qulipta™ is a pill. gets right to work to prevent migraine attacks
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mike: republican lawmakers are colored by the ministration take stronger action to help american stuck in rush including a basketball star and marie court veteran fred christina coleman is filing this part of the story live in los angeles, hello christina. >> hi mike, this week republican congressman burgess bowen and sent biden a letter expressing grave concern that the russians could use a wnba star brittney griner and other americans detained in their country as leverage. >> i have not been the biggest fan of this version of the state department. we can look back and see the thousands of americans who were left in afghanistan to see that in my view i don't think they pull every lever that needs to be polled. this is also a very different environment. >> the biden ministration needs
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to do more to try to raise this issue. what putin and the russian government and get them released. >> former u.s. marines have been jailed in russia for what their families and u.s. lawmakers call politically motivated trumped up charges. wnba star brittney griner was detained last month over allegation ship cannabis oil at her luggage at a russian airport. >> biggest concern is with everything going on that they are going to be another casualty of this process. just think about this it was tom brady, russell wilson it would be headlines people think about how do we get her back? >> have gotten a taste of what vladimir putin is like with his cruel and unprovoked invasion of ukraine. and targeting innocent civilians pre-doesn't really care anything about the people involved or their families.
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>> democratic congressman says he is working with the state department to try and get brittney griner back home. >> she was detained on the 17th at the moscow embassy has requested counsel are accessed are the same they would for any american that has been detained or incarcerated abroad. that is not been granted now for over three weeks. that is extremely unusual and extremely concerning. >> very concerning to her family and friends due to privacy considerations the state department is not giving specifics on griner's situation. they said they do provide every possible assistance to americans detained on foreign soil including in russia, mike. twenty-seven christina coleman thank you very much. alicia: russian showing reported just outside of kyiv today as potent forces advanced for the capitol city. stay with the fox news for complete coverage on the war on ukraine. serena... matrix.
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alicia: amid the horror in ukraine, there are signs of hope emerging. marianna was one of several pregnant women who escaped russia's attack on a maternity hospital in mariupol. the associated press reports she and her husband fled to another hospital on the outskirts of town where yesterday she gave birth to her daughter veronica. both mother and baby are doing well despite sheltering a city that has been cut off from field, water and electricity. mike mike beautiful. tomorrow new reaction from the biden administration and congress says forces advance further into ukraine. bret baier will speak with deputy secretary wendy sherman, ranking member of the foreign
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relations committee, catch "fox news sunday" right here at 2 p.m. eastern on the fox news channel. will. alicia: our coverage of the war on i crane -- ukraine continues throughout the evening. stay with fox news for the latest developments. "the big saturday show" is next. ♪ ♪ [background sounds] [gunfire] [inaudible conversations] >> a mosque where 80 ukrainians were hiding has closed in on kyiv, i'm griff general since along with rachel

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