instead of a war zone. and i think everybody agrees with that. that is all for tonight. you wanted it, you're getting it. "tucker carlson tonight" is up next, and remember, i'm waters, and this is my world. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." houston, texas, is one of the rare nice big cities left in his country. a little hot in the summer, but great people, very pretty neighborhoods and a lot going on. thanks to the energy sector, biotech and aerospace, houston has an enormous and still robust economy. it is hardly some dying milltown in the northeast or the upper midwest. your kids might want to move to houston someday, maybe after

college. it's not baltimore. but all of a sudden houston, texas, is starting to look a little bit more like baltimore. crime in houston has gotten scary. the murder rate there has risen by more than 50% in just the last year. it's bad. here's a local news report. >> a deadly start to the year across houston. police investigating at least 41 homicides through 24 days. so far this year, houston has more murders than new york city, los angeles, even chicago. >> it's one of those things where i'm fearful for my family just to go out of the house. >> the president of the houston police officers union frustrated. >> if it keeps up the space we will be well over 500 murders this year. >> tucker: i'm fearful just for my family to go outside of the house. as you heard, that was the president of the police union in houston, so he would know. it's amazing this is happening in all places in houston and what's so telling about this crime wave is how recently it began. murders in houston start to spike in a big way after

joe biden became president. why is that exactly? very simple answer. joe biden opened the southern border. texas shares more than 1200 miles of border with mexico. there's a brutal cartel war underway in mexico right now. it's been going on for a long time. many of the combatants in that war have now moved north into texas. they brought drugs with them. they've also brought machine guns. this fall, fell in open fire on houston police officers with a fully automatic rifle. you hear a lot about assault weapons, but the truth is authorities don't see fully automatic weapons area often. they are heavily regulated and typically they are owned by collectors. but automatic weapons are very common in war zones, and there is a war in mexico. so with no border in place, the cartels are bringing their armaments here. watch this firefight in houston. >> it's houston police. [bleep]. [gunfire]

>> it's the police. >> tucker: that's automatic weapons fire. it sounds like syria or mexico. but it's an apartment complex in houston, texas. we can go on. if you know any buddy who lives in houston, call and ask how is your city changed recently, and they will tell you. open borders did this. houston didn't do it to itself. this was done to houston. i'm not just to houston, to so many places across this country were millions of illegal aliens have flooded in during joe biden's presidency. on monday, for example, more than 100 illegal haitian migrants landed in the florida keys in a single boat. you're watching aerial footage summerlin key florida. pictures like this are no longer uncommon in the state of florida. the world is coming to america's shores. why? because they are fully aware that the biden administration is rewarding for nationals for violating our federal immigration law. it is an invasion.

huge number's of americans are dying as a result of that invasion. 100,000 dead last year of drug ods, most were killed by fentanyl. that is trucked in from mexico across open borders. long-term, there are massive labor market destructions. there is evaporating social cohesion and so on. the costs of this have been beyond calculating. and this is exactly why no sane country opens its borders ever. ever. anywhere. what joe biden is doing right now has never been done. and it's about to get much worse. we are not guessing. currently a trump era regulation called title 42 allows the border patrol to turn illegal migrants back to mexico on the grounds that there's a pandemic in progress so we probably shouldn't let millions of people infected with covid move here without permission. seems sensible. but according to democrats, this rule is racist because it might slow the human wave of migration, so for months they've been demanding that the biden administration suspend this world. watch them.

>> i urge president biden and secretary mayorkas to immediately put a stop to these expulsions and to end this title 42 policy at our southern border. we cannot continue these hateful and xenophobic trump policies. >> in addition, a relic title 42, exists. it is a relic of the trump administration. it was created to be mean-spirited. title 42, i ask for a suspension of it. >> i urge the biden administration and my colleagues to remember the refugees who are waiting at our border kept up by the cruel and unnecessary title 42 policy. >> title 42 is being used in a way that i think is indiscriminate and that violates the basic essence of our law. but this process that the biden administration has continued from the trump administration in my mind is inexcusable. >> tucker: so your kid has to

wear a mask in school, but illegal aliens get to come here with no restrictions at all despite the fact they may be infected with covid, because otherwise you're a racist. that's the case they were making and so finally, inevitably, the biden administration has caved. it turns out even trying to maintain basic public health standards is on acceptable if it gets in the way of increasing mass immigration. title 42 has been nullified. a similar rule that you know should still apply to you, american citizens, not exempt. to this day, u.s. a u.s. citizen are not allowed to return to the unit states without permission from the cdc. rochelle walensky will sign off on that. coming back to the country you were born and is no longer your birthright but illegal aliens now face no legal barriers at all. and of course they know it. everyone knows it. it's not their fault, it's our president's fault. according to axios, "u.s. intelligence officials are quietly bracing for a massive influx of more than 170,000 migrants at the mexico border

now that title 42 is ending." so the way it grows, the total transformation of this country accelerates. we've been very passive in the face of this, people make grumpy noises about it. nobody has done anything. how should we respond? the same way we respond to any other invasion, with the u.s. military. that's why countries have militaries, to stop invasions, and this would not be a hard invasion to stop. our military could seal the border with mexico in days. that would save american lives, it would restore order and it would end the invasion. does that sound crazy? like a misuse of the u.s. military? keep in mind that nancy pelosi called in the u.s. military to protect her from trump voters at the u.s. capitol. she treated our soldiers like her personal security detail. and then of course at this very moment we are sending thousands of american troops and billions in american military hardware to eastern europe to help the ukrainians restore their

borders. so the obvious question is, why not here? why not take america's safety, your family's safety, as serious as nancy pelosi takes her own safety? that seems like a fair question. probably not russian information, probably an honest question. we spoke to congressman maria salazar yesterday and we ask that question of her, she refused to answer. watch how she refused. >> i just can't help notice the contrast between your desire to send migs to ukraine to preserve its borders but not here. should we send the u.s. military to the mexican border since you have admitted that tens of millions of people have come here illegally? that our borders are porous, they are not defended, they are open. should we send the u.s. military to the mexican border? >> that is what i have created a whole plan so we can really seal the border, because you know what? might -- let me finish. >> tucker: you represent america. i'm asking a question about borders. all of us are appalled for the violation ukraine's borders.

you don't seem as appalled by a violation of our borders, by tens of millions of people, so let me ask you for the third time. >> sure i do. that's a miss our present tatian. >> tucker: okay then would you support the u.s. military securing the united states border tonight or on the same timetable as sending migs to ukraine? how about that? >> that's hypothetical again. >> tucker: oh, it's hypothetical. i've got a plan! right. how many plans if you heard about from republicans for say the past 25 years? many, many, many. to restate, this is a highly dangerous situation that the biden administration has placed our country in. mexico, whatever its merits, is in the middle of a war. not a new war, a war that has raged on for more than a decade out, aware that has likely killed more than 100,000 people so far. missing footage on your screen right now of trucks burning. that's just feed from the u.s.

border -- feet from the u.s. border in the state of texas. what you're looking at is an aftermath of a three hour gun battle between cartels government forces. you'll notice the situation there is so chaotic that the trucks just burn in the middle of the road. no one comes to put up the fires to put up orders to arrest anyone. that's not a law enforcement action, that's a war. that's what wars are like. a few years ago they used heavy machine guns and armored vehicles to win the pitched battle against the mexican military. that's a war, civil war feet from our border. that's the country joe biden opened our border too. it's insanity. and yet somehow our congress cannot be bothered to notice this, any of it. even as millions stream across. murder victims in houston a parent i don't have influential social media accounts so kevin mccarthy doesn't know that they exist and that's a shame because when he sees it on tiktok, he acts.

here's mccarthy demanding we send military equipment across the world to stop the invasion of another country. watch. >> when you think about what president biden should do, i think there's a bipartisan movement right here, provide them the migs. provide them the planes where they can create a no-fly zone. provide them the armament that they need to continue to fight a war that they did not create. >> tucker: so mccarthy says the ukrainians, it's a war they didn't create and that is certainly true. but ukrainians did not create that war, they did not invade their own country. but we didn't either. we didn't invade our own country. very few americans wanted to open our border to a narco state in the middle of a drug war. joe biden did that to us. and no one cares. so maybe we need our own zelenskyy to get the world's attention and stop the invasion of america. who will that be?

j.d. vance is running in the state of ohio for senate. thanks so much for coming on. without even weighing on the question to the degree we should be supporting the crane and the effort to get the russians out of the country, why is no one trying to get the invasion of the united states to stop, and why it is the u.s. military, in which you serve, a crazy idea? >> well, because our politicians don't care about their citizens. i mean, every time the joe biden bundle is one of trump's immigration policies, it leads to a massive spike in fentanyl coming across our country. that kills our citizens. but there also cascading effects. think about the grandparents who are living on a fixed income, who are raising a generation of children who are orphaned by the fentanyl problem and on top of that, joe biden inflation policies have meant that those grandparents have struggled to even put food on the table of the children they are now taking care of. now, joe biden, instead of

providing relief for this problem, has basically decided to shutdown america's pipelines, dried our energy costs through the roof, and this guy has the audacity to lecture us about sacrificing for the ukrainians. listen, joe biden, we don't need a lecture about sacrifice. americans have sacrificed plenty in the last couple of years. what we need you to do is stop being a terrible president and take care of your own country. >> tucker: well, that's exactly it. i do have any problem showing concern for other people, other nations, but if you treated your kids this way, if you were deeply concerned about the fate of your neighbors kids but ignored her own, your kids will wind up in rehab during pointing fingers at joe biden here but maybe we should -- they don't care. because if they cared they would be doing something, correct? >> that's exactly right. one of the takeaways of this, and for so long i thought this was just bad policy that these people were idiots or just didn't know what they were doing, you look at the glee, you look at the excitement, the fact that chuck schumer is actually

inviting joe biden to undo a trump era policy that he knows will cause this border crisis to get even worse, you realize this is not that policy, these people are doing it by design. it's good policy from their very warped perspective because there accomplishing the invasion of the country that they should love but that of course don't. and you have to ask yourself who is benefiting from and who's getting rich from it and there's two big answers. first of all, chamber of commerce style republicans and democrats who love the cheap labor, who love the fact that these immigrants are displacing america's workers, but also democrat politicians who have decided that they can't win reelection in 2022 unless they bring in a large number of new voters to replace the voters that are already here. that's what this is about. we have an invasion in this country because very powerful people get richer and more powerful because of it. it's not bad policy, it's evil, and we need to call it that. >> tucker: i couldn't agree with you more. j.d. vance, running for senate and the state of ohio.

thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: so you probably thought corona was over. two long years, still trying to figure out what that meant. what happened there? tony fauci left, he's not here to tell us, but he's back, like that groundhog with a brand-new but strangely familiar warning and then russia has issued threat to the united states as the war in ukraine continues. we will have a live report from ukraine next. ♪ ♪

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>> tucker: a fox news alert for you, the ukrainians city of mariupol is apparently decimated after days of heavy bombing in the capital of kyiv also faced a day of intense showing. peace talks are underway, so far yielding no fruit. in the meantime, greg palkot is in ukraine for us tonight with the very latest. hey, greg. >> hey, tucker. yeah, it's a bit quiet here in lviv but we are getting reports in the last couple of hours of new artillery clashes in the south in the eastern part of this country. the main russian forces remain sitting outside of the capital kyiv, but indiscriminate artillery fire is hitting residential buildings, suburbs are being pounded, there's death and destruction all around. there's a possible small miracle in the city of mariupol. some survivors said to of been

pulled out of the theater that was turned into a shelter that was destroyed by russian air strikes but the horrible seizure of that city goes on, it's expected russia will try to take it over in the next couple of days. in kharkiv, widespread damage, just one of many other hot spots. the ukrainian military is actually doing quite a brave job against that bigger russian foe. the pentagon today said ukraine forces have killed 7,000 russian troops. finally, it was warning from the former president of russia, now a security official, dmitry medvedev. he basically said that russia has the right to put the u.s. in its place for, get this, stirring up "disgusting russo phobia. "interesting take. back to you. >> tucker: greg palkot for us, thank you. you may notice that tony fauci disappeared for a while, no idea where he went. we guessed vegas, we weren't sure. get today, like a groundhog, he reemerged.

he missed his power, he wants it back. he declared that covid isn't over until he says it's over. watch. >> do you think it was too soon to move to the new metrics that allow so many americans to not have to wear masks? >> jake, it's not too soon if you observe the caveat that's associated with that. and the caveat is we need to be flexible, and if, in fact, we do see a turnaround and a resurgence, we have to be able to pivot and go back to any degree of mitigation that is commensurate with what the situation is, so we can't just say we are done, now we're going to move on. we got to be able to be flexible. >> tucker: oh, with got to be flexible in dealing with covid, says tony fauci. what does that mean exactly? we got some hint in today's white house briefing. reporter tried to get an answer to the question. wanted to know if the elderly -- as a rhetorical question for

you -- if the elderly are greater risk from covid then young people are? what you think the answer is? [laughs] you know the answer of course, everyone does. here's how joe biden's publicist answered the question. >> the president, 79 years old, president of the united states might be more serious than someone in their 20s? >> we don't know that, but we also know that covid impacts people of all ages but we take what we do here, not exactly as he said, so i wouldn't agree with your description there. >> tucker: so she wouldn't agree with the assertion that the 79-year-old is at greater risk from being hurt by covid then, say, 22-year-old. everyone's got the same risk. that's what she said. dr. scott atlas is, as you may know, a doctor. he is the author of "a plague upon our house," a fight sadly he watched dominic lost, but he wages valiantly.

thank you so much for coming on. so just to get the factual baseline set here, does a 79-year-old face a greater risk from covid than say a 22-year-old? >> it's shocking that the question even has to be asked at this point. i mean, this is one of the clear facts that has been known since spring of 2020, okay? we are now more than two years after knowing that it's thousands times more risk of death for people who are older than people who are younger. and that's just an example of a complete denial of fact that the public keeps being inundated with and it's very harmful. i think we have to understand something. when do we admit that the person in charge of the policy, dr. fauci, his advice has been wrong and a failure? his advice was followed and it's failed to stop the spread of infection, it failed to stop people from dying, and it killed and destroyed millions, including sacrificing our children.

that policy was a failure, yet somehow this person is given credence when he says we have to go and reinstitute his own policies that have failed. we have to realize also that the western european countries are pure countries even with their case numbers going up given that these cases are very, very low lethality. they have -- they are eliminating their restrictions. their cases are going up, get places like the u.k., switzerland, and elsewhere in western europe, are realizing that most people have had the infection, have natural protection, and the overwhelming percentage of people have had the vaccines as well, and so they are stripping away these edicts that are ineffective and failed. at some point, if we keep going back to that, we are going to be known as flat earth nation. >> tucker: i think we may already be there. if the president's spokesperson is telling us something that

every living american who can read nose is demonstrably, provably untrue, what does that prove? what's the strategy here exactly do you think? >> well, it's hard to figure their strategy, but what their strategy has done is that it has created a massive mistrust in our public health agencies, the politicization and mistrust of science has been extraordinarily harmful. the whole expert class has failed here, and that includes the leadership class in the universities and in government and of course, as you know, in the media. and so now the burden is shifted to individuals to be thinking adults, to be critical thinkers to make an effort to understand who is saying what that's reasonable to learn some of the data and make the best decisions for themselves and their families. >> tucker: that is such a wise point though. the cost in trust is just beyond figuring. people don't believe in gravity or photosynthesis anymore,

they've been lied to so much. it's really sad to watch. dr. atlas, i appreciate you coming on tonight, for all you've done. thank you. >> thank you very much. speeone's over at "the new york times" they go through at least one severe to sort of assess their lives and which lies can they now admit relies because there's no cost to admitting it and today they, we will admit that the hunter biden laptop story is real. what does that mean exactly? just ahead. ♪ ♪

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world, steamy salina, just got a big promotion. fox's bill pollution has that story for us. hey, bill. >> tucker, georgia democratic candidate stacey abrams has apparently ascended to higher office. she made a cameo as the president of all united earth on the season four finale of "star trek discovery." take a look. >> we greet the president of the united earth. ♪ ♪ >> madam president. >> madam president. >> welcome. i am so pleased that you've come. we are eager to begin to pull medic discussions. >> nothing to discuss. united earth is ready right now to rejoin the federation. >> and the showrunner said in an interview that she's in all that abrams appeared on the finale and that she would love to have her back on another episode. as for abrams, she has been

known as a big fan of "star trek." she previously held a virtual fund-raiser with some of the cast members for democratic georgia senators raphael warnock and jon ossoff, that was an attempt to drum up support for president biden. abrams is now the only democrat running for governor of georgia. it's her second time trying to do it after she lost that same race back in 2018. and tucker, her aspirations may not be too far off from what we just saw there on that "star trek" episode. back in may, she said she absolutely hopes to be president of the united states someday. send it back to you. >> tucker: i'm kind of half rooting for her. you don't see a lot of novelists in public life. you know? too few, too many, we will let you judge. great to see you tonight, thank you. shortly before the last presidential election, "the new york post" did what journalists are supposed to do, they dug up news. they come up with a dash covered up the contents of hunter biden's personal laptop and boy was there a lot on them.

pictures of hunter biden putting m&ms on his private parts but also extensive evidence of the biden families long-term overseas influence peddling operation. how they live in those houses? because they're getting paid off by foreign governments in exchange for favors. the ukrainian government among others. so we took a look at those claims and quickly confirmed the laptop was authentic and as part of that reporting process we interviewed tony belinsky. he has mentioned the laptop numerous times. but in a twist that will haunt us for the rest of our lives, that laptop was used as a pretext to impose a vast censorship regime on the united states of america. big tech censored "the new york post" on the basis that it was russian disinformation. joe biden did the same. on the debate stage, setting 50 former intelligence officials, all of them liars, biden again called the whole laptop story russian disinformation. >> president biden: we are in a situation where we have

foreign countries trying to interfere in the outcome of our election. his own national security advisor told him that what is happening with his buddy -- well, gosh -- i will. his buddy rudy giuliani. he's being used as a russian pond. he's being fed information that is russian -- that is not true. >> tucker: foreign interference in our elections! of course the irony is the laptop showed that foreign companies and governments had been paying the biden family in exchange for changing u.s. policy for those countries. selling out our nation for cash. the ukrainians most famously. but the rest of the media dutifully echoed joe biden's life. watch. >> disinformation that he knows to be fabricated and supplied by a foreign intelligence service and despite the warning he is still doing it. >> you have fed this entire thing -- said this entire thing

is i was there russian plot. >> it is sort of a crazy quilt at this point which has all the hallmarks of russian disinformation. that said, it wasn't for lack of trying. >> a sickly functioning as a russian asset by pushing russian disinformation. >> cnn reported on friday that u.s. authorities are seeing at those emails we just talked about are connected to an ongoing russian disinformation effort. >> tucker: is pretty amazing when you look back at that. a lot of people you just saw our cable news dingbats, they've never read a book in our lives, they just read the script, whatever, but a couple of the people in that montage are supposedly serious people who held positions of real authority. one of them was the u.s. ambassador to russia. another one was a high fbi executive. and if they all dutifully repeated the same line. things have changed, biden is now president. "the new york times" can admit what we all knew all along, the laptop is totally real, it's not russian disinformation. according to "the new york times" "the biden

families emails appeared to have come from a laptop abandoned by mr. biden in the delaware apparel shop and were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation. so this is a massive, massive win for the people, i guess, who were censored, and first among them is miranda devine, who was censored when she tried to tell the truth. she is a columnist for "the new york post," we are happy to have her join us tonight. how does this field have been "new york times" admit that you were right all along? >> it's kind of delicious to see them sort of squirming around trying to admit the obvious, but you know, if you're a reader of "the new york post" or if you will are at fox news, you knew this 16 months ago. he didn't need the great "new york times" to tell you that it was true and at that the emails. we already did that. and we published truth, the stories that were real and have continued to do so without fear or favor.

but unfortunately "the new york times" readers have been kept in the dark by their newspaper, or organ of choice, and that was for deliberate reasons. it was because they wanted donald trump to lose the 2020 election. so all journalistic ethics and standards went out the window and it doesn't matter how you try and dress it up now and pretend that you just found out. even if you didn't have the laptop, as you know, because you interviewed tony at the time, he was a patriot, a hero, who stood up against his own interests to tell the world the truth about joe biden and about his influence peddling, the way he abused his power to make money from foreign countries at the expense of america's national interests, we are now reaping the spoils of that and i think, you know, ultimately what we need to know now that we are all in the same page, now that we

agree that reality is reality, what do we do next, and i think the next step is to actually look at the evidence of wrongdoing by the president and his family, obviously, but he's the important one, that's contained in the laptop, and do something about it. >> tucker: and throw out the censorship regime that began that day when the censored you. they knocked parlor off the internet. we've never really recovered from that. everything we say is no censored and no one says anything about it. >> yes. and also the 50 former intelligence people, john brennan, former recent head of the cia, that was leon panetta, that was james clapper and michael hayden, these people who now to this day appearing on cnn and msnbc as esteemed experts on russia and ukraine, and those people should never hold their heads up in public again. it their reputations are destroyed by the fact they've

signed that letter and lied about the laptop and said without looking at it that it was russian disinformation and they got joe biden off the hook. >> tucker: you think of all the people who have been destroyed for nothing, some stupid comment, you know, and then criminals who walk free, a lot of men. miranda devine, thank you. >> thanks so much, tucker buried >> tucker: michael mccaul is a republican, congressman from houston, one of the leading voices in washington pushing for war with russia paired we vehemently disagree with his position. it seems very obvious that by the end of the conflict that he had others or promoting, china will be firmly in charge of the world. we don't want that at all. on the other hand, we assume that michael mccaul has honest reasons for his views. we always give people the benefit of the doubt. but michael mccaul does not assume the same about us. in recent days, maccoll has told a number of people that the show is an organ of russian disinformation. in other words, not only are we

wrong, which is fine, we are disloyal americans, we are doing the bidding of a foreign power. that is not fine. that is slander. unlike him, we are only and narrowly interested in the interests of our own country. that would be the united states, where we were born and where we plan to die. we don't count the russian government says. we only care with united states does and what our future looks like i'm a because have children here. but what's interesting is that his slander against us, russian disinformation, is also a well-worn democratic party talking point. joe biden, for example, calls anything he doesn't like russian disinformation and has for years. you just heard, that's the very same lie that he told about his son's incriminating laptop and many, many other things. so you have to ask yourself, why are so many republicans suddenly talking with joe biden? and the answer is because on the big questions, the questions that matter, they agree with each other, and you should know that.

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♪ ♪ >> tucker: so the war in ukraine grinds on. many atrocities, you watch them on television all day long, civilian publishing besieged, thousands running for their lives or killed. the united states planning to send more armaments to the ukrainian military. no assurance that will end the killing. so into this sad maelstrom strides nancy pelosi, who we told you last night is, among many other things, a military strategist. today she may have unveiled the most powerful weapon in her armament, which she is sending directly to ukraine. it's not a missile, it's not an antitank stinger, it's a poem by bono of u2.

listen. >> i got this message this morning from bono. and most of us, we are always -- whether we are in ireland or here or whatever it is, bono has been a very irish part of our lives. oh st. patrick, he drove out the snakes with his prayers, but that's not all it takes. they struggle for us to be free from the psycho in this human family. ireland's sorrow and pain is now the ukraine and st. patrick's name is now zelenskyy. [laughter] [applause] >> tucker: so let's say you knew bono, let's say he was a friend of yours, you'd seen him at events and he texted you a poem that he'd written on st. patrick's day. what would you do with that poem? you probably read it to your spouse, may be forwarded to your kids, brad glick bono texted me has poem. what you would not do is read it

in public in deadly seriousness unless you had your head so far up your own butt that you had no idea where you were, in which case you would pull it out and read it like you just ended the war. you and bono. thanks, nancy. so according to a new report on the bbc, vladimir putin is open to a possible cease-fire in ukraine. he recently spoke to the president of turkey. bbc reports that he wants a "promise ukraine will be neutral and will not join nato. so obviously ending this, we are russia out of ukraine would save an awful lot of ukrainian lives and perhaps restore the world to calm and a closer shade of normal, so everyone of course should be rooting for this on some level. will it happen? doug macgregor is a former senior advisor, secretary of defense, veteran up for himself, happy to have him join us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. people are very frustrated by what's happening to ukraine, i

think understandably, but there's been almost no talk of a peaceful end to this disaster. i'm not quite sure why no one is talking about that. is it potentially possible? >> actually, tucker, mr. zelenskyy has mentioned neutrality along with some of the other conditions, autonomy, renouncing any claim on crimea. i think in truth the russians and ukrainians are very close right now to a cease-fire and ultimately to some sort of agreement that ends this tragedy. secretary blinken's remark this afternoon actually intimated that. he said that we would support president zelenskyy's decision to sign an agreement. he didn't go into any other detail, but that's the first time that anybody has really mentioned this. the war is really over for the ukrainians. they have been grounded to bits. there's no question about that despite what we report on our mainstream media.

so the real question for us at this stage is if there is an agreement, tucker, are we going to live with the russian people and their government? or are we going to continue to pursue this sort of regime change dressed up as ukrainian war? are we going to stop trying to use ukraine or anybody else as a battering ram against moscow, which is effectively what we've done. we really, really need to live with these people as opposed to kill them. i don't have an immediate answer, but somebody needs to deal with this because we do cohabit the planet. >> tucker: there are 144 million of them. but also caught in the middle of this are the ukrainians. a lot of people who have done nothing wrong and just kind of want to live and not be killed. and yet we interviewed a republican, one of the most warlike republicans of congress last night who sounded very disappointed and disapproving of the idea that there could be a cease-fire. she wants more war. that feels like a very common reaction in washington. we want more ukrainians to be killed. why? i don't understand that.

>> there are a lot of people that first of all don't understand that what the russians have talked about is austrian or swedish style neutrality. that certainly isn't destructive and it hasn't harmed anybody. austria certainly benefited from it. there's also the other problem that people have confused, not drug but the people inside the beltway, russia with iraq. russia is not iraq. this is not a country you can bully at will. and that's been demonstrated pretty conclusively. there are also people that are confused because they don't seem to understand that ukraine is not texas, that our military strength, our security, needs to be improved in texas first and foremost, not in the ukraine. but then there's another aspect of this that people are missing in the united states. we face the dedollarization frankly of the international finance system if we don't bring this to a stop and start working with the rest of the world. india, china, numerous other

countries, brazil, have all said look, we're not going to join a sanctions regime. the germans and japanese of said we will buy oil and gas from the russians, sorry. >> tucker: i mean, this could make us poor, and we should care i think about that. thank you for reminding us. doug macgregor, good to see you. so keith olbermann was never emotionally balanced. he got fired from many jobs for not being, but he was, for a long time, the most popular liberal on tv in america. so it's interesting to see what he's saying now and to note that no one is saying anything back to him. not a good precedent. we will explain it after the break. ♪ ♪

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reston asset and other irredeemable" whatever. what's interesting is here's keith oberman, doesn't have an iq over 100, calling for his political opponents to be arrested and jailed and no one on the left has denounced him? here's how that works. they say something insane and then 5 minutes later it happens. we will be back tomorrow night. ♪ ♪ >> sean: welcome to "hannity" and tonight again we start with a fox news alert. tonight we are tracking the situation on the ground outside of kyiv after ukrainian forces waged a major counteroffensive against russia's front line. we're going to take you there live in just a moment. plus, a not so bombshell report from "the new york times," the so-called paper record -- yes, they finally admitted only two years late that hunter biden's laptop hell is very real and zero experience hunter and his dad, the big guy, they might be in serious