as always thank you for beingak with you. po make this show possible please set your dvr so you never miss an episode. in the meantime let not your heart be troubled. laura ingraham is up next . brian kilmeade filling in for laura tonight. we hope you have a great weekend. we'll see you back here on monday. hi, everybody. i'm brian tillman in for laura ingraham and this is a special edition of the ingraham angle. so let's get started with what we have a lot to get to tonight , including the reemergence of potential goodbye f. your fingers crossed of dr fauci plus, are we going to get any accountability for those who lied about hunter biden's laptop, especially f t those 50 intel folks who told us it was a fake it was a phony . but we begin tonight with the big news of the day. earlier president bidenen held what was billed as a high stakes call about 9:00 a.m. eastern with president xi of

china. the topic oh , i don't know determining what role china was playing in backfilling russia during the war in ukraine, for example, with weapons, money and oil. it came one week after reports of russia asked china for military support and a lot of aid. they were running out of money and one day after chinese and russian officials hadd. a chance to meet face to face so t well, joe biden oddly decided not to mention his call during his first appearance of the day. he left it to his press secretary, jen psaki, to playue cleanup, i guess. and predictablyssss unbelievably fashion. she made sure to project bidenad as in command. >> the president spent the vast majority of the nearly two hours spent with the president outlining the views of the united states and our allies and partners on this crisis, including a detailed overview of efforts to prevent and then respond toe the invasion. and of course, as was also noted in the readout. but let me just reiterate, ye he also conveyed and describes dthe implications and consequences if china provides material support to

corussia, can we possibly not get spin just one time? can we just get the facts? it should be noted that the biden administration has issued and everything else and beijing ignored that . in fact, they usually come back with sarcastic retorts om. now the chinese came away from this meeting clearly thinking they had the upper hand . h that'san not included in the white house reading it was the alleged chinese response. but the chinese did have a response late this afternoon, shenkar qinsheng said, which is basically china's wire service.e they released a readout of the biden xi call and ed wong of the new york times summarized it this way. quote it indicates no change in china's stance. she didn't suggest a role china would play in ending the war and he used a favorite phrase of his cast of of his to cast blame on the u.s. quote let let he those let he who tried to build the tiger on the tiger's neck take it off. so where do things stand right now? let's bring in two of the best

in the business that the. youo can read between the two r up and down the lines. here now is gordon chang, senior obamagate stone institute and author of the great u.s. china tech war . and stephen mosher is here, president of the population research institute and author of bully of asia. gordon, let's start with you. statements aside, there was a lot at stake today. what was the goal for president biden and do you think he got there? president biden, you want to clarify china's role because there have been a lot of statements from chineseutre officials and from propaganda outlets. i actually don't think that he g did that because what he got in return really were statements of generality from xi jinping we picked up on the shinhwa release but alsot some ambiguous statements like china didn't want to see the result in the ukraine war , which probably meant something along the lines of we're very sad to see vladimir putin being beaten up by the ukrainians. so i don't think that the

chinese were terribly impressed with the warnings and indeed we're going to have to impose sanctions on china if we want to move the chinese in the right direction. >> t and bideno has not been willing to do that yet. steve, that's one thing that china does not want. they don't want the secondary sanctions. they're not really loving the fact that they'll be best friends with the pariah of the world at this moment. ththit's not in their best interests to make it so apparent it seems to be best buddies with russia and do whatever they ask correct? well, correct. but remember that china encouraged putin's invasion of ukraine, hoping to embroil the u.s. in the conflict. i think he's been taken aback by the robustness of the response by the ukrainian people and also by the response of the world, brian, because look, australia and japan in his neighborhood and his neighborhood are joining in the sanctions china. so the russian bet isn't looking so smart now and pay attention to the fact that the u.s. ambassador to ukraine from china, ambassador ban, said

in this situation he told the ukrainian people we will act responsibly and how great the unity of the ukrainiani people is and that means its strength. so i think that he's saying that china is sayingg that it's not a walk in the park for putin. if putin had seized kyiv and a couple of weeks install a puppet regime and the world had been saying, well, that was historically russian territory anyway, let's just look away.ld it b would be one thing, but that's not how it's working out. so my fauci betray putin. might he retreat from the agreements they just signed? of course, but not because y ou today or any other day they would retreat because biden is putin isil looking more like a loser every day just l as russia of course s no longer a superpower. it's looking less and less like a superpower every day. and gordon, you're always good. you see the numbers, but then you see the story behind the numbers. i see a gdp that's getting very growing, very slow for them. it's about five . i see the american virus t hitting them hardhi and hurtingh

their economy again and their people. obviouslyis i also see something else. i see all the nationalizing of industries they're putting down of entrepreneurship and the degree of free enterpriseea really affecting their growth in their economy. do you think i they really neede sanctions at this time, especially with president xi up for another five year term? sanctions at this time wouldwo make china extremely vulnerable. you know, they claimed eightna l point one percent gross domestic product growth last year. but even by their own numbers, they show that their economy isc slowing fast because they only claim four point zero percentnt and you know, brian, those numbers are exaggerated. they've got a debt crisis y they can't get past. omicron, as you pointed out, is shutting down large portions of the chinese economy, including shenzhen and the south, which is critical for the tech sector and their markets have really gone into retreat and they would have stayed at the bottom had it not andnd for a governmet

announcement a couple of days ago. so now china is where we want it and the question is whether biden has the will to push china by imposing those sanctions. i don't think that he has because he doesn't really want to do that . steve, final thought? the president is using the same approach with build back better as he's doing with china, but the stakes are much higher. he couldn't he could not convince joe manchin to do what he asked and they're in the same partyn . g can he convince president xi to not give arms, to not give weapons, to not not buy the oil of russia? no. china look is bound on its ownry trajectory through time they will operate always and ever more in the interest of the chinese communist party . their own interests ar and lasty ,perhaps in the interest of the chinese people. that is of course last i wish that we had a government that was capable of acting in the interest of the american people in this situation and in all situations. don't. i mean, look, we have a president in the white house whose family has taken money a

from ukraine, russia and china ,all of the major players. i think he's fatally compromised. well, my hope is that china understands that there are fading power in russia and it's to their advantage to deal with a newly reunited europe and that's probably the best we can hope for. thanks, guys. have a great weekend. all right. >> well, straight ahead, we take you now speaking of the place at war , ukraine where fox senior foreign correspondent greg palkot has some important updates from leveed. to you and it's quiet. >> is it quiet there now? at the moment it is early saturday morning here, brian>> and leveed. butur friday morning it was very noisy. they had four cruise missiles slamming into an aircraft repair facility about four miles from where we're standing.

that is we are less than 50 miles from the polish border. one stray missile goes intoli poland.sh you've got nato, you've got the u.s. involved in this conflict. and brian, there could be more trouble heree. this region is a key conduit for military supplies coming from outside ukraine to the ukrainian military like anti-tank stinger missiles. russian foreign minister lavrov friday said if they think convoys are coming in withir weaponry, they are, in his words, fair game. finally, we saw a rally friday pumped up by russian president putin to try to win support for his war. reports are that putin spelled out to his sometime friend turkishng w and erdogan what he wants from ukraine. neutralityk no nato disarmament deal , not suffocation. t thereth are reportsts that president zolensky is willing to compromise on nato even neutrality, but denazification. it really sounds more and more like president putin is fighting world war two on this this bloody terrain

back to yeah, there some technical problems too. i was reading some of the transcripts. he didn't seem too eloquent. greg palkot, thank you very much. joining me right now to talk more about this and where we go from here, someone who's beenio tracking all the various negotiations better than most, neil ferguson from the hoover institute senior fellow there. neil, i can't see ukraine agreeing to all of those conditions, perhaps some should we feel optimistic about this fourth round of talks and the fifth? i'm not too optimistic, brian. we do see the outlines of a deal and you know what it isto ukraine not a nato. neutral state, a little bit like finland with some security guarantees. i think this makes a lot of sense. that really is d going to slowow things down has to do with territory. the thing is the ukrainians are doing well enough to feel that they don't need to i give any territory. they're even beginning tobe wonder if they can get crimea

back or donetsk and luhansk and this is in factct the interesting thing. it's the russians who've been giving concessions in the negotiations more than the ukrainians. but i'm not sure i really would believe a ceasefire that vladimir putin agreed to at any point in the next few weeks that might just be an opportunity for the russians to regroup. as you know, brian, they've taken extremely heavy casualties maybe as many as 7000 lost in the space of three weeks more than the u.s. lost in the entirety of its time in iraq, worst performance by the soviets and in afghanistan in the 1980s. and so they may well need a breathing space, butut i don't want you to get the impression t that the ukrainians are winning. they're not losinge y, but the russians are still gaining ground. they may not be in a position to encircle and take kharkiv, which may have been the original plan, but they are in a position i fear to gain ground in the east of the country, potentially quite significant ground.

mariupol could fall at any moment and the russians have their eyes on odessa and if they can capture michalina, there is a distinct possibility that they will control trthe entirety of ukraine's coast. so i don't think we should get the impression just because the ukrainians are putting upse a really impressive defense that they're winning. they're not and there's a distinct fear in my mind that russia could make grind out more gains using its siege warfare tactics. they're brutal, they're bloody, but i'm afraid they may over a period of weeks gain more ground. you know, just i want you to hear what phil taylor said, former ambassador to ukraine. ou >>nd he's got some contacts on the ground, a little bit more optimistic in the end. >> i am absolutely convinced that ukraine will win and that will set the stage for people like president putin and others in the chain of commandd who bombed civilian targets. so that will set the stage for that kind of accountability. president solinsky and his team, they will decide what to

negotiate, how negotiate, what to put on the table, what not. we should support. right. and then you've got to wonder about the withering support, neal, within russia, there's reports of empty shell vanishing goods. people noticing their bank accounts are somewhat frozen and limited. th finalou thought on where we stad here we are one month in . >> look, i yield to no one in my admiration for president zolensky and the heroic ukrainian people as they fight this war defense. but i think we shouldn't makeak the mistake of believing that we can somehow drive russia to a crisis which will lead to the overthrow of vladimir putin. i worry that our strategy at the moment, brian, i think this is the bush administration's strategy is to let this war keep going in the belief that they're bleeding russia dry and it will ultimately lead to putin's downfall. i think that's still a long shot when i look at our record

of forcing regime change through sanctions in cuba, ec iran, north korea,or it is a record of failure. and i worry very much that allowing this war to drag on not using the power of the united states to intervene and bring about a settlement is risking that putin can ultimately declare some kind of victory. the risks of this strategy i think are reallye r skewed to the downside in a way that not many people in washington seem to appreciate. yeah, no, we're not taking the there maybe maybe we don't we don't have the qualifications and the fair and balanced approach. they got the germans in there. ionsthe french are talking, the turks are talking, but the u.s. is not pulling the things away and nor is leaning on xi jinpingng and threatening him with sanctions the way to bring this war to an end only if the united states takes the lead to try to bring about a ceasefire and then a lasting peace is going to end. but i feel we're gambling on the war that keeps going

in the hope that putin falls. i wouldn't hold my breathi woexpecting putin's downfall. that is just not the way russian history tends to play out there. absorb punishment. they're famousment for that and they can take a life from that whole thing that they really can. scorched earth was their retreat while burning everything they had and surviving. niall ferguson, thanks so much. great perspective. straight ahead, one of the most under covered aspects around the hunter biden laptop scandal with the 50 intel officers who sold us that that was russian disinformation and told the media some was even cia director in fact to were in moments. we're going to show you some of the worst offenders. plus, an update on the transgender swimmer leah thomas. it's her ncaa championship quest. we have a verdict in a new media is trying to bring

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>> all right. be anyere accountability over the hunter biden laptop story? probably not. you know whycccc the same folks that have been unpunished have been getting so much wrong over the past twenty years who are the ones who perpetrated the perpetrated this whole fraudst that let's remember how the russian misinformation lie was laundered had fifty officials

in the intel community. they wrote a letterr declaringee it a russian op and then went on tv to propagate the lie. >> you have a president who is asking to obtain russian disinformation and his then turning it and using it on the campaign. t you have a willing target and the russians reverse sophisticated about how to exploit it a willing target. and to me that's what's at worka here. do you think stuff like that could just have beenn planted in there and be completely fake or do i think the e-mails could be could be contrived? he's such an embarrassment. how dodo they keep him employed and the media organizations that keep these people on their payrolls lapped all up. the president happens to be peddling a series of unsubstantiated new york post stories claiming emails found on a laptop, the delaware repair shop historias for posters. so we're supposed to believe sho that hunter biden in a drunken stupor dropped off b his laptop

in i guess apparently. repair office the new york post, which is t the only place low enough to put this thing on print. he wasn't in a drunken stupor to be honest. he was on crack. so rob omari was the op ed editor at the new york post when the story broke. he's now contributing editor at the american conservative and joins me now. so robert, your reaction to the new york times comingg out and saying, yeah, the story's authentic and all those critics that even picked up the phone to say was that your email found on the laptop? and now like i said on twitter, brian, i can't even summon the anger anymore in reaction to something like this because you know, two years ago my colleagues of the new york post who did this story, i was on the opinion side more defending the story. i knew that a work that had gone into this was honest journalism and it was better sourced than a mountain of anti trump stories that had

appeared in the mainstream media yet that wasn't called disinformation even though those anti trump stories collapsed under factual scrutiny. this you had the paper trail. the post was very honest aboutne how we came aboutst this information and those emails. and so to watch the liesg that were purportedbe not just by blue check media but by blue media accepting whatever the deep state quote unquote intelligence community said like it was the gospel and using that to justify big tech censorship at the time was in two years later there's more of a simmering anger. it's no longer that level of rage it used to back it up. i asked the attorney general at the time, william barr, today you'll see this whole interview tomorrow on one nation. i said what did you do when you read about this and you saw the new york post social media accounts frozen and they said this was russian disinformation is what he said.

>> we had the dni and the fbi. the fbi worked for me and the department both came out f and said it was not related to russian disinformation. the media completely ignored that and continued to suppress it as in social media. and he went on to say that joe biden lied at the debate when he said he knew nothing about it and he said it was all about russian misinformation. and what about this saurabhhou? john brennan, cia director leon panetta said every important job in thet government, general michael hayden ran the cia. john mclaughlin too. and mike morrell, all of them said russian disinformation. they knew it wasn't russian disinformation. yeah, i mean this just shows you what the trump administration faced from the day it came into the office. it wase the hostility of this intelligence security apparatus machine that hated president trump from the beginning and threw everything they had at him

with the help of a pliant blue check media prestige media ,all the outlets that you reviewed in the earlier segment where they worked hand in hand with big tech for four years and then this thing came and they cooperated as well. the thing that's shameful is you and i are journalists, brian, is the way that the press interacted with these former intelligence officials. the relationship between newspaper men and reportersrs and the intelligence community isn't supposed to be so friendly. it's supposed to be adversarial. these people iend wield a lot of power and you're supposed to ask them questions when they say stuffstio you're not supposed to say. oh , yes, sir.y mr. clapper. that's right. yes, it isn't disinformation. you're supposed to check it.su that doesn't mean you should believe the new post. you should do your own reporting as another reporter and see if it's true or not before just repeating what some expert says or claims. how about this ? hey, joe , biden, have you ever met tony babinski? did you meet did you meet at

the beverly hilton hotel? did he talk about international deals and takeg care of your son? because right at the beginninght of the unraveling of the story and the accuracy of what's in that laptop, it's unbelievable. >> so rob, thanks so much. i hope you like your new job. i hope to see you soon.ik it was just hunter's laptop that gave the white housen. headaches today. white house press secretary jen psaki was grilled all about hunter biden and other entanglements. >> if times reported this week that for some remains under criminal investigation, the president still intend to stay out of that case. yes, the department of justice i'm pointing to them. he told me last year that you were unfamiliar with the senate report that alleged that the first son or a company linked to the first son received three billion dollars fromm the richest woman in russia, t a subsequent reporting indicates that president biden, when he was vice president had dinner in georgetown with the same woman in twenty fifteen. how is president biden navigating conflicts of interest when it comes to sanctioning people who have done business with family? and can you explain to us what

this three point five million dollars for? i don't have any confirmation of the accuracy of that report, so i have no more further details about conflicts of interest, how he's navigating this when deciding sanctions, what would be his conflicts of interest? his son's company allegedly got three point five million dollars, which i have no confirmation of and he has continued to sanction oligarchs more than we've everon sanctiond in the past. i'm not sure that's a conflict of interest. >> steven nelson, new york post joining us right now. congressman issa on the house judiciary committee. congressman, welcome back issue right. no conflict of i interestnt whatsoeverer. well, what she said was she didn't have the facts, therefore she couldn't do it.co you know, one thing that's interesting, brian, 18 01 is when the new yorkk post began publishing if you can take down one of the ten longest running newspapers in the united states, one that predates ohio as a state, then you can take anything down and that's what this shows

and that's why there needs to be a thorough investigation of the, the coordination that went on between the media between these fifty one , including former cia directors like clapper and the like and obviously this wholesl question of taking downor a printed newspaper of recordd by twitter as though it was quote fake news that's not what section two was. therefore we intended to haveto protection against taking down ,not protection that would stifle the free press and quite frankly, this is the largest h scandal in in modern history because it clearly was enough to make a difference in the outcome of the electiono ma. anyone would know that if you if you knew then what you know now, which is that hunter biden and vice president biden are clearly involved in corrupt behavior and then covered up. >> you know, so it's saying, congressman, it's not a matter

of somebody with a drug addiction. everybody watching this right now can relate to that story directly or indirectly. we get it. it'secindi about international s trading on the family name that got them rich. w wehe don't know where the money is, but we don't we know there's a huge investigation that's going on for yearsthis and yet the president's allowed to still deal with theseresi countries at the highest level . and we're not talking about hearsay. it's in print. there are travel records. his business partners. are in jail. . there's pictures of them together. there's pictures of joe biden with these dicey characters. so will you investigate something like this ? > do you think your party wil if you get control of the house ? well, when i would have had a gavel i've been pretty well understood to be a bulldog that doesn't let go ever. i don't get mad. i don't do anything except follow the facts and that the same will be true in this investigation whether it's

me heading it or other people. we're going to get to the truth . we have to because the american people have to know how we're going to keep this from happening again. going to keep the vice president united states from putting his on air force two and helping with his deals? there's no question at all that some of these activities that we're now aware of have to be prevented by lawy and certainly the taking down of newspapers or for that matter any free speech. w we've got to find a way to actually change the law, investigate, help you make the case for changing the law and that's what that's what congress has to do. short runt and long run. >> congressman, if you look at what's happening right now in the world, think about this the problems with russia and the problems we had here affect our relationship there. his dealings in ukraine please don't tell me you don't think ukraine's been in the news. i think you've been paying attention. and of course, china there was a meeting hours agogo with the press the united statessth. this relates to what's going on in the world and needs to bew

followed up on . darrell issa, thanks so much. meanwhile, straight had trained swimmer leah thomas, a biological male yesterday becoming an ncaa champion for the women's 500 freestyle hours go. thomas raced again in the two freestyle foxes and springer standing by with all the details then how did she do ? hey, brian. leah thomas failed this afternoon to add a secondad national championship finishing fifth in the women's 200 freestyle event. her time with a second and a half slower than she had in the prelims. but today's poor performance will do nothing to quiet the controversy, especially after the dominating win yesterday in the much longer race. some booed when she won and aap couple of dozen people protest outside the pool. ot others supported thomas, who skipped the mandatory news conference afterwards but did speak with espn. i try to ignore it as much as i can and focus on my swimming. what i need to get ready fornd my races and just try to blockck

out everything o else. thomas competed three years at university of pennsylvania as a man named will. he never qualified for the nationals two years into hormone therapy and after coming out as a transgenders woman, thomas was allowedal to compete this year as a woman. last month the male ncaa issued new guidelines for transgender athletes but did not enforce them for thomas in this week's nationals, some teammates and opponents have said it's simply not fair. >> i have a teammate who did not make finals today because she was just bumped out of the finals and it's heartbreaking to see someone who went through puberty as a male and has the body of a male be able to absolutely blow away the competition. penn, which>> t has supported thomas competing as a woman, is also now facing a civil rights lawsuit under title nine filedig thursday by the concerned women for america. its president saying quote, the future of women's sports is at risk and the equal rights ofa female athletesre are being infringed. leah thomas has one more race tomorrow.

it'sin the 100 yard freestyle event brian, this is a story that everyone is talking about, especially if you have a female athlete in your family and just wants a fair shot. and sosoi that's who title and i was about. thanks so much, dan springer. appreciate it. meanwhile,me fauci plays the roe of a politician about anthony fauci and shockingg new revisions from the cdc regarding covid deaths. not as many as we thought dr. nicole saphire uncovered this . she'll share that story in a matter of moments. >> don't move. why are so many people turning to super beach crystal? because super beach crystals give you the energy and blood pressure support you want from real beach without the beach and super beach. and i swear by it, it gives me more healthy energy to keep up with my schedule in support of was inspired by the nobel prize winning discovery of nitric oxide as a blood vessel signaling to supervise black cherry flavored crystals to unlock the nitric oxide

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price tag . is all of that money needed? i have to tell you, we need more than that really a day before that is decided to weigher in on the midterms too and worried that if republicans took back control of congress that he'd be held to account for once he told the washington post this is benghazi hearings all over again. they're going to try to beat me up in public and there'll be nothing there. so crtv and president obama and the committee to unleash prosperity this year and dr. nicole saphire, also fox news contributor, new york city physician. bill , first off then, may sound like a politician than somebody in the medical profession. well, he's literally out therein lobbying for more taxpayer money representingax the administration. it's the idea that he's some sort of a medical expert or someone that we should defer to is a little ridiculous at this point. and by the way, brian, we spent one point nine dollars trillion dollars a year ago. half of that money is still unspent m. republicans last week said, okay, you want this money for vaccines therapeutics?

that's fine, but take it out of the pot of eight hundred billion. that's sitting there unspent from the law last year and they're saying no, no, this has to be new money. on top of that , we can't possibly send less money to the states and to this slush fund and that slush fund whichel tells you how completely unserious this is. right. and by the way, last time he told us in june we can haveoo a cookout and by september we're getting hit by another variant. he was not ready for it. we don't have enough mass we have enough tests and we never prepared for the therapeutics and we finally got the therapeutic we didn't have enough of a therapeutic. dr. saffire, this for you. i want you to i want you to remember luco remember this when rashelle doctor cdc t director rochelle walensky said this . i know many of you watch our data closely and when something changes it can prompt c questions. and cdc director key principle is leading with transparency. so you remember, of course,

brian, i say it's it's really comical to hear the cdc talk about transparency and data in the same sentence. you know, first off all, the cdc ,brian, has completely failed entirely when it comes to transparency and being able to provide accurate data to the american people. peopl i mean, e.just this week they have quietly removed about seventy thousand guests from the covid death count that reduced the pediatric covid related deaths by about 24% and they're more accurate data collecting service, not the daily updated data trackerna but their national center for health statistics suggestsis tht number is probably even lower about 50% of what they have said pediatric deaths were. now this makes a big difference when you're talking about suchnu a small number of deaths. the nhs suggests about less than a thousand, maybe about nine hundred children have died from covid-19. that's out ofr over 1010 millin children who have been infected with the virus.

but they still can't tell how many of those children were healthy who died, how many ofe those children had natural immunity. how are we as physicians, as parents supposed to make risk based decisions as what is best for our children and people moving forward if we don't have accurate data fromte the cdc at this point, the high level leaders of the cdc, not only the americans apology, but they need to step down because they have created a massive disservice to this country when it has come to the restrictions and policies that have ensuedth as a direct resultis from their inaccurate data. i just i feel so much safer knowing that kyrie irving can't play basketball at home games for the for the nets that makes so much sense. final thought, this other american sub variants that might be right have cases rising in europe that we should be worried about this . dr. saffar, you go right right up to that . i wouldn't be i wouldn't be too worried about it. i think if you look at the countries that have been through sort of the back to

wave in south africa took over and there was really no increase at all in the cases. i think what we're seeing in europe right now is the same spring wave that we've seen. it's smaller than the winter wave but we've seen the last couple of yearsrst i do think we're going to get some of that in the u.s., particularly in the northern states, but it's going to be pretty small compared to what we just went through and it's really going to be driven more by's the seasonal forcing than the variance in my opinion. the point is the key thing is don't freak out.k >> it's okay. you know, and i agree brian covid is going to covid. we're going to see a rise and fall cases. the good news is even with vatu, what we're seeing from other countries is that natural immunity, vaccine induced immunity still is able to preventva severe disease and death when it comes to these variants. so again, it's time to move forward. this virus will be endemic and it's going to be cold flu and covid season, not just flu season. i asked your doctor to find out. thanks so much, guys. i appreciate it. meanwhile, the left is launching a smear campaign against this small college. >> that story next are you

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slate's campaign against hillsdale college how this tiny christian college is driving the right's nationwidech war against public schools. if you wonder what conservatives hope to install in place of the books they're trying to ban, the answer often lies in hillsdale freely licensed curricula. oh , this made me howell. joining me now is larry hogan, president of hillsdale college. dr. arnd, are you trying to ban books and destroy the public education system in america? ri i love the public education system and the charter schools that we're helping to found our public schools. they're just run differently without the bureaucracy. well, less of it. you can't get away from a bureaucracy in this day and agea ,butnd they're not subject to the rigors of control from above by countless experts. who do these crazy things in the schools today teaching

children to doubt everything in the worldld. now, dr. arne, i happen to know many hillsdale college graduates and i've gotten to know them well. some of them havee worked whether on my radio show or podcast or tv over the years and i have to say after having, you know, employed and had a staff from all over the country ,great schools, great kids, the hillsdale kids are something different and theyoc know the great books.at they know western civilization. they actually know what you know. ey the discussion of metaphysics aristotleut a an and all of the and it's really useful. that , however, is a threat to the left today because h they have been waging a warav against western civilization bee for as long as i was you know, c looking at this backan at dartmouth college in the eighties. but it's only intensified that make means that you guys

are making a difference of the coming after you as they are now. yeah, they're just measuring the you know, i mean, education is a wonderful thing. the first line of aristotle's metaphysics is the human being stretches himself out to know we love to know if you get in front of a group of kids you can count on it. they want to know things. t what do they want to know?w? they want to know what they are. hethey want to know the answer o all the questions they will face as they chart the course of their lives. that's what the great books are written about. it's very advantageous to a kid today in this oppressive society where the news is constant and ever demanding new things from youe that were never expected. d it's very good for a kid to step outside that to look at another time and age. w ifan you want diversity, read plato and then read his

student aristotle and you will discover they don't agree about everything and then you're invited into a huge conversation, the greatest ever that goes on to this day. but you can't participate in it if you just start with the newspaper today. and larry, last month we spoke to the former west point cadet t who left over the military vaccine mandate. what's lefthe west point, which is heartbreaking. now she went somewhere she feels much more welcome. >> watch. i was willing to drop everything because i was not going to compromise my laws for this agenda. i was willing to drop everything right then and there with, with the base and knowing that everything was going to be alright in .ee >> are you at hillsdale by the way? i see your health sweatshirt. >> oh my god.ho what a great what a great school. now larry, do you have a lot of folks who ended up leaving other colleges and universities looking at hillsdale because

whether they have natural immunity or other objections, they decided, you know, they wanted to make it make a change. you still go and get a great education is actually working in my office right nowowce and she's school. and also when you walk up to her , she sort of stands to attention and feel the urge to tell her not to salute. she yeah, we're besieged applications of every kind. we haven't got a bed free anywhere. and the other motive than the vaccine it's driving people to us is there's a wonderful article, by the way, and there is some stack on that very wytches site on substract by one of our transfer came in st. thomas michela. and what she says is where she was before grandma. they don't ever talk about anything off because there's a standard answer and it gets boringng after a while to recite

that . but it's dangerous not to. and so they're offensive and infantilized and that's what's going on . larry, on i'm not going to tellw everybody how long i've known you, but let's just say i wasyo really young and so are you, larry. it's so great to see you. congratulations on everything you've done at hillsdale all of work you continue to do and we're just we're just glad you're a national resource and a national treasure. >> thank you so much. l well, what a great college. final thoughts when we return. don't move . this was when i noticed how white my sinuses were and how yellow mine were and i

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