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>> reporter: the ukrainians have been able to bog down any progress the russians have been able to make, particularly with the town of mariupol. the fighting, as you know there, has been severe, and the civilians have paid a very, very heavy price. we're know now getting some images that indicate russians are, indeed, getting into the city of mariupol. if you lack at the images -- look at the images, it looks like an apocalypse. there. the russian army has been bombarded, has been bombarding that coastal town since the start of the invasion. 80% of the housing is destroyed. two days ago a theater being used as a bomb shelter was hit. casualties cannot be totaled, rescuers cannot get in to figure out how many people were injured or killed in that. if russia gains control of mariupol, it will be one of the few big population centers to fall, and it will give russia a foothold on the sea of azov, but it comes at a very, very heavy price with civilian casualties so severe that mass graves have been used. ukrainian president volodymyr
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zelenskyy is calling for meaningful negotiations. >> translator: thanks to the courage and professional training of the ukrainian armed forces, the occupation forces were stopped in almost all directions. it's time to meet, time to talk. it is time to restore territorial integrity and justice for ukraine. >> reporter: around ten human atarian corridors are supposed to open up today, some in the area of mariupol, but going all the way up to kyiv. the accounts that we have of people coming out of mariupol is that the ceasefires that are supposed to accompany these humanitarian corridors are falling apart, but the people are so desperate to get out, they brave the gunfire and quite literallyly run for their lives. some of the aid is coming back in. most significantly, you've got about 14 buses that are going to be loaded with food and medical supplies going into the town of kherson. the reason that is so interesting is because it's one of the first towns to fall to the russians. it's supposed to be in control
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of the russian army, still the aid is coming in. meehl? neil? neil: mike tobin, thank you very much. in the meantime, we're still trying to find out exactly what came of those better than two- hour talks that president biden had with xi jinping of china. the chinese are saying very little in their own right. the only thing we have to go on right now is the comment from the foreign pin minister of russia who had said right now that china can still be counted on by the russians, that that this cooperation, he says, will get stronger because at a time when the west is blatantly undermining all the foundations on which the international is based. of course, with we, as the two great powers, need to think how to carry on in this word. again, this is from russian foreign minister sergey lavrov. let's go to mark meredith right now. the president is in delaware this weekend. very little details from the white house as to what transpired in that call, but the russians are seizing on that
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vacuum, i guess, and saying, no. china, you can count on them to help us. what do you think of that? >> reporter: hey, neil, good morning. we are trying to read between the lines from what the white house is saying, you mentioned after the lengthy phone call that president biden had with chinese president xi jinping, the white house calling the interaction both detailedded, substantive and direct. but the true outcome of this conversation may depend on what happens in the weeks ahead, basically whether or not china may intervene with russia given the war many ukraine. as you mentioned, neil, this conversation lasted nearly two hours. both leaders spoke at length about what's been going on on the ground in ukraine and the impact it may have between the relationship with u.s. and china going forward. we did get a readout which said the president described the implications and consequences if china provides material support to russia as it conducts attacks against ukrainian cities and civilians. the president underscoring his
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desire for a diplomatic resolution. china, no doubt, has played a large role. intelligence experts believe china asked russia to hold often on military plans until after the beijing winter games concluded, and china's relationship with russia has certainly grown closer in recent years. a spokesperson for the chinese foreign ministry is signaling, however, that china would like to see peace at some point, tweeting, quote: there have been and will continue to be differences between china and the u.s. what matters is to keep such differences under control. a steadily growing relationship is in the interest of both sides. now, both leaders also reportedly talked about taiwan and the u.s. commitment to continuing to provide the taiwanese military with defense capabilities, but also we saw china in that same tweet warning the u.s. again not to have such strong support for taiwan that the beijing government would not look favorably upon that. as the president is here in delaware for the weekend, no major events on his schedule, but next week leaving wednesday
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for brussels for that major summit thursday at nato headquarters. meehl? neil: thank you, mark, very much. mark meredith traveling with the president. we're going to get a lot more on what might come of that meeting and how important is that china issued some sort of statement. remarkable that it has not. we've heard if from its finance minister, some others saying the support for russia a remains but very guarded in saying that support would be for his, quote-unquote, war with, a term that russia refused to use to address what's going on in the ukraine. president zelenskyy himself is saying that this has gotten starkly savage. take a listen. >> translator: it is reported of about 200,000 people were involved in the rally in the russian capital, 100,000 in the streets and about 95,000 at the stadium. approximately the same number of russian troops were involved in the invasion on ukraine. just imagine 14,000
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corporates -- corpses at the stadium income if russia. there are already so many russian losses as a result of in this invasion. [speaking in native tongue] neil: that was president zelenskyy here, i thought there was more. i apologize for that. what we have learned though is that that special event that vladimir putin planned at a packed moscow stadium was to counter the notion that the world is against him, that he has a great deal of support at home, and this is a cabal of western countries that are trying to annihilate russia and send a signal to the world that russia's greatest days are behind it. of course, he was saying just the opposite. how all of this is registering in russia, we simply don't know. but we have someone with us right now who's hoping eventually the tide turns there. she is convinced it already has in ukraine. first off, how you doing today? how you holding up in. >> hi, neil. thank you for having me.
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so we are holding up as usually, and we are -- every day we're getting stronger. we are using every single day of war to get ready, to prepare, to organize ourself and to help each other to go through the hard times. yesterday i was at the historic house that was hit by the russian missile, and i cannot tell you how hard it looks, how destroyed it is and how many people who were there who are helping out and bringing us food, clothing and helping out to clean it up. if so i'm very sure that we are going to hold up, and we will be pushing back russians. neil: kira, you know, it's very, very clear the strategy vladimir putin is using is to do as much harm to civilians as possible.
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most of his attacks on mariupol even though far from taking out aircraft repair facility supposedly to prepare for these migs a might come into your country, but his targets invariably are civilians; apartment buildings, two dozen hospitals, on and on, this theater where they're still trying to hunt for survivors. do your colleagues, your friends tell ukrainians, do they get intimidated by that? do they start saying i'm the target, it's not the soldiers who are the targets, i am this -- i am? >> look, neil, like day one of war we did realize that putin is not going on for ukrainian army. he's here for all of us, for each and every of us. and then it was claimed that each and every ukrainian is fighting him. so we understand that he will be fighting us back not just military, but civilians, hue
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handtarian convoys -- humanitarian convoys, children's hospitals. we it's not our first war with putin. we had one that was going on for eight years, and we know that he is -- we knew that he's not keeping his word, and we knew that he specifically -- and that kills civilians. i'm so upset that the world only sees it now, but we have seen it a while ago. this is what he is doing. and this is why we are saying there's no negotiations with him, this is why we are saying no peace with him. russia needs to be weakened out, it needs to be become new north korea because otherwise it will be repeating and repeating and repeating. neil: kira, be safe in the meantime. r -- kira rudik. 95% of the ukrainian parliament have stayed behind, some armed and ready for the fight when
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they could have easily left. that goes all the way up to president zelenskyy. they are there for the good night -- fight, and they say neary a month into this it's a sign that they are winning and that right now, vladimir putin, is taking desperate measures. it is those desperate measures we're focused on right now because all bets are off when a cornered, wounded animal, as some people like to call vladimir putin, what it can do. after this we look at that. ancestry's helped me really understand my family's immigration experience and what life must have been like for them. and as i pass it on to my daughter, it's an important part of understanding who we are. veteran homeowners, need cash? at newday you can borrow up to and as i pass it on to my daughter,
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neil: all right, we want to share some new video that's coming into our newsroom right now showing these humanitarian corridors that have been set up. i believe they've agreed to at least ten of them. the ukrainians say the russians aren't fully allowing people to pass through all ten. these are two that we are looking at in the middle part of the country down to the south where, you know, the fastest way
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that's been set up to allow departure from these war-torn areas. unfortunately, we're getting word that as these go on, russian airstrikes continue. how close they get to these corridors, we don't know. we know overnight at least 40 ukrainian soldiers that were killed after an airstrike by russian soldiers. if one of those strikes, by the way, came within about 3 miles of one of these corridors where ukrainians are going to flee the country. we keep talking about the better than 3 million, almost 3.5 million refugees in that country, who have left that country and is continue to leave that country. but to put it in a more dramatic terms, 1 in 5 ukrainians has now been displaced, either moving from one section of the country to the other or out of the country altogether. one in five. that's a staggering figure that is growing by the day. so we'll keep an eye on it for
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you. in the meantime, defense secretary lloyd austin in bulgaria has encountered some protesters, but talking in the meantime about the battle on nato's hands. >> in terms of their, the russians' progress in the south, i would say that they continue to make incremental gains. i would also say that they've used some brutal, savage techniques in terms of the way that they're been -- they've been targeting civilian population centers. and, again, we would hope that they would choose a different path. neil: all right. the bottom line is though that's getting, you know, a lot of people scared, anyone in that neighborhood scared as this battle raises tensions that it could go well beyond ukraine. we just don't know. griff jenkins following all of that now with the very latest. griff. >> reporter: good morning. you mentioned 3.3 million
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refugees. it's a country that only has 41 million, that's roughly 8 of the country's fleeing because putin intends to increase attacks. we're seeing three significant developments, neil. i want to start with the news you started your show with, and that is the cutting off of access. here in mariupol which is a scorched earth city right now just being hammered by russian forces, we, of course, saw russian forces in the donbas move down all along here. but it is in mariupol that we got news today from ukraine's defense ministry that they had lost access to the sea of azov. now, that is this body of water right here, and it is through the porty of mariupol -- port city of mariupol that defense ministry says they lost access to that. that's troubling because also here is the black sea. this is the larger black sea. if i go back to the color red, if the russian advance continues through kherson all the way to
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odesa is, they could ultimately cut off not only access to the sea of azov, but also to the black sea. now, i just want to show you the other development. the second development, very troubling, are the stripes in the west. pike tobin talks -- strikes in the west. mike tobin talked about it. we first saw the strikes here, but then, of course, there was that last week almost to the week, it was last sunday, i believe, that you had that base somewhere between this 43 miles between lviv and the polish border right here, you saw a base hit. and then the international airport in the areas down here, you saw heavy, heavy strikes. and there was something significant in the last 24 hours, and that is the strikes on the airport and in the area was conducted -- i'm going to go to blue for that color -- by a russian hypersonic missile strike.
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that is very concerning because that's the first time russia has said they've done it. now, it's a kinzhal missile that was fired. that is the russian word for dagger. russia hasn't used it in ukraine great yet. they first used it in 2016 in syria. it's devastating in its range, it travels ten times the speed of sound, and now we're seeing that being employed right now. but if we just go back to that big map, one final thought, and that is some are saying, military experts are saying they're concerned that as russian forces close in on kyiv and you start drawing all the way down here to kharkiv, the second largest city, where they're fiercely fighting, all the way to donbas, the sea of asor -- azoff, you see something happening which looks like an entire encroachment of the western russian border into the eastern side of ukraine. question now that no one can answer is how far does he intend to go. only time will tell.
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neil? neil: you know, griff, it's interesting too because we're just learning about there's a hope in ukraine that these ten humanitarian corridors that have been set up and are allowing ukrainians to safely leave the country, for aid to come in, then along comes russia to step up its threats to target arms shipments to ukraine. so russia a will make the argument a, ostensibly, that in this has nothing to do with humanitarian aid, we hi that's military aid, and we're going to attack. so that's got to add to the angst here. >> reporter: it sure does, in a major way. and if i go to just the second map out west, you see, obviously, just 43 miles between lviv and poland, but we know, very much so, that the major access of aid coming in and refugees going out is through poland. and that is why when you're seeing those strikes on airfields in the north and south of lviv and, of course, the international airport being hit, they're hitting in the case of the airport friday morning at dawn they had a air maintenance
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facility near the airport. so putin's clearly trying to hut down not only possibly -- shut down not only possible humanitarian corridors, but also the prospect that nato allies could put more air support in there. that mig question seems to have been answered for now, but it's always going to be on the table as putin escalates this war. neil? neil: amazing. griff, thank you, my friend, very much. griff jenkins, obviously detailing more that as time goes on here. we do want to let you know we're finding out very, very little almost 24 hours after the fact about that call between the president of the united states and his counterpart in china. so the russians are filling the void to say that, actually, russia and china have actually become a stronger bond under the current circumstances, and according to the russian foreign minister, this cooperation is only going to get stronger. why the radio silence certainly out of the united states? more to the point, china.
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neil: all right, i want to show you still more video that's coming if right now. this is showing ukrainian soldiers on patrol in kyiv as the russian attack zone gets narrower and narrower. as you know, that is russian soldiers circling the city in outer neighborhoods, attacking those neighborhoods. but invariably, getting a bit of a stranglehold around the capital. separately, this comes as dozens of ukrainian troops are killed cover night in a missile strike on an army barracks. we know of at least 49 soldiers who were. killed in this particular if
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strike. that's coming via the bbc. but again, the strategy is to just encircle and bomb the hell away, and it's one thing at the russians are sticking to. william taylor, former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, kind enough to join us this saturday. ambassador, very good to have you back. strategy is, you know, as blunt as it is just cruel, take out anyone and everyone along the way. if civilians are caught up in this which, by the way, seems to have more goal than just collateral damage issue, so be it. i just wonder in light of these latest developments, and president zelenskyy calling for one with on one talks with vladimir putin for real material the, you know, agreement on both sides, how is that possible? >> neil, i think you're right, it's hard to imagine a real negotiation while this
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withdrewalty, this terror -- brutality, this terrorism, this savagery is taking place. and you're right about being a new strategy. i mean, the first advantage that russians thought they would be able to succeed in was a quick strike in kharkiv. and here we are, what, 24 days in, kyiv has not -- they've taken one major city, kherson, and they've been stymied, they've been stalled around kyiv. they're gradually moving in, as you say, but they are in for a hell of a fight if they try to go to kyiv. and that fight is not the kind of environment that can host negotiations. so president zelenskyy is right to talk about a conversation with president putin. is not gig any indication he's ready to negotiate. he's been giving no indication that he is ready to sit down and stop this horrible carnage that
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he's causing. neil, it's worth saying, it's worth reminding that this is an unprovoked attack. there is no justification for the russian invasion of ukraine. so the defense that the ukrainian military's putting up is he rowic. president zelenskyy is a world leader now. he's certainly leading his mission and leading the wen world in this -- western world in this, and he is suggesting he's demanding these negotiations, but that's going to require president putin to call off the siege, to call off the attacks, to call off the barbarity that is going on in ukraine with right now. neil: but he's not, right, ambassador? he had this big rally in a moscow stadium. it was packed. you know, he was referring to the fact that this is a good cause, join me in the good cause. the remarks he made and the fact that he clung to the idea this is a mission for all of russia, does he still enjoy that support
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at home? i mean, obviously, russians -- what little they're exposed to -- is one thing. but they're very much exposed to the economic fallout of this. they're very much exposed to limits on how much cash they can take out of congresses -- of banks, if they can take any at all. they're very exposed to empty store shelves, very, very exposed to one business after another that has left from mcdonald's to starbucks, you name it. so they can see that happening. how's that going? >> it's going poorly for the russian people. it's sad that the russian people have to pay for the sins, for the error, for the blunder of their leader, of president putin. the other thing, neil, to add to your list of why the russians are getting it, are understanding it, are feeling it is there are probably 7,000, as many as 14,000 russian soldiers who have been killed in ukraine, some of whom didn't even know where they were.
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they're coming home toville anings and towns and cities across russia for burial, and that is also adding to the real pain, real price that the russian people are paying. so you've got to believe that this is something that the russian people will not stand for for very long. it is something that they have been, have been brainwashed, essentially. they have been told -- neil: you're right about that, ambassador. because the context of what he said in the stadium was one thing, but to me, the most chilling remarks of the week had to be the warning, the clear warning he had for those who turn on him, you know? a little bit into this, a little bit familiar, some stay stalin-esque, this was vladimir putin talking about those who challenge him. take a look. all right. i apologize for that. this is where he made the reference about gnats and they have to cleanse, and these are
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the kind of terms, ambassador, that scare the hell out of people and make you wonder the sanctions and all this other punishment are only creating more of this reaction, a crazy reaction. >> neil, you're absolutely right. it's both stalin-esque and hitler-esque. this cleansing notion is, as you say, chilling. and it is chilling for the russians. the russians are also now already, since that speech, feeling this crackdown, feeling this oppression. and, neil, there are a lot of russians leaving are russia. in particular young, smart, educated, capable russians, they're leaving. they know the problem, they see what's coming. they've seen it before. and when putin declares war on them, he says they are traitors, they are fifth column, they are opposing him, they got the message. they're leaving. neil: lull.. -- absolutely. ambassador, thank you very much.
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from this suffering, from this genocide that is the main reason for the motive and goal of the military operation that we launched in the donbas and ukraine. neil: all right. genocide that many argue vladimir putin is inflicting on ukraine, he turns it around speaking to a packed crowd at a moscow stadium saying it is to address what's happening in ukraine and how ukrainians in the west helping them have created this general side, and he is there to -- genocide, and he is there to stop it. a russian protesters who was arrested doing just that, letting the world know what was really going on. she's still in russia right now. irina, good to have you. now, you were arrested, right? what happened? enter yes. i went to the central square in moscow yesterday. i standed with a poster for 15
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seconds, and i got arrested. i have no trial yet, but i will get a fine of $500, i think. neil: so, irina, when you were arrested, what did they say? >> they tried to ask me if i'm an american spy, if anyone paid me for doing that. i absolutely said, no. also they took away my phone and my personal diary. i don't know whyment -- why. and they had me in police station for four hours not letting me to call a lawyer or do anything. but then they let me out. neil: you know, so few seem to be let out, arina. you were. we do know this woman who also
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lifted a similar poster to yours behind a news reader was also quickly taken away, arrested but later released. these are unusual, aren't they, for protesters like you to be released at all, respect they? -- aren't they? >> yeah. people are being released. a lot of people are still in jail right now. they have been there for three weeks. but i don't know, there is -- there are if people -- most of them are still in jail. medical school neil i'm just curious, you're still this moscow, you're talking to me now. are you worried? are you worried that they're monitoring you or following you? >> yes, i'm still in moscow, and i decided to stay in russia because i'm not afraid of police, i'm not afraid of
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government, i am not even afraid of putin. they have no control over me. i just know what i do and that it's right, and other activists are staying in russia for the same reason. neil: so, arima, you know how president putin feels about those who don't agree with him or those, certainly, who protest what he's doing in ukraine, but he removed all doubt on that earlier this week talking about, well, i think people like you. this is from vladimir putin. >> translator: but any people and even her so the russian people, will always be able to distinguish true patriots from traitors and simply spit them out like a fly. i am convinced that such a natural and necessary cleansing of society will only strengthen our country. neil: i think he was calling you scum and a traitor. >> yeah.
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he hates opposition. he wants people to love him, to respect him. but it doesn't work that way. he can't force people to love him, and he can put us in prison, he can kill us, but we're still going to fight with him, with his regime, with police aggression. we're still going to do that for future, for our country's future. neil: arina, we're toll that maybe -- we're told that maybe older russians, maybe your parents or aunts and uncles don't feel the same way as you do or younger people do. is that true? that they support what putin is doing? >> that's true. but other people, i don't blame them, they don't a really know how to use internet or don't have access to it.
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so they only watch tv, and they believe in propaganda, they believe this in what they hear. but we are, as the younger generation, we're trying to talk to our parents. my family at first supported the war too, but i talked to them, we discussed the situation, and they were able to hear me, and now they also to not support it. i think that later when our economic is going to be ruined, they stop supporting it. neil: arina, were hay worried about you coming on and talking to us today? >> my family? neil: yeah. >> yeah. my family are really terrified. [laughter] they want me to stop. they don't want me to make any public statements. but i think it will be just not
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honest. i want to stay honest to myself and do my best as long as i can. neil: arina, you're an incredible young woman. please be safe. my best to your family, and thank you for letting us in in this world. so few outside russia know. a russian protester who has no qualms letting the world know what's going on with this offensive. we'll have more after this. s vae and take out up to $60,000 or more. give them a call. veteran homeowners. you made a smart move when you bought your home. now make another one and turn your equity into cash with your va home loan benefit. the newday 100 va loan lets you borrow 100% of your home's value.
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neil: all right, three more russian cosmonauts are now on the international space station. what caught people's attention is what they were wearing when they were dock up to join their colleagues, three of whom are due back in another week or so including that american astronaut. look at those colors, they are the colors that seem to mimic
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the ukrainian national flag, and it raised some eyebrows particularly back in russia, what the heck are you guys doing. one of the cosmonauts said it had something to do with the fact that yellow was the predominant color they had in the closet, the others saying all three are graduates of the positive cow technical state university -- moscow. it certainly got noticed around the world, some saying it was not a coincidence. by the way, the american astronaut who's onboard due back on the 30th of this month, there was a kerfuffle, you might recall, on whether the russians would fly him back home. apparently, the other two cosmonauts insisted he should fly back home. cooler heads prevailed, he will go back with those other two cosmonauts. but the latest new additions to the international space station and their yellow space suits have gotten much more talk than anything else today. so we'll keep an eye on that.
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also keeping an eye on what's going back on the planet they'll be looking at through their iss windows and particularly what's going on outside ukraine with now better than 3.3 million refugees just looking to get out as fast as they can. poland are's been a big taker of a lot of these, but also hungary. that's where you'll find alex ohio began right now. alex hogan. >> reporter: hi, neil. these train tracks are the first steps out of ukrainian soil for people who are arriving here in hungary. the trains coming from ukraine are coming from -- but that's typically not where most of these will have few gees -- refugees journey. one woman drove for seven days straight because of how bad traffic was. they tried to find hotels but they were closed or fully booked. they managed to find some says in hostel, and at one point they gathered with other families who
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were also fleeing, and they slept in a kindergarten. >> it was soup for children, yes, and was little bed for children and cold water. but it was room there. safe. it was safe. >> reporter: her husband stayed behind because he cannot flee the country, but he's not a fighter. he works in i.t., and he has no idea how to fight. she says she doesn't know when she'll see him again, so these were some of her last words to him. >> be safe. some place be safe. children love, love him. >> reporter: more than 3.2 million refugees have fled ukraine. the vast majority escaping to poland followed by romania, moldova, hungary and then slovakia. and we're hearing more and more
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of these heartbreaking stories of people fleeing their country, and there is a lot of fear and a lot of skepticism for people who arrive and tell me they're not even calling their lovedded ones to tell them where they are out of fear of hacking. is so they're using code names for the locations where they've arrived. now, in our time along the border from poland to slovakia and now here in hungary, the situation is vastly different, neil. what we were seeing in poland are, the large amount of numbers, things were very organized in slovakia, and we're not seeing that organization just as much here in hungary. neil: alec, thank you very much. -- alex. the reports have been riveting, alex. and by the way, it's not only the ukrainians and neighboring countries coming to the aid of eve other to help deal with this mass go discuss -- mass discuss,s -- mass exodus, we're going to speak with a navy veteran who was all done, but went to ukraine because he's on a mission to help them out, and
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neil: you heard a lot about ukrainians wore returning to ukraine to help fight the good fight here, but what about a u.s. combat veteran who, all think, would be done and tired of all his battles to do the same thing, go back to ukraine, help with rescue missions? it's really a remarkable story: brian stern is a remarkable young man. project dynamo co-founder, kind enough to join us right now out of ukraine. how are things looking there, brian? >> things on the ground are complicated, to the say the least. every day is an adventure here, that is -- it is an active war zone. there's lots of fighting, there's lots of destruction, and
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people are very care -- scared. neil: all right. you're trying to get people out, you know, and you've heard, obviously, about the humanitarian corridors that have been set up, i think there were ten of them, brian. but the ukrainians say that the russians don't honor them, that often times they attack those corridors. have you seen any if evidence of that? >> i can't say that i have, but we also avoid, you know, we avoid those humanitarian corridors for exactly that reason. i'm not prepared to assume risk for any of our evacuees based on an agreement that may or may not be honored by -- [inaudible] neil: the ones you take out or are trying to take out of the country, what condition are they? ? -- they in? where are they? i don't want you to compromise security, but what can you tell us? >> we, when project dynamo meets an evacuee, it's, generally
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speaking, in the worst -- of their lives pretty much. we've evacuated people where their entire livelihood is whittled down to a shopping bag in some cases. so their condition ranges, but generally speaking it ranges from terrible tonight mare. to nightmare. a lot of these people have been shot at, there's a lot of atrocity going on, and if we can help them on their next steps in their journey, to the next steps in life, that's wind kind of what we're here for. neil: you're doing the lord's work, and you're very modest about it. brian stern, project dynamo, the co-founder. just to put it in perspective, brian and his team have conducted at least 16, 16 rescue missions, and that has helped nearly 200 people flee the country who would never have been able to do so without his help. that's just sort of like a small element of the incredible bravery and the extra effort that is being made to help a
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the world. being the leader of the world needs to be the leader of this. >> ronald raegan once said tear down this wall. i want to tell you now, tear down this wall. give jeremy the leadership you deserve and make future generations proud. help us, help each ukrainian. stop the war. help us stop it. >> he's rocked the world without stepping foot out of his country. ukrainian president zelenskyy speaking to parliaments in canada, germany, joint session, even though not a joint session of congress and continuing that for next week with an address
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the japanese, there parliament if you well. the message is the same, keep the help coming, i need more help. particularly airpower, that's the particular concern of his right now accentuated by what's happening with the ongoing airstrikes of russian wave after wave. let's go to mike tobin in lviv ukraine and how things are looking fair. >> the russian army hasn't had the ability to overrun any of these ukrainian towns as i thought they might. what they are doing is pounding them from the air with rockets and artillery, damage to structures and civilian casualties. one of the first count they came to was kharkiv because it's next to the russian border, eastern part of the country. the video we are showing you is the university, ukrainians mounted fierce resistance and russians responded like they have in all of these towns by bombarding it. estimates civilian deaths at 450 but one thing we know is the
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mark in kharkiv is overrun. mariupol has been battered, as bad or worse as any town, surrounded for nearly two weeks, 80% of the housing is destroyed as estimated by the mayor but the theater used as the bomb shelter was hit. some people got out of the basement but it's feared more people are trapped and rescuers can't get in to get them out right now. there is now evidence of russian forces have him inside of mariupol. if mariupol falls, it's a key big city and gives russia control of the coast. the tenth humanitarian quarter horse are supposed to open for mariupol to kyiv, people who escaped said cease-fire supposed to accompany these aren't holding but the people are so desperate to get out, they make a run for anyway and run with gunfire, artillery and escape for their lives. one more note, fox news confirmed a military barracks in the town has been it, ukrainian
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military it by russian fire, reports as many as 45 soldiers are dead. neil, back to you. neil: thank you very much. mike tobin in lviv. in the meantime with the attention on the ukrainian president zelenskyy and how he seems to get one major body across the globe, there's desperation to vladimir putin's address in moscow but it's the desperation in his language that scares one prominent general. >> i think it shows that he's concerned that he's not making the advances he needs to, desperate people do desperate things so it is getting i think much more brutal, maybe he thought it would have to be so trying to rewrite history. neil: all right, from general
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david, the former chief of staff for the u.s. air force. general, an interesting take on this that, a desperate leader whose war is not going as he planned and hoped and speaks for his general killed in battle, willing to do almost anything and that's what we should worry about. >> i certainly agree with dave perkins. this is an example of him being the master of not only disinformation but psychological operations so he's trying to control the narrative which is typical for him because russian forces are bogged down in ukraine it's a very difficult situation, not only for what's happening in ukraine but being able to control it back home in russia so he's trying in the stadium with what i call
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psychological operation, i understand they were paid $5 a ticket but dave perkins is right, desperate in controlling the narrative but also desperate in trying to control the field in ukraine. neil: general, russians already stepped up to target arms into ukraine it got me thinking about the quarter horse work ukrainians as well as eighth to comment it it's military coming in, what you make of that? >> first off, russian military are leading this invasion from no longer a military, is a force of terror and he uses a number of pretext to raise the level of tear and atrocities against civilian targets. i believe what he would do is use the pretext going after
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supply lines as well as put harm's way the refugees trying to flee the country and tear so just another medieval tactic out of his playbook. neil: general, we don't know what came of this back-and-forth with president biden and xi jinping of china, it's interesting of itself but russians foreign minister essay, i am paraphrasing here, we can still count on china support and support for this great cause, what effect does not materialize next what if you and others analyze here the chinese are kind of embarrassed by the difficulty that putin is having and wants nothing to do with it but then what? >> first off, putin has an
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international price, he's back himself into the corner on the geopolitical stage, i firmly believe the chinese are weary of that because they've got their own interest, both economical and financial and national security interest and so forth, this discussion the two states of had had, i believe there was back-and-forth, i think we will see more discussions with the chinese and certainly a topic of discussion, president biden will be attending on the 24th, next thursday but the message to china again is stay out of the conflict, stay out of any and all supporting biden or at best trying to at least stay on the sidelines and i think that would be true of potential allies out there that putin may want to try to light up. india, south africa and so
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forth. china in its own best interests would want to stay on the sideline, that advice from not only the united states but also nato. neil: general, thank you very much, general richard newton on the developments. there's no way we can validate some of the language out of russia using hypersonic missiles, the missiles are capable to go at the speed of sound. they have such technology debatable as to whether they used in ukraine. in the meantime, you remember alayna, elected by the world, she's become the most downloaded individual talking about what's happening in ukraine, ukrainians speaking out from a kyiv bomb shelter. i see your beautiful baby there,
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how are you and the kids holding up? >> hi, we are fine for now. there's an area inside the room, right now we are physically fine. neil: so how does a day go for you? how do you handle the kids? a lot of people want to know this. >> we are really fine, we are in kyiv, we have water, electricity, heat, kyiv is under ukrainian authority so we are fine but it's terrifying what's happening right now and we are worried something similar or even worse may happen here in kyiv because what's happening in
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mariupol is something you cannot imagine before -- i'm sorry. concerns about what's going to happen in kyiv. neil: york are right, vladimir putin has increased frequency in these attacks and he does seem to be targeting civilians, how do you deal with that? every time you hear a siren or noise or booming sound, how do you deal with that? >> we are not surprised anymore. even of the first day, i was telling you about it, a genocide, ukrainians will not -- will resist anyway and he will
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just try to kill as many people as possible because otherwise he will not control us ukrainians. neil: you talked about -- go ahead. >> no, . neil: a lot of people are wondering about peace offerings or the language vladimir putin is using that he thinks can construct a dialogue, i don't know if that's any different than what we've heard before, i know he's broken a lot of promises on humanitarian support no less but what do you think he wants and what are the limits in your eyes to what he should get? >> he's full of it, invasion before the war that ukrainians argued nation ukrainians, it
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belongs to him, he is confused a little bit. he is really sure that ukraine is a country, ukrainian people, if you call yourself ukrainian, that means you are not here so you should be eliminated so he clearly stated this before the war. he will try to kill as many people as possible, those who will be last week in prison, his own people into presence and he goes to the streets and says no more. imagine what's going to happen to ukrainians. and what's going to happen to me, my husband and it clear what he wants to do he will not do
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this together with you guys and the others, we are humans, the free world and atrocities, we shouldn't have this but he's a criminal. before it was just me and children and confess he's a criminal, he's a terrorist and's needs to be stopped by force because force is the only way he understands. he's already forced many people and civilians and you see what happens, they are coming, they are targeted, they have killed their children and they are losing their lives, it's just
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all right, this is a new video coming in from ukraine, president zelenskyy to those who continue to fight the good fight in ukraine, they were expecting the medical what they weren't expecting the president of the country to give it to them, this is from 24 hours after president zelenskyy visited a hospital where a number of wounded and attacked had a chance to see them and what they are going through and tell them he cares
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for them. this is the same global stage presence he's dry, the parliament and most powerful legislative bodies on the planet visiting average ukrainians dealing with this date and day out, i am here physically with you, remarkable. we are following other development including white acids and bulgaria looked right now, bulgaria concern this is creeping into their neighborhood, provocation on both sides some bulgarians, not all, will mean more in this country as well, a delicate balance, the united states say nothing of office, rich is falling these developments, he joins us now good morning, lloyd
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austin is the latest of many american officials to travel to europe to coordinate on contrary russia's invasion, protesters met austin this morning as he arrived in the bulgarian defense ministry, united states encouraged bulgaria, a nato country to spend sent military assistance to ukraine. >> we've not discussed that all. all the fake news we are seeing and have heard until now, i can overthrow fist, we are working together to reinforce the eastern flank of nato. >> secretary austin that with officials in slovakia and brussels to discuss both drink the eastern portion of the nato alliance. he says russia's invasion and targeting civilians push
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democracies to act. >> russia's invasion has taken a terrible toll on ukrainian lives including far too many innocent civilians yet russia's aggression galvanized ukrainian people, nato and the free world. >> austin returning to washington from biden expected to travel to europe next week. neil: rich@, thank you very much. meanwhile, what china says and does, saying very little but doing a lot of unsettling things. the difference, after this.
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it is the you a on the wrong history. that doesn't sound like a country dialing things back either support of what the russians are doing, i don't know about military support but certainly the u.s. maybe nato countries want. >> i saw chinese support for russia, i'm afraid i think twice why china was doing that, that wasn't in mind with the side of sovereignty and yet condones and possibly its illegal actions. neil: all right, that was a strong warning for the united states as you could get, president biden's warning in their back-and-forth they had yesterday. details coming up of that conversation but the message to others when it comes to china,
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they go terribly militarily, bestseller alliance of people, and expert getting together, colonel, it seems that the chinese are deliberately poised, economic help is another matter but you think they hold off on military? >> neil, for a long time, chinese and russians have been collaborating not only in exchanging of technology on military hardware but also exercises what we see in the air and on the ground, nothing of surprise here. i don't think president alex villanueva xi jinping at this time is going to do over actionn the west that he should be sanctioned. the reason is behind the veil. what's going on of course xi
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jinping faces the opportunity of a third term making him this type of person in the chinese communist party but the long nights are behind him and they are threatening if he doesn't keep the economy growing, the economy is not failing which is no problem and he won't get that third term so it's pretty clear from those behind the scenes in the communist party in china, they will pull the plug on him so he needs to be careful, he will not cozy up any more than he already has with vladimir putin. keep in mind on the fourth of february they signed a joint communications, 5400 words that laid out nothing is barred from their relationship so we are and what i call this. neil: having said all of that and the difficulties vladimir
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putin seems to have an ukraine, could it be possible xi jinping is embarrassed and the association with putin is looking like he's in bed with someone horrific and doesn't want to be associated with that? would he dial back on that level alone? >> i don't think he's embarrassed by an authoritarian, he doesn't like the publicity, the trade engagements around the world being hurt but when they get together, away from the spotlight, they are likely getting along famously. kgb, they get along. we need to recognize on the left they don't think like us. much more, very similar to the cold war facing vladimir putin
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across no man's land which was guarded and people were shot routinely. we need to recognize who we are dealing with here. neil: colonel, you've got to watch the actions more than words and in a mere hours before he was to get on the phone with president biden, a chinese warship was off the coast of taiwan. are they signaling something, do they dare entertain any action, aggressive action against taiwan in the middle of all of this? >> well, perhaps not in the middle of all of this. i grew up with fox news, i heard in november this is what is happening with ukraine but the reality is with xi jinping, you need to go back in history, xi jinping said 100 anniversary this past june of the prc people's republic of, he
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resonates with the dynasty, the last one that ended in 1912. also what they did something you need to pay close attention to. the teams dynasty expanded the borders of then china and was very aggressive of their neighbors. president xi jinping has every intention in every statement he makes to bring taiwan either to heal, bow or backing, he will now not allow them in. if they do that next year or this year, i don't know but his own longevity and office, president xi jinping, it's very clear in his own writing and speeches in his own propaganda the man has every intention of doing to taiwan what putin is doing to ukraine. neil: thank you, i think.
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hauling off the developers, we are wrapping up here with the colonel. the chinese might be fine searching around that neighborhood but it doesn't appreciate are doing, just letting you know here the move on the part of the u.s. has wrapped onto themselves for taiwan but it's not treated favorably by the chinese on what happened on the 17th, was very dangerous and pointed out that taiwan is the most sensitive and important issue in relations with the u.s. washington has no form of the relations but taiwan is the most important international factor and arms supplier. president xi jinping told u.s. counterparts joe biden on friday about the issue and it has to be handled properly to avoid any impact on the u.s. relations.
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page so we can just get an assessment of what he's doing and seeing, that the city is ready god for bid for a direct soldier on soldier attack. a lot has been limited to air strength and the rest has gone closer so they are saying they are ready for anything and everything as the country prepares for the unthinkable. it's been almost a month now of the unthinkable. ukrainians are putting up a hell of a fight and nowhere near success with russian soldiers they thought they would have. the exodus from the country continues, 3.3 million, right now hungary seems to be the latest focal. alex is there right now. >> hi, neil. most are heading to poland but we are seeing others go to
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slovakia, romania and here in hungary where we are, we are seeing trains arrive from ukraine, every couple of hours they are bringing people in and immediately other trains taking them to larger cities where there are resources to deal with the numbers, small towns, they simply cannot handle. one woman who arrived today set sofia, keeps thinking back to when the russians first invaded her country and how much her life has changed since. >> my husband said our stuff, people have no shelter. >> volunteers have come in from neighboring cities and countries to cook for refugees especially after hearing heartbreaking stories of those who left everything and everyone they had behind.
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>> tradition hungary soup that consists of vegetables, lots of onions of course and beef and pork meat but we are also cooking vegetarian dish. >> that is the main thing we see on the border of hungary and slovakia, goulash and soup, food is one thing volunteers can give to these people as something tangible but of course they've lost so much and there is so much heartache in this world but the volunteers are trying to make it at least slightly better doing what they can. hungary has supplied more cards to the border expecting even more waves of refugees in the coming days, continuing to seek more bombing and more and more people without power, at least 960,000 people in ukraine currently do not have electricity.
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neil. neil: alex, thank you for that. this american company, global companies from russia, the latest news say all operations right now and russia, this continues the scene that they're isolating russia financially bringing vladimir putin to his knees if anything, he's got more brutal to put it mildly. dan is following these developments, dan, we had a russian protester earlier today warning us from russia, got arrested and bit by bit russians are hearing of what's going on and they don't like it. all the russian are also feeling it even though they might not be supporting of younger russians
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and condemning what's going on in ukraine but in developments, bear pulling out and feeling the economic pain. i'm wondering if that changes things. >> let's hope it does. vladimir putin is not backing off yet. this is a good sign, there are 400 multinational companies right now which have pulled out either operations in russia or doing business with russia and we like that. americans are not for boots on the ground in ukraine. to the extent we can use our economic power to try to discourage vladimir putin and ultimately get him to pull out a bear, that is a great way to approach this but i have to say, it's not as easy as you think to just say hey, let's get all of our businesses out of there. why? some businesses literally can't
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leave because they have a franchise structure. those businesses may be operated by russians. the other thing is, some companies don't want to inflict pain on the russian people. a company like pepsi, they are going to continue to provide necessities to the russian people, maybe not soda but other things because it's a humanitarian effort. finally, vladimir putin is taking over these businesses pulling up. a company like the coke industry, they are keeping their fauci's and manufacturing running because they are saying it's better we do it than pull out and russia takes it over. neil: dan, i want to break away for development right now in poland, a delegation, bipartisan delegation, ten senators led by
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joni ernst of iowa addressing reporters right now in poland, this is what's happening just next door. >> it is incredible we continue on with fact communitarian support in the united states congress approved a package, $14 billion in the last week which is part humanitarian aid, we know it's getting difficult to deliver into eastern ukraine. we know the infrastructure has been damaged but we will continue to work with nongovernmental organizations and others on the delivery of those supplies but we need to find new ways of getting much needed material into ukraine as quickly as possible. we have other questions? >> try to help vladimir putin in
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ukraine right now -- >> it's a consensus right here today that yes president putin needs to be held accountable. it's a truly weak man who targets children, elderly, women, putin is a weak leader. he may be trying to protect strength but he's a weak man going after week individuals. we need to hold him accountable for the crimes he's committing in ukraine. like i said, this is important, it's an illegal war and he needs to be held accountable. >> you think this will continue to escalate, russia is now targeting cities like lviv because of the increase in military aid, this particular city and ukraine, do you think it will just keep going up? >> that's exactly why we need to provide the ukrainians with military equipment they have requested. they have the absolute will to
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fight and they are fighting well. the only thing inhibiting them is additional material that will come in to provide for their defense to push the russians back so what we and other partner nations need to do is make sure we are enabling that activity and making sure they have the means to defend themselves and we can't do that. we have to expedite what they are requesting, making sure they have the means to push back for their own free and sovereign country. we will continue to do that. >> i think -- >> i can't speak for the entire delegation, what i will say, i did leave a letter a week and a half ago which encouraged the delivery of mig and i'm hopeful we can send f-15s we are no
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longer using such a great way our nations can work together to ensure ukrainians have absolutely what they need to defend their country. >> any more questions? >> [inaudible question] >> did we see the situation? we were not on the border but we did go to the reception center for the refugees so we were able to see the women and children, the elderly people residing there getting respite before they traveled on to other parts of poland and other nations. it's very difficult to see the images. many of them are weary, they are tired. we heard from a woman today, she wants to go home. she wants to be at home but it's not safe for her to be home with her children. so whatever we can do to make
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sure we are caring for these refugees in ukraine, we want to do that and that's why we passed the humanitarian aid package last week with that aid package. it dire and we understand in these countries, they are truly stressed with the number of refugees coming out of ukraine. so whatever we can do, we want to assist. >> really quickly to follow up, those who look at that, they truly feel every day they can do that next. >> first, let me start by saying we are grateful for the polls, we are so grateful for all they are doing to help ukraine and the people of ukraine. when i would also say is they are a nato partner to us should article five be triggered, the
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united states would be there. you can just look around the country and see the men and women in uniform, they are already from the united states ready to respond should that be triggered. so yes, we as the united states will honor that commitment to nato and our polish friends again, we are so extremely grateful and every partner in this. >> thank you. >> thank you. neil: we've been monitoring this, u.s. senator joni ernst, leaving a bipartisan delegation by democrats and republicans including west virginia, susan collins of maine and chris angela brandt of new york, the independent of maine and jacky rosen in the back, all their on the visit to poland and germany
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to show bipartisan support for nato despite what's going on in ukraine any support needed. the polls and emphasizing working with germany, still more aid is coming and forthcoming this week. the first of the eight leaving right now, 13, $14 billion that will include unusual missiles that have the ability to strike anything they can. the russians that need this military equipment are fair game to be attacked, part of the attack line even along the humanitarian route. we will take a quick break and when we come back, a lot of people are interpreting our own commander-in-chief and whether he's doing everything he can and is he saying everything he
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make no mistake. the current spike in gas prices largely at fault vladimir putin. rescue plan contributed to 0.3% inflation. 0.3% inflation. i'll do everything i can't human mice price hike here at home. neil: a putin, of course a ballots look at this and right to say it's not all on him but to say it's not even remotely on him, the prices we have seen and gas prices since the invasion of
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ukraine, there was something going on beforehand, he can look other factors including the boom out of the pandemic and all of that but there were some areas where he had some share of this. not acknowledging it at all, it does tend to agitate folks, it does go against the grain of leadership here maybe he could learn from his predecessors, a democratic one and a republican one taking blame, sometimes he can be very destructive. >> there's no say, saying they've defeated it often and i wouldn't be surprised if information in regard to all these activities. >> a few months ago i told the american people i did not trade arms for hostages. my heart and intentions still tell me that is true. the facts and the evidence tell me it's not.
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neil: both those presidents could have lamed other people, a few months into his first year in office. ronald raegan acknowledging the obvious, the iran think was a debacle that also he would take responsibly for. it tough but poll ratings tend to go up when presidents acknowledge these and they move on. in the case of ronald raegan, shortly after that speech. is the lesson here in respect to the editor-in-chief, what you think? >> i think the issue is you have to be straight with the american people, i think on some issues he has been a straight shooter's and on other things, inflation was going up before the war, but
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he's also defensive on afghanistan when his polls started to go down. i do think it's always good to say we've got a problem, maybe we didn't see it as clearly as we should have an jay powell, the chair of the federal reserve has acknowledged he was wrong. i think that is a good thing to admit. situations change, we are tackling it but don't be defensive. that does not work and politics. neil: especially when the world indicates powell is missing the inflationary issue. to say obvious, but you agree with it, in the case of president biden, no one is saying all of this is on you. i just look at the numbers and a lot of these inflationary forces were in effect prior to the ukraine situation, you say we were coming out of the economy with the pandemic and anything after that would be a boom that was left prices but his role in
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government spending and supporting that certainly shutting down keystone which would affect future supplies from supply and demand, the perception in the market might just go ahead and acknowledge some of this falls on me but by not saying that at all, it reinforces the notion to say it's an issue americans are fed up on. >> the president in the white house push a narrative that will go back better what improve patient and did not work with the american public and polls show that. that didn't work with joe manchin so they are finding a bill to save money actually does pay for itself but we are getting late in the game so residents argument on inflation have not swayed some within his own party, most notably joe manchin. neil: put down the shuttle.
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thank you very, very much. in the meantime, we are following development on what's happening, paul joins us now with germany newspaper, he's had a chance to talk and follow around present zelenskyy. honored to have you, how are things there now? >> right now in kyiv, it's called but yesterday there was another rocket attack in a civilian area, injured people, one died. at the same time, people try to today we witnessed how people gave away flowers. they want to show there's a war now but we also have to work. our lives have to go on. neil: when you talk to president zelenskyy and he pops up everywhere, today awarding medals to soldiers. today surprised visit to the hospital where people were overwhelmed to see him.
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the same week he addresses, you know, your government, germany and ours and the united states and canada, britain next week, it's going to be japan. he's everywhere. >> he's everywhere and it's amazing to see because he's the one getting chased. he could die every minute, every hour here. i mean, that's what people sought. if you interview him. i was sitting with him on the stairs, you see sandbags all around, special ukrainian forces around him and he smiles, he's going on. he has optimism and at the same time upset with the german government as you can see that. neil: no, i did catch that. what was the reaction afterwards in germany. i know that you're covering things. people were surprised he was as
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blunt as he was. >> i think it was a shame. he had the speech in the german parliament they went on with routine and they just went and to other people in the parliament. that was a shame. why germany is not doing more, why don't we see more systems, what the u.s. is doing and the president talked to congress and he had 1 billion in help to ukraine and in germany still nothing. they are waiting and don't do anything. neil: it is amazing. we got a close-up view on the kind of leader he is and you can see why he gets the notoriety. a couple of things i want to wrap up before we continue our
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coverage on fox here, u.s. oil services firms have suspended russian operations almost 90% of them tightening the group that's been felt on russia to isolate on russia and the whole idea is to bring vladimir putin to his knees and stop him, hasn't happened yet. more companies are saying enough is enough. >> jacqui: ukrainian president volodymyr zelenksyy honoring members of the police, massive resistance against onslaught of russian forces bombarding major cities across the country including kyiv, you are looking at the sunset over the besiege capital city. griff: jacqui, great to be with you, it's 7:00 p.m., 6
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