drive by, we'll laugh. that's as simple as it goes. he time they drive up, there he is, that's where he still sits. they drive by giving the finger. eric: you can watch the episodes on foxnation. [explosions] tammy: russian police isles bearing down on ukraine as civilians and soldiers fight for their lives. hello, i'm tammy bruce along with alicia acuna, joey jones

and charlie hurt. we begin with a fox news alert. russia is ramping up attacks on civilian targets in ukraine, shutting down a major steel plant in the battered port city of mariupol. the theater was being used as a bomb shelter. this is before and after. ukraine says 130 people have been rescued so far but hundreds are believed to be under the rubble. dozen of people are feared to be dead after russia fired several missiles own a ukrainian army barracks where soldiers were training. that's where we find greg palkot tonight. >> tammy, we are well into the fourth week of this war and by all the looks of things, we are into a new serious phase of this

combat. street-to-street combat is reported in the key port city of mariupol. it's been under siege by the russians for weeks. even the ukrainians admit it will probably fall, but they are putting up a heck of a fight. russian missiles hit an army barrack and reports are 5 ukrainian soldiers were killed. it's another town where russian and ukrainians have been going at it tooth and flail. a weapons ammunition depot not far from where we are, it's just as the sign the fighting is on this side of the country as well. we are just 40 miles away from the nato neighbor poland.

zelensky calls urgently for comprehensive peace talks. schertz say they destroyed 1,500 tanks, other vehicles and arms. killed and injured according to one estimate, 10% of the russian invasion force. here is the hitch, there is still 90% of that russian force here. all the experts are looking at the possibility failing to do what they wanted to do quickly, they will hunker down into a siege war that could be deadly and very long. tammy: russian forces are pushing deeper into mariupol. people know that city is important. but if you can expand on what the significance of that city is, is there any sense of the trajectory of this invasion in the weeks and months to come? you said it could be a siege mentality.

but this is an inch by inch approach i don't think it russians expected to be doing. is there a sense this will get much worse much faster? what do you think? >> that's all the intelligence is going to do, sadly. mariupol is a land bridge between russia and the russian occupied territory on the east side of the country and crimea which russia occupies. if they get mariupol they can roll in stuff from russia and push it into the country. that was very important. but what we are looking at right now is the russians digging in. there is new aerial photography showing all around kyiv they are holding on their position, they are dig in, they are ready for the siege, they are trying get closer -- closer to the center to fix their artillery.

analysts are looking at something that might go on not just weeks, but months if russia keeps to its course. it's up to ukraine and the west to hold them off. tammy: greg, thank you very much and be safe there as well. this is a remarkable thing to watch unfold. normally we see black and white video on the history channel of what war looks like. joey, you have been in the arena, in a war theater. you know what can happen in that dynamic. the mariupol theater is getting a lot of news. this is about civilians and destroying civilian cities. sometimes military targets but not always. joey: the idea of targeting civilians is income prehencible for me. -- incomprehensible for me. we saw the taliban doing similar things.

we knew the taliban were bad guys. what we see here -- we can put things into context. they are fighting for mariupol, not odesa. that tells you where they are for the plan they had for where they are. they are outside of -- outside outsideof kyiv, not in kyiv. the only thing that changed in russia's plans is more ukrainians are dead and more buildings have fallen. that not what we want. tammy: we are hearing allegedly of a hypersonic missile being used. we know already a hospital has been hit. we know children and women in labor having died from that. this is certainly not reflecting well on russia.

they must know what's happening to their reputation regardless of what happens during the war. even if their economy. thousand do you see this playing out? is any of this affecting what putin is deciding to do? >> only putin knows that and the people around him. from everything we understand from our reporting. he's holding the cards and people live in fare. hearing greg talk about the intelligence, we are talking about the probability of months. we are talking about additional horrors that we are going to see. how much the world will be able to stomach remains to be seen. but since the beginning the question has been, what is you continue's thinking. we know he doesn't care just from his actions what the world believes, what he is doing. as we have seen he has continued to lie against all evidence. to his own people.

of what exactly is happening in ukraine and his mission there. so tammy it's hard to say. it sounds like we are getting ourselves ready for something even worse. >> i think we have got some time later in the show talking more about putin. in this case, you have got zelensky who is an international hero for standing up for his country. but he's making demands that americans understand are almost go too far like the no-fly zone. do you think that push is going to continue? there is a bipartisan group from congress going to meet with him at least some other leaders, i believe. what do you think we'll end up doing here to help? charlie: i think there is a lot to criticize about america's handling of this administration's handling of this from the beginning. but i think probably the

tempered political approach being very, very careful about walking a fine line between helping rebuff the invasion by russia, by putin, and not prolonging a war that is terrible for ukrainians. i think we heard some talk about efforts to try to broker peace deals that would top the killing. i think all of that is probably very, very -- you never know dealing with a guy like vladimir putin. if there is any sort of weird silver lining out of any of this, it's that i think the world is seeing vladimir see --t of, you know, propaganda going around all over the place. but we do see civilians in ukraine being targeted, and that

reveals vladimir putin's true colors. and he will never live that down. the world will never forget that. alicia: one quick point. either this week the secretary of defense lloyd austin did say a no-fly zone would likely not have the impact we would imagine it would have. there are missiles we know that are coming from inside russia. and that this also gives us an added risk of u.s. troops and nato troops getting ever closer to the battlefield. tammy: this is a matter of whether or not what's being shot is coming from the air versus being artillery that a no-fly zone would be stopping. a sign that putin is panicking about how the war is going. he's claiming he's using

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tammy: a fox news alert. a new intelligence report out of the u.k. shows vladimir putin is frustrated over his results in ukraine. part of that report reading quote the kremlin has so far

failed to achieve its original objective. it has been surprised by the scale and ever osity of ukrainian resistance. questions over putin using more powerful weapons while targeting civilians. they claim they used a hypersonic weapon to target a storage site. putin has made many claims thatted have proved to be false. the military in kyiv confirmed the storage site was december was destroyed.they are not confe method. despite what this missile turns out to be, what is your take on this as you hear this report? >> this missile matters because it can outrun or outtrick any

defense system we have over there that is known in that area or in the world. if they have an arsenal of these missiles and have used them effectively the concern would be there wouldn't be any way to fight against them unless you shot the plane down that is carrying the missiles to begin with. it does render the planes more ineffective. a lot of the bombing are happening from high altitudes be the bombs get there. one thing i will say, really what we are seeing now is a moment of truth or a moment reconciliation where we have to look and say if putin's original executive had worked in three days. there would be more lives. now we are looking at this happening in three months but russia still wins and a lot more

people are dead. there has to be something in between that that our government and the west can help ukraine and russia find. that's why it is heroic for president zelensky to do what he has done. but we shouldn't romanticize it. these are people dying. i don't see a military win for ukraine where the west stays completely out and russia goes the full length it can. that might be different than the conditions on the ground. we try to pontificate as to the nature of the troops in ukraine. there is no way to do that. this is war and it's terrible. alicia: joe brings up a good points. and we did talk about this in the last segment. how much will we be stomaching as we witness even more

suffering. tammy: that's the plan tore putin to have people begin to consider ways worth it. how much more death and destruction. these horrible attacks are meant to say, do you want three more months of this? at the same time there seem to be leaks of what putin might want as an exit ramp. that would be recognizing crimea as russia. and the breakaway republics as russia, no longer disputed. either a standing army but it would be neutral for ukraine, a guarantee never to join nato, et cetera. i think what the west has to work on is to give putin taken offramp so he doesn't feel that his own leadership is going to come and get rid of them in the midst of all this. and we have seen russia, action

in iran on our behalf negotiating the iran deal on our behalf which allows russia to take the remnants of the iranian radioactivity, the uranium, i guess, into russia. so they seem to be getting a good deal. russia does, not us, from the iranian situation. maybe that's part of it. but ultimately i think some of these horrors are meant to generate this exact conversation. it's an appropriate one. and i will leave with this. i like zelensky. he's a great guy. when he continues to ask for a no-fly zone, he knows that would create a broader conflict. and ukraine is not going to be saved by that broader conflict. so that concerns me. alicia: that's a good point, tammy. i want folks to hear about this.

it happened early this morning. russian cosmonauts arrived at the international space station this morning. and they were wearing the colors of the ukrainian flag. according to associated press. they can choose whatever they want to wear. but that's quite a statement, charlie. charlie: it really is, especially in a place like russia where this kind of display of disagreement is frowned upon to put it mildly. but i think everybody is touching on this. the real problem here despite all the propaganda, and it's hard to figure out what's true and what's not true in a war zone. but one thing we can say for sure. this turned out to be a lot more difficult for vladimir putin than he expected. that's why he's reaching for things that either claims or in

reality using things like a hypersonic bomb. the only thing more dangerous than a man madman is a desperate madman. if we end up with a vladimir putin highs cornered dog, we have to proceed cautiously how we disarm this ticking time bomb. >> a big fail for biden's blame game for inflation. even an obama advisor is calling out the claim that putin is causing to us pay more for everything. what that says about the president's support next. age is just a number. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. versus 16 grams in ensure high protein.

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joey: welcome back to the big saturday show *. inflation is at a four-year high and the price of fuel and food is rising. but the question is who should be held accountable. the white house says blame putin. >> make no mistake inflation is largely the fault of putin. i will do everything i can to principle mice putin's price hike -- to minimize putin's price hike at home. >> russia is responsible. joey: not everyone is buying that claim. now a former top obama advisor is correcting him. >> for a few of days he was saying everything is putin price hikes. people don't believe that. they know we had inflation before this.

they know gas prices were high before this. so they haven't dialed this in you can't blame everything in the economy on putin. joey: what a revolutionary statement by david axlerod. you can't speak that much truth and stay in politics. charlie, a lot of this for me circles the drain of oil and gas. when we talk about inflation going beyond energy and putin. i remember them blaming the meat packers for the price of meat. but we have some examples of what they call -- i'm losing the term, shah link-flati -- shrink-flation. you have got gatorade down by 4

ounces and doritos getting smaller. can we blame putin for this? >> no, absolutely not. they now it's a lie. i'm not going to give david axlerod for not lying for once. but it will destroy his credibility to work for any politicians. you have got the biden administration spending all this time trying to pin blame on everybody but themselves instead of getting a grip on the problem. this is a really serious problem. and it's hard to get out of these a situations. and i don't have any faith the biden administration which won't even acknowledge what the cause of the problem is, which is ridiculous government spending, that they are capable of doing anything to fix it. as anybody knows, when you go to

fill up your gas tank you notice the price of gas. the second thing is all of those biden stickers with biden saying, "i did that. nose stickers are telling the truth. joey: energy seems to be what we are focused on in our economy. when they used to say they wanted to attack the oil and gas industry. >> would there be any place for fossil fuels including coal and fracking in a biden admin snraition. >> no, we would work it out and no more -- no more subsidies for any fossil fuel. joey: i understand only 1,500 of the leases could produce oil and gas. it goes back to the small

policies the biden administration has done that has taken capital out of the energy production market. alicia: they are feeling it every single day. and it doesn't matter when you are filling up your gags tank and it used to cost you $50 and now it's costing $60, $70 when they know we have energy capacity in our own backyards and people have been laid off because of this administration. we are still using fossil fuels. just because there was a declaration by this administration doesn't mean its usage went away. we just went shopping for it elsewhere, and the people we are smopg -- we are shopping from, iran and venezuela are not the

best people. for the americans the state of the economy is what they are feeling when they are at the grocery store check outline. when they are small business trying to reorder supplies. that's the state of the economy, what we are experiencing on an individual basis. and as distasteful as this sounds against the backdrop of the ukrainian war, in 8 months there is a mid-term coming up. this is where the democratic party traditionally would feel it. but the expectation from intelligence is this war will go on for months. joey: there is an "axios" article. it talks about taxing oil and gas industry more and using that money for people to spay for gas. they are talk about revoking leases. are they going to get away from

gas lighting us over gas. tammy: axlerod had it. but these problems have dumb solutions. everything the biden administration is doing is dumb. they are throwing money at things making stuff up. it's like the 7-year-old denying he ate all the cookies in the cookie jar. it's a lie. until you admit you have floory, moe and -- you have larry, moe and biden running the country. joey: i think the ideas where pretty side if you ask me. covid mask mandates mad most. one wants to keep makes on kids under 5 years old on indefinitely.

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with affordable coverage. joey: welcome back to the big saturday show. >> i think it's indefinite. people who have tried to predict what's going to happen in the future for you this pan demic have repeatedly found egg on their face, as they say. and i am not going to do that here today. >> lax schools finally announced the end of their mandates starting next week. also the cdc saying it accidentally inflated the you

number of pediatric deaths from covid-19 by 24%. the agency said it was a coding logic error was the reason for the mistake. before we get to the coding logic error which i want to talk about, joey, masking kids indefinitely. >> he talks about how people have been left with egg on their face, what about shame in anybody felt shame for making 4-year-olds and 5-year-olds wear a mask when they are trying to learn. there is a marked difference between being safe and stopping kids from what they are there for in the first place which is learning. you asked me how new york would ever have a republican mayor again, this is at the top of the list and i didn't sight coming. when you start messing with

people's kids and the things they hold dear. charlie: we love to make fun of new york city, but they do vote on potholes. alicia you live in actual america. would masking in the future of children, you know, get by where you live? alicia: no, i don't think so. even as we are talking about this other variant, i am hearing folks around me saying i am not going to do what i did before. it doesn't seem to help us. people are tired of it. they feel like the information they are getting isn't entirely accurate as you just point out from the data we received from the cdc. and people who are not doctors are saying i have got to figure

this out myself. but i'm not going to listen to these officials who are showing more and more that politics is involved in the decision making. charlie: and follow the science. tammy, i love euphemisms, and coding logic error i think is the greatest euphemism of all time. it could apply to whatever the cdc is talking about and it could talk to the rest of us for failing in our logic and going along with it in the first place. are we to blame for having gone along with this nut stuff going on for two years now? >> in the beginning it made sense. we got 6 million people dead around the world. then what mapped is there was a notification americans were respond and doing whatever you told them to do.

fit was just exoo too exciting and wonderful. and they had to weaponize it. the world health organization said do not mask children 5 and under. our own cdc says you don't need to do this, it does not help. but they continue to do it because they can. this is one of the bill clinton excuses. i did it because i could. we all deserve better in new york and los angeles. and we are seeing that in fact what our suspicion was that they were ginning up the numbers to give them more power, more fear. that what americans have woken up to and we are not going to do it again. i think even fauci is saying i can't stay in this job forever. yeah, you can't. maybe you better get out before we force him to get out.

charlie: spoken like a true recovering liberal. the sad thing is that so much of this -- maybe not from the beginning. but as you point out at the beginning it was confusing. i'm not an expert on much of anything. but i'm definitely not an expert on medical stuff. so you were really listening to these people of and trying to trust them. but it wasn't about health when it became about power. >> the 15 days to flatten the curve was reasonable at the start. even fauci saying masks will not be helpful. in the end that ended up being true. in the beginning it was the reasonable ask of us. then it got to be crazy. you rescue a little creature off the side of the road and you think it's a puppy and it's a freaking dragon.

i think americans are tired of all of this. charlie: this is what our finest americans bled and died for. they died for freedoms here and we seem to have forgotten it and taken all of that for granted. still amade. as russia pounds ukraine with bombs, russia is all said hold be a wnba star in jail. an update on when russia says they will release her.

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griner on state charges. they will be held until at least may 19. the state department finally getting stronger with their language with her saying quote we are closely engaged on this case and in frequent contact with brittney griner's legal team. we insist the russian government provide consular access to all u.s. citizens in detention. there has been no diplomatic access to griner. now we are talking about the possibility of a couple of months boulevard anything happens. charlie: this is such a deeply frustrating case. when you look at -- obviously it's not the only misery we see in the world today, but it puts a face on the misery. when you have an administration like the biden administration

that has been so hapless at every turn going back for a year or more and dealing with russia and vladimir putin. you just cringe to think how incompetent they are and how -- it's just so deeply frustrating. i don't want to say too much here, but i don't have a whole lot of faith. i don't trust these people to negotiate firmly with the russians to have a good outcome here. >> it's so worrying. tammy, one other point, this caught my attention. a professor journal civil at syracuse university said it's absurd that this isn't a huge story. she says it's the inverse of the missing white woman syndrome, a reference to the cable news

outlets saying a white woman who goes missing gets more attention. tammy: we have no leverage. no matter how it was that was taken in custody, we don't know if she had drugs or not. we should not presume anything russia says is true. in the meantime what we do know is what is biden going to say in everybody knows if they say something they won't hold up on it. if they do issue a read line, it would be like biden's. they use gas, and nothing happens and russia takes crimea. you have -- you have a die programmatic where you can't take seriously anything he is going to say. there are issues we have to deal

with when it comes to society and justice reform. but we have got to recognize this is a giant problem. unfortunately miss griner is in the middle of it at this point. it's a worldwide story, that's good news. 200 americans are still in afghanistan and we don't even know who they are. the number of americans in ukraine and russia. at least her case is worldly known and we have to be able to deal with it. i'm with charlie, there is nothing we have that can make this go any better. alicia: there is an espn reporter who says this may be on purpose. even her own family isn't saying too much. the wnba has been advised by the state department to keep it on simmer, keep it low.

if she is someone that's that valuable they have more incentive to keep her. joey: we have exhausted all the leverage we have to keep russia from leveling buildings with babies and cancer patients. what more leverage do we have? i want her to come home. this administration, what leverage do they have to get russia to act on this when we can't get them to stop killing people. tammy: back to afghanistan. we abandoned hundreds of people in afghanistan. why russia would think they should do anything about one individual is beyond me. we created this. is is an unforced biden error that we'll see the results of, the ripples of for years to come. alicia: we are thinking of her and hoping for the best.

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welcome back to the big saturday show. time now for big saturday flops. the biggest fails of the week.

my pick is the new york times violently confirming the hundred biden laptop story. this might be the biggest fail of all times but maybe because it's not just this one case, it follows a five-year psychotic episode where the media completely went off real and reported every unconfirmed story they could think of claiming russian collusion between the trump administration we tragically see in full-scale, the furthest from the truth but it will definitely be one in infamy. >> indeed. earlier this week controversial transgender swimmer thomas won the women's national championship in the 500-yard freestyle. most fascinating about the video of her recent wind was a crowd, spectators did not cheer when

thomas hit as the winner and the cheers began when the second person, the woman came in second and third, that's when the cheers began in for americans i think finally, it's one thing to have a theoretical conversation about this but when you saw the individuals on the podium there, you saw the huge different shall i say between thomas and the two women on that stage. joey. >> the commander, andrew cuomo running for governor again basically saying a victim of cancel culture and i don't want to demean or belittle the reason why he was forced to resign, the fact that he was essentially harassing women but let's not forget that killed people in nursing homes and took $5 million off the book while the coronavirus was tearing through

the city, it's well beyond to prosecute him on what sexual harassment charges but if new yorkers let him run for governor again, they backfire in the earlier segment and thus the tragedy of all this, i don't expect accountability anymore but the least they can do is disqualify and be governor for anything again. >> i can't vote in new york so i can definitely say that for sure so okay, cherry creek school district in colorado doing away with valedictorian designations, far from alone but this is a district known for competitiveness and the four of us are probably not the best to talk about it because who doesn't want to strive to be number one? i feel this is a frustrating thing because i don't think there's anything unhealthy about allowing it, not everyone will win but at least be able to try

and i think it started with trophies for everyone and now we have no more valedictorian anymore. >> anyway, that does it for us. 5:00 p.m. eastern for the big sunday show, thanks. fox report with jon scott starts right now. ♪♪ ♪♪ jon: as many as 45 ukrainian soldiers reported that after russian struck ukraine, i am jon scott, this is a special t