president biden prepares to head to europe diplomacy drags on and talks between russia and ukraine. >> eat your wheaties, eat your spinach is going to be long thursday big. >> a high-stakes overseas trips offer the chance to show solidarity with nato allies. nearly a month since the invasion began. and as the president lays out the stakes for beijing, if it back to putin's fight. >> china will bear responsibility for any action it takes to support russia's aggression by. >> as the white house faces increased pressure at home to do

more to help ukraine. >> if it shoots we should ship it. trace: were joined by republican bennett senator ben sasse member of the intelligence committee to discuss america's response to the war. plus, two years since the start of the pandemic, a new wave of covid hit zero. bill asked surgeon general vivek murthy what that means. >> from filling your gas into buying groceries or finding a place to live, inflation is on the rise. will asked the sunday panel whether the fed's actions will provide relief. all right now on fox news sunday. >> hello again from fox news in washington. russian forces are pushing deeper into ukraine attacking cities, but facing continued

resistance. they have not yet claimed full control of a major city, but they have cut off at least one. ukraine's president is repeating his calls to meet with russian president vladimir putin and this week the united nations sent said at least entered 40 million suspension 1400 wounded the real toll is thought to be much higher. in a moment we will speak with a key republican member of the intelligence committee, senator bennett sasse. but we begin this morning with the team fox coverage rate jonathan hunt and lviv which starts first russian strikes this week. beyond the border between ukraine and poland chose the very latest on the humanitarian crisis there. but first, mark meredith at the white house with the very latest on the president's plans to meet with allies in europe, mark a good morning to you. >> this week president biden is expected to strongly reaffirm america's commitment to the nato alliance parties also expected to urge russia to pull back as

the death toll and humanitarian crisis in ukraine really appears to grow worse by the hour. >> president biden will beat world leaders at nato headquarters thursday to strategize over how best to respond to russia's invasion. and it's growing threat to security across eastern europe it. >> let there be no doubt, no uncertainty, no question that america stands with the forces of freedom. >> is the white house spends billions on military assistance ukraine the president is calling out vladimir putin directly. >> i think he is a war criminal. >> the presidents also warning countries not to help russia amid the fallout of unprecedented sanctions. during a call friday of china's president, the u.s. threatened to impose punishments for assisting russia however officials are publicly sent what those consequences may be. >> china has to make a decision for themselves about where they want to stand and how they want the history books to look at them and view their actions.

>> mean time pressures building on the white house to bring surging inflation and rising gas prices under control. gas prices have come down just slightly from their record highs earlier this month tomorrow expect these present outline where the stance when he meets he is right here in d.c. trace: market meredith a party for the white house bared mark thank you for it will turn he's in the ground in western ukrainian the city of lviv, jonathan by. >> trace, on this fourth sunday of the world are getting of the most disturbing reports yet out of mariupol the southern city that has been the scene of some of the most intense fighting of this war. there's a word now that some ukrainian refugees are being prevented from leaving for relative safety in western ukraine. instead being forced to travel east into russia where the phones and documents are being seized and the refugees simply disappear.

this is we get new satellite images from technology showing the destruction of the theater in mariupol under which more than 1000 civilians including children were said to be hiding when it was hit by a russian strike we are told hundreds might still be trapped in the rubble. ukrainian president zelenskyy says it is time for russian president latta mayor putin to meet him and talk. an offer putin seems unlikely to take up, preferring to address 200,000 adoring supporters in a moscow stadium under a banner declaring of ukraine. and having a chillingly echoed stalin this week in calling for the cleansing of russian society. trace: jonathan, we hear a lot about the russian forces moving in the russian forces being stalled what is the status of russian forces now? in the air there still carry on

onslaught on the ground they aren't largely stalled there's pictures of russian forces literally digging into defensive positions rather than offense of one sprayed seemingly preparing for the long haul a strategy of attrition as the uk of defense is called it. but look at this map. if they can take and move forward from southern cities, they could effectively cut off the entire eastern half of the country and a line down from kyiv to the black sea and across to the russian border that would be tough territory against inevitable and insurgent campaign. it would also be a huge and powerful bargaining chip in any future peace talks. trace: the question is do they have the troops to hold that area customer jonathan hunt life force in lviv. let's go live to the ukraine/poland border.

>> trace, good morning to another train just dropped off at refugees ukrainian refugees here at this train station. they are going to come in and be welcomed and greeted and then there will be put on buses and sent to other parts of poland. at the beginning of this war, trace, the un predicted there would be up to 4 million refugees that would fleet ukraine we are about three weeks in now and already we are over 3 million with poland taking the brunt of it. >> they flee, however they can. some by foot, others waiting patiently and a line of cars while those from far away cities grab trains going west women, children, the elderly however they arrive, all share similar stories of destruction, heartbreak. >> it was inhumane. i want to leave ukraine because

i live there all my life but it is impossible now. he is destroying and bombing everything. >> and millions have fled their homes, others are still trying. despite agreeing to establish humanitarian core doors to allow aid workers to bring in supplies and get people out russia continues to strike indiscriminately making the journey for some life-threatening. and making it difficult for aid workers on the ground to do their job. >> there are constant curfews and air raids so a lot of our colleagues are spending time in the bunkers along with the ukrainians themselves. they are finding moments it safety to the distribution that is needed is really important. >> those who do make it across, wind up at shelters like this when housing thousands of families. the shelters so packed refugees sometimes can only stay a day or two before they must move on and find something more permanent.

>> i'm trace i have to toy the mood is really shifting here on the ground in poland as russia strikes inch closer and closer to the polish border. those i've talked to here are extremely worried they might be the next refugee. >> as close as 13 miles, lie first on the polish border with ukraine. thank you for joining us here in washington editor bennett sasse from nebraska member of the senate intelligence committee center it's great to have you. when you weren't listening to president zelenskyy, he spoke for two hours on friday. you were in attendance of the virtual meeting. after words you said the following, saturday lesson. >> zelenskyy needs to win the ukrainian freedom fighters need to wind up or we do not need them to just lose more slowly. we need them to win and to win they need to kill russians and to kill russians they need more weapons. >> always been considerable military aid including going to

put this on the screen, stinger antiaircraft systems javelin anti- armor weapons grenade launchers and guns and ammo, helicopters boats and vehicles tactical gear and medical equipment. as of this week the as is also sending switchblade and drones, short of sending the fighter jets that people have talked about what else would you add to that list to senator? >> we need more javelins we need more stingers we need the switchblade drones to have been there weeks ago. the biggest problem here is the administration has a bunch of lawyers who are treating this as if it's a cya pr crisis instead of a national security crisis that it is. might message to the president is a simple stop listening to all of your advisors who say zelenskyy is a dead man walking. stop listening to those who say ukraine is inevitably going to lose. you should hear the president strategy to help ukraine when we should be on the side of the freedom fighters and we are to slow it almost every step we take. >> when you say it win, did you

mean we should help zelenskyy, help ukraine win at all costs? >> we have a bunch of fighters in ukraine the west has a bunch of fighters in ukraine that is the ukrainians of these 44 million people have been heroic and fighting for values that are universal but associated around the world with american beliefs and freedom. we don't need to have fighter pilots in the air. we do not need to have boots on the ground inside ukraine because ukrainians have the will to fight we need to have the will to rearm them constantly. trace: this week you vote against a massive spending bill including an aid package for ukraine. do you see a mixed message there? you said you are against an all or nothing approach and you think your critics are pink political here but do you see the potential at least for a stand alone aid package that might sail through? >> the administration should've set up an emergency supplemental weeks and weeks and weeks ago for the bill we passed this week was crab it's thousands of patients it comes out in the

middle of the night ukrainian aid a portion of the bonobos was eight tenths of 1% of the bill. we should be focused on the urgent issue which is rearming the ukrainians. that could have been done as a stand-alone bill in ten minutes. >> this week the house voted to end normal trade relations with russia and belarus. it raises tariffs on both countries and obligates the white house to make a push to remove russia from the wto senate majority leader chuck schumer intends to move this through the senate quickly to get the bill to the president's desk. where do you plan, center to vote on this bill? >> yes we should cut russians off from the global economy. i'm a zealous free trader this is not an issue of free trade this is about an illegal, immoral, unjust invasion of ukraine we should be cutting russia off from all international markets for. >> your republican colleague senator mark crapo said he is looking to include the russian oil ban in the legislation. will you have any objections to

the bill for ban is not included in that? >> we should take every extra step we can to cut russia off from global markets more, and more, and more that should include oil we should be moving towards energy independence the buy demonstration should get out of the way of north american energy production. so that europeans do not continue to make so many stupid decisions of tying themselves to putin's energy supply. we should cut off russia from energy supplies but we should be taking every step to ratchet up the pressure. >> want to talk about this later but what do you make of saudi arabia and china? this oil deal? the reason i ask is there is now talk they could use chinese currency for this, right? that is a big deal because u.s. dollar has been benchmarked for oil international all trading oil. and now, saudi arabia unhappy with the united states and kind of inching towards china, your thoughts for. >> the first of all the saudi's and pricing some of their commodity and chinese currency

or signaling that's where they're headed is a big bad thing let's take a bigger step up. the tenure out existenial battle on the globe is between the united states and the western values against the chinese communist party's exported surveillance state oppression of peoples around the globe. a lot of people would say, you're always saying that he be pivoting toward asia we'd be focusing on the long-term technology battle why is the russian invasion of ukraine such a bad deal? why is it such a big deal at this moment? partly because sherman green lit this impatiently to recognize defeating vladimir putin are helping the ukrainians defeat putin is an important shot across the bow just if the west had any will to stand up to putin because president xi wants to seize it taiwan. this these things like trying to displace the dollar which is where the chinese communist party's objectives, we need to keep our eye on this money to dems or the freedom loving people around the world would rather have u.s. leadership in

chinese oppression. >> when you hear the white house say they president and president xi talked for two hours in her the white house say something to the effective list and he been told if he supports russia there will be consequences. not really laying out those consequences which tends to be a pattern. what he think about that? >> we need the demonstration to demonstrate why the globe should be looking to the u.s. and not to the chinese comet's party. the future of the world ten years out is either going to be more free-trade, human rights, global navigation to see with transparent contracts, rule of law, condemnation, genocide like is happened to the uighurs. or it's going to be more of the globe drifting towards chinese come his party leadership are the only reason people would do that third-party nations would do that is not because they prefer chinese communist values to american values but because they are worried america is a week. meaner commander-in-chief to about these conversations with chairman about approximately at this moment in arming the

ukrainians immediately and rapidly. trace: became drifting we drift off ukraine for men appeared former president donald trump handling of his relationship with president zelenskyy could reportedly asking zelenskyy for political help. he also reportedly ordered mike pence to not attend president zelenskyy's inauguration back in 2019. as a former president deserves some criticism for what some say is a poor record on ukraine and russia? >> the former president said he had a perfect phone call, it honestly was not a perfect phone call there was a lot wrong with that. but ultimately the aid did get to ukraine at that point. so think the broader point rather than making this part isn't right versus left as we should recognize three administrations in a row. we have not been urgent enough about telling the american people and the world the truth about who vladimir putin is. vladimir putin is a kind of guy who bombs women and children we should be on the side of zelenskyy and the freedom fighters that is true that by

demonstration that should have been true and the last administration that should have been true, two administrations ago we need to oppose vladimir putin more zealously, more rapidly, more clearly. >> how compelling was president zelenskyy in that address to congress? >> very compelling. obviously zelenskyy himself is not a standalone hero here. he is a symbol of 40 plus million ukrainian freedom fighters this is a horrific thing to see all of the human suffering and on a larger stage. we believe in america it's part of our foundational creed that 7.8 billion people on the globe are created in god's image with dignity, government does not give us our rights our rights come to us from god and government is just a shared tool to secure them. you see that spirit that american, philadelphia 1787 spirit in zelenskyy right now. trace: a mason was the last time congress gave the president a

standing ovation but i want to move out if i can the supreme court nomination hearings for judge braxton jackson josh hawley said this about that's our time judge jackson has a padded leading child pouring offenders off the hook for their appalling crimes both as a judge in a policy maker white house policy overwhelming majority of jackson cases involve crimes the sentences were consistent with or above the government are u.s. probation recommended, where do you stand on this? >> supreme court justices get lifetime tenure. before that happens there needs to be a vigorous, or rigorous vetting of their records. there are things in judge jackson's records that are troubling i'm glad we have a confirmation in starting tomorrow afternoon. tomorrow morning i guess i hope judge jackson will be very forthcoming and transparent the american people on the united

states and advising consent responsibilities need to understand their things in this record that are troubling for. >> i'm just curious do you think there's going to be the acrimony we have seen some of these past nomination processes? not brett kavanaugh that was over-the-top. but it seems to me like a lot of republicans of kinda withheld their opinion in this it doesn't really change the balance of the court is still six -- three she is a liberal your final thoughts. ask the idiotic wsrc version of senate confirmation hearings for the supreme court have been getting stupider and stupider since the 1980s so the stuff they tried to do it to brett kavanaugh's wife and kids were just unconscionably wicked. part of a pattern's been going on for 30 years people i want us to that judge jackson's judicial policy i went own attacks or as a human. what is to be having a debate about her what her judicial philosophy is. it's because you don't confuse yourself of the super legislature we need to know that

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and it is time now for our sunday group fox news white house correspondent jackie hiner, fox news radio guy benson, fox news political analyst juan williams and howard kurtz post of a media buzz. thank you all for coming andre look at this everyone together this is wonderful, till they separate us again. jack ate you first. we talk about this a little bit with senator sassaman of president biden and president xi talked on the phone for two hours made very clear after words that president biden reinforced to president xi that if they russia there will be consequences. but they don't really lay out the consequences which seems to be a pattern what are you hearing? rex they want to have this conversation directly china and i find that to be interesting given the administration is the mere threat of a sanction should be the deterrent we went through this with putin and the russian invasion. if they want to deter china from

working with chani think they would spell are. on the other side is a chinese foreign ministry had a strong reaction after the conversation with the message thank sanctions were not do anyone any good it would hurt so for not hearing in might be imp. >> one present has to europe it hit me this allies over theirs' first trip overseas since the war began. a lot on the agenda. what do you believe in your assessment we need to accomplish over there? what does he need to bring home? >> this is why they are getting together the message of strength. in so far russia is in trouble because of the sanctions jackie was talking about, because of arms to the ukraine prayer because the nato alliance has maintained unity. it across to asia in the face of china as you are discussing with japan, australia, it is

surprising the amount of support and opposition to russia. so now the question becomes a steady, strong hand coming a message coming from this meeting. the world wants to hear how to help ukraine senator sasse was telling about this not to assume somehow ukraine is going to fall but how can we help? what can we do now in terms of added support that will allow them to beat better opposition to the russians without falling into the generals who said a no fly zone. we do not want world war iii no one wants that. nobody is simply standing by while the ukrainians suffered. >> very tough week at fox news. hit very close to home we lost two of our colleagues when there was an attack in kyiv or tidewater cameraman pierre, journalist, both were killed our correspondent benjamin hall was a barely badly wounded in that.

i want to play at secretary of state antony blinken get your response on the other side. >> being a war correspondent is a battle worker. they make sure the world knows what's really happening when armies move in and bombs start falling. >> talk about what you have seen in the past few weeks who has struck you. >> the tragic killing of our courageous journalists and others is really a reminder it's not just a loss for us and the news and business is a reminder of how brutal vladimir putin is in conducting this war. i do not want us to become numb to the fact this is a guy whose forces bomb and art school shooting people in a bread line abducting mayors they are war crimes as president biden set and it's the journalist who risked their lives to bring us the interviews with the refugees, with the victims, the pictures and the videos of civilian casualties it's hard to talk about. i think if putin succeeds and

more journalists understandably withdraw from ukraine that will dim the spotlight on the atrocities that in turn a civilized world against vladimir putin for. >> you talk about the pictures and the images and stuff and nobody brought that back better than zack did. back to political topics inflation everything is up. for the first time in three years interest rates are going to be going up. do the democrats need to rethink their spending priorities here, guy? >> of course they do they always do in my opinion. but especially these days. doesn't seemed like that's what they're interested in though there is cute to pass that a few months ago knowing inflation was growing steadily month after month. they wanted to throw $5 trillion of additional federal spending on top of that. this is a problem for them politically. i understand they got their

little talking points putin's price hike. there is some truth to that to develop over a year end the american people reflected in polling, blame the president and the ruling party significantly for that issue. >> i want to talk about saudi arabia but build it back better are they being rejiggered rebuilt a little bit? >> is deafly on the back burner. think the fact you got progressives in the democratic caucus saying hey some of the priorities we really wanted to move on are going to do something with executive orders there obviously congress holds the purse strings will have to go back to the hilt. it sort of speaks to the frustration within the party that not been able to accomplish the objective that the president laid out very quick to think the flavors got him out on the back burner i think is pretty much dead and biden put too many eggs in that political basket and cannot get it now the midterm messaging is a model. i do think he's doing a solid

job of rallying the western alliance has helped him a little bit. >> there's been a lag and a lot of this a lag on sanctions on russia a lag on whether these weapons is kind of a step behind maybe i'm wrong on this one. there is a time you say look were going to do it going to do it now. sil and c complained for the first two weeks of the war give us those sanctions before this thing started and then they weapons, give them to us quit delaying your thoughts? >> i think we've been pretty good about getting the sanctions in place and the weapons. the thing to me is i don't doubt that russia is hurting right now. and i also have such respect for zelenskyy. literally he is a heroic person at this moment. and he should be asking for everything. but, for the united states we have to make decisions in our own interest in nato's interest will hold the alliance together it's not about chest pounding.

right now even on the domestic front americans and no, gas prices are like $4 a gallon. i would say about a dollar of that is a result of sanctions is a result of the oil supply being limited as a result of what's going on with putin and polls show americans know this we know sacrifices we are making and people agreed that speaking of sacrifices gas prices are going to play a soundbite by gas prices they are down a little bit from last week. but they are up 75 cents from last month it is big you sit every time you drive down the road to see it affects voters mind to see the store prices, our voters and find this whole concept this is all vladimir putin's fault? >> to juan's point there is some truth there is some sacrifice based on what is happening in ukraine that's accurate to a point. but it's not the bigger picture polling we have seen in the last few weeks suggested they ask the

american people do you support the president's policies when it comes to the issue of inflation he is at 70% disapproval. the people can hold thoughts in their mind at the same time, one there's some truth to the putin stuff to this is an issue that goes far beyond that crisis and there is a party in charge of this entire town right now that is been in charge for more than a year end it's only gotten worse. >> panel thank you that's it for the warm up around. we'll see a bit later in the hour for it up next state, cities, schools relax covid restrictions a new sub variant is causing a rebound in europe. we'll bring in the u.s. surgeon general to talk about how this could impact us here in the u.s. t our son had autism, his future became my focus. lavender baths always calmed him. so we turned bath time into a business. ♪ and building it with my son has been my dream job.

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if i can, i want to kick through some of the recent covid developments will put these on the screen. we are talking u.s. cases down at 95% from january. but as of this week the contagious new ba2 as many are calling at the sub variant is responsible for nearly a quarter of u.s. cases where we see surges in europe and we have even seen a few lockdowns in china samoa and elsewhere. do you expect a new wave in this country doctor? >> will trace, we look at what's happening around the world over the last two years we recognize when cases increase in one part of the world, that often leads to increases in other parts of the world. we should be prepared covid has not gone away there may be rises and falls in cases in the months ahead. but here is the key. our goal is to keep people out of the hospital. it's to save their lives and we have more tools to do that than ever before. our focus should be on preparation not on panic and if we get people these tools vaccines, boosters, treatments and we can actually get through

waves that may come and go. but i've got to tell you, the things that concerns me right now is that as much work as of done we've got to continue finding them and supporting them so they are available to people across the country that is why congress moving to provide that funding is so critical for a. >> you make a great point about vaccines and boosters and medicine because given some americans are vaccinated some are not some are boosted some are not. some have had a micron natural immunity some haven't. so it's very fragmented plus we have the therapeutics that you and i were talking about in the break. how should americans assess their own personal risk for covid right now? >> that's a really good question and i can understand sometimes that is hard to do there's so much information that's come out over the last two years. but here's what people need to note number one, we have seen time and time again the people at greatest risk are those in the older age cat or people 65 and out. we also know if you have other illnesses that say uncontrolled diabetes, obesity, cardiac

disease, lung disease those increased risk of bad outcomes for all populations, getting vaccinated and boosted dramatically reduces your likelihood of ending up in the hospital losing her life i'll tell you trace even in this last wave of omicron want to talk to doctors and nurses and hospitals across the country with they continued to say is people we are seeing here who aren't most six are on vaccinated bottom-line and vaccination boosters work in the treatments we now have a greater quantity than ever before, this also helped reduce our risk. you would rather prevent an infection then get it and treated that's why the vaccines and boosters are essential for. >> two years in, doctor murphy, do we have a major comorbidity we can point to as a leading cause, as a danger that people are going to get ready for other waves this is something that needs to be addressed because it puts you at lower odds. >> that we have seen is again older age and illnesses like obesity are the ones that put you at higher risk. and sadly we do have a lot of

people in our country struggling with chronic illnesses like obesity and heart disease that put them at higher risk. and so that means is a population we've got to be even more vigilant by taking steps to prevent covid-19 for those include the vaccines and boosters. we've also found other tools whether they are masks, whether they are testing strategically these can be helpful in limiting the spread of the virus. >> twice this week the white house has been touched by covid as it was trying to turn the page, right? first when vice president president tested positive than on the irish prime minister tested positive turning plans for meeting with the president on st. patrick's day into a virtual event prime minister was seated next to speaker pelosi the night before. you see it right there eight mask list gala. the speaker said she is not worried and is tested almost every day, is it your sense doctor that washington has moved on a bit? >> i don't think we can afford to move on. i do think we can move forward with more confidence that we can

live our lives and not let covid define our lives because we do have in fact better tools that are proven to save our lives and keep us on the hospital per that's really the goal over the last two years covid defined our lives and restricted us in profound ways. but because have better tools have the power to move forward now and it managed virus and do so thoughtfully because we have been able to get her kids back to school over the last year. where the 95% of kids are back in school at the big when i'm indebted to small kids to thankfully are back in school we've got people back to work, people are seeing family and friends again we need to keep doing these things we now have the tools to do so safely break. >> what's amazing to me is right before i left home i was thinking cvs is saying we will give you free covid medication come and ask what will give you free covid medication my question is, everybody's got to be thinking why would i get boosted why am i going to get the vaccine when they are going to give me free covid medication if i do get it. >> i am so glad you raised that because that is something over the years i've talked to

patients about for a variety of illnesses if you can prevent an illness it's always better than getting the illness and treating it later. we know while treatments were work very, very well there are consequences of getting sick some people may have long covid tender brothers may have other complications it may lead to infecting other people who maybe were vulnerable. so yes we have treatments but we don't want people to say oh gosh because of treatment i don't get vaccinated. prevention always better than a cure. that's what's allowing us to move forward into the new phase big cracks when it right from the checkout, ba.2 rba.two? i don't quite know yet i hear a lot of different versions of it what you think question records internally were saying bhu so feel free to use that for. >> ba.2 is coming along as many americans are adjusting to cdc guidance which includes with certain masking restrictions. what do you think the delete jumped the gun and is the cdc talk about potential updates as it bhu potentially spreads?

>> still questioning and public health responses like this you got to make judgment calls and think the cdc took a very thoughtful approaches and cases are starting to come down. went to also focus on hospitalization and death is the most important thing we prevent. so how do we adjust and put a system for that allows americans will make him pull back on certain measures like masking. i think the recommendation they made were quite appropriate. you'll notice also they are responsive which means if the situation changes, if cases increase dramatically or in particular if the hospitalizations increase our hospital capacity also gets reduced because of covid those are circumstances where they have recommended shifts. if you are in the green zone which more than 90% of americans live in an area right now which has a low number of cases of hospitalizations you can go about your life much as before. if you move into the next area of a risk that some people who are at higher risk should take more precautions like wearing masks or people who live around

the should take more precautions when you're in the highest category you want everyone wearing masks and indoor spaces to reduce frederick arcs i hear what you're saying or people needing to be flexible anything is constantly changing on the ground. but as the virus evolves, is the administration worried about the fact that people are just worn out? >> listen this is a very important point you are raising great luck i understand just how tired and exhausted people are the end of two years. this virus is turned our life upside down and ways that many of us never imagined its impact that our kids that has impacted so many of us including myself have lost loved ones because of this virus. people are understandably exhausted. the president certainly understands that something that has come up in our conversations. he was to make sure we are understanding but we are also responding in a way that's guided by public health by science because the bottom line is i think it's going to help people the most is to make sure there is a clear end to this pandemic we can manage it well

they can get on with their lives trade that is the key. the good news is because of their sacrifices people around this country because the great work of scientists and others speak up these tools. we can save lives who saved over lives over the last year. and we will support for. >> very quickly have a lot there's a lot of pushback a lot of people saying this stuff is political and it comes and goes as the politics come and go. when have the cdc director coming out send look we said a faulty science we do and say the science was going to be exact well, we sure thought that two years ago when he said faulty science, everybody wanted to follow the signs in our being told well it was an exact but yet if there were dissenting views on the science you were called out you were called names from a lot of media outlets. >> what we have to do and this is understand number one science evolves. we learn new data that should inform our response that is truth illnesses across the board but what is also really important is that we have the

ability to have respectful thoughtful dialogue with one another paired i worry about the temperature rising in our dialogue about people being shut out in terms of the points of view being heard. but each bill to hear our voices we need to build to when he to recognize it we may have to shift our paths from time to time based on new data it does not mean people were wrong before. it just means that the learn before we go for. >> as everyone is taught we talk about this is now the new covid czar for the administration. it's an excellent communicator as you have said they're somewhat worried that because of the confusing guidance, communication is great but there are other things we need to prioritize overt communication skills. what is your final thought on that? >> we have to continue to work on multiple fronts to get the country to the pandemic we have to communicate well, we have to make sure we are thinking ahead

to creating a better therapeutics, better vaccines in the future even these coronavirus vaccines we've got to continue to make sure we are getting these treatments and vaccines out of it we got to keep working on multiple fronts communication is one of them. the good news is over the last year we have built a number of processes partnerships with community organizations, manufacturers and states and local communities to be able to do these functions well. we are going to keep working on multiple fronts is going to be a key part of that effort here and covid is not quitting we cannot quit you that we've got to keep her eye on the ball pickwick surgeon general it is great to have you on it is an honors or doctor murphy thank you for joining us for. >> thanks so much good to see you today as well for. >> and becky send a panel to pushback from progressives

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the pandemic that's why we need additional funding. >> white house press secretary jen psaki laying out she said are the stakes of congress is not past more covid relief funding. we are back now with the panel. again we can go around the ring jackie, howitt, one and my old friend guy benson her last thought in the gym and new york. [laughter] i thank you for being back on her jacket he at first i just talked to the surgeon general about this, the white house named the dean of brown university the new coronavirus czar buried mandates across the country being dropped is this a reset and do they believe that is an asset? i think it's sort of a natural point in the pandemic to replace jeff you've got omicron waning,

different states and localities are dropping their mask restrictions in schools and public places. you do have the new variant that's posing a threat there has been a different metric added to the cdc measure up when you should mask or not to focus more on hospitalization versus transmission. i think replacing is a talented communicator is smart because they had a lot of criticism that we never heard from doctor lewinsky had missteps and jeff was not as well it's a natural point to replace him a quick there's a stalemate on capitol hill by the request for covid funny because it is supposed to pay for vaccines and treatments et cetera there is some concern it's going to be shifted to pay for consumer debt, things like that. >> i think the white house talking point that we just played is insulting on its face. congress has approved

$6 trillion in a so-called covid relief over the past two years including $2 trillion at the start of this administration but where on earth that all of that money go? >> are claiming that the cutback on free testing that is insane. a lot of that huge a bucket of cash is not been spent yet. much of it has been allocated to things other than covid relief even that was marketed as covid relief. to tell the american people that congress needs to go spend even more money on this front is just preposterous. you flood the market with money there goes inflation, how wait a new wall street journal poll shows the majority of americans do not believe that president biden will run for a second term, but this on the screen there. yes 29% no 52% those are pretty large numbers. he says he intends to run, what does he need to do? does he need to commit emphatically right now or step

aside what are your thoughts customer. >> i don't think joe biden knows what is going to do i'm not surprised by that he will be 82 years old and people understandably have doubts about him serving another four years. lester is a significant decline in his health think is political health would be the key because this political help is not going to think some members of his own party may say let's give him a gold watch get somebody younger and more vigorous especially if donald trump is going be 78 is not running of course you also have confirmation of the divorce between donald trump and mike pence which is the least surprising thing ever that marriage was never going to survive generate six for. >> in fact i want to talk to guy about you than i'll get to you want president trump because how he brought it up says former vp pence will not run he will not be his running mate and if we can put this on screen he says i don't think people would accept it and might we see guy a pence/trump debate in the primary?

>> we might. i think there's a greater chance president trump runs for president again then president biden runs for reelection at this point just in my judgment. the idea that pencil would not be on the ticket again should trump become the nominee is not exactly news. they have had as how he says a very public divorce and pence is making some noises recently that he is willing to more aggressively confront the former president on some issues including generally the sixth grade. >> i think a lot of it is poland you cited is about republicans who are afraid biden will run because he is the one guy that can beat trump, proven that he is the one guy thinking given all the divisions within the republican party that americans would say he is eight moderate. he is not the far left is made a point of that. i think you have to factor that into the polling because he has given no indication is not running for. >> click back and forth the hunter biden the laptop in their times comes out and says hey it is legit after all.

facebook was going to do a fact check never did it. you think nobody has apologized at all for this they were wrong across the media and nobody has said we screwed that up it was not russian disinformation for a. >> i think there is a larger context here which is what was this about? what does it prove? nobody said it wasn't true what said as he can't authenticate it and then you had certain publications that said we have authenticated for. >> the intel analysts said they could not prove it but it sure looked like russian disinformation request could not prove was the key point for organizations. >> it's an absolute embarrassment the weight the media downplayed or minimize the story the "new york times" and now says is under active federal investigation for possible tax violations or lobbying violations by the president's son. they are still not covering it none of the other networks have touched the story doesn't mean

hunter biden is going to be indicted it may or may not have the political follow-up for his father when you look back at the way twitter for example said you cannot even share this information. >> this was in the middle of a heated political campaign intended to damage a white candidate in the aftermath of russian disinformation. i think we were all properly cautioned. and we have to ended their thank you all. we assumed next sunday up next eight final word, stay with us. i brought in ensure max protein, with thirty grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks! (sighs wearily) here i'll take that! (excited yell) woo-hoo! ensure max protein. with thirty grams of protein,

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