will give hope to a major address and keep it on the fox news channel. you will see updates throughout the day. rachel: tomorrow morning 6 am eastern time we are ready to go. will: president biting meeting with president xi tomorrow. rachel: goodbye, everybody. neil: live to warsaw, poland, the president is about to meet in a stadium with ukrainian refugees, no clear indication how many he will meet but this is coming at a time when poland has disproportionately taken in more than half, 4 million refugees who fled ukraine, better than 2.2 million, the polls say money would help and

a little more in terms of administrative resources, to provide poland with $1 billion in upfront aid to handle the huge throng of refugees that descended in the country. everyone is accounted for. most will find a place in a polish home, not a government facility. it is only for processing and they can immediately go to these homes. the polls have been generous with the resources they have. the president there to say more are coming your way. we will explore that at the same time, ukrainian president zelenskyy is urging energy rich countries to call time on letter reboot next blackmail and up the sanctions. a lot going on. glad to have you. a busy two hours. let's begin in warsaw where we find jackie heinrich.

>> reporter: good afternoon from warsaw, good morning in the us. the president is meeting with ukrainian refugees. earlier he met with polish president duda. we have a brief view of his remarks. he expressed the importance of unity in the war russia has inflicted on ukraine, the importance of a unified nato response to the russian aggression which the president has said is the strongest tool against flatterer putin, did not expect nato and its allies to be so aligned. the president speaking with duda said they pledged to take them as the polls jenner - a surge of 2 million. >> we understand that. thousands of people a day trying to get into the united

states but, we are doing that relative by opening our borders to 100,000 people. >> reporter: pledges of unity have not been enough for ukraine, calls for unrestricted 8 urging allies not to be concerned about evicting vladimir putin. it is clear he will not stop at ukraine's border. defense officials believe there's a new strategy on the danbas region. he's frustrated at lack of progress in kyiv and there are major concerns putin will resort to his most dangerous weapons of mass destruction, us and nato expressed heightened fear of chemical, biological, radiological or nuclear attack, sending detection equip at ukraine increasing supplies ukraine is not satisfied with results of the summit so far. the head of the office of the

president saying this yesterday. >> we are very disappointed. we expected some bold decisions. making decisions as if there were no war. >> reporter: ukraine's defense minister and foreign minister met with president biden, secretary austin and secretary blinken, the first meeting where the president sat across from anyone from ukraine since the start of this. the defense minister said he emerged feeling cautiously optimistic and part of the discussion was about ukraine's urgent need for more military aid but with nato allies not having conformed to the idea of a no-fly zone it is unclear beyond promises for weapons what president biden could have

promised despite increased calls for ukraine. neil: thank you. you have heard about a change in russian military plans a month into this, frustration that the strategy is not panning out as the russian president hoped. looking at securing the danbas province, locking it down and taking it from there, might be a quick knee-jerk read of what the strategy might be, but the strategy has not gone to plan. let's get the latest from lviv. what are you seeing, jeff? >> reporter: russian forces might be changing their shift in focus on what they are targeting as some of them are pushed out from the capital city of kyiv. many cities throughout ukraine,

one of those cities we are seeing impacted is mariupol where scores of people remain cut off from the rest of the world, through little water, very little food. when they do try to get out it is extremely dangerous. russian forces are not allowing any humanitarian buses into the city which is forcing people to flee on foot or if they are fortunate enough in a personal vehicle. they are going 140 miles northwest. >> translator: there were many checkpoints, 200 km, we counted 15 checkpoints. there were all sorts of people standing there, young boys who believe they are liberating us. we don't need such liberation. >> reporter: russian forces have surrounded the city and after they bomb the main bridge connecting it to kyiv people find it hard to locate food or

medical supplies but despite these advancements we have heard fewer sirens over the last few days compared to when we first got here. maybe that's a sign that they are giving and as the war remains stalled. neil: thank you very much. the read from poland is you are not only here from ukraine but refugees who come from ukraine to seek safety and shelter. the president will be pounding that as he finishes his 3-day trip to europe. with us is the former polish ambassador to the united states who is kind enough to join us. the message from the president is more help is on the way not only for ukraine but poland. poland warrant a disproportionate amount of the burden of dealing with these

refugees, quite willingly, it does need help. >> correct. is good to be with you here. under strong pressure from the border with thousands daily, refugees from ukraine and the atmosphere here in poland is a little strange because these are individuals, the ngos mostly through the doors with the refugees, we are disappointed with the low level of support and planning on the part of the government so the atmosphere is like not only from ukrainians who are not happy how things are going but

we come movie polish people think we could do more. no doubt poland in this situation needs some support, also the organizations that are specializing in plans and logistics, more than 2 million people coming through poland, the biggest wave since world war ii. neil: how long are those ukrainians allowed to stay? >> they have 6 months. with -- whether you know, the polish parliament, they have the right to social security, medical aid and education for the children.

finally, several days they have been assessed. but particularly as a policy, problems with schools, teachers that might at the beginning it may look like there languages are closed, ukrainians, different languages particularly for children, that we should be responsible, features, educators that have the ability to communicate with them easily and also, to kill the problems, psychological problems with children, many tough moments in the country, witnessing the bombing and killing, they really need the

support. neil: we've heard the need for air support hasn't gone away. nato in general, poland itself is open to providing jets to ukraine, the devil is in the details, to get them in ukraine, where does that stand, ukrainians are saying they cannot win this without that. >> if we talk about arms, supply the ukrainian soldiers with aircraft it shouldn't be a public debate. since the moment somebody is announcing it publicly to all people around, it means the intention even if it is good has failed. these things probably are not

on the table. the mig 29 jets that were supposed to be transferred to ukrainian air forces, logistically and politically not possible anymore but this is what president biden set at the beginning of the meeting with president duda. he mentioned democracy, rule of law, freedom of media is so important to the west but he also said there is a need for coordination, more information between the allied forces. if you are translating this to the situation, if you want to do something for the ukrainians please talk to nato allies

before the media press conference. it doesn't work that way. i would be happy, after the wars over not just now when the situation is more dangerous and this threat directly. will: president zelenskyy made it clear at the donut conference earlier that without more aid and quicker read. the war's outcome will be in doubt. we will follow that. a couple things we are watching as the president wrapped up, there are a few of them. we don't know how many he's meeting with but they opened up a local stadium to house those who want a chance to see the

president or talk to him. no firm numbers are available. a longer curfew has been established in the ukrainian capital at 8:00 pm tonight and last through 8 am monday. curfew is meant to protect those who might be subject to an onslaught of air attacks. that's meant to address the possibility, not meant to alarm the ukrainian people. a little more. ♪♪ up to 100% of your home's value and take out up to $60,000 or more. give them a call. veteran homeowners, newday wants to help you use your va home loan benefit to get more. more cash, more savings, more peace of mind.

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neil: do you believe the use of chemical weapons, your colleagues among nato nations said it is a game changer. a number of senators said it would be a game changer, that the use of chemical weapons on

russia's part would expand this war and bring nato into it. do you agree with that? >> frankly speaking i don't because -- the difference for those people dying now in mariupol from shells and missiles, they are dying from those type of weapons or some other kind of weapons. neil: the slovenian prime minister chatting with me over the dustup over whether -- that is a redline, what about far more heinous attacks on civilians, who clearly have been targeted, hospitals, shopping malls, theaters, that's agree to snuff, that should be redline enough. the ukrainian parliament member, that is the fear, the

russia will start using chemical weapons but they have done untold horrific things to civilians already without chemical weapons. what do you think? >> that is true. they've done horrific things to people, killing civilians but speaking about chemical weapons, weapons of mass destruction, mass killings and i think that should be prevented by saying clearly to vladimir putin using mass destruction weapons will receive an answer by mass destruction weapons from the west, from the world. that is what i hope will be said and signaled to vladimir putin. neil: you have been frustrated by the pace of 8 in your country. you always wanted that air

support but it isn't forthcoming. without it, are you worried? >> i'm worried and concerned. ukrainians are killed by the thousands every day and i want to stop as soon as possible. am i worried we will lose the war? no. we will not lose the war. of this i am quite sure but with the weapons, whether a defense, aircraft, we cannot counterattacked just at some point like we see now, ukraine is already counterattacking but we can make a massive counterattack, liberate our land and stopped latimer put now, not give them a possibility to continue this war for months or years like they could do. a humanitarian crisis, millions

of refugees across the border but still 7 million ukrainians are displaced. if the war would not stop, these people also need to go somewhere and also the same with mass destruction weapons, the sooner platter put new stop the less possibility of that he will be so desperate to use these weapons. neil: hang in there, your bravery knows no bounds and your ukrainian compatriots, hopefully we will be back to you with even better news. the president, a little hard to hear, talking to some of these refugees in poland, in warsaw outside the stadium. let's see if we can pick him up.

>> president biden: i know, i know. [inaudible conversations] >> these people are united. we are all from fair with small kids. [inaudible conversations] >> they were stuck in the basement for the longest time. at the moment.

[inaudible conversations] >> president biden: you can't. i don't speak i speak ukrainian but tell her i want to take her home. >> let's coho. >> president biden: i have four girls at home, granddaughters. i am crazy about them.

you are all brave, brave, brave. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> president biden: when we start. [inaudible conversations] >> president biden: you all should be.

look at these eyes. turnaround, let's get a picture. [inaudible conversations] >> president biden: come on. [inaudible conversations] neil: we are going to continue monitoring this. don't often see the leader of the free world among ukrainian refugees in the biggest refugee exodus since world war ii.

the ukrainian and english interpretation here but he is getting a just of what these folks have been through. that woman making a reference to arriving in poland with the clothes on her back, leaving her home, her birth home and not knowing what will become of her country and the world, relaying that to the commander-in-chief of the united states of america. a rare opportunity for these refugees and also to get things off their chest. many are complaining about the lack of air cover, you heard a lot about that. president zelenskyy saying as generous as countries have been and western powers have been and nato has been, they could use more military aid. made another request, pounding the theme that he intended for more such aid the does not seem to be forthcoming but if poland

has its way there will be a way to get those planes, biggs into ukraine. ukraine has gotten some pretty spectacular technology that has allowed it to go after russian ships sometimes miles away and they sunk a russian carrier earlier, was not available to them prior to that that they have now. they been requesting stinger missiles and a lot more to keep the battle going a bit reports that russia has changed its strategy more than a month into this focusing on the eastern part of the country to focus on the danbas region where the russians dominate anyway. maybe this is a precursor of a face-saving gesture on the part of the russians to say they reclaimed and they argued was there is from the beginning and use that as the next

steppingstone in an agreement, if the ukrainians would agree to fat, the land russia has taken at the start of the war and let that be the new blueprint, might be a leap of faith but following it closely. the state secretary for international communication and international spokesperson, nice of you to join us. what do you make of the course of this war now and what seems to be a repositioning of russian troops, not saying they are giving up on the capital, far from it but that they seem to be focused on locking down the eastern front. what do you make of that? i will go to the president speaking right now. >> we can see those heartbreaking pictures from poland. >> president biden: just want to say thanks. it makes me so proud.

the ukrainian people, each of those children said something, say a prayer for my dad or my grandfather or my brother who is back there fighting. i remember what it is like to have someone in a war zone every morning you get up and wonder, you pray you don't get that phone call. an amazing group of people. >> what about mariupol? >> president biden: it is astounding. >> you are dealing every day with vladimir putin, look at what he has to into these people. what does it make you think? >> president biden: he is a butcher. >> thank you, guys, thank you. neil: you have been listening

to the president, sorry i had to interrupt but a new label for vladimir putin besides a war criminal, the president said just now he is a butcher, for thousands of civilians who lost their lives in ukraine, that is not a semantic leap. your the hungary representative, hungary has been dealing with in a state close to what is going on and there's concern the polish president had about getting aid to nato states including those close to ukraine but it is slow in coming. how do you feel about that? >> we see these heartbreaking pictures on a daily basis. great numbers are arriving and

i can tell you 520,000 people have already arrived hungary. we do know how big pressure, emotional and physical pain it puts on these people who are fleeing war. lots of emotion there, strong words out there but hungary decided rational decisions are the way to deal with this conflict would you have to keep in mind across the border we have 150,000 ethnic hungarians living in ukraine so we have a special regard for them but we don't differentiate, whoever is arriving from ukraine either directly or through romania we are accepting them and taking care of them.

also the humanitarian effort is being conducted not only by the state agencies, charity organizations we set up a new structure for that and to tell you one example, the international red cross's headquarters for to stripping humanitarian aid here in hungary too. neil: i'm curious what you make of the argument if vladimir putin succeeds and annexes a large swath of ukraine into makes it russian territory as some seem to think he's doing with this new military strategy to focus on danbas to lock them down and call that his, but where he is from here, he goes elsewhere, looks at slovenia or poland.

others argued given his haphazard military venture he's not able to do that and they needn't worry about that. where are you on this? if he leaves, taking a chunk more, how do you feel that would be regarded? >> hungary has fortunately a long list of historical lessons and experiences. we've seen intrusions, attacks coming from the east. that is why hungary has joined nato and we are a devoted part of the defense of alliance that accepted us back in 2004. i can tell you hungary was the first to recognize a couple years ago that security is one

of the focal points of the future in central europe which is why we started to catch up and close the gap of the 2% gdp contribution to the nato effort. you were aware of that under the previous administration and why we are very active and devoted partner in any cooperation. two days ago there was a new decision that a new combat force will come to hungary. with our nato allies we are reinforcing cooperation and this is something imperative among the circumstances we see. it is beyond my and hungary's competence to speculate what will happen in ukraine. our best interest with a special regard to the hungarians in ukraine and

devotion to the territorial integrity of ukraine vet this war should not be escalated and peace should be reinstated as soon as possible possible. neil: thank you very much. by the way, the prime minister is already calling on the european union to provide more and speedier aid, the polish president duda talking about the need to speed up military purchases not just for ukraine but poland itself as they move to beef up nato forces in all the neighboring forces the don't necessarily neighbor ukraine. that is necessary for what could be vladimir putin's next move even though he's had a devil of a time orchestrating just this move. griff jenkins has been

following the changes and what russia is up to now. what can you tell us? >> reporter: after 30 one days of fighting it is clear that putin overestimated quick ukrainian capitulation. no major city is in russian hand and it is clear russia's original goals have not been met in any significant way and ukrainian forces are entering their second week of a counteroffensive but you heard from military officials russia they are trying to reframe the narrative that phase 2 will focus on liberation of the danbas region. that this eastern area. in the last 24 hours there has been heavy fighting in the north and in mariupol, the southern port city that has been pulverized, cut off from food, water, electricity, they are turning it to rubble. we learned the russians were demanding ukrainian surrender the city.

they are fighting street to street for every inch. that's a significant part of what is happening. if you go over here to kherson, the first major urban area to fall to the russian invasion on march 2nd. we are learning from the pentagon it is now a contested territory. that is something we are absolutely watching as the counteroffensive for ukrainian forces flights to take that back but ultimately you know this land bridge we've heard so much about may be what vladimir putin ultimately wants, that would allow russia to have a direct connection all the way to crimea which russia took in 2014. i do want to point out, i want to change to a blue color for the counteroffensive that began two weeks ago here in the northwest part of kyiv and on the east you see significant successes, the pentagon says russian forces in these areas

of gone into defensive positions, that is something russian military officials did not expect would happen and one more point, lviv where you've had our reporters, jonathan hunt, jeff paul over there, there's not been a strike out here since march 18th when the russians struck the aircraft repair facility at the international airport. is good that we are not seeing attacks there. i want to go quickly, closer into danbas where they will focus phase 2 of the russian invasion and that eastern area. luhansk and mariupol down there which they are trying hard to get hold of but all these red dots are russian advances, fierce fighting happening there, all along this line.

that is what russian forces hope they can push westward and they want to get russian forces back behind ukrainian forces to close it off. whether that happens we will find out. that's where there is fierce fighting and there has been fighting on this eastern region since 2014 so this is just an escalation of that at this point. we have this little city circled because there is some debate, russian say they've taken it and ukrainian officials say they've not and kharkiv, the second largest city in ukraine still not in russian hands although there is some fighting there. that's the update of where things stand. as we watch it, putin's original plan is not going accordingly. neil: it seems like a new strategy. the president dismissed that, he said the guy is a butcher

referring to vladimir putin but there seems to be a military shift going on. thank you very much. something is changing. don't know, you are the expert, the strategy seems now if you are vladimir putin, lockdown what we have and don't venture forward to try to gain what we don't have yet. what you make of this and where it could be going? >> thanks for having me on. i think you are right, you're reporting this morning has indicated the direction it is going and that is not in vladimir putin's favor but one of the things i would offer, nato and the united states need to get back on the side of the deterrent equation where we are causing flattery putin to react, not the other way

around, the other thing that needs to be done is given the situation on the ground, nato and the united states need to provide ukrainians more tools to enable them to fight and win. the other point i would like to make, pardon me for going on but it is an important one is to understand that vladimir putin's goal is to restructure the security architecture of eastern europe. as was just mentioned he initiated this effort in 2014 with the annexing of crimea and now he's attempting to do the same with ukraine. he's not going to stop there. nato and the united states need to think ahead, not just into the current time, and accomplish a more forceful power projection by the united states and nato into the eastern european nato nations.

neil: others say he might've wanted to do that when the started but the disorganized way he's gone about it in this one month long more he has been humbled, his military has been embarrassed and he's not up to that so we are worried about something that might not happen. what do you make of that? >> typical us -- let me just say it, arrogant mirror imaging that tends to go on where us and nato personnel tend to assume flattery putin and the russians think like we do. as you can tell i don't agree with that perspective. we shouldn't underestimate what

the russians are capable of, not necessarily what they are capable of but what they may attempt to do. i think the baltics are susceptible to further russian adventurism, due to their proximity and we need to be careful and send a clear message to putin to stay out and away we can do that is by looking at capabilities and stop trying to conduct strategy by counting the numbers of pairs of boots on the ground. we need to do things like deploying a squadron of the world's most capable still pay fighters like the f-22 to the baltics and romania and if the russian foreign ministry takes another aggressive threat or makes another threat, units about 35s could follow to poland. these are the moves that will cause vladimir putin caution

and induce uncertainty into his decision calculus. then there's the option to send be 2s to england. that will get his attention. any or all of these actions would stand to regain nato's position in the parents equation. neil: thank you. you always make people think, appreciate that, thank you, good seeing you and thank you for your service to this country as well. an interesting way to look at this, so busy assuming putin is on defense and he will leave with his tail between his legs, might be miss reading it, the oil markets, they think stick around a while, putting prices up higher and europe is feeling it but so is russia, right? veteran homeowners, need a financial boost? the newday 100 va loan lets you borrow

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neil: we are getting this in from aviv, explosions, russian airstrike would seem most likely. a lot of smoke, we don't know much more about it but this is just happening here. until very recently, they've been spared a lot of the big attacks, the entire countries engulfed in this but we were mentioning the russian military strategy to focus on the eastern side of the country, too early to tell what the strategy is outside conflicting hell. the president a few minutes ago in poland referring to vladimir putin in that strategy is the act of a butcher. anything more on this latest attack we will take it to you. in the meantime this keeps oil prices rocketing at a lot of

energy types getting anxious about it. phil flynn is following it closely and what we could be in 4. no sooner did we get a report like we just did out of lviv than the markets would rocket up because that is seemingly setting the price situation right now. >> i think right now because global inventory is going into this war, the tightest they've been in a generation were more sensitive to these headlines. a headline like this is a terrible headline that impacts everyone at home, your gasoline prices, your heating bills and food prices as well because instability and that region, major grain producer will cause prices to go higher. neil: jeff paul is in lviv.

what can you tell us? >> reporter: a few minutes ago we heard air raid sirens go off. we haven't heard those air raid sirens go off but we mentioned an hour ago it has been relatively quiet. we heard air raid sirens go off and some people are hearing some booms. we heard from our security team that they heard what sounded like two jets fly overhead. haven't been able to confirm that but that is what it sounds like and then images like we are watching now in the main city center. this is not in downtown lviv but this is huge because most of what we've seen as far as russian forces attacking have been happening in the south region of ukraine and now

something happening very far west. this is as far west as you can getting ukraine and this is 1.5 km north and northeast of the downtown center in lviv so huge development and you can see, looking at that picture the massive plumes of smoke, a communications tower. it is unclear how this could affect things in town or beyond with the war that is going on right now. neil: you point out, a lot of our top military officials have been theorizing that vladimir putin is trying to lockdown the land he has, folks in the houston part of the country, as close as you can be to poland on the other side but i'm wondering if this is a way to keep people guessing and there is a strategy to that but folks

have got to be a little anxious. >> there's been cautious optimism since the conflict started because this city has remained relatively untouched and people continue as i look around from here to go about their daily lives, cars are moving around, people going to shops and walking about but we are really close to the polish border, 48 miles away so to see something like this happen so close and so far west is very concerning especially when we've been talking about putin's strategy is changing and he doesn't want anything to do with kyiv and he's looking at the danbas region and protect a land core door. this is out of left field and something anybody didn't expect to happen today in lviv. neil: please be safe, i know i

sound like a typical dad but you are young enough to be my son. let's look at a couple developments here. the developing of uncertainty, that is the kind of thing phil flynn looks at. in a vacuum, prices are higher, oil and, another trajectory of this shows another extension of this war. i wonder how they play this out. >> it will be a lot of upside risk going into next weekend what's more amazing about this is the you but he did stop sending money to russia for oil and gas. late last week the year but he did and nato, trying to come up with resolutions or cut off russia from oil and gas and they basically decided they can't do it so have to send the money despite these terrible

images we are seeing on the television and it shows you the importance of energy security. president biden this week offered the us energy sector natural gas to help avert the situation but in this country we've natural gas for so many years we can't do as much as we could if we had out pro energy policy in the united states. neil: for those just tuning in what you are looking at, multiple explosions heard in lviv, ukraine, on the western side of ukraine, 48 miles from the polish border, the president is in warsaw where he has been meeting with ukrainian refugees and made reference to vladimir putin saying he is a butcher. whether this follows the theme we don't know, we don't know

what has been targeted on the lviv outskirts, this flies in the face of other military reads on what the russians were up to by focusing on the eastern side of the country but the opposite side that you are looking at here locking down the danbas region where they had control anyway, essentially locking that down into may be focusing on the capital and the western side of the can. back to jeff paul focusing on this. it would be a head fake if that was the case but i am wondering, ukrainians thinking there is a new strategy to encircle the country. >> reporter: beyond ukrainians, think about people in poland. we have our own president there, this is incredibly close and a lot of people thinking

what message this is trying to send, how close it is to the border, you couldn't have picked a closer place with such a big city center than where we are in lviv. i don't know if this is a message or what this is big picturewise. a lot of people are talking about russian strategy. only one person knows the russian strategy and that is vladimir putin. if this is an example of we don't know what is next this is god to be it. this is 1.5 km north northwest of the city center which remained relatively untouched. we see soldiers, checkpoints, people from those impacted areas coming in but this is the first major escalation in terms of this war when it comes to the western part of this country. neil: and you are right, it is certainly a game changer, finding out what was hit.

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the outskirts of lviv, do we know at this point what the russians are bombing? >> we believe this is a communication tower a mile outside the city center outside lviv so it is very close, probably the closest anything has happened, a bombardment or shelling or anything like that. this is one of the most dramatic things that has happened in the western part of a country of the country. you got to think about why, why is this "happening now"? why is it happening where it is happening, and you think about 48 to 100 miles to the west of us in poland, you have the president and other conversations happening about nato and how they are going to respond, it would be foolish to think this isn't some sort of message being sent. we don't know how this is

affecting actual people if anyone has been hurt or killed but it is a communication tower. read into that however you want but i will take you through what happened. there were some air raid sirens which is weird because the last few days it has been fairly quiet and then you heard some rumblings, didn't know if it was a truck or a train and then confirmation on the ground, they believe, hasn't been confirmed, two jets had flown overhead and we heard reports about smoke billowing in the distance, north northeast of the city center where we are in lviv and then we heard it was a communication tower. we are all learning on the fly but a huge message likely being since not only to president biden but to the west. neil: a little more than

coincidental this attack on a western ukrainian city, the president of the united states talking to ukrainian refugees in the warsaw area, i am sure that is not entirely. >> this really has to come down to timing. lviv has remained untouched. we are technically in a war zone, relatively safe. people going about their daily lives as this is unfolding, traffic flowing down. people going about their day but it is going to change how people view this war. we don't know what is going to happen next and it is a perfect example of that, totally unexpected. most of this happens on the

coast, it is closer to russia but this is quite far away from where other things have been happening. neil: it is wild. we don't have any more details but it goes against the -- where he already has considerable control and locking it down. in the western part of the country. of frequent guest on this show, always amazed by your bravery, ukrainian member of parliament who was chastised a number of nato nations and grateful for their support.

in the western part of the country, there is a different strategy in russia. >> that is a continuation of the strategy. we have been warning, flattery putin will not stop his aggression, on the polish border is not just the message to go in further. just receiving messages after messages from colleagues in lviv, everyone has been made to go underground. shifting more targets, whether this attended or not but in any

case, there's likely to be civilian casualties. it is a shopping center, the epicenter of the supermarket for all kinds of things. likely to have civilians in white suits. for the west, should be a clear sign that they stop acting irresponsibly and start reacting to vladimir putin's policy of pressure. neil: when you say stop acting irresponsibly, what do you mean? >> under the us charter, we have a responsibility toward each other, when the act of aggression takes place, self defense is allowed and it is

collective. collective self-defense means act of aggression against all the international community. all the un member states in the russia sector, didn't do that and saw the escalation in 2022. they are standing by adjusting, meaning nothing, but they have no attempt to comply with that. with the international peace and security on the ground. this is not rocket science. this formula was established, the only way to stop aggression

is to uproot it from the beginning. the international community on the sidelines, netflix documentary or tv series, global defense and security tools, and the nation and people living in the other countries. neil: talking to refugees about how vladimir putin's strategy came up, and did that by calling president prudent a butcher. do you agree? vladimir putin is a butcher? >> i agree with every word joe biden, president of the united states, said, he is a butcher, he is a war criminal, he deserves to be tried and

imprisoned at the very least. what he's doing to ukrainians should concern all people. it is state terror. neil: thank you very much. you always speak your mind. be safe. ukrainian member of parliament staying to fight the good fight, not underestimating vladimir putin for one minute. my next guest, former ambassador to poland, good to see you. she is not surprised that vladimir putin is doing what he is doing. we expect him to zigged, he is asked, we expect him to focus on the eastern part of the country, building consensus, then hits the western part of the country. what do you make of this strategy or what there is to make of it? >> putin's war is not going as he wished. his which was to destroy

ukrainian sovereignty. it now looks like the russians are going to try more territory in the eastern part of the country. it is not clear they can do this. much depends on the battlefield. the ukrainians have a nontrivial chance of stopping the russian offensive. us and nato policy should aim at supporting the ukrainians in their fight. that's one of the things president biden was in poland, poland is the hub of support of ukraine. it is at some risk. the polls seem all in, the chief front-line state on defense of freedom and ukraine and the us polish relationship is a relationship, we don't want the war to spread but there is a war and this is a

wartime summit. neil: you know poland so well. polish president duda, mentioned the need for more military supplies, the quicker the better. he wasn't talking about ukraine. there had been a great deal of conversations among nato members to beef up troop presence and military presence in those states that border ukraine and beyond those that might not necessarily border ukraine. what do you make of that pitch and where it is going. >> a couple days ago the polls are happy to have the american troop presence but there point is they will fight to defend their country and they are interested in having us support and equipment to enable them to do so but it is always good

when our allies are ready to fight themselves. what the us can do for poland militarily and what agreement is available is something for specialists but i see where the polls are coming from. russian hate propaganda is against them. they are not intimidated but they want to talk to the us about strengthening their defenses and this is understandable. neil: anything more comes up we would love to talk to you as we always do. the former ambassador to poland. we are trying to discern what is going on, 48 miles to the polish border. the communications tower that was hit or -- may be included a

shopping mall or there are average civilians, the label that president biden has added to the litany of things he has called putin including a war criminal and a monster and now a butcher. he's targeted in the past hospitals, better than 2 dozen of them, a maternity hospital, taking out a number of pregnant women and their children, a theater, claimed the lives of hundreds with hundreds still missing. whether this follows that pattern, one thing is clear, this is a sign of a guy who is pulling back. far from it. ♪ "how bizarre" by omc ♪ no annual fee on any discover card. ♪ ♪ i always wanted to know more about my grandfather. he...was a hardworking man who came to new york from puerto rico when he was 17.

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messages where this attack wasn't whether it was targeting civilians. the latest from jeff paul who was there. what can you tell us? >> reporter: an hour ago we started hearing air raid sirens go off, some rumbling and started to see this in the distance where you see clouds of black smoke billowing into the air and we are told by our security team on the ground and it's possible two jets were targeting what we believe to be a communication tower. what makes it significant is the location of where this is happening and the time. you've got to think about who's close to ukraine and that is the president of the united states. this must be a message from president putin because most of these attacks happened on the eastern portion of the country in the south coming in mariupol. when you have something like this and look at the timing and locationally 48 miles from the polish border, where we are in

lviv has remained relatively untouched, we had air raid sirens the last few days or so but it has been fairly quiet and then you have something like this, this is a major escalation compared to what has been going on the last 2 or 3 weeks. neil: the president says something about who and recruitment of something like this, down to the second, there's an increasing hazard to the attacks but russians launched on ukrainians. he referred to the port city of mariupol where there is a great deal of damage inflicted on women and children, seeing another aleppo, syrian forces

killing so many during that civil war. he sized up the strategy of florida mumu -- vladimir putin. press reports today about putin trying to shore up his base for sure up the areas under russian control but this is vladimir putin's way of saying i am controlling this, not you. >> you nailed it on the head. no one knows what is next or what this army will be told to do next except for vladimir putin. there has been a lot of talk ground down to a halt and both sides are dug in that vladimir putin, what he wants to do next is changed, focused on building this land court or but you see what is behind us and it is totally changing what could happen next and no one knows but putin.

this is a huge message. you look geographically at the map and see how far we are from areas that were hit hardest, this is extremely far west. you can't get much further west in ukraine. it is some sort of message and we don't know what will happen next. neil: you are outside and reporting bravely but as you pointed out, they are not getting the same attacks we are getting in mariupol because they are not used to this. what are they doing in light of this development? >> lviv has become a safe haven for people trying to flee towns like ef and mariupol, trying to come here and get out of danger in this is a place where people can catch their breath, move on to somewhere else or bunk with a friend until they get their bearings and then you have something like this happen and

you don't know what could be targeted next but people continue their day with cautious optimism. there are cars going by and people going about their daily lives and this would get some attention and give a sense that anything could happen and they are not invincible. neil: war is unpredictable, sort of a cliché but i just committed to that. on the western side of the country. peter doocy has been traveling with the president in warsaw today, meeting with those refugees from ukraine, trying to assure them the us has their back and poland's back and caring for them and now this. >> to add more concept to what jeff was reporting from lviv, that's very far west, about 212 miles from where we are in

warsaw, 5 hour and 20 minute drive, a lot closer than kyiv is, to where we are with the president who is preparing for remarks later today. we just saw the president at a refugee camp. he has a new nickname for the russian leader who has been showing the country next door and that name is butcher. >> you see this and you are dealing every day with larry bruton, look at what he has done. >> he is a butcher. >> reporter: the president is saying he is not sure if the russians have changed their strategy in ukraine but reiterated during a sitdown meeting with some polish leaders that they will defend every inch of territory if vladimir putin tries to move beyond ukraine and as the

president gets up closely at the way poland is moving desperate refugees from ukraine he is comparing the crush of ukrainians at the border hereto the border with mexico and the united states. >> president biden: the fact that you have so many ukrainians seeking refuge in poland we understand that because we have our southern border thousands of people a day, literally, not figuratively trying to get into the united states but we believe we should do our part relative to ukraine by opening our borders to another 100,000 people. >> president biden will continue touring poland later today. we are told by the white house his remarks will be focused on figuring out or laying out a way for the free world to respond not only to vladimir

putin and punish him at 12 refugees who keep pouring into poland and help from however they can. neil: the president opted out of abundance of caution, taking advice to not travel to ukraine, this is in the western portion of ukraine which seemed to indicate that decision. other border state leaders who went to kyiv, that is a different security level, but this does seem to justify that cautious position. >> it does. the timing nobody knows outside the criminal why exactly this is "happening now" but it is happening while the president is getting ready for a speech where he is going to condemn flattering putin on the world stage, to see the plumes of

smoke rising, a 5 hour dr. from here to there is not far, much farther than us presidents usually get to that kind of war. it is close. but it probably does indicate the president's secret service and military leaders who told him not to cross the border. neil: thank you, 48 miles from warsaw, a little more than i estimated. as peter indicated a 5 hour dr. tops, a little too close for comfort. lieutenant colonel danny davis. what do you make, a country that up to now had not been the target of russian forces?

>> reporter: russian forces have been in a recent couple of weeks making more use of their targeted long-range missiles, hypersonic missiles to specific military targets like fuel depots and maintenance facilities but this one has a political message to go with it because of the timing. there is no doubt, president biden, you're getting ready to make a speech, i am here and i'm not -- i'm very sure that is part of the message here. neil: maybe you could help me with the timing of this. general jack keane had been hearing at the highest levels the administration was pushing president zelenskyy to make a deal or go into talks with the russians. something like this makes that

increasingly unlikely. >> it may make it more likely because all the support we have given the arms coming and especially in the east which i've been talking about for quite a while russia continues to make advances and there is a real danger that putin could subtract 40,000 ukrainian troops. of zelenskyy loses that whole battle group, his position becomes less tenable and that's a good reason to do what he can't to get a negotiated settlement to save his troops and his people. i am for that because anything that stopped the killing is good for the people of ukraine and lowers the chances of an accidental misfire that could expand the war. what if this missile was a

little off target and hit something bigger? those are the things we have to worry about. neil: i am wondering, what is the strategy of vladimir putin? this might be a way to get people to go to the table and talk about things, he locks in the land he has god, he has a quarter of the country, most of it around the danbas region. if he locks it down and says i leave with what i've got, he shrunk the country a little bit from crimea, increase the land that russia owns and occupies. what do you think of that and how that would be received? >> there's a real possibility the longer this goes at least in vladimir putin's mind stronger his negotiating position to keep the land

bridge from crimea back all the way into russia and in the danbas area. where the troops are on the east or west of kyiv, flattering putin will negotiate those back. he doesn't have enough troops to hold them and his best policy, one of his best negotiating tools is give it back, it is already theirs to own but you are right, he strategically would like to hang on to that land bridge. it's important to his strategy. neil: we will be touching later on the show on the support plan report and presumably enjoys back home which a lot of folks in russia don't know what is going on. there's a break between young people who seem to be aware of what is going on and order less social media savvy folks who don't but they are all feeling the same economic pain and i'm wondering if that is the factor

that vladimir putin is most worried about, support at home could be waning. >> at this point support is growing in the reason why is the propaganda campaign they have that this is not a war of choice for vladimir putin as we know it is but this is war forced on him by nato, their encroachment and he's defending the motherland, defending the russians, the whole patriotic rally around the flag thing. historically russians are used to suffering. they can get by for a long time and they can suffer more than a western audience. any thought that they will start losing support is not going to happen in the near term. neil: it wasn't my final

question better ukrainian parliament member who was a frequent guest suspects this isn't just a communication style take down. given the plumes of smoke you are seeing, i'm curious what you make of that and her assertion that this was another civilian area targeted making reference to a shopping center that was not far away. what do you make of it? >> what we've seen most of the time, not in all cases but a majority of the time, russian strikes, the ukrainian army is defending from those locations. it is authorized in the laws of warfare and attackers to use that as a legitimate target. we've seen many cases where ukrainians were in those areas, this is important to understand. the absence -- is not evidence that russia's strategy is failing because i don't believe there -- the strategy is to

destroy ukrainian armed forces so they don't have the ability to defend their capital and this could be one of those where they are attacking ukrainian defenders in those areas. will: the death of civilians is collateral damage. >> they don't care about that. troops are in their they will attack and that is a harsh reality. neil: good seeing you again. thank you for your insight. many people saying it can't just be a communications tower. it is close enough to the city to have a lot of folks worried and close enough to poland to have a lot of folks in that nato country worried maybe even more after this. ing on my mind. thankfully, voya provides comprehensive solutions, and shows me how to get the most out of my workplace benefits. voya helps me feel like i got it all under control.

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neil: we are fixing on explosions in lviv, ukraine and separate reports that russian forces have taken control of the town where workers at the defunct chernobyl nuclear plant lived. on the other side of the country toward the eastern side of the country but we can't confirm this, the russians have retaken that area. some of the workers at that plant had been there 24/7,

authorities in control of it and allowed them to go home but they are controlling the town they were going home to. we are watching the plant, something worries because in the course of this war russian forces have targeted not one but two nuclear facilities. in the case of the one at a chernobyl coming within 1500 feet of the reactor itself, could have been a different story. these are sketchy reports we are getting from this nuclear plant, right next door, russian forces have regained it and those who work at the plant are under russian control but it is the focus of the western part of the country that i wouldn't say is immune to this war but not the focus of this war and not vladimir putin's focus with all of this occurring the same

day the president of the united states was in poland, 48 miles away the warsaw is a bit further. close enough to be comfort. jeff paul with the latest. do we know what exactly was hit and if there were any casualties? >> we are learning from some folks on the ground that they believe it was an oil depot that was the target of this attack. the mayor of lviv confirming russian forces are responsible for this but they came through and targeted this area. we don't know the impact on human life as the fire continues to burn, you see the black smoke in the air but what makes this an alarming development is lviv has stayed relatively calm and quiet and become a safe haven for the people who have fled mariupol

and kyiv who have been constantly shelled by russian forces and this is a huge escalation considering how far west we are in ukraine. neil: thank you, we will be going back to you. we are going to take a break. when it rains it pours but we are getting reports that saudi arabia has responded to the attack of the insurgent group that dominates yemen. they have hit back, rebels have taken back for a while a petroleum storage site, that briefly led to energy prices skyrocketing. the saudis have responded to that, we don't know how much damage was done but they have little reason to doubt because the who the rebels have taken credit for that. saying you are vulnerable, you are hours.

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strongholds in yemen. we don't know how much damage it did there but they are moving ahead and trying to go back to normal when key facilities are taken out by this, didn't define how much production, all of this is occurring in the city of jeddah which is hosting a formula one racing the event. a little incredulous about if this doesn't send out alarms to part of the world in which we are dependent on oil and explode at a moments notice, taking you back to the idea that we better look for alternatives to say nothing of what is going on in russia, the war in ukraine, the latest

development if you just joined us i can share with you there was an attack on the western portion of ukraine, might have hit an oil refinery or communications tower. the plaque blowing smoke is similar, and jeff paul. >> reporter: black smoke is blowing, we believe this is an oil refinery targeted, around what was happening in the area in the communication tower. the timing of this attack, where it is happening, could have happened anywhere, 48 miles away where the president of the united states, is this a message to the rest of the world that we don't know what

flattery putin is going to do next? a change in strategy, this could show it is not what people thought was going to happen but as we follow this development, we will try to -- the mayor of lviv has confirmed he believes this is the responsibility of the russian army, and that was not being disclosed at the moment but this fire will continue to grow even if it is an oil refinery given all the fuel, we will see where this goes next, the town remains relatively quiet, safe haven for people trying to escape the violence and find itself in a similar position. will: jeff paul in lviv.

president biden before getting news of the latest attack in ukraine referred to vladimir putin as a butcher, the kremlin has responded to that characterization saying the new biden comments, possibilities for mending relations, they were already on shaky ground. had more to do with vladimir putin's actions than anyone else's words. following the president of the united states, not far from all the stuff that is going on in lviv. from the western city, 48 miles to poland, the refugees have been fleeing ukraine, they have

found a home in poland but it is a rocky road. >> reporter: good afternoon to you. i want to talk about jeff paul's reporting on the ground. if this oil depot was a target of the russian military this is a huge shift in the lviv area, in ukraine, we see previous attacks targeting military compounds where military aid is being delivered this would be the first nonmilitary attack around the lviv area. this is a huge safe haven, looking at 2 million ukrainian refugees from eastern ukraine to western ukraine, a lot of

folks are now hiding out along the border of ukraine and poland but not crossed into poland yet. if this was the intended target, they shifted their methods from the military targets this is going to strike a lot of fear to the hearts of ukrainians who fled from central and eastern ukraine. i want to talk about a visit to a refugee center, the first -- with ukrainian refugees close to the border, the epicenter of the crisis and said he was disappointed he did not get to meet those ukrainians. he visited a soccer stadium in warsaw where he got to meet with mothers and children who fled ukraine, some stopped to talk to him, spoke with him in ukraine.

chef josé andre was there as well, a nonprofit is providing all the food to these refugees across poland and president biden got to talk with volunteers and shared what the children said to. >> president biden: each one of those children said say her prayer for my dad and my grandfather or my brother and i remember what it is like when you have someone in a war zone every morning, you just wonder about that phone call. they are an amazing group of people. >> reporter: yesterday biden and president duda, they are leaning a lot on nonprofit groups to give refugees shelter, medical attention, refugee agency has the reporting of large polish

cities like kraków and warsaw are struggling to accommodate new arrivals and as i mentioned earlier, on thursday the administration pledged $1 billion in humanitarian aid and promised to accept 100,000 ukrainian refugees. a lot of ukrainians want to go home, just following on this attack in lviv. they want to cross the border into poland. poland to stake in a brunt of this humanitarian crisis. 3 million people, we could now see millions more in the next couple days because of the attack today. neil: the russians don't honor these humanitarian zones that

allow ukrainians to leave, you've seen more than your share of harrowing stories. >> to any of the countries surrounding ukraine, some people coming from eastern ukraine lost their loved ones, are fleeing for their lives and by the time they get here they are exhausted and shellshocked. the looks on their faces, we've seen the worst of it and all sorts of stories about what is happening on the ground, they are frightened and i want to say this crisis is far from over. it is just beginning. this war is dragging on. it does not appear to be ending anytime soon and the us is offering to bring in 100,000

but the majority do not want to leave, want to stay as close to the border as possible. separated families, not total family units, they are leaving their fathers or husbands behind, they don't want to go far from the border. neil: they might say that is a little far. great reporting is always. speaking of poland i want to tell the story about the mayor and the model, doing their part to help some of these refugee kids. a group of polish american models are working to help refugee kids, how to support them.

good to have both of you. let me start with you. we are hearing these reports, you were concerned. tell me how this evolved. >> i am polish and spent a lot of time on polish, i need to do something. i tried my best with donating and social media but my husband said i'm going to poland so he went to help organize vehicles for children, transported from ukraine to poland and i was thinking with the mayor what can i do from here and do something. an organization which means teddy bear in polish, to give teddy bears to children when they cross the border, to give

them a little bit of a sense of hope about the situation when they are entering a country, with open arms and a smile on their face. there is hope for the future and it will be okay. we provided necessities like shoes and shampoo, anything they need. he is there on the ground helping and i will be there soon. any way we can help and put a smile on children's faces. neil: it is amazing, credit to you getting this administratively going but even the world over has been stunned because you have a long history of compassion and decency and opening your homes to families in need but this is more than you bargained for. polls have taken almost all these refugees.

how do you feel about the way those who still seek safety in your country? >> very hard on the polish people because we have to help our neighbor, just a few miles from the border, in normal times we visit ukraine, sometimes one time for weeks or sometimes a couple weeks. a lot of families split on two sides of the border. it is not very important for us how many hours we are working here.

we want to have all the people coming here and stay as long as we have to. neil: we are getting word about this attack on lviv earlier today, not far east of where you are now and i am wondering, these two rockets that hit the city have wounded at least five. i wonder if that will speed up the refugee push into poland. >> i think the first week of the crisis, something we call the third wave. it was 50,000 refugees. that is dropping.

no less refugees coming through the border. in the last few days, 7 or 8000 refugees coming through the city. a very calm situation but ready for more just in case. i think after that situation, after that strike in lviv we can expect another wave, another huge wave. what i hope as mayor of lviv, refugees in lviv and waiting for the situation, that is what we can expect in a few hours and a few days, a lot of refugees coming through again and again. neil: all these innocent people, all the kids caught up

in this. how do you explain to them what is going on? what to they make of it? >> we don't explain. we do everything to show them they are in a safe place now. we try to provide everything like food and everything. it is very helpful. they are in a friendly area. very important for all the piece, usually they cry. about that situation. very important. neil: it is. what you are doing, sorry to jump on you. what you are doing is

important, a lot of good to help kids. man's cruelty to man particularly one particular man, try to make sense of it in these times, it is tough but on kids it raises a question, got to do something better. these guys are providing that. fox news continuing coverage of the ukraine war now. happening now multiple explosions heard in the your critic of the viva. it's 48 miles on post for this is president biden visits refugees and planning for eight major speech on they were coming up next hour. welcome to fox news alive i am gillian turner in washington. griff: great to be with you. we'll start with viewers to map to go up to speed what's just happened what's happened last 24 hours pretty heard the reports the russian forces w