you. sorry for the limited time. very well connected with people on the ground. it is already building up to the president of ukraine and what he sees is not driving with what we are hearing out of russia. sometimes what we hear out of washington. we apologize for the language, but again, this is war. ♪ ♪ >> greg: hi, i am breakup bill. -- greg gutfeld. this is "the five." [ music ] >> i think that words were incredibly powerful. he spoke personally about the moral outrage which he felt, which is shared by people across the world. it does not mean he is articulating a change in policy. it is not -- >> does he regret that those

words overshadowed a larger message? >> absolutely not. he spoke from the heart. >> greg: brand-new spent from the white house as they tried to walk back to wipe back -- walked back. apologies if that sentence made your brand walk back. the white house claiming biden was speaking in his personal capacity about russia's president, even though they said he was not several times. trying to figure out what biden meant is so confusing that joke had to use notecards just to get his story straight but it came with the helpful labeled in case he got mixed up with other cards. don't worry. don lemon has the white house covered. >> i think this is a manufactured story. i think we should ease off a

little bit because that is not what the president said. he did not save regime change. >> greg: okay, it is all just manufactured. jesse, the personal capacity line. >> jesse: yeah, 25th amendment. do you remember that? television. >> cameras. >> i don't know. this seems more serious this time. last time, it was trivial. they might have to stop playing "hill to the cheap" because he is not performing the duties. has anybody seen the raw footage of his sitdown lunch with the american soldiers -- soldiers? he walks in that room and there's no electricity. he starts telling a story about the last time he went to iraq. and he said, he wanted to hide his name.

he changed it to hunter. and the story never landed at the whole place was solid and then he just sits down and gets a piece of pizza. i remember seeing the footage of bush and trumpet you go to a mess hall in a war zone and you are serving the food. there's selfies everywhere and people are juiced up. displays, you have heard a pin drop. he shoves a piece of pizza in his mouth and he starts choking. there was a jalapeno pepper on it and pepperoni and he started having trouble getting it down and they notice and they start assisting him and they start handing him a glass of water and he sits on the water and then he starts taking a napkin and rolls up the napkin and he starts dabbing his forehead and he puts it down. now, is this the way you expect the president of the united states to act with our soldiers?

a couple miles from a hot war with russia? no. you expect more from someone like this. the wheels are falling off. this guy is like a vintage cards. you see that pages. the brakes arc shop. it is no longer fun to drive. >> you know why he ate the like that? it is because he is irish. now, being irish, i am irish. it is the go to excuse apparently. i thought that moment would be -- very timely as he does brilliantly. all of the music business and all that ridiculous -- biden just said straight. none of that happened. >> do you have that tape? >> none of that happened. have we got it? >> other leaders in the world are going to start to doubt that america is back.

if some of these big things that you say on the world stage keep getting -- >> president biden: putin -- >> it sounded like you told u.s. troops they were going to ukraine. it's hundred like you said it was possible the u.s. would use a chemical weapon and it sounded like you were calling for regime change in russia and we know -- by demetric none of the three occurred. >> what do you mean cannot of the 3-foot we heard you say each of those things. then we read the lock next in your own press office. and then we saw you walking track the walk backs and now you have moved to full denial mode or perhaps more sinister they, you have moved to completely forgetting mode. he genuinely does not remember saying anything. >> it could have been the hot pepper. i was going to say -- sq about

having your most basic ideas on notecards. i have that written down as a question. who am i to judge, judge? >> i mean, either he does not understand the consequences of what he said or he does not remember. in either case, this time from the 20. amendment. and you'd know who has to get involved in the 25th amendment? the vice president, kamala harris. but the problem really is that he is on the world stage. he is in a nation that is literally next door to a country where there is fighting and we are on the verge of zelenskyy saying world war iii. when he says this man cannot remain in power, they have to have a phone call, the investor. nato has to pull it back. these are dangerous, dangerous times and the russians, their economy is shot. they are losing people. their real -- rouphael --

>> it is showing -- doing well against the euro. i read an article. yeah, that is when -- >> remember when cuomo was getting antsy and was like, hey, i'm italian. >> you and i both love -- he believes that our white house wants to prolong this war to lead russia drive but also to defend the ukrainians because it satisfies public opinion but without costing american lives. however, you are risking thousands ukrainians and millions of homeless just to lead the country dry. >> one thing i wanted to get to that question. but on the appointment about the

president haven't notecards, some people have them. he was expressing a moral outrage. when you express a moral outrage, you don't need notes. that comes from the hard. i don't believe that you can claim that a president of they are states on the world stage at a speech that they bill as the most important speech so far, is done in his personal capacity. that is not believable to me. but that is why the european leaders had to have this meeting. to neil's point to -- i think that what he is talking about might be the practical result. i don't know if it is the intention or the strategy because it seems to me if he wanted to lead russia dry, she would have to start with that sanctions and possibly deterring this whole situation in the first place. now you have a situation where you have multiple cities destroyed.

you have millions of people that are displaced. if you have a russian economy that is going to be in dire straits even if the ruble -- come back. they are in a terrible situation. the one thing i think biden does not want to do is for this to continue because of the risk of this calculation -- mr. collation. leading to the resentment of the germans and world war ii. i think we should be hopeful that these talks are at least ongoing. >> piers: can i ask one difficult question? at what point is the red line around morality? at what point do we watch hospitals being bombed, refugees being targeted and murdered on the way out. americans in lines of bread because they are starving cupping god down. holocaust survivors being

incinerated. what is our redline. we know what hitler's was. i look at what is going on. i keep reading that putin is losing this is all going badly. i don't believe any of that. i think putin is doing exactly what he said up to do. he is ruthless. he is getting more ruthless, more barbaric. and hiding behind he has not attacked a nato country. i bet if he attacks a nato country, and what is he going to say? he is going to say, if you come after me, i'm going to use my new expect we have the quandary of a guide taking neutral -- guide taking nuclear armament. i asked the question because at some point, we will have to stand up to him. otherwise, where does it stop? i'm just throwing it out there. >> greg: there you go. coming up, chicago's mayor

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she already has. this is really rich, considering lightfoot was a major advocate for cutting funding to police. >> mayor lightfoot: it is essential that the police department take accountability in the way has alienated people of color, particularly african-americans in this city. we live in a city that is traumatized by police misconduct. >> greg: why would you need some deep officers to protect someone like that? >> i'm going to shock you. i have spoken to two rather than if you get high-level people in law enforcement. and they told me what i did not expect i would be saying. and that is that the number 71 is not that unusual because you

have got 24/7 operation and so it is around-the-clock and you have also got the mayor's house for security detail and city hall. so if you think about that, that is a lot of people find. -- fine. i think what she has done is terrible. her job. instead of blaming the police and sink the city of chicago is traumatized because of the police, she should know from her own statistics that when she stopped defunding the police and decided to somewhat up the budget from not to where it was but a little bit from where she defunded it, crime start to go down a teeny bit. she understands that police on the street are what stops crime. and so she has a right to have her own security detail. i had a security detail when i was a.

it is serious business and only they know what is appropriate. >> it is easy to talk about defunding the police what you have got your own brigades, right? this is my -- exactly tv house talking about how important shutdowns were. she never had to deal with the consequences. she never had to talked to the victims or worry about crime because it did not touch her. they have to be stripped of this stuff but the moment that they say that they are going to defund something, they should be stripped of it immediately because they got a list. they should walk the walk. >> the question is, is simply one appropriate for the mayor's office and your personal detail put the answer is yes. people like cori bush, we want to defund the police. and yet, you are spending $200 a year. it is wrong. >> joe biden is defensive.

we have thrown a lot of money on the issue. i'm not sure if he had a no card. >> is any of it related to political pressure from democrats? are due when i first got like to, i was beat up because i supported the police too much. no. what that is what i think. >> no. [laughter] >> i think that is what he thinks. he has put this in the budget. his political problems are not necessarily on the right or in that center. his problems are on the left. do you remember what alexandra causey cortes said? nobody on the left is energized by him. and they are about your based. he put into billionaires technic. it probably won't go anywhere

and it was easy for him to say, give more money to police. other people on his left don't believe it. >> you went out on the segment. were you assaulted immediately upon leaving the building by all of the people in new york city? >> piers: i was celebrated. this reminds me of the worst political slogan imaginable. 99% of people. politically, it is a complete fiasco. if there's one thing. does not matter where you are in the world, guaranteed to enrage an electric, it is like to officials preaching one thing and doing the complete opposite and we have a very interesting case with party gate where the prime minister, the entire staff having announced the lockdown rules for the country and very draconian restrictions. it turns out they were partying,

breaking their own restrictions every single week. 20 of them the find. it may include boris johnson. but the rage is not about the fact they were having parties and that rage about this is not the -- that mayor lightfoot. the rage is the hypocrisy. i would like to defund hypocrisy because that is a corrosive thing for any like to official. affect the she was out. we don't need many please. actually, i do. you don't. you can all suffer the crime. if my youngest son is in university in chicago and he says it is it scary. that is the best think about being in chicago. -- thing about being in chicago. >> torras' hair.

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, 19 anthony fauci -- >> piers: anthony fauci warning of a new omicron. , 19 i believe that we must keep our eye on -- >> dr. fauci: i believe we must keep our eye on infection. if things change, it does give us an uptick in cases and hospitalizations. we should be prepared and applicable enough to pay for what is going back at least temporarily to a more rigid type of restriction such as requiring masks into word. >> piers: americans have apparently had enough of the lockdown. 62% want to bring back masks and social distancing rules. fauci reminds me a bit of governor cuomo. there were heroic figures and it went massively to their head.

and the worst thing i think of an elected official or health official is to combine massive ego with they craved and start to be be on television. i'm talking specifically about like to officials and health officials. the more america sees of fauci the more it looks like it is about him and not about the reality of people who want to get on with their lives. >> you got to know when to leave. i just don't go up. he has had a taste of this. and there's something addictive about telling people how to live their lives. i call it the ideology of punishment, will be my next book. it is like i have -- it is not enough for me to tell you that you are wrong. you have to be punished and i'm going to punished you over climate instructions.

i'm going to punished you because of your identity and he is one of the four horsemen. he is addicted to sadism and i have been there. >> piers: we don't want to hear what might happen. the polls reflect this, massive surge because people want to feel good about life again. they want a bit of freedom. but it may be terrible. >> do you know why dr. doom one under bbc? because merchants are sick interpret proper you know what -- i'm going to ask trump, what is the biggest mistake you have made. i know what he is going to say. and i will tell him what his biggest mistake was. his biggest mistake was listening to fauci on lockdowns. it was china's idea.

it was a dumb idea. we never did anything like that. it destroyed small businesses. it destroyed children. it isolated americans. it killed our spirit. we are a people that need to be next to each other. anybody but you. and you can even pack it up because we shut the economy on and off. you can even blame inflation and the supply chain stuff, too. it all goes back to dr. doom. and he is so arrogant and stubborn that he won't admit that he choked and she needs to apologize to me personally. and i will only accept his apology -- i would love to watch that. it is an interesting controversial one. i supported the first lockdown in the uk because i felt with no vaccine and no apparent hope of indexing and with the thousands of people dropping dead every day, i did not know what else we could do before we found out

what we were dealing with. after that, once you get the drugs, once you get the vaccines, once it is demonstrated that you can get on with your lives, but if you do, you have to better chance of getting out of the other end, you have to learn to live with that virus. and him coming back like the ghost of christmas past, wanting his air time again to warn of something that may never it happened, i think it is a depressive tool we just don't need. >> opt in it is not based on the effects. everyone hung on every word the cdc said. in march of 2022, everyone is blowing him off. it is den just to have centers for disease control that is not trusted or believed or looked into because derek probably will be another pandemic hopefully not one as serious. but it could be. it could be. i think president biden should consider making a change the code and to do it fully and to

reestablish the credibility that is needed at the cdc because it is not just for the united states. it is for the world. i don't saying, the governors are going to go for this. it was the blue state governors that start to pulling it away. they thought, i at the polls. and they knew that that was not going to fly. >> piers: he is obviously a very eminent guy in his field. but i do feel watching him, it is the ego driving. >> there's no question the ego is driving it. there is not a tv show this man has not been here. [overlapping speakers] >> a desperate man. [overlapping speakers] >> he was also on "justice with judge jeanine." he has created a president so

that the totalitarian instinct that we have to listen to the people who are apparently allegedly is the better word, in the note, they are not used to telling us what to do when i'm not sure they know what to do and i don't know what we decided to be lockdown based upon the opinions of this guy who was sent to neil ferguson, who was the one who talked about the medi-cal disease in the uk, which was a disaster and so, you know, if this comes again and the good news is that u.s. is still experiencing a decline in infections. what we need to do is have the type of manhattan project where we bring in the best and brightest. where we bring in a doctor who is not in government and politics. but, does not have any interest in drugs and pharmaceuticals. i want someone who is clean, who is academically cleaned and not

someone who is beholden to politics or the drug companies. questions about the institute of virology. and the exact genesis of the pandemic because i don't think that is -- so interesting stuff. coming up got more fallout for will smith's slap heard around the world. that is next on "the five." [♪♪] if you have diabetes, it's important to have confidence in the nutritional drink you choose. try boost glucose control®. it's clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels and contains high quality protein to help manage hunger and support muscle health. try boost® today.

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season for healing and i'm here for it. will smith offering up an apology to rock saying he was out of line and wrong. but the damage has been done. the academy could revoke his oscar and check out this exchange with gayle king and comedian jim carrey. >> you do not have the right to expect someone in the face because they said words. >> i think we all agree with that. i think it escalated to leveled. >> carley: -- >> jim: it came out of nowhere because will has something inside of him. i was sickened by the standing ovation. i felt like hollywood is just spineless. >> what is interesting about that is when the question that gail asked, it escalated, suggesting as defense attorneys sign that the victim had some

role in the fact that there was a crime and this was a crime. >> i thought kerry was right about that spineless oscars, everybody sitting there and not doing anything. i don't know. yes, it escalated. i think everyone is looking at this the wrong way. that slap help save the oscars. the second lowest rating. it would have been the lowest rating for all time if it was not for everyone texting each other. i think you need to lean into this. i think they got to make the oscars more like real housewives. celebrities who don't get along with each other, get them drunk, have you drew grace host -- wreckage or faith host it. the movies have turned into bumper stickers for political identity. no one is going to the movies. the great movies are not being

rewarded. >> piers, it doesn't violence like this, no one even tried to stop him, doesn't that become normalized? i think we got to get some perspective. there is a meme doing the rounds and president zielinski is on the phone saying, will conduct i heard vladimir putin insulted your wife. it brought back to meet prospective, gave the guy a slip because he thought that chris rock was deliberately mocking his wife about a medical condition. chris rock said, i did not know she had llps but -- alopecia. >> you think words are justification for violence? >> piers: no. you cannot condone violence in

that situation. but i can understand why if you are will smith and remind, to down jaded -- jayda pinkett smith when he hosted the oscars and that was in i'm sure the mif what was going on. we got to -- really? standing ovation. the oscars crowd gave roman polanski standing ovation led by meryl streep after he was convicted of being a pedophile. harvey weinstein and his cell has got his oscars. the idea we are going to take away. will smith's oscar and i feel sorry for the williams. let's kick some perspective here. he said he should not have done it. i kind of understand the thinking that led him to do it.

>> carley: there's a reason we don't question that motivations and instead decide a case based upon the facts and whether or not a crime was committed. he says that it is not indicative of the man that he wants to be. this is what will smith said. are we so in love with the character or is that the real smith? >> the real smith looks like a real monster and his brand was about as -- this guy was the rock. he was glute. you talk about a q score. this guy was about as warm and fuzzy as christmas. so he took this and this guy gets slimed on nickelodeon. children like this guy. and he destroyed it with one slap. i don't think junior is going to

watch him and think highly of this guide. >> what does jesse junior thing? >> he said, listen, sticks and stones will break my bones. >> i'm ashamed of what you just said because you of all people should have thicker skin. if someone makes a crack about you and you are that successful and your wife was sitting there and she is that successful -- >> piers: i interviewed jaiden pinkett smith. will smith set in the shadows looking -- lurking. i now know what he man. i said, he mentioned this. what would happen. let's be honest. if that was us at you had a medical condition and some guy rebuke in front of a gazillion people at the oscars, how would you have felt? i just said, that it would have

done exactly the same thing. violence is never the answer. the polls show the majority of americans —-dash. >> i interviewed harvey art her yard -- harvey weinstein one time and i asked him, do you take any responsibility for any of your violence that you put in your films? he answered and he left and he came back and he grabbed me right here and he said, don't you ever dare ask me a question like that again. those reveal themselves. >> piers: would you ever slap a man? >> over a joke? no. >> i'm good. >> i will take care of the slapping. >> all right. >> and his son said that is how we do it. up next, the brand-new book.

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♪♪ get your shine on ♪♪ >> this book is officially on sale today. go to foxnews.com/books. shannon joins us. congratulations. what is one of the things that you learned? you know a lot about the bible and i'm curious what you learned in this process. >> you know what it is like to get into that research and get into writing and it can be all-consuming with all of the things that you enjoy. but for me, it really was this labor of love because i was reminded about these stories that i thought i knew about. and i came away really encourage because the bible does not sanitize their stories. there are some with real struggle, real destruction and pain and struggle and i thought the last couple of years, everyone has gone through some measure of that. but to see held god was working in each of these situations that

he was guiding and not unaware of the suffering was encouraging to me. i got to know all of these women better. and i hope readers will feel that way, too. but the encouragement i got was the greatest gift. >> you got something? >> i'm so happy that you did this. your last book was great. i was fascinated with the fact that you saw the parallel between the images that you're seeing in that ukraine works and what married the -- mary the mother of jesus, it went through. >> sometimes we forget that they were in danger. and god came to joseph and said, you got to win. so here they aren't, no goodbye parties. they are literally in the middle of the night, grabbed what they had and took off because a madman was after that. i was reminded of that in watching these courageous

ukrainian families. mothers grabbing whatever they could, packing up their children, trying to get to safety, flooding across borders with just the clothes that they could grab and i loved the other side of that that these polish mothers left empty baby carriages with clothes and supplies on them, reminding them of the humanity of that when we are in these dark suffering places and just like mary was on the front with baby jesus and god knew every one of his struggles -- her struggles, i am convinced that he is in our lives and watching that ukrainians do what they have to do. >> piers: i was struck by the fact that ukraine is probably the most christian country, over 75% identify as christian. when you read their back and you thought about the parallels of ukraine, what message do think that ukraine people can take?

>> shannon: again, that god is our present. we know -- everything that as human beings we will suffer and even torture and what he went through is -- and not some of these families that are fleeing ukraine and enormous personal loss. i have been instructed by the hearing from missionaries and people working in that region on both sides of the border and we have gotten videos and texts showing people gathered in the subways and in basements, singing hymns together and finding great comfort and strength in that. what an inspiration that they are clinging to the most important thing. it is completely unsettled and unstable. >> i will turn you over to greg. >> greg: i was going to say, what's up?

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>> jesse: jesse jr. took his first steps yesterday.

let's see the videotape. there we go. >> greg: looks like me on a saturday night. [laughter] >> jesse: definitely you on a saturday night. >> we have proud of jesse jr. walking like a champ. >> we have, very cute. tonight "jesse watters primetime" we have piers morgan. kayleigh mcenany. piers did man on the street. he lived to survive it. we will be tuning in for that. >> dana: i want to give a shoutout to justine. she served army corps. first of 25 wac to land in the philippines. she was on the intrepid. and was awarded the philippine liberation medal. turned 100. three children, eight grandchildren and 12 great grandchildren. congratulations justine. >> greg: there you go. judge. >> judge jeanine: 14-year-old boy by the name of jackson williams has his eye on the prize.

running for governor in vermont. he doesn't live in vermont. he is only 14. but the law allows him to. >> jesse: he has my vote. >> greg: i like the plant in the back, too. that's it for us. coming up, "special report." hey, bret. >> bret: by jesse jr. >> jesse: thank you. i taught him everything he knows. >> bret: looked good like greg on saturday night. have a good one. good evening, welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. breaking tonight russia's military says it's fundamentally cutting operations near ukraine's capital and one northern city. president biden is skeptical saying we'll see. pentagon officials saying it's a repositioning, not a withdrawal from that area. the announcement comes as russia's troops remain bogged down and peace talks continue in turkey. today ukraine outlined a framework under which it would declare neutrality in exchange for