9:00 eastern time, don't miss my exclusive in-studio interview actor sean penn. he was in ukraine when war broke out. he's been working on a new documentary highlighting zelensky, the country, etc., etc. he'll be in studio with us tomorrow night 9:00 eastern time. set your dvr. never miss an episode. laura's next have a great night. >> laura: i'm laura ingraham. this is the ingraham angle from washington tonight. race clowns rush in, that's the focus of tonight's "angle." now, liberals today think that americans, especially white americans, are pretty much the worst thing out there. in other words, anyone who doesn't sign onto the view that america is fundamentally racist and evil, expect them to be called a white supremacist and publicly vilified. for example, according to a new book, biden assessed fox news as one of the most destructive

forces in the united states. and reporters jonathan martin and alexander burns write that biden was even more critical of fox corps patriot robert murdoch saying murdoch "was the most dangerous man in the world." think about that. think about what that really means. more dangerous than putin, more dangerous than xi, more dangerous than kim jong un. ok. and as the "angle" has told you many times, today's democrat party believes conservatives are a far bigger threat to america than the biggest dictators in the world. we warned you about this. remember, more evil than the dictators that have nuclear weapons pointed at the united states, and, well, we were right. now, but some people require more direct proof. now, let's take the case of andrew sullivan, the supremely talented writer and well-known commentator who wrote the seminole book for gay marriage and is extremely anti-trump.

perhaps he thought that his withering criticism of trump would have earned him fair treatment as a guest on a show hosted by the ever-snarky jon stewart. but he was wrong. instead, formerly insisting that the story of america is not one of irredeemable evil, he was annihilated. here's how it all started. jon stewart paying homage to the race gods of the blm movement. >> the problem with white people. for however sincerely we want to reckon and listen, the truth is america has always prioritized white comfort over black survival. black people have had to fight so hard for equality that they've been irrepairable set back in the pursuit of equity -- either rep ably set back in the

pursuit of equity. any attempt to repair a ton of that damage, reparation. it sets off white people. they're coming for our [bleep] law. >> the panelist went along and they themselves hit the buttons saying white supremacy is alive and well in the united states. andrew sullivan hit back and defended america. >> it's very hard to agree with some of the very premises that are being expressed tonight. as if everything is already settled, we know this country s for example, a white supremacy -- is, for example a white supremacy. i don't believe that. i think it's possibly the most absurd hyperbole. i come from -- i'm an immigrant. i have a slightly different view of this. i can tell you america in 2022 is the most multi-racial, multi-cultural, tolerant, diverse melting pot that's ever

existed on planet earth and there's no other place on earth even like it. that's why 86% of our immigrants are nonwhite. >> let me ask you a question, andrew. >> laura: all reasonable points, all well-expressed but not to the other panelist a woman named lisa bond who makes a living lecturing other white women will how racest they are -- about how racist they are. she was deeply offended a white man would argue that the u.s. is not systematically racist. >> this is what happens when you don't talk about it. this is what happens when white people don't talk about it, is you have racist tropes like this that perpetuate, perpetuate and perpetuate, so i am -- and i did not come on this show to sit here and argue with another white man. that's one of the reasons we don't even engage with white men at our center, because quite

honestly, if white men were going to do something about racism, you had 400 years. you could have done it. ok? so -- >> i'm 58 years old. >> i'm shutting you down right now. >> i'm not responsible for anyone before me. >> laura: he said i'm not responsible for anyone before me. that's a trigger warning. >> we have an awful history. it's -- its remnants -- >> we also have a great history. >> but i think you're minimizing it, because -- >> i think by calling today white supremacy, you're minimizing actual white supremacy. >> andrew, you're not living on the same [bleep] planet we are. honestly. i really don't think you are. >> i think you're not living on the planet most americans are which is why this kind of extremism, this anti-white

supremism is losing popular support, is creating a backlash and will elect republicans and undo a lot of the good you think you're doing. >> laura: he might have asked stewart, a graduate of william & mary f stewart burned his old diploma and soccer jersey because the college was built in part by slave labor and some of its presidents owned slaves. >> i don't care if we say we're progressive. i don't care if we're literally members of the kkk, every single white person upholds the systems and structures of white supremacy and we have got to talk about it. >> if i could finger snap, i would finger snap right now. >> you'd be finger snapping by calling me a racist, jon. >> you've been doing a pretty good job with yourself there so -- >> laura: yeah, so that's where we are in america.

that woman has passed off as some type of expert in anything, and you're a white supremacist or a racist if you don't agree with jon stewart that immigrants shouldn't be blamed for slavery. this is the ongoing scam of the anti-racism movement. they get paid handsome sums to tell corporate and academic audiences how awful to the core they all are and they now have thousands of accolades across country who are also eager to cash in as well. or who like stewart just enjoy the moral superiority they feel by calling everyone else a racist. so if you refuse to buy into the ally shift -- don't you love that word -- and the privilege lingo, if you refuse to say you support reparations, you are as despicable as any slaveholder from the early 1800's that's what they believe. you think i'm exaggerating? post out what jon stewart mosted

on his twitter. >> the problem with white people is everything. >> the whom with white people is the mechanism that has pop up to protect privilege anytime race, equity or racist systems come up. >> i eat, i never owned slaves. >> the real problem with white people is how deeply entrenched. >> laura: jon stewart is blissly unaware. he needed to have the whole situation be like a three against one. then he tagged him as a white supremacist. and he's the same snaring prig who 18 years ago lectured the host of crossfire on cnn about the need for more respectful, more informed discourse. well today, he's just another race activist, desperate for credibility in an america that as andrew said is the most multi-cultural, multi-ethnic

that it's ever been. he and almost the entire democrat party radicalized by the fringes rail against the old pernicious practice of red lining while they essentially hope to red line their political opponent. and instead of trying to win over america first populous or independents like sullivan or someone let's say like a glen greenwall, they try to destroy them or make them so toxic that they can't even make a living in any mainstream setting. again, these people see no logical inconsistency in the fact that the ccp is still active on twitter while trump, maybe someone like sullivan is banned. in fact, they're fine with that. they have to ban trump. they have to investigate him. they have to hope to prosecute him. put him in jail. anything. anything but debate him. and try to defend their abysmally horrible record running our schools, our cities and the country.

and that's "the angle." joining me now is the ceo for the center for american liberty. .great to see you tonight. anything you want to own up to as yourself a first generation immigration to the united states that jon stewart and other race clowns don't come after you? i know there's something you must have to say to the audience. >> you don't have to be white to be i think pillared as white adjacent in today's america. i suspect they would call me names as well. but like you say in california, we're debating reparations in our state for the descendants of slave that will affect me as a taxpayer, the daughter of a refugee from british partition in india. it makes no sense, laura, but this is not a coherent framework in which to view american history. i think andrew sullivan was exactly right. the history of our country includes slavery, but it also

includes well-meaning people of all different backgrounds coming together to eliminate that shame from our country and it happened a long time ago. and so, you know, laura, though some of the people who are watching this may be surprised to see this extreme example of race huxteris m and demogoguing white people but it's actually been the case in america in corporations for a long time now. we've seen american corporations starting in silicon valley and to the board rooms of new york and finance explicitly shame and degrade white people and white men specifically and then also asian, because they're overrepresented in the population of successful corporations, and so people have silently nodded and had to swallow this for a long time. that's why you see a whole audience of people clapping at an obviously absurd debate between four white people talking about racism in america.

>> laura: this lisa bond character, part of the group that goes around and gets paid to host dinners for all white women, she said "i'm shutting you down." she's honest about the fact she doesn't want to hear another point of view. this is more from her, one of the stewart panelists. >> this system of white supremacy has done such a good job of teaching us as white people that racism is bad. i know i'm not bad. i think i'm a good person. i think i'm a nice person and i know that i am racist, and i know i'm racist because i every single day uphold the systems and the structures of racism. >> laura: your response to that. she gets paid quite a bit of money, her group, to go around and saying things, circular logic condemning herself and then trying to hold her self-condemnation up as some type of moral badge of self-reckoning i guess.

people are like are you literally out of your mind? >> well, laura, there's a very simple explanation for this, you know, jibberrish coming out of this woman's mouth and it is green. the color is green. it is money. it is because these race hux ters no matter what their race is, are getting paid tons of money. this woman and her partner charge white women $2,500 for dinner to hear themselves shamed and degraded and humiliated. it's the new form of kink. by the way, the only consumers of this are rich, white people. so, you know, there's no amount of money that could legitimize this, laura. it's really a spectacle. it's kind of sad to see jon stewart get this battie, battie chick a platform. we're hearing in in board rooms as well.

it's not ok to hear this. >> laura: it's not ok for these men, sons, brothers, uncles and fathers, for them to be treated this way. you don't want any person of color to be treated this way. you don't want any person that's a non-minority to be treated this way. everyone has to say this is ridiculous, you must stop and we won't submit to this any longer. mitt romney, big shock, joined senators lisa murkowski and susan collins to support brown jackson's nomination writing in a statement jackson is well-qualified and more than meets the standard of excellence and integrity. harmeet, nevertheless, the people of utah know mitt romney voted against her court of appeals' appointment last year. what changed? isn't it pretty -- i mean, isn't it pretty obvious when it comes to the second amendment, religious liberty, she'll be voting with sotomayor and the left and is that what utah, maine and alaska want?

bye-bye gun rights? >> the only thing that changed, laura s we know a whole lot more horrifying things about the background of this judge. for anyone to double down and say she wasn't qualified to be on the d.c. circuit but she is qualified to be on the highest court of the land for decades is truly shocking and a repudiation of the voters of utah. he's up for election in 2024, and i hope that a good republican stands up or many stand up to run against him and that the voters of utah are finally represented by someone who shares their values. not this carpet bagger imposing his woke ideology on utah. >> laura: can you believe he was the republican nominee in 2012? i supported him. >> i supported him. i went out there and campaigned for him. i'm embarrassed of it. >> harmeet, we have to roll. thank you for coming on tonight. >> title 42 is in effect right now. illegal crossings are happening right now and in broad daylight. this is del rio sector over the weekend. we repeatedly witnessed massive

illegal crossings. the sector is seeing a huge surge in activity. on saturday alone, dhs sources telling us del rio sector had more than 1,600 illegal crossings including a 45-minute span where they had more than 200 people cross illegally. we're told the del rio sector's numbers have now reached more than 200,000 since october 1st. that represents a 179% increase over the same time last year. >> laura: my next guest, i'm delighted he's with us, don mclaughlin, mayor of uvalde, texas. mayor, really good to see you. in addition to that ridiculous increase in illegal crossings, we're now learning about this new ice memo buzzfeed news got its hands on allowing prosecutors to outright dismiss certain cases if the migrant didn't cross "recently." whatever the heck that means. what -- you're a town of what? 17,000 people? i know from reading what is

happening there you guys are being absolutely overrun by these my brants in your town, but your -- migrants in your town, but your reaction to all of this tonight. >> this administration is -- i mean, i don't -- they're out in left field. you and i have to obey the rule of law. if we break the law, they're going to come to arrest us. we'll be punished, yet we'll reward these migrants coming across the border and they were here and broke the law and now we're going to drop the cases and let them run free? are we going to do the same for american citizens on these same types of charges? let them go free. if it's good enough for the migrants t ought to be good enough for american citizens. it's ridiculous this administration points illegal immigrants that cross our border illegally, they have greater rights than american citizens. >> laura: well, i think that's a lot of people that are wondering that today. i mean, i mean, is it -- what's the point of having american citizenship if, indeed, people who the first decision they make

is to violate our laws, get a free bus ticket and they get a monthly stippen. they get all sorts of help from catholic services and lutheran services and parents are wondering how to send their kids to school and afford fuel and food these days. i know you're also dealing with this surge of dropoffs in uvalde which i read about just a few days ago. 8:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m., you guys are getting bus lodes of people dropped off from the border area. tell me why that's happening, mayor. >> well, i mean, the simpler reason, we're fortunate they've not dropped any off -- you picked it up on the news today. you've been hearing about it and the news cameras have been here. it they're ready to film them being dropped off. why it's happening is there's so many people at the border, it's out of control. these agents are good, hard working men. the administration is pulling

them out of the field. they're have to go and process these people and they have no place to put them so they want to send them to places like uvalde, crystal city or. [indiscernible] springs and we're not equipped to handle these people. >> laura: are you going to file a lawsuit, mayor? i know you were considering that at what point? >> we're looking at every option we can. i mean, we're being forced with a public safety problem here, a public health problem way and humanitarian -- problem and with a humanitarian crisis this administration does nothing about this the county judge had to take money from our citizens and hire buses to haul these people from uvalde because there's no public transportation here for them. >> laura: where are the migrants going? to san antonio? >> they're going to san antonio. on the conference call the other day with san antonio, they said they can't handle more than 600 at a time. and the federal government when we asked them on the same conference call what are your plans? they don't have one. >> laura: this is just criminal. mayor mclaughlin, i hope you file a lawsuit and get help to

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>> laura: ok. you want to know how bad things are for the democrats? according to the politics average, 27% of americans think the country is headed in the right direction. who are those 27%? like jeff bezos maybe? he's made a lot of money. joining me now is newt gingrich, fox news contributor and former speaker of the house. i'm going to ask him about this new theory about mitt romney and what he might be up to leading into 2024 given his vote for judge jackson. newt, before we get to that, the reaction to this entire deal with what biden is trying to do with the country, the democrats' plans is to just go full steam ahead. there's no recognition that maybe it's time to tack to the

middle or work with republicans on some of the issues like the border that we just talked about. it's just full steam ahead on leftism. >> well, look, i mean if you regard what we're seeing as basically a secular religion, they don't have any room to negotiate. they can't, you know -- what they're doing they think, oh, they are sort of divinely inspired by their own brains, they can't back off. we were warned about this in 1972 when he said the liberal ideology had become a liberal theology. that's 1972. it's all gotten worse. it's all gotten sicker. donald trump was exactly right. in michigan the other day when he pointed out their transition on transgender is virtually insane. they'd have children doing things that might be not reversible. they clearly place transgender above women.

they're destroying title 9 in women sports. they have policies on the border, policy on inflation. peter of the democracy institute just did a survey in which he asked the question, which would do more to help america? biden leaving office or putin leaving office? and by 52-43, the american people said biden leaving office was better for america's future than putin leaving office. i would think if you're a democrat, that number would be very, very sobering, but it doesn't seem to have any effect. >> laura: no, yesterday, newt, hillary clinton had a fascinating insight about the mid-terms. >> i've always thought the best politics is doing the best job you can do, and there's a lot that democrats can talk about in this upcoming mid-terms. i'm well aware that mid-terms are obviously always difficult for the party in power, but we've got a great story to tell, and we need to get out there and

do a better job of telling it. >> laura: newt, you just do better story-telling, newt. that'll make everyone feel like they have more money in their pockets. >> oh now look, i would challenge hillary why doesn't she stand at a gas station and tell people her better story? why doesn't she go to a grocery store and tell people her better story? this is the kind of nonsense! why doesn't she go and talk to some of the women athletes who are currently seeing themselves being crowded out by transgender men who clearly have unfair advantages? i think hillary is totally out of touch with reality. between a cognitively challenged joe biden and a reality-challenged hillary clinton, that's sort of the modern democratic party. >> laura: newt, finally, mitt romney announced, probably not surprising to you, he was going to support judge jackson leading myself and a few others to speculate that 2024 may be his

final revenge. he's going to be in trouble in utah after this vote given what it's going to mean for half of the second amendment, religious liberties and the state of utah, alaska, maine, but do you see someone like a mitt romney perhaps running as a third-party candidate? especially if president trump is in the rice to win it again in 2024? because -- to win the race in 2024? because clearly he's possessed by trump, as so many people are, and like liz cheney -- >> look, he wouldn't be surprised to see mitt run in the republican primaries. i think he's more likely to run for president than to run for re-election to the senate. it's a free country. i think he's got every right to do what he thinks is best, but i think you clearly see massachusetts values in a utah senator, and i think that is probably not sustainable. he probably can't get reelected when you got come down to it, so he's probably better off to go

out in a blaze of glory running for the president one more time. >> laura: good, we'll be happy to see that. newt, great to see you, thank you. last week, we told you about a stunning new hunter biden report detailing how he was paid millions by a chinese energy company. this weekend, the white house started pushing a new narrative. >> the president's confident his family did the right thing, but, again, i just want to be really clear, these are actions by hunter and his brother and are private matters that don't involve the president. they certainly are something that no one at the white house is involved in. >> laura: jonathan turley, george washington law professor and fox news contributor, joins us now. you claim this ignores considerable evidence to the contrary. explain. >> first of all, one could take consideration to the statement that they're confident he's done nothing wrong. that's something the president has stated over and over again since the campaign. no matter what happens in the delaware grand jury, there's no

question that what hunter biden did was wrong. i mean, he was engaged in influence pedaling, perhaps one of the largest influencing pedaling schemes we've seen in washington, which is considerably a long list of examples. but influence pedaling can be done legally, but it is corrupt. it is perhaps the most damaging form of corruption in washington. this is how you influence influential people in washington. you give money to their siblings, their spouses, their children. and that's what happened here. now, the question is is there more? does this violate the criminal code? clearly the u.s. attorney's office thinks it might have. there's a long line of people still going into the grand jury. now, the statement that this has nothing to do with the president

simply ignores reality. i mean, the president is referred to in many of these e-mails. and while the press has agreed that the laptop is legitimate, they have really tried to avoid talking about what is on the laptop. and those e-mails refer to the president under code names like celtic and the big guy. in one e-mail, a person is told not to use the president's name. but there are plenty of details there involving money that may have gone to the president to pay for expenses and an office that was allegedly being arranged for his use and the first lady's use. those are all connections. but the biggest connection is that this was an influenced pedaling scheme, and he was the object. he was the reason people were giving millions to these various firms to his son. and so it's bizarre to claim that this was an influence pedaling scheme where the object

was entirely irrelevant. >> laura: at the very least, and i mean the very least, it's an obscene appearance of enpropriority and a conflict of -- inpropriority and a conflict of interest, correct. at the very least, flying on the government plane and 10 days later getting a business license. just on its fact, prima fascia evidence of a conflict at the very least. jonathan, real quick. >> what i'm baffled by is how the attorney general garland could continue to deny the need of a special council. you cannot investigate this without stumbling over the president repeatedly in these references. that's not saying that the delaware u.s. attorney won't do an aggressive and independent job, but i've never seen a better case for a special councils. >> laura: -- special council. >> laura: great to see you, thank you. a member of the biden family speaks out on joe biden's run in 2024 and zelensky crashes the grammys.

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>> laura: it's time for seen and unseen segment where we reveal the stories behind the headlines. for that, we turn to raymond arroyo, our fox news contributor. we hear a lot about hunter biden, we were just talking about him, but the president's sister, valerie, i understand she's making the rounds. >> she's got a new book, laura, called "growing up biden." you'll remember the first center, rand biden's multiple sen-- ran biden's multiple senate campaigns, everything but 2020 which she was paid handsomely over the years. she runs the biden institute in the university of delaware. they don't disclose their funding sources or executive salaries. we checked. when asked about biden's gaps including his call forpetten to be removed from power, she defended her brother this way.

>> when anyone says a gap, the gap means that he speaks the truth. >> did she hear the president this weekend, laura? >> i'm deeply proud of the work she did as first lady joining forces. she started with michelle obama when she was vice president and now carries on. >> michelle obama still vice president in his head, laura. maybe he's confused because obama is coming to the white house tomorrow. >> laura: she looked like nanci pelosi with short hair. there was something in the eyes. i don't know what it was, but they look very similar. she had that weird hand gesture thinking that nanci pelosi has. she looks like nanci pelosi. >> she does favor nanci pelosi. valerie biden chimed in on the prospects of joy joe biden's re-election. listen to this. >> do you want joe biden to run for president again in 2024? >> yeah. i think he's the right person at the right time for the right job, so watch us. he'll be in his 80's.

watch him. he's got the stamina to do that. yes, he does, yeah. he's good. >> he's good. >> laura: she doesn't even believe it. >> this is the president today, ok? looking a little less than rigorous and sounding, well, you'll see. -- vigorous and sounding, well, you'll see. >> what do we do now? programs allow inspiring drivers to learn while earn while they learn. an awful lot of well-known people also, the idea -- i remember i'm going to -- i'm going to digress for one second -- i, um, i got a commercial license. >> laura, if this is good, i would hate to see mediocre or bad. there's a reason the poll numbers are cratering. it's not just the gas prices. >> laura: was it me or did pete buttigieg look a little too eager, eager leave it to beaver

standing next to him like salivating, ok, grams of, it's my turn next. >> he's testing out the podium. >> in last night's grammys, laura. i have to mention this, my new orleans homie, jon baptiste took home five grammys including best album. the most surprising performance may have come from the president of ukraine. >> our citizens wear body armor. the music will break through any way. i had a dream of them leaving and free. free like you on the grammy stage. >> free like you on the grammy stage. i spoke to a lot of people today, lashra b this, who -- laura, about this, who while they sympathize with the ukrainians, they thought in the middle of the war this ran therific of trivializing what was happening. it was almost like a performance and trying to connect it to the grammys, i mean, bridging genocide and doja cat, that's a bit far to me.

your reaction? >> laura: all the video and pictures coming out, i -- it's so -- it's heartbreaking -- that's not the word. it's horrific. awful. it seems -- i guess, trying to reach anyone who -- i can't really blame him. he wants to reach as many people as he wants, but he did -- his voice did remind me of someone else's, and i'm trying to remember, but he does have a very -- he's also an actor, so he has that very -- >> well and to remind you of that -- yeah, yeah, it reminds you of that in a time when -- you know, we should be all focused on what is happening there. the reality there. >> laura: the lady gaga tribute to tony bennett. >> she should be congratulated to her kindness to tony bennett. she adopted this frenetic stick cato side-crooning style when she sings the great american songbook. this is from last night, look

it's an odd approach. it's an odd -- it's almost like a spoof of the style it reminded me a bit of the martin short character, jackie rogers jr., do you remember that character? >> laura: i don't think it looks anything like that raymond, we have a big announcement. wahlberg and mel gibson. >> mel gibson will be together exclusively here on wednesday. >> laura: we're looking forward to seeing that and lady gaga, good for highlighting someone with real, real talent. raymond, thank you. conservatives have never been a party of boycotts but when it comes to disney, dr. ben carson is not sure where to go

from there. carson is here next on his attempt to radically sexualized our small children.

>> two agendas. two agendas. ain't nothing but men and women. you can't transcend god's creation. i don't care how hard you try. we're dragging our kids down into the pit of hell trying to teach them that he is in our school. tell you like this, that ain't got no place at no school! 2+ 2 don't equal transgender it equals 4. you need get back to teaching them how to read instead of teaching them how to get to hell! >> laura: that video went viral over the weekend. it's not hard to understand why. they're teaching young children as young as five about transgender. that didn't stop disney from put

the full weight of their company behind trashing a bill out of florida, putting a stop to this. joining me now is ben carson, neurosurgeon, former secretary of housing and urban development under president trump. what could be done here? >> well, you know, this is very disturbing development. disney used to be oriented toward family learning and entertainment. i'm hoping historians will look back that the president and said they temporarily lost their minds. we don't teach kindergarten, first, second, third graders calculus. there's a reason we don't do that. they're not ready for that yet. we have to late foundation for that. and -- we have to lay the foundation for that the same thing when it comes to sexualizing individuals. these children are not ready for that. they need to learn their basics, their abc's and they need to learn some of the basic socialization processes, not confusion about gender and

things that make absolutely no sense for a youngster. and our society -- go ahead. >> dr. carson, sorry to interrupt but i want to get your thoughts on what maryland's very liberal governor larry logan, nominally republican, he obviously didn't read the florida bill but he weighed in nonetheless. watch. >> i didn't really actually see the details of the legislation but the whole thing seems like just a crazy fight. once they criticized disney for expressing how they feel about that bill i mean, they have every right to, and we have the thing called freedom of speech. they can come out and say what they think. i think the bill was kind of absurd, and not something that would happen in our state. >> laura: the state of maryland. he's probably right about that, but he doesn't obviously know what is in the bill. he's mischaracterizing it by implication. >> well, the whole thing has been mischaracterized. they called it the "don't say

gay" bill. it has nothing to do with don't say gay. it has to do with presenting to -- or preventing people from presenting complex social material to children who aren't ready for it. anyone who looks at it and reads it carefully would agree with that, but so often people take things and distort it. they use different words to describe it, and those who have not studied the issue are easily deceived thereby. >> laura: what about african-american voters across the country seeing their prices for everything go up? unemployment was lowest under trump. obviously life is pretty good financially for more people under trump. what are your views on this? >> well, ones i've talked to, african-americans aren't stupid. and they are recognizing that their children are being

corrupted by some of these things and some of these policies and you see a lot more african-americans at various conservative rallies now. i used to go and be the only one. now i see plenty. that means people are waking up all over the place and we need to look at what our american values are. >> laura: dr. carson, it's great to see you tonight. you have some bad throat. i hope you get some tea and honey tonight before you go to bed. it's great to see you. come back soon. shockingly joe biden didn't have the most awkward moment in television today. who did? we'll tell you. hold on.

>> it's national hug a newsperson day. >> i heard that. >> to give each other hugs. hug it out right now. >> oh. oh. i didn't know that. wow! >> air kisses. >> i didn't know we could still hug on tv like that. >> well, that is true.

don't come hug us if you see us on the street. >> laura: that was very genuine, i think, national hug a newsperson day. ok. didn't 90 know that was a thing. -- didn't know that was a thing. all the proceeds for the month will be donated to the special opts warrior foundation. amazing organization. "gutfeld" is next. >> this is a fox news alert, i'm live in lvyv. global outrage over the mass killings on buchya on the outskirts of kyiv. in a late-night speech, zelensky stressed the importance of seeking justice. >> necessary jurisdictional basis is being provided to bring culpable russian troops to justice for every committed