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kayleigh mcenany. also joining us today, kennedy and bret baier. yesterday president biden hosted a health care event featuring former president barack obama. unfortunately he was a lot like that totally unpopular kid in high school who spent the bulk of it alone as he tries to get someone or even any want to talk him. watch. musical -- >> the music was the icing on the cake. the cool guy in the room was president obama. is everyone crowded around him, president biden try to get in on the conversation. everyone involved, including its own vice president, kamala harris, just seem to ignore him to the former president looking like he's blowing him off.

he might say the whole awkward tone was set at the beginning of the event with this joke watch. >> president biden, -- that was a joke. [laughter] that was all set up. >> oh, bret baier, it's a new definition of cringeworthy. >> it's not something you would think that the white house press staff facing low approval ratings across the board would want to set up. it sort of like the cool guy coming back and rubbing it in the face of the other guy. it may not have -- they may have just been light and joking about things but the video right there is not a good look for

president biden in a time when he's trying to rally the base seven months out of the midterm, and figure out what the story is. he said we have a story to tell come unfortunately the story is very complicated and does not fit on a bumper sticker and is not getting a lot of approval. >> that's right. yet kennedy president obama tried to reduce it to a bumper sticker when asked what with the message be fervent democrats that are concerned about the upcoming midterms. >> it is said of democrats worried about midterms? >> he has he says we have a story to tell we just have to tell it. it's at one of his historic inflation in stock skyrocketing gas prices? border security. that's what all americans care about, kennedy. >> you bring up a good point

about border security. it's april. when we get into maize when we really start to see the surge of people. we haven't seen those numbers up because right now we are still battling high gas prices. harris did a brilliant job of breaking the subject down. we've got a 40 year high record inflation. we are on the brink of the third ward world war appeared all of these things, not voting well for the president and the poll. i don't understand what they were thinking bringing someone back who is an iconic and popular figure in the democratic party who just makes everything buddy in the room cry, longing for the days when they felt like the president was cool. they are all suffering from buyer's remorse. even the vice president, who is definitely trying to distance herself, she's doing her best to stand as close to the former president as she can.

so she comes off cool by loose association. she just looked like one more fan in the crowd. biden try seems to have been discarded, forgotten frankly by the media. after he was elected and they didn't want him running in the first place, resigned himself to the fact that he was the best that was around, they were sycophantic in their coverage of him. now the tables are turned and is it any wonder why? >> jan, i may look watching joe biden, and the president walking through the east room it's almost as if you should replace god bless america what the song all by myself, i believe many people date on social media. it was sad to watch. if this man wasn't destroying our country. it comes down to this, mla, presidents have different policies. obama is very different then

trumpet every president has the it factor, and x factor. go back to bill clinton. people who have met him say when you are in the room with them one on as if nobody else is there. president george w. bush, down to earth. president obama, he does have some rock star a factor i. my former boss, president trump, i watched him indirect with constituents, he is magnetic, he's charming, he is engaging. president biden was this person who in his national coming out, this was his national coming out. he was sequestered in a basement. people got to make him whatever they made him. he was the acceptable alternative. you just have to wonder what is like at the world stage in these high stage meetings. it's really sad. i don't think this is a leadership we deserve. he lacks the qualities that every president before him in the last four decades had. >> i wonder what such a stark

contrast from this event -- if now this will be the point of no return. i think we frankly had reached it sooner but i wonder if now the media had to cash if they going back to 2019 when they said don't run, please don't run. then he all of a sudden -- the adult is back in the room. there was this escalating course and now such a frank disappointment. when the former leader walks in the room and it's like oh, my gosh, the breath of fresh air we have been missing a pair of the charisma, the leadership, the anything new. perhaps now we will see an even more fast and more rigid plummet. >> i don't want to give the former president that much credit. i certainly don't want to give the media that much credit the toggle to something that is real for them, right? he's not going to be a part of the white house, barack obama. he barely helped biden when he was running. he got in late in the summer. i mean these two may wear

friendship bracelets on instagram but i don't think they were much more before the picture was taken. so noy don't think it's going to happen like that. i think biden will continue to feed the gaffe machine and the press is always there for that. they may want to be sycophants but they like a good laugh, they like a good party. they are also apparently drawn to whatever it is that is got them all jumping off the ship. i don't want to overplay that too much because i realize every administration loses people on their staffing. what's happening with kamala harris in particular is something that they will continue to at least lean and on. especially when you have people like simone sanders lately, your national security advisor. then you potentially may see some of that coming up with the president. there's going to be some shift when jen psaki leaves. my big thing was something that you hinted at, kayleigh, and it's your expertise.

what is going on with his commerce department? you and i were at the national press conference a couple months ago with the former deputy -- or with current deputy press secretary. they have a press team, they are there. we know they are working and doing their job, but my goodness, who lets the president wander around the room mike waldo? >> this was really bad. i don't think i said it well enough at the beginning. it was heinous. the image of that is just getting picked up. in this environment you cannot have that happen. it cannot happen. i think i'm a harris, you are right to point out the magic of former president obama is in democratic circles. he campaigned a lot to try and get him across the finish line in virginia -- he campaigned extensively with stacey abrams, so i don't know how much this is going to help joe biden.

in fact yesterday did not help. >> that was the point i was making. within the democrats are color seems to be in adulation and adoration for the prior leader. it seem like they've really mustered up that same false adoration, or fleeting adoration for president biden. i think he is sorely disappointed most americans but frankly is own party. they are quite happy to eat their own. the question is who's neck so they can put in the spotlight coming up republicans are demanding answers on what exactly the president knew about hunter's business dealings has new emails have come to light. stay with us. with no down payment. and they're holding rates in the 3s. already own a home and need cash? with the newday100 loan, you can get up to $60,000 or more and lower your payments $615 a month.

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>> there are growing calls for a

special counsel to look at hunter biden's business relationship that what president about them. this is new emails reveal joe biden rode a college recommendation letter for the son of hunter's chinese business partner back in 2017. the white house is still insisting that the president never spoke about his business dealings and claims hunter is innocent. listen to this exchange between peter doocy and jen psaki. >> so to ensure the independence of the investigation the importance of a special counsel. >> well first the president has never had a conversation with the department of justice and to any member of his family. he said that during the campaign and he will continue to abide by that. speak of the president has said that he never spoke to us on about his overseas business dealings. is that still the case? >> yes. >> okay. so he never spoke about his son's business dealings except the are five very quick data points i will give due in 30

seconds so pay attention. the burisma executive in 2015 thinks hunter biden in an email -- joe biden pictured with devon archer -- hunter told "new york magazine" i hope you know what you're doing. he said i do pin number for there is the 2013 air force to a trip that hunter went on, met with chinese executives 12 days later, register it with a new investment opportunity. then bob linsky, hunter's business partner, says he personally met joe biden. five data points, however we are assured president biden knew nothing and did not speak to us on. >> the one thing that the president better hope happened as hunter biden investigations are treated the same way donald trump's or any other are treated. otherwise not only will this not go away his son tends to make mistakes. i know his father is the gas masked or but's father's gonna make a mistake. it's not that long ago when he was moving around, but things

are going to start coming out in some of the dash some people are being pulled to. now the chief of staff are present by not one point he works for the vice president biden went to hunter for thousands of dollars cash and said keep it on the low key because were going to put this into a presidential fund that ron klain was running then. none of it may be illegal, some of it may be very unethical. all of it is distracting. all of it needs to be explained. there will be potentially more of it as the investigations go forward. he had better hope the president -- that they really begin to make this look like anything everything it can be so that when it's overrated is over. otherwise pop your horn. they may be digging deep but not deep enough. then we'll see another one, another one, another one, this could go on.

it's big the stories seem to be popping. "the new york post" editorial board posits tests, they are saying it is time for special counsel. they said specifically it would've been standard procedure to hold off making headlines in the run-up to the 2020 vote. but the license than likely came at the order of central justice, namely attorney general merrick garland and his top aide. that is where we start about the finger on the scales of -- it's to accept a plea bargain and all the evidence is gathered no matter where it points. >> right pair to what they are arguing is essentially two arguments for why there should be a special counsel. why it needs to be removed under the purview of attorney general merrick garland and have it be separate. number one is actual conflict of interest, number two is perceived conflict of interest. with a reference there was actual. when there is a delay that's because for example the subpoena for his chinese records, that

goes back to 2019. why are we just know it hurting right now -- it's because of some undue pressure occurring. we know for example of the cabal between the white house on the department of education. we know there was a letter written that essentially forced the ag to write that parents are not going to be the target, the subject of sei investigation that was walked back. they are pointing to these obvious conflicts of interest for they say how can we trust the attorney general and his team to be objective? then that other one in 2012 he himself was asking for donations from hunter biden. then the perception of one, that's where i was talking about yesterday. when you're exploring these allegations of money-laundering, improper lobbying, and proper receipt of money, and the like. by association by necessity of connecting the dots it is impossible to imagine that the president, the father of hunter

biden, would not in some way be named in these documents somewhere when his uncle is so populous in there as well. so what is the perception and what is the actual? that is what the post was getting at. >> there was some reason why ron klain thought that hunter biden would be a good person to go to for some cash money. i mean why not look into a deeper? why not disqualify some of what is out there that has become a distraction for this white house? because when they talk about it they are on script. you know that's because no mistakes can be made. >> of course not. you know, brett, harris mentioned the rob mcclain story. foxnews.com broke that story. they also broke the story about the college admissions letter when vice president was out as a cop private citizen. my point is that this is all within a week or two weeks. the story is not going away. >> no it is increasing.

i think it is increasingly evident that it may be untenable for the white house and merrick garland to avoid appointing a special counsel. aide may be that all of these references -- on the slightest one, the letter about the son of the chinese executive bhr to a college admissions letter that is written by joe biden. he's referenced in the email saying here's the letter that joe biden writes, let's see if we can help chris -- chris is the son of the chinese executive. this is direct references. there are other references. at some point he is called delta, at other points he's called the big guy. there are references about what he's getting out of bed. it's impossible to avoid this. we could've started this back in 2020, but now that there is increasing media coverage it's getting untenable. >> it is paired to the point of the college admissions letter, 2017, it's inconceivable for me

to think that joe biden in a private citizen would not ask why do you need this letter. it's beyond the mind -- >> you know in 2017 he is considering a run for the presidency. never say never. everybody knows that. you completely undermined your own defense. i understand that he is defensive for his own child. that's not the question. the question is not does hunter biden like character and good judgment? yes obviously. he did not use production when having marital relations -- >> oh my. it's only noon. >> that's why i use soft language. >> clearly has challenged in the judgment department. but what did dad and uncle jim

know? i think a lot more that's why other news outlets are now forced to investigate the way miranda devine in the new york -- >> chitosan much influence does china have in this process? that's the bigger political question. >> look at where we are paired were leaning on china not help but russia. while we lean on russia did not do a deal with the ram paired we need to know. >> kennedy makes a good point out why the white house categorically -- it's a dangerous place to be as a communications person. you are not privy to every conversation the father ever had with his son. i think that will -- coming up. actor and filmmaker sean penn is back from his trip to ukraine and spoke to sean hannity about it is time spent with the ukrainian president zelenskyy and what he says the biden administration should be doing.

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about his interview about his time in ukraine interviewing a documentary about president zelenskyy and his forces there. here's what penn told hannity about what the united states should supply ukraine with f-166 fighter jets. >> this could happen tomorrow also. we could get f-15s come x extends to comply those. we know that not from sean penn, we know that from the california national guard who has had a year exercise training with ukraine and where there with ukrainian aviators just shortly before they were pulled out, because of the politics and the policies are related to this impending invasion, now invasion. >> it could not have been easy to be on the ground but i don't think he considers the fact that it's not just us who are worried about that bring us into world war iii. how does the rest of the world, like russia's cohort in china, how do they look at us giving f-16 fighter jets?

that might matter. >> i think that is true. i do think as we see more atrocities and more images coming from ukraine, that there is more impetus for some of these countries to step up what they are doing. whether it's weapons, whether it is meg's, you're starting to see some of these countries like romania, bulgaria new contracts with the u.s. for updated planes. does that mean they are in the process of sending there a make 29 steel crane? we don't know that definitively. but it sure sets up like that. i do think there are countries that are going to be doing tomorrow. it may not be they u.s. >> kennedy? wise and sean penn talking about the u.s. fang a more active role in brokering peace and humanitarian aid? i don't necessarily trust -- i like sean penn come i think he's a phenomenal filmmaker and a great actor. i loved into the wild, the film he directed with emile hirsch

based on the excellent john krakauer book. having said that, i don't trust his analysis and expertise in this realm. i think that we should be pushing for peace harder than anything. i'm actually surprised that sean penn -- that that isn't his driving narrative. >> i'm right there with you, kennedy, in terms of gaming at out and seeing how to gatsby putin to the negotiating table. when i see people at the table being poisoned it's -- when they come together, like putin is willing to poison his own negotiators, i just don't know that we can get there. certainly not in a hurry. >> and ukrainian officials have told us there are stories of 10-year-old girls being violated, swastikas branded into bodies, this is gruesome, brutal war crimes occurring across this country. if i could focus quickly on zelenskyy's speech to the

united nations where he boldly called out the united nations and saying rush is no different than isis. here it is done by a member of the united nations security council. russia is on the security council. china, who is committing against the uighurs, leaving the birthrate in that region decimated, they are on the security council. the united nations is a body that should be discarded. they are doing nothing to proffer peace. we have the united states, the hegemonic power of the world, we are doing nothing except sitting idly by and being active just now. >> one thing i really liked what he said was about the leadership of president zelenskyy. he said zelenskyy is the face of some of the eight ukrainians. we touched on the thing that we talked about which is true leaders don't often show their true colors until they are challenged in an unpredictable way. you can campaign all you want but until you are really tested he might not know what shines

pretty went on to address that insight is not that she could not of know that he would be able to rise up. he said this is leadership that we are aspiring to. this is freedom of thought and true leadership that is just so moving. i hope that there are others in hollywood who have the influence he does and the advocacy he does purely socially they subscribe to that. i think what he is also saying is the inverse is something we lack care, which is true leadership. >> he did get el chapo cot, that is something. >> okay. i think the book that you wrote, the title of it commit for such a time as the spit i think of zelinski when i see that title. >> hard operational time -- he's proven himself a true leader is one that we can all look at as an example for our own country. >> can i just say one thing? the biggest worry is is the page turns the chapters closed from the west. he's worried that this will just all disappear and ukraine will be fighting russia for the long term.

>> why do you think it would play out like that potentially? or what he think he believes that? >> he believes russia is getting images not leaving. if you cannot force them out, that all of these peace talks are just kind of hedging until russia gets a position where they can regroup and fight again. >> you heard what mark milley said, he talks about this for potentially new years now. maybe not in decades, but measuring it in years. >> does death by a thousand cuts that ukraine is undergoing. i think president zelenskyy is wondering when somebody is going to come in and help stop. otherwise it's just one bite at a time. >> the white house extending the pause on student loan repayment through august now. the lawmakers on both sides of the political aisle are furious over this interestingly enough progressives not happy with the extension of student loans. stay with us. veteran homeowners, need cash? at newday you can borrow up to

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speak of the nation is "still recovering from culvert." republican senator tom cotton is going after the president's decision calling it an insult to every american who responsibly paid off their debts, adding that there is no free lunch. however, some progressive democrats such as senator sanders and representative alexandria ocasio-cortez and ayanna pressley say the move doesn't go far enough. they don't want to extend the student loan debt, they want it wiped away. they say it should be canceled. brett? >> this is a battle. the progressive side of the party wants and erasing of student loan debt. you're talking about $1.6 trillion pair that money has to come from somewhere. then you're talking about all of the people who have paid their debts, who have worked hard, who have worked double-time boot to actually pay off student loans.

>> do they get a refund? >> how is it fair to those people? at what point does not cycle stopped as the republicans point of view. for the democrats, you have chuck schumer who is trying to have it both ways, to forgive $50,000 in student loan debts because he believes that he's got to at least touch the progressive rail because he may see a challenge from alexandria ocasio-cortez in the senate race in new york. who knows? >> that is so gross. i said this last hour, kennedy, you can take whatever people want to do. but when they are fake and funny like that it never works for them. if he is that a performative demo then schumer is not going to be at her. i think biden is going to have a big problem because this is just like issue one of the thousand that is not going to be able to move the progressives on. >> it's interesting. it was his own transportation secretary, pete buttigieg, who pointed out when he was running for president that two-thirds of the country who don't have

college degrees shouldn't be paying for the one-third of the country that does, that will -- over their lifetime because they do have at least four year degrees. there's also no accountability for colleges and universities to keep costs down. so as long as they are getting free money they will charge someone more of it. it is probably going to be the federal government, they are going to steal that in taxes from working-class people who are destined to play the brunt of this torture. so it's a bad system, it needs to be completely refined and key progressives out of the conversation. they are rationalist when it comes to this. and because they made bad choices the rest of us shouldn't be on the hook because they went too expensive, private schools and got worthless to graze. >> we get that nugget we get you calling him pete booby judge.

>> also had again. >> i know you well. emily. >> i think this the wrong how much the progressive need to be plugging. they need to be addressing the hardworking americans who have reserved support on the basis of policy. it is the independence they need to woo back. they don't need to woo back these progressive academic students that will resign themselves to voting for them come or that they can woo back their proxies like aoc. they need to address, via policy come all the stuff we keep talking about. inflation, the value of the dollar, what they are going to do for jobs. that they are actually an administration for all americans. that would go much further. >> so why do you think they are hooked on trying to do what the progressives want instead of doing what emily is talking about, that is fixing some of the problems that affect everybody? >> because of the election. this is an olive branch to aoc and she just threw it back in president biden's face. aoc has come out and said you're not doing enough. you're going to lose the young

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>> after president zelenskyy ripped the united nations, the general assembly will vote tomorrow on whether to suspend russia from the union's human rights council. will comment on whether the u.s. should establish more permanent military bases in eastern european nato nations. all of that plus the daily briefing terry john roberts, join sandra smith and me at the

top of the hour for america reports. see you then. >> the last time stacey abrams ran for governor of georgia her personal finances were a mass bid she insisted just because she was hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt because of student loans, credit card debt, and back taxes, it should not be held against her. still, she lost the race. now, less than four years later, her fortunes have changed big time. abrams just disclosed that she is worth more than $3 million. brett, it does seem to happen this way. you run for political office, you end up making more money. however, i would note this is much different in that she's not in public office. she did this on her own time as a private citizen. >> sure. i think there's two pieces of hypocrisy here. one is that she got a lot of success by refusing to concede the governor's race back in 2018. then obviously democrats lambaste. any trump republican the brings

up concerns about elections. she spent a lot of time making success off of that. however, on the flip side there is hypocrisy that republicans can't lambaste somebody for success, giving speeches, writing books, making $5 million. then turn around and say you can't tax those folks at exorbitant amounts. you can't do this. you can't hurt success. so she is doing at the american way, it's just that she's done it on a platform of refusing to concede. at least in the beginning. >> i think that's a great point, emily. >> that's exactly what the federalist society has argued in an article i published where said the reason she all of a sudden made $6 million within four years of being $400,000 in debt is because it centered on this bogus concept that she has turned into a celebrity status pair cheats a body of work she's created has been deposited on the fact that she called that

election painted, and that it was resulted in the disenfranchisement of thousands of voters. so essentially because she has cried election fraud that has all of a sudden turned her into a figurehead worth millions bear the whole point is that it's based on a false premise. >> , by all means -- i'm all for going to the private sector and make as much money as you can. it's the american dream, that's capitalism. my problem falls with this flashback. they said this, last week flashback to the mlb all-star game. we all remember this. last week it was reported that stacey abrams political action committee has earned over 100 million inner gubernatorial race. incidentally, georgians lost 100 million when the mlb moved there all-star game. stacey abrams has pocketed to protect the people of georgia. >> welcome a look, really interesting about that is the

fact that she missed it on so many accounts. those are mostly black-owned businesses that got crushed by the mlb going to colorado. you did see her sort of cleanup on aisle five with well, after the boycott that she called for maybe that wasn't the right thing to do. well it was too late then. by the way, she was wrong on another account. it turned out that colorado's election laws are much more strict than those in georgia. she booted the all-star game and let it take all of its millions. what was it? 100 million? took that to another city in colorado and then nothing was replenished in her own home state in georgia. i don't know if her pack writes a check to the citizens for everything a lot they lost, i think that 100 million falls short. some of those businesses did not survive. >> you cannot repay people for something that's not there.

i do know the neighborhoods in which this happened. lies, the landscape of lives were changed. i would love to hear her speak on that. i don't see that as a topic. but maybe there is more that she can do to help those private businesses that she harmed. whether she meant dead or not. >> just like stacey abrams -- her sloganeering, which can be incredibly hurtful. i do not begrudge her her private wealth. i agree the taxation is theft and i don't think she should be overtaxed right out. you think she made a lot of money when she lost the govern governorship here just wait till she loses again. she's going to have so much money she is going to be able to buy amazon. >> i think it's going to be a

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>> getting address >> fox getting aggressive on capitol hill, but a wild animal got everyone excited, too close for comfort for a california congressman. he bit him in the leg, you guys. the fox was eventually captured by d.c. animal control and the congressman was given treatment for tetanus and rabies as a precaution. bret baier, i love this story so much. >> it's not a -- only going

after democrats, california congressman is back to work feeling fine. but chad says according to officials there may be an stolk of foxes on the ground, and that is the accurate term, several foxes together, they skulk up on capitol hill. watch out, fox alert, not a fox news alert. >> kennedy, he is a doctor, and he told fox news about his encounter with the fox skulking from the larger skulk. >> felt something lunge at the back of my leg, i thought it would be a small dog. and like that's not a dog, that's a fox. i'm glad i had my umbrella in my hand, squaring off holding the fox and then somebody is like hey there's a fox attacking that guy. >> i love the color commentary,

from the nimble congressman, to the wiley fox. >> i was relieved it was not peter doocy. i was worried after i saw the first media matters headlines, and to bret's point, the fox was unfair, unbalanced, still unafraid. >> and harris, this fox meant business. he did not go uninjured. >> representative bera sent a picture of the bite holes and he was wearing like a nice suit, he has to get more rabies shots now. he's back but a whole series of these. this is a commitment now because the fox decided to take a bite. >> animal bites are serious, we are joking, but they need to be taken seriously. >> remember when i had the pet squirrel that mistook my finger for a peanut, i had to get shots. treated and transported, they are not hurting him.

>> we had all kinds of predators over in the west wing, you walked out, where all the reporters are, you know, in their various network tents and squirrels, one time a cnn correspondent was confronted live on air with a racoon, handled it extremely well and took on the racoon live on air, interesting television to watch. but i love how the capitol police had to warn of aggressive fox encounter, please do not approach them, like if people would pet it. >> capitol fox twitter account, i found so funny, quote is they mock me in songs, they wear me in clothes, hunt me down in my home, for what, i ask you, i was forcibly removed from my den by very scary individuals, and this is not the end, i am a work in progress. kennedy, what say you? >> it's the will smith of foxes, so, well done.

quite a performance. and now he gets -- >> gets an oscar, a cage, and hopefully returned to another skulk where, bret, you can report on him from your bear den. thanks to everyone, now here is "america reports." >> sandra: fox news alert at the top of the new hour, president biden speaking on the new sanctions just announced. let's listen here. >> bodies dumped into mass graves, sense of brutality and inhumanity left for all the world to see, unapologetically. nothing less happening than major war crimes. responsible nations have to come together to hold these perpetrators accountable and together with allies and partners keep raising the economic costs and ratchet up the pain for putin and further increase russia's economic isolation.