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with the first version of it. he's evil. neil: that was, of course, former president of ukraine now indicating today that he thinks it's a waste of time this constantly having these peace talks with the russians when they don't abide by any of the things they say they're going to do. he had a message for the. pete:, zelenskyy, maybe we keep up the good fight, and we give them a good bit of hell. he's coming up later on in this broadcast, an exclusive interview with the man who back in 2004 was poison by vladimir putin, darn near died, with a message for the world today. this guy couldn't be trusted then, why are we even considering trusting him now? welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. happy weekend. we are on top of a number of developments including the aftermath of that attack on an eastern ukraine train station that has killed at least 52 people, injured hundreds and a

good number still missing with families trying to find out where their loved ones were and are. remember, this was an exit point out of the country to find safer locales. a lot of those people ended up dying on that safer locale can. in the meantime, we are also looking at u.n. and worldwide reaction amid at least a commitment by nato countries to provide much heavier military equipment to protect ukrainians and also bring up the fight. let's go to alex hogan in lviv with more. alex. >> reporter: hi, neil. the words for the children, that was spray if painted on one of the missiles that struck a train station, and children were among the dozens who were killed just trying to escape. we know that hundreds others have been wombed. the death toll continues to rise as families search for victims who were trying to escape in the eastern side of the country. russia, however, denies all of

this, pointing the blame at ukraine. but those who were there at the time say that it was an instant scene of horror in what was a quiet railway station turned into what looked like a battlefield with bodies laying across the ground. >> translator: i remember a really loud noise and there was something landing, shells or rockets. everybody hit the ground. that's all. a nightmare. everything starts to burn. everyone was panicking. >> reporter: now, while russian forces have cleared out of the north, there are new, alarming discoveries of what has taken place there. ukrainian officials say the russian troops destroyed decades of chernobyl's data. keep in mind the chernobyl nuclear disaster took place back in april of 1936. other -- 1986. other countries are stepping up with sanctions against russia, more support for the ukrainian people. slovakia donating an s-300

system to ukraine to support the country's military capabilities. meanwhile, in turn the u.s. will send a patriot missile defense system to slovakia. looking specifically at this one town, bucha, outside of the capital where we have seen horrific sights, one priest says there was just not must have time to bury all of these people with honors, and the many maas graves are the only place they can put them. a new dark discovery in an area another town outside of the capital, ukraine's ministry of defense accusing people of war crimes in a town outside of kyiv. the town's mayor there saying that the bodies of 132 people have been found. they were brutally tortured according to the mayor. again, he is calling for sanctions and condemnation against russia for what he calls distinct war crimes. neil? neil: thank you for that, alex. be safe. following these developments in he sue is, ukraine. we're getting word right now

that president zelenskyy is meeting with british prime minister boris johnson in kyiv. you might recall yesterday boris johnson and the leader of germany indicating that much more equipment and help is on the way to the ukraine including some of the heavy military equipment that the ukrainians have been asking for and demanding to give them an edge with the russians. so, again, keep you updated on the progress of those discussions. again, this at a time when the ukrainians have said that the sooner we get this weaponry, the better we'll be. it's one thing to commit that weaponry but another thing to get it when we most need it, and they say we need it now. a youtube sensation arguing on behalf of her country and the plight of the ukrainians, elin -- elena, very good to see you. we're told that heavy military equipment is, indeed, on the way. i'm sure you welcome that not

only for ukraine's sake, but with your family and their safety's sake. >> yeah, thank you for -- it looks like slowly the west understands what's going on, and this is very good sign for us. we do not have much time. putin wants everywhere -- [inaudible] bucha, and we just don't let the right to have bucha happen anywhere else. you see how cruel they are. it is just awful. we have to decide do we want ukraine to win or lose? if we fight, if we want to win, let's do it, yes? let's do the most of what each of us can. neil: the russians have disavowed this attack on the train station to the point that they weren't behind it. now, we recognize the missile that landed on train station, but they said yet again that they're not targeting civilians

even after these attacks on hospitals, on theaters, on shopping malls. what do you make of that? >> they were always denying their crimes, and they keep committing their crimes and saying it wasn't me. this is the way they act always, and it will keep happening. they will attack. i mean, they attack and say it was us. they just keep denying anything, and it's impossible to -- one journalist asked my 7-year-old what would you want to say putin, and she said i don't want to talk to him because he is just lying all the time. and this is a 7 years old child. she already knows. neil: you know, that reminded me, id had a conversation with your former president, victor

you schoen sew -- you schoen coe, who was so angry about this latest attack. he says it's a waste of time to talk to the russians. >> i agree completely. and i keep talking since the start of the war, putin is just a criminal. he is a terrorist, and and he will keep terrorizing the world. and he will keep, you know, threatening -- you guys over there in america do, you know? he will just keep threatening and keepizing until -- terrorizing until he is stopped. he just needs, you know -- whatever, it's pure evil. the other guys with him, that is pure evil. [inaudible] neil: were you disturbed when you heard the foreign minister of russia was talking about this issue of chemical weapons and using them in your country?

he didn't deny that russia could think of it and would think of it, and he did attack a center of your country where such tanks and materials were housed with the clear impression a lot of military folks that it was meant to do harm to ukrainians in the area. but saying that they weren't his weapons, russia's weapons, that they had been, you know, attacked and, obviously, fumes released but that is still an attack. does that concern you now? >> well, of course it concerns me, but it doesn't surprise me. in my shelter i have -- in case of some chemical attack. i don't think it will help me, but we are prepared for this. we know that this can happen. is anything new? if russia already did it in syria. if they allow -- to kill,

torture and rape children, whey do you think they cannot use chemical weapons? chemical weapons is something even less horrible than raping children. so is it a big surprise that russia can use any chemical weapons here for us? neil: how are you, if you don't mind a personal question, so many people in our country have struck a chord many in how impressed they are with your resilience in helping your children and just being a mom and also in the face of war, how are you holding up in how are the kids holding up? >> we just have no choice, you know? bucha is only 20 kilometers away from my home. i feel happy and relieved that they stopped -- hard to explain.

well, this is the war that we didn't want, that we didn't choose, but it has happened, you know? we, all of us in ukraine, we have found ourselves in the middle of this storm. and i guess you feel the same, yes? we -- nobody wanted this to happen, but we have what we have, yes? and there are three options that we can get. we can run, we can fight or we can leave our lives. so my husband, he has chosen to fight, so he joins the army. i'm kind of trying to fight with the help of information as much as i can do, and i guess my children decided to fight with me, with their mother like this. other people decided to run away, and thank you very much for helping them. now it's up to our politicians to choose what we're going to do

the men in bucha who didn't choose to fight, they were killed, shot with their hands tied. so it's up to each of us to decide, yes, what to do in this situation. neil: incredible, olena. it's just so powerful ever time i talk to you and the reaction i get after i do, the words seem empty, but you're with amazing, your family's amazing, your country's been amazing. please stay safe. olena gnes, the ukrainian mom as she's been called world wild, she has -- worldwide wide. she has put a face on this horror unlike very few imma'ams could. we have lieutenant general boykin with us right now. secretary, her bravery, she's a soldier in this fight, if you think about it. and the whole country is dealing with this onslaught of horror that seems to get, you know,

more horrific by the week in this late train station attack that the russians say was not targeted at civilians, nor are they saying they're responsible for it in the first place. what do you make of all this? >> first of all, i think olena is the epitome of courage by people that are in an almost impossible situation, and i very much appreciated everything she had to say. the other thing is, and i think that what we're seeing is we're seeing a period of uncertainty here for the ukrainians as well as for the russians, and i think the russians are not sure what their next move should be. i know they focused on the east and they want a land bridge and all of that, but i must tell ya, they've lost enormous casualties. and i think they're scrambling right now to be able to

replay -- replace those casualties and get back in the fight. and if they didn't learning any lessons from their previous 45 days, then i'm not sure that there's going to be any different. the ukrainians are going to continue to kill russians and especially if the united states and its allies will get the lethal material in there as quickly as possible that they need to include mig 29s, then i think that what we're going to see is we're going to see, ultimately, we're going to see a war of attrition that is going to affect a heck of a lot more russians than ukrainians. neil: real quickly, general, when you talk about the massive casualties for the russian military, we're told that 15-20% of the number of troops mobilized which could work out to about 20,000 dead russian soldiers. that's stunning. what do you think of that? >> well, even putin has said they've taken heavy casualties --

neil: right. >> when he says heavy casualties, what does that really translate into? just what you got through saying. it's enormous. they went in with no expectation of anything, anything near that number of casualties. so now they have a replacement problem, and that's why they're reaching out to these what i would say are absolutely mercenaries. clearly mercenaries, chechnyans, the syrians, i think some even out of africa that they're looking at right now. and they're going to paw 'em a reported $-- pay 'em a reported $1200 a month. well, you know what? that, you know what those people are going to do? they're going to perpetrate incredible war crimes. neil: i hope you're wrong on that, general, but you've been pretty prescient about a lot of this. general boy kin, thank you. we are falling other developments hear including right now -- in-- here including

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neil: all right, i'd like to take you up to space for a moment, if you don't mind. this is the docking of this private space crew, a combination of spacex and two private space venture firms. spacex, of course, run by elon musk. these four astronauts, all very con sense consensual businessmen and women, who we're told paid upwards of $50 million even for this link-up, spending more than a week conducting scientific research and outreach programs, all this stuff before returning to earth. but this happens, you know, a little more than a couple of

weeks after a u.s. astronaut returned home via, you know, hitching a ride with two cosmonauts on a soyuz spacecraft, and that was after a little bit of anxiety that the russians didn't want to give him a ride home because of the ongoing frictions. they did give him a ride home, but this might be a sign of the future of things to come, that we don't need to depend on the russians. all of these guys were privately launched, they'll be privately returned. they're all obscenely rich, they can all pay for these experiments many times over. but this is the future of space flight. so keep an eye on that. we are also keeping an eye with closer to home on what's happening at our own border. lucas tomlinson taking a look at developments right now that could get more worrisome as we get closer to about the third week in may. that is the important date, right, lucas? >> reporter: that's right, neil. earlier today on fox a

republican congressman whose district in texas covers about half the border with mexico voiced his frustration about the white house's border policy. >> a year plus with the biden administration, you know, hay won't listen to anybody, they don't really care about what's happening on the border. it's terrible to see, you know, my communities are on the front lines. >> reporter: president biden's decision to end a pandemic-related public health order that has turned away 1.7 million migrants over the past two years has many in congress curved a flat flood -- concerned a flood of migrants are come illegally. the health order's known as title 42 and dates back to a world war ii era public health law in 1944 that gave the surgeon general, later the cdc, the authority to stop migrants from entering the country during a pandemic. -resurrected at the height of -- it was resurrected at the height of the pandemic. at least eight democrats have signaled they support it. our own peter doocy asked jen

psaki here at the white house why migrants are given high-end smartphones, in fact, after being detainedded. >> peter, as when we talked about in the other day, what i noted to you is we have a range of means of tracking individuals who irregularly migrate to the country in order to insure that they are meeting their notice to appear obligations and that they are appearing in court when they should appear in court. phones is one of them. >> reporter: president biden is here at the white house, he travels to wilmington later today. right now there are no plans to visit the southern border. neil? neil: lucas, thank you for that. appreciate it, by friend. we know the great comeback in american cities is on as a lot of people return to work after covid, but a number of new yorkers, we're told, on this issue of going back to work, their biggest worry wasn't covid, it was crime, so rampant that 6 out of 10 new yorkers said they'd rather just leave period, leave the big apple.

my next guest understands why and is dealing with it front and center, runs a jewelry to operation, a store in manhattan but is having a devil of a time finding customers because so few have returned. the owner of new york city fine hand-crafted jewelry. shane, very good to have you. maybe tell us a little bit about some of the problems that you've been having not with your jewelry, but with people coming in to look at it and buy it, right? if. >> well, you know, it's not a secret that since covid crime, every new yorker feel it all around the city in every borough crime went up. in our business because we are a vendor, then we are doing a different market. so these days we definitely feel we need to be more alert and watch our back and watch more customers. and the same time hope that

people will come visit the city because the rumor about the crime going up here is -- people know what's going on here. i have friends overseas that ask me how are we going here. and as a new yorker, i see crime. so i'm also concerning that maybe tourists will think twice to come especially when they stay around midtown and midtown doesn't look beautiful. when i go to 47th street, you know, i see what's going on there. i'm scheduled to be in the month of may three weekends at a big market at bryant park, and it's going to be for mother's day weekend and going to be there for three weekends, and who knows how it's going to be this year. last time they did it was in 2019, but it was different. it was pre-covid, so so it was a different vibe. the city was, looked different,

the vibe was different. it was packed with tourists. people felt secure. and if me as a new yorker doesn't feel secure, i wonder about somebody come visit the city, you know? you hear the stories what happens in the subways. i'm pretty sure every person. by now, in the last couple months somebody stole something in the subway -- neil: no, you know, it is bad, and it's interesting, shay, you mentioned midtown new york, that was the one area not too long ago that was spared a lot of the crime we saw in other parts of the city. but that's the jewelry district as well in manhattan, and a lot of people frequent that area but not as many now. i'm just wondering, when you hear authorities say, yeah, you know, these videos we're showing, they're pretty bad and, you know, a teenager attacking a 76-year-old woman and almost killing her as her friend looks on and laughs, these are the exceptions, that it's really not

that bad. so when you hear them say that, what do you say? >> well, i feel them, you know? if because, like you said, i'm in the jewelry business, and when i bring my jewelry, it's stories that pop up. i don't leave my jewelry overnight. i usually pack if -- two hours earlier and just take every out. but i sleep good at night. and i know my stock is safe. but at the same time, when you pack your stuff, my bag is always close to america i make sure in the past holiday season we were at union square, and i knew the -- might be tricky, and i brought extra sales people so we gonna have extra, you know, set of, pair of eyes just to look and make sure there's no incidents, you know? holiday market for over a

decade, obviously first years we had some incidents, but that's part of the experiment. you're learning how to deal. and as much as i've been selling on the streets of new york for almost two decades now, when i started my art, i started on the street since that was the cheapest way to start things. but, you know, but things changed for me, and these days i can tell that i'm doing less events in the city. most of my event now are more in the fine arts fairs of westchester, new jersey, connecticut. different clientele, safer. neil: all right. >> you have to buy tickets to get in, so i know it's, for me, it will be safer, you know? neil: that's the thing, you've got to be safe, and you want your customers to be safe. i understand that. >> yeah. i want new yorkers to be safe. neil: right. shay, keep us updated on all of that. again, to shay's point here and this seems incredible for a lot of visitors to this town, it's

not covid that's freaking people out, and a spike in cases even in the city, it's just crime because that spike has never gone away, not even remotely. all right, we're going to go halfway across the world right now, take a look at some joint military exercises, curious about the timing featuring polish soldiers with american soldiers. this was all well poland, i'm told. but, of course, it's raising eyebrows at this particular time because what do you think's right next door? well, as alexis mcadams can tell us, that would be ukraine. alexis. >> reporter: neil, that's right. we'll take you up close and personal so you can see exactly what's happening on the ground here in poland. they're happening not far from the ukrainian border, and that's why the polish minister the of defense says it's showing that their military is ready for whatever comes next, and nato stands united. i'm iowa will lex sis mcalso also, we'll have more on that story coming up next.

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putin is conducting an anti-human war. it's an anti-how many -- [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: and his army is the same way, it's anti-human. we want to live, and this is the essence of the conflict. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: he's killing us ever day. to sum it up, whatever happened today, the atrocity that happened today is happening every day, every single day he is doing this. neil: all right: the former president of ukraine, victor yushchenko, you'll catch the full interview in the next hour, kind of echoing the agitation of the present president, zelenskyy, on all this aid that has been promised. they welcome it, but they are still waiting for it. now, a good deal of it has come in but not nearly enough, and

especially some of the heavy equipment that nato vendors and allies have promised. it's there but it's the not there in ukraine, and that's what worries them. more on that in a little bit. in the meantime, what's going on between poland and the united states with these joint military exercises mere miles from the ukrainian border. alexis mcadams on all a of that. >> reporter: neil, good morning. that's right, we had a very up close look at these nato training exercises here in southeastern poland at this training facility where we were able to see the military in action. that included the u.s. army and the polish military. their head of their defense here in poland telling us heir doing everything they can to strengthen their military to prepare for whatever happens next including any potential aggressors. listen. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: we want the army to be prepared to immediately stand up for the defense of our country if there is such need. and were aware of the threats to

our neighbor's country. >> reporter: right now hundreds of troops from the u.s. 82nd airborne division on the ground in ian poland, and that training we're talking about looks like this, very intensive training there with the polish army by their side is firing heavy a artillery and teaching tactics on the ground. that growing presence near the ukrainian border is a strong message to vladimir putin. these also showcase javelin anti-tank missiles that use thermal imaging to lock on a target and open fire. thousands of these have been sent to ukraine, and this week the biden administration announced an additional $100 million to send more of those javelins and krones to the -- drones to the ukraine. the polish defense minister says these weapons have been key for the ukrainian military.

>> translator: we are proud of the rockets, and as it turns out, these projects -- rockets have significantly supported and developing the defense capabilities of the ukraine troops which bravely fight against the russian troops attacking ukraine. >> reporter: the polish military say they want these exercises there for the world to see, for moscow to see that nato stands united. once again, very heavily focused, neil, on those javelin anti-tank missiles and some of the other new missiles and heavy artillery they were practicing with to show the world they're prepared. neil? neil: alexis mcadams, thank you very much. now to the polish ambassador to the united nations, kind enough to join us. ambassador, very good to have you. the russian media, the state media, is calling this a provocative the act, this joint with military exercise. what do you make of this? >> you know, in geopolitics, it's a security vacuum.

russia attacked ukraine because there was security vacuum in ukraine, so we cannot create another security advantage -- vacuum on the eastern flank of nato. we tried diplomacy, it didn't work, he stood up and aggressed over ukraine, so now we have to exercise the defense just to show him no way, this is not an option of the vacuum security on the ian flank. neil: -- eastern flank. neil: the british prime minister, boris johnson, is meeting with ukrainian president zelenskyy in ukraine promising her heavy equipment aid. i know poland has been looking at ways to provide aircraft and the like, but there's great impatience in ukraine not only reflected by mr. zelenskyy, but, of course, his predecessor.

this growing fear that it's taking forever to get to them. what do you think of that? >> well, all the decisions of providing equipment should be made as an ally decision. this is not the individual decision of the state, it should be a decision of us all. that's not the responsibility of nato, and i do believe we have to provide ukraine with all the equipment that is needed to stop this aggression because, unfortunately, so far as we see this war will be decided on the ground. all this diplomatic talks are not very much promising so far, so this will be decided on the ground. and we have to do -- for ukraine to win this war because the only face-saving strategy for russia now is to withdraw the traps and bring -- into justice.

[inaudible] atrocities that we see. neil: ambassador, does it trouble you when you hear of this concern among some western leaders including our president not to agitate this to the point where it becomes a world war? in other words, closely monitoring what might be the reaction of vladimir putin or that he could take a provocative action or something that he thinks is provocative and go into other countries, maybe even yours. what do you think of that? >> it shouldn't be the russians that define the situation, it should be us. we should dine the situation -- define the situation. and as we see, there are not red lines for putin. he changed this war from conflict into humanitarian catastrophe. he wants those in ukraine to surrender over the -- situation which is really like appalling and has not been seen since second world war in europe with refugees, targeting civilians, so on, so on, so we have to be

prepared for all the she scenarios, and we have to be in front of defining the situation and shouldn't let putin define what is -- [inaudible] what is not. as i said, this war can only be finished if russia withdraw their troops and bring -- to justice. neil: ambassador, if vladimir putin were to use chemical weapons, you know, you're right next door. do you fear that that becomes a game-changer? that poland would be involved, nato would be involved, that everything would change? >> we have to be prepared for this different scenario, but the fear is not -- in the times of war. we have to be strong and united, and we have to show the signs and signals of our common determination to provide everything that is needed, as i said, for ukraine to win this war. and this is the message for

today, no? do not fear of anything, just be strong. and we have to be strong. neil: ambassador, thank you very, very much and for all your people's generous the city, taking in so many ukrainians. 2.5 million at this count, it's stunning. polish ambassador to the united nations. by the way, we'll keep you monitored on what is coming of these talks between boris johnson and president zelenskyy of ukraine. more aid is being promised including that heavy military equipment that the -yard line ukrainians want to -- ukrainians want to take advantage of russian soldiers. better than 20,000 russian soldiers have died in this war. it is a staggering sum here. but, of course, there's been tragedy on both sides. the latest u.n. count, for example, that ukraine on the number of children killed, 176. we'll keep you posted on what's happening with this new covid

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in washington d.c. of course, you've heard about nancy pelosi and a key number of congress and women who have come down -- congressmen and women. but exactly how serious to is this? serious enough in shanghai, china, to essentially shut down that city it's been locked down. shanghai disney is closed, and that could be an indefinite problem right there. that is, of course, an epicenter for a lot of technology, activity and production. softbank, the big apple phone maker is out there, tesla had to delay a planned opening there, but how much of a threat is this, and should we be concerned about it? the infebruary chose -- infectious disease specialist senior scholar, doctor, good to see you again. i was reading somewhere that this is about 94% of the new cases we're getting even in this country. is it worrisome? should we be worried? >> i don't think we need to worry, but we have to be vigilant. ba.2 is the most contagious

version we've seen, but you have you have to remember that's a population that has a lot of immunity from prior infection, access to monoclonals and antivirals. yes, we're going to see cases go up, people are going to get infected, but it's unlikely to translate into hospital hospitalizations because there's a lot of dedecoupling that went on, decoupling that hasn't gone on in shanghai. neil: if you argue, it started in china, of course, extra vigilant about this, but a good number particularly in shanghai not vaccinated. i'm wondering if that's what's' made it a problem or are there other factors many. >> china has pursued this covid zero policy, but they also didn't vaccinate their high risk population, so that's why something like ba.2 which isn't causing a problem in many western cubs is -- countries is

a disaster in china because they haven't actually used the tools to make it much more manageable. now they're left with their same kind of recipe book of taking children from parents and using drones to spy on people, make sure they're quarantining. that's what they do when they should have been giving the vaccine all along so they wouldn't be this this situation. neil: what do you tell your own patients, doctor? many of whom are concerned should i wear a mask, should i get a booster, three, four shots? what a do you tell them? >> it's not one size fits all. i look at my parent, i look at -- at my patient, i look at what medical conditions they have, have they had a transplant, do they have cancer, all of that, and that figures into what i recommend. for people who are at high risk, inknew no-compromised, i think they should continue to wear a mask. but for a healthy person who's fully vaccinated, this is a much more manageable infection for

them. you have to base it on individual risk for severe disease, and that's how i talk to my patients about itful. neil: sounds like a good strategy. doctor, thank you for soming -- coming in on a saturday, sir. all right, off terra firma, go up into space, the international space station hook-up with the first all-private crew that will be up there for about a week, we are told. i'm talking about elon musk spacex crew joining up with another private space contractor. this stands out because the four latest newcomers and visitors to the international space station are multi-gazillionaires. they can afford it, don't worry about that, but they're doing a number of experiments here, and this could be the way we go in the future. they're handling a lot of media interviews and the like to say that space travel is back. it's just not the same cast of characters leading the charge. we'll have more after this.

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changes that elon musk's promises will and should be made at twitter. mike if gunzelman joining us now, i think he's a renaissance man. >> yeah. neil: help me get the sentiment. you know, he brings a whole new perspective to twitter. he's been a critic in the past about how selective it is and biased it is. i'm just wondering, when he addresses the twitter work force, what he'll tell them. what do you think? >> welsh it's interesting, neil -- well, it's interesting, neil, i'm wearing green today in honor of tiger woods. now, do i normally care about golf? not at all. but because tiger's there, i care. he brings all the eyeballs -- neil: where are you on -- [inaudible conversations] oh! there we go. >> but the point is, like, elon musk right now is a pop culture icon. he's gone up and beyond right now if that he is a force that

can't be denied. and right now what he's going to do is, it's interesting because people are worried, people are scared, especially those that are either working with twitter or those that that, you know, had free rein in social media because he's a wildcard. but i actually personally love it because he is going to be, he's championing himself right now as the savior of free speech. just a couple weeks ago, neil, he hated twitter. he was questioning it, he was saying they were censoring, you know, the whole thing. so what did he do? the ultimate power move by buying into it and now having, you know, a significant -- neil: yeah. and he's amazing shares -- amassing those shares as he was criticizing it. having said that, i always try to keep up with the times of what you and young people are doing. facebook, you guys abandoned it, then you went to twitter. now i'm told twitter is old foe by the, so what are you into now? >> here's the thing with

twitter, it sets the helines. you tweet one thing, especially -- headlines. elon's got 8ing 1 million followers. so what he says matters. he doesn't immediate media, he doesn't need promotion. what he tweets matters. just a couple months ago i was, like, please stop tweeting. now he is a headline maker. so, you know, he brought up the thing just a couple days ago about thed edit button which people on social media have been wanting for years on twitter. all of a sudden twitter announces -- neil: it happened. >> tiktok, of course, but twitter's definitely significant, absolutely. neil: i don't think what you're wearing is green, but i could be color blind. i do appreciate your perspective. thank you, my friend. always good seeing you, mike gunzelman on these fast-moving developments. also keeping you up-to-date with what's going on in ukraine. president zelenskyy right now meeting with boris johnson of great britain, the former president who has a tip for the

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echoed by my conversation with viktor yushchenko, the former president of ukraine and he was talking about the attack on a very crowded train station in eastern ukraine that killed at least 52 people, injured hundreds more, as a sign that things are going to get nastier there. and this, take a look. >> mr. president, i'm sure you're aware of this russian attack on a train station in your country, you know, scores are dead and it follows what seems to be more targeting of civilians. your thoughts on that? >> i could say the tragedy that took place today, literally in one second, now, many kids, many women were killed.

i think this illustrates the essence and the goal of this war a lot. putin puts on an anti-human war. it's an anti-human-- and his army is the same way, it's anti-human. putting death upon us, and we want to live. and this is the essence of the conflict. he's killing us every day as we speak. it was his policy that led to

fascism in his country. because we resist, we resist his policy that led to fascism in his country. and of course, we resist totalitarianism that comes from russia. to sum it up, whatever happened today, the things that happened, the atrocities that happened today are happening every day. every single day, he's doing this. neil: mr. president, you had said after the attack on bucha, that at that point, quoting here, compromise with russia is impossible. after this latest attack on this train station, do you still believe that? and do you still think talks that president zelenskyy still wants to have with russia is

worth it? >> if we're talking about the tactical russia in ukraine, the tactical putin, it's a total loss tactic, because so far they've lost on all the front lines in ukraine. putin thinks that he's some kind of a-- he needs to get actual victory of some kind in order to demand the negotiations, then we can talk and because of this, you know, this is the most significant reason for us to say that the negotiations on any truce, on any kind of a truce are impossible. they shouldn't be happening, you know, due to the current circumstances. neil: mr. president, back in the 2004 presidential campaign vladimir putin tried to poison

you, tried to kill you. do you worry for president zelenskyy's safety? do you think that vladimir putin wants him dead? >> yes, so far there have been several attempts to assassinate zelenskyy. there were certain, you know, diverse groups that went to kyiv with that goal, so this is definitely the signature and the handwriting of putin, you know. this could be expected of him. neil: so is that why you have said, mr. president, that you believe that vladimir putin is indeed capable of using chemical, even nuclear weapons, that this idea that he never would because it would be dangerous and risky for him as well, it doesn't -- it doesn't hold up, that he would do that. do you still believe he would do that, he would use those type of weapons? >> if he wins, if he receives

some minor victories, you know, something in that vein, then, yeah, the possibility of him using its potential is large, a high possibility. but if he, you know, continues losing and then, in his surroundings, in his circles of lives and the government internally, you know, people will probably resist and, you know, they will try to diminish that possibility of using the nuclear and chemicals. neil: you know, sir, one thing that comes to mind is that vladimir putin always likes to say he has the support of the russian people. there's one poll out this week, mr. president, that has him saying 70% of the russian people approve of what he's doing. do you believe that? or do you think that his support back home is collapsing? >> we're talking about the authoritarian regime here so,

you know, the terms such as social studies statistic ares relative terms and don't reflect necessarily reality. taking into account that putin holds the only available mic, microphone, you know, official microphone in the country, all of his political opponents are in prison. neil: mr. president, one thing that we've discovered is that right now, it's all about that support and whether it stays, and very little signs that sanctions or limits on business activity on russia have had any effect on him. how do you think he is continuing and paying for this

war when, you know, he has been sanctioned in almost every business and almost every prominent western power has cut ties to him? how do you think he's doing that? >> by the end, during march, putin received $34 billion u.s. dollars as a payment for experts of, you know, energy resources. ukraine during that time received only $1 billion, so, you know, when mr. zelenskyy is calling for the complete total embargo of the russian energy resources, the capital, any kind of trade relations or trade circulation, people exchange anything, anything in that vein, then it's actually from within our souls, from our

hearts, right, that it's indeed necessary and because putin is conducting two types of wars, one is a hot one in the battle fields of ukraine and another one is a cold one, you know, sanctions, related to sanctions. neil: sir, i know you have been concerned about the pace of aid, military aid and the like coming to your country. i know certainly president zelenskyy has. it's raised a question in some circles as to whether some n.a.t.o. members, maybe including the united states, are pulling their punches here, that they don't want vladimir putin to lose because a vladimir putin who loses will be a greater threat on the world. do you accept that? do you think there could be something to that or do you think it's just nonsense? >> so, i think some countries, some governments believe these days that in ukraine right now, it's not just the conflict of

ukraine versus russia, it's the conflict of the bigger powers, europe and u.s., versus russia. so whoever wishes the failure, you know, wishes for the failure of the west-- of the european policies, of the european strategies. western european strategies. and also, the second part of this is that there are several -- appeared several european countries that, you know, are basically corrupted by that import over russian energy resources into them and within the last 10, 15 years this has been going on. they're basically dependent on that part, you know, of putin's regime.

and it's a political corruption regime that is being implemented in several european countries in europe. the regime tolerates him. and this led to the following, that there was, you know, a struggle to come up with the unified position in terms of, you know, the strategy in ukraine. you know, especially in the first days after the invasion started. there was no solidarity. >> mr. president, a couple of weeks ago after joe biden, president biden had said, and i quote here, for god's sake, this man cannot remain in power, meaning vladimir putin. he's since dialed it back and the u.s. doesn't have a policy of recommending a regime

change. you commended his words at the time saying when president biden says that putin is evil, i think that's a very correct statement, that compromise with russia is impossible. when you've cited what he was saying about a possible regime change, that vladimir putin must go, do you still stand by that? and do you still think that for there to be peace in the region, no matter what happens in ukraine, and hopefully things are resolved and soon, that vladimir putin should be gone, that he should leave? that he should be either forced out or even killed? >> so, yes, you know, putin is so to say, the result of certain policies that existed in, you know, in russia within

the last 10, 15 years and now, you know, the main problem in europe is putin and it's, you know, the personification of evil. so when biden made that statement, i completely agreed with the first unedited version of it because he needs the truth-- he said honestly what he wanted to say. he called a spade a spade, right, and you know, of course, diplomatically it could-- it should have been put differently, but right now it's not the time for diplomacy and tolerance. right now, you know, we have to state things clearly and, you know, very specifically. so, you know, he's evil and

evil should be called evil. february 24th of this year, you remember, in december last year putin basically, you know, made an ultimatum to the american president by sending specific letter to him. and in several days he sent the same letter to the n.a.t.o. leaders. ukraine was not even mentioned as a country, almost mentioned. so let us not question, you know, who the bells are ringing

for. neil: thank you, mr. president, i enjoyed talking to you. be well, be safe. >> thank you very much. neil: indeed, be safe. if you think about it viktor yushchenko almost died at the hands of vladimir putin and to this day he has health troubles leading to that poisoning and something that he fears could happen to president zelenskyy and urging him to be vigilant and always look over your shoulder. more after this. look at this guy. he bought those tickets on his credit card and he's rackin' up the rewards. she's using zelle to pay him back for the hot dogs he's about to buy. and the announcer? he's not checkin' his stats, he's finding some investing ideas with merrill. and third as you know in baseball means three. digital tools so impressive, you just can't stop banking. what would you like the power to do? this is koli. my foster fail (laughs). when i first started fostering koli

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>> all right. you are looking at live shots coming in from lviv and our cameraman there. it's a beautiful city and i'm impressed by the shots ukrainians trying to go about life as normal after an attack targeting civilians, 50 reported dead on the train station attack on the part of

the russians. with all of these attacks after attacks and brutality of just living in -- and trying to live your life in ukraine, we see again and again that they're trying to do just that and they're trying to just get through each day. it's a remarkable testament to their bravery and their determination to get on with that life. general david perkins, the u.s. four-star general. good to have you here. and one thing talking with former president viktor yushchenko, talking with russia, keep lying, yet we keep talking. >> and he talked about the three levels of war, capital, strategy, and what they're doing is a phase of reconstitution, having to

rearm, resupply, reorganize their units. they've taken pretty big losses and instructive, that the kremlin admitted that they took losses. neil: and they never do that, sorry to interrupt you, they never do that, but they did. >> i think that was instructive, if they've admitted large losses i'm saying they took enormous losses and i think they know that those body bags will start coming back to the russian families and there could be a little preparation on their part to admit the losses, but say it was in the fight for freedom of mother russia or whatever. so, i think they're starting to prepare the russian people for the reality that they may not quite understand because of course, we now how heavily censored their media is. neil: and when vladimir putin

shows 70% or i forget what it was in russia, can that be right? >> i think it could be in the point of view that you're asking people that live in a totalitarian regime and they know if they're asked a question and they say anything negative that they may pay for it, number one. or two, they really are in an information bubble and everything they're hearing is probably fairly positive 6789 so the pay that polls are taken in russia and the way information is con trained and filtered, i think it's likely that the polls are there, but putin is only fooling himself if he thinks that some measure of success of what's been going on in ukraine. neil: and end with what's your phone number again? >> right. neil: general, thank you very much. have a good weekend, sir, thank you as well for your incredible service to this country. we forget that all of these military geniuses we've got, they've been a lot and put a lot on the line to protect what they talk about.

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. jacqui: i'm not trying to control prices. neil: the profit, you're trying to control prices. >> i'm saying don't try to charge an excess price when ordinary americans are

suffering. it's more profiteering. you have agot vladimir putin war crimes in ukraine and the americans are doing the patriotic things and prices are going up and companies with record oil profits. neil: the sector in the s&p 500 is coming off the year of record profits, is this like rotating machine gun? are you going after others enjoying a run-up in profits, too? i mean, whatever your views are in the oil industry, would you extend that to others doing quite well in this market environment? oh, is this their patriotic responsibility to pay up because they are? >> i can't think of others doing it. food isn't, agriculture isn't doing it, food isn't doing it. the apple iphone you cited aren't doing it. most people in my district, what are they complaining about, the price of gas. neil: and the health care industry, the hospitality industry, all of those industries that enjoyed a

robust turnaround from the days of the pandemic, you're saying what's different about the oil guys they're the oil guys and their profits are bigger, expenses are bigger, obligations are bigger. they have more to lose and they're not helping americans more when in fact, their percentage basis in terms of their activity is in line with all other businesses, right? >> neil, i'm saying they're the one fleecing the working class. neil: you just said fleecing, you have no proof of that, congressman. >> the proof is people paying $6 at the gas pump. neil: all right. and and don't get me wrong, he's a very good, and the last 40 or so years we've been

investigations and not a single one has proven that point. are we trying to make them the bogeyman here and how much they're making and setting guidelines how much you think they should be making? the people who aren't good with our money deciding what other people should did with theirs and is that a good or bad idea? >> phil flynn, it's interesting that now we've made the oil companies the culprit here and maybe not a very unfriendly policy towards domestic oil production here. what do you think? >> i think you're absolutely right. you know, we talk about record profits, what about record losses a year ago from those companies. if you put-- if i do the math right, when we lose, break, we're not getting anywhere and these companies need to make profits to bring gasoline to your station. i think some of the people that have to take responsibility for

the prices, are democrats like congressman ro khanna, he came in and wanted to go after oil and drilling and production. he's the gentleman that wanted to quill investment in fossil fuels and all of a sudden, all of a sudden we're short of supplies and why aren't these guys doing more? so you know, you go after somebody, beat them up, beat them up, knock them down and hey, why aren't you putting up a bitter better fight. >> and one of the things i think i heard during the hearings with the congressman, with great respect, almost saying drill, baby, drill. and i'm thinking did i hear that right, are you telling this industry, you said that had to cut back and quit drilling so much to drill,

baby, drill. and indeed, they did say that. >> they did say that, this was the country that said, hey, you can't drill yourself to energy independence. yes, you can. we did it here in america. when everybody said we couldn't, the u.s. energy industry, capitalism, rose up to the challenge and did what they said was impossible. and now they want to, you know, change history and say, hey, we're the party of drill, baby, drill. we're the ones that killed pipeline and we're asking canada for more oil and can't get it because no pipelines. when you talk drill, baby, drill, look at the last climate conference and climate change and oil isn't doing enough and what did they know and when did they know it and now they weren't producing enough oil. and i don't think that's how

you get them to produce more oil. neil: i don't think there's a black and white solution to this and i find it odd that the administration isn't taking any ownership on what's happening on the energy front, blaming it on vladimir putin and the disgusting oil companies who make gazillions of dollars and there was coming out of covid and naturally the demand surge would lead to a price surge, i get that, but to say you had nothing to do with it. it would be like me the whole weight thing is a thyroid problem. no, i just like cannolis. i find it odd, can you take any ownership? do you have anything to do with this? does your policy order retrench when it comes to domestic oil production have anything to do with this? >> i don't think that cannolis are the problem. neil: maybe-- >> well, you're absolutely right.

if you listen to the biden administration, you listen to president biden as a candidate this is what he said he was going to do. he said hey, i'm going to raise your energy prices and he said it quite clearly, i want to get off fossil fuels and the best way i can do that is to raise your energy costs. now that he's succeeded in that, one of the few things he's succeeded well at he's trying to blame everybody else, it's not my fault, it's vladimir putin and the american oil companies and pretty soon he'll blame the american people. neil: and american people are forgiving, if you say i screwed up, it's not end of the world. politicians have avoided that. and those who admitted taking the blame, john kennedy and ronald reagan, they survived that. thank you, phil flynn. we're following what's going on at the border and a situation that could get a whole lot worse about a month from now

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>> with the biden administration ending title 42 expulses in may, texas will be taking its own unprecedented actions this month to do what no state in america has ever done in the history of this country, to better secure our state, as well as our nation. neil: all right. texas governor abbott all, but declaring war at the border here to beef up measures to try to catch those trying to get into this country. you've heard the reports about a million got-aways, it could get really out of control come may 23rd or so when the administration plans to drop this title 42. that's the measure that keeps those in this country once they're caught, and brings them

back either to mexico or points further south. the governor in the meantime is taking those who are captured and usually processed in texas and busing them to washington d.c. the administration has called this all a political stunt. that's not the way my next guest sees it. lieutenant out of the texas department of public safety. chris, good to see you again. you've heard how the administration has characterized this push to send a lot of these folks via bus to washington d.c., dropping them off there. what did you think of that, political stunt, they said? >> well, good morning, neil. again, of course always a pleasure to be with you. right now the state of texas has taken unprecedented action, since last year when government abbott launched operation lonestar, a comprehensive border strategy to combat the activity and drugs through the ports of entry and to national organizations exploiting the current border crisis. i can tell you there's going to

be criticism out there in regards to what the state of texas are doing. we're the only ones stepping forward and taking charge and doing something about this current border crisis and governor abbott, again, an example of just leadership and actually, standing up for texans and the entire country and also standing up against the federal government by coming up with different strategies to help this current crisis and also to help law enforcement and local communities to go after these organizations and try to prevent what we're going to see happen come may. dhs up 18,000 a day illegal immigrants coming across the border and not talking about the got-aways that continue to come across and setting off record numbers. 300,000 for six months of the fiscal year and it's going to continue to escalate and that's why texas has to continue to step in and take action because the federal government is not doing what they're supposed to be doing and that's the responsibility of securing the border. neil: you talk about could get up to 18,000 a day, i think we're around 7,000 a day right

now. >> right. neil: so. >> that's correct. neil: i'm not a lawyer, but they say it's not legal what the governor is doing, that you can't force someone on a bus and, you know, ship them off to washington d.c. others say, it's no different than taking at that same bus and dropping them at a texas processing center. where are you on this? >> that's correct. obviously, we cannot just go to these locations and just pick up, you know, immigrants and transport them out of the state, but i can tell you right now, with the ones that are into smaller and local communities, it's overwhelming for the border communities. these are immigrants that are being dumped off in texas in other parts of the state and you know, just being released into the city and it's overwhelming resources. so the plan is, the governor's plan is to have those mayors or those county judges when they feel a sense of being overwhelmed or strained

resources, they contact the texas department of emergency division who is handling that situation, and they will provide that transportation from texas to washington d.c. as opposed to just making several trips and dropping them off into other cities within the state. it's a comprehensive strategy to instead to allow some relief for some of the local border communities to provide the transportation, one straight shot all the way to washington d.c., so it's going to be very effective. neil: lieutenant, a number of democrats have been also urging the president to reverse this policy where he intends to drop this 42 provision. and they're not just border state democrats. senator john testor of montana, last time i checked nowhere near mexico, and saying it might be a police take. what do you make of this even growing democrats on this. >> politics aside, republicans and democrats have to come together because this is a situation that does not only affect the state of texas, it

affects the entire country, not only talking illegal immigration, but talking about the drugs pouring into the country, fennel fentanyl. americans are dying from this because they're manufacturing counterfeit pills laced with fentanyl and shipping them into the united states. it's not only a border crisis because of drugs, but transnational across the border and the immigrants aren't staying in texas. the get-aways aren't saying in texas, they're going to other states. and there has to be coming together to have a strategy to put effective policies in place that are going to be effective because i can tell you right now, neil, with may around the corner and those numbers they're predicting, it's going to be catastrophic. and in terms of the got-aways.

some of the tactics with the got-aways, they're using these carpet shoes, over their shoes, to avoid leaving any type of shoe track, they're able to go undetected and make it further into the interior and tactics that we're seeing with the individuals traversing through private ranches or other areas along the border and trying to get away and again, we don't know who they are and where they end up. so it's a dangerous threat to national security. neil: to put it mildly. thank you for coming on a saturday and warning us what's going on. a quick break and the news we've learned that pittsburgh steelers quarterback dwayne haskins has died this morning, after he was hit by a car, from his agent that confirmed that the 24-year-old was dead. he was training in south florida with other steelers quarterbacks, running backs and

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been rallying not only parliament members still in ukraine and others that the fight does go on. good to see you. >> hello. neil: in light of the latest attack on a crowded train station, killing more than 50 of your fellow ukrainians, all civilians and scores of others injured, it's pretty clear that vladimir putin's strategy is to get you guys to quit, to add so many horrific attacks that you and your fellow ukrainians say enough, we can't take anymore. what do you say to him? >> yes, first of all, thank you very much for covering our situation. it is very important for us and i believe for the whole world, and yes, this is a tactic of putin. he's trying to scare ukrainian nation and yes, this horrific attack at train station, i can just add a little bit how cynical they are, the first bomb to the railways and that's

why the railway station was so crowded so people could not leave the place and that's why there were almost 4,000 people there waiting for the possibility to evacuate. so then first you make it crowded and then he attacks them, so it's awful. thinking about what has happened around here, just yesterday i was there with the european parliamentarian, members of the parliament and european parliament and they saw the mass graves, people killed with their hands tied behind their backs, just executed, almost all people in the town of bucha are raped by russian soldiers so you could imagine this horror. so, that is what has happened and that's tactics of putin. but i believe and i'm sure that it will not work because our nation is not scared, but we are furious snoot and alexei, we don't know a lot of details

about what russians are planning right now. we do know that they're concentrating on the east and given the fact they've attacked train stations and hospitals and theaters, shopping malls, that they're going to continue looking at civilians. how do you think that has changed the mood of your fellow ukrainians? >> yes, first of all, we're trying to evacuate our welcome and children and also, we are really -- we hope that the west will help us with the air defense system, which will help to stop this awful attacks. neil: all right. >> and the first s-300 already arrived and we need more and we believe we will receive more, but speaking about the mood, people just want to win, the victory, and even i can tell you the negotiations with putin are today much harder and it will be just for people now

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