acknowledging the fact there is more than the eye can see. people will have psychological effects for days to come as well and they must respect those injuries as well. >> i love when you said everyone come together now. everyone come together. >> harris: absolutely. you see that a lot in new york. any minute police set up for that news conference. kayleigh mcenany. police at thee brooklyn shooting as the manhunt is underway as the setup process after chaos erupted at about 8:30 a.m. on the scene with the detail still coming in. here's what we know so far. no motive yet, but sources say the suspect was wearing a construction vest on the gas mask. five people have been shot, another 13 are endured. we are getting video from the scene that we must warn you, what you are about to watch is

graphic. it captures a horrific scene moments after the attack. you can see bloody passengers lying on the floor while the air fills with smoke. multiple smoke devices were found at the same and we also just got video from inside the subway car where you can hear some sort of popping sound. you can see at least one of the victims. bryan llenas is live in brooklyn. brian? >> we are awaiting the press conference which should start any moment now amid a manhunt for the suspect bid the suspect is described as a black male, 5'5", about 180 pounds. he was wearing a construction vest, in orange one, a gas mask as well. you can imagine that this area has been stabilized as an active crime scene from 20th street to 40th street between third and fifth avenue. that's a 20 block radius here in brooklyn, new york. this is a massive borough that in its own right would be a top

ten large city here in the united states. an ongoing manhunt at the same time we are bouncing more information on the nature of the inert injuries as well as where this investigation stands. we now know at least 16 people were injured. we know eight are in stable condition in ny peeling gone. we also know five additional people are in fact have nonlife-threatening injuries at another hospital here in brooklyn. so do the math. that accounts for at least 14 of the 16 that we've been told have been injured. at least five people were shot and from our understanding is that about 8:30 a.m. at the heart of rush-hour traffic care, that is when the smoke -- there was a call for smoke at the 36 street subway station, which is right behind where this press conference is going to happen. the fdny showed up and that's why where they saw people who were shot on the subway

platform. you can see the videos of people making their way, panicked outside of the subway car, where it appears that shooting into that smoke went off in that subway car as people were panicking and making their way outside. now obviously it took some time for nypd and fdny to respond and go belowground in this incident. right now we know that the subway stations -- said to bring all the subway cars in and around the area to their stations. we know people with an evacuated out of the subway cars. we know there are no subway cars that are stuck in underground tunnels or anything like that. at this moment there is an ongoing manhunt as people are being treated for daily serious injuries from being shot. or going to get an update on those numbers as well as whether or not there have been any kind of arrests made. the big question here is about where did this suspect to make his way into the subway station?

it's the largest in the nation. did he enter in manhattan? he could have entered anywhere along the five boroughs and made his way impaired it up at the gas mask on while on the subway car, which would've evaded some of those surveillance cameras? and in which direction did this suspect flee? these are some of the questions that we all have as we now know in 20 block radius is been closed off and two avenues. it's important to note that the schools in the area have been put under lock down there is a park right nearby. we've seen some helicopters in the air. undoubtedly those are from the press as well as nypd. but it's interesting to me at least that the stabilized area doesn't include the vicinity of a park, or i guess if you would be running -- who knows, they could've made their way anywhere at this point. that is the update that we have now, we'll get more soon. >> brian as you're speaking we did get an update. eight shots, 16 wounded. that's between three hospitals.

we also knew coming into this that the suspect had a gas mask, was carrying you just updated us at the top of your report about the suspects profile. i assume this is a frenzied effort to gather every of detail from and every witness possible. he set a 20 block roped off area they are searching, but what does it look like of my ground as this area time ticks by could get wider and wider. >> no doubt. this is a coordinated effort by nypd and adf fdi as well as state police. we've seen all of them. and we also just heard that the governor, kathy hochul, is going going -- is here on scene and will probably be speaking at this press conference at any moment. so you can see that this is a coordinated effort by all agencies, federal, state, and local. the nypd trying to zero in on the location of the suspect at this point who is described as a 5'5" black man about a hundred

80 pounds. the situation appear has seemed calm in terms of it being an hq. >> thank you very much, brian. harris, last hour i heard your conversation with dr. siegel a heartening report that some of these victims not life-threatening age injuries. can you share with us what you learned? >> one of the biggest messages i got from dr. siegel's really pertinent to say now because we are three and half hours away from when this began. he really wants people to think they have been held something to get to the hospital now. whatever it is is toxic enough that they are going to need some help and they don't want to wait until they feel like well i'm not hyperventilating from fear anymore, but i still cannot breathe. why's that? he doesn't want you to wait until that point. there may be many more people with smoke and elation because some sort of device was set off. the question is what were the ingredients of that device? so that was sort of the technical side of my

conversation with dr. siegel and that's more of an immediate care situation bear the gun shot wounds, hopefully the people that suffer them would've gotten more immediate attention because they would not have been able to walk away and run from a scene. those people who are going to have some problems breathing -- his concern for them. so you know keeping the to punt lineup is not just about reporting a crime commits also if you have a loved one and they are under duress and you don't really know what to do with a hospital seems to be filling up these victims come or do i go? utilize the temp outline. that's really important. particularly for people who might be visiting from other areas. we have a lot of terrorism going on. it's still an extended spring break season right now. if they were anywhere near here -- in brooklyn is popular destination this time of the year. so we just put all of that information outcome of the doctor thought it was really important. also probably the bottom line here is that the growing list of nonthreatening issues. we saw quite a bit of blood on

the platform as you guys were reporting this morning. we didn't know the origin of the plot. then we cannot assume all of it is gunshots. if you've ever been pressed through hard subway doors camille break a shoulder. i mean it is -- can you imagine being almost trampled out of that situation trying to get away from people? and whatever was going on -- the cacophony of shots or whatever it was that you heard, there will be some injuries from that. we cannot assume everything that we saw was a gunshot, but all of it deserves our attention pair that with bottom-line concern. >> it was in that hotline 817-5711 tips -- bill, i was so struck by one of the witnesses you had a near show talking but exiting a subway car and then trying to find an exit to a subway, but just not seeing someone. i cannot imagine -- and a man yelling i'm going to die. these are not images you expect to see. >> good afternoon, this is a day we did not expect but this is what we're dealing with at the moment. i think the biggest question is

who is the sky and who is he? to the act by himself or did he act with others? what was his motivation? what was his state of mind? what we've experienced living in manhattan ever since covid sort of went bias is the number of mentally deranged people that are on the streets. i would suggest that a lot of us sitting here today experiencing perhaps not on a daily basis, but seeing it several times a week. that was not the posture in manhattan prior to covid. so what's changed? that's one question out there. the other question is how does this new administration deal with this? the governor is not elected. so she is on scene they are. the mayor is on the job i think hundred one days as of today i believe, right? he's home with covid in the mansion on the upper east side. the police commissioner was brought in, really somewhat under the radar. she worked in nassau county.

she had about 300 officers. and she's taken over a police force here with more than more than 30,000 officers, men and women. so far she's been impressed with the public. we'll see her at some point today no sale shacks. but this is a real test for new york leadership. especially when i get when you consider the crime wave that's been happening in major cities all across the country. who is this person and where are they? >> we are seeing some activity now at the bank of microphones and were going to take a moment now to just listening and make sure we have the gun here. this brooklyn, new york. >> governor kathy hochul, police commissioner -- will outline the events as we know them. go to kevin nutt, the first will walk you through clive social. then we'll be able to entertain some limited questions.

there will be another briefing later this afternoon where we will be able to update that. then additional briefings as needed. >> thank you, john. so from the very minute this incident occurred the mayor and i have been on the phone monitoring the situation constantly. we have work with all of our agencies, the fdny, nypd, all of the agencies are working very hard together and we continue to throw all of the city's resources at the situation. we've made all the resources available, it will work with the office of emergency management for any additional needs. i'm going to ask the police commissioner to speak to you and give you an update give you an

update on the events. >> good afternoon we're going to update new yorkers about an active shooter incident that took place this morning inside the 33 street subway station on the ny pet i want to begin by ensuring the public that there are currently no known explosive devices on the subway train and this is not being investigated as an act of terrorism at this time. we can also report that although this is a violent incident, currently we have nobody with life-threatening injuries from this case. the investigation is only hours old so please note this information is subject to change. just before 8:24 a.m. this morning at the manhattan bound entry waiting to enter the 36 street station, an individual on that train donned what appeared to be a gas mask. he took a canister out of his bag and opened it. the train at that time began to fill with smoke. he then opened fire, striking multiple people on the subway and in the platform. again, we will describe him as

an individual. is being reported as a male black approximately 5'5" inches tall with a heavy build, he was wearing a green construction type vest and a hooded sweatshirt, the color is red. at this time we are working with our federal partners where we are asking for the public's help to deal with information, videos, or photographs, no matter how insignificant they think it might be, is incorrigible. 800-577-tips for it all calls are strictly confidential. i like to turn it over to the fdny to give information about the victims. i apologize, the governor would like to speak now. >> good afternoon. this morning ordinary new yorkers woke up in anticipation of a relatively normal day. they left their homes in route

to schools, and route to their jobs into a normal day, as i mentioned. that sense of tranquility and normalcy was brutally disrupted by an individual so coldhearted and depraved of heart, that they had no caring about the individuals that they assaulted as they simply went about their daily lives. this individual is still in the loose, this person is dangerous. we are asking individuals to be very vigilant and alert. you'll get more report as the day goes on. this is an active shooter situation right now in the city of new york but i just got off the phone with the mayor. he is recovering well and actively engaged in the situation. the people in the entire state of new york stand with the people of the city and we say no more.

just trying to live their lives as root new yorkers. we are sick and tired of reading headlines about science crime there is a mass shooting or the loss of a teenage girl, or 13-year-old. it has to stop. i'm committing the full reserves of our state, to fight the surge of crime, this insanity that is seizing our city, because we want to get back to normal. it's been a long and hard to years. we pray for normalcy and this with the mayor and i are going to continue to work for. i think the brave people of the p.a. to leave the station to make sure no more victims would be hurt. the nypd, fdny, state police, everybody involved in this has

one purpose, that is to stop the insanity of these crimes. you'll hear now our fire department. on a thank them for being there to help us diffuse this volatile situation. we will be giving continual reports as we go. we ask everyone to be careful and report what you see. it's likely that someone out there listening to this could help us lead us to that an individual. we have a description of what they are wearing, if you know the details. this of the day that we pulled together as new yorkers, united in a common purpose to say no more. that's what i'm going to continue to do is the governor of the state of new york working with our local department right here. thank you. >> good afternoon. this morning the fdny received reports of gunshot victims in the subway. thanks to their quick response we were able to treat 16 patients. ten of those patients are suffering from gunshot wounds at

this time, and five of them are in critical but stable condition in the hospital. >> can he say that again? >> we have 16 total patients, so ten of them are suffering from gunshot wounds, and five of them are in critical but stable condition at this time. i'm going to pass it over to the mda the give more information. >> okay. first of all we have to thank the nypd and the fdny and the whole team who have done so much to protect us and help immediately recover from the situation. i also need to acknowledge the mta workers who had -- who had the foresight to immediately move the train that was on the platform out of the station so it could carry people the safety. that was smart thinking. right now be service is suspended, w service is suspended. the d, the n, the r are running

with suspensions on some shuttle buses. folks should check the website. obviously it is a disrupted day, but a lot of the system is in fact running. i just want to say one thing on a personal note, which is on 9/11 i stood on fourth avenue and watched people, new yorkers come back from that tragedy. i thought i've watched new yorkers help people, storekeepers walked out and give people water, that was the same thing with on the platform today. we saw new yorkers in a difficult situation in an emergency helping each other. that's the subway rider, that's who new yorkers are, every day they are showing people in the subway, which is our public space, that new yorkers of all varieties can come together in small spaces and get along to create something bigger. that's what we remember in these emergencies as well as the tragedy in the thought for the quick recovery of the victims. new yorkers are incredibly resilient, just as they are in

every emergency. we thank them for what they've done i would think the governor and the mayor for their leadership and all of our recoveries from covid and from everywhere in these challenges. >> so just to reiterate were going to be very limited in what we are able to answer in these questions. and also to underline our process, we have mike reagan, he is the assistant special agent in charge of the joint task force with the evan nypd appeared trying john devito from apf who is helping with tracing efforts and investigation. he is the special and agent in charge for new york city. for the brooklyn district attorney, he is also here. and of course first deputy commissioner -- i'll start off with questions. >> was thus suiting on the train or the platform? >> it all happened in the 36 station or what happened?

>> the suspect was on the train car in the shooting began on the train car. >> can you detail what happened in the car? did the suspect say anything? what type of weapon did he have? because i said before, were only able to get limited information because it's under investigation. as the train was pulling into the station was suspect but i'm a gas mask and open a can muster from his cat bag in the department filled with smoke. then he began shooting. >> commissioner does this appear to be random? any idea why they did this? >> we do not know the motive at this time and we are not ruling anything out. >> what are the ends injuries that were not gunshot wounds? >> there are a variety of other injuries from smoke inhalation, shrapnel, tip panic induced shock. >> what do you think about where

the shrapnel could've gone from? >> could be a grazing from a bullet, it could be -- >> it's not from us from the explosive? >> no. >> that subject to investigation. >> why are you connecting this to the litany of gun violence rather than terrorism? steak i'm not ruling out anything. >> were the victims contained to one particular ethnic group? >> no, there was a variety. >> have time for about two more? >> why were the trains not shut down easily? and if it were -- >> that is not the case. >> are the cameras working in the subway station? >> that's under investigation. >> do we think it was an mcm a

worker a city worker or something? >> we have not identify the suspect. >> be happy to report on it later today. we'll have a statement out there. i'm not had a chance to speak with him i've been doing media interviews this morning. i will be addressing the very shortly. let's focus on the fact that there are people in the hospital right now fighting for their lives, those of the people we are thinking about applying for this moment. >> right, thank you very much. >> we will expect to have more later. that will not be here. >> i'm kind of listening that because sometimes though give some detail about where and when this next event will be. so they will amounts later a little bit more about it.

sometimes those are the only places you catch those details, right at the end when everybody is walking away. dear being paged at the airport you can hear your name but you do not know why. it's important to know because we just got a lot of information there. particularly from the nypd police commissioner, keyshawn sewall, who gave us the details of a suspect and during the train card today. imagine you are on your way to work, it's 8:38 a.m. eastern on the eastern coast, crowded subway platform and train, it is commuter prime time in the morning, you are in there, and somebody boards that car, opens a canister of something, now you are coughing. you've got smoke around you and gunshots are the people one after the other from being shot. the subway doors being pried open, whatever the cases you cannot get them wide enough to get all of the people out who are trying to get out. now we know that that person walked on -- we know so many

more details. and sometimes the shock and the moment for witnesses -- they are brave. we need them mightily. sometimes they will see things differently than how they shake out by the commissioner just told us no, not an mta vest, and add a construction type of orange situation, it was green. when she said that, bill hemmer looked at each other and said what? what happened to the orange? sometimes that will happen. she gave specific details. what we know now about the shooter that she could share. it was helpful. what we know now -- and there were a list of other people who spoke. we learned more about the victims -- here in fox news we had just told her that there were 16 of them, the breakdown of them ate at one hospital, three hospitals involved. unh shots, that is the number one trauma center where they were taken, ny langone in brooklyn. the other two hospitals eventually handling mostly inhalation. just a great familiarity with

the details that a wider public would be panicked about it this time. bella kemal handed to you. >> so, harris, what you are summarizing their -- it doesn't appear to be terrorism. yet not ruling anything out towards the end. no explosives at the scene also. i guess two questions here. emily, i think an attorney would agree with this. this premeditation involved. what she described with that as the train was coming into the station, but the gas mask on. then hit the smoke detector. after that, started shooting. well how did this 5'5", male black get out of that subway car before everybody else? in a subway car you've got two openings on each side, depending on how it approaches the subway stop. then you have two other doors at the bottom. but for a particular subway, at the stop you would only have two places were you could get off

that car. there is a door where you can then transform transfer other cars along that same track. it's quite possible he did that. there's one piece of video out there we don't have access to yet, but you can see a lot of people like they are taking their scarves and shirts and they are covering their mouth trying to get away from the smoke. it's possible that whoever this person was they open up fire, and they left that subway car before it came to a complete stop. at that point we wonder where the sky is going. other point of contention here, there were cameras inside that subway stop. we were told two hours ago when dana and i were first breaking this news that the cameras were not operating. when the police commissioner was asked that question she said that is under investigation. why weren't the cameras working? when was the last time they check them? >> that's a great question. >> but we are four hours into

this right now. brooklyn is a classic crowded community and nobody has a clue where this person is. >> just to give some landscape to the situation, keep in mind that this year crime in the mass transit here in new york city has spiked by 81% over last year, which was the highest in felony assault and homicide before that. nypd still does not have a contract with the city. they are the largest department of law enforcement here in the city. they have just started to brush against 60% in the city. i can't speak for all of us but ives felt a surge -- there is more and more people in the street that look like they are communicating. in addition to a lot of torque. yet the ridership is still down 40%. last time i was in the subway with you, kennedy, pretty much

just once in the last few months and i felt safe because i was with you. it was nighttime in the reality is that there's a lot of fierce running people riding the subway entrance at. this does no good in terms of reassuring anybody. the questions i have for mass public security is now what is the biggest impediment to identifying and locating the suspect? what's the greatest challenge in preventing something like this in the future as the city death returned as we restore faith under the new mayor adams. what things are being challenged? i want to say that at least one of those factors must be the political lack of support for our law enforcement and the way as well of funding. because that's what our men and women in blue need the most. >> kennedy, before you address that i want to just put in more about what emily was saying. so you had the statistic on total crime at 81%. particularly the change between 2020 and 2021 was a third more

murders along the mta line. i mean it isn't just crime, it's the worst crime. >> absolutely. it's intentional crime. these are not accidental, these are not pickpockets. that's why so much of our economic health depends on perception and confidence. so if people perceive that it's unsafe to ride the train, they are not going to ride the train. they're not going to go as many places. if they are not venturing out of their neighborhoods they aren't spending money in different parts of the city. this led to businesses, especially smaller businesses, that are really struggling to get back. so yeah, you read in "the new york post" everyday there's one or two stories about somebody getting stabbed, asleep being homeless person getting stabbed on the train, an old person getting pushed in front of a moving subway car. that's why the ridership and people don't feel safe. how's the mayor going to work with the police commissioner to

properly make sure the resources are where they have to go with the police department this big and with so much crime on the rise you have to get that confidence back. but also i think one of the most important things -- and we all have to take stock in a day like this, what am i wearing? what kind of choose my wearing? do i have water? do i need first aid supplies? do i have a plan? if this were a terror attack and we were not able to communicate with each other, do we know where we are going to meet? am i able to get myself to safety? do i know where the hospitals are? those are the types of things like if you are not involved in this it's a wonderful day to reassess and reset and talk with your family about -- >> make a plan. exactly. you know why you -- the same reason that many of us do. i'm not being facetious. nobody comes prepared like you do. you are the ultimate girl scout. you are. that was great. >> it was. we know multiple people were stuck on trains. we heard during the press conference that our train was one such train where individuals

were stuck. that was thankfully moved to safety, i just want to add in addition to that they also said he was wearing a gray hooded sweatshirt. i don't know if this individual is changed or not but just green vest gray hooded sweatshirt, be on alert. i would also note that this, they said the train was pulling in when he donned that gas mask. thankfully it was pulling in. i cannot imagine if it was in the midst of a long commute what it would be like be sitting in those trains. i read one account of a man trying to escape from one train car to another. so imagine it occurred that at one end of the tray there smoke bellowing everywhere, you escape to the end of the trade to try to move to another train and aren't able to do so. then, finally, i just want to point out some of the eyewitness accounts are striking. one man sang my subway door opened into calamity. it was smoke and blood and people screaming. imagine you're just going to work and a door opened and this is what you see. another man said i dropped two of my kids off and i'm descending into the train station is people are running up

and shouting and screaming. this is a horrific scene in new york city with a history of incidences. of course 9/11 being one such, many others in the times square -- you're kind of condition to be on alert. and to see these images. i just simply cannot imagine during the morning commute to work. >> that's a lot of eyewitness accounts there. kennedy mentioned the businesses. those that are outside, particularly as you're going to have people aboveground. but when you see people coming outcome of those businesses are like okay, here we go. were going to really be busy for the next few minutes. particularly rush hour, lunchtime. there are all sorts of businesses that are locked down today. bryan llenas was telling me you've got a mcdonald's, you've got the sunset park high school, which is right across the street. you have a huge brooklyn church there.

royal auto glass and window tinting. the new york committee martin delhi. another thing that i've read everything in them, including a tortured in sandwich. and you've just got small business owners will not. today will be a different type of day. but new yorkers are resilient. >> according to a good friend of mine who has two kids in public school, in brooklyn they are still lockdown. >> outcome a threat -- >> just a couple of things about this question about terrorism. what i heard her say was it doesn't appear -- the police commissioner -- then she doubled back at the end saying we are not willing anything out. first point, it's about the vest and the hoodie, we've been giving out descriptions for four hours. a lot of those descriptions that we were given apparently were inaccurate. it reminds me of the d.c. sniper shooting 20 years ago. in the fall of that year in our nation's capital everyone was looking for a white van. it turns out the killings were never in a white van. they were no longer four-door sedan that they carved out the trunk of the car and had set up

the rifle so they could shoot out of the back of the car. that's how they were evading all of the forces throughout washington, d.c., and the d.c. area. debbie killing spree. but you're right about it, the first impressions in the image you see, and how they could or could not be accurate. >> and it's all -- it's all colored by -- because i know we are talking about colors in general. it's all colored by a person's perspective, their fear, where they on their knees? were they on the ground? i mean it's all of it goes together and panic in that moment and what they think -- >> jon miller come in the first person to introduce everybody, he was on the trail of usama bin laden before any of us even stop to consider who he was. miller worked on the "abc news" and since then he's worked with the city. he's excellent at what he does. we'll see what more information they have to provide. >> we know at the moment nypd condition commissioner green

vest, gray hooded sweatshirt. let's bring in hannah myers, the director of policing and public safety at the manhattan institute. thank you for joining us, hannah. hannah, i wonder -- as the minutes slowly slipped by they are so crucial look to catch the suspect, do so can every detail, that to plan, 1-800-577 tips. hannah, take us into what this manhunt looks like. as these minutes to five. >> a good likelihood -- this is the most professional law enforcement in the world. nypd intelligence capacity is enormous. i'm confident that the amount to which they've integrated online and dark web, nondark web, anywhere that would have information, there are integrated with the criminal aspect, they are integrated with the fbi, with all of the different agencies. we are lucky to live in an era where there's so much footage

and sibley could disappear a lot more easily. now that's gonna be very hard. you see on the screen how integrated everybody is. as a perverse benefit to how much crime has written as kennedy was saying before. we've had for a decade previous it was less dead 14 average murders. but the benefit is that the new ceo of the mta, who we sought press conference, brandon bell nypd chairman chief, they work hand in glove in a way that mca and nypd didn't really have to before. mta had a lot of prerogatives. right now for the economic benefit of the system, for everybody safety and well-being, they are working so closely to prevent crime and to understand exactly what's going on. i think that that will help us and hopefully apprehending him in getting all the information, convincing everyone that it's safe to go back and look subway

which is so important. surveys have shown that individuals who did not come back into the subway system after the pandemic at all, they have the most fear, those of us who inched back in and have been commuting while everyone should be apprehensive about the increase in crime should be aware of their surroundings are less fearful than those who have even stepped foot. this is going to be a step back. this could have huge economic impact. hopefully that trust will come back, ridership will come back. >> hannah, it's emily compagno. what is the greatest challenge at this moment to identifying and apprehending the suspect? as every moment takes by does not decrease the likelihood that he will in fact be apprehended? >> i mean i think the lack of information is the hardest part, right? nypd gets tons of leaves all the time. as a constant sorting through and following up of leads. especially after the boston

bombing marathon bombing where there was a lead that had not been followed up on. nypd and intelligence bureaus around the world doubled down on how thorough they are with every single, often silly and frivolous lead that comes in. clearly with this there was a lead. nypd intelligence is largely a preventative intelligence agency. they stop these kinds of attacks. there are a lot of bad people out there trying to attack us all the time. they intercept that. they follow that. they go through every step possible in a very integrated fashion with other agencies to prevent these attacks. clearly this one was not known about. to the greatest extent that this person is someone who had no interactions with people online or has these fewer points of contact. the harder it will be. this is clearly first on everybody's attention. there is a description, and i'm

fairly confident given in the past how many fugitives had many opportunities to slip into the night. >> hannah come on the point of terrorism, how would they know at this point how they could or could not -- >> that's a good question. they could say whether this an any indication of this person was working off some particular ideology. i think it's still pretty speculative on why -- rush hour makes sense for more casualties and more kind of fear that it struck around every day new yorkers, it's a very asian community, there's been speculation that this is part of anti-asian hate crimes taken to the next level and whether or not you can have that is terrorism is kinof academic. certainly the terrorism bureau deals with all forms of extremism. right wing, left wing, black nationalists. everything is sort of a codified

terrorism category and everything that aren't i think it might be commenting on the lack of signal that's associated with any particular demands and ideological bands so far. >> hannah, it is kennedy. i've a question about the relationship between the nypd and the fbi. what is it and how does this investigation will forward? who takes the lead? >> that is a good question. nypd and fbi fbi are hugely. that wasn't accidental following 9/11 agencies really took it seriously that information sharing is everything. even though every agency has an ego and doesn't necessarily always want to share information or work together, in the past two decades there have been an incredible evolution and how well integrated all of these agencies are. how frequently they meet, how frequently they meet with also different representatives together. how much they confer on individual cases.

i believe commissioner miller -- believe i heard some to say at this point nypd is still taking the lead. i don't think it's -- i think that both agencies are going to have to be -- this is their number one priority today. they have different types of resources, different types of legal boundaries. they're just going to be flexing all of that. >> so important and helpful to get your perspective today. we appreciate your time. thank you very much. were going to bring it back to the couch now. bill, i'm asking to -- i don't know if you guys are getting my emails. but there was new email to video we had at the end of the faulkner focus that show the vantage point from inside the car were the shooting was occurring. what i thought it was specifically interesting was when you were talking about where the cars connect and kind of the distance, the length of

the car here. let me just stop talking so that you can hear the beginning. can we reek you it? that's the lead part that's really important. let's listen together. okay, here we go. speak all right, this goes on for a few seconds longer. we do not want to make any speculation or assumptions, but there was a sound. it could've been a knock on the door, we are not quite sure. but there was a rhythm to it. speak of the car was still moving. >> it was a one, one, two, three, 12. could've been banging on the door. we know the people were at that point. >> ever this business, they are

on the run. whoever this person as they headed away. it's pretty evident right now that they selected that particular stop. they were coming into the. every subway shop has four doors. only two open per stop. there are escape routes this person could have easily gone to the car behind door in front, and open waited for the car to stop. the car is slowly going to a stop and get out and going for a run. i mean right now the suggestion as to be that this person had an idea to get away and leave the scene. >> i thought it was important what you mentioned earlier, he don't want to go down a speculation route. was somebody waiting to help? we don't know those details. >> in days to come we might find out this person made a dry run depending on whether or not the

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>> welcome back fox news continuing coverage of the shooting on the brooklyn subway this morning at 8:38 a.m. eastern time in the city of new york. since then the subject remains at large, a 5'5" african american male last scene with a gray hooded sweatshirt and the green vast. with ten people during their morning commute shot, smoke filling that subway car that you see there, undetonated bombs retrieved, undetonated explosive devices. for now schools in the area remain locked down, businesses

remain locked down, nypd working in concert with the fbi to apprehend the suspect now. let's bring in jeff james comer retired supervisory special agent with a full career in presidential detail and then expertise and public safety. he joins us now by phone. just james comer what are your top lane thoughts on the situation? >> my top lane thoughts are thank heaven if this had to happen it happened in new york. the nypd is one of the premier law enforcement agencies in the world. if anybody is going to solve it it's going to be the nypd. after the boston marathon in 24 hours there were 10,000 tips called end. some of those you're going to be able to dismiss pretty quickly. it's going to be a lot of footwork over the next 24, 48 hours. >> i am, just, as we listen to a press conference earlier from among the speakers the nypd

commissioners and the like, nothing at this point is rolled out. no motive is rolled out as we learn the details of the suspect himself we are really limited to those facts. were not sure if it's a terrorist activity, if there is ideology involved, so what words do you have based on your experience that you can reassure the public as we move forward here, as we are still reeling from the pandemic spikes in crime and the lack of support for law enforcement now. what do residents need to know? >> i would tell the residence and anybody who wants my advice is keep your head up, be aware of your surroundings, the phrase if you see something say something is incredibly important. as he walked on the street take your head out of your phone, see who is walking past you, look at what people are carry down my carrying. look for anything that's being out of place. if somebody drops a backpack and walks away find somebody to help. if you see somebody carrying

even a small weapon in their hands there is a reason they are carrying it. get your head up, no your surroundings, and be aware of what's going on around you will. >> jeff, imagine the boston bombing. one of the things critical in boston as we did have images, right? the police were able to go back in time and recreate the moment where the brothers approached the scene -- i remember specifically they were highlighted and spot shadowed in the crowd. the finish line for the boston marathon. we were told earlier today, the cameras in the subway didn't work. the new police commissioner -- i was asked about it she said it's under investigation. what do you do then if the camera doesn't work -- had to go back in time trying to find the sky on a string of cameras that may or may not lead -- >> there's a lot of cameras in new york. for the eventuality that some of them are not going to be functional. he didn't get on will be able to

go on back in time and look at other cameras we can cross. then find him again when his mask is off. that's where will be able to get these images. that's when we can get identification on the person. >> jeff, kayleigh mcenany here, take us into the office is right now. what's happening with the nypd and what's happening with the fbi? >> right now i would say it's all information gathering and quick response to any tips that you deem credible. so if they get a call from somebody who said hey, that description fits my neighbor and i know i saw him playing with smoke bombs in his garage or something like that a couple of weeks ago that something they're going to act on quickly. they're going to get a lot of nonsense tips, but right now it is information gathering and

quick reaction to tips that's incredible that's incredible. >> you know, chris, i'm always interested on how hard you lean on witness reports. we are human beings. when we are under stress and being shot at and shoved through doors and trying to avoid trampling and the like, sometimes we are not as accurate as we could be. we were at fluctuating reports. we get that every time we see something like this. so how do you sift through it? >> you look for the patterns. if i talk to ten people who had time to confer with each other and seven of them tell me he was a 5'5" african american male and three tell me now, he's a tall guy with a beard, i'm going to lean on the pattern that i find in that identification. it's wrong, as mentioned earlier, i was living in d.c. when the snipers were -- going around and we were -- everybody was looking for that white box truck like was mentioned earlier. for the most part are going to

look for patterns and witness statements, and that's what you're going to leave on. >> jeff, it is kennedy, what's to tell you he used a firearm and canisters? >> welcome a diversion and fear. again, please see his flash bangs smoke grenades. we do that to disorient bad guys end of make our line of work easier and would hopefully end up being a apprehension of the suspect, where there are no injuries. in this case it was used to disorient the victims and increase fear. so that's what i glean from that two-pronged attack. >> what are the ramifications of this type of event in a city like this? >> look at the fear it's created. you're going to have a ripple effect this can enter your economy, it might hit tourism. are people going to send their kids to school tomorrow? are people going to go to work tomorrow? i heard earlier talk about all

of the small shops and businesses that are -- maybe their economy is it because there are ramifications. >> i mention that. the one thing i want to add in is the ingredient that makes new york city so special that is the ability to be resilient. it is impressive. it may happen for a day, or couple of days the sea and imprint from a crime like this. but boy, they can bounce back. fort unfortunately we've seen a lot of crime. >> absolutely. if this test thank heavens it was new york because they are tough and they do bounce back and though get it solved. >> jeff james comer think is much for your expertise and insight. we will stay with you for our continued coverage here at fox news here at the brooklyn subway shooting this morning at 8:30 a.m. eastern. for now were going to bring the conversation back to the couch. bell, what struck me was in part

what harris mentioned, the resiliency of new york. what struck me about an earlier conversation that you had during your coverage with an individual, and eyewitness and longtime resident of that neighborhood -- he talked about how in the 15 or so minutes before paramedics and first responders were able to get to the actual scene, he talked about the mta employees who were directing people to evacuate and get back on the train to get out of there. they were absolutely doing their jobs. they were doing their duty in the crisis. they talked about the new yorkers themselves who rallied around the injured after -- who had medical experience, who ate coke and triage. they did, and as we seen these videos, plenty of people of course fleeing as they should, there were also people who stayed behind to help those that were wounded. >> 's name the gentleman's name was sam, wasn't it? he was a terrific cast. he was the one who dropped that line calamity he was in a train

on the subway track until the doors open across the platform. and the smoked is billowing out. terrific gas. i think what jeff was describing there, he gave some excellent answers as well. i think the other thing -- you know we fall into this habit of saying, well what is the answer? we are four and a half hours an end we want to know from authorities -- like if a person has been apprehended. it doesn't always work that way. i will say, however, just think about the amount of images we have already. i mean within an hour our team on "america's newsroom" was able to work through our new york bureau give us an idea of what was happening. it's pretty remarkable. hopefully maybe when the next press conference pops up this afternoon will get a few more answers that new york needs in america needs. >> you know that video we were looking up before -- a legitimate social media and of course we're watching it on smaller screens here. but if we put it up and i 100-foot wall behind us,

apparently it's like a big tv at home that we would normally be watching him come a bigger tv than these tiny monitors. like the video, there been comments on land that they thought that they could see somebody and that andy blake comeau we cross from one part to the next. we don't have all the answers. heck, we barely have any. what we do have come as you just said, is a lot of video. a parent depending on what you can watch the sun, you too can watch some pieces of this investigation. i don't know the answers, but this is the one that had pure audio on it. you could make out the things that people were saying to each other. >> that's right, kennedy, you spoke earlier about the personal diligence that one has to undertake here in the city or any city. audio balance that vigilance with that sort of protection? how do you balance so that you don't make eye contact with a kind and also to be so aware of your surroundings so that you can -- if you see something say

something and also protect yourself? >> you just have to take the responsibility upon yourself to be aware. look out for the people. make sure that you are prepared and that you are always safe. you know, you guys were talking about the suspect, i've actually worried about some of the answers were going to get. i'm very confident that they'll apprehend him. i'm confident they will find him. what worries me as was he so erect during steady years resorting to things >> one point, the president of the united states landed in iowa about 12:10 p.m., he's being updated, and you have the president of the united states i'm sure being constantly updated by his chief of staff. i'm certain he will likely amend the top of his remarks to address this. >> one of the things we do know, the mayor of new york city is in quarantine because he's recently

tested positive for covid-19, and do know the white house had reached out to mayor eric adams, he was the one face and voice you did not see at the very large gathering of leadership. >> just think how frustrated he is right now. >> second isolation. >> more frustration among the people in the car. god bless them. continuing breaking news coverage on "outnumbered." here is "america reports." >> john: harris, thank you so much. to brooklyn, new york, a shooting on a subway during the height of rush hour injured 16 people, ten with gunshot wounds. a man had a gas mask and green construction-type vest. good afternoon, well come to "america reports." i'm john roberts. and good to see you today. >> good to see you, i'm gillian turner in for sandra. this is "america reports." shooting happened below ground on a subway in brooklyn,