♪ ♪ howard: pundits, politicians and protesters are so wrapped up in their feelings of righteousness that they hurt their own cause. if you're a supporter of abortion rights, you're understandably emotional, and those on the pro-life side feel just as passionately. but by staging protests outside the homes of conservative justices, pro-choicers are making hair strategy the issue. washington post pro-choice editorial page agrees saying the

tactics are not justified, and there's no reason to make the justices, their families and their neighbors miserable. the justices are trapped inside their homes with their kids as the activists shout up a storm night if after night. here's what it looked like outside brett kavanaugh's suburban maryland home. [inaudible conversations] >> hands off -- >> our bodies! >> pro-life is a lie! howard: this is part of a disturbing trend of protesters going after and in some cases harassing officials they disagree with. i know some democratic politicians have had to endure such conduct, and there's been past violence against abortion clinics as well as against pro-life offices. but the ends justified the means mentality doesn't excuse any of these episodes. two wrongs don't make a right. look, peaceful protests are embedded in america's dna. go demonstrate in front of the supreme court, the white house, your local downtown. but going to justices' houses is nothing short of an attempt at intimidation, and that crosses

al line, but a moral one. i'm howard kurtz, and this is "mediabuzz." ♪ pleasure. ♪ ♪ howard: ahead, glenn greenwald on the media going bonkers or elon -- over elon musk saying he'd lift the twitter ban on donald trump and putting whole deal on hold. some liberal pundits are applauding the practice of shouting and waving signs in front of justices' homes. >> it also shows what it feels like to lose your freedom of choice. alito cannot leave the house. maybe that's a good lesson. >> yes with, there are going to be protests in front of kavanaugh's house because people are angry. as long as they stay nonviolent, i think for most of people watching, you can understand where they're coming from. howard: and the pushback there if commentators on the right has been just as strong. >> why would anyone really be

surprised when democrats don't condemn pro-abortion wingnuts showing up at justices' houses and churches? these people are fanatics. >> think about how mentally unstable you are going to somebody's house because you're upset with them for something political. you go to somebody's house in order to intimidate, threaten and you're a jerk. howard: when senate democrats failed to pass pass an abortion bill, commentators couldn't even agree on what the bill would do. >> the priority should be to elect pro-choice leaders at the local, state and federal level. because what we are seeing around this country are extremist republican leaders. >> the language of the bill would allow literally for somebody to say i've got a mental issue with having this child and allow abortions right up to the end. >> this is a bill that would have have enshrined into law the right to make choices about your body at the federal level. howard: joining us now to

analyze the coverage, mollie hemingway, editorial or in chief of the of federalist, and in los angeles, leslie marshall, talk show host. you to co-authored a book on the kavanaugh nomination. what do you make of these in the media on grounds that conservative justices' want to take away a woman's privacy dig on abortion, so it's okay to invade their privacy? >> it doesn't stand up on multiple levels, and it actually is against federal statute to protest with the intention of changing the course of an opinion like this. people have been very open and honest that that's why they're intimidating these justices in their homes, but it's one thing to be upset with justices, entirely another to be upset with -- to do it in such a way that affects their children. some of these justices have young children, children with special needs, and it's clearly inappropriate. howard: leslie, the white house had no comment for days, but now merrick garland has sent out

some extra security. you could certainly point out there has been protests at chuck schumer's house, abortion clinics, a couple of molotov cocktails with a spray painted message if abortions aren't safe, then you aren't either. shouldn't the media oppose

howard: many in the media but not all echoed, but republican

opponents say -- >> yeah, it goes much further. >> while it's good that some people have in the democrat party have spoken against it, we could use more leadership. yes, the media kept saying this was codifying roe v. wade. it would legalize abortion through all nine months and overturn hundreds of state laws, so it went much, much further, and it was the type of bill that would be opposed by some 80% of the country. howard: well, you know, manchin said that he would have supported a so-called clean bill, in other words, one that did nothing more than restore roe v. wade. this, of course, is in anticipation the supreme court will actually make the final decision based on the draft that was leaked to politico which may

change. leslie, why doesn't the press just say this whole effort to have this vote this week is pure politics? because it wasn't going to ever reach 60 votes to defeat a potential filibuster, everybody greece on that. but the democrats -- agrees on that. but the democrats could have gotten 52 votes if they'd had manchin on board and two two republican to-choice senators, susan collins and lisa murkowski likely would have vote is for it as well. but instead, biden, harris and schumer saying elect more pro-choice senators. >> i don't know that that collins and murkowski would vote for it, howard. they kind of say one thing and vote another way. when we look at what my party did, i was not in favor of that. the reason is you just have to look at what the american people, the american voters want, and that's the constituencies of these individuals who are elected to these positions. 9 and the majority of people in the united states, depending on which poll you're look at, favor a woman's right to choose, and roe v. wade, for the first

trimester. it gets a bit murky in the second and definitely not popular in the third trimester. i would agree they should have said, okay, what do we have the votes for and then put that forth because, you know, to me, you've bot to put forth -- got to put forth legislation to get it passed unless you're trying to point out in the other party people on the record voting a certain way. and that wasn't the case this time around. howard: or unless you're trying to please liberal interest groups who want more than just to keep roe intact. let's not forget under the reasoning of the samuel alito draft, abortion will be returned to the states, and we undoubtedly face a situation where half the country it's illegal and half the country it's legal. >> it'd actually be even more complex than that, but you raise an excellent point, and i think it's something that hasn't been shown in media coverage thus far. in this alito draft opinion, it would return to the people the opportunity to debate in their states about how they want this to be. and because the majority of americans, while they do support

some limited right to abortion, they don't support abortion on demand through all nine months of pregnancy. you would see some limitations on that that would match, that would make this country be more in line with the rest of the developed world and less in line with north korea and china which is where our abortion policy is right now. howard: what's your thought on that, leslie? because right now the people who don't like what this potential majority is doing saying, well, these are a bunch of unelected judges, but they were also in 1973 when roe was first adopted. so it seems to me that there's least an argument that why not let local, state and local officials make these decisions and if the public in their states don't like it, they can toss 'em out? >> a couple of things. one, to talk about us being a part of the developing world of the international community, we have two of the most catholic countries, ireland and poland, that passed abortion to be the

legal in their nations. so, no, we're not, we're not just -- we're not even leading from behind, we're trailing from behind. we're going backwards with this. to your point about the states, howie, the problem is we have almost half if not more of the states already ready to pretty much abolish abortion within their states. and in some of those states, you know, the people don't -- you know, if you're in a red state, you just don't have the numbers to change those people on the right that are going to make those decisions. and if you are somebody who is middle to lower income, especially lower income, you're not going to have the finances to go out of state. so, sadly, what's going to happen? choice is only going to come down to those who are wealthy or who live in blue states, and that's not the america i know. howard: let me come back to the media coverage, mollie. are the media helping the democrats play to their base by warning this is not just about abortion, that scotus will throw out same-sex marriage next? the president's explicitly said

that. no one has any idea whether any laws will be affected. >> even more than that, alito specifically references how the topic of abortion is fundamentally different than all these other issues because it does violently end human life in the womb. it is of a completely different order. so this is something that for nearly 50 years americans have not had an opportunity to weigh in on. are returning this to the people is a very democratic approach. it is true that some pro-lifers would like to protect unborn human life from this violence on a nationwide level, and that is something that shows, again, how moderate alito's opinion is. that has not something that's been shown in this media coverage. our media are so extreme on abortion. they are so out of touch with most of america that it shows in their coverage, and it's not to anyone's service. howard: but, you know, leslie, the press has been playing up some comments by mitch mcconnell to "usa today" that if the ruling are final and if republicans take control of congress next year, it's possible, said the republican leader, that they'll push for a

nationwide ban on abortion and not just samuel alito's return it to the states. and that has given liberal pundits a new target, has it not? >> yeah. it's also given a bit of fire under the the bus of democrats who don't come out normally in the midterms to vote, so i question i should thank mitch mcconnell for saying that. look, this is political, and it's not just political, it's personal especially to those of us who have uteruses and have people without them -- >> and that's actually another thing. >> but -- wait, wait, wait, mollie -- hugh howe i'm very short on time. >> even women who are pro-life support another person's decision, again, in the first trimester. so if you're going to have an outright ban and have this country go back where women are dying in back alleys, that is not going to be favorable even to republicans, especially those white, educated suburban women. >> it is a lie to say women are supportive of abortion. many women love other women and

their children, and we want to support women in their child-bearing and not support the violence of abortion. howard: we're over time. ahead, glenn greenwald on why elon musk said twitter's trump ban is flat-out stupid. but up next, why the white house and the media were so slow on the baby formula crisis. ♪ ♪ ♪ pop rock music ♪ >> tech: ...we can replace your windshield and recalibrate your advanced safety system. >> dad: looks great. thanks. >> tech: stay safe with safelite. schedule now. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ here we go... remember, mom's a kayak denier, so please don't bring it up. bring what up, kayak? excuse me?

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howard: the baby formula crisis seemed to materialize out of nowhere, catching the national media by surprise and prompting no public comment by the biden white house until the last few days. now, with the severe shortage leaving parents extremely anxious and no end in sight, the administration is taking modest steps prompting this question to the president: >> should you have taken these

steps sooner before parents couldn't find formula? >> if we'd been better mind readers, i guess we could have, but we moved as quickly as the problem became apparent to us. and we have to move with caution as well as speed because we've got to make sure what we're getting is, in fact, first rate product. howard: mollie, i am stunned by this shortage, and the biden white house didn't address it until it became a full blown crisis, and the national media was caught napping as well. why did it take so long, since february, when the largest manufacturer, abbott, had a recall and shutdown of the factory, for this to become a national story? is. >> right. i have seen a little bit of media coverage in the past few months. i think this shows the importance of the white house press correspondents personally asking questions, this was the first time it was mentioned by him. i but i also think it reflects problems with the coverage of this media in generalment with the previous administration it was all about mean tweets. with this administration they don't seem to care that nothing

is being done particularly well, and they only cover the, you know, surface-level stuff that's much less important than, say, baby formula shortage. howard: leslie, we're learning that the market for baby formula is dominated in the u.s. by four companies, that foreign imports have been heavily restricted and, you know, sometimes over minor things like labeling, not safety. in purely political terms, doesn't it look like the biden white house let this spin out of control? >> well, if you believe the headlines, yes. but if you looked at what it takes when you have somebody who is a whistleblower make an allegation of bacteria and contamination that led to a handful of children being sick and in one case a death -- which they have found there is no connection between that formula and those cases of illness and death -- that takes time. and it wasn't in the headlines. so when the white house is working with the fda behind the scenes with abbott, as you rightly said, it's the largest of the four manufacturers. but i want to point on that,

howie, because that's one of our problems. we only have four manufacturers, one. 96 plus percent of the formula we get in this country is from our country, which is a good thing in one respect. and when you've had con domination or bacteria as other thing -- of other things we ingest in the past, lettuce, for example, it didn't end up as a shortage. and lastly, you know the reason so many women use formula? now, i adopted a child. you can take lactate. that didn't work for me, so you need formula. some people can't create enough breast milk. but the bottom line is most women in this country don't have the time to breast-feed their children in those first few months because the united states is not like the rest of the world, especially australia and germany, where women have six months to a year of maternity leave to take care of their children properly. and then there is hoarding -- howard: leslie, i've got to jump

in. >> how can you can sometimes buy formula on ebay? if. howard: jen psaki didn't say when the president was briefed, and they're not mind readers, and there was stuff going on behind the scenes, but lots of moms knew about this. yet it's only public now. >> and again, think back to the covid pan pandemic where we had the media on top of every single angle each as the trump administration was using operation warp speed and all sorts of things to deal with that. relative to this where we've got this nationwide crisis. cleary, there's a governmental -- clearly, there's a governmental role, and you're not seeing the panic that you saw from the corporate media. howard: we did a search on page 15, headline baby formula shortage stems do -- strains families across u.s., forces stores to ration citing target and walmart limiting purchases. "wall street journal" had a similar story that week. why didn't everyone in the media immediately follow up? why didn't that set off alarm

bells? >> again, i think a couple of things. we're used to, when we have a clog in the wheel, we're used to going in and seeing things empty on the shelves, and until you have the outcry from the public, it doesn't make the front page, as you know. and that's how it is. so in other words, you know, the media's going, you know, what are the people saying? oh, the people are complaining. and i would disagree, i think the media is all over this now -- howard: now, yeah. -- and not painting the biden administration in a positive way. howard: no dispute about that. i do think the press just pell down here. we have a story about rationing by major chains, that cries out for some kind of follow-up, and if my babies weren't older now, i would be freak out as well. the president has been attacking ultra-maga republicans in his speeches and that's fine, we're heading into the midterms, but that's not going to put baby formula on the shelves, and no one knows when this is going to end. great to have you both, mollie

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howard: "the new york times" report that president biden is livid over the leaking of u.s. intelligence which unnamed officials boast about enabling ukraine to inflict substantial damage on russian forces which is fascinating because the times itself published the first such story based on classified information. quote: the united states has provided intelligence about russian units that has allowed ukrainians to target and kill many of the russian generals who have died in action in the ukraine war according to senior administration officials. soon afterwards, nbc aired this anonymously-sourced report about american intel. >> nbc news reports u.s. intelligence shared with ukraine

helped lead to ukraine's sinking of the russian cruiser, one of the most embarrassing setbacks russia has faced since the tart of -- the start of the war. howard: joining us now, fox news correspondent and ab color grif. first of all, these stories could not be done without the senior administration officials blabbing this highly sensitive information to the media. no wonder the president is angry. these are damaging leeks -- leaks, and it sounds like brag. >> that's exactly the world. remember the old world war ii loose lips sink ships? these loose leaks bragging about the u.s. role in killing russian generals and sinking a russian flagship puts the country on a dangerous path towards direct involvement in conflict with russia which would be disastrous. and so really the treatment of intelligence in a hot war is what reporters who are getting these leaks have got to decide

whether or not they should report them in the way that they've been done. howard: but almost nobody, including the times, is looking at the media side of the equation. why does the new york items and nbc run with such information, obviously provocative to russia? these are military secrets that do nothing to deepen our understanding of the war. the pentagon said this was not helpful. i don't think, my opinion, either story should have been published. >> i would agree with you, howie. and i love deep digging, original reporting. it's what i aspire to do. but at the same time, with this sort of reporting on intelligence comes responsibility in revealing state secrets in a hot war when the country is not directly involved yet because of the disastrous consequences that could come from that. it has to be number one thing that they decide. and these stories, dare i say is, are thinly sourced. fox news has not confirmed them, a lot of other outlets have not confirmed these stories, so it looks like there was a decision the made on the part of these

reporters that did not fully consider the ramifications of how a wounded, badly-failing vladimir putin might interpret them. howard: yeah. biden is reported to have calls with top national security officials and chewed them out over these leaks. now, look, there are certain things the american press doesn't do in wartime such as publishing troop movements. we all knew, broadly speaking, that the u.s. was giving ukraine intelligence, so why should these outlets report that we're essentially responsible for killing russians? you point out how does putin react to that k and i just think there are times when you say no. >> the fear is you did make ambiguous speculation over the u.s.' direct role. i give you for an example when i was in mosul in 2016, the u.s., 82nd airborne, was in an advise and assist role helping the iraqly special forces -- iraqi special forces drive isis out of iraq are.

that was of not a secret. we were reporting that on the ground, but even then we were not revealing sources and methods. in this case this is not a publicly-known amount, and that's why president biden is so very upset. and i bring it back to the media. at the end of the day, when you get a great leak -- and i love good leaks -- howard: so do i. >> -- have responsibility for what you do with that. howard: i didn't have jenkins, he ran a 10k before coming on show, so he's got lots of energy. [laughter] >> how we get ready for "mediabuzz." howard: up next, glenn greenwald, why elon musk is holding up the entire twitter deal. ♪ ♪ so we offer a complete exam and x-rays free to new patients without insurance - everyday. plus, patients get 20% off their treatment plan. we're on your corner and in your corner every step of the way.

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or fake. now, maybe he's having second is thoughts, but musk said in a follow-up tweet still committed to the acquisition. we'll see. the tapping of the brakes came after another media explosion when at a financial times conference musk said this: >> it was not correct to ban donald trump. i think that was a mistake. because it alienated a large part of the country, and it did not ultimately result in donald trump not having a voice. and this is why it is morally wrong and flat-out stupid -- "happening now" now, if he gets back on twitter, do you think the left secret hi wants that? they want the big bad wolf back. >> trump has been starved of that online narcotic, it'd be nice to think he spent the last year in attention rehab, i'd say, no, no, no. howard: i spoke earlier with glenn greenwald, pulitzer prize-winning journalist. glenn greenwald, welcome.

>> good to be with you, howie. how'd how'd -- howard: this was not exactly a shock, but as soon as elon musk said the words out loud, there was this thunderous condemnation from the media, musk is evil, how could he possibly allow this threat to democratic crack back -- democracy back on the platform. >> if you think about what he said, the it's on one thing, i want to bring a modicum of free speech back to one platform on the internet, and i think what this freakout reveals is that this regime of censorship that a has been imposed on essentially every major platform on the internet has become extremely important to numerous power centers, the u.s. security state, the democratic party, the u.s. government, all kinds of corporate centers in the united states that any possibility that that weapon might be eroded or weakened asmusing is vowing to do sends them into a frenzy because of how important it has become to them. howard: and so much of that

expressed through the media. there was also this pair of tweets from elon musk. even though i think a less divisive candidate would be better in 2024, i still think trump should be restored to twitter. and that was followed by: biden's mistake is that he thinks he was elected to transform the country when actually everyone just wanted less drama. what does this coto the media effort to paint elon musk as this trump-loving, right-wing nut job? >> i think it's completely bizarre that elon musk, who voted for barack obama in 2012 over mitt romney who's one of the largest supporters of the aclu, who's not saying anything extremist from the perspective of the international community, virtually every country condemned twitter and facebook for banning the sitting president is being labeled a right-wing extremist for doing nothing more than saying i think we need free speech on the platform, for if offering some mild criticisms of donald trump. but this is what's done now, howie, to anybody they want to

demonize it. joe rogan said in 2020 his favorite candidate is bernie sanders, yet he's routinely labeled a far-right extremist. somebody who occasionally deviates from liberal orthodoxy. howard: the guardian quoted musk only appears to be ruined about opinion of a small number of individuals who incite violence or perpetuate hate speech. and musk has made a point of saying on twitter that he doesn't like the far right or the far left are. >> what opinions has he ever expressed that could possibly qualify as far right? again, how is it that somebody who just voted for barack obama over a very conventional republican candidate -- not donald trump, but mitt romney -- someone who donates millions of dollars every year to the aclu which has become a far more left-wing organization who, according to them, is a card-carrying member of the aclu can simultaneously be described

as some far-right zealot. one of the things it shows, and it's alarming, is that free speech has become a value associated with the right because american liberals, and and polling data shows this, overwhelmingly favors censorship now. howard: that's troubling as, particularly, journalists. musk says he's not opposed to a temporary suspension, but he doesn't like permanent bans. if you could justify taking donald trump off twitter after the capitol riot with, here it is nearly a year and a half later, the leader of the republican party, he's probably running again, and there are some people who say musk should not allow him back on because this would be so terrible. >> first of all, look at some of people who are on, the could be prince of saudi arabia with -- crown prince who everybody knows chopped up jamal khashoggi, the head of iran, vladimir putin and various media outlets which i think is how it should be. i want to hear from people who have extreme influence, and certainly donald trump, whatever you think of ill him, is an

important political figure, and he should be able to use the internet like anyone else to be heard. i think that's a public service to hear the from them rather hand try and drive them underground. even jack dorsey, his predecessor at twitter who founded it and ran it, said twitter made a mistake by banning him. howard: by the way, trump doesn't want to come back to twitter because he wants to concentrate on truth social is. i'd be willing to wager trump will say the people have demanded i come back. speak of january 6th, the media had reported that john eastman tried to overturn the election by trying to get state representatives in state states won by biden to endorse alternate slates of trump electors. now the denver post has obtained e-mails with eastman telling a state rep just use a made-up formula, and you'd be left with a significant trump lead. that would help provide some cover.

i know the media obsess on every single january 6th development, but that sounds like a pretty brazen scheme. >> it does, but at the same time it has become a common belief on both sides now that american elections are stolen and illegitimate. democrats believe overwhelmingly the incoming press secretary, for example, has a said the 2016 presidency was stolen through fraud. so if you believe the 2020 election was stolen like eastman does, going to court and trying to convince legislate to haves that you're right, i -- legislators, i personally don't think it's a positive thing because i don't think the ed was there. they tried and failed, and they walked out peacefully on january 20th. yes, there was a riot on january 6th, he wasn't there are, but they transferred power peacefully, and i think calling it a coup or anything like that is just kind of catstizing rhetoric the media loves. howard: absolutely. but at the same time, trump continues to pound this drum day after day after day, and it's one of the reasons it does help

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howard: mark esper, the former pentagon chief fired by donald trump after election, is on a media blitz with plenty of serious allegations against the

former president, and a few journalists are asking why he saved this for his book. >> why now in a book? why didn't you speak out during the trump administration? >> it's very simple. if i spoke out at the time, i would be fired, number one. and secondly, i had no confidence that anyone who came in behind me would not be a real trump loyalist. >> do you think donald trump was a threat to to democracy? >> i think that that given the events of january 6th, begin how he has undermined the election results, he incited people to come to d.c., stirred 'em up that morning and failed to call 'em off. to me, that a threatens our democracy. howard: let's bring in kevin corke who covers the white house for fox news and, kevin, you covered the trump white house. what do wow make of mark esper becoming the latest ex-official joining john bolton and others to trash the former president in a book called "the sacred oath" and his explanation that he had to stay and fight the good fight? >> yeah, and i had to be the

person who would do something to put in check these bad ideas. with but the problem with that mindset is if you're not standing up for the principles that you claim in the book later, it sort of takes the edge off your argument. and i should say this too, the president said, look, this was a guy who lied, he was a stiff, he was desperate not to lose his weight -- howard: lightweight, figurehead -- >> exactly. and when you come at someone like this, you have to say, first of all, why'd you keep him in the job if you thought all these things about him? but critics say esper knew not to to take the wild utter rah answers of a talk first, think second, you know, maverick seriously because he's likely to say anything -- talking about trump -- and not mean any of it. to come back later and say all these things in the book, trump, by the way, says it's the all lies, i have witnesses, i think it takes some of the validity out of his argument. howard: well, some of the allegations are pretty serious, that trump wanted to bomb mexican drug labs, sented 250,000 troops to the -- send

250,000 troops to the border and said of protesters outside the white house, can't you just shoot them in the legs? he was there and this is his firsthand testimony. on the other hand, none of these things actually ended up happening. >> that's exactly right, that's the point. in other words, if you said to me i think we ought to do something completely wild,? let's hear you out x then i have bill barr on my right, someone on my left, you know, mr. president, maybe we ought not do that sort of thing. i think that's usually what happens in the room based on my experience. that said, it doesn't mean what secretary esper said isn't true, it's just if you're saying this now, i'd like to hear what you said at the time. howard: i think if this was such damaging information, maybe they could have let people know earlier -- >> and helped the country, by the way. howard: yeah. the january 6th committee has

subpoenaed house leader kevin mccarthy and four other republicans who are refusing to cooperate voluntarily. it seems they want to go after their political opponents. the press is going with wild over this. taking a step back, even the possibility of a contempt citation against a top house republican and likely next house speaker. >> this is dangerous stuff, howie, and i satiety it this way. having been in the city for a long time, memories are long here. and the very real possibility that a republicans will have control of the house and senate coming up in january really exists. and so you have to be mindful that that, well, if you do this, who's to say they won't do the same thing be it leading up to january 2020, 2021, rather, or the 2016 election. they might do anything, and i think you want to be respectful of your colleagues and also understand that this idea of having it failed -- veiled under this shroud of secrecy, but what exactly is the nature of this particular subpoena? they're refusing to describe it, i think, in full transparency,

and i think that's also a problem. howard: right. of course, the committee claims these members have information about what donald trump was saying and thinking on january 6th. >> yeah. howard: for all the breathless coverage here, isn't it likely that mccarthy and jim jordan and andy biggs and mo brooks and scott perry will just run out the clock through the end of the year, and how much of it is about building calm for the early june hearings by this committee which has been doing this and leaking stuff for so long? >> you nailed it. democrats would love this to be the teleno novella of the summer, but the truth is people are concerned about the economy and other things. i don't know that they get to what they really want to, and i think at the end of the day i'm not so sure guys won't run out the clock anyway and have this go away in 2023. howard: right. basically go nowhere. >> that's right. howard: on the other hand, so much has come out about the committee's investigation. some of it released, some of it reeked. -- leaked.

i wonder how much new will be there once they get under the bright lights in. >> what's interesting here and what's interesting in the rest of the country, if you ask a thousand people are you thinking about that, are you concerned about that? it simply doesn't resonate with most people when you have economy, the border, inflation. i just don't know this'll get to what they really want. howard: not to mention baby formula. >> that's right. howard: kevin corke, great to see you. still to come, jeb psaki defending -- jen psaki defending her successor and tom braid key coming to fox sports. well, eventually. the buzz meter is next. ♪ pleasure. ♪ bring what up, kayak? excuse me? do the research, todd. listen to me, kayak searches hundreds of travel sites to find you great deals on flights, cars and hotels. they're lying to you! who's they? kayak? arr!

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howard: let's get the clock going on the buzz meeter, go. in her final days as white house press secretary, jen psaki was

playing defense for her successor who tweeted in 2016 that donald trump won through a stolen election. psaki told mediaites that jean-pierre has been concerned about reports of russian interference. she also said the new press secretary admits she oversimplified the situation with kemp's georgia win. also a former msnbc contributor called fox news racist two who years ago in an a appearance with joy reid. psaki says she has committed to working with a broad range offed media outlets. -something of a met that had to be cleaned up. cnn has made a decision about longtime anchor and reporter suzanne malvo. saying she will continue as a washington correspondent, she will not cover politics or the white house while karine jean-pierre is serving as white house press secretary.

one america news has backed off allegations of widespread vote iser fraud in georgia, this in connection with the dropping of a lawsuit by two election workers who the network accused of using suitcases to cast illegal ballots. they said georgia officials pound no proud fraud. >> the results of this investigation indicate that ruby freeman and ann create ya shay moss did not engage in criminal misconduct. a legal a matter with network and the two election workers has been resolve to the mutual satisfaction of the parties through the fair and reasonable settlement are. howard: judied wood rough has confirmed that she's stepping down as anchor of pbs' "newshour" but will continue in some role saying she can't imagine it not being part of her life. she's also lined up two suck successor ises. she'sed had a remarkable career going back to her days as an nwc reporter earning a well-deserves

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