the military and civil aviators coming out what the stories of what to treat them as witnesses. not as kooks. >> with more transparency. that's a good point that people should feel free to be able to express themselves up. not hide a secret for 50 years. you have a show in archidust. >> no kooks that they they are rope people with wealth stories. >> thank you. >> harris: shattering records and tampering with our nation's sovereignty. a record month of illegal encounters at our southern border with mexico. it comes as president biden looks to end the policy that was used to expel tens of thousands of illegal immigrants just six days from now. i'm harris faulkner. in april we saw the highest number of encounters in the history of the department of homeland security.

234,000 people trampling the border to get into our nation. that's up by more than 30% from the same time last year, and up more than 350% from april of 2018. republican lawmakers say president biden is not listening to americans' concerns. >> the alien encounters so far since president biden's been in office is more than the population of 15 individual states. we need to make sure we're putting america first and not trying to dodge to issues that are important to the american people. reinstate the remain in mexico policy, support the border patrol agents, finish the wall and we could really see a difference. the president doesn't seem to want to take on these tough issues. >> harris: even with all of that, though, the illegal immigrants are not the only concern. this week authorities announce they found a major drug smuggling tunnel linking tijuana

mexico to southern california. it spans the length of six football fields and is built in what was thought to be one of the most fortified structures of the border. tom homan just returned from a visit to our nation's southern border. he's standing by and will be in focus. first, casey stiegel at the border in laredo texas. >> reporter: while these numbers, frankly, are shocking on paper, out here in the field and out here on the front lines of this crisis they are not all that surprising especially when day in and day out we have seen it with our own eyes and we have been showing our viewers at home. you are looking at live pictures from eagle pass, texas. the team's drone. that has been a hot bed for illegal crossings lately. groups of 100, 200, 300 coming across the river there at one time.

numbers that keep dramatically rising ahead of title 42 ending next monday unless a judge says otherwise. but when you add in the april numbers, that means so far for fiscal year 2022, which began on october 1st, there have been close to 1.3 million total migrant encounters reported at the southern border and still five months left to go. according to those dhs court filings, close to 118,000 migrants were released into the u.s. during april. they reportedly more than 113,000 expulsions, close to 97,000 of those were under the title 42 program, again, expiring next monday. mean time today, dhs secretary mayorkas is visiting the southern border again. she's in the rio grande valley

sector which was a hot bed. we can report he has been out with field agents. he has been doing ride alongs. we expect to hear formal statements from him later today. harris? >> harris: casey, thank you very much. i was just looking at some notes here. we're gonna check in the last time the president went to the border in a moment. title 42 set to end less than a week from today. however, states are fighting back. two dozen republican state's attorneys general are looking to block the end of that public health immigration restriction. border authorities estimate if title 42 is lifted, we will see 18,000 illegal immigrants pouring over the border per day compared with the current number of 6,000 per day. three times as many. a federal judge is expected to rule on it all this week. tom homan, fox news contributor and former acting ice director

is with me on set because i'm on social assignment in d.c. so i get to see you in person. it feels like we're right next to the border. you don't have to be there to see it. we're not far from the white house. have they blocked their windows? >> every month the numbers keep going up. they talk about the secretary. for once why don't he tell the border patrol what the plan is. what's your strategy to secure the border? not once in any of his visits has he told the men and women putting their lives on the line every day what the plan is. they simply want to know what the plan is. >> harris: i mentioned you see the problems from here in washington, d.c. people feel it. they're talking about it now. it's starting to show up in the polling that people say they're concerned about this in a top five stance next to the economy and the other crises we have now. talk about how the legality can help out what's happening. these judges are taking another

look. we saw a stay temporarily on title 42 to get us past may 23rd. >> as long as the democrats control congress, that's what we have. i have written more affidavits than i did as a special agent in 34 years. we're 4-0. we'll keep suing him. i think the judge will uphold title 42. even with title 42 in place the numbers this year are gonna blow last year's numbers out of the water and last year's numbers were historic. >> harris: talk about why that happens even before title 42. you told me something off camera. title 42 just recently wasn't being applied the way it was supposed to anyway. we already saw an encroachment toward what democrats say they want. >> exactly. under the trump administration, everyone was expelled. under the biden administration, 85% of families were let in.

unaccompanied children were all let in. many single adults that didn't speak spanish were brought in. they've never done title 42 at the level the trump administration had done. now they've been ordered to reinstate remain the mexico and they haven't done it. i think they need to hold mayorkas in contempt of court. >> harris: hold mayorkas in contempt of court. we've seen him sit in that hot seat. last time we saw him was the same exact day that the dhs, with him leading it, rolled out the disinformation governance board. you can't even make that up. all right. i want to get to this. the president has not visited the border since taking office. well, there it is. a new poll shows 34% of people approve of the president's handling of immigration and border security.

58% disapprove. and recent fox news poll shows 71% of our voters say they are extremely or very concerned about illegal immigration. 63% want title 42 restrictions to stay in place. and some of that, when you drill down into the polling, by the way, tom, some of that is because there's no plan in place to deal with the surge that's coming for a whole host of reasons. it's warmer weather. it's something they can cross very easily. we don't have enough of everything that we need. >> i think the numbers would be higher than 63% if people understood what was going on. i don't care what your position on illegal immigration is. when border patrol is so overwhelmed that last month they got 60,000 got aways. 70,000 got aways since he became president. we know they come from 161 different country, some who sponsor terrorism. border patrol already arrested

42 people on the terror screening database. here's the problem. how many of the 700,000 were on the terror screening database? regardless of what your position on illegal immigration is, this has become a national security issue. >> harris: is that knowable by this administration? the numbers keep changing. first they were a couple dozen. now it's many more than that who we know now as potential terrorists on that list. >> it's not just terrorists either, harris. you're talking about criminals. border patrol already arrested 20,000 criminals. how many of the 700,000 were criminals that didn't get arrested? most importantly, remember the fentanyl overdoses record high. it's not a coincidence 50% of border patrol off the line taking care of this crisis, fentanyl is pouring across the border killing americans. >> harris: i know you have led so many men and women who want to do their jobs at the border. they're very dedicated. i mentioned we don't have enough of what we need. do people want to be border

agents right now? >> men and women of the border patrol, 20,000 american patriots. their morale is in the tank but they continue to put that uniform on. the morale is nonexistent. they feel they've been abandoned by the president of the united states and secretary of homeland security. >> harris: he needs to go down there. tom, thank you for being with me. voters are hitting the polls for high profile elections. in the swing state of pennsylvania, republican senate candidate dave mccormack cast his vote a few minutes ago. the combat veteran and former treasury department official was one of the twin front runners in the race along with dr. oz, host of popular tv program. you know him. and the battleground state race encountering some last minute twists and turns. in recent weeks vetted ran and political commentator kathy barnett surged in the polls making the race a three way clash for the republican nomination. and some drama on the democrat side as well.

front runner john fedderman suffered a stroke two days before the vote. he is competing in a four person field which includes three-term congressman connor lamb. all of these twists and turns as pennsylvania could be the deciding factor in the balance of the senate come november's midterm elections. 175 days from that, november 8th. you know i'm counting. well, he says the real president is who ever controls the teleprompter. elon musk's new war of words with the biden white house. gas prices hitting a record high for the eighth day in a row. and this is getting some buzz across the country. >> did you mean it in the context of labor force participation just feels callous to me. >> there is spillover into participation. >> harris: a senator's response

that struck a chord with millions of people. after a top administration official said that ending abortion rights would be bad for the economy. especially bad because poor black women couldn't get abortions. senator tim scott in focus for an exclusive interview. if you're a veteran, own your home, and need cash, call newday usa.

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>> roe v. wade and reproductive health care including abortion helped lead to increased labor force participation. >> i was raised by a single mom who worked long hours to keep us out of poverty. i think framing it in context of

labor force participation is, just feels callous to me. >> there is spillover into labor force participation in many cases, abortions are of teenage women, particularly low income and often black who aren't in a position to be able to care for children. >> i'll say as a guy raised by a black woman in about skwrebgt poverty, i am thankful to be here as a united states senator. >> harris: that was part of an exchange heard around the world. last week between republican senator tim scott of south carolina and treasury secretary janet yellen. it struck a chord with millions of people. now the senator has written a new op ed published today in "the washington post." it's titled abortion is not the way to help single black mothers. senator scott joins me now in an exclusive interview in focus.

first of all, welcome. >> thank you very much. >> harris: i want to know what went through your mind as she was saying those words? translate what you heard and why you felt -- because it was very uncharacteristic to see you at times just lean in so hard. why did you feel like you needed to? >> i was compelled to do so. i could not believe my ears. she was responding to a question, so it was completely unprepared, unfiltered. and her response was to, in my opinion, provide a calloused approach and a solution remedy for blacks living in poverty and abortion. as a guy raised by a powerful black woman in poverty in a single parent household, i know that sometimes broken places is where you find brilliance. i know sometimes hard work and dedication and perseverance pays off handsomely. you and i both know the truth of the story is the american journey continues to evolve in

the right direction. frankly, even secretary yellen's words should have been thought through much better. less than 10% of abortions are teenagers. to put the face of abortion being poor women making a choice so they can increase the labor force participation rate? it's just unbelievable. >> harris: that statistic, it would be young black girls. i mean, now telling me fewer than 10% are even part of what she's describing. i wonder if she knows the facts on that. >> i got to believe that she did. it seems like whenever someone needs a poster child of brokenness, they go to african-americans. that's not our story. our story's a story of victory. our story is triumphing after circumstances. it should be told as part of the american story. we, as americans, we are the

solution. we shouldn't have fewer americans, we should have more americans. you want to increase our labor force participation rate? choose life. >> harris: you wrote in your op ed about the treasury secretary. here's a quote. we live in a world where words are too often disconnected from the lived experiences of many americans. yellen's cold and robotic reference to the issue of life is just the latest example of that. what did you mean by that? >> couple things. first, when you hear her words and you see my lived experience, your lived experience. so many american, millions of us, started in poverty. 97% of those who are rich today were in poverty two generations ago. my grandfather was picking cotten. he lived long enough to watch his grandson get a seat in congress. when you think about the fact that the words that people speak are disconnected from the

reality, you hear that inflation is good for people living in poverty. nothing is further from the truth. you know that baby formula is hard to find, but you knew that several months ago and you did nothing with it. it's almost as if the administration wants us to believe what they are saying as opposed to what we are seeing. >> harris: yeah. hear the words out of their mouth, not what we see them doing. >> and lived reality. >> harris: fema has stock piles of this. of course. if there's a hurricane or tornado, they got to have baby formula. what if hospitals run out because we have a disaster? i mean, it is mind boggling. that was a good example of that. i want to get to more of your words. >> yes. >> harris: i don't know in the time that i have covered you as a journalist that i have heard you write so passionately. you also wrote in your new op ed in "the washington post" if abortion is our best and first answer to ensure women in low income familys can thrive economically, the united states

has reached one of its darkest times in our history. senator? >> there's no doubt that when you think about those words that she spoke and the truth of our existence, we should be leaning in to the solution that is our nation and is the story of american evolution. i certainly believe that hard times produces our best results. frankly -- >> harris: that's for everybody. did you get that? that's so true. there are a lot of people going through hard times now. >> that's it. >> harris: parents with a deficit of baby formula shortage. >> we always have hard times. that's just the truth of our existence. there's always tragedy then triumph. always obstacles then opportunities. always problems then promise. one of the things that makes me excited about where we are as a country is that the hardest times i have lived through made me a better person and made me more compassionate toward others. so i hate to hear that those hard times should be eliminated by eliminating my life.

that's a stretch and one that i just have to speak out against. >> harris: you know, when president trump was in office, you and he worked on opportunity zones. i really got to do the drilldown on all of that. >> yes. >> harris: can you explain where we are now? there was a lot of money spent. what happened to those areas? it wasn't just people of color. high tide lifts all boats. those communities were touched by the fact that somebody was focusing on them. >> one of the silver linings that we can see now looking back at the pandemic is prepandemic, 2019, we saw $29 billion enter into private sector dollars, by the way, going to the poorest zip codes in america. because of that we saw the poverty rate hit the lowest ever recorded in the history of this country. that's the kind of insulation you want going into a pandemic. we saw african-american unemployment below 6% for the first time in the history of the country. we saw wages for the bottom 25%

grow faster than the top 25%. going into the pandemic actually gave us insulation so that confronting the global pandemic, people without resources had more money, more opportunity than they had seen in their life times. frankly, women had a 70 year low in unemployment. translating into the pandemic, we had more resistance than we would have had had it not been for the economic success and policies of the trump administration going into that pandemic. when you talk about the fragility of life and the harshness of circumstances, like a global pandemic, we should stand up straight, put our shoulders back and be confident that we shall survive this, too. not quit in the middle. it's that resiliency that is part of the dna of america that we should be focusing on. >> harris: wow. those are powerful words. not quit in the middle. some people would say, and some of them are even doctors i have

interviewed, that with the lockdowns and increasing pressure on the american people to solve the pandemic with their own behavior and not feeding us enough of the true science, the changes that we were seeing, that that was quitting in the middle. your last quick words? >> america is always a solution, not the problem. if we lean in as one american family, we find greatness within us. unfortunately, pressure typically is necessary to reveal the jewels that we are. so whether you are talking about african-americans surviving the last few hundred years of american existence and coming out better, whether you're talking about the brokenness and poverty in rural america. one thing we know about the american family, we are better together. we find solutions. and the greatest of our opportunities don't come from washington. they come from neighborhoods and

garages and libraries and apartments where people come up with the most amazing and remarkable results. >> harris: amen. senator tim scott, wow. i have to say again covering you, we haven't seen you lean in like this. you're passionate about this. and america gets to benefit by hearing your words and giving us that thing most of us know but we need to be reminded of. that we're so much better than the words of someone who doesn't see our potential. so much better than that. >> absolutely, harris. >> harris: thank you. another weekend, unfortunately, more deaths in chicago under mayor lightfoot's watch. now teenagers at the forefront of the city's out of control violence. and the baby formula crisis, well, it's not really going away. the government says it's not a little bit of a plan but remember mid, late summer, how are they going to fare, these families, without formula for

months? >> this administration once again fumbled the ball, letted a problem grow to epic proportions to now where we have american mothers and fathers scrambling to get their kids fed. biden is asleep at the wheel once again and americans are hurting as a result. >> harris: well, on this new day for the crisis, the biden administration is speaking. parents and even the liberal media are demanding answers and solutions so they have to speak now, the white house. riders! let your queries be known. uh, how come we don't call ourselves bikers anymore? i mean, "riders" is cool, but "bikers"...is really cool. -seriously? -denied. can we go back to meeting at the rec center? the commute here is brutal. denied. how do we feel about getting a quote to see if we can save with america's number one motorcycle insurer? should flo stop asking the same question every time? -approved! -[ altered voice ] denied! [ normal voice ] whoa.

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hmmm. but still no formula. 43% of formula now, because of not doing anything, is out of stock. the fda estimates it's affecting at least 2.7 million babies nationwide. now the fda is studying it and giving us percentages. wow. even the liberal media are losing their patience. >> sounds good if you don't have a baby who is hungry. sounds terrifying if you do. >> as quickly as we can get abbott and manufacturers to make sure that they can increase product again because it is safe to consume. >> i'm just wondering if you can give me something clearer, in terms of quantity and days and weeks or months. is it days? is it weeks? is it going to be a few months? >> the question is more properly posed to abbott because abbott is the one that can guarantee the safety. >> harris: you mean the white house and the administration

haven't gotten on the phone with abbott for a timeline? you do that when you order furniture for your house. you get the timeline of delivery so you can be home when it gets there. new white house press secretary offering up some deflection. >> we've been working on this 24/7. getting more safe formula on to shelves across the country is one of the president's top priorities. we have been working on this since we learned about this back in february. it's important to remember the shortage exists because abbott closed the facility, closed a facility because of safety concerns from the fda. >> harris: so in january and in february when lawmakers were sending letters to this administration saying we need help in our states, you got josh hawley in missouri where they are at the below 50% level on their shelves for sometime. when you heard from them at the white house, apparently they

thought they'd just blame abbott when they have a stock pile with fema. i could go all day. breaking this hour, nestle announced that it has brought shipments of formula from europe to the united states. nestle is going to help. jason rance, seattle radio talk show host in focus. i want to get your top line thoughts on how this has played out. >> i think it's rather interesting the optics of this. you have the democratic party fighting for the right to an abortion of a child but they are not fighting for the right to feed a child. it feels to me like we could also be rallying for the mothers and fathers who are trying to get their kids fed, yet we're not getting any sense of urgency. they can claim all they want that they've been working on this since february. if it's true, of course it is not, that is total incompetence. that is only failure. they have only acted this last

week because of the political pressure they couldn't ignore any more. >> harris: when i bring up the fda and fema, it is not just on a lark. we have weather disasters in this country. we have to have stock piles. she sits at the ranking member on the fema subcommittee and homeland. congress woman kaymack on the shortage on the focus yesterday. >> i, for the last year, have been going after fema and the administration asking why they spent over $130 million out of the food and emergency temporary housing budget to fly and bus illegals around the united states instead of using those funds for americans. they have been paying for plane tickets and bus tickets and they've spent over $130 million through ngo's. they don't want to give us the information. >> harris: she is really pushing, jason. this is a bona fide emergency

and we didn't tap that. we didn't go there because a lot of those funds are being spent elsewhere. >> absolutely. and remember, we released some gasoline from our reserves and that has no impact whatsoever on the crisis. and yet this would have an impact on the crisis, releasing some of this baby formula, but they are choosing not to do that because they don't understand the priorities of the american people. they're busy on all of these other issues that have nothing to do with the day to day lives of americans. that's where they are focused. we do not come first under this administration and mothers can absolutely say they definitely don't come first. >> harris: transportation secretary, we know he needs formula. two little ones, he and his husband. he was speaking yesterday about baby formula and the shortage, so on so forth. but he's in privilege land. no one has a doubt he can get his on some. a weekend of chaos and violence, exceptional even for chicago.

a mob of hundreds of unruly teens essentially taking over the city's so called millennium park. it's a place where they like to gather. mayor lightfoot announced an extension of the weekend park curfew for minors after a 16-year-old was shot and killed by another teenager in that park. chicago police say over the weekend there were at least 33 shootings with 9 minors, young victims. five people were killed, three of them minors. wall street journal op ed called out the mayor for presiding over a massacre, as usual, in chicago adding, if you want to understand chicago's public order problem in a nut shell, there it is. normal policing is considered criminalizing youth as opposed to getting criminals off the streets. instead, the mayor won't let unaccompanied teens visit a city park alone in the evenings on weekends. does anybody really believe this will make a difference, assuming it is even enforced?

jason? >> yeah. well, number one, it likely won't be enforced because we have a chicago police department that doesn't have the staff it needs because of all the democratic policies that ended up leading to this mass exodus of police officers. on top of that, i'm glad she's talking about it, i suppose. we have to have bigger conversation about the family structure in this country and why that is in large part why so many teenagers are straying and going down the path way of violence. but again, we don't really hear these stories every single day outside of fox news. i wonder why that is. it's pretty simple. you can easily politicize a mass shooting on the left and that's what they do on msnbc and cnn and the new york times and washington post. they'll talk about that because they can use it to go after republicans. yet somehow they can't talk about the daily murders that go on in cities like chicago and others. why? because they can't politicize it. because they don't want to go after their own. every once in awhile they tiptoe

into those conversation wondering if lori lightfoot is the right person to handle this crisis. but for the most part they turn away because they can't target republicans. that's why, in large part, we continue to see this crime. no one's paying attention outside a very few voices. >> harris: you mean they can't target democrats in all of that? >> exactly. >> harris: just real quickly on lori lightfoot. she has come quite a distance. i mean, there was the defund the police and oh my gosh, we need help. we need this. we can't fight all the crime. to she can't handle this chaos of teenagers. school is still in session. imagine, oh, i don't know, a month. your last thoughts? >> i wish show could step back and say, i screwed up. i apologize. but no one on the left -- >> harris: there's that word. tom homan mentioned it, too, about the border and the white house. a plan. something that we don't leave

our house with when we leave our house. we have to have a plan. something we can't live without. whether we nail it or not, it's always a good suggestion to have is a plan. jason rantz, thank you very much. graduation season is upon us, school is ending and permanently for some as they look ahead. probably not a big shock, the country's top schools reportedly are not keen on conservative commencement speakers at all. not at all. plus, raging inflation is on everybody's mind. >> the obvious reason for inflation is the government printed more money than it had, obviously. very basic. this is not like super complicated. >> harris: the world's two richest business men not at all happy with the economy, and they are taking on president biden over it. power panel next.

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>> the real president is who ever controls the teleprompter.

you know? the path to power is the path to the teleprompter. this is very basic -- this is not like, you know, supercomplicated. various countries have tried this experiment multiple times. have you seen venezuela? the poor people of venezuela have been rough shod by their government. >> harris: elon musk with some teaching words for president biden on the economy. and the tech billionaire is not alone. the world's second richest man, jeff bezos schooling the white house on inflation. the white house responding with some snark. it doesn't require a huge leap to figure out why one of the wealthiest individuals on earth

opposes an economic agenda for the middle class. look, a squirrel. they understandably want to muddy the topic. they know inflation hurts the neediest the most. that's his quote, his tweet. the press secretary, yikes, caught off guard. >> how does raising taxes on corporations lower the cost of gas, the cost of a used car, the cost of food for every day americans? >> i think we encourage those who have done very well, right? especially those who care about climate change to support a fairer tax code. >> what does it have to do with inflation? >> cut some of the biggest costs families face. fights inflation for the long haul. that's why we're talking about lower inflation lear. adds to the historic deficit reduction the president is achieving by asking the richest taxpayers to pay their fair share. >> harris: not an easy job. we want to get her some tabs for

that giant binder so she can get to those answers quicker. it's tough. it's gonna get tougher. power panel. shawn duffy. desereetims and president and ceo at innovation ohio. great to see you. desiree, i'm gonna start with you. sometimes you'll hear the words blind spot when it comes to people in power missing something. i don't know how you miss inflation though. what is it for the white house that they have not figured out, i don't know, just a key plan that they can say we're working on it? point to these dots. >> the biden administration has done a lot to combat inflation. look, we have been climbing our way -- >> harris: what have they done? >> the american rescue plan. making sure that people had access to more money for their children such as the child tax credits which benefitted a lot of lower class and working americans. there's also making sure people have the stimulus checks to meet

their obligations at the end of the month when people were forced to stay home because of the pandemic. it's not like this came out of nowhere. we've all been very aware of what's happening in our country and in countries around the world due to the pandemic. look, inflation is real. people feel it at the grocery store, at the pump. it's something we have to address and we have to fix. >> harris: i'll have shawn hit the american rescue plan and checks some of which $100 billion were, like the ppe, keeping that in place in terms of checks for small and midsize businesses. you mention gas prices. so many days in a row now. a record again. $4.52 per gall that's up $0.15 from a week. $0.52 from a month ago. it's the eighth day in a row that the average price of a gallon of gasoline has broken a record. shawn? >> so, harris, politics of this

are not very good but this is what democrats want. when i was in the house, i would hear squad members and other democrats talk about the desire to have the cost of gas go up so people would make a transition to green energy. this is all part of the plan. yes, the politics are tough. they see a light at the end of the tunnel. they get to accomplish their green new deal. we're talking about inflation. we've been talking about the federal reserve printing money over the course of the last ten years. that's been ramped up under donald trump. we had the cares about $2.2 trillion, $900 billion more at the end of his presidency. on top of that, joe biden spent $2.2 trillion, $1.9 trillion in another covid relief package then $1.2 trillion on infrastructure which only a small part of it was for infrastructure. then on top of that, he wanted to spend $3.5 trillion on build back better. the spending, harris, is

massive. when you put more money into the economy, you devalue the dollar and it's worthless. that's what you are seeing happen here with inflation. >> harris: that's such basic math. like, that is irrespective of politics, which is what has he scratching my head, desiree, when you say there's a long list of stuff he's done to alleviate the inflation. then he's not good of his job because the math is basic. if you're doing something that -- if you keep spending, and you know you can't spend your way out of inflation, you got to try something else, unless you're woefully bad at what you do. it's college graduation season. that means conservative speakers are getting shut out of commencements. a new report says only three of the 100 top ranked universities in the nation will host high profile conservative speakers. 53 of those top ranked schools will host liberal speakers, among them president biden at the university of delaware. that's his home. i get it. nancy pelosi at brown. i'll go in reverse order now.

shawn, your thoughts on this? >> well, listen, am i surprised? no. this is the center of wokeness on college campuses. of course they don't want to invite conservative speaker. this just exemplifies a problem you have on campus. conservative thought isn't welcome. but also another problem. the administrators have to deal with woke students that will, one, protest conservative speakers if they come in. they will protest liberal speakers when they come in. the kids in american colleges are out of control. they think they run the institution. time for administrators to say, we're going to have all thoughts welcome on our college campus and especially for commencement. >> harris: it would be that way. it's free speech. we don't want to hear from just one section of the young people. we want to hear from all of them. desiree, your thoughts on this? >> i think the student body has a say and choice in who comes to speak at their school. the students are not out of control. they're spending tens of

thousands in tuition. look, we know a lot of universities and colleges have more liberal students. that's why republicans are creating voter i.d. laws to attack and intimidate college students from voting at the polls. it's nothing new. >> harris: oh boy. we've got to go. but i'm gonna bring you back. great to see you, desiree and sean. enjoy this quick break before "outnumbered" gets going. if you're a veteran, own your home, and need cash, call newday usa. i'm tatiana, here to say you can get an average of $60,000 with the newday 100 cash out loan. that's at least 25% more cash than you get at a bank. it lowers your payments by an average of $600 a month, too. with today's soaring home values, the time to turn your equity into cash is right now.

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