this weekend. he said his goal is to become the youngest person ever to scale yosemite's famous mountain. currheld by a 9-year-old. all right, signing out. ♪♪ ♪♪ >> hello, i am alicia acuna along with joey jones and tyrus joining us shortly. welcome to the big saturday show. we begin with fox news alert. details emerge in the uvalde texas school massacre after the texas department of safety director admitted the on scene commander at robb elementary

made shocking errors during their response. the school district police department held active shooter training at the high school just two months ago. lieutenant governor of texas is calling out mistakes of the school districts police chief earlier. >> he will live with us the rest of his life but he was in charge, the incident commander, he made that decision to hold and he'll have to live with that the rest of his life but make no mistake, no police man ran out, they stayed and in the end, border patrol or a combination of people led by border patrol went in against this assault weapon, police, individuals did the right thing, they were brave. alicia: just pull is live in uvalde with the latest. >> and the more we learn about what happened during the hour to hour and a half of the shooting, the more difficult it gets to

the community to grasp reality of losing 19 kids and two teachers, one of those we are learning despite investigators saying the shooter was confronted, that is not true. we are learning one of the teachers on campus opened a door a minute before the suspect struck near the school and left the door propped open. we are learning 19 officers stood in the hallway nearly an entire hour before border patrol agents showed up with a master key to open the door to enter and kill the suspect. while the clock was ticking, investigators say children were calling 911 begging for operators to send police in to help. texas dps says the incident commander at the time believed the mass shooting tips into a barricaded situation but they say looking at it now, it was the wrong call. >> the benefit of hindsight where i am now, it was the wrong decision, there is no excuse but

i wasn't there but from what we know, we believe should have been as soon as we could. >> as the community tries to navigate what happened, many of them are taking the time to gather at the city's center, 21 are there to represent the 19 kids and two teachers killed. some lay flowers, some standing in silence not knowing how something like this could have happened, one grandmother who lost her grandmother's spending a powerful emotional message. [sobbing] their babies, they are kids, don't forget them please. [sobbing] i beg you. >> the city is bracing itself for a visit from president joe biden and first lady jill biden,

they will be here tomorrow to try to sum how comfort the community. alicia: jeff pull in uvalde texas, thank you. joey, i'm going to begin with you, it's hard to have this discussion after hearing that grandmother and every detail that we hear gets ever worse but i want you to take a listen to what the governor said and his theory as things unfold. take a listen. >> i was misled, i am livid about what happened and as everybody has learned, the information i was given turned out in part to be an accurate. alicia: you know, there is a

natural tendency for the governor, we know this governor well, members of law enforcement to come to the defense of enforcement always, this is a strange space to be in right now. >> is compounded by the fact that these parents are hurting and they don't have anyone to hold account. the person with a gun is dead, he's took his own life so you have this pain and frustration and anger and where are you going to take it? it doesn't mean it's not warranted, everybody there is wanted to be upset. if one life, 21 lives were taken, if one's life could have been saved reaching the door earlier, that's an egregious mistake but mistakes are one thing, lack of integrity is another. i think i saw a tweet today, an article in new york times said 12 different times the story has changed since it happened.

now some of that is not having all the information together but it seems, i say it seems because i know what everybody on the show knows which is not all of it but it seems like people were not telling the truth to cover their own tracks or because they didn't remember it correctly, it is appalling to think something this tragic and smear on top of that local politics of people not telling the truth what happened i believe the governor when he says we are going to get to the bottom of it i believe dps commander director, whatever they find out they will let us know, transparency will face lives for the next incident that hopefully doesn't happen and that's the best we can hope for obviously in the aftermath of this. alicia: we do have lisa boothe now joining us to enter into the discussion. we are learning about these kids calling 911 to no avail, one

young girl called multiple times asking for help. >> it's so disheartening and hard to imagine how police officers could sit outside knowing and hearing children likely being slaughtered inside, it defies logic how any human being could sit by and do nothing, i think it is the society we need to get to the line, why do we keep producing broken young men, average age ten to 18 and i think it's because we are a broken society, we are producing broken people and if you think about it, we devalue the things that give people meaning in life and purpose in life. god, family, community and we put the emphasis on things, it leaves young people feeling empty and not having a purpose in life and if you look at the shooter and his family, dad not in the picture, mom allegedly on

drugs, grandfather as a rap sheet, criminal record so i think we need to address the why, look inward as a society and figure out these reasons why we keep producing broken young men. alicia: and tyrus, almost immediately and productively politics entered into this rather quickly, people went to their quarters and we saw both sides, we saw democrats and republicans do it, texas gubernatorial candidate beto o'rourke interrupt a news conference early on and i want your reaction. >> no, talk this over -- sir, you are out of line. sir, you are out of line. sir, you are out of line. please leave this auditorium. alicia: tyrus. >> i think it's important everybody sitting in these

chairs only aftermath experts, some of us just need to shut up and just listen. a tragedy happened because the monster had a good plane and time to prepare and no one was expecting it. bad calls were made, police chief made a bad call, he thought was a hostage situation when it wasn't and he will have to live with that the rest of his life. i think he probably should resign, i would resign. if he made the right call, there would be a statute in his honor but 19 children are gone, two teens are gone and let's not cloud it with who's fault, we know whose fault it is and he's dead so we need to remember the grandma, remember the children. we have too many soft targets in our society. schools are soft targets. why does it keep happening? why are they a target? they can be.

protect our air force and banks and sporting events, everyone who makes more than couple hundred thousand a year will have security systems and nice gates, even bodyguards. our government has security nonstop but yet our schools don't. so you want the answer? the answer is protecting our schools ahead of time, planning for this and accept the fact that in this country we are proud of on every corner and every neighborhood we have to think about there's a monster in there waiting to do something. there's bad people in our society since society started the we have this thing where we live in fake first world problems and don't pay attention to stuff and everyone who's come forward to talk about this, he was doing this and this, shame on you. where were you before? coming out now you saw a tweet, his messages, where were you before? i go back to the grandmother and beto o'rourke, i almost wish governor abbott would have left

him talk because he was there to crash, there to try to use this as a statement so i'm not going to justify his reasons but shame on him because i'm going to go back to what grandma said, remember the children. we got to protect the schools and blaming law enforcement isn't the way. alicia: i couldn't agree more. warning signs, social media about the uvalde school attacker, that's next.

we are back with a fox news alert, you warning signs about the uvalde school shooter are emerging. he made threats to the you will school shooter. a social media that allows users to join live audio chat rooms. some users call it tender for kids and the washington post wrote this, he posted images of strange messages and joked about sexual assault. in a video from a live chat room listeners recorded and reviewed by the post, he could be heard saying everyone in this world

deserves to be raped. tyrus, obviously there's a lot of discussion about you will, facebook and things posted but is there is culpability when you look at social media in the way that it isolates and brings peoples indoors and in line, is it something we should look at, the isolation aspect? >> a couple things we should look at. take for example, everyone on this panel probably has had their social media account shaded, monitored, reduced, make sure your stuff doesn't get out there. you say certain things, your account will be suspended and they do it with their heads held high and even made a board to make sure no one says anything bad about the government. where are you people when there's keywords and anyone types the word rape on a chat or says it online, there should be a red flag. shooting, hurting people, red

flag. you do it for everything else, why not for this? everyone coming forward now, shame on them. where were you before? twenty-one people aren't going home and families are ruined forever because you waited. i'm telling you right now, i don't care if it was my best friend, my own child, if i received a text talking about wanting to hurt or raped somebody, i'm turning that in. i'm getting them help or -- i'm going to do something about it. could more things to be done? 1000%, we have the technology to do it and every one of us especially on this panel, not aggressive thought, just different ideals watched, pressure on social media and these companies, these billion-dollar privately owned companies don't have the technology every time you say pat i'll have 5000 algorithms for different hats showing up at my feet, you can't do anything about this? shame on you. >> this is what 116-year-old

said about the shooter, he said i witnessed him harass girls and threaten them sexual assault, raping, kidnapping, not like a single occurrence, it was frequent according to the washington post, his friends reported the account for bullying and other infractions dozens of times. this individual never heard back and the account remained active. is it helpful to revisit this? you think something could have been done? is a something that should have been looked at moving forward? >> differently revisit, you obviously can't bring the kids back into old goals but hopefully can continue to build the case to our government that there are ways to prevent this. tyrus brought up great points right in front of our face, we hear people talk about you can censor conservatives and take the president of twitter but you

won't take a dictator threatening to take israel off the map, let's make it personal. our phones can customize advertisements to our search history that we don't use the same technology to maybe filter what's happening on social media that can be harmful to other people that can be a real threat. sir secret service released a study, i don't have it in front of me but i remember they studied 100 viable school shooting threats recorded that were found out and stopped. out of that 175% of them -- 75 of them had commonalities that were red flags that could have been used to prevent it and most of them it was because they were thwarted. we are settings once we stop, we don't need to talk about them on tv because they are not a tragedy but to move that into stopping every single one of them so we need to take a serious like tyrus was saying. >> one thing i think a lot of the media struggles with, how do

we do our jobs covering this, informing the public without giving the infamy to the shooters? what are your thoughts on that and how to find the balance, the importance of that? >> personally as a reporter, i do everything i can not to say the perpetrators name. twenty-three years ago last month i was standing in front of my high school talking about the shooters killed 12 students and the teacher and we put their names out everywhere and slowly but surely we learned that doesn't help. obviously this doesn't stop them. one other thing, what keeps coming to mind for me is 9/11. after 9/11 all we heard was is if you see something, say something. that led to a lot of false alarms but also led to a lot of instances where a real threat was stopped. now, we didn't have social media

back in columbine, the perpetrators were making journals and diaries talking about everything they wanted to do, you know how the perpetrator advertising everywhere multiple times and you have people who lived around him and i'm not saying it's his fault that there were people around him who saw signs they could have done something about it and if we start to get used to see something say something when it comes to mental health issues and behaviors like been fascinated with rape, kidnapping, murder and harming animals, those are every red like you can think of. >> very well said, great discussion, guys. moving on, not for fallen soldiers, this memorial day, joey talked with richard about the special tribute on the track, that's next. you're not going to want to miss this, i promise you.

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♪♪ >> welcome back to the big saturday show. nascar will honor fallen service numbers of the coca-cola 600 and today i got a chance to talk with my buddy about what it means to honor those who laid their life down serving our country. >> today such a special day to honor the ones we've lost, navy seals, army, all our cars, one

of my favorite races because it means so much to me to honor our fallen. >> your role is unique, one of the people who turn this into an international sport but also a family business. your son, your grandson often drives this car so when you set up on a day like today, solemn and memorializing the heroes of this country and you see your grandson on the tracks inheriting opportunity you worked for and he's earned, how american is that? >> it is in something i've wanted to do since a little kid, johnny, i can remember the bass pro car, he was 14 or 15 years old, he's been with him ever since, and also family. look at the fans, with got so many children, families and they are racing today.

>> why is this synonymous with patriotism of all sports, different sports do different things, why is it that nascar has organically has been patriotic? >> fans want to see, they love this country and without our military and sacrifices way back to many wars before us and have saved this country and that's what we are honoring today, tomorrow in the coke 600 so the plans, teams, nascar, we all love this country and anything we do to showcase our veterans, say something positive about this country and say something about the ones we've lost to say that all to be here today doing what we are doing. >> every racecar will have a name on the windshield, it's going to be a fallen hero. i know you've done this a few

years now, cars on the tracks, what is it mean to you? >> it means so much and we are going to have some of the navy seals, we got the gold star families, they will be here when the coke 600 a few years ago, we gave the windshield to the family, had josh, he owned the windshield, he won the rights, we took the windshield off and give it to him, a special and emotional moment. >> richard, such a humble guy. the 20-dollar racecar and turned it into a $600 million business and continues to give back in so many ways. you are a professional athlete, he looked at nascar, you don't have racecars but you can get it done inside of local. >> if i could fit in the car, i would sure try but it's not made for me. >> i would like to see that.

>> but don't get it twisted, i am hell on wheels and a truck so monster trucks could be in my future, who knows? but you know what? we needed good news, something to feel good about and there's a couple of things to think when it comes to america, apple pie, hot dog and a baseball game and now we see honoring troops at nascar, this is great. i was a jeff gordon guy myself so i'm looking for a new guy to root for and it will be on my tv this weekend so it's good for the country, good for us and nothing brings people together and watching cars drive around at high speeds. >> lisa, on this topic about nascar this unique sport, it is still family owned, the national brand is family owned, they have corporate america in fall but they are not corporate america ran and driven. you can meet the drivers and see

that you are in florida probably not too far from daytona, have you made it to a race, experienced this yourself? >> i feel on the spot because i've not and it's something i need to do, absolutely and maybe that's why peel feel like nascar is that family element. i love they are doing this because we remind this country of the sacrifices so many people made, people like you, joey, individuals honoring and remembering and paying the ultimate sacrifice. the best thing we can do to honor those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice, to be judicious with going to war in the future, understanding the cost of work, learning from past mistakes and being very careful whenever we send men and women to war in the future so i love you did that you did such a good job and i'm glad you're doing that as well. >> it really is, i've had probably close to a dozen

buddies featured on somebody's car the last ten years so to come see this, it is personal for me and warms my heart. >> we need to get you on one. >> what i love about it is the gold star families come to a track and they see it. we are talking about memorial day, a day of celebration as much as it is anything, it's about knowing we can do whatever we want to do but we do it in a way that allows us to honor those men and women, memorial day messages, we talk about nascar and honoring these men and women. >> i have to come to the fact that it never been to a nascar -- >> thank you, i appreciate that. >> you are not alone. [laughter] >> god bless you for bringing -- >> we are so lost in our sorrowd gratitude again, something to smile about and we are so very

grateful, the loss we've experienced as a country through these servicemen and women and we do honor them. thank you for the reminder, joey. >> absolutely. coca-cola 600, you can do that tomorrow night 6:00 p.m. eastern on fox. millions of people facing record high prices and inflation this memorial day weekend. what it's like to tell rate in a biden's america. we will talk about that next. ♪♪

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welcome back to the big saturday show, memorial day weekend celebrations across the country tempered by skyhigh inflation. the cost of everything is way up this year. gas, food, staples like ground beef, hotdogs and chips to name a few looking for someone to blame? so is the president who refuses to take accountability. >> first cause of inflation is once in a century pandemic. this year we have a second cause, mr. putin's war in ukraine. pelicans love to attack me as a big spender as if that's a reason why inflation has gone up. >> you believe you and your administration bears responsibly for inflation we are seeing? >> we have 50/50 in the senate, 60 goes to get things done. >> you think it's your responsibly -- >> our policies help, not hurt.

>> okay, tyrus, i'll begin with you because you drive a big truck, i will put up numbers on gas prices. look at the gas prices, this time last year, memorial day last year, $3.4 a gallon. today it is $4.60, that's 51.3% increase. who you blame? >> just like any time, if you are the president of the united states, its own your watch but the buck state here, there's nothing worse than the american spirit than a leader who points fingers back at you. how do we fix this? putin did it, it was trump administration, it was the pandemic, supposedly you have the answer for all this. it goes to answer your question, i work in new york four days a week but only get to drive my truck three days a week but still -- >> you can only think about your

chart, okay. >> it cost about $200 to fill my truck. $200, i have to stop because most gas pumps only go to $100 and then you have to go to another pump and fill up again so i am fortunate and blessed to have a couple of paychecks coming in, i'm doing okay, i have good things going on but imagine for the families working 80 hours a week making 15 to $20 an hour, this is a nightmare. there is no vacation movies, no trips to disneyland not to mention the fact you get on the highway, you have to worry about internal smugglers everywhere depending on what town you stop in, badly depleted the police force is. people should not be traveling this memorial day, they should be saving every penny because i feel it 20 it worse to forget better. he thinks his policies are good although nothing about it is

good. >> folks are frustrated right now and joey, you drive a truck as well and you don't live in the city. you are going to be assuming i am assuming celebrating memorial day in some fashion? >> at the end of the day you can stand there and say mr. putin's gas hikes and repugnance want to call me, they are not big spenders because they didn't pass a bill that better which would be bad for us and that is the problem, it's not to say people don't appreciate us do this check or opportunity to get a couple of extra dollars in the bank but when you effort to do that make the dollars work less, you're not helping them. you can take ownership of that and make policy changes. do the clinton swing, bring in republicans, at least show you care and you have more than a bad pr campaign to blame someone else for the problems we are having we don't care who is at

fault. look at history, look at the headlines. fox will say one thing, cnn was a another but mom and dad sitting at home, the families around the table are less concerned about who's to blame and more concerned about what are you going to do about it? you are the one to spend your convincing us to vote for you you are going to kill covid inch do all these things, what are you going to do about what's happening? blaming putin doesn't give anyone any relief, talk about memorial day weekend, i'm going to work and that's probably what a lot of people are doing because they couldn't take a day off. >> and lisa, those are voters and voters were asked recently one of their primary concerns and one of the questions in this poll we will put up, if they believe inflation is a serious issue. 68% very serious issue. 27%, somewhat serious.

we are in primary season heading toward midterms. history tells us the democrats will have this but this doesn't help. >> it doesn't help and joe biden is telling these people to not believe there lying eyes, not believe everything is skyrocketing when they pay any bill it's more expensive, gas is increasing and he's saying it's everyone else's fault, don't believe it but this is the same guy who turned his back on americans and left them in afghanistan and gave press conferences and turned his back to the american people so no surprise he would not take ownership of anything but look at gas, or baking dictators for fossil fuels because this guy shut down the keystone pipeline, he moved it and banned things like leasing on federal land so he chose this path, he chose the pain at the pump and no one is to blame but joe biden.

>> you know who's probably not worried about inflation? tom cruise because maverick is back and the sequel to top gun is now in theaters near you and you won't believe this sweetheart deal that could bring the actor hundreds of millions of dollars. that's next. ♪♪

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♪♪ welcome back to the big saturday show. it's been 36 years top gun took the world by storm and now it's back with a sequel and that's always better. top gun maverick. ♪♪ >> we are going into combat. ♪♪ >> no one can make the same mistake. >> americans, my best friend love the nostalgia and expected to have top gun maverick bring

in $150 million this memorial weekday weekend. joey, i'll start with you because i'm pretty sure you seen this movie probably several times like myself, even the ones with commercials, iceman or maverick. >> honestly i am in iceman fan, maverick is to loosey-goosey. he calms down in the movie but you can't be cowboy like, they get people hurt. he served in the military, iceman had from the beginning and he comes around to the end but on the topic of this movie, people love the nostalgia because we are in a place looking back saying things used to be a little better, used to be able to like celebrate americans superiority and military combat. he loved top gun or funder and they were the two best congress movies ever made. i hope it lives up to the hype but they put the japanese flag back on his jacket because a

company pulled out of funding anyway so i'm glad i can feel better about watching the movie, less political appeasement of the communist party integrated into the movie. >> well said. lisa, fingers crossed you seen the original? >> i have actually. something good to report. [laughter] >> awesome, awesome. [laughter] question is two-part. number one, how genius has tom cruise not been getting in politics? i think that has to do with what he has that old-school awesome contract, he still gets money on the back. your thoughts on that? and then 2028, would you vote for maverick or tom cruise for president and why? [laughter]

>> gees, good for him for making money, right? i think not getting involved in politics is hard for actors because it's not divisive and both sides might like him, some don't like him because he's got a crazy antics, he's been part of. it's good to see guys being masculine. nowadays we are taught it's toxic to be masculine, i think it's good to have a little strength, then needs some of this and it's nice to see people being normal again. look at 2020 during covid, the domestic box office was a 40 year hello, good to see people going back to theaters living their lives, enjoying their lives so thing is great and my cousin is one of the producers so good for him, he's crushing it, proud of him and cool to see this movie driving. >> luckily for my next question, i have a great investigative journalist on hand, first of all, you seen the original?

>> correct. >> i saw the original when i was 16 years old in the theater with my boyfriend. >> but she saw it. >> i saw it. [laughter] >> we saw the angry son tell him he would not believe in maverick like his father did, the legendary goose. as a journalist, who was responsible for the death? wasn't maverick or manufacturers of the injection compartment on the planes? go. >> tyrus, oh my gosh. i can't blame maverick, i just can't bring myself to do it but that would hurt. >> thank you. i feel better about this. [laughter] saturday flocks our next. ♪♪

welcome back to "the big saturday show". it is time for the big saturday flops. our picks for the bigots fails in the headlines this week. listen the mlb is silence. they really protested our election bill laster the governor signed into law, guess what, after pulling the game from atlanta and all of the did

my braves win the world series, we set records of the primary elections 215% early votes. there is no impeachment on people's rights to vote as a matter fact made it more fair and more accessible. so rob manfred and stacy abrams, you are the fail this week you flopped. well delivered, okay joey. [laughter] >> a robot may be gritty at the next time you visit a chili's. rita the robot is an automated worker the restaurant chain says will help make jobs easier for everyone else. the rowboats walk out with the server appeared they carried the food, they sing happy birthday they helped carry the dishes. i don't know if i was a server going with a robot i would feel like in my training my replacement here? you don't have to pick the robot either i don't know about this i don't like it, tyrus you are next up are a collectible free advice, glass of water spilled the water on the robot, done.

[laughter] speaking of being down it's the end of the world as we know it, a gene editing experiment at northwestern university terms fluffy answers into aggressive mutant rage monsters. kind of like me when my celtics blowout game six but it is all good. >> we don't need that. we don't have the video the fighting hamsters? this is terrible. i am upset and shocked at so much to bring david and i am sorry i'll have to let this one go. just so you know, hamsters are jerks anyway. they sleep during the day and they bite everybody, never heard of a bathroom. whatever. [laughter] >> that is the exact opposite of what i was looking for. [inaudible] mutated.

cracks so they multiply it really fast too but i got a boy and girl and i was younger and i didn't know in the may have like 100 hamsters. [laughter] >> disgusting stories awful. [laughter] >> i've got one for you guys. this is a big big saturday flops so while alicia was reported showed a special gift is not the one able likes is not the present she had asked for as well. i heard it's good luck, or read on the internet so it must be true. [laughter] happy birthday. >> yes a bird pooped on my head i was doing. [inaudible] >> happy birthday. >> happy birthday pray. >> thanks i present to give a shout out to our security team. they went above and beyond to get that out of my hair. i have showered since then, i am showered thank you guys so much.

[laughter] all very kind. okay, that does it for us. we will see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern for the big sunday show. the fox report with jon scott starts right now goodbye everyone. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ police in texas facing more questions over their response to tuesday's mass shooting in rob elementary school. it killed 19 children into teachers good evening i am jon scott and this is the fox report. ♪ ♪ ♪. jon: some disturbing details coming out now and that horrific school shooting in uvalde but we note now that nearly 20 officers waited and a hallway outside the classrooms for more than 45 minutes as the attack transpired