congress is holding emergency hearings to take away that our constitutionalemy right won't me you safer. we're going to speak to someone who watched her husbandlk murdered right in front of her . she can do nothing about it because gun laws preventedus frs doing something about it. if you want to protect yourself ,we'll be back tomorrow night 8:00 p.m. so n that's a sworn enemy of lying, smugness and groupthink and the best off with the ones you love. and welcome to hannity. we begin tonight with this fox alert. my full monologue, by the w wayj is coming up in just a moment. but first we have breaking news out of tulsa , oklahoma , where this afternoon a gunman opened fire on a hospital campus. with the very latest is our very own trace gallagher trace shot. this happened at the st. francis hospital campus in tulsa, a building that houses an orthopedic center and the offices of many, doctors. we're told a man walked into the building with a rifle and a handgun and opened fire . police say both weapons were used and that the death toll

now stands at five , including four victims and the shooter who apparently turned the gun on himself. none of the victims has msms beenid identified, but witnesses sayo two of them appear to be dressed as a doctor and a nurse. othersrs could be patients or visitors. ck the shooter is identified as a black male between the ages of thirty five and 40 . we arere told the entire shootig lasted less than four minutes and that tulsa police went into the building without hesitationt .. and the tulsa mayor saidd the city should be proudshou that clearly a reference to the delayed entry we saw lastt week s. ce valde texas police are still in the building doing room to room checks and say that at least one witness did locked himself in a closet during the shooting. so far, sean, we do not have a motive. we'll bring you more as a wes get it john . >> all right, trace, thank you . now we'll continue to update you throughout the hour tonight as more information becomes available. buton we begin with the trial

everyone tonight is talking about and it is now official the circus is finally over at least for now. , a northern virginia jury has awarded johnny depp 15 million dollars in his defamation suit against ex-wife amber heardn the same jury then awarded hurd two million dollars countersuit against johnny depp, in other words, detonated 13 million dollars, cleared his name of the quote me to accusations leveled by heard in a 2018 washington post op ed. but in a civil case that involved the wildest allegations of drug use and jealousy, physical, psychological abuse, verbal abuse and one well, rather unusual claim surrounding human in a bed neither celebrity i can tell you this emerged unscathed like a watch binge watch one of those netflix series. it's dark, it's all consuming. no real winners from the civil trial. for example, here's one small

look into this couple's tumultuous relationship very i did not want to i did notck want to. >> i don't know that you i hitting you. i don't know don what the motiof my actual and what. but you're fine., i didn't hurt you enough until i was hitting you. oh yeah. what am i supposed to do now?ha >>t it would appear from what we just saw that amber heard was the abuse of one inre the relationship. here's one more examplela of that alleged abuse. take a look. she threw the large bottle and it made contact and shattered everywhere. and i honestly didn't i didn't feel the pain firstst at all. i felt no pain whatsoever. what i felt was i felt heat.

i felt heat and i felt as if something were dripping downow my hand. youn and then i looked down and realized that the the tip of my finger had been severed and i was looking directly at my bones. >> and here is more testimony from dabb claiming that hehe had run from room to room in order to get away from amber heard, whichard, made her , let's say a little unhappy. take a listen. g i think that i ended up locking myself and about at least at least nine bedrooms bathrooms that day as she was banging on the doors and screaming obscenities, wanting to have

a physical altercation. in now keep in mind during the trial her also leveled some very graphic allegations against johnny depp. by the way, viewpp a warning. d >> what you're about to hear is pretty disturbing. take a look. and then a it became clear to me he was like looking for something he cleared things off the bed. i went into the bathroom and as i come out, he, he asked me where it is and how long i've been hiding it. i was y like, what are you talking about? and he said, you know what i'm talking about. >> you know what i'mleep talkine about. be honest with me. where are you hiding it? and he starts would feelti that patting me down orng saying he's putting me down, i can'tpe recall. but he ripped my dress the strap top partt of my dress.

he's grabbing my my my . he's touching my thighs and he rips my underwear off and then he proceeds to do akhavan you. he said he was looking for his drugs. his cocaine is coke. now ultimately a jury did not find most of her . it's outlandish claims to be credible even after these text messages from johnny depp to a friend was into this . i'd like to apologize to court and to the jury for some of the language that i'm going to h haveav to use today. but unfortunately you're going to see a lot of documents with language likehi this after you said let's drown her before we burn her . mr you said i will see

her burnt corpse afterwards to makewa sure she is dead. >> that's what you said. ay >> now needless to say, regardless of who you o believey or what you believe, one thing i is obvious this wass not a healthy relationship in any way, especially given the allegations of revenge. >> watch this . i received some news that was as absurd and grotesque and cruel and then i was shown a picture of what the problem was, what was a photograph of o mr. de ?

it was it was a photograph of the dead i arbat and on my sidei of the bed was human fecal matter. so i understood why it wasn't a good time to go down there. s there areo so many takeaways you can get from this trial. i guess you could start don't do these kind of drugs. it's not going to end well. and also again, as a public we're reminded never rush to judgment. we do believe the presumption of innocence due process is critically important always. and just because somebody does not an allegation does make it true . we saw this with justice cavanaugh. we saw with clarence saw thomas we saw the uva case. we saw it with duke lacrosse. dg

wee saw it with nicholas sandeman, cambridge police, ferguson, missouri, baltimore richard jewell and here we go again. so many people did rush to judgment and a statement fromde his spokesperson that celebrated the verdict thanking the juryy for givinge him his life back after the quote false and very seriouste criminal allegations a that were levied at himt via the media. meanwhile, amber heard now down thirteen million dollars was less upbeat. quote,e,to the disappointment that i feel today is beyond words.. i'm heartbroken that the mountain of evidence still was not high enoughh h to stand up o the disproportionate power influence d and sway of my ex-husband. she continued quote, i'm sad i lost this case, but i'm sadder still that i seem to have lost a right a that ily thought i had as an american to speak freely and openly. of course, no one has the right to defame someone in the washington post even if m the post is more than happy to publish.

we'll have more on the media mob angle in just a moment. butea first here with reaction o all of this saga. she is the host of crimet stories right on fox nationur .com or on . nancy grace is with us. nancy oy , first of all, i don't see any winners here to starty with . and secondly, i look at the utter evil brutality, darkness, use every adjective you can think. k and ino know that these situations arise. on my advice to anybody if you find yourself in one, get out g as soon as possible. don't pass go do not collect two hundred leave immediately. >> thoughts? well, as to the verdict that has just come out in the last hours, as i said at the get go it's like two wete cats in the barrel. o the only question was whichf one is going to crawl out on top of the other in this case deep crawled out on top. and il can tell you another thing, sean hannity, it woulday be a cold day and age awol

that i or would let my daughter stay in a relationship where-e somebody cavity search me for drugs and me with a wine bottle . that's not going to happen by buy out. but she didn't leave. got to wonder why right now she has issued a statement saying she didn't go into the nancy s nancy, let meec interrupt for a second. so the jury obviouslyly didn't buy that because ifhe they did,w they would have come m to a different verdict here. so my question is that's right. it l sounds likeik you did belie that is not true . what i just said was if someone had bothered to research to meme for drugs or me with a wine bottle , i'd be gone. i wouldn't stay around. butt she did, which in my mind negates the claim. i find that very fantas to believe and for her to nowow say

this was a david and goliath story where she has cast as david and debt as goliath that somehow she can fight alls of his power and sway. er that's not her undoing. her undoing was her own lies in front of the jury. you can't go into court and expect that everything about you is not going tois be exposed because it will be and it's a matter oft this i'm not saying seanty hannity, this is a popularity contest. nobody's going to be crowned miss congeniality. that's not going to happen. buty, when a jury can smell your lies, they don't like you and they're not going to believe anything you say. and i believe they could smell her alive.e. >> yeah,ey all right. nancy grace, always great to have you. thank you for joining us . according tou constitutional scholar jonathan turley quote, depp walks awayy with a far greater victory in the rejection of hers allegations. another loser in this case is g the aclu, which helpeden write

the defamatory column. this will now magnify criticism of the role of the aclu here l as more is law professoraw fox c news contributor jonathan turley. about t i found your comments about the aclu interesting but alsohe there are two things that really struck me. number one , itas was her admission that well, d i didn't punch you but i hit you the allegation of in one's bed and then you have this whole notion that she was o complaining on one of the tapes that he would walk into another room and then another room, another in another and room whih indicated to me that he was trying to de-escalate. is that a fair interpretation? well,fa not only is it a fair interpretation, it does appear to be the interpretationn of the jury. you know, these this is trial turned almost exclusively on credibility and the juryy clearly did not find her very credible. in fact, v they found her culpable judging from

this ruling, the key to remember rul that as a public figure and both of them were public figures there washe a higher standard, a higher burden to prove called actual malice. this jury found that not only was she saying something that was false, but she did it with malice and he really ran the table on these counts. everyfund that for one of these allegations. and soth they clearly did reject her allegations. many of t us noted that she did not come across very well on the stand. what did you think? why t do you think the other loser in the case is the aclu? and while the jury awardedes five million dollars in punitive damages, it was reduced by the judgeuc to three hundred and fifty thousand dollars because the commonwealth of virginia, mi their law limits punitive damages. what are your thoughts on those two things? f well, first of all, i've never been a fan of these caps

on punitive damages. jurors tend to give punitive damages in a very small number of cases.es less thans one percent. but they are there to register the jury's outrage to say this is far beyond the pale. this is not just defamation. it's worthy of something more . and i think that states like virginia really do a disservice by having these lower caps. i've been h critical of these caps for a long time now in terms of the aclu, many people have been critical ofor the aclu for years and how it's changed and used to be an organization was focusedch on free speech due process and this mission of protecting individual rights. it's ti become more and more political. it'sli drifted and in this case we found out that aclu staffers helped write this defamatory opinion piece and many of saying what what were you even doing in this realm? why were you even involved?

and the aclu selected her asn their spokesperson for abuse f and they just simply seemed to accept her allegations and reject the claims of depth that he was not an abuser. and of course, that waswo the response of hollywood and the media. t before. ar that no, it's not clear that this is going to be a redemptive momento for debbie. you know, once tagged in that way, it's hard to be untagged. but the aclu really does deserve a really a front row seat in terms of blame. you know, they played r a critical role. they helped draft a defamatoryem statement. they disregarded the countervailing arguments of death or the possibility might be innocentrvbi and they elevatd this person is the presumptive spokesperson for all abused spouses or jonathan turley,ea always great to have you. have thank you for being with us. we turn our focus now tous the washington post earlier today our was own clay travis

tweeted, quote, while amber heard was hit with a 15 million dollar verdict for defamation, remember the five million punitive damages reduced by the judge according to the commonwealth of virginia to three hundred fifty thousand dollars? we shouldn't overlook, he said the washington post published her defamatory lies after editing and posting a headlinein to the piece. a jury is now officially determined they publish fake r news. it n was reaction fox news c contributor joe concha along with our founder clay traviscl clay.ay i thought your angle is dead on accurate, but we all know if you're a public figure that again we go to times v. sullivan, you need too prove actual malice. is there a case here that you might see that they would haveag against the washington post meaning johnny deppst? yeah, it's fascinating, sean, and thanks for having me on .t s that's what justice clarence thomas has argued that we need to updatee times v. sullivan for the modern era. and so when u i put my lawyer ht

on here and go back to when i practiced law full time, what jumps out to me, sean, is yes, there probably is a claim against the washington post now this was an op ed piece, right? so she's claiming to tell the truth. to what extent was there an investigation done? remember, they definitely wrote the headline which wasse a major consequential aspect of this case. what it really represents, though, big picture here big is the washington post has sold the hashtag believe all women. they have sold me to sean.he you know what they did to brett kavanaugh and the awful lies that they spread as a part off news coverage during his confirmation hearings. what this represents and i think it's a massive significant win for the american legal system is we are back to square one .ar lady justice is blind for a reason when she's holding up the scales of justice. it's because whether you're a man or woman, whether you're black, white, asian, hispanic, , straight, a citizen of this country or not, we are all supposed to be equal before the eyes of justice.

and in fact our stories are to be given weight not basedit on our identityy but based on their truth. and what this jury said was even though the washington post tried to defame johnny deppri a and even all of hollywood and all of the media jumped on the amber heard bandwagon and believe this he still deserves his day in court and that jury said we're not hashtag believing all women. this is the end of hashtag. me too. this is about individuals being able to tell their own story. st johnny depp struck a blow. i really believe this for the justice system helping to tear down this awful idea aat if you're a woman you can't lie. we allllns know i believe i hums lie, but you've got to get to this point. i believe, when but i also believe that you're innocent untilhat proven guilty. the presumption of innocence and nobody at a time when this was at its height wanted to talk about that aspect of this joke constantly, broadly when we talk about them, when

we talk abouton tal the media. joe , i was in atlanta when the whole olympic bombingi happened. i was on the air there whenele richard jewell fit the profile of the lone bomber. turned out he was a hero there and it taught me a veryua valuable lesson that has served me well throughout my career. we were right about nicholas and me and we wereso right abour ferguson. we were right about cambridge. we were right about rig uva. we were right about duke lacrosse. we were right about baltimore. romaryland , the russia hoax for three years. we're now proven right. we were even right on the one hundred biden laptop storyry. ns these areig not insignificant moments in the case of the russia hoax. those lies went on for three long years and dragged the country through and noneeg of the allegations in that dirty dossier were true . >> none of the alpha bank allegations were true . those stories you just mentioned had a common s thread, a common mantra, sean, and thats is you're guilty until proven

innocent, not the other way around whether you want to bring richard jewell oras nicholas sandmen and i think isdman here probably s the most relevant person to think about if johnny depp's next move in court is to go after the washington post because you remember the post along with cnn, they were sued c for defamationnn by a high schol student to the tune of two hundred and seventy five million dollars each s and both of those publications were forced to settle so will the post be facing a similar suit here from johnny depp? i mean, stay tuned, sean. e either way, in the end i'm going to be hearing thoseth three words over and over again from the testimony from this case has gone on for weeks. sean a, i got to be honest, it's hard to get out of my head human fecal matter. i mean, that's a tough one tott erase from thater i never have.t i realized how normal my marriage was untilil now. so i guess we can all n appreciate who we have in our lives after seeing these two go at it. well, i will tell you in so many on so many different levels and i know you're being funny but it is so dark. it is so ugly.

there's no light. there is four things tond deteriorate and go this low. neither one of these to come out looking good money, no money wind, win here. i i think everybody loses across the board. the only thing i could say it is to other people if you y find a situationsuch as nancy grace rightly pointed out,oi get the out of it immediately. don't pass. go don'tdi collect two hundred. get out, leave sad, tragicit in so many ways. thank you both for being with us. all right. straight aheadtrai tonight , biden's economic disaster continues to spiral. get this jp morgan ceo jamie dimon now warning of a world economic hurricane. it's going to get that bad. wasg we'll tell you what he t saidt coming up next .to my mortgage and when i went to check my credit score, i found a thing and then i found a thing and then i found a couple of inquiries that i have not initiated credit

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growing mental brand in america . we turn to the washington dc swamp where joe biden ishi so deeply concerned, deeply troubled, his heart is troubled. it's not about inflation, notubg about stagflation, not aboutfl record high gas prices orhi the baby formula shortage orho t the supply chain crisis orhe the crisis he created at the southern border or the fact that yes, americans are still trapped in afghanistan. we have not forgotten itista isl ninety one days later and if you add it up,at it's three hundred and four days since he promised he would not ld americans in the islamic emirate of afghanistan . well, tonight the president's top concern is not any of those self-inflicted preventable disasters. instead, bidenre is most worried about getting the respect that he deserves and according nbc news, joe is totally mystified about his crateringg poll numbers. quote,po he's now lower than trump and he's really twisted

reout it. can't believe he actually can read poll numbers myself. but d that's a different issue. naturally, he has nono idea whyw his approvalhy ratings are so lw and now he's blaming those around himng t for his own whitj house because according to joe biden, he can do nooe wrong remember in twenty twenty joe promised to always take responsibility, not blame others. but take a look at the chart on inflation put together by the rnc last june. biden blame covid-19 and said that inflation was transitory, temporary. then in the fall he blamed big meat for inflation and in february blamed the supply chain crisis. then in march he blamed vladimir putin and when all else fails, blame donald trump and reality by thety administration. they caused the inflation.rati they pump trillionson because os into an already hot economy. they artificially reduce the production of domestic oil and gas as demand remained constant. but now as fear not joe biden, h

he finally feel your pain. e >> take a what the president has done with respect to communications has been it has been to consistently explain to the american people where we are and where we need to go and that continues to be the way that he approaches this issuehe and very much fromo the perspective of what it feels like to sit around a dining table or a kitchen table in in this country because that is that's justiv looked experience and that's the way that he approaches these economic policy questions. >> and that meanspoli absolutely nothing. we are not in capable hands here with reaction. former senior adviser to president trump steve miller, along with podcastt host monica crowley. good to see both. w monica,it we'll start with you. the biggest problem that joe biden has is is the day to day problem, the day to day reminders when anybody d goes to fill up their gas tank, they're reminded that we usedre to pay

two dollars and something a gallon for gasolinen fo and we are nowow headed towards six dollars a gallon on a national average almost at five dollars. already there's some places in california it'sfo over eight dollars a gallon. go into course you your local grocery store. i go once a week, i do my own shopping and i mostly paleo, i buy meat. the prices have pretty much doubled. also the price of everything we all buy in every store we go to cost more . so there's the daily reminders, and americans, they are two thirds of them now are living paycheck to paycheck. they can't afforday his economic or his energy policies. policie. what does that day to day mean for him? y you're exactly right, sean. exa and whenctly you add to iten that this president has only been in office for a year and a half. so the memory of the booming trump economy where every american was benefiting from strong economicca growthnt and record low unemployment across the board a, that memoryt

is so fresh that the comparison with what they are living through right now in the biden economy is particularly stark. you know, when president trump handed joe biden this economy in january i 20 21, he gave him the fastest economic recovery from any crisis on record john.a and we have seen what he hason done with it. so when he is baffled by his low poll numbers h and the democrats pull their own poll numbers, all they have to do isr look to their own policies which created this economic catastrophe w. it's not only the day to day skyrocketing inflation that every american iss suffering with sean, but it's also a labor i supply chain crisis. and now on top of it, you'veng got a weakening economy and the fed is now tightening intoo a weakening economy. this is one of the things that jamie dimon is j warningamu about. so we are heading into unchartered territory heresc and for the president and the democrats to to scratch w their heads and wonderon what is going on , how could

this possibly happen? it isib a directs a result of their catastrophic economic policies that are delivering pain to every american. steve, i look at this and we're reminded at the pump. we're reminded in every store we go to everything we buy that much more . you have two young children at home. we've been friends for a long time now. a baby formula shortage. we ran out of covid tests over christmas going into the third year of a pandemic. i stilll don't think joe really knows what monoclonal antibodies are because there's no operatore, in warp speed for that or operation warp speedor for b baby formula, whicham i'm sure would probably help your family out. >> it would help mine and every family in this country that has young children out. what's astonishing is the whitea house not even present a timeline of what biden knew and when he knew it about this formula crisis. it's the worst combination of

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the person who single handedly blocked an anti lynching from me federal law.. the choice couldn't be clearer . do we move forward together or do we let politicians like rand paul forever holdra us backnd and drive apart? now senator paul's campaign, they did release a statement in response noting that he not o only supported the legislation but work with democrats on the bill and signed on as a co-sponsorig. meanwhile, georgia senate candidate herschel walker responded to far left msnbc. a commentator there published a piece in april calling his campaign an insult to black people telling supporters in an email he never wanted race to be a focal point in the campaign. but the raciallyth charged attacks have gone too far. it was reaction foxox newsdo contributors to roy murdock and david webb. great to see you both. david b, i look at rand paulvi sponsored the billd,. he co-sponsored the bill. he voted for the bill. b

the ad is a lie, number one . s and whatet they said about herschelle is to me unforgivable. however, it used toot be every two years, every four years now it seems that you calliv republicans conservatives racist, sexist, any name youes want any day of the week and it's fair game. you know, sean, first the, the first thing that charles booker says in that ad is he talks about the first black man nominated by democrats in kentucky. well, congratulations, democrats. you caught up republicans c have been nominating blacks.s. they were the first in congress in reconstruction. where have you been?t' but let's see charles booker for who he iss. this is simply him playing a race. he's got a 16 point deficit according to real clear politics behind rand paul and he's got to do something to get his agenda forward.s g he's playing this game. am's it's pathetic.'t

they don't care about the factst you just stated about the bill. all they care t about is the rae game and these are the very same democratt, same liberal policies, same prison culture that they pushede out there as being cool when i'm driving around or walking around an american city and i see blackk men and i'll speak to that and, women in their own version of it or whatever . but black men are walking around with their pants below t their , their underwear on displayher . they don't represent all black people in america. peopleri like myself that ica didn't think i can speak for. deroy, i've known for some time worked very hard to get ahead in life. the black community is diverse ,butbu the democrats don't want that diversity. they want loks that voting. so they play this game and they attack. ck they attack because many blacksi in america are no longer and the democrat hype the failed leftist policies, failed economic policies and the destruction of blackscoo in america.

you know, let>> me ask you, roy, let me give you the exact quotee about herschel walker because i think it's critical here and he literally said, well, hershel is an animatedca caricature of a blackri person drawn by white conservatives. he wrote this piece for the nation and he said i make h a hard distinction betweennc black conservatives and these tokens referringrv to hershel and tim scott who are out here right now shucking and jivingin for their white handlers. he said now the roi we've been friends a long time, david. we've been friendsds a long time . i've been friends with hershel a long time, probably one of the nicest, most sincere, honorable people i've ever met in my life. youu know, how do they get awayi with this time and time again? you know, this is nbc news troy ,how do they allow this ?is how where is the line for them ? well, this is what democrats do naturally to play the race

card. they play it early and often and they play constantly and in this case of herschel walker in georgia and we missed all of ought to be celebrating the fact that georgia republican primary voters elected a black man to represent them in the race for the u.s. senate. this is the samee j republican party that we heard just last year was racist, waspp engaged in voter suppression, want to keep blacks away from the polls becausereblac remember the all star game was moved f from atlanta to denver.ro to that same allegedly racist party just picked a black man to represent them p in thee us senate. isn't something we ought to applaud. instead, mistal attacks him as a token and he says the same same thing about tim scott who was elected to the u.s.at senate in nineteen sixty four you may say 2020 sixteen . that was five years before before warnock was put in by the democrats who was the first time the democrats put in a black senator out of the south since reconstruction. the gop beat them by five years. of course we don't get any credit for that and the republicans claim- to be the party that democrats are

the party represents blacks and yet they're the onesares who couldn't get could manage to get a black senate in until c last year. eah, and b >> and byy the way, to get out of t the gave the numbers and te fact that john, if i may, there are more blacks running for office right now as republicans for congress, for other seats across the country than ever before. democrats fear this ..mo the blacks turned around in this country are many blacks have said enough is enough. un we want our economy or our community, our education. t we want to grow up to be like a deroy murdock. we want to seee success. i would say the same to all of you. this has got to comebl to an end this double standard has to end here. this is the single most divisive thing and it is way many otherhat so things can't be said. this has got to stop anyway. thank you both. all right. the debate over trans

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i i would have no shot and i would have been livid. it was reaction.wo a formerul olympian herself foxe news contributorr caitlyn jenner along with fox news contributor tammy bruce. good to see you both. yount know, i saw your comments, caitlin. you said you were right. shee followed the rules as they're written. problem is the rules are not fair, which you havech acknowledged on this program that's a problem. >> it certainly is. you know, this is not the thomas fault. it's really the world that's out there right now gave leo thomas the ability to honestlyy take away medals m from other athletes. she played by the rules.ut but my beef has been with the ncaa. they've got to harden these rules because the ncaa should to protect women's i sports , you know, transitioningg. i really feel like it comes a with responsibilitynd and integrity. and i think in the good morning t america show that she did

a lack ofere was that . it was all about her and her happiness where, you know, when she was a male swimmer just a few years ago, she wasn't happy at all. noww she's all of a sudden happy. well, i mean to happiness i am glad she is happy. but she did it at the expense of the other female athletes. individual happiness heredi in leah's casevi cannot take priority over the undeniable biological fact that she's transhaans. and has a massive physical advantage over the other athletes. i mean, you see her on the blocks and i can see the girl standing next door. if you look up to her , she's very tall and the girl isl thinking i can't be bad. you know, i'm going for second g place and it shouldn't be that way. and the ncaa has to protect women's sports and now they want to take it to the olympics. av

>> tammy, what's your thoughts on it? the ruleses do have to change. caitlyn is absolutely right. the rules are not written with this kind of situation in mind. and i would disagree just slightly with caitlyn. she's right. it's about the woke society. but whenever the rules that we all live under seem to be really absurdly ridiculous. t it does come down to character. ite comes down to the nature of who we are about whether or nota we are going to take advantage of rules that were writtent and set for something entirely different without certain b expectations. it comes downen to what we've been seeingqu with leah thomas and i've been saying this for quite n some tie this has nothing to dobo with transgenderism at this point. and it'sut character about selfishness. it's about self-indulgence. it's about narcissism and caitlyn wasn't kidding when she was talking about happiness. leah noted n that when she competed against men that she a was miserablend and she's gonee

when she competes against women, she's happier. well,wh she's winning more . she did not win like this against men. and when you talk about the olympic john, there would be no real chance to even compete at all, let alone be signed onto the olympic swimming team. so this is a remarkable examination about self-indulgence and malignant narcissism even when it comes to what you're willing to do to others in order to get what you want when it is inherently and completely unfair. so that's's what this is the transgender people that are out there. caitlyn very good example of someone who has transitioned who has character. this is about individual attitudes. this is about who we areut as people w, not about the transgender issue at all. you know, caitlyn, we talked about this . you drive the ball to what , two hundred and eighty five three hundred yards. i'm never playing golf with you, by the way, s

200 yards. i don't need to be humiliated and catty feels catty though. but all right. c i bringas maybe all the rich trash. all right. butot a lot of it. but the point is you wouldn't play a senior event because you feel you have that advantage. >> we have about thirty secondse . >> yeah, no, i definitely do and i'veve been through this whole process. in fact, i amon't completely transitioned. i don't know what the cases in this case but i've been on hormones for a very long time and can hitit the ball a long way. that's not a problem. he here's a good example. what if the nba adopted the rules of the ncaa? michael jordan it his prime all of a sudden decides i'm trans one year on whoremongers replacement therapy and he can play in the wnba . how do r you think that would work out? i got a role i but i think i think if i do play i'll bring hundreds because it's going to cost me a fortune. thank you both more "hannity"

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