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about -- prime time speech, commentators going at it and less than two weeks after the texas massacre, a gunman with a grudge against his surgeon killed 4 people in a tulsa medical building before taking his own life. former cmn anchor says she was this florida the day after the parkland, florida, when produce's's broke -- producers brushed off her pleas for air time, and the following day told her to return to new york. as for texas, baldwin predicts the audience starts to drop off. no ratings, less coverage. it's as simple as that. i think it's a little more complicated. it's not just about revenue. people have followed the texas tragedy intensely are, but there comes a point where compassion fatigue sets in. maybe people move on and the media move on because the past has convinced them that that nothing will change. i'm howard kurtz and this is "mediabuzz." ♪ ♪

howard: ahead, piers morgan on softening his approach to talking about the guns and coverage of of the biden presidency. and why johnny depp's legal victory over amber heard has become such a media obsession. if joe biden had one core message in his speech, it was enough. it was, do anything. -- do something. and the public's sharply disagreed on what that something should be or whether it has a snowball's chance of passing. >> after columbine, after sandy hook, after charleston, after orlando, after las vegas, after parkland nothing has been done. this time that can't be true. this time we must actually do something. this isn't about taking away anyone's rights. it's the about protecting children. it's about protecting families. >> the president says he's had enough, you've had enough, i've had enough, we've all had

enough. >> joe biden decided to leverage the murder of 19 children in texas for political advantage. he just spoke at some length from the white house about the need to disarm the population. >> when he said the majority of republicans oppose this, that could be interpreted -- >> it's unconscionable. >> i i think the president there channeled a lot of the horror and gut-wrenching pain that many americans have felt across the political spectrum in these last few weeks. no one likes to see what's happening. i think he kid not help the chances of something actually hang in the senate. happening in the senate. howard: joins us now, kevin corke, white house correspondent for fox news, and mollie hemingway with, editor-in-chief of "the federalist" and a fox news contributor. mollie, you said it was an impeachment -- impeachable offense. you think it's unconstitutional, but how can giving a speech be grounds for impeachment?

>> going against gun rights which are embedded in our constitution, they're embedded in our founding prior to the constitution. our second amendment is an important part of what it means to be an american. we've recently had impeachments over everything from phone calls and, you know, it's the been degraded, but really going against constitutional protections should be held as something that is much more serious. but the -- howard: biden hasn't done that yet. he may do that. right now it's just a speech. >> people should be on guard when people try to attack the constitutional protections whether first amendment or second amendment protections. that is a very serious thing. howard: kevin, let's go through the list of what the president said. he called for banning assault weapons which he was instrumental in that in the '90s, then it was repealed. if not, raise the purchase age from 18 to 21, limit high capacity the magazines, allowing gun manufacturers to be sued after shootings. he's not going to get 10

republican senators to support any of those things. the press has made that clear, biden knows that, so why include sweeping changes that don't have a prayer? >> three points here. first of all, what he's trying to do is make sure he gets people on record. true his congressional leadership on the democratic side, put something out there, get them on the record before the fall midterms in the hopes that that will spur debates, in the hopes that will make a better ad for somebody who's running in a purple district, for example -- howard: so doing it as a political statement. >> i think so. number two is you have to take off your hat as a senator. i get it, he's done this for a half century, but he had a chance, howie, frankly to be uniter in chief. and in effect, he turned that speech into a political stump speech in a sense because he talked about what republicans doesn't do, what republicans have done. i'm sorry, it's your time to say to the american people i have an old saying, the windshield is bigger than the rearview mirror

because that's where your focus should be. he should be looking ahead, not looking back at the past. simply saying i have a plan, i have people who will back me and i believe, number three, the country really was in a moment where had he simply said we're going to focus on raising the age and we're going to focus on red flag laws, that's it, we can get this done, we'll get something done, i think that's the strategy. maybe they'll get to that, but it didn't seem that way that night. howard: yeah. no, there's very little question, mollie, that most of the mainstream media are pushing for more stringent gun control measures. is that evident in the reaction to biden's speech? >> i loved your opening when you were talking about media coverage of these horrific events. i think the american people are desperate for something to happen with what's going on in this country. the problem with the media coverage and so much of the response is that it focuses not just only on politics, but only on a very narrow area of politics which is their fervent

desire to restrict gun rights which, again, are natural rights that we hold as people and that are very important. people would like to talk about the all the things that contribute to our moral rot in our society. they do know that these school shooters frequently are dealing with homes where there aren't fathers around, where they have suicidal ideation at the time or just before they go on these mass shooting rampages. these the are really important things that many people in this country sense, they would like to the talk about, they would like to see leadership and, yes, they would like to see leadership from the president or other political leaders, but they would also like to see something different from what's happening in our corporate media where they say things, usually speak with ignorance about guns and gun rights, and that's not sufficient. howard: just to clarify, we do have some gun regulation now, for example, 18 to 21-year-olds can buy handguns. it's a question of where you draw those lines. and it is notable, as many pundits have pointed out, that 6

of the 9 last mass shootings were carried out by young men age 18 to 21. i'm not advocating it, but i think it's getting a careful look. >> almost everyone who commits these mass shootings are male, most committed with handguns. we do know most school shootings involve people who are suicidal. there are things that we know in addition to this narrow thing that people want to focus on. and i think people would be more receptive to talking about restrictions on gun rights even though i don't with support that the, if we were talking about it more holistically. howard: mental health clearly a big part of this, kevin. what some journalists are saying is this: if there's no agreement to get to 60 votes in the senate, and the new york times says these are all but certain to die in the senate, and if joe biden isn't directly negotiating with the hill, hen why give the speech? >> well, you want to give the speech because you too want to be on record as saying this is what i believe. and even if it's a hill i die on

politically, i want to go out there and say i will fight for this regardless of the consequence. so i think that was a smart play from his perspective. the other thing to keep in mind, howie, is even though they know this will never -- at least in its current construction -- pass through the senate and get your 60 votes, you want to get, again, some of them on the record politically, make sure -- let's say it doesn't get to the floor. at least you can go back to the folks who back you and support you and say i did all i could do, i tried my best, and we're going to make them pay come november. that's the time you want it to turn into politics, i didn't think the night of the speech was the time to do that. howard: but when critics of the president particularly on the right say this is being done for political reasons, and i think, you know, it's a common thing for both sides to say you're politicizing -- >> of course. howard: but if it is to get people on the record, that does sort of support the notion that this is more about making a political statement than what if

you just focused on two or three things that polls show overwhelmingly are supported, background checks -- >> and red flag laws, sure. howard: doesn't the white house open itself up to that criticism? >> they do. but i think if you really unpack what they'd like to do which is something, anything, you heard him say enough, enough. okay. enough means really getting down into simple, easy to pass legislation. don't make them large are, don't make them sweeping. it's going to be a school fortification bill, something like that we can all agree on. do that and see where it goes. howard: mollie, there are obviously very strong sides on this issue. do you think the climate, fueled in part by the very intensive media with coverage of buffalo, texas, tulsa and others, is in a moment given the intense media scrutiny when something that

couldn't have passed two months ago might actually be able to pass? so congress could at least the say, hey, we did something? >> i don't know what will happen, but i think it's important to remember gun rights are a guard against tyranny. they are uniquely american, a guard against government oppression. we frequently don't talk about the basis of our gun rights. we talk about gun violence, we don't talk about all of these important issues about who we are as a people. now, you do see that a lot of people, republicans in power in the senate or in the house, they tend to adopt media framing on this topic so they have actually signaled that they are open to restricting gun rights. seems unwise at a time not because it's unprincipled, it's the also at a time joe biden is suffering catastrophic a approval ratings. republicans could use this at a time to talk about the importance of gun rights and also the importance of dealing with some of these problems that are contributing to violence in

our society. howard: right. the democrat response to that is why does anyone need to have a gun that can fire off 300 rounds of ammunition, high capacity magazines and ar-style rifles, but i understand -- >> no, but -- howard: a lot of people think it's a slippery slope. >> and also it's a guard against tyranny. when you look at our entire founding and how we declared independencing from another country, the gun rights are deeply embedded in this understand that we do not want our government telling us where we can worship, how we should worship, whether we can say certain things, and it's something that need z to be part of that media conversation. howard: kevin, what did you think of brooke baldwin's point in that piece, sometimes it's only a couple of days before the audience moves on. >> she's right. she understands the way that the press works in general which is to say what's hot for 72 the, 96 hours is pretty much the extent of our attention span.

howard: which is awful a, if you think about it. >> terrible because it's the such an important issue. now, there's a way to change that though, howie, and i think the way to do it is to simply say i'm go to as a leader, even nancy pelosi speaker of the house, get out there, make yourself available and say i will town hall this thing, we will unpack this thing the, we will carry this through the summer because that more than, say, looking back at 1/6, is going to impact the lives of people moving forward. howard: right. the prime time hearings begin this week. ahead, piers morgan on how he's changing his tone on the gun debate but before we -- and when we come back, is president biden's media blitz on inflation having any impact? people with plaque psoriasis,

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howard: joe biden has launched a media blitz to tout the his concern about inflation serving top officials on to the cable circuit and staging a photo op with jerome powell and treasury secretary janet yellen. >> my plan is to address inflation. it starts with a simple proposition, respect the fed. respect the fed's independence. >> mad cam secretary, was it a mistake to downplay this inflation risk? >> well, look, i think i was wrong then about the path that inflation would take. >> after first dismissing inflation as transitory then blaming it on putin, bide biden came out to make you think he really cares. >> guns are one of the serious crises. inflation may be the tough thest because it's really beyond the control of the president. howard: mollie, is the largely negative coverage of inflation going to be influenced by

putting cabinet members on cable news? >> not at all. people are experiencing it every time they fill up their car, every time they go to the grocery sore -- store. but this biden administration really has to take the ownership of this because it was their policies that a led to this. inflation was low when he took office. republicans and trump wered bad with spending, but democrats responded with these huge trillions of dollars' packages to spend more money -- howard: beyond the control of -- [inaudible] >> right. and people understand aha the pumping in the money has led to some pretty big problems. howard: the president also wrote an op-ed on for "the wall street journal." is the white house left with the argument that the treasury secretary, janet yellen, says she was wrong about inflation being transitory, but the president was not wrong? is the press going to buy that? >> no, that was the more or less a hostage video by janet yellen. it was awful to see her saying i blew it.

howard: are you suggesting she was forced to go out -- >> i'm suggesting absolutely, yeah. blink if you're doing what they are telling you to do. i respect her, obviously, a difficult job. but you know what, howie? when it comes to the economy and in particular americans' view of inflation, the president is so low on this particular topic, the devil himself is looking down saying are you okay down there. [laughter] it's the ridiculous. and i think most people feel like focus on what you can do, lower the price of gas. i just filled up my tank the, $78. it used to cost me $50. and that's where people are so disgusted by what's happening. they are demanding answers, and no matter what you do if you don't make it happen with strong energy policies, trust me, come november 1st it's going to be a very long night. howard: and if you're a truck driver, it hurts even more. >> absolutely. howard: all right. let me turn to the baby formula crisis because it has become a

worse crisis even though the media coverage kind of dropped off. there's now a 70% shortage of all of this formula that so many millions of parents rely on. white house press secretary the had refused to say when the president learned of this shortage which goes back to really the shutdown in february of that abbott plant. abbott's the biggest domestic manufacturer. let's take a look at questions to the president. >> -- just tell you that they understood it would have a very big impact? >> they did but i didn't. i became aware of this problem sometime in, after april, in early april, about how intense it was. howard: and so journalists are asking, how could the president not have known until april? >> it's a good question, and i saw that the secretary of commerce can't have much of an a idea about this before april. the levels of incompetence that we're dealing with are staggering. and i think it's important to think of a couple things. one, no one's been held

accountable. yeah, maybe joe biden wasn't told by his aides, who's being held accountable for that? who was ever held accountable for the afghanistan collapse, our energy problems, our border problems? it's complete incompetence, and it's from a media too that told us, promised us this was going to be a highly competent the, moderate, unifying administration. it's a disaster for everybody in this country, and they should be held accountable as well. howard: by the way, the media blew in the as well because after initial rounds of stories, no follow up even though everybody in the business knew this was going to put great pressure, and there's a lot of things about impor asian the rules. there was also a problem at the fda. there was a whistleblower's report that didn't reach the top of the agency for four months, nobody saw it. 9 isn't it fair for the president to say this makes it look like president biden is not on top of it? >> it is fair to say that. and, remember,ing this had more than one layer. it wasn't just press reports.

congressman elise stefanik, i believe, actually wrote a letter and said, hey, there's something going on here. that was back in february. if you told me they were going to shut down the plant from january or february until march, that's a long time. but then april and may, it's still closed down? howard: just finally reopened. >> unbelievable. there were a number of missteps, but the fact that they had warning both in the press and by congressional lawmakers, this is inexcusable. howard: i think this is a completely avoidable crisis. a lot of blame to go around. i think the president bears some and the media bears some because they were out of touch that this was building week of after week after week, and suddenly we all hear about fact that mothers can't get formula. mollie hemingway, kevin corke, thanks for joining us on set. nice to have people on citizen seat belt. after the break, carley shimkus on the johnny depp/amber heard spectacle and why heard says her loss is a setback for

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howard: the tawdry television melodrama that was the johnny depp/amber heard defamation trial generated off the charts public passion, mostly dethe announcing the actress -- denouncing the actress who must pay her ex damage dos of more than $10 million. >> then two years ago i became a public figure representing domestic abuse, and i felt the full force of our culture's wrath for women who speak out, end quote. do you find that mr. depp has proven all the elements of defamation? answer, yes. howard: depp's side must pay her $2 million for comments made by his lawyer. this was a job for carley shimkus in new york. carley shimkus, welcome.

>> thank you for having me. howard: what explains the fact that amber heard got utterly vis rated in the pr war according to virtually every media account and some women i've talked to before getting clobbered by the verdict? why all the anti-amber hate? >> yeah. well, first of all, this trial was really icky, and it got a lot of attention for a number of reasons. one, because the details were so shocking, the fact that there were cameras in the courtroom, johnny depp is one of the biggest celebrities in the world at a time, still has incredible star power. but i also think that there was a deeper reason as to why so many people were fascinated about this trial, and that has to do with the metoo movement. and some people have said that this trial, because she was found guilty, marks the end of the metoo movement. i don't think it does, but i think people codo -- do have a more nuanced. when it comes to why she was

clobbered, the jury just didn't believe her -- howard: yeah -- >> and came off as inauthentic. howard: since you brought up the metoo movement, amber heard's lawyer said on today show that the social media vitriol had to have the influenced the jury. they weren't supposed to look at it. the guardian columnist called it an orgy. heard herself says it sets back the clock to a time when a woman who spoke up publicly could be shamed, humiliated and set back the idea that violence against women should be taken seriously. i think she was taken seriously, so is she right, does it, or is this the case of two wealthy hollywood celebrities that doesn't really apply to the average person? >> yeah. i think that wrong. i think that the jury, although, you know, of course her lawyer is going to say that social media and all these outside factors played into this trial. the jury, by the way, is told not to go on social media -- howard: yeah.

>> -- and have any other odds i influences. but -- outside influences. this could also set back women because we were in a phase when she wrote this article where we were believing all women without vetting claims. johnny if depp, no angel in this trial -- howard: well, on that point, you used the word icky, understatement of the year -- [laughter] >> yeah. howard: if amber heard hadn't written that the op-ed four years ago saying she was the victim of domestic abuse, can't name depp, both of them wouldn't have been dragged through this unbelievably ugly spectacle that the i think made both of them look awful. >> yeah. and it turns out that the aclu was actually behind this article. she can't even read it. there have been a lot of lawyers, howie, who have said that johnny depp could essentially sue "the washington post" because they have the responsibility to vet claims. you can't just publish anything. as a matter of fact, the washington post, an editor wrote

the headline, i spoke up against sexual violence and faced our culture's wrath, that has to change, which is one of the statements the jury found defarm story the. at the end of the day, johnny depp wanted to clear his name, he thinks he did -- howard: the paper has now also posted an editor's note on that 2018 column. putting aside the charges and counter-charges of who beat who up and so forth, you look at the texts from johnny the depp, i'm cleaning this up. let's drown her before we burn her and have sex with her corpse. they were horrifying. so did he really win in this case? >> you know what? honestly, howie, i think he gets his career back at the end of this. i think that because, you know, when you heard that the verdict was being realize, it was yes after yes after yes what amber heard kid wrong, i think that there will be some -- did wrong, i think there the will be some movies that will take a chance and they will hire him --

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pearce mayor began uncensored, seen here on fox nation, and also on television from london. eight years ago you lost your cnn show because of declining ratings, and you blamed your advocacy of gun control for that telling "the new york times" there is no doubt there are many in the audience who are tired of me banging on about it. if only i didn't care so passionately about guns, perhaps i wouldn't have chased away a grand american audience. any regrets? >> none, actually, other than i would have probably tried to do the debate in a slightly less heated manner because i think one of the problems of the gun control debate in america is that all sides of the debate get very overheated, and nothing ever gets done. everyone beds down into their entrend the. ed positions and, you know, when i left cnn, it was just a year or so after sanity hook where, obviously, i'd locked -- sandy hook where i'd locked horns with the nra and to-gun people on

air. and i would try and have is a more constructive debate and say, look, it's not for me as a brit to tell americans what to do with their laws. all i can tell you is that, for example, in britain when we had a mass shooting at a school very similar to sandy hook and similar to what we saw recently in america again, we did do a lot of changes to our gun law are, and they seem to have been very effective. we've had no shooting at a school since. so i think there are constructive debates to be had here but not helped by overhysteria on either side or, frankly, by a british guy telling americans how to lead their lives. ohio ohio -- howard: yeah, we in the colonies are very sensitive about that. and i think your words would land differently today after the mass shootings, the horrifying shootings in buffalo and in thanksgiving. in your farewell -- in texas. in your farewell show, you said the nra was bullying politicians into silence.

today the financially-strappedded nra doesn't have quite the same influence, so why do you think even after another massacre in an elementary school that congress seemingly has difficulty agreeing even on modest changes many gun laws? >> i think, honestly, the change has to come from responsible american gun owners which many of your viewers will be people who would categorize themselves as that. nobody can be happy in america about what is going on. and there are simple things which i think could be done which surely wouldn't really be problematic. if people could just loosen their entrenched sort of stranglehold on their positions. there's no doubt, howie, it's not just about guns, it's about mental health issues. who you allow to get guns and at what age and what kind of checks you put them through. it's madness that 90% of americans support universal background checks and it still hasn't got through congress. how can that be the case? howard: there is that disconnect with public opinion. let me move to the coverage of

president biden. the media have been pounding away at him, the fact that his party likely faces a wipeout9 in november, blaming him for inflation, all sorts of issues. what happened to the notion that after donald trump the media were going on the very sympathetic and very favorable in their treatment of a democratic president? >> yeah. look, i think the reality has bitten, hasn't it? because i think everybody has seen that joe biden, everybody on the left has thought he was going to be a unifying president, calm everything down and, of course, the complete opposite's happened. and i hope the media has learned from its ridiculously partisan coverage of trump where i felt actually it helped trump in many ways that they were so nakedly partisan, i think that they may have learned their lesson that, actually, you've got to be fair-minded about it. you've got to report as reporters and not bring partisan bias when you're covering presidents.

they should all be held to ferocious account, and right now president biden is coming up very short both on the domestic and foreign stage. howard: covering the verdict against amber heard, do you have any quick thoughts on her not just losing the the suit, but why she's been so vilified by the media? >> well, i think we're in a new age, aren't we? whether it's covering war in ukraine or covering things like the depp/heard case where every spit and cough is thrown out on social media and dissect by the court of public opinion in realtime. you know, there are lots of issues about this case which i just found unsettling. one is that the saturation of television coverage. i don't think that should be admissible in a a domestic violence case. i think it turns it into what i think monica lewinsky described as court porn this week, and i think she had a point. secondly, the way that the people involved in the case were kind of ripped to pieces, particularly amber heard on

social media, i don't think that's edifying either. but it shouldn't really be that we turn guest you can violence cases into a form of entertainment for the maas masses. and i think that carries huge alarm bells going forward. howard: that's a great point. finally, you've been covering queen elizabeth's 70th jubilee. this is a huge event in the u.k. she seems like a lovely woman, has always carried herself with such great dignity, but you've been critical of the royal family, especially meghan markle. perhaps you can explain to us commoners why this has struck such a chord in the u.k. >> he's -- she's not only the oldest-ever monarch a, but she's now the longest reigning monarch of any kind on planet earth, so she's a very special woman. and i think that she shows the world with all the things which i would argue, for example, some of the younger, lesser royals like meghan and harry, could really learn some hard lessons from which is the power of

dignity, of humility, of making sure the public understand you're grateful for the privileged position that you hold, not fleecing your royal titles for personal gain. and i think also a showing the world that she can be a comforter in chief, the queen, in difficult times. howard: congratulations to the queen and, piers morgan, thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks, howie with. all the best. howard: after the break, russia says the u.s. is escalating the war by sending ukraine weapons. that's rich are. stay with us. ♪ ♪ ["only wanna be with you" by hootie & the blowfish] discover is accepted at 99% of places in the u.s. ["only wanna be with you" by hootie & the blowfish]

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the country. howard: does it concern you that these latest bombings in kyiv -- because, obviously, russia has failed to the take over the whole country, but there's a brutal fight in that the eastern region. >> it's most difficult thing. after american diplomats return to kyiv, hundreds of thousands of people decided that it's safe to be in capital. they returned from all of their, they returned from abroad concern the. howard: sure. >> do and right now we see they're still in danger. howard: president zelenskyy says the russian military controls one-fifth of ukraine. that surprised me and made me wonder whether the media are being overly optimistic in the coverage of the russian offensive because of the failure for plan a which was to take the over the whole country. has that been widely reported in ukraine? >> of course. and, you know, speaking about the territory, pieces like -- howard: i understand. it's a lot of land. >> it's a huge territory. howard: yeah. >> personally, i am concerned because i'm from odesa city, and

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howard: the justice department subpoena to indict9 peter navarro through drew wall to wall cover coverage.

he was arrested friday and charged with contempt for refusing to cooperate with the house january 6th committee and spoke to reporters at the courthouse. >> instead of coming to my door where i live -- which, by the way, is right next to the fbi -- instead of calling me and saying, hey, we need you down at court, we've got a warrant for you, i would have gladly call, what'd they do? is they intercepted me getting on the plane, and then they put me in handcuffs. of. howard: joining us now if, mike emmanuel. mike, this is a potentially important story, but it's a process story because it's about the battle with the democratic-controlled house january 6th committee. does it deserve the huge coverage that it's getting elsewhere? >> well, let's face it, when president trump left office, that killed our competition's ratings. so he's always been good for business for them. part of this may be trying to recapture some of that magic, trying to electrify their

audience to get them to watch. bottom line, i think depending where you sit politically is how you see the story. if you like president trump, then you probably think that the fbi was heavy-handed with peter navarro. if you don't like president trump, then you probably think, oh, go after peter navarro and send a message to the whole trump universe that if you don't cooperate, we're going to go after you and potentially embarrass you in the court of public opinion. howard: doj says it's not going to prosecute mark meadows, navarro says he's covered by executive privilege. let's turn to the acquittal of michael sussman. he was a lawyer for the clinton campaign, 2016, and he was charged with lying to the fbi. this was always going to be a tough case for a prosecutor, john durham, because it's a keyes can jury. many are saying -- it's a d.c. jury. many are saying it was a lousy verdict. >> absolutely. and i think a lot of conservative cans were frustrate thed because they felt for years john durham was going to have the something to show for his

investigation. millions of dollars spent, lots of digging and probing, and here is a case where they thought they were going to get a conviction, and then a d.c. jury said absolutely not. there's a lot of frustration on the right, and a lot of folks on the left are saying, ah, relief. howard: right. this is the only case durham has brought to trial even hoe there was a lot of -- though there was a lot of high publicity about a lot of people thought he's going to get to the bottom of this whole russia hoax. there was evidence that michael sussman did misrepresent himself to the fbi, claiming he was coming in as a private citizen but he was actually -- he actually billed the clinton campaign. but the most significant revelation, i think, is that hillary clinton had personally approved leaking to the media these allegations that turned out to be bogus allegations linking donald trump to a russian bank, hoping that would lead to stories saying the fbi is investigating trump and russia. >> it certainly felt like an aha

moment. people were like, oh, that's interesting, that's very important information that's coming out in this probe. but then we see a d.c. jury which said, you know, we're not going to convict the guy, and then i think a lot of conservatives went back in the corner and said this is never going to go anywhere. and it makes you wonder if there are going to be further cases from the durham probe, where they're going to go anywhere or whether a d.c. jury, politics is the life blood of this town, whether they're actually going to get any convictions. howard: sometimes even when a defendant is city acquitted, evidence can be introduced. so there were attempts to leak this, you know, trump-russian bank connection which i thought that turned out to be completely bogus. "the new york times," to its credit, got one of these leaks and investigating donald trump, fbi sees no clear link to the russia, which is exactly what the hillary clinton campaign did not want. >> good for them. that's something where folks on the right would say "the new

york times" doesn't do that very often, but there's a great case -- the. howard: it's always easy to write so and so's being investigated but sometimes that's not the right thing to do. mike emmanuel, good to see you, as always. >> thanks, howely. howard: and we are now going to have a fox news alert. queen elizabeth ii and the royal family expected to make an appearance on the buckingham palace balcony overlooking the platinum jubilee pageant any moment now. this is the 70th anniversary of her being as ruling the monarch. 1952. harry truman was president here. she obviously participatedded in the first day, then for a couple of days the palace said she was experiencing discomfort, but now that the ceremony is wrapping u, "mediabuzz" is wrapping up, we're going to go to london. greg palkot is going to join us with more on what's expected to be the queen's appearance.

greg. >> reporter: hey, howie, yeah. behind me, behind big ben a little bit of history could be shortly taking place. we've been watching a two-and-a-half hour pageant in front of the palace going down the mile, as they call it here, a tribute, a parade, a celebration of the life and times of queen elizabeth ii marking, yes, as you noted, her platinum jubilee, 70 years on the throne. seven long decades. as you mentioned, yes, from harry truman all the way to joe biden. right now we are keenly watching the palace and the famous balcony of buckingham palace, waiting to see, all indications, the queen coming out along with the royal family. we got a good sign of this because the roy to y'all standard went up -- royal standard the went up on top of the palace about 20 minutes ago. that only goes up when the queen is, quote-unquote, in the house.

she had been staying at windsor palace. she was out on thursday for that fantastic flyover and parade of the military. and then on friday and saturday she stepped back. she said she experienced a little bit of discomfort, but there were no real concerns. she's just take thing it slower, shes has some issues. but the hope was we would see her one more time. as i look down to keep an eye on my monitor, we are watching and waiting for the queen to arrive. again, it's within an -- been an amazing time here, four days where this country has basically shut down, turned off all it wore withlies about various things -- inflation, war, violence, you name it -- to mark this woman who's still very warmly regarded in the hearts and minds of the focus here and, well, in the u.s. and around the world. there have been some high points. again on thursday, we saw her out there with her heir, that's her son, prince charles, another

heir, that's the grandson, prince william. and even a few more, little prince george and the very cute prince louis. we should be seeing them again all together -- howard: greg? >> reporter: on friday there was a -- yes, sir. howard: let me just ask you, would there be a great sense of disappointment if she didn't make this final the appearance? the four-day celebration, obviously, is to honor her and her decades of service. >> reporter: i think there would have been, howie. i think in the our heart of hearts we pretty much thought that she would get it together to the leave windsor castle, to come to buckingham palace to appear one more time. she was probably just resting up, conserving her energy. she actually did see prince harry and her namesake, lilibet, the 1-year-old daughter of harry and meghan, yesterday at windsor castle. she's been active, she's been involved just not too public. now she thank you for covering this, greg we know you will stay on

first sign of the claim. that does wrap it up for this edition of media buzz. thank you for watching part are going to continue our coverage on fox of this royal jubilee. in order to help us do that, stay tuned because eric sean and arthel leverage and going to pick up the coverage and a few other things. arthel: oh boy today marks the final day of queen elizabeth the second platinum jubilee. it is 5:00 p.m. in london and they crowd is going wild. holding their collective baited breath hoping indeed her majesty will make an appearance today from the balcony they are of the buckingham palace but i know greg is there live in the middle of all of the excitement along with me here is rich edson. i don't know about you but i am like sue from saturday night