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i am bret baier. nation divided over some of the biggest issues of our time it raises questions about the future of americans freedom, security and democracy itself. ♪ >> january 6 was a culmination of an attempted coup. violent's was no accident. basics on capitol housebuilding blame for what happened at the u.s. capitol on january 6 on donald trump. while republicans claim the committee lacks credibility. >> it has permanently damage the house and divided this country. >> divided over guns.
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>> every day problem. >> code treat maces not shooting at schools, supermarkets and workplaces. divided over abortion. as congress considers what action to take after a threat on supreme court justice brett kavanaugh's life escalates fears of violence but was democratic senator chris coons a close ally of president biden on the bill he is sponsoring to extend security and protection for justices families. republican governor asa hutchinson joins us to discuss the prospects for finding common ground on guns and abortions for will ask her sunday panel what it will take to raise the level of political discourse in this country. as fox news sunday is on the road to the midterms in the pivotal swing state of nevada. ahead of another round of primaries. all it right on fox news sunday.
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bret: hello again from fox news in washington. it was a week of major challenges for everyday americans. and the elected officials responsible for steering the ship of state. hearings about the capitol right of january 6 it brought back memories of a mob of protesters attacking police and trying to stop the certification of the lawful election. marchers gathered in washington to push for gun control in response to the massacre at a texas elementary school. inflation rose again and the average price of gas hit a painful $5 a gallon nationwide. the challenges facing the nation hitting the white house heart as president biden struggles to push his agenda midway through the primary season. at a moment will speak with democratic senator chris coons about his parties struggles. first let's turk turned to lucas tomlinson live at the white house to look at how the biden administration is responding, lucas by. >> brett present biden wants to make gun control in the social
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and should issue in the upcoming midterm elections protesters across the country what action now. >> we are simply here to say enough is enough. >> thousands gathered on the national mall in in cities across the country following the mass shootings in buffalo, uvalde, chattanooga and philadelphia. so far no agreement has been reached on capitol hill for new link gun control legislation. >> also unfinished a final bill of protection for supreme court justice and their families. house speaker nancy pelosi under new pressure to pass the measure after an armed man was arrested for saying he wanted to kill associate justice brett kavanaugh. >> and no one is in danger over the weekend of not having the bill. >> the long-awaited hearing investigating the violence of the u.s. capitol on january 6 aired in primetime with millions watching. republican committee vice chair liz cheney said trumps bears
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responsibilities impressed lawmakers who stood by him. >> i say this to my republican colleagues you are defending the indefensible. there will come a day when donald trump is gone. your dishonor will remain. >> all this against the backdrop of crushing inflation. the labor department sank it jumped to 8.6% in may. >> the economy is in a better place and it has been historically. >> it is a tough sell for aaa said the national average for gas the highest in history crossing the 5-dollar threshold early saturday. in contrast biden's approval numbers now tying his record low at 33% two. present biden confirmed he will be going to saudi arabia next month. he claims it is not because of oil but for national security. brett. bret: lucas tomlinson reported for the white house thank you for joining said senator chris coons of delaware. the president's home state. welcome back to fox news sunday >> great to be on with the brett
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thank you for a are lucas' piece calling on himself he want to kill supreme court justice brett kavanaugh. he did that outside kavanaugh's home armed and prepared to do it. you cosponsor this bill last month to beef up security for supreme court justices and their family. but the house is not moved on that bill for 30 days pretty hurt house speaker nancy pelosi and took us his peace reference there is no problem here. there is protection for the justices, nobody's going to get harmed over the weekend. but what about that and what is the hold up? >> will bret i was welcome for the work with setter corby got that bill unanimously through the night state senate as you know these days not if things get through the senate. not with the kind of uniform universal support that bill enjoyed. the house is working to add a provision that would allow a marshal of the supreme court to decide to extend protection to the staff and families of staff
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of the supreme court. i think that is inappropriate that is an acceptable compromise. more than anything i think the house needs a take it up and pass it early next week. and i am optimistic after several conversation with house leadership that they will. rankly as you also reference in the introduction, bret, the january 6 hearing that just took place was a riveting reminder of the dangers of politically motivated violence in our country and the gun massacres -- the shootings that happened at a grocery store in buffalo and at an elementary school in uvalde are also a call to action. i am grateful to be working with senator cornyn as a part of a broad and bipartisan group that is working to address mental health and it gun safety as well. >> going to get to both of those other things and just a minute. but staying on this particular thing, there is already a federal statute on the books that makes it illegal to protest in front of a judge's home. it is title 18 section 1507.
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these groups are published to conservative justices addresses online for they have been protesting nightly. should they be arrested? >> look at bret we have to strike the right balance here between protecting radium of speech in this country and ensuring our justices and judges are safe. we passed a bill through the senate months and months ago that would also provide further protections obscuring the addresses. for example of justices and judges that is something we took up in the wake of a horrifying attack on the family of a federal court judge in new jersey where her son was killed. i do think we need to take stronger action to make sure that our federal judiciary is safe. that is part of making sure our democracy is safe which really is the core issue of the generous six hearing. how to make sure the fundamentals of our democracy, the safety and security of congress, the peaceful transfer of power and i would also add
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the safety and security of our federal judiciary is insured. >> editor were getting ready for this is going to be controversial no matter what happens if it matches the leaked draft opinion or not. there is this law on the books. i am just asking sure they follow the law question much of the attorney general say yes arrest those people before something happens? >> will bret, i think if the leaked version of the opinion is matched by what would be a remarkable act of judicial activism, conservative judicial activism there will be understandable anger across the nation. as an elected official i certainly have had purchased outside of my house. many of us have who serve in congress or other elected offices. but we need to make sure that all appropriate actions are being taken to ensure the safety of members of our federal judiciary including supreme court justices picnics don't arrest the protesters based on that title i got it that's what you're saying.
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>> bret let's be clear. i did not say don't arrest protesters. i am simply saying all appropriate action should be taken to ensure the safety of supreme court justices. i'm not going to sate this protester or that protester ought to be arrested. i just think that is a judgment call to be made by the law enforcement, not by a senator on the sunday show. >> understood they have not been arrested yet. nobody has for protesting outside these judges homes that were published online, only the conservative justices. i want to also ask you, the president is not said anything publicly about the specific threat about supreme court justice kavanaugh the white house press secretary said a couple of things in a gaggle to reporters that the president condemns the violence of any kind. should the president have said something publicly about this? >> bret the president has repeatedly spoken out against politically motivated violence in our country the risk of political basic violence in our country. as you well know presidents
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often speak more through their press secretaries to events of the day. i certainly have denounced this latest threat against justice kavanaugh. but it is important that we remember there are threats of political violence of many kinds and types and folks who are watching this morning who did not watch the generate six hearing should take a few moments and review what congresswoman alyssa cheney unimpeachable eight conservative republican from wyoming had to say in her opening statement. i think there are risks of political violence we should all be speaking out against acting to ensure we control, manage and reduce. >> what a talk but generally six in just a moment. don't you think democrats and media would possibly senator be making more about a threat like this a specific threat if it was happening to liberal justices? >> well, it bret you have in front of you the democratic senator who cosponsored with
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senator cornyn a bill that would provide greater security for. >> i'm just saying publicly. >> i do not know how more publicly i can say that i think threats of violence against supreme court justices, their families or clerks are reprehensible, unacceptable and we should take action to secure the federal judiciary. bret: last sunday for his generous six. a lot has been said about words how much they matter, how much stirring the pot, giving the green light to violence in any way, shape or form is unacceptable, take a listen to this. >> i want to tell you kavanaugh, you have released a whirlwind and you will pay the price. [cheering] you won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions. for six and the steps of the supreme court do those words qualify senator? >> so here's a key distinction. what senator schumer was saying
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was he was upset. he was alarmed, he was concerned at the prospect that justices would reverse decades of a well-established fundamental constitutional right in our country. but he did not say was let's go attack them. the point of the generally six hearing is to prove that is in fact what president trump did. had the words of congresswoman cheney summoned the mob. stirred up the mob and then lit the fuse that sent them storming the capitol of the united states. i do think there is a distinguishable difference which ♪ just heard from senator schumer and the actions taken by former president trump and his circle of advisors in the days before january 6. the results were clear and i think catastrophic. the physical assault of officers that led to several officer deaths and the shattering of the capitol perimeter that frankly is where the members of the senate who had to be escorted
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out along with the vice president by capitol police just feet ahead of an angry mob i do think we are at risk of a season of political violence in this country and all of us should reduce the temporary level of our rhetoric. >> including senator schumer has said the justices release the whirlwind and you will pay the price. you do not see any problem with that kind of language on the supreme court? >> that is not what i said pay what i just said bret is all of us need to reduce the level of our rhetoric. and be mindful of the fact stirring up potential violence is not a good or constructive thing to be doing at this moment our country by any political leader. speak the six eventually prime time hearing made the case about generally six in the importance. the committee obviously had this presentation the "new york times" said they praised it fortes sober approach. there will be many committee
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hearings to come but this is also the "new york times". it is clear the hearings coming five months before the midterm elections in which democrats are bracing for big losses carry high political stakes. are there concerns of polarization here in your mind senator? >> look, i think what impressed me about the generally six hearings about the first hearing that i watched was how clear and non- partisan, thoughtful and directed it was. i certainly do not think congressman cheney or congressman kinsinger were trying to impact the midterm election chances of democrats. i think the point here has been to take a hard and clear eyed look at what happened on january have uncovered about the role of the former presidents close advisors in how they shaped the events that led to that really critical moment in our modern american history. we have never had her capitol
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stormed by americans. we have never had an attempt to root insurrection through a right to try to interrupt the peaceful transfer of power. and brick, right now and work with a bipartisan group of senators to try to make reforms to the electoral act to make it clear that vice president pence did the right thing on the night of generally six that no vice president has the power nor should they to unilaterally overturn the will of the american people. quick speaking of the "new york times" of paper also detailed piece this weekend entitled should biden run in 2024. democratic says no start to rise in which the paper states that interviews dozens of democratic officials and members of congress backed biden in 2020 quote reveal a party alarmed about republicans rising strength and extraordinarily pessimistic about an immediate path forward. one committee members are quoted saying mr. biden should announces intent not to seek reelection 24 right after the
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midterms. you are a close ally. as president biden running in 24 and should he? >> the ses and i will tell you, bret it is my understanding -- mike let me be clear i'm not speaking on his behalf or announcing a candidacy i am just saying as of now it is my understanding that the president tends to seek a second term. and i understand why. his leadership on the world stage has been impressive he has just returned from a successful summit of the americas. he has pulled together for critical partners in the indo pacific innate new organization called the quad a new partnership with the allies. and in the face of russia's brutal invasion their aggression against ukraine president biden has shown a masterful skill at pulling together the eu and nato in order to push back in order to support ukraine's brave resistance to russian aggression here at home. his predecessor talked about infrastructure over and over. was never able to get a bill and
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infrastructure to the floor. into his death president biden signed into law where the biggest investments in infrastructure in american history. and president biden and democrats in the senate have a plan for how to reduce prescription drug prices. how to tackle health care costs that i remain optimistic we will get done. the deficit is coming down. he is not clear plans how to tackle inflation he's helped united states to a position of strength on the world stage great i can understand why he might think running for reelection is a good idea. bret: okay at last thing august the deficit numbers republicans point out went way up and covid took a dip because of that. at the other thing is saudi arabia it's been reported to have a president is going to visit saudi arabia. how, senator comic-con that not look like a blatant effort to try to get gas prices down? >> well the president is going to the gcc. this is a summit that is being
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hosted by the saudi kingdom that will allow him a chance at one time one place to meet with a whole range of heads of state from the persian gulf, from the middle east. the president as you has decades of experience in foreign policy. and i trust is a firm hand, his leadership in this moment to pray we do need to improve the supply of oil and gas to our western european partners in order to help sustain their support for ukraine's fierce resistance against russia's invasion. and i do expect the president will be addressing both the human rights record of the leadership of saudi arabia and our shared security's concerns were concerns about around the our concerns about the war in yemen oil and gas supply, i think this is another moment where the president may well make significant steps forward in terms of supporting the security of our vital partner israel in the region and of addressing the real threat to security posed by ironic and iran's nuclear programs. i am optimistic this will be
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another productive step forward on the world stage by one of america's most seasoned foreign policy leaders president biden. bret: thank you, senator kunz always nice to speak with you. >> thank you bret. bret: ethics will sit down with arkansas governor asa hutchinson to discuss the efforts trying to to discuss the efforts trying to find agreement on gun reform daddy, is that where we're from? well, actually, we're from a lot of places. see, we're from here, and there... give dad a gift worth sharing, at ancestry.com
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bret: american have difficulties mastering elementary school the man threatened to kill a member of the supreme court. primetime hearing is revisiting the dark day of january 6, 2021 on capitol hill.
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it is that kind of moment up its political leadership to the chest. joining us now from arkansas chair of the national governors association, asa hutchinson. governor welcome back to fox news sunday because it's always good to be with you bret. generally six committee revealed some of their findings in the primetime hearing that they played new clips from depositions of some of president trump's inner circle. >> i made it clear i did not agree with the idea of saying the election was stolen and putting out the stuff which i told the president was a bowl. cook's my perspective i respect attorney general barr. though i accepted what he was saying. >> they suggested former president new he had lost the 2020 election. but was still trying to hold onto power. what is your reaction to the hearing? >> my reaction to the hearing is that it is an important review as to what happened on
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january 6. i've always said we need to do this. this is not the most bipartisan effort in it. but it is a review that is important. obviously, as they present the case americans see this and they want to hold the people who are responsible for the january 6 attack accountable. now, the whole premise of the hearing is that president trump is criminally responsible and that is the case they are trying to make. as bill barr has said, i think that is a heavy lift. i do not see the factual basis for that. you can make the case and i would agree that he is a politically, morally responsible for much of what has happened but in terms of criminal liability, i think the committee has a long way to go before they can establish that. i think the key thing politically is that the american public does not want us to focus on the past. it is an important review but i
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think the democrats make a mistake if they simply want to re- litigate what they did in the impeachment. it is about the future always in solving problems. we have enough problems to address it. that is with the american people want us to focus on to a greater extent. bret: you've said something like this before in which you said it is important, republicans have to make sure we are clear president trump did have some responsibility for that. congresswoman lizza cheney was little more points on thursday night about republicans and their role, take a listen. >> i say this to my republican colleagues, you are defending the indefensible. there will come a day when donald trump is gone. but your dishonor will remain. bret: wall street journal put it this way, mr. trump betrayed his supporters by conning them on january 6. and he is still doing it. the wall street journal editorial board.
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so might question, governor, what is the future of the republican party all this? and on republican leadership? >> oh well, i hope that the future of the republican party is different than former president trump's leadership. i hope we move in a different direction. i believe what happened on january 6 is a lot at his feet. it was wrong for our country and for him to continue to push that theory. i agree is the wrong direction for the republican party. i think there is many republicans that are looking for an offramp. a new opportunities to find a leadership in the future. obviously it president trump there's a lot of things he did that were very good and i agree with. but he got off track on january 6 heard that was a costly error for our democracy. and i agree with a lot of the
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comments. he has responsibility there. we need to make sure that is clear. i think republicans need to do a lot of soul-searching as to what is the right thing here? what is the right thing to say for our party, our democracy and our future. not simply appeal to the basest instincts is some of our base. bret: let's talk policy. upon the hill this negotiators or try to find compromise on finalizing bipartisan agreement on that narrow set of goals for gun control proposal spirit hears what they are looking at we are told. it had school safety, federal support for mental health programs, state incentives red flag laws, expansionist federal background checks and raising the minimum purchasing age for an ar-15 to 20 whimpered arkansas' limit age is 18 per there are no red flag laws. what about this effort on capitol hill, governor? >> well, i applaud the senators
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for trying to look at this in a bipartisan way and find out is there narrow path we can better protect her children? it is a discussion we absolutely need to have and i them for doing it. as you know i joined a letter from the national governors association to create a bipartisan review by governors. part of it is to evaluate what is going to be coming out of the senates. making comments because the governors are going to be the ones to implement the mental health policy and strengthening that. it is going to be responsible for school safety. hope there good things that come out of this look at the age of 21 or 18 there's constitutional issues there. but that has to be a part of the discussion. it is difficult it's going to be a narrow path but it is a conversation particularly look
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at what comes out of the senate side paragraphs government we have seen florida, washington, vermont, california and hawaii all raise the age to purchase a long gun from 18 -- 21. if there's no dealing capitol hill federally would you consider doing that the state of arkansas? >> no i would not. you called it a long gun. i believe someone is 18 should be able to go out there and shoot ducks with a long lawn and be able to purchase that. >> jewelry to clarify it more an ar-15? >> yes ar-15 style is something that should be part of the conversation versus simply a long gun. and that is a challenge we face. first california federal judge struck that limitation down as unconstitutional. and then secondly the definitions for that is what you've got to really listen to each other and come down.
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yes they ar-15's dealt military weapons to be part of the conversation whether they should be ration 21 pickwick to my point if they don't do it here in capitol hill we would consider the raising of the age of 18 to 21 on an ar-15 in arkansas? >> i have not seen a definition that works yet. but we will look at that. what you're going to see coming out of the senate is something we need to respond to his governors. i think that is how we would approach it pickwick some of the economy quickly inflation had another four decade high last month. gas prices as you know continue to soar. take a listen to what the president had to say about all of that this week. >> today's inflation report confirm what america already knows. putin's price hike is hitting america hard. gas prices at the pump, energy and food prices account for half of the monthly price increase since may. >> when you make of the presence of messaging and leadership on
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this issue? >> listen to his remarks at the port of los angeles. they were in fact disappointing. he was engaging and blaming everyone from senator scott to putin. he was a blaming corporate america and really did not provide the leadership that is needed during this time. americans want a leader that will lay out the challenge that we face. what is the solution and the direction we need to go? what we will be looking at in october and november of this year. the blame game is not presidential i don't think is what we needed. arkansas right now are paying $500 more per month 2021 simply because of inflation. this hurts the pocketbook of hard-working americans. and what we have heard so far is
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not sufficient. energy is a big driver in this. gas prices and that impacts our agriculture parade that impacts our production. every commodity really that is where this suppressant has failed us an effective policy that america produces and is independent. bret: governor hutchinson thank you for your time this morning. >> good to both you bret thank you. bret: next will bring up our sunday grip on the follow-up of the january 6 hearing.
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what's president trump summoned a mob, assembled the mob, and lit the flame of this attack. >> republican congressman liz cheney investigating january 6 that bluntly blaming former president trump. it is time now for sunday group national political
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correspondent, mara liasson per fox news contributor call roper fox news political analyst juan williams and jon kraushaar of the "washington journal". what is the fallout? >> the fall out it lays out a pretty clear case of trump's responsibility reach the capitol them before president trump's bucca. they pretty compelling video of the proud boys going up for gave the speech. this new information got to members of congress seeking pardons. what president trump said is pretty compelling how to fix public opinion is unclear. but i think for the historical record they're laying down a pretty compelling case >> office it was clear if there is no opposition side where there is no other side of the storage of this committee. >> so far. i am not certain how much is going to impact public opinion. we did learn some new things.
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i think were going to learn the most important things in the trials of the oath keepers and proud boys. if they were in communication in advance of january 6 with the willard command center rudy giuliani, steve bannon, we know the command center was in communication with the white house. if the oath keepers and proud boys were in communication with the command center will raise the question of what did the president know and when did he know it? that's going to be the key moment. bret: chairman said and entered with that testimony coming that's going to link to the trump inner circle. but juan, what about the american public's perception of this going back to that day and what does it mean now? >> i think you can break it down. we are such a highly polarized country, bret, if you would say are not going to change their mind. height number of republicans are going to say high percentage of
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democrats it will say trump was a cancer on american politics? but in between you might have 20% who might be persuadable men who are people this comes a little bit from the discussion had to senator coons this is what is going on in my live now what about gas prices what about food prices, inflation, immigration, guns. but nonetheless those are people who might hear in these hearings they had 20 million people apparently tuning in. they might hear things and say this is an attack on democracy itself. democracy was under attack on january 6. we now have people running for office to continue to perpetrate the big lie. it is a little unsettling. that might drive some people who would turn out or not turn out in the midterms. bret: and josh are we clear with the blueprint is where they want to go whether there are criminal
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charges or preventing for president trump from running again? >> there's not a whole lot new. we learned a few new details about the proud boys and they're planning for this is more of a documentary we are reminded of the pain that everyone followed on january 6. that is not going to move the political needle a whole lot people are feeling pain economically as juan was talking about painful moment in our past. there may be a pretext for the d.o.j. to make a move. i think this is more of a pr display more than a pretext of legal action by the white house. bret: i was struck and i said this to senator coons the lack of talking about this threat to justice kavanaugh on the coverage of it as compared too if this had been a liberal justice with the trump supporter ghana wacko outside their house.
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>> absolutely. this is sort of personal i know ashley and brett kavanaugh personally from our time together the white house. it is amazing to me. the law is clear you quoted it. it goes on to say with the intent of influencing any judge. the american civil liberties union said this statute but we interpret the following wipe and we point to supreme court case that suggest as long as they keep moving in front of the house but they are stationed there should be arrested. they are moving in front of the house they have a right to try and influence a supreme court justice. and that is ridiculous. and if it is true i did not see senator schumer moving very much behind that microphone in front of the supreme court. includes a supreme court justice. we either ought to apply the law or simply say it's open season on judges because that is what we are doing. >> have a right to protest. >> to have a right to protest anywhere in america now. clearly these people should not be violent this should not
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threaten. is not about the influence it's about a supreme court that is become a radical extremists and activists went to put out a decision is going to polarize the country. i knew 50 years of lava. >> because you disagree with the perspective decision you think people have a right to show up in front of the house and tried to intimidate a judge to change their mind? how about any case in america? would you defend everybody every judge and say if you decide one way or the other you deserve my -- me processing in front of your house that is intimidation. burke's car up the sky was suicidal and there is no excusing him pickwick so i'm not talking about him. talk about people. [inaudible] ask karl just a second period i am saying we as americans all have a right to express our upset with undoing 50 years of law with regard to abortion. is it an attack on right.
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>> for the groups publish the addresses of the justices. >> i think everyone sitting at the stable people demonstrating come to the door parts unsettling no one is defending it. the right to protest is essential to american regard scott in front of their house. >> i'm telling you in politics that's reality. >> is not a good reality. >> a wake-up call to get this bill through the house. >> the bill will be passed relook supreme court justices deserve security and they deserve the safety being able to live in the house without fear. however there was a case where a judges husband and son were shot, killed the guy who did it did have a dossier that got very little coverage. for conservative safe was a liberal judge because of a much bigger deal, wrong. bret: right panel think you get to take a break herein we come back we took of the road to the midterms in the silver state this major shift underway and voter party registration
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basics fox news centers on the road to midterms or primaries in four states this tuesday. in the swing state of nevada hit hard by pandemic economy, more and more voters are leaving their political party, registering instead as independents. democrats have lost the most ground in that move so far. takes us to clark county where inflation that scorching summer heat are hitting service workers hard. >> the excessive heat is near here to states we head into the weekend 84 degrees outside this morning as temperatures.
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>> it is hot. >> like so many americans salvador just cannot get ahead. next i never dreamed i would have to work two jobs to make 30 to 50 an hour. never progress 36-year-old is a single dad working two jobs including the graveyard shift at a mcdonald's. today he does not know how he will get to work. >> i was not able to make it to my second job today because of gas prices. that one thing stopped. i do still have my night shift coming up that i'm going to be going to work local that's only a mile away so even without the car can make that >> would move up the car you can make that? pics i buy had to walk i could do that. >> when you think of that when you come to bed at night go to your shift? >> getting back to them in the
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morning. >> nevada democrats need voters like salvador, they arty have voters like kevin carter a culinary worker at the mgm grand and proud union member. >> you got paid $7 for toothpaste at a grocery store? what has gone up so drastically on toothpaste to producers to ship it what? >> he and his wife tanya don't blame democrats for their problems. they blame corporate america. >> that's a grocery stores doing that. how can gas go up every day or every three or four days? two cents, 3 cents, 5 cents. it is insane. >> it is ridiculous but. >> nevada has become increasingly competitive. often drawing in huge names during presidential campaigns. in midterms right now it is a race to the middle with independent and unaffiliated voters becoming the majority.
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we try to catch up with incumbent democrat congresswoman susie lee. >> nevada democrats know how to win the top fight. [cheering] >> who represents the third to ask her about all of this. >> the mailbox is full and cannot accept any messages at this time. goodbye picnics we never could walk down an interview. in a statement though lee told us i am fighting every day to bring costs down for our families and ensure that they thrive is our economy bounces back and we continue to recover. it's. >> they're not making good decisions we. >> we did of the democratic primary challenger randy hines who said he would want to call himself a democrat. >> the only thing that makes her democrat or makes a republican is putting a democrat or on your voter registration. that's what i did to be on the primary ballot pickwick so what are you what would you call yourself? >> i am a fiscal conservative a little bit right of center.
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but i see all the things of the social program so we have already >> you would run as a centrist if you could? >> if i could if i could. >> essential make the costs come down for us a little bit bigger expert salvador it's not about who is a democrat or republican. it is about who can deliver. >> what can congress do for a nevada dad at is thinking about walking to work because he can't afford gas? >> i mean what can they do, spend more wisely so we don't end up paying the price at the end of the day. bret: aishah hasnie reporting from nevada back with the panel. josh that piece tells a big story. we have it primaries in nevada, maine, north dakota, south carolina, texas special election. democrats are facing headwinds this election but you have this new poll out showing president's job approval for everybody sits
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at 33% approve, disapprove 55% then you look at independence, 25% approval for president biden. that is not just a headwind that is exhausted. >> is a red wave numbers. emmy democrat and a swing district swing state like nevada's got to be watching their back. look if i had a whiteboard here touts a nevada, nevada, nevada is going to be the bellwether in november but he got a centers race and governors raised 34 democratic members of congress in tough races we heard on the segment. it could be a sweep for republicans in a state they haven't won at the presidential level since 2004. there's a lot of head when the democratic party is facing the economy's the biggest issue pretty wide nevada it's having troublemaking ends meet for. >> since it whiteboard was mention you get a rebuttal bigger ask no rebuttal there's a reason why the numbers 33 it goes back to something center koontz said what he said this inflation is all in putin. inflation was running at 1.4%
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january of 2021. it was running at 7.871% in february. in putin invading ukraine for days before the end of the month it is now 8.582% in may. that means 90% of the inflation that we have had since a time before putin invaded ukraine. they know this is not putin. they notes a bad decision that were made in 2021. with the american rescue plan and too much spending. may quote my favorite current democratic economist customer quote over the last 75 years every time inflation has exceeded 4% and un- employment has been below 5% the u.s. economy has gone into a recession within two years. today inflation is north of 6% when he wrote is now north of eight and a half. and unemployment is south of 4%, larry summers. got a recession common in a becoming for the 2024 election all likelihood.
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>> fedex seo founders fred smith said promote obama once told him that his approval ratings tracked opposite of gas prices. almost diametrically. >> to look at this present inflation is one of those things i disagree with carl the american rescue plan might have contributed but inflation is global. the reasons for it are about supply chain, a whole bunch of other things. but, the problem is that there are a lot of things that are not the president's fault but they are his problem. and inflation is a single economic indicator that affects people the most every single day. so what if it is on fire they still have to fill their car up with gas and inflation is eating away all his wage against the wet white house like to talk about. it is a problem there's very little the president can do is up to the fed often times when the fed tightens we get a recession. 85% of americans that lady's poll said they expect is going to be a recession. though it is a real problem.
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>> took carl's point there were red flags and warning signs and flares going up. >> larry summers all along to the american rescue plan is too big. and was potentially inflationary and the fed may be did not do enough sooner. bret: wand besides the economy the inflation there also issues like crime and you have this recall in san francisco the district attorney getting recalled in san francisco because of how he is dealing with crime, similar to other places you may see that in los angeles as well. >> i think crime again especially violent crime and guns are huge issue right now. we talk about inflation, we talk about abortion and potential for anger over that decision. i think there's a lot of frustration with the inability of the political class to do anything when you see children being slaughtered and people in the afternoon supermarket being slaughtered. and so right now there is a sense there has to be some
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change. people are looking for change. there is a lot of resentment out there. we protect what midterm politics, you go back to even to bill clinton and 92. you come forward president obama and ten. president trump and 18. all of them lost a big in midterms. that is the historical model. i think a reason a lot of the reason for that is that there is frustration, resentment of the direction of the country and people are speaking out in frustration against the elected class the party in power. >> the question is if they do lose, if it was held tomorrow would be a big red wave. what they do like bill clinton did in 94 when change and use some republican policies to their own? do you see that do you still see progressives running the democratic party? >> i think progressives right now are the energy paid less to save joe biden is a moderate pretty as the head of the party
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for now even though people may have skepticism about his future but he is the head of the party and he models reasonableness, decency empathy. i think that is the drive of your people on the democratic side often times when him to be more aggressive they see the republicans as the aggressors and biden is not fighting back saying mitch mcconnell is his buddy. six i see will see look at your face. note the look is his claim to be a moderate but is not governed as one and he is not going to change after this election know if, and, or about pres going to go stay stuck oreos which is unfortunate for him in a fortune for the country. bret: panel thank you very much will soon extended right up next and final word on the week ahead and special debate on moderate between two nations most well-known senators.
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>> it is called the senate project. the default live oxford style
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debate on moderate between senators lindsey graham and bernie sanders, two different sides of the ideological spectrum. you can watch the debate to mars from 9:12 p.m. eastern on fox nation by bringing highlights in the debates to run at 6:00 p.m. special report from boston hope he will us. but is it for today i am bret baier. make it a great week we will see you next fox news. >> evening everyone welcome next revolution will allow me to introduce to the concept of the cell phone as you know we prefer policy-based arguments what's fascinating about american politics is the democrat policy agenda is based on owning themselves. like clockwork. tiktok.

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