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violence in the united states. washington, new york, chicago and atlanta, some of the cities seeing deadly shootings as the country braces for a possible summer unrest. all of this ahead of a midterm election where crime will likely be a top concern for voters. >> anita: thank you so much, i'm anita vogel in for sandra smith. a teenager is dead in the nation's capital and three others are hurt including a d.c. police officer during a shooting during a concert. the teen was screaming for his mother as chaos unfolded around him. >> john: a stampede as dozens attempted to escape. more than 100 officers were at the scene but organizers of the event were completely overwhelmed. park meredith to kick us off

with more on the tragic events. >> another violent weekend in the nation's capital, and one shooting a lot of attention after a 15-year-old boy was killed and multiple other people were hurt. police have not identified the victim in the shooting but witnesses say he was calling for his mom just after being shot. police say the large crowds were out for a juneteenth celebration but this was not a city sanctioned event and the organizers may be held accountable for what happened. >> this is one of the reasons why we don't want unpermitted events taking place in our city. unfortunately things like this can happen, when you have the wrong mix of people, or people who introduce firearms into a situation. >> over the weekend, in virginia, 22-year-old man allegedly fired multiple gunshots inside a mall. nobody was shot, people did get hurt because they were running from the scene. police say they know who they are looking for but the suspect remains at large.

in new york, one killed, eight others shot in harlem. they could not believe how many gunshots they heard. the man who was killed, only 21 years old. >> feel likes it's only going to get worse, you know what i'm saying, it ain't going to get better. >> this latest wave of gun violence comes amid talks here in d.c. how best to curb shootings. americans appear to be evenly split on which party they believe will do best to handle the situation. either way with the stories popping up on a near daily basis, if not hourly, likely to be on voter's minds as they head into the midterm elections. >> they will be here before we know it, and december will go by quickly, particularly if it's as violent as right now, and likely will continue to be. mark, thank you. a kid screaming for his mother as he was bleeding out in the street here in washington, d.c. >> anita: so sad, and unpermitted event.

apparently they were playing music out of a truck, so when you have an unpermitted concert event like that, you don't have any security agreements with the city, no police officers, something bad is bound to happen. >> john: but just the fact that why would something bad happen? you know, people used to get into fist fights, now gun fights. >> anita: the environment we are in. all right. well, a group of top economists surveyed by the wall street journal have now put the odds of a recession occurring in the next year at 44%. that is the highest in 15 years. president biden and his treasury secretary are still claiming a recession is not inevitable, even as inflation shows no signs of slowing down. new york post predicting a tough summer ahead on its front page reading "sale to the chief, bidenflation will cost 17% more for summer barbecues."

and jim banks on the new gop plan to fight inflation but first peter doocy live on the north lawn. and peter, americans have been waiting so long to have the back yard barbecues, for the 4th of july. >> you need more motivation which hot dog you are going to get, but heard from the president today, he said by the end of this week he is going to have a decision on some sort of relief for americans that need to buy gas. and he revealed in his clip you are about to see, before the decision is made, taking a very hands off approach. >> are you planning to sit down with oil and gas -- >> no. >> why is that, sir? >> my team is going to do that. >> you did that with retailers and logistics companies and consumer companies. >> staffing shortages at

airlines, combined with bad weather this weekend for a nightmare travel scenario. thousands of flights either delayed or canceled, including one with the transportation secretary, pete buttigieg, says after that he wants airlines to stress test their summer schedule to avoid further chaos. and this comes as one of the democratic party's top economic voices warns of a looming recession. >> there's always a first time for everything and i don't want ever to make forecasts with certainty, but if you look at a whole range of indicators, if you look at what's happened in markets, the dominant probability would be that by the end of next year we would be seeing a recession in the american economy. >> well, that is a line white house officials are very sensitive to, including the president who apparently followed up.

>> no, i don't think it is. i was talking to larry summers this morning, and there's nothing in there about a recession. >> the president says he is feeling fine after falling hard off his bike on saturday. he claims to return here to the white house very late tonight after 9:00 p.m., anita. >> anita: all right, peter live at the white house. thank you so much. >> john: indiana republican congressman and share of the study committee jim banks, recently released 122-page plan to turn the economy around, cut $14 trillion from the budget over the course of ten years, how do you do that without gutting something? >> it takes courage and boldness, and republicans will bring back fiscal sanity. we put out the budget proposal,

balances in less than seven years. if we are serious about combatting inflation and restoring the value of the dollar we have to start with that, and on top of that, we need to make america energy independent again, roll back the incredible sheer number of regulations that the biden administration has put in place. economists tell us that for every 15% of new regulations on american businesses, 1% of inflation and this administration has surpassed the obama administration times two in the first year after a half on regulations on american businesses. >> anita: part of what the committee is looking at is restoring the power of the american family. you put out legislation or policy initiatives saying if the american experiment is to survive, the family must be restored. we hear so much about how our democracy is under attack. but you are saying the american

families are under attack. >> more than ever before and the policy makers have to make supporting families a central part of the agenda, we need to make this a core mission of who we are and what we stand for when we are in the majority. what do i mean by that? policies in place that support two-parent homes and support our kids, put parents in charge of their kids' education, get rid of some of the filth taught in the schools, teaches anti-americanism and radical gender theories in the schools as well. so those are initiatives -- the republican study committee is a caucus of 160 republicans out of 212, so we are the vast majority of republicans. we believe families matter and we believe this needs to be a core mission what we need to do when we get back the gavels come january. >> john: back to the dollars and cents, i started covering the

white house at the end of the clinton administration, debt 5.6 trillion, they were thinking about retiring it, don't have to worry about that. but one of the ways you cut the budget, you cut $10 trillion from mandatory spending. and one of the ways you get there is raising the eligibility age for social media and medicare, 69 the target date, you want people to stay in the workforce longer. but other provisions, too, no doubt controversial, seniors would get a subsidy for purchasing private insurance, critics say it could leave a huge gap in coverage and block grants for medicaid, snap programs, and more, could create disparity across the states. so how do you make it even? and how do you make sure that everybody gets coverage that they want while still trying to trim the budget? >> if we want social security and medicare and medicaid to last so future generations like my generation can take advantage of programs like that, we have

to make the fixes now and the republican study committee does not affect anyone who relies on the programs today, but eligibility for my kids generations, and experts say social security will be dry in a matter of a few years. so, these are the tough decisions we have to make but they are the necessary things we have to do to not just drive down you the national, 30 trillion plus national debt that we have today because of reckless spending in washington by democrats and republicans, but sustain the programs. and let the states, block grant programs to the states lets the states control the destiny of who benefits from the programs as well, and that brings necessary improvements and the type of reforms that are meaningful for a long time to come as well. >> john: i expect you are going to run into a buzz saw of opposition from the democrats on that. >> i imagine so, but many democrats recognize the reality

of the programs will go bust if we don't do something about it. so the american people are looking for leadership, they don't care whether you have an r or a d next to your name as long as you are leading and making the tough decisions, republicans at this point are the only ones who have serious solutions to bring forward on issues like these when we get the majority back, an opportunity to do something about it. >> anita: the topic to the protest outside of the supreme court justices' homes. on fox news sunday, senator mike lee had a lot to say about that. >> the justice department has turned a blind eye to blatant violations of 18u.s.c. section 1507, provision that prohibits people from showing up at the home of a supreme court justice to protest. and by not condemning those, by not prosecuting them, the biden administration is propeling this and legitimizing the attacks.

>> they are so hyper focused on january 6th with the sham committee, yet their own rhetoric is inciting people to show up at the supreme court justice homes, it's illegal to do this, to go to the home and try to pressure them to change their decision or make a decision one way or the other. there is a one-sided justice system, quick to go after parents who show up at school board meetings but they drag their feet about supreme court justices or the 40 violent attacks on crisis pregnancy centers around the country as well, it shows there are two sets of rules. >> john: one more question about the midterm elections. and how candidates should handle president trump and his influence. a new book called this will not

pass, suggests after karl rove wrote a critical piece in the wall street journal about president trump's c-pac speech in 2021, you sent karl rove a message, you are the voice of reason, agree with some things you said, at the same time praising president trump. look at what happened in south carolina, what is the best way to deal with president trump when it comes to these midterm elections? using the mace model where you can disagree with the president, you can be critical of him but the same time, unlike congressman rice, not try to kill him. >> president trump remains popular in districts like mine in northeast indiana, and many places he is such a big help to us to turn out the trump voters who are not traditional republican voters. i wrote a memo about this over a year ago. how do we cement the republican party as the party of working

class voters and president trump taught us how to do that, he taught us how to formulate a policy agenda putting america first in economic policy, foreign policy, trade policy that brings voters to the republican side who were not there before. so, overall, president trump brings a lot to the table as we head into the midterm lections, helping us turn out voters who would not be there otherwise. >> karl rove was very critical of his tone in that speech. divisive, called it embittered. >> president trump brings so much to the table, helps turn out voters, he's a big reason why not just win back the majority but dozens, 30, 40 seat majority because of the thoughtful policy agenda that president trump brought to the republican side that's going to help us bring voters we didn't have otherwise. >> john: it's going to be an interesting election, no question. >> it will indeed.

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>> if i come to conclude that i'm the right person to carry that mantle forward i will try and make that class to the

american people in the great state of iowa. >> i've never lost a race, i will not start now. a place for me, put 1,000% and finish it. >> we have got ten, i'm getting things done. >> it's important we win back the congress, i'll take the election first and see what happens after the midterms. >> anita: welcome back. former secretary of state mike pompeo, former u.s. ambassador to the united nations, nikki haley, ron desantis and tom cotton all dropping hints of a potential presidential run, president trump teases a comeback in 2024. charlie hurt, washington times opinion editor and charlie, great to see you. so both mike pompeo and nikki haley, they were headliners at a faith and freedom coalition event in nashville.

they will not make up their mind about running until after the midterms, maybe after the first of the year but does not sound like they are going to wait to see what former president trump will do. specifically mike pompeo saying the field doesn't have to wait for the former president to make a decision. what do you think? >> yeah, and i think he's right about that. i think they are probably very smart to start laying the ground work for whatever happens, whether president trump gets back into the race or not. it's always smart to sort of establish those relationships and make your arguments, fine tune your arguments now, which i think is what they are doing. i don't know that all of these people that are sort of signalling their interest in running will necessarily get into the race if president trump does get into the race. but even if they, you know, even if he does and they don't, they'll be very important assets to the president in running for re-election. but that montage you showed,

it's a neat montage. i think what it shows, it shows a very vibrant party with a lot of promising leaders who are feeling very hopeful about the future for the country, but for their role and the importance of their ideas in it, and when you contrast that with president biden and the democrats, it's a stark difference there. >> anita: there are a lot of possible contenders on the gop side, at least 14 or 15 at this point. let's put their pictures on the screen. quite a few, and you are going to see some familiar faces here. mike pompeo, we just heard from him, nikki haley, many other. florida governor ron desantis, mike pence, so when you look at this field right here, who do you see pulling the trigger? and remember, some of these folks were trump's biggest

supporters, in his administration as well. >> oh, absolutely. and that's why i think that i do think that while it's smart for all of these candidates to be out there campaigning and talking to voters right now, we won't have any idea what the election looks like until we know what donald trump does, and let's also remember in this environment, a year is an eternity in politics these days with the things move at such a fast clip over the last five or so years, and a lot of that has to do with the degree to which donald trump overturned all of sort of the political establishment in both parties, quite frankly. and so it will be sort of interesting to see. but you know, i think that you have a guy like ron desantis who has, is so -- his biggest drawback for him is the fact that he is getting a lot done, his voters in florida absolutely love what he's doing and i think

that there are probably a lot of florida republicans would be disappointed if he were to stop what he's doing there to go run a national campaign. that's a pretty good problem to have. >> anita: yes, definitely is and he's fairly young as well, so he has a lot of time if he does not get in this cycle, he has a future ahead of him. but charlie hurt, it is going to be so interesting, it is quite a long ways away but people are talking about it now. charlie, thank you so much. see you again. >> great to see you. >> john: any moment now it will be around the corner. more charges are expected after seven cbs staffers from the stephen colbert show were arrested for illegally entering u.s. capitol grounds to film comedy sketches on the january 6th hearings. what are you finding out about this, chad? >> chad: capitol police kicked out the colbert seven earlier in

the day thursday, they were trying to cover the 1/6 committee hearing. they were denied press credentials because they are entertainment, not news. but they found them back in the building. banging on doors of gop members, and acting out skits for tv. they were busted for unlawful entry. >> looks like an example of a bunch of agenda journalists trying to make democrats look good and republicans look bad, and that's why i've said it in another context, that's why the american people are not -- they are not fooled. >> chad: you are not allowed to be inside the capitol complex without a credential after hours unless you have an appoint. fox has told an aide from a massachusetts democrat allowed them back in. the committee just released a

video which shows a gop member giving what democrats described as surveillance tours before the riot. the committee holds two more hearings this week. the panel is still probing the pressure campaign applied to vice president pence to help president trump win. >> it was a concerted, persistent effort of pressuring his vice president, not only in person, not only on the phone, but through speeches, through tweets, to the point where, and this is one of the stunning things, the vice president of the united states refused to get into the car driven by the secret service when his life was in danger. >> chad: tomorrow's hearing looks at efforts to persuade election officials to switch the election. >> anita: swimming international

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>> i don't think that policies are responsible for what's happening in the oil market. actually consumption of gas and fuels are currently at lower levels than pre-pandemic. i think that producers were partly caught unaware by the

strength of the recovery. >> john: treasury secretary janet yellen saying biden administration policy is not the reason for the skyrocketing price of gasoline. the biden administration is blaming oil producers for higher prices, while pushing for more green energy. but the american petroleum institute says it's actually misguided policy coming from the white house to blame for increasing prices at the pump. let's bring in oil trader and fox business contributor, phil flynn. so what yellen said there, biden policies not responsible for increase in gas prices yet all through the campaign biden promised to put a bullet in the oil and gas industry and on day one of his administration took steps to do just that. who is to blame? >> phil: well, i mean, their policies are to blame, it's obvious and they should own it. you are right, this is what they campaigned on. they campaigned on higher energy prices. secretary yellen continues to

say you know, the green energy is a solution and the medium term, no, green energy has been the problem and what janet yellen has done has cut off the life blood of the u.s. oil and gas industry, and that is investment. you can't have it both ways. you can't say the refiners are the problem, they are not producing enough gas, but actively tell investors to not invest in oil and gas, and that's exactly what she did. so, she should take responsibility for her part in this energy crisis. >> john: and the appearance on the sunday show yesterday, yellen pointed out oil production is down, largely a factor of covid restrictions, and said refining capacity is down and that is true. but here is the reason why from the american fuel and petroll chemical manufacturers, refining is a long view industry. facility closures and transitions are not knee jerk

decisions and never intended to be undone. they are meticulously reasoned and based on far more than short-term transitory data. the key there is refining is a long view industry. what's the long view from the biden administration when it comes to refining and oil and gas production? >> phil: the long view is to put refineries out of business, that's what they said, and that's the message to investors and why the american petroleum institute and people in the industry are not investing in the refineries like they normally would be, right. because they are being told they are going to be put out of business and if you go through the list of regulations that the biden administration has put on the industry, the taxes, you know, the drilling moratoriums, cancelling pipelines, it's the least friendly administration to fossil fuels in history, and everything they have done has raised prices, and to blame

somebody else is kind of a sad state of where the biden administration is because i don't think they take credit or blame for anything. >> john: we all remember the energy secretary, jennifer granholm burst out laughing when she was asked what could be done about gasoline prices, last week she made an appearance on a morning show in which she really illuminated what the biden policy is here, and that is trying to cajole oil companies to refine more and produce more gasoline and the same time saying your days are numbered. listen to what she said. an we are saying today we need the supply increased. in 5 or 10 years, in the immediate, we are also pressing on the accelerator, if you will, to move toward clean energy. >> john: try to have it both ways, phil? >> phil: exactly, and both ways contradict each other and no basis in reality.

and i think that is their energy policy. they have no basis in the reality. yeah, replace everything, let's close refineries, let's shut pipelines, shut down nuclear power plants, but they don't have an answer for how you replace that. and what we are finding is they can't. >> john: so the move toward green energy, is this a policy or ideology? >> phil: it's an ideology and not based in reality. you know, when you talk about wind farms and what you have to do to scale it to meet energy demands of today, whether you are talking about solar and inability to capture electricity and you talk about electric cars, electric cars do not produce electricity, they store electricity. you have to get that electricity from somewhere. and right now our power grid can barely keep up with providing the energy it normally does. >> john: and the greens don't want to build nuclear power plants, i don't know where they are going to get the electricity

they need. good to get your take on things. thank you. >> anita: john, the war in ukraine hitting a critical moment this hour as russia appears to tighten its grip on two key cities in the east. while the u.s. is committed to sending more weapons, the delay in delivery is giving putin a leg up in the war. nate foy is live in lviv with an update on all of this. hi, nate. >> hey, anita, good afternoon. russian officials say an oil drilling platform operated by a crimean company was hit in the black sea, russian officials say three people are hurt and seven are missing and there are reports of a counter strike in the port city of odesa, but we are working to confirm that. the real intense part of the fight continues to be in the east, in donbas. a city, the lone remaining

hold-out in terms of large cities not under russian control. right now the video is 80% under russian control, speaking of the large city. all bridges into the city have been destroyed, but there is a town across the river that has some elevation in an otherwise flat area, could be a good defensive possession if the city falls. president zelenskyy is back in kyiv after visiting mykolaiv and odesa, and promising to take back the southern regions taken by russia, specifically kherson, and the russians are taking defensive positions after ukrainian counter attacks in the area. and many in ukraine are hopeful e.u. leaders will vote to give the country candidate status to join the european union. the commission recommended that,

but only happen if all 27 member states unanimously vote in favor of ukraine, and also moldova. president zelenskyy talking about how important this moment is. >> i think it's obvious to everyone that since 1991 there have been few such fateful decisions for ukraine as we expect now. i am convinced only a positive decision with the interest for the whole of europe. >> anita, that meeting is in brussels on thursday and friday. we also know president zelenskyy has agreed to participate in the g7 summit, which starts on sunday and stretches into next week. sends it back to you. >> anita: we'll be watching that, nate foy live in ukraine. >> john: new york city, a taxi crash, at least four pedestrians were hit on a sidewalk.

this is in manhattan, 1188 broadway, which is right about at 29th street. what seems to have happened, don't know exactly what the genesis was, it's an suv taxi as you can see, coming i guess southbound on broadway. somehow crossed over pedestrian and bicycle lanes on to the sidewalk and hit that building there. the driver is reportedly still on scene, police are talking to the driver. there is no indication at this point, it's very early in the investigation, that this was anything other than an accident. on occasion these things happen in new york city as you can imagine with the amount of traffic. we do not know the condition of the pedestrians that were hit by this taxi, but we will keep on watching this for you and give you the latest as soon as we get it. meantime, energy prices continuing to soar, putting the white house on defense. but it insists biden's trip to

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up 77% from kids 14 to 18 in the past year alone, according to a study released in april by the journal of american medical association. dr. marc siegel has more on this growing danger of fentanyl and the poisoning of america. this is so frightening. >> yes, it is, anita. the apparatus now killing our teens involves a trans national criminal organization including china, mexico, and social media, with our children as their victims. >> how does a vibrant healthy physically capable 17-year-old just no longer live. >> it's been more than a year since chris and laura found their 17-year-old son slumped over his desk inside their home near sacramento. >> chris just said our baby is gone. >> zach died of fentanyl poisoning in december 2020 after taking what he thought was a

single percocet pill. instead, turned out to be fentanyl, a synthetic opioid up to 100 times more powerful than morphine. >> there was no percocet in his system. >> a recent study finds fentanyl fatalities among 14 to 18 have skyrocketed every year. >> zach, straight a student, said to be a first time user who bought it on snapchat. fentanyl can be easily disguised as another drug. >> it is about poisoning, not overdose, the deception that's happening. >> apps like snapchat have faced heavy criticism by parents who say they are essentially an open market for the sale and purchase of drugs. in 2022, the drug enforcement agency seized more than 20 million counterfeit pills.

>> tiny crystals of salt. >> turned their grief into activism. >> we have to talk about the dangers our kids are exposed to. >> what about in our warning ar sharing the story we can save some of these other kids, we knew it's what zach would want us to do. >> the 22-year-old accused of selling zach the counterfeit pills is on criminal charges, including involuntary manslaughter. this is the last leg of the mexican-based criminal organization that is putting our teams at risk. the problem we must address is two-fold. one, addiction the pain killers are causing and two, criminal enterprise of lacing fake pills with fentanyl to cheaply create the high with desired deadly consequences occurring. shining a spotlight on these bogus pills is a big part of the solution, anita. >> dr. siegel, so brave of that family to speak out like this

and tell their story, the story of what happened to their son. but you know, as you mentioned in your report, these drugs are pouring over the border. they are coming in in children's backpacks, hidden in so many different ways, and unlike when we were kids, the kids now are buying these drugs on social media. so as a doctor, how do you talk to parents about how to police this kind of stuff? >> i tell parents to be on the lookout for changes in behavior. i want parents to have the conversation about social media. i want parents to know that it's not just china now, it's also india getting involved and i want parents to know there's another drug coming out called isonitazine, 20 times more powerful than fentanyl and one pill was enough to kill zach didier. it's not just pills after surgery and leading to addiction, this is for kids not addicted in the first place. very, very frightening, parents

have to be aware. >> such a minute amount that can kill someone. so again, if you were advising parents about, you know, the old nancy reagan adage, just say no, but you have to tell them to say no now because this, what happened to this teenager could happen to anybody. >> absolutely. and also a pill called narcan, available over-the-counter that has to be made more commonly available, and treatment programs and another thing, lastly with the pandemic, all tied to mental health problems in the country and enormous problem with anxiety and depression, schools being closed ties together with substance abuse. parents, teachers, physicians, all have to be involved. >> anita: all ties back to that. thank you. >> john: lia thomas will not be able to compete against biological women in

international events. world swimming governing body voted to ban transgender athletes who have gone through puberty. and also an open category to compete against each other. jeff. >> international swimming federation, or fina, only those who transition before age 12 can compete in events. spokesperson says the decision is not meant to encourage anyone to transition by a certain age, but that if someone transitions after the start of puberty, the federation believes that person has an unfair advantage. riley gains, a college swimmer two competed against thomas, believes it is a bold first step in the right direction. >> it was very obvious to me, it's obvious to my competitors having a biological male from someone ranked in the 400s to

winning a national championship, it does not add up and does not take common sense. >> critics call it discriminatory, and unscientific, and some believe it will lead to the policing of all women's bodies in sports. others say it could impact how states craft their own policies when it comes to high school sports. >> the fact this policy may affect a 14-year-old kid in high school, that makes me sad. >> we should point out currently no transgender women competing in international elite levels of swimming. the international swimming federation is going to spend the next six months to figure out the best way to set up the new open competition category. john. >> john: emotions clearly run high with this, a broad range of opinion as well. megan rapinoe does not believe it's a problem, and caitlyn

jenner saying it's not a huge problem because there are not a lot of transgender males competing in this level of sports but at some point it could become a problem. >> yeah, and there's actually even a new poll out by the washington post and university of maryland saying only three in ten americans really feel strongly that transgender women should be able to compete in those particular sports. so we'll see how it goes. >> john: jeff paul for us with the latest on that. thank you so much. and there is this idea, too, if you transition after age 12, you can't compete in sports. will that push people to transition at a younger age? recommendations for transition are minimum age of 14. so it's probably just fina saying look, a lot of kids begin puberty at age 12. >> anita: and interesting to hear caitlyn jenner, and nobody

knows better than her, right. >> john: and we talked to her about that a few weeks ago, just right after -- before she became a contributor. i said do you, even at your age now, feel like you are stronger than the average woman athlete, she talked about going out and playing golf. she can still drive the golf ball 280 yards. so yeah, definitely feel stronger than most other female athletes my age would be. >> anita: don't want to compete against her in golf. >> john: no, a better game than i do. >> anita: the white house on defense over the economic crisis plaguing the president as he gets ready to head to saudi arabia, a trip they insist is not a desperate attempt to bring down energy costs. james freeman tackles that, plus tom homan on reports the feds plan to bus migrants into u.s. cities and towns.

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>> john: new at two clg:00. >> banning transgender athletes like lia thomas from competing. >> anita: fired up on both sides of the debate. talk to a gold medallist fighting for women since she was the youngest member of the u.s. olympic team. donna de varona will join us live. >> john: and welcome back as "america reports" rolls into a second hour. >> anita: thanks for having me,

sandra smith is on assignment today. we will dig into what the ban on transgender athletes could mean well beyond the pool. but begin with the economy. americans drowning in high prices and a white house playing defense. it is a fox news alert. >> john: biden officials trying to put their own spin on soaring costs as americans face sky high prices at every turn. thanks to decades high inflation and gas prices still hovering near $5 a gallon nationwide, and despite economists warning a recession is likely on the horizon, the white house says not so fast. >> i don't think a recession is at all inevitable. >> you just have to look around the world to recognize the two principal drivers are the pandemic and putin. >> inflation is happening globally. recession is not inevitable. >> anita: different tune from

one of the top economic minds under president obama and clinton. >> well, i wouldn't presume to be able to judge the timing. the dominant probability would be that by the end of next year we would be seeing a recession in the american economy. >> john: now just the crisis pressuring the white house, but how the administration is dealing with it, specifically the president's planned trip to saudi arabia next month, a nation he not long ago promised to treat as a pariah. >> president biden is going to lie to saudi arabia, 5700 miles to beg them to produce more oil. >> things you cannot do as a world leader. you are entitled to your own views but you cannot say one thing and not do it. >> saudis are not going to do it, why should the saudis do us a favor? >> anita: right, let's get right to it. jacqui heinrich live on the north lawn and jacqui, the white

house is defending the trip big time. >> jacqui: they sure are, anita, and the whole recession discussion. just yesterday morning president obama's former treasury secretary larry summers was pretty clear, all signs point to a likely recession with the dominant probability as he put it laying out that americans would most likely see this happening by the end of next year, something other economists have also been repeating. if you ask president biden about it, you'll get a different answer. he claims he got a different answer from larry summers himself this morning. >> not the majority of them are saying that, come on, don't make things up, ok, now you sound like a republican politician. i'm joking, that was a joke. but you will a kidding aside, no, i don't think it is. i was talking to larry summers this morning and there's nothing in that about a recession. >> jacqui: nerves whether the fed will be able to cool inflation without triggering a

recession has the white house considering sending gas rebate cards to americans and a possible gas tax holiday at the pump. he's not getting too close to a meeting, even though other supply chain crisis he met with retailers and logistics companies. in that case, the work was done. one meeting he is taking is a face-to-face with the saudi crown prince next month. >> i think he will meet with the saudi crown prince. he has asked for all suppliers and the globe to increase production, that includes opec, and our domestic oil and gas producers. asking for an increase like other leaders around the globe -- >> one-on-one meeting. >> my understanding he will be meeting. >> jacqui: administration officials have repeatedly acknowledged the president will push for more oil production in thinks face-to-face saudi crown

prince, even as the prince frames the trip as a larger meeting the prince is a part of. >> anita: just coincidence, right? and gas rebate cards for all americans, an idea, too. >> jacqui: by the end of the week. >> anita: thank you, jacqui. john. >> john: james freeman, let's play off this about face by the white house, james, in terms of whether or not the president is going to meet with the crown prince of saudi arabia, let's play what president biden said last week and then reiterate what jennifer said yesterday. >> i'm not going to meet with m.p.s., i'm going to an international meeting. >> i think he will meet with the saudi crown prince. he has asked for all suppliers around the globe to increase

production, that includes opec. >> john: so there you go. jennifer granholm saying i think he will meet with m.b.s., reinforces the idea the president, beset by the huge gas prices and facing a red tsunami is putting his tin cup in his hand and saying please, sir, can i have some more oil. >> yeah, and partly it's a concession to reality after his campaign rhetoric on the regional security side. he realizes that it's a rough neighborhood and we have to deal with the saudi dictatorship. but on the energy side, yes, he wants gas prices to go down, but he doesn't want to acknowledge meeting with the crown prince leading this country, president biden called a pariah, and also doesn't want to encourage long-term domestic u.s. production because of the climate agenda. let's deal with the short-term problem with gas prices but

let's not really do anything to change the supply situation in the u.s. >> anita: yeah, i mean, it seems to me, james, the president is in a pickle here, right. he started out his presidency as saying he wanted to -- actually during his campaign he pledged to ban fossil fuels. then he banned or struck down the keystone xl pipeline and his administration has been very unfriendly to the oil industry ever since. now he's going to saudi arabia when there could be more domestic production here. >> and just stop discouraging domestic production, even just recently the president attacking refiners in this country, saying their profits are too high, because of a hostile federal government. it is very hard to build a new refinery in the u.s. according toed administration, we have not built one with major capacity with significant downstream capacity since the

1970s, so he doesn't really have to travel all that way. i agree with him, and i agree with his treasury secretary that a recession is not inevitable, but if he wants to avoid it, he needs to start encouraging growth here in the u.s., and by the way, all things being equal, saudi arabia is a dictatorship. if you are going to have oil wealth accumulate somewhere, the people who run the pga say it may be better to have the wealth accumulate in the u.s. and not saudi arabia. >> john: the idea of weaning the world off of fossil fuel is something we have to do at some point, james, because decades down the road there probably won't be anymore. but appears to be a fundamental disconnect in the idea of shifting to the climate idea and green energy, you cannot run airplanes on wind mills or solar power and the greens refuse the

nuclear, and not mining rare earth minerals in alaska on federal lands because the environmentallists don't want us to do it, about you how do you build the batteries? talking all this ideology but the practicality behind it is not there. >> yeah, and i would add other questions. even if you sort of worship the u.n. intergovernmental panel on climate change and even if you buy their projections, anywhere in that range it's not entirely clear that the answer is to impose huge costs on our economy now as opposed to letting it grow and developing the technology that will probably allow us to adapt to whatever the future holds more easily, more cheaply, more efficiently. so, i think there are a lot of questions. but that, what you spoke of, that message on the political

left, which now controls washington, that oil is going away long-term has a lot to do with why investors are reluctant to commit to the you state. part is the boom and bust nature of the industry, they want companies to be disciplined with their capital but this is a big problem if we are hoping to get more supply and reduce gas prices over the long-term. >> anita: james, quickly, what do you expect to come out of the meeting with president biden and the saudi prince? >> i'm a little worried about what we don't hear about coming out of the meeting because as you said, or as i'm sorry, one of the clips earlier noted, the price may be high that the crown prince is asking mr. biden. mr. biden has treated him very badly, some would say justifiably so, but he's called this a pariah state. they have not wanted to boost production the way the president wants.

what exactly is the crown prince going to ask for in return for increased production. i think that's got to be a concern for the president. i know he cares about human rights and i'm not sure we are going to get the answer right away after that meeting. >> john: i suspect the readout of the meeting between the president and the crown prince may be a little thin. we'll see. >> could be. >> john: james, always good to see you. >> anita: thank you, james. >> john: it will be interesting. i'm sure the saudis won't say anything, and then the national security council will probably have like a two-sentence blurb. they talked about regional security and you know, civil war in yemen, etc., etc., oh, and maybe something about energy as well. maintaining a supply of energy. >> anita: a page with a lot of black ink on it. >> john: they don't typically redact them, just don't put the stuff in. >> anita: see what happens.

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>> john: deadly weekends of shootings across the united states, a teenager is dead, a police officer shot and two others were hurt in a shooting at a juneteenth concert in washington, d.c. late sunday. police found multiple illegal guns at the scene.

in new york, a mass shooting in harlem killed one person, injured at least eight others. police are still looking for suspects and a motive in that shooting. >> we have team coverage from coast to coast. dan springer on the blowback against soft on crime prosecutors, and the judges. but first, to alexis mcadams live in new york city. alexis. >> hi, a very violent weekend, including here in new york city. we are learning from the nypd and family members of the 21-year-old who lost his life, darius lee, a star basketball player in texas, he was home for the summer, just to spend time with his family when he was murdered in east harlem. this is a photo of lee, the family continues to grieve here in new york. just releasing his identity hours after he was gunned down. lee was a senior forward for houston baptist university, his family tells me he was a good kid, hard working and he was talented. houston baptist university says

lee was on track to graduate in december. the 21-year-old grew up in new york city and played high school basketball out in the bronx. lee was out at this gathering when someone opened fire, shots ringing out just before 1:00 this morning. if you look there, you can see it was chaotic there, lots of police and people. at least nine people were shot. lee lost his life at a local hospital. >> he was doing a phenomenal job in school, he was doing a phenomenal job on the basketball court. there's been a number of shootings throughout the city. i'm sick of the violence as a clergyman. >> this morning the nypd releasing the photo of a handgun found at the crime scene. it was found in the grass nearby. overall crime in new york city is up by nearly 40% as police are trying to find the gunman in this case. >> embolden individuals responsible for this are exactly who our officers are battling every day to make our city safe.

and while we are making some headway against violence, we have a lot of work to do. >> before this mass shooting, investigators were looking into several other incidents. nearly a dozen other shootings this weekend alone. no one is in custody for the death of darius lee. his family is asking anyone with information to give police a call. >> anita: just months away from graduation, so sad for his family. thank you for bringing us his story. >> john: now to the prosecutors and judges as crime soars, that includes seattle, a judge gave a gang member an incredibly light sentence despite him firing into a crowd of people. dan. >> john, the nine-year sentence is considered exceptionally low, it's four years below mandatory minimum under the statutory here, and six years less than

what the prosecutors were asking for and in handing down the sentence the judge seemed to be more upset with society than the gunman who happened to be black and was in a gang. >> the struggle in your community with gangs and gun violence matters to me. and our entire community shares responsibility for that struggle. >> the same judge allowed two teenagers charged with take over armed robberies, one which a store owner was pistol whipped to home detention. they cut off their monitoring, and robbed a pot shop and killed another. >> we have a major crime problem and what the left proposes is more social experimentation that we have tried before and results in death and destruction.

>> also in seattle, a homeless man broke into a house, was not even required to post bail. a neighbor helped subdue the suspect. he was released on his own recognizance. a big push toward bail reform and relaxed sentencing guidelines and getting sympathetic judges elected or appointed but now a counter effort in places like harris county, texas, the d.a. there happens to be a democrat, is trying to encourage her prosecuting attorneys to run for election, trying to get more liberal-minded judges out of office and getting her prosecutors in place there. see if it works in the fall, we know there is a blowback along the electorate in general on these crime issues, john. >> john: a lot of people are worried about progressive

policies. dan, thank you. republican lawmakers in texas demanding answers from the department of homeland security over a reported plan to bust migrants from overwhelmed border communities and bring them into cities and towns, further inland from the border. >> anita: lawmakers warning many towns do not have the resources. so let's bring in tom homan, former acting i.c.e. director, a senior fellow at the immigration reform law institute and a fox news contributor. tom, it is great to have you here with us today. always good to get your insight on this particular subject. and so now we have these illegal immigrants coming in, going to towns inside the country. a lot of them don't speak fluent english, they'll have problems accessing resources. these cities are already dealing with homeless issues. isn't this just going to make the problem worse? >> it's going to make the problem worse because they are creating an efficiency that you are not going to be in detention

very long, not in a border patrol facility, we'll get you into the final destination quicker, only going to bring more. all these things the department is doing and talking about this for years. they send resources to the southwest border, process and release quickly. why? when fox broke the story on the haitian, 15,000 haitians under the bridge, a bad story for the administration. they are trying to manage the optics of the crisis. the secretary says it's not a cries. separate them, spread it out so no overcrowding, nothing to see here. the administration has not done one thing. i wish the lawmakers would ask what is the strategy, how are you going to enforce the law? or what the strategy s g what's the long-term plan? >> john: when d.h.s. puts the illegal migrants, on a bus and sends them elsewhere through texas or california or arizona, maybe points north of that, what

kind of assessment do they do on what the impact will be to that community before they drive that bus in that direction? >> great question. bill broke a story a couple weeks ago. such a hurry to release people. released a male alien, and he was gone two days, and he was hot. and took two months to get him. and the 800,000 got-aways, 800 recorded, because they are on camera or drone traffic. we have videos of them. border patrol could not respond. arrested people from 161 different countries, some sponsor terrorism. terrorists don't want to be arrested. how many of the 800,000 came into this country and suspected terrorist will do us harm. and those in custody, vetting is not properly done and releasing

people with positive hits. >> anita: there is not time to do the proper vetting. bring up some numbers, talking about, you are mentioning all the numbers, let's take a look at the numbers from may, which i believe are record breaking numbers, if we can put that up on the screen. 239,416, and 2022, the numbers are unbelievable. how does it stop? >> tom: you have to enforce the law. turn on the trump policies. the people can say what they want about president trump, called it inhumane, but immigration was down to a 40-year low. the border was locked down and you save lives. 2.9 million encounters, that's 3.7 million people crossing the border. that is beyond anything i could imagine. it's historic numbers, right.

but biden says his policies are humane. i'll argue, record number of migrants have died in the first year of joe biden, more than any year i can remember, over 100,000 americans have died from the drugs across the border, 70% of the border patrol agents are no longer online. cartels are making billions. sex trafficking women and children are sky high. his policy is inhumane. the trump policies were not only humane, they saved lives and protected sovereignty. arrested an average of three people on the terrorist watch list. joe biden has had 50, 50 known expected terrorists in a year and a half. >> john: you mentioned members of congress asking mayorkas, and one sent a letter asking things. among the things he said, he represents san angelo, a town north of san antonio, he said san angelo is a welcoming community but the locality has not volunteered for this mission nor responsible for the burdens

of the border crisis. the situation is a direct result of the d.h.s. short sighted policies that encourage more illegal immigration. and congressman pfluger wants to know, what is d.h.s. process to notify the local communities that illegal immigrants are being shipped there? in your experience, what is the notification? >> there is no notification, that's why they are flying people in the middle of the night. trying to hide what they are doing. again, they are trying to spread out this crisis across the country so it does not appear to be a crisis. and no overcrowding, nothing to see here. every border is a border state. i don't care if you are new york, chicago or nebraska, every state is a border state because you are going to get a large share of those in the country illegally. 10% criminals, but the biggest issue is the fentanyl. that's going in all 50 states. ms13 is in 48 states. >> you are the mayor of san

angelo, a bus, a couple busses of people show up on your doorstep. you have not been told they are coming. >> no, you have not. >> anita: well, the cities are on notice now. >> again, i hope these congress stand up, look, day one they take congress back, impeach mayorkas, he has ignored the oath he took, made the country less safe, secretary of homeland insecurity at this point, i don't care what your opinion is on illegal immigration, terrorists are crossed border, we know that. fentanyl is crossing the border, killing over 100,000 americans. something needs to be done. >> john: thank for coming in. >> anita: chaos at airports across the country after airlines cancel thousands of flights. now the biden administration says it could take action. >> john: the big decision in the

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>> john: moments away on "america reports," big move in the swimming world and what it means for all of women sports. olympic gold medallist donna de varona is ready to go with her thoughts on all this. to her in a second. first, a frustrating stretch for fliers and may just be the beginning. one of those unhappy travelers, transportation secretary pete buttigieg. jeff flock, live at philadelphia international airport. fly, drive.

>> that's what the transportation secretary had to do, he got a flight canceled last week. now the government says time to do something about it. latest cancellation and delay numbers up for you, john. they continue into today, it was a terrible weekend. we are up to 336 cancellations today, even though not a lot of weather out there and the number says since 1940, is over 2,000, but that ain't nothing compared to this weekend. 19,000 delays and cancellations from thursday to sunday. the government saying it wants the airlines to stress test its summer schedules, to hire more customer service representatives, the airlines don't do better, they are going to fine them. they are going to watch until the 4th of july. delta, the pilots with the open letter to passengers saying hey,

this ain't our fault. we have been working on days off, flying record amount of overtime and by this fall, more overtime in 2022 than the years of 201 and 2019 combined. delta shooting back with this message statement to fox today, a variety of factors continue to impact our operations including challenges with air traffic control, weather, and unscheduled absences in some work groups. so, back at you, pilots. it's not pretty out there, john. and as you report, i expect it's not going to get a whole lot better and if the transportation secretary cannot get where he needs to go, what chance do we have. >> john: i had to go to cleveland last week and thought a 6-hour drive. >> sorry to hear that. >> john: cleveland is a lovely place, jeff. and i thought to myself, 6 hour drive, or god knows if i will get there if i fly. so got in the car and drove.

>> even with the high gas prices. >> john: cost almost as much as a plane ticket, but pete buttigieg in the car, four wheels. jeff flock, good to see you. thank you, jeff. >> thank you, john. >> anita: swimming's international governing body a blow to transgender swimmers, a policy will require them to have completeded transition by age 12 to take part in women events. >> john: fina had some strong words, the governing body for global swimming, unfairness, and risks allowing males through puberty, they said without eligibility standards on biological sex traits, unlikely

to see them on podiums and championship situations and sports with collisions and projectiles, a greater risk for injury. so the projections are saying if a lot of males who have transitioned to women get involved in sports at this level, there won't be any biological women who are getting medals anymore. do you agree? >> well, i think they took the extreme position on that. i'm sure, you know, there is a thought that there is not that many transgender women now competing on elite level but of course lia thomas put a spotlight on that and i have known caitlyn jenner for years and knew caitlyn when caitlyn competed in 1976 as bruce jenner and i think we should listen to what caitlyn has to say about sex link advantages but when you think about swimming, you think up and down the pool.

but fina also overseas water polo, a game of strength and power, and force, you are talking about diving, you are talking about synchronized swimming, you are talking about marathon swimming. but i'm very proud of fina for spending months and months and months talking to researchers, looking at science-based peer review research on the impact of puberty on male bodies and what impact that would have if you are trying to mitigate your high testosterone and if you could do that. they consulted olympians, researchers, coaches, and they are the second, the world of athletics has a policy to step up and come up with a policy. you know, many listeners probably did not watch the 1976 olympics but during those olympics when i worked for abc and called the races i watched the east german swimmers who had

been pumped with testosterone destroy our women's team and the press said our athletes were spoiled and many of those women are still suffering from having to compete in an uneven playing field. and as we now celebrate 50 years of title ix, the promise of title ix has not been realized. we lose out as women over a billion dollars of support in our institutions in the way of scholarships, coaching, accommodation and recruiting dollars. so, the promise of title nine not here and now we have another debate. my feeling is every kid should have sports, we don't have enough opportunities for our kids in schools, and there are sports where there is no barrier to entry. but swimming has been very definitive in what they have done and taken their time and i'm very proud of them. >> anita: donna, it's anita vogel here. the response from athletes across the border. i want to read something for you, a response from megan

rapinoe, from soccer, she says show me the evidence that trans women are taking everyone's scholarships, dominating in every sport, taking every title, i'm sorry, it's not happening. i have confidence we can figure it out, and start at the opposite and it's cruel and frankly just disgusting. keep in mind in 2017 her soccer team lost a scrimmage to a group of 15-year-old boys, it was a very informal game, but they lost. what does that say? >> well, i applaud megan for her passion and her humanity. she's very much a part of the lgbtq community, and she has a right to her opinion. but i will question, and i will call her out on the fact that no one has lost a podium or opportunity. lia thomas in leaving the men's team and she did follow the rules, she followed policy, left

an open spot that could have been filled but couldn't, got on the women's team and did not just displace one varsity swimmer since the age of ten trained all her life, but displaced three swimmers from competing and getting on the bus to go to the ivy league championships. when you are talking about elite sports, you are talking about numbers and opportunities and there are very few and you work a lifetime for that. so as caitlyn has said about that situation, it was unfair to those swimmers, and so i will call out megan on that. i really respect her and i respect her ability to have freedom of speech and have her own opinion. >> john: donna, just before we go, let's play what caitlyn jenner said earlier today on "outnumbered" in response to megan rapinoe. >> the reason they are not dominating in sports like that one person was saying, there is not enough of them. there's only a few of them.

we only know of one right now, lia thomas. i'm sure there are some others. but it's just such a small, small, small group of people in our country that deal with trans issues. >> john: so small group of people, it may never be more than a small group of people but the idea is, particularly when it comes to thomas and her physical stature, an unfair advantage. see where it goes and see if it spreads to other sports as well. donna de varona. >> anita: your food bill could be taking a bigger bite out of the budget. it all starts at the farm. we are going to take you there next. 's refreshing their italians. like the new supreme meats, topped high with new italian-style capicola. that's one handsome italian. uh... thanks. not you, garoppolo! ♪♪ subway keeps refreshing and refreshing and refres- hi, i'm william devane.

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>> john: after months of fighting, analysts say the war in ukraine might by reaching a tipping point. bring in retired general keith kellogg, back at the touch screen. the way things stand as of yesterday. a tremendous amount of fighting here in the area of this town,

and ukraine is screaming we need more weapons, need more weapons, and the united states says we'll get you more but they are not arriving. >> it's perplexing to me, disappointing. the one system they have been asking for, zelenskyy for the last month and a half is the multiple launch rocket system. >> john: we just happen to have a photo of that. this is the m270, multiple rocket launch. >> that's the varsity version and we developed this in assault breaker, designed for one thing, to beat the soviet union in the warsaw pact. we knew we could beat them with this precision and we did. and we had 89 systems in the first gulf war and broke the back of the iraqi military when we used them. we are given right now, the united states is giving the ukrainians seven of the wheeled systems, only carry six rockets per. >> john: u.k. will give them three, germany three, still only

six and you said you had 89 in the first gulf war. >> and brigade of these in germany, the 41st brigade. i don't know why we didn't give enough systems like this. this will defeat the russians. this is better than any system the russians have got, they feared the system and putin has said that more than once. >> john: the original map where we were a second ago. if you put in the m.r.l.s. system, where could you stage it? >> minimum rage, 45 miles over 100 miles out there, and put it up here near this fight over here, and you can range them out there and start killing them. that's what they want to do. once they take that area, they are going to the southwest as well. right now, attrition fight, ukrainians are losing this fight. zelenskyy is set to lose 100 a day, 400 wounded a day, they cannot keep that up. attrition fight is going to the russians because of one thing,

artillery. >> john: if you were to put the m270 systems in here and fire them that way, how many would you need and what kind of damage could you do? >> they asked for 80. if you give them 80 they could break their back, the sheer volume of power. we had 89 in the gulf, 1,000 rockets at one time and you can reload pretty fast with the 12 systems on the track vehicle. overwhelming number of fighters. you totally destroy grid scores. >> john: i want to zoom in here with this map as well and the area of the heaviest fighting. this is sievierodonetsk, a tremendous amount of fighting for weeks, the goal of the russians is link these two together, southwest, cover this all in red and then say we have the entire donbas region. but this fight has been going on for weeks. why is it taking the russians so

long and what could ukraine do if it had the right weapons to turn that back? >> the right weapon is the m.l.s. it can range over into here and defeat -- >> yellow there. >> and defeat the russian artillery, and you could stage it back here. it does not have to be staged in close. because you have a minimum of 45 miles you can range the system to kill the russians and the russian artillery. you do that, bloody them hard enough. right now putin does not care about losses. >> john: ultimately, the wider map here. do you have any doubt that if ukraine doesn't get the right weapons russia will eventually fill in this area here, they'll sit back, they'll regroup, then they'll add this section in here and then in the maybe months, even years ahead, start to make this move again. >> no doubt they want to make ukraine a rump state. they take mykolaiv, and a river

they have to cross, and take odesa. that makes ukraine a rump state, no longer has ports out there. putin will do that until you bloody them enough and cannot sustain any longer. i'll give donald trump credit, he understood that when he went against anybody, including the russians. >> john: how much time before this happens? >> they could stall it out indefinitely. by the time it takes to refit r -- rearm by the time he gets to odesa. >> anita: a long road ahead. farmers struggling as the cost of diesel keeps rising. analysts warn the food bill will get bigger. and lydia, looking nice on the farm out there, an hour out of new york city. >> thank you, anita.

the prices at the grocery store right now, they are running about 12% higher than just a year ago, and a lot of that increase, it's driven by the cost of gas. the transportation costs that it takes to get the food to the store and to you. the average price for a gallon of gas now stands at $4.98. if we take a look at diesel, those prices are higher. 5.81 on average today across the country. that's 80% higher than last year, and that cost hurts farmers in particular. imagine having to fill up one of these tractors just behind me. based on the average diesel price. last year, it would have cost around 430 bucks. now, much closer to $780. and that's just to fill up one time for one day's worth of work. >> our biggest problem is our costs have doubled and they went up so fast and so quickly that our budget, we could not budget

it in that fast. my fuel prices have doubled since last year. >> and now commodity prices like corn and grain, they are much higher now because of all these increased costs, but the farmers say because their costs have increased, too, although they may be getting paid more for grain and corn like this farm, their costs are eating into their profits. this farmer here says he's worried about whether he's going to break even this year. anita. >> anita: 5.81 a gallon for diesel, no wonder he's worried. thank you, lydia. >> john: 5.81 is cheap compared to some places. well, we are going into overtime in alabama's republican senate primary. today is the final full day of campaigning before voters decide who will be the g.o.p. pick.

alexandria -- live. >> recently earned the endorsement of president trump and the candidate who recently lost it. tomorrow voters will return to the polls here in alabama, you have to have over 50% of the vote. katie brit with 45% and mo brooks got 29%. so brit after coming out on top. >> our campaign has taken off because people know that i am the best to fight for our christian conservative values. they know that i am the best leader to move us forward with the america first agenda. >> a little bit more than a week ago, another boost came, earned the endorsement of former president trump who pulled his endorsement from her opponent, mo brooks, felt he was not a close ally. but he says he is still maga mo. >> i believe every endorsement

matters and certainly president trump's endorsement is a bonus. at the same time, the people of alabama, they are conservative, particularly the republican primary and looking at the difference in records. >> brooks has also lagged behind brit when it couldms to out of state funding. how that will impact voters tomorrow. >> anita: playing music festivals to performing, one of the best at the national symphony orchestra is making a difference through music. kevin cork with more on this. kevin. >> afternoon, anita. as millions of americans celebrate juneteenth, for those unfamiliar, a fairly new federal holiday marking the freedom of american slaves in texas in 1965, introduce a man whose own ideas of freedom center around

classical music. javon gilliam, he grew up in the great state of indiana and a great interest in music. he played several instruments and for what it's worth, loved earth, wind and fire. and world renowned and unique talent dedicated to his craft and to spreading the love of music one note at a time. >> my dad had me in music when i was a little kid to keep me safe, to keep me away from some of the other stuff that was around when i was growing up and i think it stuck. >> for me, it's about paying it forward, making sure people that look like me and you have the opportunities they might not have known they had otherwise. >> absolutely love the kids photos there. by the way, he has lived and performed internationally, spent more than a decade here in washington at the n.s.o. he's a husband, a father, a small business owner and has his own timpani sticks, his own

brand. >> who doesn't love earth wind and fire. >> that's right. >> my favorite album when i was 18 years old. >> anita: earth, wind and fire? i would not have guessed that of you, john. >> john: oh, absolutely. nice outfit today, smoking. good to see you today. thank you for joining us. i'm john roberts. >> anita: >> martha: thanks, john and anita. i'm martha maccallum. is as you might have seen, president biden took a bit of a tumble on his bike over the weekend. could have happened to anybody. then he joked about it before he launched into his discussion saying that recession may or may not come. talking up a new future of green energy. watch this just happening a short time ago. >> any of you guys ride bike? they have this thing that you put your