pelosi but maybe she didn't have a chance to read the whole thing. >> bill: who is the leaker? how have they handled this on the inside? there was a lot of thought they would try to figure out the leaked case first before they put out a substantial case ruling on abortion. maybe that is or is not the case. we don't know. this is a critical time for these nine justices in the history. >> dana: so much more to come today. coverage continues. harris faulkner is up next. >> we continue our breaking news coverage here on fox news. historic decision from the u.s. supreme court overturned roe v. wade. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus". it's a monumental ruling from a deeply divided supreme court eliminating the constitutional right to an abortion. the split ruling also upholds mississippi's ban on abortions after 15 weeks and the state's law, the one that triggered the legal battle at the highest

court in our land in the first place. the decision is set to have major legal political, social and cultural fallout. shannon bream, chief legal correspondent, is with us now. as we get going here and i was just reading about this. there are states now that are already starting to trigger their bans against abortion. we saw this coming. i would like to start there and explain how that happens expeditiously. >> a number of these states planned ahead and that's on both ends of the spectrum on the issue of abortion rights. sometimes they will restrict everything before a heartbeat and exceptions or not. those state laws are ready to kick in. some passed in anticipation of what would happen potentially today. there are other states on the other end of the spectrum. i cited colorado as one of these states where they passed laws wanting to extend abortion

rights to women. basicically there you can get an abortion up to the end of your pregnancy. the laws have already been passed and now what w this decision official not a leaked document, votes are recorded. court handed it out. the official decision. those state laws will begin to kick in. >> harris: also what's coming clear now and reading this crossing wires and other news sources, shannon, is that there are states out there that will be willing to pay your travel in order for you to go from a place now that is banning abortion after this high ruling, the things you said were set into place already in anticipation of what could happen today, and they will pay for travel and lodging and so on and so forth. what details do you know about that? >> there have been a number of states who said they would set up justice funds, reproductive justice funds. a number of employers have said

we'll add it to our benefits package. if you work for our company and live in a state where it is restricted to have an abortion and need to travel out of state it will become part of the employment benefits package as well. we'll see public sector and private sector as well. those have already been put into place and i would see those will be activated and available for people to travel across state lines and there are certainly no ban on doing that. >> harris: what kind of reaction are you seeing from people on the ground? we can hear the chanting. they are going to aid and abet abortion was a chant with signage coming down on one of the satellite feeds. talk to me about that reaction there. >> it was very loud leading up to the decision. there was a dj and music and both sides well respected. dancing, music, a lot of mega phones. and so immediately after the

decision came down and folks realized it would be like the leaked opinion, to see the pro-life folks were hugging and crying and happy tears for them. on the other side not an unexpected result for the pro-choice advocates, clearly disappointed but very muted as the actual decision started to sink in. you remember we have all covered this, jane's revenge the group called for a night of rage. they have openly put on their website calling for open season on pregnancy centers and faith-based places that differ from them. they find joy in attacking and they will do even more than what we've seen before. it may be tougher to clean up than some fires and vandalism and graffiti. there are very threats and real worse among folks with the next few hours and weeks as well. >> harris: the point you made about the longevity of this sort of thing we've seen it in

this country and always scratch our heads as to how we don't get out in front of this. the summer of 2020 was very painful for cities across the country. and no matter what it is, peaceful protesting always allowed, always a constitutional right. however, when you damage, when you hurt, when you threaten, when you kill, not and so we have to stay ahead of whatever could be coming down the pike and pray it is peaceful. before i quickly let you go, i did want to ask you about how it works now with some of these states. i want to revisit that. i have the list. kentucky, they have a mechanism that goes into effect immediately without further action being required. louisiana goes into effect immediately without further action, south dakota also, and then bans that go into effect 30 days after if roe is overturned. that has happened. idaho, tennessee, texas. any kind of notification that you are getting? any word of who will go first and who will go fast?

>> yeah, some of these states set a specific date say august 1 or july 30th saying we would have this opinion now and know what we were dealing with. they put trigger dates in. some say immediately. we have seen in a number of states who felt it was going this way after the leak a few weeks ago a number of clinics in the state have closed. in mississippi this was based on the 15-week ban after that. i think it had one remaining clinic there. we have already since that leak seen a number of clinics in states across the country say we won't survive in this state. now we think what the court will do. a number of clinics have closed up in anticipation of what we'll see. >> harris: that's really interesting. again out ahead of this as you said with other states anticipating just looking at their laws in general. shannon bream, we'll revisit this with you and appreciate your expertise as always. thank you. i want to get to raymond arroyo, fox news contributor. yours was one of the first tweets i saw cross.

just in terms of the cases this involved. i want to get deep into that so we understand. we hear the names dobbs, we hear those things but explain it to us, please. >> this is a 15-week limitation on abortion in mississippi. that's all the court was considering. the lower courts had raised the issue of roe which was the underlying right that the supreme court had created back in 1972 to permit abortion. and those lower courts were questioning the validity of roe itself. and the legal reasoning. as shannon mentioned earlier, ruth bader ginsburg herself questioning that reasoning as well. it was pretty thin and what has been revealed today is this court realized looking back at the precedent that went before and the constitution itself, that roe v. wade was simply not well reasoned and not found in the constitution. a huge, historic day, harris.

a victory in some ways for those who over the last 50 years largely women we're seeing some standing in front of the supreme court. largely women who were told be quiet. the life of the unborn has no place-in-law, shut up. those women erected crisis pregnancy centers served mothers and women in crisis pregnancies and wouldn't let the issue go away. in part it is their victory today as well. >> harris: we often talk politics. i want to lean hard on your legal acumen now. in recent days and weeks we've seen those very pregnancy centers and churches that you are talking about under threat. and what can be done now to protect places going forward? because there could be -- we pray there won't be, but there could be some sort of continued

retaliation. >> jane's revenge has posted placards saying the day this ruling is released and here it is upon us, that it is time to take it to the streets. so they are threatening, at least, assembly, maybe violence. they usually end up protesting with violence, defacing churches, firebombing these pregnancy centers, i'm astounded that the governor of new york just committed $35 million to protect abortion facilities but nothing to protect the crisis pregnancy centers that are actually being firebombed and attacked and defaced. we have to be fair. leaders, poll it i can khaliders have to be even handed. let the political process allow what states will allow for abortions. everyone's well-being has to be protected when it comes to women in these vulnerable situation. it's common sense and decency.

doesn't matter where you fall on the spectrum of this issue. women and caregivers should be protected and people going about their business trying to do a good deed to another. however they rationalize that should be protected as well. >> harris: i want to talk about the legalities of crossing state lines where you can get an abortion if women choose to do that. we have just gotten this from fox business. a list of companies -- you can imagine that states may want to offer a free doorstep to stand on while you wait inside to get into the clinic. now people have amazon up to $4,000 if you plan to travel for an abortion or other treatment. citigroup didn't tell us how much but they are on the list. yelp, uber state by state, lyft state by state. apple, bumble, match group.

levi straws, hewlett-packard. the list is rather lengthy. what is your reaction to that? legally what does that mean? >> well, legally look, you can pay for anybody to go to another state. if it's legal to do something in that state, that individual can presumably practice it and do it. the question is why are private companies, harris -- this shows you and we all should consider this and note it -- why are private companies getting in the business of helping facilitate a woman to abort her child when they do nothing and offering nothing to help a woman who might choose to keep that child? if you're pro-choice and i encourage everybody to be fully pro-choice, which means give women that option. and if they wish to bring their child to term and raise that child, why doesn't a private company with a means like amazon and other companies you mentioned, why don't they extend help to that mother in a crisis pregnancy?

>> harris: it's a great question. >> why not fund the pregnancy centers and show balance. don't fall on one side or another. it is always the tragedy. >> harris: if anybody learned their lesson with that it would be disney over the issues that have gone on with certain laws down in florida and getting involved in that in a way. i think we can put these numbers and things up on the screen now. companies who are reimbursing employees for travel for an abortion or other treatments. that is the list that i gave you. so what you are saying, too, are they willing to do that, are they willing to do that for people who might be seeking to keep a child or to have -- it says other treatments. so, you know, the journalist in me wants to call all of them. there is a long list and ask them which one of you will include pregnancy centers and churches and other types of support?

they didn't mention that part. >> you know, the pro-life movement, harris, very i think deliberately decided to focus their attention on the mothers, their well-being and the child they were carrying. and that was their way of being pro-life. supporting the mothers. it should be everybody's focus here to support these women particularly in a crisis moment. today i see the scene outside the supreme court. it also is a testament to brave jurisprudence in the face of enormous hostility. you talk about violence threatened now against these pro-life centers and crisis pregnancy centers. there was enormous pressure, enormous violence threatened against these justices and yet today they came together, they voted, and they took the hard stand they felt needed to be taken in the name of originalism, defending what the

constitution actually says and not an imagined right and that is another thing that also should be noted and another victory of this day. one of our institutions held firm, held firm in the face of enormous pressure and violence. >> harris: raymond, always great to have you as these things are breaking and a huge day at the supreme court, as many have said on this network this morning since less than an hour ago. we had anticipated that this day would come with a decision. now we know what the ruling is. we also know how closely it is worded to in some places and quoted from that leaked draft opinion. that kind of triggered all of this response before anything had been officially agreed to in the u.s. supreme court. raymond. thank you very much. i want to bring in republican congressman byron donalds from the state of florida. great to have you in "focus"

today and on this breaking news. first of all, i want to get your top line reaction to what is happening. and in your home state what the reaction is. >> this is a monumental decision in the united states and the correct decision. no matter how you feel about abortion the supreme court in 1973 created a constitutional right out of thin air. it was never in the bill of rights. something that was never contemplated and they decided they would settle the issue once and for all. what we've seen the issue was never settled. it has only exacerbated the politics in our country. this is probably the most divisive issue in our politics in the united states. so the court did the right thing by taking it away from the supreme court, which never should have took it in the first place and sengd it back to the states for state legislatures and governors to work with their citizens how to legislate this medical procedure. >> harris: i wanted to pull

politics into this and get your reaction to a former obama campaign manager and senior white house advisor. his tweet reads tyranny of the minority, devastating. one of the earliest to hit twitter. your reaction. >> he forgot how the supreme court works. their job is one and one alone, to interpret the constitutionality of laws anded ikts in the united states. even previous edicts from previous versions of the supreme court. they are not a political body and never intended to be. now that roe has been overturned as well as casey, it will be the responsibility of legislatures from california to florida to make determinations on how abortion is going to be governed. >> harris: what will happen in your state? >> i think from some conversations i've had they will move to probably taking it down from 15 weeks which is what the law is now to taking it down further. we'll see what the legislature

does there. >> harris: i'm becoming aware of a growing list of states that goes into effect immediately to ban abortion if roe is overturned. i was curious to know if that would be a plan in florida and you are saying no, but you will amend it in a way which shortens the timing. what is the reaction in your home state? >> so far from what i've heard from constituents a lot of people who are happy with the ruling. people who were pro-life advocates who wanted this ability to engage in politics and engage in the rule of law with respect to abortion. they view this as a major win. i'm quite sure people in my district who are abortion advocates who feel it is hurtful to them and their cause. what we have to understand people are allowed to voice their concerns about every issue that faces from a legal

and political perspective. the only one you haven't been able to engage is has been abortion until today. >> harris: we have more reaction. before i get to that, i want to say this. president biden is expected to deliver live remarks on this topic at 12:30 p.m. eastern. we will carry that live here on the fox news channel. hillary clinton with some reaction today, too. most americans she says believe the decision to have a child is one of the most sacred decisions there is and that such decisions should remain between patients and their doctors. today's supreme court opinion will live in infamy as a step backward for women's rights and human rights. congressman. >> hillary clinton is wrong but when is she not wrong? she has been wrong on so many different things. once again it is not a step back. i have agree with one point. the choice to have a child going through the process of having a child is the most intimate and sacred. what the supreme court did in 1973 was unconstitutional. they took away the political

ability for people in states to make their voices heard. they took away the ability of state legislatures to do their job which is legislate medical procedures. every other medical procedure is governed by state law and not by the supreme court or federal law. >> harris: i have read your bio, and knowing how hard your own mother worked and your own single mom and again this is more your story to tell than anybody as, but i did want to lean in on that because for very many people in positions like yours, there is always some sort of connection politically to some of the biggest decisions. did you ever think you would see this in your lifetime? >> honest with you, i never thought i would see this occur. i think it is a great thing for the country overall. i think also, the one thing that can't be lost in this. abortion is an issue that is incredibly personal and is also hard for women that have to go

through this procedure. it is a difficult decision. but the rule of law must always prevail. we cannot just be governed simply by raw emotions. we have to be governed by rule of law. that's what the supreme court did. it will put us in a more healthy and legal position in the united states going forward. >> harris: congressman donalds. good to have you today. alexandria hoff has the latest from the white house and we just got word that the president will speak to the nation about this u.s. supreme court ruling today at 12:30 p.m. eastern. what more have you learned? >> harris, at this point we're an hour into this and still nothing more has come from the white house aside from letting us know it will take place. the president will be delivering a very impassioned speech given some past remarks. you go back a month ago to early may and feels like longer than that at this point when the leaked opinion came out.

the president spoke to it once it was confirmed and he felt like this would be threatening other areas of people's private lives, basic human rights and he said this on may 3. let's listen. >> president biden: the idea we're letting the states make those decisions, would be a fundamental shift in what we've done. so it goes far beyond in my view if it becomes the law and if what is written is what remains, it goes far beyond the concerns of whether or not there is the right to choose. it goes to other basic rights. >> the president feels it is bigger than just the issue of abortion. this weekend he is preparing to head out to europe for the g-7 and nato summit providing a bit of a distraction back here at home. when it comes to something like protests we're seeing build right now the white house, they put out some interesting comments on it. first did not condemn the

doxxing of the supreme court justices in their homes and addresses. they said they do not condone violence. that become a very close reality when it came to justice kavanaugh and i want to read when it comes to past leadership. former president obama released a statement on twitter saying the supreme court not only reversed nearly 50 years of precedent it relegated the most personal decision someone can make to the whims of politicians and ideologues. that came from former president obama. former pence said life won and all 50 states would have a reaction which would lead to a banning of abortion throughout the country. right now we're waiting for the president to make this address. we expect it to be passionate and we'll get more from it. >> harris: before i let you go i'm sure you are seeing a lot

of what is coming in from congressmen and women and senators and their reaction. this from one of the squad saying i'm outraged for what this will mean for those who need abortion care, particularly those who will be most harmed by the decision, black and brown women, those who live in rural areas or have lower incomes and cannot afford to cross lines for care. i am wondering what you are seeing, too. also it says young people, lgbtq people and women in abusive relationships and it goes on. there are a lot of hot talking points that come into this that may be on the outside or the sidelines of the true conversation about abortion. >> i think you are exactly right. these are fringe issues. a lot of times it comes down to mid-term issues. something the president talked

about as well. he said that he anticipated a mini revolution to occur in states where more strict restrictions would be implemented as a cause of the decision like the one handed down today. so what we're seeing, i feel, is a lot of mid-term issues are getting grouped in with this. we'll see the fringe protests that will happen. when you talk about these protests, yeah, i think we'll see a lot of people from different communities who aren't impacted by abortion. >> harris: carrie severino president of the judicial crisis network is in "focus" now. this is something that you have been perched to talk about for quite some time and then we had a leak from the u.s. supreme court and things seemed to shift. your reaction to the huge news today. >> you are right. we've seen this opinion already. so that's what is so unusual such a major case coming down and you almost don't have to read the majority opinion. everyone has read it.

a few small additions addressing arguments in the dissent. clarifying some of the fear mongering saying this is about abortion not marriage, not about schools. no, it is about abortion. please don't pretend it will have an impact on every other case in our society. it simply doesn't. it is amazing to me to see this court that really finally we have a court where the majority of the justices recognize what the constitution says and they have the courage, even in the face of these outrageous displays, the violence and threats and intimidation. i think people thought with the leak that that would somehow mean there is a chance to show them you better be scared if you put this opinion out. they still did. they knew their job was to interpret the law and a wonderful day to know they had the courage to do that and now we have to make sure we stand behind them and defend and protect our justices when they're simply doing their jobs. >> harris: 100% on that. when groups showed up with fake

blood and baby dolls outside the conservative justice's home of amy coney barrett last week, it was on the heels of brett kavanaugh's attempted assassination who was in court this week and pleaded not guilty. there are trigger states as they call them. those states that will trigger bans immediately on this day. and the associated press is reporting that the state of missouri has acted quickly to enforce the state law banning abortion in the wake of that pivotal court ruling. i have the list of states and we have them on the map. it has already begun. your quick reaction to that and i have fast new polling. >> this is another feature of the leak in some ways. people who watched the arguments in december could see the states are prepared and understand and i think also the people in those states recognized what was going so now we'll get the opportunity

for our elected representatives at the state level and some cases federal level to address these issues and the people's voice will be heard. >> harris: from our fox business, fox news polling right now shows how maybe complicated this issue is across the country. we know we are divided on a lot of things but right now the fox news poll supreme court action roe v. wade let it stand, overturn it. 63% going into today. 27% to overturn it. 63 to let it stand and fox news polling on the question of abortion should be legal or illegal. 54% said illegal. 44 said legal. that was going into today. what are your thoughts on that? >> you can even see from the numbers you read they don't line up. people want to keep roe but don't want to see abortions legal in the same broadway that roe required. i think what this is going to give people the opportunity to do is say all right, it is not just about the huge one side pro or con about abortion.

most americans feel in the middle about it. most states will end up somewhere in the middle about that. people can hash out at the legislative level what are the compromises to make and states are ramping up their care and provision for women who are in those crisis pregnancy centers and they're opening their doors and ramping up their abilities to make sure they are there to help women who are carrying their pregnancies to term and make sure they have the ability and support to do so. >> harris: one of the things that has been argued about in recent weeks since the leak has been about what this really means for women and their abilities to get abortions should they still want them and how this doesn't necessarily wipe it all away as cross the land. can you get into that? >> that's a misconception that a lot of people have and has been advanced by democrat politicians. they aren't stopping to saying

everyone will outlaw contraception, no, there is -- i think there are zero states chomping at the bit to do that. it will be a different regime in a lot of different places. if you are in california and new york, you will probably -- if anything have more access to abortion now than before this decision. the states are pushing their laws in the other direction and speaking earlier about there are companies trying to subsidize abortion and only abortion in these situations as well. i think you are going to see a wide range. >> harris: the list i read was of companies. that came together quickly. everybody had a heads-up on what they were going to do because of that leaked draft. by the way, we haven't talked about what we ought to do to figure out what leaks and how to keep stuff from leaking out of the supreme court. that is very dangerous as well. amazon, citigroup, levy straws, hewlett-packard. a lot of companies saying travel for an abortion or other

treatments. we don't have a list of the other treatments. i didn't see pregnancy protection involved in that. maybe. >> getting a ride to pre-natal appointments if they want to keep the baby? it's not clear. >> harris: the corporations are already jumping on the band wagon of what they think will be needed from them from their employees who may want to get abortions. this was video i found a while ago and mentioned it on the hair. you could hear the chanting. daily caller reporter shot this video. very angry pro-choice supporters was within minutes after the ruling. just listen carefully. >> we will aid and abet abortion. we will aid and abet abortion. we will aid and abet abortion. we will aid and abet abortion.

>> harris: when you hear the words aid and abet abortion, what do they mean to you? >> well, aiding and abetting is a concept in terms of a crime. even if abortion is criminalized we will try to get as many people having abortions as possible. what we've seen in front of the court is a lot of shouting and violence. i was there a few days ago and it was loud, vulgar. i think it is unfortunate that it has been so hard to have a civil conversation about it rather than just shouting at each other. what i think is most concerning is people advocating for violence and we've seen that by some of these groups attacking pregnancy centers, attacking justice's homes and that really concerns me because there is -- i'm glad most of the protests right now are in front of the supreme court. talking about let's try to advocate for our position is a

great idea when it comes to advocating for violence or threats or behavior that's illegal, that crosses the line. >> harris: we're looking at live pictures right now and waint to try to make sense of what some people may be looking to see. there is a concerted effort, a more organized effort now and we're watching if we could get above this. we can't control the camera now. if you could see from above they're marching and going from the capitol to the u.s. supreme court. i want to ask my team if i got that right? okay. this group is very large and you see the law enforcement there trying to guide them off the sidewalks into a place where they can do that safely because there are so many of them. you know, carey, we can't tell if everybody is in the same vein here. there were pro-life protestors out there quite jubilant after this decision came down.

the crowds may be a mix of that. we don't know all of who are walking. that's a big group of people. >> when i was there there were slightly more people standing and praying compared to the other side. today you're right. a lot of people have come out very angry and shouting. but i know there are also a lot of people there praying. i think they are a little worried for their safety. i talked to people who were there and police had to insert themselves and protect the pro-life protestors from some of the people who are so angry and violent right now. i'm concerned because jane's revenge, one of the antifa-associated groups doing fire bombings of crisis pregnancy centers have advocated for a night of rage at 8:00 p.m. tonight and let's get physical. pro-lifers, many people are there bravely praying but i think it takes a lot of courage to go into that crowd where it is a very high tension.

>> harris: women's rights right now. women's laws, laws that affect women have been on the bill now for 50 years with regard to this and were there any other signs that you saw other than that leaked draft opinion that we could possibly be headed to this day? wait a minute, hold on a second. hold on. i'm so sorry to cut you off. in case people are watching that's congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez at the middle of that scrum now. she has got a microphone. i don't know if we could hear her. it is not hooked up to us. but that's aoc. carey, go ahead. >> the question here isn't about the court making a decision on abortion policy. justice kavanaugh tried to make it really clear. his line is he wants to court to stay neutral on abortion. they don't think it's the best legal regime but the question is what does the constitution

require. where the constitution does create limits as we saw with yesterday's decision on the second amendment they do have to defend those and make sure that states aren't able to infringe them. where the constitution does not speak to something and it is clear from the text of the constitution this dissent in this case didn't even make a real effort to say the constitution actually has language talking about abortion or protecting abortion. it doesn't. it is not a longstanding right in our country and everyone recognitions not a right to abortion in common law or constitution and yet they want to bring it in there. when the constitution doesn't speak about it the court's job is to get out of the way and leaves room for states and they will come to all sorts of different results. but i think those results even the results that are limiting access to abortion if you look at the reasoning from the states it is about helping women as well. people who recognize there are health risks and psychological

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>> it's incredible. thank god for all the people who have been fighting for 50 years. before i was even born. we would not be here without them. i would have been devastated and furious. but at the end of the day it doesn't make a difference. our job as pro-life people is to advance the pro-life cause legally and culturally. >> harris: their voices are

heard loud and clear today and you may see so much more coverage and louder microphones near the people who are angry about this day. we want to show you all of everything that is happening including the balance of people who are jubilant on this day the overturning of roe v. wade. former vice president mike pence with the statement moments ago. today life won. by overturning roe v. wade the supreme court of the united states has given the americana new beginning for life and i commend the justices in the majority for having the courage of their convictions. by returning the question of abortion to the states and people, this supreme court has righted an historic wrong and reaffirmed the right of the american people to govern themselves at the state level in a manner consistent with their values and aspirations. i will bring in now jonathan turley, constitutional law attorney and fox news contributor. i want to talk specifically about next steps because as i just mentioned, jonathan, we are going to see a lot of anger

and protests and all of the like from those who really detest what today means. it is important to hear from everybody including those who have been under threat at pregnancy centers and so on and so forth trying to do their side of the argument, pro-life, to get to this day. but for democrats there may be some politics in the works already in terms of court packing. what could that look like? >> well, this is part of the time we're living in that when you don't agree with something the court does, you immediately demand that you pack the court. one former msnbc host two days ago said we should just get rid of the court. even aoc has said she doesn't see why the court really has a continuing function or why we should have it. that's obviously a crisis of faith that we have in our constitutional system as people who lack faith in what the

system is supposed to accomplish. the court anticipated this reaction. in the opinion, the court repeatedly got back to the parade of horibles that speaker pelosi and others started with. contraception may now be criminalized and some people suggesting brown versus board of education could be overturned. the court said there will be people who are going to fuel this unfounded fear about the opinion. the court majority says this is not about contraception, it is not about same-sex marriage. the court repeatedly says those are based on different arguments, different constitutional interpretations. and this opinion does not impact those rights. but saying it doesn't mean that people will hear it and we've seen already politicians lining up to say that these rights are

now in danger. so in the coming days we are going to have to deal with that and you are right. those people who want to pack the court will once again say well, let's just call it quits. and you know, the thing is this constitution has taken us through periods that would have reduced most countries to a fine pumice. it is not the most poetic document in the world but a document designed to survive. we owe a great deal to it. it means little if we lack faith in it. what you are hearing on the streets is really the voices of the faithless who have lost faith in the institution. i hope that they will with time realize that they have an investment in this constitutional system and in this court. having the speaker of the house of representatives attack members of the supreme court as right wing politicians is disgraceful. you can disagree with their

philosophy but to call them right wing politicians, to impugn their integrity, it is wrong. this is the time of a test of leadership. i'm afraid she flunked that test today. >> harris: a lot of wise words there. jonathan turley, thank you very much. we want to get to some news that's breaking now. david spunt live at the justice department. the very first reaction from the attorney general of the united states. david. >> that's exactly right. this is significant not only because merrick garland is the attorney general of the united states, the nation's top law enforcement officer, but he almost was a u.s. supreme court justice when then president barack obama nominated him back in 2016. they never got a hearing, possibly things could have been different if he was on the supreme court and what makes his statement significant. i want to read parts of his statement that struck out to me. he said this decision deals a devastating blow to the reproductive freedom in the united states and it will have an immediate and irreversible

impact on the lives of people across the country and will be greatly disproportionate in its effect with the greatest burden felt by those of colors and limited financial means. we'll use every tool at our disposal to protect reproductive freedom and protect civil rights of all americans. you mentioned with professor turley and others on our air over the past hour or so that people may be crossing state lines to get an abortion. let's say illegal in arizona, meaning people may travel to california, garland also continued in his statement he said women who reside in states that have banned access to comprehensive reproductive care must remain free to seek that care in states where it is legal. so the department of justice signing off an women crossing overstate lines to get those abortions where they will be legal. harris.

>> harris: you know, congresswoman was saying some of the same things. in terms of how democrats will broaden this out. bring in other issues that may be in other cases to try to either get rid of the court as jonathan turley was just saying, or pack it to their advantage. david spunt, thank you very much. newly sworn in republican congresswoman flores of the state of texas is with us now. member of the house homeland security committee. great to see you. so we'll see you again obviously as we head into the mid-terms. look, i want to get first of all your first reaction to this and then i want to talk specifically about protecting the justices and what is coming down the pike. >> honestly, this is a dream come true for me, for south texas. in south texas we're pro-life so this is a big win for us in

south texas but also for our country. and we have to start respecting lives. we have to start valuing lives. the reason why i believe we have so much crime in our country is because we stopped respecting life. if we start focusing and raising our children to value life in the womb, i really do believe that this would help us decrease crime in our country and again this was a big win for us especially in south texas because we are big pro-life. we are big on pro-life. >> harris: you have had a big week, a big two months but definitely a big week with your victory in texas. i want to talk about how you then make that contagious for others in your party in the mid-term elections. what are your thoughts about what's coming down the pike particularly for the state of texas? >> well, to be honest with you i've been focusing just on district 34. so much happening in our country, so much happening here

in washington but i try to focus just on district 34 and what is best for my community right now we're struggling. we're hurting tremendously because of the economy and everyone that i'm talking about that's all they honestly they care about right now. they only care about bringing down the cost of living that is hurting them tremendously especially our elderly community that thought they could retire but now are more likely having to go back to work or getting another job because it is not enough. >> harris: you laid out all the reasons why you would hope, if you were a democrat, your president could help you out. but those are all the things statistically that president biden is underwater on in the polling and those are the things that matter most that you just talked about. with texas in mind -- i have a lot of family in your state -- when you talk about oil, though, it is such a none second tear we're in the trouble we're in. we have oil in the country.

>> absolutely. we can't live without it. i don't understand what the biden administration is doing. i think they do understand but they are doing this on purpose to hurt us. their policies are hurting real people and families and why the hispanic community has walked away. i feel the democrat party walked away from the hispanic community and why the hispanic community will not be supporting no democrat coming this november and they don't deserve it. i've been telling the hispanic community look what they are doing to your families and your communities. they don't deserve your vote. >> harris: congresswoman flores you started with your feelings about this extremely important day at the u.s. supreme court, the overturning of roe v. wade and we covered some other topics. great to have you on the program for the very first time. >> thank you so much. god bless you. >> harris: martha maccallum joining, managing editor and anchor of "the story" 3:00 p.m.

eastern. don't miss it. martha, we have to be realistic about what the last five to six weeks have brought into this country in terms of danger against our u.s. supreme court justices. and it hasn't been even handed in that sense. it has been against the conservatives on this court. what is happening right now to insure all of their safety? >> you know, we have seen the bill signed by president biden and obviously you are right. i want to say the coverage has been really so strong all morning and just one note in a general way before we talk about the security issue very quickly is that it is impossible to separate this from what we should now see as a trump court or a trump/mcconnell court. you look at the action taken against merrick garland, now the attorney general of the united states under mcconnell during the obama administrations and the decisions of this week. school choice, second amendment and now this.

this is an enormous sea change moment and this court reflects that. also it is so extraordinary you had a one-term president who had the opportunity to appoint three justices and he said from the outset in his entire process that he was going to make sure he put conservative jurists on the court and an enormous sea change. we saw what happened at barrett's house with these young women with baby dolls and blood all over themselves and what happened at kavanaugh's house. now a push from the senate republicans to get the house to get more funding to the u.s. marshals to protect the court and their employees. >> harris: the senate is pushing the house to pass the bill. if you listen to the tone of not just her words the house speaker a short time ago nancy pelosi, would she let the

politics of this moment for democrats in the house get in the way of doing the right thing to protect the justices? >> we've seen so much covid funding that hasn't been spent. hundreds of millions of dollars designated and not spent. the money is out there to protect these individuals right now. we know that jane's revenge has promised a night of rage on the night of this decision. we've seen what has happened in the past, harris. in the past few weeks and you go back to the riots in the summer of 2020. this nation is in very precarious positions right now in terms of the volatility and the potential for violence. i don't want to overstate that but i think everybody feels it. we have to be extremely careful. that money can -- is out there. it can be designated and they just put their heads together on this senate bill on guns. they need to do the same thing with regard to this money to protect these families and extend it to potentially their staff as well. >> harris: you can't overstate

it. we have the president of the united states that hasn't even uttered a word about a u.s. justice who saw an attempted assassination on his life. somebody on his property. that case being adjudicated right now. >> a swat team across the front lawn. >> harris: more news. appreciate you, martha. thank you for watching "the faulkner focus". breaking news coverage and now "outnumbered" after the break. are stopping you in your tracks... choose stelara® from the start... and move toward relief after the first dose... with injections every two months. stelara® may increase your risk of infections, some serious, and cancer. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, sores, new skin growths, have had cancer, or if you need a vaccine. pres, a rare, potentially fatal brain condition, may be possible. some serious allergic reactions and lung inflammation can occur.

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