tv Tucker Carlson Tonight FOX News June 24, 2022 5:00pm-6:00pm PDT
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no she is special because we guys don't understand. al from pennsylvania, don't insult yourself. i don't know what else i lost it. i have the run, have a nice weekend everyone. i'm jesse watters and this is my world. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." after nearly 50 years, the single shot is, most destructive supreme court decision in american history has been struck down. roe v. wade was overturned this morning by a 6-3 majority. here's how fox news reported it at ten i am here to speak of the decision as outcome it has been issued by justice alito and
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roe v. wade according to our res shannon bream is that roe v. wade has been overturned and the question of abortion has been returned to the states. >> tucker: pandemonium ensued immediately in the headline of the babylon become democrats paused january 6th hearing to pause for insurrection and that is basically true but from a legal perspective, which is what matters, there is nothing surprising about today's decision. it's only a matter of time before roe v. wade was overturned. that's been obvious for decades. even democrats once acknowledged. roe was one of those decisions you never heard anyone defend on its own terms. lots of people want legal abortion but no one has ever explained how exactly the constitution guarantees that. roe was a political document, not a legal opinion and that its existence undermined the legitimacy of the supreme court.
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it was poison. the purpose of the supreme court a simple, it is to determine whether the laws the politicians pass are consistent with the united states constitution. that is it, that is all the united states constitution does. with the supreme court should not do, cannot do never do is make law and it should never do that because court making laws would be by definition antidemocratic. none of the nine supreme court justices have been elected by anyone. all have lifetime appointments. if you cared about democracy and wanted democracy to continue you would demand that all laws in the united states to be passed by elected legislatures. again, no matter how you feel about abortion or any other specific issue. in democracy voters have the final word on how they are governed. that is what democracy is. now after nearly half a century, voters have had their rights restored on the question of abortion. if they like abortion, they can vote to legalize abortion. if they don't like abortion, they can vote to ban abortion.
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that is not shocking, that is how our system is supposed to work. not being a monarchy and all. so what is the argument against this? well, there isn't one, really. and we know that for certain from the dissent in today's supreme court ruling. the three justices who objected don't even bother to make a legal argument in favor of keeping roe v. wade. instead they throw an embarrassing little tantrum. at one point, they warned that the highly diabolical clarence thomas actually plans to ban interracial marriage. clarence thomas against interracial marriage. and then of course there's lots of huffing about something called bodily autonomy, which we are actually strongly in favor of, though it is not clear how that applies to abortion which affects two bodies. in any case, these same bodily autonomy people are the very same justices who just voted to uphold mandatory vaccinations for millions of americans, thus
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violating their bodily autonomy. so much for that argument. not that it stopped a justin trudeau of canada, where abortions are illegal until the moment of birth. today justin trudeau wrote this, the news coming out of the united states is horrific. no government, politician or man should tell a woman what she can or cannot do with her body. suddenly women are the only one who get pregnant, you will notice. canada is a country, by the way, under the leadership of justin trudeau that prevented unvaccinated citizens from traveling within their own country. they had mandatory vaccinations. justin trudeau was perfectly happy to tell the women of canada what to put in their own body. so you are beginning to see why precisely zero people throwing tantrums today have bothered to explain the law or the principal that supposedly underlie roe v. wade. not one of them. instead they are yelling, as they always do. suspending the january 6th hearings to start an insurrection, and that would of
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course include joe biden. here he is. >> it was three justices named by one president, donald trump, who in today's decision chose to upend the scales of justice and eliminate a fundamental right. this decision is a combination of a deliberate combination of decades to upset the balance of our law. it's extreme ideology and a tragic error by the supreme court, in my view. >> tucker: noticed that his abortion that is the redline for them. abortion, of all the issues, why is that so important for them? it is obvious why it is so
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important for america's corporations. or the name on the insurance policy. is all about the money for corporate america. it always is. families are bad for big corporations, therefore they are for families beer but what is the president talking about exactly? what is this extreme ideology? pro baby? to upset the balance, what is joe biden talking about. this particular ruling dramatically reduces the power of unelected judges to dictate the details of the lives of millions of americans and returns that power to voters. voters get to decide how they want to live. that's an extreme ideology? that upsets the balance of power somehow? we thought that was the whole premise of our system. we thought that was democracy. yet the very people who have been lecturing us for years about democracy, the end of democracy are horrified by the return of democracy. they are telling us the
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legitimacy of our institutions is at risk and yet they cannot allow voters to have a say in how they live. what does that tell you? it tells you they care about power, not popular support. they are afraid to put their ideas to the test of a vote and that is where the justice department, which no longer dispenses justice and works on behalf of the democratic party, allowed thugs to get out that the homes of supreme court justices for the last several weeks in an effort to intimidate them into not doing what they did today. that is why today you saw several elected members of congress call for insurrection for that would include sandy cortez of westchester. that would include as always, maxine waters of los angeles. this is not the first riot she has called for. she once again threatened of violence against supreme court justices because they came to an opinion she didn't agree with and promised to defy the court's ruling. how's this for defending our institutions? watch.
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>> you ain't seen nothing yet. women are going to control their bodies no matter how they try and stop us. to hell with the supreme court. women will be in control of their bodies, and if they think black women are intimidated or afraid, they've got another thought coming. >> tucker: to hell with the supreme court. at roberta mcgaw bay there. we will defy them. really? you will defy our court institution after sending people to prison for questioning the last election, is that what you are saying? don't lecture us ever again about the sanctity of our institutions, about our norms, because you clearly don't care about them at all. what you care about his power. candace owens has been watching all of this, including the press against the supreme court. very closely, we are happy to have her join us tonight.
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candace, it is kind of revealing. i do think the babylon be put it best, january 6th commission suspends its duties for the day to call for insurrection, that was the fastest pivot may be in history. >> absolutely the fastest pivot and let me say this on behalf of so many women watching this who would like me used to be pro-choice and are now poor old life , i am so tired of the lies, pretending women are not harmed by these policies. i've known six women who had abortions, the first four were peer pressured. men demanding that they get abortions. a law decided by seven white men. boyfriends threatening domestic violence in situations in parents pressuring them pretending that if you have this child it is going to ruin your life and at the end of the day you have an education system convincing them it is an easy choice when these women suffer at the head of these abortions. there is nothing that is pro-women about abortion at all. it is always been a predatory
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system that has been a place for very long time and we should be salivating the end of it and having a real conversation about in general. i'm seeing a lot of people entering these race arguments, that is especially egregious. no one has ever accused maxine waters of being smart but we have accused her of being corrupt and the fact that she keeps correlating this to black america and the black americans are suffering and amy schumer said this is what slaveholders wanted beer let me be clear, planned parenthood was created for the basis of eugenicist them. margaret sanger was a eugenicist who wanted to get rid of people she deemed to be unfit and undesirable. that included lack women, that included italians and a bunch of immigrants who were coming over. they wanted to reject the nordic white pure race. i am tired of this watching of history and what they want us to further themselves and their own self interests, the lobby groups, people receiving money and as you pointed out, just
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corrupt politicians that don't care about the women who are suffering at the end of these abortions. i am proud, i do want to say this, that mob justice did not rule in this circumstance. i'm proud that despite the supreme court just as having their lives threatened they stood up and took a stance and they said this is the constitution and we are going to stand by the constitution and that needs to happen more often. >> tucker: babies are the greatest burst of joy, children are beautiful, they are a gift, i don't know why anyone would take pleasure in destroying them. i think you've gone off track if you take pleasure in that in my view. i appreciate you coming on and reminding us of everything you said. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> tucker: tonight is supposed to be a night of rage. remember, the supreme court decision, no one voted for anyone who sits on the supreme court. therefore, public pressure on the court should play no role because they can't be unelected. wright was wrong they are not standing for election in the next cycle.
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so you protest against the supreme court, what he really protesting against? you are attempting to intimidate them. thousands of people emerging in your city. 4500 of them are heading to chuck schumer's office. from rebel news, he is there tonight and we thought we would check in with him. jeremy, are you there? >> i am here, thank you for having me, tucker. >> tucker: of course, what do you see? what is happening there? >> there are thousands of people here. i have seen chads and assigns calling for the abolition of the supreme court. calling for the end of white supremacy and i have been seeing signs that are also calling for the forest vasectomy of men as opposed to abortion for women. so it is really wild here. >> tucker: i mean, these people seem pretty organized. it seems like these signs, some of these signs, stickers and the coordinates, it seems like they were ready for this before it happened.
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>> of course. the signs were mass-produced somehow at a moment's notice. everyone is holding the same signs. i don't know where they got them. i've asked a few people and they said someone is handing them out. i don't know who is behind it, who is behind the signs. there's even some posters going around that say, tonight is a night to riot, verbatim. so who knows what is to come for the rest of the night. >> tucker: so if they are calling for the elimination of the united states supreme court, the forced sterilization of men and rioting, then this is a dangerous extremist movement. i don't know how else an honest person would describe it. am i missing something? >> of course. and it's also important to highlight these of the same exact people that stood by and watched as thousands and thousands of new yorkers and thousands of women in new york were fired from their jobs for not submitting to the vaccine mandate. so they are pro-choice and
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pro-bodily autonomy in one area, and of course they are not pro-choice or bodily autonomy in another area. >> tucker: and they hate democracy, the idea of voters being able to decide how they are governed as the worst possible outcome they could imagine. i appreciate you covering this, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> tucker: there are apparently protest that may turn into riots across the country tonight. there is a big one outside the supreme court in this hour. senior editor at town hall is there, author of the book "mostly peaceful" about 2020 and the gaslighting of america which he covered extensively. what do you see at the court? >> i've been outside the supreme court for most of the day and as the night has worn on thousands of people have shown up in opposition of the supreme court ruling. when the decision was announced there were some tears from the
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pro-abortion crowd. they chanted that the court was a legitimate and there have just been more and more people showing up as time has gone on. i can say in terms of d.c. being prepared for any potential unrest, the metropolitan police department has canceled days off for officers bear they're going to be on 12-hour shifts so they can be stand by for full mobilization peer there's been e presence at the capitol, supreme court police as well as mpd. so often times in my experience, these things don't typically get out of hand until after sunset and that is about to happen in the next 30 minutes or so, so we will just see what happens once it finally does get dark. >> tucker: julio, i hate to generalize on the basis of race but you are hearing so much about race, an offense to black people, et cetera. every protest i see seems to be populated almost exclusively by college-educated, affluent white people. kind of the whole foods,
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soulcycle set. is that true what you are seeing now? you are there. >> no, there certainly are a lot of white people. i've met some college students but there are certainly some minorities. some speakers have been predominately black or hispanic. we had a ocd calling for more people to come out into the streets. in the time here, it is been a healthy mix of races. >> tucker: interesting. julio for us at the supreme court, a man who has covered many riots. good luck tonight. you heard sandy cortez is there. if there's any doubt that this became bloody and violent or that she would be cheering it on, of course not. she's in favor of that appeared in response to today's ruling, activists are continuing to threaten supreme court justices at their homes. a group called ruth sent us, reference to ruth bader ginsburg sent us the home addresses of supreme court justices on twitter. tonight, meet at 7:00 p.m.
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tomorrow, we start at all scotus six. these are threats posted publicly against supreme court justices. they have been on an arrest binge recently. they've arrested all kinds of people associated with former president donald trump, and yet they've done nothing about this beer they are refusing to do anything to stop the intimidation of our highest court. senator josh hawley of missouri joins us tonight with his reaction. senator, unless i'm missing something this seems a grave to me. speak of this is very serious, tucker. this is on merrick garland and joe biden. they have had literally months to jill biden supporters, don't break the law. don't go to the justices' homes and what has happened was mike they've encouraged it. it is mine to protest and pick it a justice's home. it against the law. we've had an assassination attempt on a justice barrett thankfully didn't work.
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i mean, he is still alive. and it didn't intimidate the court but this night of rage at which the justice department has known about for weeks now is a possibility, if it gets out of hand this will because of joe biden and merrick garland. they didn't stop the violence when they could have. they didn't tell biden support us to stand down when they should have. so it's on them. >> tucker: kind of weird this is exactly the moment when biden and merrick garland are telling the rest of us, i'm sorry, you are going to have to give your guns up. do you think this is a good time to turn in your guns? >> you know, it is never a good time to surrender to the government when they try to take away your fundamental liberties, and that is of course with this administration wants. they make a lot of noise about rights that aren't in the constitution, like abortion, but for things that are plainly there like the second amendment, right there in the text, that they say, let's just get rid of it. it's a paradox for sure but it goes to the heart of their philosophy which is to try to control. if you don't agree with them
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then in your view, get enough rights. free speech, second amendment, no. you don't have them. it was you were told, sit down, shut up. >> tucker: we were born here, we are americans, we have those rights and we are grateful you are helping defend them. thank you, senator hawley. josh hawley of missouri. nancy pelosi depending on the day spends a lot of time throwing her christianity in your face. it is of course false, she is in no sense a christian and after today supreme court decision she looked like she was about to pass out, she was that upset. she said the supreme court of the united states had "eviscerated human rights." here is part of it. >> there was no point in saying good morning because it certainly is not one. this morning, the radical supreme court is eviscerating americans rights and endangering the health and safety. because of donald trump, mitch mcconnell and the republican party, their super majority in the supreme court, american women today have less
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freedom than their mothers. with roe and their attempt to destroy it, radical republicans are charging ahead with their crusade to criminalize health freedom. what this means to women is such an insult. it's a slap in the face to women. >> tucker: they took her sacrament away. health, freedom? really? that is the same nancy pelosi who was forcing american women to take an experimental vaccine that hurt an awful lot of them. and nancy pelosi applauded as their lives were destroyed and they were fired from their jobs because they wouldn't take that experimental drug. there she is explaining about the results of the democratic election. really? donald trump ran for president. whether you like him or not he said i will appoint conservative judges to the court who will overturn roe v. wade beard people voted for him, he won, he did that, it happened. that does seem like democracy in action. but democracy doesn't stop there. we've got another election
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coming up, the midterm and you've got to wonder what effect this will have on those races. dana perino follows of this stuff very carefully. coanchor of "america's newsroom." she's also on "the five" every night. thank you for coming on tonight. how do you think this is likely, thinking ahead to november, likely to affect those elections? >> very interesting that nancy pelosi, when she talks about this, same as maxine waters, they talk in terms of this is going to be the issue that helps us win in november. instead of talking about the merits of the issue, they want to talk about the politics. okay, fine. so you've done a good job tonight of talking about the merits. let's talk about the politics for a moment. you don't know for sure. in some ways on the democratic side it might help boost some fund-raising that they need. but it also might figure out a way for them to keep some suburban women in their camp. but then on the other side, remember the virginia governor's
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race and glenn youngkin. terry mcauliffe tried to make that entire campaign against glenn youngkin about abortion, and when the results came out, glenn youngkin won. in the exit poll where they said, what is the number one issue you care about. if it was abortion, 60% of those people voted for glenn youngkin. so i don't think this is a slam-dunk the democrats think it is. i do think republicans also could've been actually depressed in their turn out if the outcome had not been what it is today. republican activists and the grassroots have been working on this for 50 years. and the trump appointments were critical, as were the bush appointments, especially alito, who wrote the opinion today. elections definitely matter for the next one in november will matter and in particular i am very interested in the hispanic women vote. look what happened when you had a female latina beat a democrat handily, and those women are starting to change a little bit at the border and republicans
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don't have to win the entire hispanic vote, it would be very hard for them to win and other national. >> tucker: these are the most general possible terms but hispanic voters particularly new arrivals are far more likely to be sincere orthodox christians than americans or your average democratic voter. how does this not help at least potentially among those voters? >> i think it certainly doesn't i would imagine when the dust settles democrats might think we have a problem here. this could energize a lot of democrats for a while however i would say this, we are four months away in the number one issue facing americans is inflation, gas prices, food prices, immigration, crime, education. all of those issues have been above. even sometimes climate change ranks above abortion. that could change in abortion
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will probably move up that ladder, but when you're trying to feed your family that is going to be number one. >> tucker: have fewer children? not much of an inspiring message from my perspective. i appreciate your perspective. thank you. as we said a minute ago, this is not a surprise. the law, that matters because it is the supreme court we are talking about, the law behind the roe v. wade decision in 1973 was so shoddy and ridiculous because abortion is not mentioned in the constitution, not even alluded to, that a lot of people figured out a long time ago that it would at some point be overturned because it was too absurd to continue. so a lot of states have been preparing for it, more than a dozen have trigger laws that will take effect now that roe v. wade has been overturned and a lot of them will outlaw most abortion. eventually roughly half the country is expected to implement a significant new restrictions on abortion, and that matches
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public opinion polling on abortion which is to say a lot of people don't like abortion. if you live in new york city you might not know any of them but if you live in mississippi you know quite a few. the point is, people will get to live with the laws they want. how is that bad? the state of missouri became the first state to ban abortion, eric schmidt attorney general, we are happy to have him join us. attorney general, thank you so much for coming on. what is the state of abortion in missouri now? >> missouri became the first date after this be a decision to effectively end abortion for this has been worked on for decades, people prayed up on this, it's a long time coming. thankfully president trump appointed three supreme court justices knew that the road to decision, the date was issued was on a collision course with the constitution. and we see that here today now. this decision will be decided as it should've 49 years ago to the states. missouri interestingly in 1825 was the first aid tips formally
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prohibit abortion for that was the law of our state until roe v. wade and now we are back to where should've always been. it's a big day and as you pointed out, it is a big day for democracy, for the voters to have a say as opposed to the nine unelected justices ready nine years ago that decided this for everybody in the country. and i think what you are seeing now with this night of rage that has been talked about, the justice department has no interest in condemning it, they haven't done anything to stop it. we've seen us assassination attempt of a supreme court justice. this is going to continue. the justice department is way more interested in seeking the fbi on parents who show up to school board meetings under the patriot act and then arresting folks intimidating supreme court justices. this is out of out of the banana third world republic but thankfully the rule of law was buttressed today and missouri was the first state to take action. i was proud to do that is the state's chief legal officer.
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>> tucker: i'm glad this is back in the political arena where it belongs, where voters can decide. what effect, people are going to have to start affirmatively defending abortion and not hiding behind stupid slogans and euphemisms. it's a choice, it's a health care procedure, it's a human right. well what is it and why don't you tell us what you are for it? you look forward to the composition? >> absolutely, that is where should've been all along. 49 late as we have a reset and the people get to weigh in, what was always intended as opposed to roe v. wade which was made out of whole cloth. >> tucker: yeah, it's amazing. they hate democracy like the devil hates holy water. it's amazing to see it. eric schmidt -- >> well -- thanks, tucker. >> tucker: thank you so much. some states, liberal states are creating what they are calling abortion sanctuaries. abortion sanctuaries.
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come to our state, we have more abortion! [laughs] today the governor of california, because they've nothing else to talk about, promoting his so-called western alliance with oregon and washington. he was the mentally deficient governor of california. >> we will do our fair share and more. and speaking of more, i'm really proud that we are joining in with others. not just of the state of but other governors, western governors stood up as well, and i am grateful to governor brown and governor inslee that are asserting that the united states of america, at least the western united states will stand tall in terms of our reproductive values and reproductive freedoms. and we are a sanctuary. >> tucker: in other words, says gavin newsom, we can't provide housing for middle-class people.
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we can't provide jobs or functional schools. we can't keep our infrastructure in any state of repair. we can't even keep the lights on. we are running out of electricity but you know what we can do? we can give you more abortion. by the way, if you are for that, if you think abortion makes you happy, go to california. shannon bream is chief legal correspondent for fox news and also the host of "fox news at night" and our friend. she joins us with an overview of how the states are reacting. thanks so much for coming on. this has been fast. states have sort of come out with these new positions. tell us what you are seeing, if you would. >> listen, for years these cases have been percolating to the supreme court. states have had a plan and after the leak happened it became solidified for a lot of states because they knew they would have to decide where to go if roe was overturned. a number of states have had trigger laws immediately outlawing abortion like today. others are 30 days, 90 days, whatever the date is of roe being struck down.
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some restrictions are from the beginning, some are at a heartbeat, summer at 12 or 15 weeks so there is a smorgasbord across these different states. but there are states on the other end that say we will go the other direction and we will make sure that you have unfettered abortion anxious here. i talked to a colorado governor a few weeks ago about what they had passed and the kind of shied away from the characterization that it meant abortion up until birth but when i pressed him he could not identify any kind of limitation on abortion up until birth in colorado. a lot of states are going to do that as well. is going to draw states further apart in a number of states have said we are going to have some kind of social justice or reproductive justice funding so that people who want to come here from out of state travel to our state for abortions and we will provide that as well. you will probably talk about this, a number of companies have said we will make it an employee benefit as well. there's nothing that bans you from traveling to a different state.
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if it has a policy would like to pursue. abortion is not illegal, i had a guy next to me on the airplane asked me about this and he thought of roe vs. wade was overturned abortion would be illegal nationwide. it is not and it will all depend on the state you live in. >> tucker: amazing. we are going to get into the detail, since we haven't done for 49 years, which will be illuminating for a lot of people. thank you for covering that and i appeared >> good to see you. >> tucker: you heard shannon say it, big companies are all on board. we will pay for your portion, we won't give you a raise but we will make certain you don't have a family because we don't want that to distract you from devoting your life to us. all the loyalty goes one way. devote your life to the big company, don't have a family! what are people going to feel like at the age of 60. was it with a was mcnuggets, citibank paid for my abortion but i'm glad i made it to assistant vp for lending. we are not going to defend the
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legal reasoning for roe v. wade because there is no legal reasoning to defend so they turn immediately to fearmongering. soon they are going to overturn gay marriage and contraception. watch this. >> i have warned how this decision risk to the broader right to privacy for everyone. that is because roe recognized the fundamental right to privacy. it served as a basis for so many rights that we've come to take for granted. that are ingrained in the fabric of this country. the right to make the best decisions for your health. the right to use birth control. a married couple in the privacy of their bedroom, for god's sake. at the right to marry the person you love. >> tucker: [laughs] yeah, they are going to take your condoms away! [laughs] and then gay marriage!
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he is just reading the card, he has no idea. they say he was just hyperventilating about specifically what you just heard biden say is not true. they addressed it specifically and we are quoting, "nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast out on president that do not concern abortion." got that? so actually, this does not allow them to ban condoms or gay marriage or interracial marriage or whatever. fearmongering talking point. whatever lie they are telling you is a lie. it says that right in the decision. for me dillon read the decision, this country buster's premier civil rights lawyer, ceo, thank you so much for coming on. even by their standards, where you just say, literally whatever it takes and ally with a straight face, this just came out today, they have seen it,
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how can biden say that? >> biden as usual is 50 years behind the curve, the privacy right he talked about in roe v. wade isn't even the current law, so as this opinion points out, roe based its reasoning about the privacy right of the fifth, fourth, and ninth amendment. the most recent law which refined this case really relies on only one aspect of the constitution which is substantive due process under the 14th amendment. so what they tried to do and that casey decision is wrap abortion into that prudence which includes all of those other aspects. but as this opinion points out, abortion is fundamentally different. unlike the marriage cases, unlike these other fundamental rights cases, only abortion stops a human life and that makes it absolutely unique in the law. that is why a different analysis needs to apply to its peers
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of course justice thomas did say in his concurring opinion that the jurist prudence that under underlies this decision is also deeply flawed. you can believe both things. the people should have a right to contraception, the people should have the right to abortion, and you can believe that eradicating those rights on a flawed 14th amendment analysis is garbage prudence. that is where it needs to go, needs to go back to the states and as your whole show has been pointing out it is much easier for democrats to create fear and hype and riot. it's also cheaper to make laws by pressuring a handful of justices than by passing laws in the state that the majority supports. this is a very sound decision and i'm not losing any sleep over losing any fundamental rights here at the basis of this decision. >> tucker: by the way, democrats said they were going to codify roe of the congress, they were going to pass a federal law basically restating roe and they couldn't even agree on what a pregnant person was.
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that's the reason it didn't get through. do you think they can pass a federal law codifying roe? why don't they try, i don't understand. >> we know why. as science has advanced and people become more enlightened about this issue and the harms of abortion, there is no majority for an abortion law like roe. roe itself is not even the law. even for a case majority of americans do not believe that there should be abortion after fetal heart beat, after the fetus can feel pain. that is the 15 week level, the mississippi law, the fetus has developed a heart and eyelids and can suck her thumb. that is not something, or a fetus that most americans believe should be subject to termination at whim. so they cannot get that law passed. that is why they are hyperventilating and freaking out over here. >> tucker: exactly. harmeet dhillon, great to see you, thank you.
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this is a fox news alert, utah has triggered a new law that bans abortion except in rare circumstances. it is now officially in effect and has been on the books for a while. we should also point out by the way, however you feel about abortion, whether you are for legal abortion or not, having children is the most profoundly rewarding act that most human beings experience. ask anybody who has one. it doesn't mean you need to have kids but ask anyone who has kids, is there anything in your life more rewarding than that, more meaningful, more profound? anyone who is trying to prevent you from doing that is probably not looking out for your happiness. today i own today ayanna pressley called on the biden administration to declare public health emergency over abortion rights. we don't have enough abortion in this country. that is public health emergency, would have nothing to do with te children getting aborted. evidence shows that abortion doesn't just kill unborn children, it also torches them.
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they suffer. that is real , that quote, there is universal agreement in the scientific community that an unborn child experiences fetal pain by at least 20 weeks." it is true. unborn children feel pain even earlier than that. at 18 weeks, stress arises when needles are used to draw their blood in utero. the john hopkins university of health, he joins us tonight. taking the politics out of it, roe v. wade out of it, just the science of us, we know that children in utero, fetuses, a developing human being in utero feels pain, correct? >> that's right. somewhere between 15 and 20 weeks babies will actually resist the instruments of abortion. roe is based on viability but viability has been changing.
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babies survive now at approximately the halfway point of pregnancy at 21 and 22 weeks, babies have survived outside the womb, so ironically we sometimes do fetal surgery inside the womb of the mother to save the baby's life and at the same age, now surgical instruments are used to abort a baby. there is a great irony and now you can barely talk about it. i witnessed it as a medical student and i will tell you it doesn't matter which side you protest on about this issue. if you see the actual images of what is happening at a baby resisting an abortion, it will weigh on your conscience. today you can barely talk about it, nurses can get fired if they don't participate, students are ridiculed. most of the medical institutions have taken a stand supporting abortion until the third trimester. >> tucker: it does nothing to restore confidence in the medical profession. no offense to physicians like yourself.
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appreciate your coming on. thank you. >> thanks. no matter how you slice it the truth is corporate america wants abortion because families are inconvenient for employees. when you have a child you take maternity leave, you add a name to the insurance policy, it costs companies money. corporations want you childless. they want you devoted to them, not your family, that is true. feminism more broadly is a corporate live so it shouldn't surprise you that cnn which is carrying water for corporate interests in this country spend the entire day telling you how abortion is a sacred human right. it may be the single most unbelievable and upsetting argument came from ana navarro who once said the creepy porn lawyer was a spirit. she actually said it would be
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better if they didn't exist. watch appear to speak up because i have a family with a lot of special needs kids. i have a brother who is 57 and has the mental and motor skills of a 1-year-old and i know what that means financially, emotionally, physically for a family. and i know not all families can do it. i do have a step granddaughter who was born with down syndrome and know what, it is very difficult in florida to get services. it is not as easy as it sounds on paper. and i've got another step grandson who is autistic. who has autism and their mothers and people who are in that society, who were in that community will tell you that they've considered suicide. >> tucker: morally grotesque. president of live action joins us. if you were watching television, she's really a hassle to deal with, she's expensive, she's got
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all kinds of demands, it would be better if we had killed her in utero how would you feel about that? that is the argument ana navarro just made. >> there is nothing more depraved than to say and wish on public television to wish your own family members had never even been born and instead had been aborted in the womb. what this commentator from cnn is really proposing, many pro-abortion advocates proposing is eugenics. this is an experience the strong should kill the week, that we are worthless and because the preborn are an unpopular minority they want to oppress them and kill them here that is why we need rule of law to protect these children. >> tucker: she is making the nazi arguments, they are a burden to society, they shouldn't exist. i was that different from the argument that the nazis mate? >> what the supreme court has done, i am grateful that --
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watch their blood of the unborn children and turn it over to mob rule. now it is up to the mob to decide which children live or die and mob rule is no justice at all beer that is why we have to work harder than ever for pro-life protections state-by-state. >> tucker: joining us tonight, lila rose, thank you so much. there's a lot of news tonight. we will be back in just a minute with what is happening around the country in the wake of this.
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♪ ♪ >> tucker: the left doesn't take losing well, we've learned that. according to family research council there has been more than 50 attacks against churches and pro-life pregnancy centers in recent weeks. those attacks include firebombings and vandalism. how long until someone gets killed? probably not too long. why is this happening >> president biden: because democratic politicians are encouraging it. they are fomenting an insurrection and doing it on camera. today he said the election was illegitimate. look at this. [chanting]
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>> into the streets! >> into the streets! [chanting] >> tucker: she is a clown but people believe her. mollie hemingway's editor in chief of "the federalist." thank you for joining us. they went pretty fast from denouncing everyone else for insurrection to fomenting insurrection. >> the left's illegitimacy is a way for them to say they don't like the way an election is gone but you are exactly right. the thing that is so frustrating is the department of justice has two standards of justice where people on the right to express with anything, their entire lives are destroyed. when the left engages in decades of ongoing violence based on this view that if they lose power that things are a legitimate, they get away scot-free. this is a very dangerous environment, and to be
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escalating attacks on these pro-life senators, on churches, we also have the failed assassination attempt of justice kavanaugh, this is very dangerous rhetoric to be coming from someone. >> tucker: it's actually horrifying and they are throwing people in jail for questioning the last election. it's time to stop taking them seriously. i hope we see you again. mollie hemingway, thank you. >> tucker: there are still protests underway at the supreme court at this hour. julio process, what are you seeing? >> just about 5 minutes ago a decent sized group of antifa activists marched past the supreme court. they're still in the area and this group of people with them. as you can see behind me there still people out here protesting in front of the supreme court. >> tucker: yeah, antifa showing up. i sense it is going to be a long night for you, julio and we will be checking in with you again.
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thank you for everything. >> of course, thank you. >> tucker: in the wake of antifa showing up at the supreme court, that is awesome. the fact that today, for people who opposed roe v. wade this is the culmination of 50 years of work. by the way, no one ever got rich on the pro-life side. a lot of people in the planned parenthood orbit have gotten rich. nobody on the pro-life side have gotten rich. they are doing it for the right reason. marjorie has been doing it for long time, president of the susan b. anthony pro-life america. she joins us tonight. marjorie, first congratulations. you have been working at a pretty thankless job for a very long time and now roe v. wade has been struck down. what was your gut reaction when this happened? >> incredible joy. everything that has propelled us all these years is to celebrate victories and launch into the next task.
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that is just how it works. you have to see what the next task is. we are all about winning midterms and making sure that states and governors know what to do. they already mostly know what to do but making sure they get the support they need politically, legislatively, spiritually, in all ways and making sure that we are planning to meet the needs of women who don't want that choice to abortion. who don't want to see their children usurped from them, torn limb from limb. they have a heart as a mother does and they want to help their children into the world but they need help that abortion doesn't give them, addressing the whole woman as part of what we do. it's been a big day and a beautiful day and we have a great job ahead of us. >> tucker: i am so glad you said that. there are so many women who get pregnant, i don't want to be pregnant, they are not in a place where they can't raise the child but they don't want to kill the child, they just can't
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be a mom then. you have done so much to help women in that position. why would anybody firebomb or vandalize a center that wants to help pregnant women? >> it is such an ideological commitment to the institution of abortion over the real needs of women. this is what has divided the feminism movement in the late '60s. all the privileges that women should have in the workplace otherwise, but there was a group of women who were of course against abortion. they sought as the exploitation of women, you don't divide women from their children but it really divided the feminist movement. the abortion-centered feminist won, to get away from the beginning of feminism were susan b. anthony has a compatriot knew that this would damage women. no woman wants an abortion. a woman wants an abortion like she wants to gnaw herself out of a trap. that is what wanting it is. what we mean to do in the
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pro-life movement as we've always done is present her with solutions that meet her real needs. if she is addicted to drugs, she needs to graduate from high school, there are other needs that she has, we are there for her in ways that she really needs. not to destroy the life of a child. >> tucker: amen. that's exactly right. that is affirming care, i would say. marjorie, thank you for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: joe biden has been vowing to undermine the supreme court ruling on roe v. wade. he says it is a fundamental human right but joe biden did not always believe that. in 1974 biden said publicly that roe v. wade went too far. he said he "didn't think a woman has the sole right to say what should happen to her body." since nobody creates a baby alone. as recently as 2006 biden said he did not believe abortion was a right, fundamental or otherwise. we have the tape, watch. >> i do not view abortion as a choice and a right. i think it is always a tragedy. and i think it should be rare
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