♪ ♪ ♪ >> so right now, actually, i got switched to -- so i is a 5-hour layover. >> we still did make our connection. >> i got to laguardia airport at 6 in the morning to find out my 8:00 flight is canceled. neil: all right, well, cheer up. although it does seem to be all pain and little gain, americans

are hit with major delays at the nation's a airports, a lot of pain at pump and sky-high groce ifly bills. that has a lot of americans asking this july 4th weekend, when is freedom from these challenges coming? we're tracking all of it with alexis mcadams at missouri's laguardia international airport -- new york's, kelly to grady and stew leonard jr. from his supermarket in norwalk, connecticut. happy fourth, everyone. hope you're dealing with some of the headaches but all of the patriotic positives that comes from this special weekend. i'm neil cavuto. let's get right to it with alexis mcadams at new york's laguardia airport with how the crowds are handling the pressure. >> reporter: hi, neil. that's right, yeah, there's a lot of pressure and people worried if their flight's going to be delay or canceled, but after we've had so many air travel delays, people are not surprised if hair flights are canceled or delayed. take a look, this is at jetblue

area where people are trying to check many. we've been seeing these lines kind of grow throughout the morning. hasn't been too bad just yet, but that doesn't mean that's not going to change later on. here own the east coast, the july 4 holiday weekend started out with hundreds of delays. airlines canceled about 500 u.s. flights while about 5,000 were delayed according to or flightaware. travelers are paying sky sky-high prices, hen many can't get on the airplane. >> we're here for tree hours -- three hours, we're probably going to drive down to mexico and just fly from there. >> reporter: now, the tsa says this weekend will be one of their busiest. they're expecting more travelers to pass through security this fourth of july than back in 2019 before the pandemic. this summer the tsa says their teams will screen more than 2 million people every single day. airlines already struggling to keep up with the big demand this summer because staffing shortages remain a pretty big

issue. today laguardia, over at newark airport in new jersey, they've had more cancellations and delays than any if airport in the country. at the start of this weekend, united airlines cut 50 daily departures out of newark to supposedly help curb delays, but people are upset that that about 12% of their flights are canceled at newark airport. dell that pilots are also -- significant1 pilots are hitting the picket lines, protesting at more than half a dozen major airports, frustrated after they say pilots have been working record amounts of overtime. >> we're hoping the plane is there when we're ready to get on it. that there's a pilot to fly it. >> so we can get out on time, a because we've got to get back and get back to life. >> reporter: once again, a live look at the hines at the jetblue blue check-in at laguardia airport. and, neil, another problem is because all of these flights are packed, people are trying to travel this holiday weekend, if you miss a flight, if there's a delay, if a crew member's sick, it doesn't mean you're going to

get on another plane because they're all full. there's not another seat on another airplane, neil. neil: thank you for that wonderful bit of news, alexis. much appreciated -- >> reporter: very positive. neil: there you go. kelly o'grady's trying to stay positive because what she's witnessing for americans who just want to drive to their destinations is they're going to pay through the nose for that. of course, we're all used to that, but somehow when you see it at the pump, it's different especially on los angeles with a lot of taxes on top of that. kelly, what's the latest? >> reporter: yeah, the high gas price behind me. but with all those flight cancellations, neil, americans are doing something very american this independence weekend, they're road tripping. and can you blame them? people want to make sure they see their families, hay get to those barbecues, and even with near-record-high gas prices, americans are hitting the roads in droves this holiday weekend. aaa says a record 42 million will take a road trip, nearly --

will take a trip close to home. 57 percent higher than pre-pandemic levels. while it is cheaper to fly than drive the, the cost of gas, as you mentioned, is in no way minimal. the national average at $4.82 for a gallon of regular, that will cost you $7 a 5 to fill up a toyota camera. here in california that'll be $99. so we decided to check in with drivers about their plans for the holiday weekend. some plans, of course, are ooh too important to forgo, but not everyone will be hitting the road this weekend. >> i've just got to deal with it, that's all i can do. going to the doctor, going to the grocery store. >> i'll definitely be at costco. so, you know, the discount places and using rewards and sufficient like that. >> exactly. i was going to vegas but gas going up, nah, just cheaper to stay home. >> reporter: while some folks are choosing to drive rather

than fly, it's important to remember that not everyone is able to make that trade-off. but if you are choosing to drive, you can expect a lot of traffic. transportation experts tell us that they're expecting 50% higher travel times and, of course, we are no strangers to traffic here in l.a. neil: no, you are not. 42 americans who are going to be taking -- how do they go back? i don't know. i do know this, there are ways around some of thed madness that you might be experiencing when you try to to get out of town. let's get the from the founder of cheap flights, he knows all the little scents. scott, good to see you -- secrets. thank you for joining us. a lot of people want to get out and have fun, but some of them are still stuck and can't get out. what are some of the first things you recommend they do if they're weight around in the airport? >> one of the first hinges i recommend is if you are at the airport and your flight gets canceled, don't just stand in line waiting to get rebooked.

call up a phone agent, and if the wait is too long when you do call up that phone agent, look up your airline's international phone numbers. you know, american airlines doesn't have offices in the u.s., they've got offices many canada, mexico, the united kingdom, australia. and agents there can handle your reservation just the same as agents in the u.s. but with a tenth of the wait time. so check your phone's international call rates, but if it costs 2 cents a minute, that 15-minute call to canada is one of the best 30 cents you'll spend this week. neil: a lot of people hop online and look to see if you can book another flight, but you're obligated -- unless you cancel quickly -- for the other flight. what's the best advice? >> it's difficult because as mentioned earlier, the number of seats available on planes right now is minimal. you know, airplanes are more full today to than they were pre-pandemic.

other things you can do, don't check a bag. because if you check a bag, not only are you going to have longer lines at the airport, higher probability of missing your flight, but it makes it more difficult to reaccommodate if you end up having to switch flights. make sure you check ahead of time before you get to the airport. you don't want to show up to your flight at jfk in new york only to find out it was canceled and you can then catch a flight out of newark because then you're all the way on the other side of town. lastly, make sure you check your credit card's travel protection. many credit cards will offer you some amount of reimbursement, protection, free hotel night, cab, meals, but only if it's car you used to pay for your flight and only with certain credit cards. go ahead and do a quick search rain see the ways that you are already automatically protected even if you don't have travel insurance. neil: but just brace yourself for a bit of a wait, i guess. scott, thank you very much,

scott keyes, always a way around this. stay calm. i general generally find airports that have the cinnabon at least give you that option. but you're not into sweets, you're kind of on your own. stew leonard joins us right now, very popular grocery store in new york, connecticut, new jersey, tristate area. stew, you know, a lot of people will come to your stores and seek them out because they love the choice and the sampling and all of that. but, you know, no matter where you are on the income range here, you're getting walloped. what are they doing these days? >> well, neil, you know what? i'm seeing all sorts of -- around the country right now like meat prices up 30%. that hasn't happened here. i'm standing in the store right now, we're jamming today. customers are in a great mood, they're pulling me all the time and we're talking. there seems to be, like, pent-up demand. people seem happy in the store

right now. you know, we have not raised our prices that much, you know? i just asked our meat buyer this morning, how much has our meat gone up? he said probably about 5% this fourth of july versus last. so there are some bright spots out there, and i think people want to get out and celebrate for the fourth right now. neil: how do they pivot then? how do you recommend they pith? i'm just afraid the nation might go individual vegetarian, and that would be awful. [laughter] if how are they moving around the different cuts of meat, the choices where it's gotten pretty pricey? >> well, neil, you know, you definitely could see that if you're planning on certaining some gourmet burgers it's really easy to go could be to a different burger and some chicken even though chicken's come up a little bit in price this year. so you can alter what you're going to serve.

you really want to get frugal, you can throw some pizza in there too. but i think what we're feeling right now is just like probably people traveling, they really want to celebrate. this is the last big food event you have before thanksgiving. and it seems like covid is like the flu now. people are out and and about, and we're feeling it right now at stew's, and we felt it on father's day too. neil: so the best advice with a lot of this stuff is don't buy as much stuff. you don't necessarily have to cut back on individual items, but do you really need seven or eight different dishes, what do you think of that? >> well, there's definitely strategies you can have is. and one of them is buy what you need and not what you want. that's one thing. the other thing you can do is shop the specials. there's a lot of specials out there. we have specials every week.

and check your store's app because there's always app deals out there all the time. and the other thing that's really good, buy local right now. like, you know, you're right here in the new york area, there's some local new jersey blueberries that we have. they just came online. the transportation costs to get them to our stores is a lot lower. we can sell them for 50 cents to $1 a package less than the ones we get out of california. neil: that's not too shabby. keep me posted on italian sausage. if that goes through the roof, man, that could be scary -- >> is that your favorite? neil: i'm just i throwing it out there. do you have anything with the sausage? no, that's just -- stew, have a wonderful holiday. >> a nice red sauce. neil: there you go. >> thank you, have a great holiday. i'm staying on base, my daughter's getting ready to have

a baby -- neil: oh, congratulations. it'll be good for the record books. >> it's tough, and it's tough for people working here too because they've got to pay double in their gas tank to get to work. neil: we'll get through this, i just know it. stew -- >> yes, we will, i agree. neil: thank you very much. there is a flipside to, you know, prices going up. for some, for some, the cost of that will be borne by some benefits that could go up, some people lucky enough to see their wages go up. not necessarily to keep pace with inflation, but for social security recipients next year we're getting word that it's very possible the cost of living adjustment for next year could be 11%, close to 11%. if so, that would be the highest cost of living adjustment we've seen in social security history dating back to the 1930s. again, it's pegged more to how inflation is varying in roughly the third quarter, but at the rate we're going, the assumption

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neil: all right, supreme court might have shot could be roe v. wade, but that doesn't mean the president or fellow democrats have done so. they're already looking at pulling the filibuster to try to implant that into law. alexandria hoff is in washington with the latest. >> reporter: well, week was one of first times the president said with certainly that concern

certainty aha he wants the filibuster removed, but he also knows has unlikely in the short term. >> we don't have votes in the senate to change the filibuster on, at the moment. that means we need 2 more votes now -- not now, when we vote, probably after november. more senators and house majority, and the house majority elected in november to get bill onto my desk. >> reporter: he wants midterms to to help him with that. the president said this while speaking virtually with nine governors from democratic states. here's new york governor kathy hochul. >> as long as i'm governor, these rights will not be rolled back. but we're also looking to serve as a destination for other states as a safe harbor. >> reporter: short i have after the meeting, the president left to spend fourth of july holiday at camp david. his green energy plans also suffered a glow when -- blow

when supreme court -- one win came when high court came that the biden administration could cancel trump era remain in mexico policy. republicans warn this will make the situation at the border even more dire, but it's the progressive response when things don't go their way that senator lindsey graham finds just as dangerous. >> five days after after overturning the decision, they want to blow up the senate. these people are crazy. >> reporter: well, as we know, fuel costs weigh heavily on americans holiday weekend, and this week president said we should be prepared to pay for more, quote, as long as it takes for ukraine to defeat russia. neil? neil: well, that could be a hong, long time. al sand drink ya of in the nation's capital. in the meantime, crime is certainly a big issue in the big cities, but there was one incident last week, a 20-year-old mom just taking her baby out in her stroller for a walk along new york's lexington avenue, shot and killed at

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neil: all right, we are getting or word in new york that an ex-boyfriend is being held in what police are calling the stroll ther killing, a 20-year-old woman walking her infant was shot and killed at point-blank range along lexington avenue. it is generally a safe area in manhattan, but it was not that night for her. we'll try to get more updates, the execution of the young mom, again, shot at point blank range. but it did unnerve nicer, again, no change -- unnerve new yorkers. violence popping up in cities across country, but not everyone

in the position of authority is reacting the same way. for example, there's been a move in west hollywood where the city is now taking some deputies off the street the, part of a cost-cutting move. but in the middle of a spike in crime. l.a. police sergeant jaretta with us right now. sergeant, that seems like the worst time to be doing something like this. what do you make of it? >> absolutely, it's the worst time. when i first heard of this, i said, let me get straight, west hollywood wants to cut budget and use unarmed ambassadors? they currently have an increase in crime of 137%. what are these unarmed ambassadors going to do? how are they going to deter crime? are they going to use sling shots to fight off these criminals? it's totally out of control. west hollywood has mostly pickpocketter, violent smash and grabs, follow-home robberies

where the suspects point a gun at innocent families' faces and rob hem at gunpoint. i don't understand. it's these woke politicians who have been fueling this, and they're generally from other parts of the city, and they come to these different cities and they want to impose their beliefs on law-abiding citizens. we've seen what has happened in virtually every liberal city that has been defunded, an increase in crime. when you want to defund the police, you have a horrible d.a. like george gascon, it's a recipe for disaster -- neil: but a lot about this, sergeant, and maybe you can help me with this, the move is to take some deputies off the street. but if you're replacing them with unarmed watchers or whatever you're saying -- and i assume these deputies were armed who were in place -- that's a prescription for trouble. >> oh, absolutely. i can tell you with 137%

increase, it's going to be a 237% increase. it's not fair to the law-abiding citizens that live in that area. and my advice to businesses, tourists, go somewhere else because you will be a victim of crime. neil: how do residents feel, sergeant? i'm sorry, a bit of a delay here, i'm iewdly interrupting. but i could imagining the residents are a little anxious about this. >> well, yeah, absolutely. anyone -- everyone wants to live in an environment that's prix of crime -- free of crime. and when they know that their deputies will be taken off patrol and you'll have foot beats of unarmed ambassadors, crime is going to go through the roof. burglaries, robberies, they should right now be at their city hall talking to their council people demanding that they increase deputies' presence versus eliminate them. neil: sergeant, how do you feel

about this supreme court decision which would allow concealed weapons in cities like your own? the new york city mayor and the governor of new york state not keen of it, they say it's only going to breed more violence. how do you feel about that? >> well, people need to protect themselves. you know, right now we have a shortage of police officers, a shortage of deputies, and residents are walking around the city, and heir being targeted. they're being targeted. they need to be able to protect themselves because it could be a long time before police respond if they are involved in a serious violent crime. so you have to protect yourself. neil: yeah, especially when you've got incidents like these. sergeant, thank you very much for taking the time and reminding us about the issue here. the l.a. police protective league and also a really smart sergeant at that. we'll keep you posted on that.

also keeping your post -- you posted on the president's push to maybe reconfigure things in light of the supreme court rulings that he has condemned is making a mockery of the court itself. that's one thing to say it on foreign soil, it's another thing to blow up the filibuster and maybe pack the court. till yet another thing -- still yet ooh another thing. we're pointing to examine all those things -- we're going to examine all those things after this. ♪ ♪

>> the way in which the process works here in mississippi is our attorney general is given the

responsibility to certify that, in fact, roe v. wade has been overturned. she did so yesterday. there's a 10-day period for that certification to go into effect. not surprising, the wrackson women's health organization -- jackson women's health organization, the same group that sued in the dobbs case, filed a lawsuit yesterday asking our state supreme court to to overturn that decision. it'll go through the process, but we're hopeful that that litigation will be done quickly, we are hopeful that the mississippi supreme court will rule in our favor and allow our trigger law to go into effect. neil: all right. governor tate reeves speaking the day after the supreme court shot down roe v. wade. that was the precedent on this for the better part of 50 years. a couple of dozen states have these so-called trigger laws in effect, half of which have already been implemented where they ban abortion outright. i believe in mississippi's case at the moment of fertilization

or conception. others are a little are less stringent, but this is part of pallout from that decision -- fallout, states that are enacting provisions just as many blue states right now have enacted or had already enacted provisions that would protect women who want to have abortions in those particular states like new york and new jersey, california, etc. the fallout from all of this, former deputy assistant attorney general. what i love about tom, aside from the fact that he's genius, is he politely answers every idiotic question i ask him and never says, neil, that's an idiotic question. good to see you, and here's my first idiotic question. how much oomph do these governors have, like tate reeves, to enforce these provisions with these trigger laws? >> neil, i don't think it's an idiotic question at all, i think it's a brilliant question. and the answer is i think the governors do have pretty strong basis for enforcing these laws. look, we knew this was going to happen in -- if and when roe roe

v. wade were overruled. you threw there was going to be a flurry of -- knew there was going to be a flurry of litigation at the state level because, as you note, a lot of these states had anti-abortion laws on the books, these trigger laws, that were basically just waiting to spring into action the moment roe v. wade was overruled. and anytime you have a situation like that, i can promise you you're going to have litigation about whether these trigger laws are effective, whether they're constitutional. so we'll have a period of litigation now, i think, before everything settles down and the law becomeeds settled -- becomes settled. neil: texas was one of the first states to seize on this, there was a gap where some women who were encouraged to go ahead and get your abortions now, the time's wasting. the supreme court put a freeze on that, the texas supreme court, so to your point, this plays out different ways in different states. how do you think the process is

going to go? >> well, i think we're going to see ate -- a little bit of a light switch in some states like texas where abortion is legal, it's illegal, it's legal, it's illegal. after about a month or to, i -- or two, the state courts will rule on whether these trigger laws are valid or invalid, there'll be additional legislation passed a to the state level. we're going to see a lot of litigation in the weeks and months to come, but then at that point, the spotlight will then turn to the state legislatures to see how they're going to react to this and whether they want to pass either pro-abortion or anti-abortion laws. neil: all right. but if you are a. >>, medical establishment or facility that provides abortions in any one of these states, are you, you know, potentially committing a crime as things stand now? >> you pily couldment -- potentially could. i think it's a determine the nation that that, obviously, would be based on the state in

question, state of the law, and you'd have to consult with your lawyer because things are moving so fast. we saw in texas literally changing by the day or by the hour. so i think the providers, abortion providers, are are in close contact with their lawyers, outside come just to get advice on what's permissible and impermissible. neil: all right. now i'm going to extend this to the area of medications and pills and treatments. i know there are plan b type pills, contraceptives mostly, they're not abortion medications or treatments. but those such treatments, those plan c ones, they could be banned in a lot of these states. i assume advocates of these states where they want to ban abortion will want to ban those, but now we're getting into interstate commerce of those pills going back and forth into these states. how far can legislators go policing that? >> yeah, and that's the real tricky question, neil, and i'm not sure there are clearly-defined lines in the haw right now on that.

because on one hand, you have the supreme court that's basically saying abortion is a question for the states. they want to outlaw it, fine. if they want to legalize it, fine. but then it gets tricky when you're talking about conduct, either the provision of pills or performing an abortion itself, that then starts getting into gray areas. could states really regulate interstate shipments? under the constitution, interstate commerce is a matter of federal regulation. so i think this is going to keep the lawyers very, very busy for the next few months and years just sorting out how far states can permissibly regulate in this area. neil: and once you're regulating in that area, it could be a privacy concern too, right? now all of a sudden people are afraid that they're searching their, you know, internet transmissions or e-mails or even their mailbox. is that a legitimate fear? >> i think it is a legitimate fear. in other words, you know, there certainly are privacy interests along those lines. there's commerce interests, there's equal protection

interests, due process interests, pretty much every provision in the constitution, it seems, is going to be implicated in this changing landscape of abortion law in the years to come. neil: amazing. you know, tom, you ought to stick to to this law thing, because you're very good at it, and i wish you well as you continue on this legal journey. no, i do appreciate it, tom. thank you. >> thank you, neil. neil: tom dupree. we know the political fallout already, the president has said he's open blowing up the filibuster to support, you know, putting many law roe v. wade -- in law roe v. wade and making it the law of the land rather than this confusing, you know, patchwork has he has put it of laws of states that allow abortions and of those that don't. where's all that going? sarah westwood with the washington examiner with us. always good to have you with, thank you coming in. i had chuck grassley here from iowa who's not keen on blowing up the filibuster. but i'm just wondering, this all

goes back to harry reid blowing it up when republicans were blocking barack obama's judge picks and, of course, it was blown up again by mitch mcconnell, essentially blowing it up to allow are for supreme court justice picks. where is this going here? >> yeah, this is not the first pretext that we've heard democrats use, you know? it was voting rights, it was gun control, now we're talking about abortion. but the fact of the matter is they just don't have the votes to change filibuster. there are still 2, at least 2, moderate democratic senators, joe manchin and kyrsten sinema, who are against changing the filibuster. but i think there's is sort of an unspoken understanding that they speak for a number of other more institutionalist democrats whose constituencies are a afraid to go there themselves but who don't necessarily want to change filibuster rules for, you know, in the heat of of the moment over a political issue

like this. so i think manchin and sinema could be speaking for a broader group of democrats because you don't really hear serious conversations in actual congress about changing the fill filibuster because the support for that just is not there. neil: where do you see this going? i know that democrats hope it galvanizes the base especially in states where republican senator -- more of them are up -- could be damaged from just by high democratic turnout. i'm just wondering though protests, while they peaked right after this decision, they since have subsided some. we've got a long ways to go, but what is your sense of the impact this is having? >> yeah. i think the air was let out of the balloon quite a bit by the fact that this opinion draft leaked, you know, months before the decision was handed down by court. a lot of the activism and fundraising that democrats might have been doing right now in the

immediate aftermath was already done starting in march. so this was not, you know, the huge, galvanizing moment that i think democrats were hoping for because it was like playing a movie after everybody knew ending already. and i think it's possible that this could really backfire for democrats if they make in the central focus of their midterm platform because this pro-abortion crowd can very easily move into some pretty extremist territory. in the democrats want to make this a major plank of their platform, then vulnerable democratic candidates are going to have to answer for why the pro-abortion movement supports unpopular things like late term abortion which is only supported by 17% of americans. democrats foisting something that's potentially dangerous for vulnerable democrats onto the whole party if they make that a central feature of their messaging. neil: i wonder what it comes down to in the end is the economy, stupid, right? that has not changed. no matter the gravity of this decision and how it polarizing

people, but in the end, it's the economy. >> that's right. joe biden has shown signs of starting to recognize that. he's been talking about it more, not really doing anything to ameliorate the problems people are having economically, but he's at least confronting that more directly. democrats in congress and running for statewide offices are still grasping around for any issue to talk about, because they don't have really any strong idead s to address why americans are feeling so much economic pain right now. and that just deepens the sentiment that democrats are out of touch with what most americans care about. t not abortion, it's not gun control, it is when they can afford, you know, their homes and their groceries and their gas, and democrats till don't have a unified message on that. neil: yeah. they see that economic stuff, they're reminded every day. every time they go to the gas pump, or the grocery store. there might be something to what you say, sarah. have a safe weekend, my friend. >> you too. neil: in the meantime, we are

celebrating our nation's independence, and it comes in the face of a poll that shows a lot of people are bumming out on this country and where it's going. we thought we'd exemployer that. we've got alabama -- explore that. we've got abby hornacek joining us soon out of boston which started the movement. they also gave us the boston red sox, and as a yankees fan -- but, but -- after this. >> thank you for your service. what does the fourth of july mean to you? >> for our family we feel like we're given a lot of opportunities, so it's an opportunity to celebrate that freedom.

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neil: all right, only days after russian soldiers were strafing a shopping mall in ukraine, the search now continues for survivors of a separate russian strike on an apartment building in odesa. the late from nate foy in lviv. nate. >> reporter: neil, good

morning. ukrainian officials are alleging a new strike just morning in the city that's near odesa, and it's the second time that they have been attacked in the past four days. the first strike did cause civilian casualties. today ukrainian authorities say no one else has been killed in this morning's attack but, certainly, that was not the case in odesa, as you mentioned. 21 people were killed in a russian missile strike mt. early morning hours. this happened at a recreation center as well as an apartment complex. this happened hours after the nato summit ended where the alliance announced plans to add sweden and finningland. here's president biden -- finland. here's president biden talking about nato expanding its borders. >> putin thought he could break the trans-atlantic alliance. he tried to weaken us. he expected our resolve to fracture, but he's getting exactly what he did not want. we're more united than ever. and in addition to finland and sweden, we'll be stronger than

ever. >> reporter: neil, new video today of the fight in donbas. the key city continues to be the final ukrainian holdout in the luhansk region. russian officials claim they're making progress around outskirts of the city, but ukrainian officials insist their defense remains. unfortunately, neil, what also remains is the suffering of civilians caught in the middle. listen to. >> translator: tell me, please, when will this war end in when? i have no strength at all. when will it end? tell me, please. >> reporter: neil, you certainly feel for the people in the east. they are living without basic necessities. a much better situation here in lviv, although there are growing concerns that belarus may invade from the north. the mayor of lviv today meeting with military officials and posting on telegram, quote: the decision to to attack revive -- lviv will be last decision in the life of these monsters. that's if that happens, and it's

certainly something we will keep tracking here on the ground. back to you. neil: all right, nate. be safe, my friend. foy many lviv, ukraine. we'll give you more information as it becomes available on the latest attack. in the meantime, back in this country celebrating independence and how lucky we are on this side of the world, but not all people feel way. pride in who we are and what we are, that's something that abby hornacek is seeing firsthand for herself in boston where it all began. hey, abby. >> reporter: hey, neil. absolutely, we are here in boston, and to your point, we wanted to talk -- walk around and ask people what makes them proud to be an american. you know what? good news, some people even got emotional because they love america that much. take a look. what makes you proud to be an american? >> oh, gee, oh. i, i, i'm speechless for that. >> i get emotional.

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♪ neil: you know, we're a nation, apparently, pretty bummed. when asked are you proud of the country today, we're seeing about 39% answering, yes, to that. keep in mind that that just, you know, not even a decade ago, a little bit more than a decade ago, that was at 69%. what's going on here? the number keeps going down, down and down. well, it might be in the way you word it because some people certainly still believe in the country and are proud to be and live in this country. and and abby hornacek decided to find out for herself in the

birthplace of our freedom movement, many boston, and i don't think they're quite so jaded, abby. [laughter] >> reporter: neil, they are not. you know, i saw that poll, and it made me so sad. so i said, look, why don't we walk around harbor fest, which was yesterday -- it runs for three days, it's the largest fourth of july festival in the country -- and ask people why are you proud to be an american. this is what they had to say. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: why are you proud to be an american in. >> in my opinion, the united states is like winning the lottery for something better than a million dollars. >> it just really looks back at how far we've come and there's so much to be grateful. >> well, it's freedom of america, you know in this is a free country. >> reporter: and you're air force, thank you for your service. what because the fourth of july mean to you? >> it's a big deal for us, for our family. we feel like we've been given a

lot of opportunities to celebrate that freedom. >> it's the land of the free, and i'll never take take the for granted the freedom to worship how we want to and just be around diversity and different types of people. >> it's the one time of the year that we can all come together as americans. >> well, to me, it means that i can celebrate my freedom, you know? freedom to be who i am, you know? freedom to do what i want, freedom to come and go as i please. >> greatest country in the world, that's what they say. i'm lucky to have grown up in such a prosperous place, absolutely. yeah. >> reporter: i don't get star struck easily, but i just came across john adams -- >> there is no finer form of government than that which is republican. >> reporter: hey. [laughter] there have been a lot of it this

weekend, that's's what they said when they pushed the tea overboard. i walked around, and you're right, people weren't as jaded. one woman got emotional, she could barely speak. and those are the people that we have to remember when we see those polls, that there are people out there who talk about our freedoms, the men and women fighting for that freedom and what it truly means to be an american. neil: i think you're darn right about that. abby, that was beautiful. i look forward to more reports from boston. she is busy. abby, thank you. by the way, our entire network are going to be set -- celebrating in this country's big birthday. we've got you covered all weekend long. abby with, of course, live in boston harbor throughout the weekend. tomorrow night 10 eastern time, pete hegseth, rachel campos duffy, will cain at west point. they're going to get music from the west point band, epic fireworkings. then monday at 8 p.m., fox news

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road. you know how they came up with the 42 million, whether it's more or fewer. a lot of people taking to the roads even in the face of higher gas taxes and gas prices and plenty see that first hand for themselves. >> good morning, the fireworks are still a few days away but this holiday weekend travel is off to a booming start despite inflation, despite high gas prices. $6.59 a gallon at this gas station near santa monica above the national average. about $4.82. with the fourth of july this year falling on a monday and setting up a three day weekend, aaa predicts nearly 48 million people will travel at least 50 miles or more from home and the vast majority, 42 million americans taking a road trip and that's a new record, part of the reason? let's see what's happening at the airport. the chaos with delays and

cancellations and feel like having their own car will give them more control over their itinerary. >> they know when and where they are going to stop, it's a little bit more economical for folks and they can decide maybe to change their plans on a last women so it's not hard to alter plans and make different changes last minute whereas flying, taking a cruise, a train, there's a lot of other factors that may impact how travel and you may even lose out. >> just in time for the road trip, half a dozen states just raised their gas taxes including california bringing the average to $6.25 a gallon. probe tip, if you are among millions hitting the road, police will be conducting sobriety checkpoints and most dangerous cities.

keep that in mind along with the best time to drive, get out the door as soon as possible, noon to 9:00 p.m. would be the worst time to travel according to aaa. now if you're heading back, if you can leave monday while people are still celebrating the holiday, you can expect less congestion and a safer time on the road. buckle up, drive safe to have a happy fourth. neil: all good rules to live by, appreciate it. in los angeles, on all that. for those of you who notice, when you get to the pump, look at it this way, it's down from what it was. we are down about 17 cents from where we were a little more than a few weeks ago. gas still expensive and the biden white house physician will make it less so. we are getting word administration is seeking to block offshore drilling along the atlantic and pacific coasts. this is also limiting expansion, we are told, separately along the gulf coast. along alaska's coast. the impact of all this could mean options for drillers will

be fewer and further between since that's exactly the source of the problem. u.s. oil and gas association president is joining us right now. this is latebreaking development, shocking development but what you make of it? >> 6:00 p.m. on a friday afternoon the fourth of july weekend, it's not surprising they would drop this. you are right, he described it perfectly, it's going to limit the offshore potential we have in the gulf of mexico and other areas. as we ran through last night, we don't anticipate any new leasing coming until 2025 given how long the plans take to execute. that's the biden administration's first term. neil: i always tell people i'm not an apologist anymore than i am the administration, given the business to make money and that these levels you can make a lot of money getting out a lot more oil to the world, demand is such

you need more supply to get to anything that would touch those prices and you can't do it. the administration, as you know, you have such purpose and you are not taking advantage, why should they grant you new ones? >> the answer is that particularly doing work on federal onshore and offshore is a long game and it's capturing, offshore is probably offshore capturing from the time you acquire it to developing it. onshore anywhere from 180 days to five years. from the onshore industry perspective, the of administration announced yesterday they were ahead of the trump administration and their administration. they had actually processed and approved permits. the reality is that's fine but they are a year behind, they should have hit the number/or if you want to keep the counts going and the companies ahead of their rigs.

i would count the plan in this permit announcement yesterday, participation trophy type announcement which is we appreciate you for showing up but the reality is you're still a year behind where you need to be. neil: what's on is we are behind even the most environmentally favorite countries on the planet that are now looking at gas and other more energy supplies to help. germany leading that charge. yet, we are not. something is wrong about that. can you hear me, tim? >> i lost you, sorry there but i would say we are behind, for sure. the reality is this is a problem with a somewhat schizophrenic policy where president says one thing america sees another. neil: i apologize for that, tim stewart of the u.s. oil and gas

association president here. to put it in perspective when we talk about the pressures on the industry here and pressure on folks, most countries even though they are very much addressing climate change, our opening up the spigot and alternative energy sources but for them, traditional fuel like traditional on the gas, the deal with the pumps we've had and that is something we are not doing in this country so i try to keep the politics out of it and look at it from the right or left but not red or blue but just green if you are in the inner's energy countries, they are just green, nothing wrong with that. they stand a good opportunity making a lot more by being able to drill for a lot more. that is the equation in the world right now and it's leading to still higher prices. we are also on top of this trend going on, everyone but yourself to blame, not you, america but we hear from the president.

a war in ukraine, energy crisis, this started long before the got into or anywhere near ukraine. then the airline, believe it or not, blaming the weather for so much of their problems, not themselves it is a trend. after this we'll expand on that. ♪♪

the bottom line is, the reason why gas prices are up is because of russia. russia, prussia, russia. the reason why the food price is at this is because of russia. russia now amounting ukraine to get out of ukraine.

neil: the maybe the notion you keep saying something people will buy it as tax and are not here not the president more than any other president but it's a pattern of behavior like someone else, anybody but themselves are the problem. biden said in russia but the run-up is gas, gas, gas. it occurred before the first russian soldiers got anywhere near ukraine. prices have gone up 50% for a gallon of gas by november 21. i use that date because that was the time russian soldier started moving in the area. it would be another couple of months technically before the invasion would begin and we be up another 20% from those numbers but most of that occurred prior to russia but again, this president blaming the outside development and forces for what's happening. a familiar pattern and blaming your predecessors. joe biden is not donald trump, donald trump field with it with

barack obama, he did not get through the depression. it extended to the airlines these days blaming the weather in a variety of other factors, delays right now going on day after day, thousands of flights canceled or delayed day in and day out and something is getting better. it's like me blaming everything for being slightly overweight. maybe it's a bad example. welcome back, everybody. let's look at the impact of all of this and unwillingness to take on responsibly for what's happening around you. a psychotherapist joyce is right now, a good read on how we are pointing fingers, it is nature, it's good to have you. i always think we are a forgiving and we know we are all human so for president admitted i screwed up like kennedy did for the big disaster, he could

have blamed the on his predecessor, he didn't. i think he was surprised when he admitted it was on him, it went up and his father said this more often. i kid to make the points that sometimes we are guarded and unwilling. >> yeah, it certainly can be a problem. we know blaming happens because people get defensive, at least at an individual level. people get defensive. neil: what do you mean by that? met they feel guilty, they want to maintain an identity of perfection and when you are victim, you are powerless to make that change but what is interesting is when you look at blaming politically, it's slightly different because political blaming can work. it's scapegoating whoever you are pointing your finger toward, it can be voting patterns, it

can influence what policies are created so it's closely linked a little bit to more of a spin, how do we spin this situation so we are not taking responsibility but can also influence certain policies and ideas we want to put out there. neil: you are the expert, i think that qualifies me to read a prompter, i have another thought on this, if we live in this society, much more than we ever have in the past, i think if you admit culpability or partial blame, even partial blame, you are on the hook and no one wants to be on the hook and maybe that plays a factor here. >> yes, certainly there are financial reasons and every president has certain relationships with the public is slightly different so that also needs to be assessed.

it would be nice if we lived in a world where people can take responsibly but there's so many other factors to be considered, like the law but when we do take responsibility or provide some kind of solution, that's what we are looking for from leaders because we know once we live in that victim state, it doesn't work long-term because ultimately we want to feel like we have control over our world and that's what we want and need and why we vote for our leader. we know the world has problems and it's their job to fix it. neil: i know we put tremendous amounts on the president and i get that it is a little too far, you can't just snap your fingers and the problem goes away but i feel the pattern here, now with the airlines and others blaming outside factors, i was in business years ago and i would hear sometimes retailers lousy

earnings would say it rained a lot that month but they never credit the sun if it was good weather. i always thought there is this predisposition to blame someone else but we are careful about going too far with that so what is your best advice? >> it is a form of protecting ourselves and i suppose presidents do it and companies do it as well and i think at one time it makes sense to say here's what we think the problem is but here's how we can resolve the problem. here's where we feel the solution exists so it's a comforting message and on an individual level, a transfer from being a victim to every thing in the world then you can start to make real changes that are impactful. neil: and work with the people you are pointing your fingers at. good advice, so good to see you,

thank you. >> great seeing you, too, neil. neil: by the way, it is a thyroid problem, my weight. that's a myth. in the meantime, was going on at the border right now, remain in mexico policy that's going away and how that particular supreme court decision is creating a firestorm at the border. the latest, next.

neil: all right, lights out at the border right now, droned lying over eagle pass, texas. not many people for the time being but expect that to change and markedly so in light of this remain in mexico policy we had in effect, effectively dumped by the supreme court one of the few

high court decisions in this time, we dropped this policy but that would mean migrants of the border would now have to have the cases adjudicated back to the united states, a job that's already pretty risky and very dangerous for those at the site. already we had 518 migrants deaths year today including the 53 who were found in a trunk and essentially suffocated. there have been others to put in perspective, all of last year, all of last year, there were 566 so almost up to that level. we got another half year to go. chris knows the problem very well and joins us on the phone with the texas department of public safety, kind enough to join us now. chris, good to have you. we are looking at these drone shots here, so far, relative calm along the border but i think you and you folks don't see that lasting very long.

>> good morning, thanks for having me on again. it's just the calm before the storm. it's disappointing what took place with the supreme court hearing, it's a loss for the american people and a win for the federal government, it's a loss for the american people. we are told they are taking way law enforcement, border patrol agents trying to help mitigate and slow down this mass flow of immigrants coming across the border but now it's taken away and this allows the federal government to have more leverage to continue to encourage and incentivize immigrants coming across our borders. one thing that is concerning to me that we haven't talked about, all the migrant camps in mexico right now just sitting miles on the border. for the most part, the migrants are waiting because they want to wait for title 42 to be completely rescinded and now with the respective policy, it gives them more motivation and

encourages them to cross the border into the united states so we got to keep a close eye on that, there are thousands and the can't now along the border, it's concerning and we are trying to keep a close eye on that to see what takes place with this remain in mexico policy completely canceled. neil: i'm curious, what is mexico doing? i know they were promised economic incentive for those coming from the southern border of mexico, places like guatemala and nicaragua and what have you to get economic incentive to stay in mexico. i don't know how many have taken advantage of that but obviously they are in these camps, not taking them up on the offers, they are trying to find a way to get here, right? >> that's correct, we've heard that not just the law enforcement side but they've been out there with caravans walking with the caravans taking

them out there, many times walking with caravans and talking to them on the ground. the vast majority want to make it to the united states, that's the primary goal, to get to the united states. they have this initiative and signed historic agreements with mexico but again, their hands are tied as well when they have the president of mexico pretty much in favor of these immigrants making it to the united states and i believe the consequences, they are trying to hold them back or put something in place, a policy in place that would keep the migrants from making the long treacherous journey and dangerous criminals. it's been difficult not only for the government in mexico but at the same time also it's difficult for us as well in the united states trying to stop the flow of immigration taking place in border patrol not getting the support or tools they need, another example, another tool

that could help mitigate the flow of mass migration. all we have left is title 42 so when that is completely gone, not going to be sustainable. we been able to manage it right now but i can tell you when title 42 is this minute, it's not going to be manageable, it's going to be hard to sustain the mass flow of migrants coming across the border and dealing with the criminals as well. neil: is the administration or anyone in light of this, they must be in the same reality is you, they will need to get the migrants even if they are processed or adjudicated on the american side of the border, how many years that could take to resolve the weather those handling's would stick around to be there once the case has to be earned. have you been promised anything else? >> we haven't.

as far as the state of texas, we have not. everything we've been doing since last year when we started operations lone star, initiative wash by abbott, it's state funding, it's state funds, the manpower, the structure of the border wall, that's state-funded. as we continue the operation in light of the places in san antonio, mass casualty deaths of the migrants, now we are starting to have manpower on top of of what we have been providing so these are state assets we are providing to essentially do the job of the federal government because they have abandoned american people and we are constantly having to step in as a state to fill the gaps. neil: a galvanized migrant population with the green light to move north. i don't know how you do it, chris but you do it and bravely. with the texas department of

public safety, we will stay on this issue. it's a very real, forget about human rights issue, it's a life and death issue. we have a lot more on that and also what's happening with our economy, forget about companies slowing down on their hiring. now the are outright firing. it's one thing to say we are going to rescind a job, another to say we will resend your job.

's neil: all right, the second half of the year end how things go. one of the worst we've seen. since 1970 when richard nixon was president and if you look at 1962 when john f. kennedy was president, a lot of people say the second half given yesterday activities taking things off maybe looks more promising, a

number of companies have already acting on pairing there workforce, at least slowing hiring but it's one thing on promises you make to graduate with job offers and suddenly take them back, it's another in the case to say 8000 of you will lose your jobs. where are we going there? let's go to aaron, see eo, economic advisor to presidential and emily, co-chief investment a just and management. emily, i would like to begin with you on your take on the beginning layoffs, usually starts with a few, it expands to many. where do you see things going? >> unusual to see the labor markets so soon and an economic cycle. we are experiencing late cycle. we should have had in 2020 except we saw massive stimulus and response to the pandemic so

essentially what we did was made the economy look a lot better than it actually was, putting lipstick on the economy and companies responded to that, they ran to hiring and inventory. now there's a broad recognition one time stimulus like that isn't sustainable. companies are now adjusting to that making it work in the other way. we expect on a plumber to pick up from this is just the beginning of it and the implications prevent policy. right now they are solely focused on price stability, half of their mandate taking the gloves off and elevated inflation but we think it's like a teeter totter, the next year will be more focused on unemployment. neil: what's interesting as well as when you get this data, factories around the globe, the financial times extending on this not too long ago as well, revealing weakening demand, that could be very impelling in and

of itself, weakening demand usually means soon to be paired labor force. what you see happening? >> yes, unfortunately weakening demand inflation coming down, that is the goal but people have to expect inflation, you have to complain about one or the other so with lower inflation will be lower economic activity so there are going to be those points and technology companies a little more exposed because they did see incredible growth over the past year. neil: then that will come up, steve but i'm curious, a lot of people yesterday on the notion a ten year bond was creating well

under 3%, 2.89%, well from the three and a half% by a little more than a week and a half earlier. the reason i touch on that is maybe the federal reserve, maybe with them markets were counting on will have to raise rates but doing it because things are going to slow down, it's a double edged sword. >> i think we are already in a recession, the numbers just came out a couple of days ago in atlanta saying gdp declined by 2% in the second quarter, down to 1% decline in the first quarter. my only thing is we are in recession right now, i think the fed has been way behind the curve, feel. i've been looking at this for nine months, they should be raising interest rates faster and what i think is important, how do we avoid a crash landing?

in addition to the fed raising interest rates, we need supply-side policies, reducing taxes to end the war on american oil and gas and increase production. unfortunately, i'm seeing none of that out of the white house. they are pointed in the rock other direction in europe, all they talk about windmills as a solution or economic problem i have to say i've been pessimistic about the economy in the second half of this year. long-term i'm still pretty bullish on the u.s. economy. neil: emily, let me ask you about that because these airports, tax broadway shows, tax restaurants, it doesn't white guide to the notion whether it's inflation in the environment, not across the board at least and i'm wondering whether there's more strength here than we give the economy credit. clearly retail sales have

slowed, consumer sentiments reveal pretty much what steve outlined, we are bummed out about this sustainably but is there something here we are not appreciating that is a better foundation than generally? >> the services side of the economy is the one area in addition to labor markets still holding up pretty well, that's usually the last to drop the soap we expect a delay in terms of the challenges there. if we are in a recession based on two consecutive quarters negative jd gdp growth, we might be halfway there already. over the last 100 years, the average% last 12 months, i think those exceed from investment effective to figure out what hurts the market or price for a recession and which parts aren't. you look at the s&p 500, we are down in a bear market down over 20% the average bear market since world war ii sees a

decline of 34%. we may already be two thirds of the way there. you look at the market and you look at bond yield earlier, it's not recession. usually when economic growth is going, investors place for high quality assets with low grades which bond yields down. right now in 2022, bond yields have been moving up so we would actually be looking opportunistically, this massive backup and bond yields, 4% owning high quality bonds right now. we'll take it all day long as economic growth is decelerating, the locations in the market and the performance for the rest of the year. neil: it's interesting about the 100 year period, people are not covering the first session years ago and it's amazing.

erin, let me ask you about something just mentioned there with higher yields in some cases, if i could flip it around and say it's bad for stocks because you invest in a security that is protected. it beats the role the dice and socks. right? >> right. the only thing to her points, we have been seeing the stock market hit harder and you look at whether prepared for recession the prepared, it's built into the prices. those prices that has been more reflected in the markets. if there is a recession, you're probably going to get hit less hard on the equity side toward the bond market just because there's so much more pessimism and it's more emotional but it's also because we have a lot of the information in one of the things that's very different is

we are probably going to be a technical recession, the employment is very strong. services are doing well so it's not like a lot of recessions where you get high unemployment but we do have to take all of the components into account and be ready to turn on a dime because it might be short-lived, quick recession and slowly strike to navigate and turn the economy around. neil: i think the interest rates will go higher, that's keep raising rates, where you see rates down around one and three quarters and 2% by the end of the year, the rates, the federal reserve. >> the higher interest rates will be a very big negative for the economy is especially for stocks. it is true the average recession only last a year but let's not forget the 1970s was just one

long decade-long recession so when you don't get the policies right, that's my big concern right now, i want to see a pro economic growth, pro-business policies of the administration, let's and the war on business and get the economy going again. neil: we are watching closely, i want to thank you very much. have a good fourth don't get cheap on the hotdogs. [laughter] will get by but don't do that. thank you all very much in the meantime here, a guy who knows how to pivot in the face of higher prices, he's back with us again. we used to have super bowl big family gatherings, he's back again on the same set, very important and how you can get through these high prices. plus, a good chef. after this. ♪♪ ♪♪

as you get ready to fire up the grill for your rely july 4 festivities, a lot of place in the country, it's hard outside, just saying. the nations whether breast throughout the entire country now on the box whether center, adam, good to see you. what are we looking at. >> as you said, really hot across the country but maybe the biggest whether story is topical storm problem off the coast of the carolinas, very popular destination over the holiday weekend, probably a bit of a soggy one, wash up for some folks. here's the forecast of tropical storm, went up 40 miles an hour over the outer banks from the popular places to be in the next couple of weeks in the region, no surprise receipt tropical storm watches and warnings off myrtle beach all the way up the coast of north carolina likely

lingering into sunday. here's your future forecast and most of this activity is offshore, typically with these storms all of the dangers whether off to the right hand side we are seeing that there with the heaviest rain and strongest went over the water. still soggy along the coast you see high numbers out of the water so not going to be an issue. further in the your clear conditions dealing with this, you see it move on through. went likely along the coast, maybe 25 to 30 miles an hour mostly still enough to make the beach not as enjoyable. for the rest of the country, outside of the eastern half of the country, today's forecast what temperatures are warm, upper 80s, a lot of rain across the eastern half of the country, mostly clear conditions after several daily soggy days leaving your forecast on independence day monday we looking at rain across the portions of the southeast showers across the midwest and you talk about the heat and boy are we seeing it across the

country and 90s, 101 in dallas. up and down the east coast, mostly sunny conditions, temperatures lingering in the mid 80s but it's tropical storm season so call it is the big story. neil: thank you very much. following all of this at the box whether center, we have a lot more coming up to help you manage higher prices. without sacrificing space. he's next. ♪♪ refrigerator with customizable and changeable door panels. this 4th of july find the color that fits your style. announcer: type 2 diabetes? discover the power of 3 in the ozempic® tri-zone.

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the good news is independence day. bad news, if you like to celebrate by eating, it will cost you more. the end of the world here, we got my buddy, chet, joining us right now, he makes sense of it how we can eat a little less extensively and i love having him on except when i learned he had a couple of recommendations he was going to pass along, one of them being if i got this right, you estimate six to 8 ounces of meat a person unless the guests is neil cavuto where you should estimate 60 ounces but is that how you really factor it out? >> sometimes it works there, neil. it is usually six to 8 ounces, everybody, people are coming and

just be smart about it in the best way is to calculate what you are going to buy and serve as maybe who have it printed out already for your guests. neil: when it comes to different types of meat, how you play this? >> don't try to be a hero. a quarter ounce of filet mignon, those are all dutiful meat but you could spend a third to a half on sirloin steak or even a filet mignon, tenderloins. when you put together something like this, i'm putting together portions, it doesn't matter what meat you use, your guests won't

know. neil: i put the good stuff aside for myself usually, you know? let me ask you, i hear all of these issues and you touched on the small portion think but that's that mean fewer dishes? how do you handle that? >> everybody wants to see extravagant, not the big parties, my fear is like a brazilian steakhouse, bring out the cheap stuff, sirloin and chicken and the chips and salads. as the day goes on, people get more full, then you can bring out the other stuff. neil: i do it all together and that's the problem right there. i am alarms though, i told you

last year but now it's gaining traction, healthy eating and all of the sudden people are going for veggies, they actually do them on the grill but having said that, you're not going that route? >> i'm not giving up on meat. but this is not the year, throw this on the grill. you could put mayonnaise. still a vegetable, it's still not meet but it's quite delicious. we're going over to a party. baby portobello mushrooms and

onions. you can mix in whatever you want in there. you get some dressings. neil: how do you make your own dressing? >> all you do is put some vinegar and oil, fresh herbs and it's much more delicious. neil: you separate? >> we don't at our house. [laughter] neil: any other advice? costs keep going up, i don't know when they will stop growing up but you seem to pivot back and forth but you don't go all in on one kind of meat.

>> if you are willing, don't leave it on any longer than needed. ask your guests to bring something. neil: i got it. i don't mind because i love you, listen to the chef. food for thought. ♪♪ to be able to button your jacket and not worry about it blowing up. -(laughs) -go to golo.com to lose weight and get healthier.

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