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reports" this monday. president biden arriving back in the united states to a whirlwind of economic troubles. hello, i'm john roberts. guess who else came back from saudi arabia. >> jacqui: hundreds of families lining up at food pantries, many look for help in a time of historically high prices. gas prices soaring along with grocery costs, there are many seeking free food for the first time and more are arriving on foot. >> john: as now polling shows 31% of voters approve on biden's job on the economy and only 25% approve of his handling of inflation. and just 17% rate the economy positively. that's the lowest in nearly ten years. all of this offering a grim outlook for democrats in november. >> jacqui: texas senator john cornyn is here with the fallout over the trip to saudi arabia, and the economic crisis. peter doocy, and what good news

is the white house pointing to, peter? >> peter: great question, jacqui. to the point that you just made about increased traffic at food pantries, remember, it's only been about a month since president biden told us that was something that happened during covid lockdowns and that he would make sure did not happen again. >> just remember, remember those long lines of cars stretching waiting for a box of food in the trunk. that's what we inherited. >> peter: saudi leaders are saying when president biden was overseas and had the whole gulf council in the same room, he never appealed to them all at once to produce more oil. but, top white house economic advisors are saying he did not really have to. >> inflation, which is unacceptably high, clear out of the gate, went up 1.3% in june. again, unacceptably high

increase. half of that increase is energy prices alone. now, since then the price of gas has come down $0.50 a gallon. >> peter: as the white house waits for international trends to drive gas prices down, republicans are telling the president he's got an easy solution here in the united states. >> rather than travelling to saudi arabia he should be travelling to texas or north dakota and he should be talking about asking our country to ramp up supply instead of begging and bowing down to the saudis and asking them to bump up their supply. >> peter: we don't expect to hear from the president about inflation or high gas prices or anything else because he does not have any public events on the schedule today. jacqui. >> jacqui: thanks so much. >> john: texas republican senator john cornyn, came back from a visit to the border on friday, but your assessment of the president's trip to saudi

arabia. he gave new legitimacy to salman, looking for it, but did not bring back much for the united states in return. >> paraphrase an old song, looking for love in all the wrong places. if he wants to try to appease mohammed bin salman after some of the things saudi arabia has done, he could expand american energy production and solve the same problem. as we know, it's not just a matter of investment, it's also infrastructure. things like the keystone xl pipeline and our friends in europe are finding out, having been dependent on vladimir putin for so long, it takes time to transition to diversity of sources. so, it was a little embarrassing, frankly, to watch the president go over there and essentially hat in hand and ask for something that we could produce right here in america.

>> jacqui: what do you think we gained from this, aside from oil, if the purpose is to fill the leadership vacuum so that china and russia don't step in and he always talks about leading by the power of our example, how is he doing that by fist bumping with a murderous dictator and leaving israel with two very different views about the best way to counter iran. >> for all the criticism of the previous administration by the biden administration, frankly the biden administration is sending mixed signals. we need to try to build on things like the abraham accords, which has seen an unprecedented amount of cooperation between israel and the gulf states and we need to continue to keep the coalition against iran, the major threat not only to regional but to world peace, with aspirations for a nuclear weapon. i thought it was -- it wasn't -- it wasn't -- i would not give it an a, put it that way.

>> john: and iran says they have the capability but don't know if they are going to or not. and biden has been trying to sell the nation on the putin price hike, the reason why you are paying so much for gasoline is because of putin's war in ukraine. a new poll shows voters are not buying that. who do they blame, biden and biden policies, 31%, russia and ukraine 20%, oil companies gouging, the president also blames at 14%. so this appears to be, senator, a problem that falls squarely at the door of the white house. >> they don't understand supply and demand and come out of the post covid recession where the economy is demand j more energy for people to live their lives and pursue their livelihood, there's got to be more supply, and the president, as i said, is looking in the wrong places. he's looking to the saudis, he's looking to the russians, even though the same time he's telling people we don't want you

buying more russian oil and gas. so that leaves the obvious solution here in america. in order to appease his progressive base, who believe we can transition to wind turbines and solar panels tomorrow, frankly i think he's, they are living a fantasy. >> jacqui: you just got back from the border, and you see any space to come together with democrats and get things done on this. >> probably a year ago i introduced a bill with senator sinema, border state senator, a democrat, and another called the border state bipartisan solutions act, thinking if things got too bad the biden administration might reach out and sort of take a lifeline and begin the conversation. unfortunately it's nothing but crickets, and we have seen 3 million border uncounters since

the biden administration came into office. last year, 108,000 americans died of drug overdoses, primarily coming across the southern border and some point of to reach the sad conclusion that they don't care. they care more about trying to keep their political base happy at the same time with the open border policy that's dangerous, not just to border states like mine, or border communities, but literally every state has become a border state. >> john: on track for more than 2 million illegal migrants this year. brandon judd will be joining us later this hour. thanks for dropping by. approach it. >> jacqui: well, jury selection underway in the trial of steve bannon, two counts of contempt of congress for defying a subpoena from the january 6th committee. david spunt is live outside the federal courthouse in washington. is this going to be a quick trial? >> david: yeah, you know,

jacqui, it is going to be a quick trial. federal prosecutors will lay out the arguments in front of the judge and jury in about a day, maybe longer, feasible jury selection could take longer. right now, they have about six jurors seated, waited to get 22 total so they have a bit more to go, but the opening arguments could begin later today, possibly as soon as tomorrow. this comes as the january 6th committee continues to churn on and present new evidence to the public, primetime hearing coming up later this week. steve bannon, you see him arriving outside federal court this morning to face those two misdemeanor charges of contempt of congress, meaning he ignored the subpoena to appear before the january 6th committee last year. bannon did so because he was under executive privilege, meaning he was essentially shielded by former president trump. but the justice department under garland said nice try. bannon left the white house in

2017, meaning at the end of 2020 and early 2021 he was years gone from the administration and not covered under executive privilege. the january 6th committee says it has proof bannon and trump spoke on january 6th of 2021, the day bannon said hell is going to break loose. the president said in a letter he waived the privilege, however prosecutors say he never had the privilege and private citizen, jacqui, long gone from the white house. >> great irony that bannon had privilege invoked by the former president, he believed that was valid, and i think the letter from president trump now makes that clear he did invoke it invalid, so he's brought up on criminal charges now for respecting that privilege. >> david: not clear if bannon will take the stand. someone the last time

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>> jacqui: a lone gunman shot and killed at least three people while wounding two others in indiana. happened at a food court inside a mall just 14 miles south of indianapolis. an armed bystander who was legally carrying a handgun was able to stop the gunman by shooting and killing him. police are thanking a 22-year-old civilian for his quick action and heroism. >> john: new bodycam footage released of the school shooting in uvalde, texas, and found systemic failures and agregious response to the attack. casey, how quickly did police get there that day? >> the initial police response was quite rapid.

the gunman entered robb elementary school back here at 11:33 in the morning, and the very first police officers were on the scene within minutes. >> ok, guys. he's on, inside this building, we have him contained. he's going to be in the building on the west side of the property. careful with the windows. >> a warning, the video you are watching is disturbing. you can hear the officers trying to determine where the shooter is, and then scanner traffic saying shots fired, shots fired. by 11:37, the suspect fired at the officers outside the classroom and they retreated as more and more cops arrived from multiple agencies. >> child on the phone, multiple victims. >> a child called, they have victims in there, called 911. >> some 15 minutes later and you

hear the information trickling down about children calling 911 trapped inside that 4th grade classroom, still no decisions are being made as the clock ticks. while outside dramatic rescues are taking place, pulling terrified children through windows and getting them to safety. it was not until 12:50 until a border patrol tactical team breached the classroom and killed the suspect. one hour, 17 minutes after the horror began. >> they call themselves -- oh, we didn't have a leader. protocol is, if you've got a gun you get there, you go for the shooter. don't wait for back-up. >> the 77-page report released by the texas house investigative

committee says nearly 400 members of law enforcement, federal, state and local, were on scene, yet questions remain why it took so long for ji one to confront the suspect which is what active shooter training teaches. the report also contains both security failures at the school here like unlocked doors, all three of the external doors were unlocked that day, and also, john, by missing red flags, they say, about the shooter himself. back to you. >> 400 officers and took an hour and 17 minutes before they got him. a lot of questions still remain. casey, thanks so much. jacqui. >> jacqui: gas prices are continuing to fall from the all-time high set this summer. but prices are likely to jump back up right before the midterms. phil flynn, a long time oil trader and fox news contributor. can you lay out the timeline here? we have the possibility that

russia shuts down the supply to europe, the coming end of the strategic reserve sales. what are things going to look like as we head into the fall? >> i think very dangerous, jacqui, and i think you pointed out some things i'm really concerned about. there is already a sign that russia is going to cut off gas supply to europe, they declared this, they are not going to deliver supplies like they said they would. and that could be a precursor to what happens this winter. if europe can't get natural gas supplies they have to replace that with oil, that's going to compete with gasoline prices and drive those prices up. the other thing here in the united states, we have a lack of refining capacity. already refiners are refining gasoline at the rate of over 10 million barrels a day to keep up with demand. demand that is not as strong as a year ago, and if we have to get into refinery maintenance or if there's a disruption, the

gasoline prices that have come down are going to look cheap a few weeks from now. >> john: j.p. morgan is warning if russia turns off the spigot in reaction to new sanctions going in on russia, that oil could go to $380 a barrel. what would that mean in terms of the price at the pump? >> you know, basically we are talking $10 a gallon. but really, what it means, john, is a slap to the global economy. that type of price increase in crude oil means recession, if not depression. and it's amazing that the world has allowed russia to gain control, you know, over europe and the world economy like this. i thought we learned these lessons back in the 1970s, you know. but instead, we are off on this green energy push, shut down refineries, shut down gas plants. that does not make any sense. i think we started -- we should start to realize that we have to do this energy transition a lot

smarter to make sure that our national security is not at risk. >> jacqui: also been some warning from economists that these ideas coming out of the biden administration like putting a price cap on russian oil and cutting the federal gas tax could make things even worse. >> you are absolutely right, jacqui. if i wanted a recipe for making gasoline prices go up, that's what i would do. and listen, do you think russia is going to abide to a price cap? if we say to russia or the countries already buying russian oil, they say well, we can only pay you x dollars a barrel, what if russia says no. there goes your price cap. all of a sudden you don't have oil, people will be desperate to pay whatever they can for the price of oil, it will drive prices up. i'm amazed at treasury secretary janet yellen continues to go down this path, does not make any sense. >> transportation secretary pete buttigieg is looking at this as the barrel half full as opposed

to half empty, saying the high gas prices, perfect opportunity to buy an electric car. >> we are for cutting the cost of electric vehicles. when you have an electric vehicle you are going to be able to save on gas, but you have to be able to afford it in the first place. we are starting to see on some models the cost come to where even if the car payment is higher, the gas is lower, so -- >> if you were to take off the gas powered cars and replace with electric cars, good chance the electrical grid probably would not be able to handle it, where do you get electricity? 61% fossil fuels, what are you really trading here, phil? >> you are trading, you know, unicorns for fairy dust.

this is ridiculous, and i don't think when we hear comments like that out of the biden administration, you know, treasury secretary buttigieg and other people, i don't think they really understand how energy works. and the other thing you have to consider is the impact on the environment for the production of the millions of electric vehicles, you know, lithium batteries and the cobalt and the steel, what it's going to do to the environment. it's very short-sided thinking. listen, are electric cars part of the equation, they are. but there is no way that we have the technology to switch from the internal combustion engine to electric cars. it doesn't exist right now. it can be an addition to reducing demand, but we cannot replace the gas-powered engine with that. >> jacqui: phil flynn for us, thank so much, does not look

good. >> go fill up. >> john: phil has the skinny on the gasoline injury. can you imagine $380 a barrel? >> jacqui: recipe for radical protests and extremism, saw it in france a few years ago. looks bad. >> john: house speaker nancy pelosi's house back in the headlines, this time over investing millions of shares in a semiconductor chip company. why that transaction is raising some eyebrows. >> jacqui: and fox news cameras catching hundreds, if not thousands of migrants crossing into the u.s., and dozens of hits on the terrorist screening database this year. how big is the threat? >> i can guarantee you that terrorists have made it across the southwest border, this open border. i don't know how many. some day we are going to find out.

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>> john: fox news cameras spotting hundreds of illegal migrants crossing into the united states at our southern border over the weekend. this as new c.b.p. data shows six terror watch list suspects were apprehended at the border in the month of june. bring in brandon judd. border patrol still getting a lot of migrants coming in across the border at a time when typically there was reduction in cross border traffic. put up the numbers for june of this year, comparatively speaking. 207,416 last month, that compares to 189,000 in june of 2021, 33,000 june of 2020, 104,000 in what was a banner year, 2019. and they are coming in, brandon, we have talked about this before in larger groups than ever before. we have seen people choking the rio grande to get across. >> yeah, june of 2020, that's a typical year. if you go back well beyond that,

all the way back to the 1990s, the early 2000s, all you do is look at the normal numbers for this time of the year, it's about 30 to 40,000 people. we are well over 200,000 people right now that, is unsustainable. when you look at the large groups, it's taking resources out of the field, it takes border patrol agents out of the field and leaves the border wide open. cartels completely control areas of our border and that's how they are able to get in so many of their -- of people that are on whether terror watch lists, criminal aliens, or the drugs killing so many of our children. it's complete chaos. i don't have the words to tell you how frustrated we are because we cannot protect the american people right now. >> john: you mentioned the terror watch list, people who were apprehended on the terrorist screening database, june 2022, 6 people.

fiscal year 2022, 56 in total, more than the previous four years combined and those we should point out are people who were stopped. but as you were pointing out, as the large groups come across the border and customs and border protection personnel process those people it leaves the rest of the border wide open, and hundreds of thousands of so-called got-aways, into the country free and clear, are any of them on the terror watch list? >> yeah, in june of last month, i'm sorry, there were over 50,000 got-aways. of course there are going to be people that are dangerous, individuals coming from countries and the nation. we are dealing with over 150 countries right now. so it stands to reason, common sense clearly tells you that people from countries that want to do us harm are making it in because of our border, because the cartels control everything on the border. everything corresponds with illegal immigration, the amount

of drugs on the streets, cartels are controlling our operations, they are dictating to us what they are going to do on the border and that's scary and we are not going to feel the effects for years down the road but are going to feel what is going on. >> john: brandon, a few weeks ago texas governor greg abbott had a program he wanted to bus people up to washington, d.c. to make a point, you are the ones who are in charge of this problem, you are doing nothing about it, you are leaving us to pick up the pieces. d.c. mayor started complaining the illegal immigrants who were bussed up to d.c. are starting to take up space in homeless shelters, what she said about it. >> we have for sure called on the federal government to work across state lines to prevent people from really being tricked into getting on busses, but i fear they are being tricked into nationwide bus trips when their final destinations are places

all over the united states of america. >> john: she claimed the people were being tricked into going to washington, d.c. this is a statement from texas governor greg abbott, he said the only lie is the biden administration telling the american people that our border is closed. nation's capital now experiencing a fraction of the disaster created by president biden's open door policies, maybe he will do his job and secure the border. the people did so voluntarily on the busses, they dropped them off in front of our washington bureau, many of them were happy to come to d.c., some were trying to get to miami and they saw going to d.c. as an easier way of getting there than through texas. so, was anybody tricked here? >> no, no, absolutely not. i've been on the ground, i've seen what's going on. i know these people are given an opportunity. they are told exactly what is going to happen. nobody is being tricked. that's the lies that you can expect to see from the far left.

you can expect to see mayors from d.c. when they feel a little bit of the pressure, and a very small amount of pressure. look at what's going on in yuma, mcallen, eagle pass, all the different cities that have to deal with this current crisis. they have been feeling it for a long time. she feels a very small portion of it and she says they are being tricked. nobody is being tricked, that's lies from the far left. >> john: before we leave you, show a stunning statistic, number of border crossers this year compared with all of last year. 2022, 3 months left, fiscal year, 1,746,119 people have been apprehended crossing the border. that's more than all of last year. again, three months left. predictions are we are easily going to go past the 2 million mark which really will be a milestone. brandon judd, national border patrol council, good to get your thoughts on things. thank you.

>> thank you, john. >> john: can you imagine, 2 million coming across the border illegally. >> and i ask the white house, and they say republicans need to come to us. how can you say that, the white house and both chambers of congress. >> john: and immigration is in the purview of the white house, and border patrol, and as president trump showed in his administration, the white house can do something about it. you have to want to do something about it. >> jacqui: that causes people like senator cornyn to say they don't care and that's the ingredients for that kind of a statement. >> john: now that washington d.c. homeless shelter, every state and district is a border state. >> jacqui: never been truer. congress is getting ready to vote on a bill that would give subsidies and tax credits to semiconductor chip industry, comes after house speaker nancy pelosi's husband made a big

investment in chips. hillary vaughn is live on capitol hill. what are you learning about this? >> good afternoon, jacqui. not the first time that speaker pelosi's husband paul's stock buys have gotten attention and raised some question, but the latest purchase comes right before congress is expected to give a big subsidy to the chip industry. paul pelosi disclosed a million dollars stock purchase in june, make chip systems for cars, robot and other technology, purchase happening before congress is expected to pass a bill to give about $52 million in aid to the industry. spokesperson telling us today. speaker does not own any stocks. required disclosures with which the speaker fully cooperates, marked s.p., no prior knowledge or subsequent knowledge in any

transactions. but some say whether she knew about the purchase is not the point, they do have the power to vote up or down bills that would reap major returns for their investments. >> speaker pelosi is the ultimate insider, and not only is her husband buying stock options on a much higher level than the average member of congress, average member of congress, 500 or 600 but he's buying options which expires. so you have to know exactly which direction that stock is going to move and you can make a huge profit. so, this is wrong. >> there are several bills in the house waiting for a bill that would ban lawmakers and their spouses from trading stocks while in office, but it's not just watch dogs in washington that have caught on to paul pelosi's stock buys. his trades are famous on tiktok, investors looking at what he's

buying, using it as a tip to buy, not a bad idea, jacqui. his portfolio has outperformed the s & p 500 several times, what he's buying is paying off. >> jacqui: if i ever want to own a house, i have to track paul pelosi's trades. >> exactly. >> john: troubling news out of iran. one official saying his country could build a nuclear bomb right now if it wanted to. is the white house ready to respond? congressman mike walsh joins us. >> jacqui: a single mother cooking dinner for her kids when bullets came flying into her home. the suspected shooter killed after a long standoff with police. why that mom found herself pushing back against black lives matter protestors. >> not armed. this man tried to kill us.

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chicago. how is this different from so many of the other controversial police-involved shootings in the minneapolis area? >> this guy was armed, john. shot at his neighbors after a six-hour standoff. snipers took him out. the blm protestors gathered and demanded for justice, sunberg shot into the home of yarborough. sunberg held police at bay for hours, after he was shot and killed police found a handgun and a bull filled with ammunition in his apartment. as the protestors gathered outside the same apartment she lives, her lost her temper with them. >> in the hallway, shot went through my door to the kitchen. i was cooking food for my kids.

my kids asked if you celebrate a man's life that tried to kill them. >> the president of the federation of police officers in minneapolis says negotiation was attempted with sunberg but was futile when he endangered the lives of others. the family as well as their attorney say they feel for yarborough and say sunberg was having a mental crisis. >> we can do both things, feel terribly for the woman, but also he should be alive and we can ask minneapolis police department to do better. >> blm activists as well as family members are demanding release of body camera footage. minneapolis police say with more than 50 officers on the scene over six hours, hundreds of hours of footage and needs to be reviewed before it's released. >> thank you so much. jacqui. >> jacqui: the woke world coming

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years? he's got his problems, too. she's a serial marrier, i would want to say. but it's kind of sweet, you know. there's a hope yet for long lost love. >> john: d life, not that he's long in the tooth or he is, but they are much more mature than 20 years ago, and sometimes like you know, the old romance that reblossoms, you know, later in life is a lasting one. >> jacqui: it's a miracle, they both look like they have not aged a day. so -- >> john: that's a combination of a lot of things, including good genes. >> jacqui: i want some of that. despite repeated denials from president biden that he spoke to his son about his business dealings overseas, he met with his father at least 30 days at the white house or the vice president's residence as biden served as v.p., some coming just days after hunter returned from

overseas business trips. byron york, the chief political correspondent and fox news contributor, and we have heard from the white house over and over again that the president has never dealt with his son, not involved in the overseas business dealings but this is starting to look a lot more suspect. >> absolutely. remember, the hunter biden story is always really a joe biden story. and the question is, did president biden really not know about his son's business dealings as the president has said over and over. and this new article in the new york post not only talks about the number 30, 30 visits to the vice president's residence or to the white house, it also talks about some business dealings we did not know much about before. we've heard about ukraine, russia, china, this has a lot of details about business in colombia that hunter biden was pursuing with a former president

there, meeting him and then meeting with his father joe biden, his father the vice president in washington, and then telling the former president of colombia that i'm checking on my dad's schedule about a meeting, so all of this, all of this makes it more difficult to believe that joe biden really knew nothing about what was going on. >> jacqui: the president certainly denied it frequently on the campaign trail, play some of the sound to refresh our memories. >> how many times have you ever spoken to your son about his overseas business dealings? >> i've never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings. i have never discussed with my son or brother or anyone else having to do with their businesses, period. >> do you think it was wrong for him to take that position knowing that it was really because the company wanted access to you? >> that's not true. you are saying things you do not know what you are talking about. no one said that. who said that?

>> jacqui: so, what's really interesting here, the last clip february of 2020 after he came into office, but more and more detail about the laptop and the alleged meetings, heard less and less from the white house, they are refusing to answer questions in briefings referring us to hunter's lawyer, a private citizen and refusing to talk from the podium. what's different about this, and ask you, during the transition, the president put out on transition letterhead this announcement about hunter's federal tax investigation, statement from hunter and a statement from the president talking about his love for his son, and now they are not talking about it from the white house, so, being why should they be able to refer questions to a private citizen when he's now the president of the united states and more and more is coming out and causing us to question it. >> it's the classic washington run around. the problem is the laptop is a trove of information about what is happening. everything i was talking before about the colombia and former

president, that's all from the laptop, and those questions are not gonna go away. >> jacqui: we are running out of time. byron york, thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> john: coming up new at 2:00, the first lady defending the president's job performance saying he had high hopes of getting some things done if it were not for all the crisis coming up. but even fellow democrats are not buying that as they look ahead to 2024. john kerry. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete hiv treatment you can get every other month. cabenuva helps keep me undetectable. it's two injections, given by a healthcare provider every other month. it's one less thing to think about while traveling. hiv pills aren't on my mind. a quick change in my plans is no big deal. don't receive cabenuva if you're allergic to its ingredients or taking certain medicines, which may interact with cabenuva. serious side effects include allergic reactions, post-injection reactions, liver problems, and depression. if you have a rash and other allergic reaction symptoms, stop cabenuva and get medical help right away.

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>> john: brand-new at 2:00, james madison survived the british burning down his home but the founding father was defenseless against the modern woke mob. two centuries later, his historic home reimagined. american history rewritten and kids on field trips being told the father of the constitution was a creep. >> jacqui: it does not stop there. woke professors want scientists to stop identifying ancient human remains by gender. the reason? there's no way to know if a cave man self-identified as a cave woman.

>> john: or neither. it's a whole new world of woke, and jonathan turley is having none of it when he joins us live. do we have your attention yet? i'm john roberts. welcome back from saudi arabia. >> jacqui: good to be here and back on american soil, mighty add. jonathan turley is getting ready to join us, new at 2:00, a fox news alert. >> john: first lady coming to her husband ises defense saying the problems that have piled up under the president's watch are not his fault. >> jacqui: jill biden saying a host of unforeseen events here and abroad have stopped the biden administration from achieving most of its agenda, saying he's had so many things thrown his way. who would have thought about what happened with the supreme court overturning roe v. wade. maybe we saw it coming but did not believe it. gun violence in the country is absolutely appalling, we did not see the war in ukraine coming. >> john: republicans say it's no excuse for the president's

policies and point to his poll numbers as proof the american people are not buying it. senator john kennedy, republican from louisiana. jill biden lamenting it has not let her husband's agendas to go forward, sidetracked, but when it comes to things like gas prices, inflation, the war in ukraine, said nobody saw coming, how much of this was unforeseen and how much is a self-inflicted wound? >> i'm sorry, the first lady is not enjoying herself more. imagine how the american people feel. they don't get free food and free housing or free helicopter or free plane or several free cars and a staff of thousands. here is a cold dish of truth,

john. you reap what you sow. go woke and go broke. and that's the reason that the results of president biden's policies look like the aftermath of a bar brawl. president biden has chosen to blindly follow such masters of the universe as senator bernie sanders, congresswoman ocasio-cortez, and the people on "the view." take inflation. this inflation was made in washington at president biden's encouragement. the federal reserve printed too much money, congress spent too much money and president joe biden forfeited america's energy independence, and if you disagreed with any of that, the president called you a racist or a misogyny or nazi.

federal reserve has started reversing the policy, president biden hasn't, and i would suggest to him the solution to a fantasy is stop indulging in it. >> john: he still has build back better on his mind. comments from the first lady came at a fundraiser for d.n.c. on nantucket, she said the president had so many hopes and plans for things he wanted to do. every time he turned around, had to address the problems of the moment. every presidency is beset with crisis. it's part of being president. other administration's have been able to deal with the crisis and also pursue policy agendas. why is this president incapable of doing that? >> i don't know. some think that age is not a guarantee of wisdom. that may be part of it. but i think the real reason is his policies. i mean, look at the border, you know. woe is me, we have a crisis at

the border. well, mr. president, you created it, if you want to solve it, just go back to the policies that remember implemented the day before you took office. i mentioned inflation. another example is crime. well, when you persistently defund and disrespect the police, policemen are going to quit and the solution is to stop defunding and disrespecting the police, stand behind them, encourage them to enforce all laws, the big ones and the little ones. so you don't have to be einstein's cousin, john, to figure all this out. >> john: when you take a look at the "new york times" poll came out a number of days ago, which is disastrous for the president, there are so many people across the board that do not want to see him run again. when asked whether or not biden should be the nominee or another candidate, young voters, 18 to 29 years old, 94% said another

candidate, white voters, 70% said another candidate. hispanic, 63%, black voters, 47%. the fact that so many democrats are openly talking about not wanting biden to run in 2024, does that suggest that he is a victim of unexpected crisis or not up to the job? >> well, i could spend an hour on that. i realize the first lady is not having a very good time, but imagine how the president feels. he is less than halfway through his term and he's already a lame duck. the majority of americans think he should not run for re-election, majority of democrats think he should not run for re-election, a lot of his colleagues are talking about running against him, and the only way he's going to find his footing, in my judgment, and the only way the american people are going to be better off is to

reverse his woke policies. it's just that simple. you reap what you sow. otherwise, i mean, the american people are just gonna continue to not trust him with a glow stick. >> john: louisiana senator john kennedy, by the way, stay tuned for the woke segment on anthropology. i think you will find it fascinating. all right. see you again soon. >> jacqui: officials are giving an update on the deadly shooting at an indiana mall food court, listen in as we hear details from them. >> shooting suspect, he was pronounced deceased at the scene. he is 20 years old, he has a juvenile record and no criminal history as an adult. his past incidents with the greenwood police department include minor offenses as a juvenile such as a fight at school and being a juvenile run

away. he does not drive, we believe that he walked to the greenwood park mall last night. we were told by family members he typically walks or ubers to wherever he needs to go. we know the a.t.f., their specialty is weapons. as soon as we got in and started processing the crime scene last night, the a.t.f. took the serial number information and immediately began the process of tracking down when and where those guns were purchased. if you have questions from the a.t.f., representative here once i'm done, he will be available to answer more specifics. however, the weapon used by mr. spearman last night was a sig sauer model 400 m556 caliber weapon, rifle. purchased on march 8, 2022 here

in greenwood. the second weapon recovered, this was in the bathroom, was an m and p15556 rifle. purchased on march 9th, 2021, from a store here in greenwood. he also had on his person a glock 33 pistol. the only weapon used was the sig sauer model 400 m rifle. he had multiple magazines and over 100 rounds of ammunition on his person and in his possession. we know that from family members that he has been practicing shooting at range u.s.a. the a.t.f. has made contact with range u.s.a. and received records from them that show that

he was frequently using their range and purchasing ammunition at that location for the past two years. we know that he recently resigned from a warehouse position back in may and we have not confirmed yet detectives are serving a subpoena as we speak to apollo run apartment complex to find out if he, in fact, was being evicted. we were told by family members that they believe he had received an eviction notice. that has not been confirmed at this time. we did locate a cell phone belonging to him in a toilet in the stall in the bathroom. we believe he placed it there prior to exiting the restroom to begin his shooting spree. the following is a timeline of

events. we know through surveillance video entered at 4:54 p.m. walks directly to the food court restroom. one hour and two minutes later he exits the restroom and shoots victor gomez outside of the restroom. he then points his rifle into the food court where pedro and rosa penita were eating dinner and shot both rosa and pedro. he then fired several more rounds into the food court, striking a 22-year-old female who is currently recovering from a leg wound at the hospital, and a bullet fragment believed to have ricochetted off a wall did strike a 12-year-old female who was running towards exit four in the back. there was a minor wound, treated

at the hospital. they did remove a small piece of metal jacket, most likely from a ricochet. at 5:57 p.m. the shooter was confronted by the good samaritan, i will identify in just a moment. the good samaritan was armed with a pistol and engaged the shooter as he stood outside the restroom area firing into the food court. the shooter fired several rounds, striking the suspect. the suspect attempted to retreat back into the restroom and fell to the ground after being shot. we recovered 24.223 rifle rounds shot by the suspect, and ten fired by the good samaritan. the good samaritan once again,

he has authorized us to release his name. he is requesting you give him time to process and grieve himself before reaching out to him. his name is eliasjhsa, and resides in seymour. he was at the mall with his girlfriend shopping. one last thing that i would like to get help from the media is there were several personal property items left behind. when you have an incident like this, it's complete chaos, people left shopping bags, they left cell phones, wallets, a lot of personal property. we have recovered that personal property and is currently being entered into our property room.

tomorrow anyone who is missing a personal item left behind can come to the greenwood police training center located at 736 lowes boulevard between 9:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. there will be officers there to assist them and getting their personal property back. we ask them to bring a form of identification so that we can positively identify the person we are giving the property to. at this time i will open it up for questions. jonathan sapirman. [inaudible] >> can you talk about the good samaritan, what was the status of his permit and level of

cooperation. >> we could not find he had a permit, he was carrying legally under his constitutional carry law. >> what kind of firearm did he have? >> he had a glock handgun, i believe. >> one other question, you identified originally .556. .556. very similar, they shoot .223 rounds also. >> how can you identify -- >> .556. >> can you tell us about the conversation between the detectives and the good samaritan, what he expressed to them, and obviously -- explain how he explained how he went through the process? >> well, i -- i personally did not speak to him. i did watch the video, the surveillance video which captured pretty much the entire

incident. i will say his actions were nothing short of heroic. he engaged the gunman from quite a distance with a handgun, was very proficient in that, very tactically sounds, and as he moved to close in on the suspect he was also motioning for people to exit behind him. he has, to our knowledge, he has no police training and no military background. >> as you watch that tape, explain to yourself what would happen if this man had been, let's say, in j.c. penney at the other end of the mall -- >> at that time of night on a sunday, i couldn't speculate. i don't know how many people were in that area of the mall. can you, without giving away trade secrets, explain how you were able to coordinate with

your fellow law enforcement to respond to the situation? >> sure. in an incident like this, when an active shooter situation goes out, there are several -- first thing that happens is officers from other agencies hear it dispatched, officers at home get pages, officers in the area that might be off duty in their vehicles with radios on all hear it, and they automatically expedite to the scene. so we have a lot of self-reporting that may not be on duty from other agencies, basically everybody runs to help, which is great but can be chaotic and cause problems if it's unorganized. first thing we have to do is create staging points for self-reporting and assign a supervisor to the staging point to monitor who is coming in and

keep track of where people are. the second is to establish an incident command and a unified command with all agencies that are responding so all of the individuals you see behind me were the head of their agencies on the scene. we all met at one location and there was one point of contact. >> jacqui: we have been listening to indiana police give some detail on the mall shooter who was taken out by a good samaritan but not before he took the lives of three people, including a husband and wife. some details from police that 20-year-old suspect now identified as jonathan douglas sapirman, victim, ages 56, 37 and 30, victor gomez and rosa and pedro penita, a husband and wife, and a couple more people were shot. 12-year-old girl hit by a bullet fragment before the shooter was taken out by a 22-year-old good

samaritan, elijah dickens. more detail from our reporter on the scene. >> john: alexis mcadams has been covering this all day and police are really singing the praises of dickens for showing the bravery to go after the gunman and tremendous amount of expertise in terms of how he moved tactically and his marksmanship, which probably saved a number of lives. >> exactly, john. in the press conference and throughout the day talking to authorities, they say the 22 indiana man, from seymour, indiana, even more southern than where this happened near indianapolis, took down the shooter within seconds. he was in the foot court when he spotted the gunman and opened fire with a gun police say he was licensed to carry. we have been getting those updates from authorities there as you heard, but for a motive, nothing just yet. investigators say the gunman had at least three guns, two on his body at the time of the shooting, and sources are telling us that they raided his

indiana apartment overnight where he might have been evicted recently or set to be evicted, chaotic scene in greenwood where authorities rushed to clear the scene. watch. >> that's just some of that, the foot locker inside the mall. you can hear them yelling for police and trying to get him out of there. the shooting happened inside the suburban mall in greenwood, indiana, 20 miles south of indianapolis. and the gunman, 20-year-old jonathan sapirman was in the bathroom for quite some time, and then walked into the food court, and killed four people, including a husband and wife. the suspect shot five people in total there, so sources are telling us that those people who died had several gunshot wounds and investigators say one of the girls who was injured was 12 years old. she is now recovering. so, still a lot more unfolding. according to simon mall code of

conduct, no weapons are allowed inside of their shopping centers there, but as you heard the authorities say they are grateful this man was carrying a weapon legally and able to take down the gunman. the mall released a statement saying in part we are grateful for the strong response of the first responders, including the heroic actions of that good samaritan who stepped in, they are all releasing the new information at that press conference, and a lot more could be coming out. but at this point they said he bought the guns in greenwood indiana in march and did not have a lengthy criminal history. >> john: we do know he had some sort of a juvenile record, don't know if it would prohibited from buying guns. clearly in this case it didn't, but under different rules, different states. he had two rifles, sig sauer and mmp, and glock 57 as well, so clearly came to the mall to do

as much damage as possible. thank god for the good samaritan. >> jacqui: and the mayor of washington, d.c. has been putting a blame of the migrants on governor abbott. >> the governor responded to fox news and greg abbott continues to send some of the illegal migrants here to other cities, including the nation's capitol of washington, d.c. abbott tells us in part to alleviate some of of the border towns who say they are overwhelmed of migrants and to send a message to the biden administration that the border crisis is its problem. now d.c. shelters in d.c. being overwhelmed with migrants, the mayor is calling on the federal government to help with migrants in her city and claims texas governor abbott should not bus illegal immigrants to the nation's capitol, rather only

where they wish to go. >> i fear they are being tricked into nationwide bus trips when their final destinations are places all over the united states of america. >> governor abbott's office responded to fox news writing in part "with our nation's capitol new experiencing a fraction of the disaster created by president biden's reckless open border policies that our state faces every single day, maybe he'll finally do his job and secure the border." and it was a busy weekend on the border. we saw hundreds of migrants crosby foot into the u.s. we also did two overnight ride-alongs with texas d.p.s. troopers, last night the cameras captured multiple bus, troopers recovered gun, and arrested illegal immigrants hiding in cars. and we are told they will be charged with human smuggling. and ranchers are dealing with fear and stress. migrants cut their fences, rob their homes and run through their property at night.

one rancher had 14 migrants arrested on her property. >> i am worried for the country, not so much for me, but for the grandchildren that i would like to tell can parents you better get aware of what's going on. >> and that rancher told us she does not judge the migrants, in fact she was referring to one migrant arrested in front of her trespassing on her property. she said he looks like a nice young man, he's just here illegally. john. >> john: matt, thank you. jacqui. >> jacqui: some mixed messaging on the economy after a few of the biggest names in the banking world have been warning repeatedly of an economic downturn, citigroup is saying a recession is not necessarily in the cards. steve forbes, not long ago we were hearing from the c.e.o. of j.p. morgan an economic hurricane is headed our way. explain for us the field here,

what's going on. >> well, nobody can foresee the future but i think jamie diamond and some others look at what's happening with loans, look at what's happening with the consumers, and conclude given what's happening with the economy in general that tough times are ahead, and whether economists can get an argument over what is a recession, tens of millions of americans know incomes are not keeping up with rising prices, even though there is a little bit of relief on the gas front, we do see home ownership of problems coming with the variable mortgages have to be reset, consumers paying more interest rates on their credit cards, smaller businesses will be under pressure, so the economy is in trouble and so i think jamie diamond is more right than citibank, i hope they are right but the economy is in trouble and get trouble i think with the economy from crisis arising overseas. >> jacqui: what is citibank

looking at in making this assessment, what is pointing them to that conclusion? >> i think they see the job market is still strong, some people still have savings out there, consumer spending has been holding up. job creation is continuing. and so therefore, maybe they can achieve the federal reserve can achieve what they call a soft landing. make no mistake, the federal reserve goal is to slow the economy down, the only way they know how to fight inflation is by depressing economic activity, making people poorer. there are better ways to do it but the fed is on the destructive course, so that's the danger. they can't control an economy the way it can drive a car, and so they are going to overdo it, and i think we are starting to see it already. so again, i think morgan has it better than citi on this one. >> jacqui: interesting, and recording the fed may ratchet things up even more and a full

point on the next rate hike. how does that sort of factor into what we are going to see in the future and whether we can trust the forecasts coming out of these banks? >> you can't trust what comes out of the fed. their forecasts have been consistently wrong about 95% of the time for at least the last 10 or 12 years. and in terms of bank, banks like to put on an optimistic face most of the time. they want businesses to be happy, they want customers to be happy, so they are not going to put out a dire forecast if they can help it. so, it's because the evidence is overwhelming that a lot of this inflation and inflation, supply, nonmonetary inflation coming from the biden administration senseless war against commerce, senseless war against energy, particularly natural gas and oil, even though the green europeans tell us now natural gas is a clean fuel, so the biden administration is a problem, the federal reserve

does not know how to properly fight inflation, we have choppy seas ahead, and problems with the euro, and the japanese yen, and so if the people knew what they were doing we could face the future with confidence. these doctors are guilty of economic malpractice. >> jacqui: the white house paying attention to the numbers at least when it comes to the president's polling, but what they are doing about it is questionable at best. all right. thank you so much for joining us. steve forbes. >> john: new york post has been at the forefront of reporting when it comes to hunter biden's laptop, and now a new scoop on dozens of hunter's calendar meetings is raising more questions for president biden. that report coming right up. >> jacqui: days after president biden was in the mideast, tehran says it's capable of building a nuclear weapon if the rogue regime wants to. reaction from house armed services committee member

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>> jacqui: even if you don't have any issues trying to fly over the summer, a good chance your luggage may not be so lucky. a major baggage insurer is tracking a 30% spike in passenger's bags stranded on the way to their final destinations. so many travelers are reporting horror stories some are taking precautions like buying radio frequency trackers like the apple air tag. that way people can see where their suitcases land anywhere in the world, even if it's not where they touch down. the problem last week delta flew a jumbo jet with 0 passengers just to collect 1,000 stranded bags. >> john: that is a big problem. dr. anthony fauci says he will retire by the end of president biden's term. 81-year-old was one of the best known doctors in the world during the last two and a half years as the face of the government's response, some controversial, such as lockdown,

school closures and wearing masks. led the infectious disease unit since 1984. he does not know when he will step down but if he waits for covid to be gone before retiring, he'll be 105. >> jacqui: looks like hunter biden met with his dad right after business meetings, raising even more questions about the president's claim that he doesn't know anything about his son's business dealings. chief washington correspondent mike emmanuel is following the story for us, and what did the post find? >> the new york post reports hunter biden met with his father at least 30 times with the white house or the official residence days after returning home from overseas travel. thought being hunter may be relaying messages on behalf of foreign clients to his dad while

joe biden was vice president. meetings found on a personal calendar on hunter's laptop. 2011, hunter and his business associates were chasing business in colombia. march 12, 22, vice president biden met with the former president of colombia, there was a $1.8 billion power plant project and $3 billion upgrade to the bogota, colombia subway system. and that a business associate emailed hunter in 2011 saying "if it works we'll all be rich." he was invited to 21 of 30 business meetings with joe biden. a month later, contact with o.e.s. was sent to hunter, and they discussed possibly multi-billion dollar bonuses if the projects worked out. top republican on house oversight draws this conclusion. >> when you look at the whole biden business model with

respect to hunter biden and jim biden, always been to pedal influence, to sell the biden name and to promise potential investors and potential people who would pay for their services access to the government at the highest levels. not just in the united states, but in other countries. >> the white house has not responded to my request for comment today. jacqui. >> jacqui: they have not responded to too many questions about this story lately. thanks. >> john: iran putting out word it could build a nuclear weapon whenever it wants but an advisor says they have not decided whether or not they will. >> jacqui: on the heels of the president's visit to iran's nemisis, saudi arabia, and as president biden pushes for rejoining the obama era iran nuclear deal. >> john: michael waltz, republican congressman from florida, and also a former green beret commander. the president looking for

support for a new iran deal. when he got to israel, though, he was met with a real difference of opinion as to how to go about reining in iran. listen to the president conference and note the difference of position. >> make it absolutely clear, we will not, let me say it again, we will not allow iran to acquire a nuclear weapon. i continue to believe the diplomacy is the best way to achieve this outcome. >> words will not stop them, mr. president. diplomacy will not stop them. the only way to stop them is to put a credibility military threat on the table. >> john: that was a real sharp contradiction and that was in prepared remarks as well. so he really wanted to drive that point home. >> you can drive a mack truck through the difference in opinions and positions there. i'm with him on this one, the

only thing that will stop the supreme leader from the nuclear obsession is a very credible use and threat of military force. look, nobody wants war, nobody wants a conflict, but this is about deterrence, and they have to have the material and the ballistic missiles and the ability to weaponize it, this is the only thing that will stop them. that means very clear statement from the commander in chief, we did not get that in that press conference. but it also means credibly moving forces into the region and most importantly selling the israelis, giving the israelis the technical sophisticated military equipment that they have been asking for and have not been getting from this administration. >> doesn't this statement from the supreme leader they can build a nuclear become if they want to, doesn't that demand a response from the biden administration? >> i think it demands a very

clear response, when we say we will not allow iran to have a bomb, what does that mean? what are we prepared to do to stop it? the israelis are clear and we need to be clear alongside them and support israel if they have to take action to take this bomb down. why does this matter to the american people? why is it so critical to even use military force to stop iran from having a bomb, number one. you are seeing what putin believes he can get away with under a nuclear umbrella, the regime wants that same capability, but the middle east will explode in an nuclear arms race. saudis will have a bomb, u.a.e., and turkey, and not in the interest of anyone to have the middle east literally exploding in a nuclear arms race with all of these leaders with their finger on the button. >> john: forces in the region,

we have the sixth fleet in bahrain, but staging troops in saudi arabia is probably not doable. where else would you put them? >> u.a.e., bahrain, northern iraq with our allies the kurds, ironically, even though biden promised a draw down and bringing forces home after he pulled out of afghanistan, we have just as many forces in the middle east. but putting the right types of capabilities to send the signal to the iranians. we can, we have the will and we have the capability to take down your program. i pray we never have to do that, but as a deterrent measure i think that's the only thing that's going to stop the regime's march toward a nuclear weapon and signalling that support for the israelis and giving them what they need is also critical. >> jacqui: certainly a tough interest in for the president to look at in terms of any gains that were made here. looks like a lot of short-term costs to his administration, and to the reputation of the u.s. and questionable, you know, what

we are going to get out of it in the end. >> what did he walk away with, right? basically the saudis said we will think about it. we got very mixed reaction and very different page from israel, and look, we are approaching the one-year anniversary of afghanistan where our credibility took a massive hit and when you have, whether it was the trip to poland or this trip with no deliverables for the commander and chief on the world stage, that further damages our credibility and dictatorship, authoritarian regimes are emboldened by perceived weakness and they are not deterred what they are seeing. >> john: he walked away from a faceful of criticism from members of his party from the fist bump. >> jacqui: james madison, founding father, a president and writer of federal papers, you might not learn that when you

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or perhaps we should say b.c. police. woke folks trying to make sure everyone is prehistorically correct. the new rules they are pushing for scientists to make sure primitive man does not get misgendered. jonathan turley ahead. fired up on that. but first. >> jacqui: transgender inmate incarcerated at a women's only prison in new jersey has since been moved to another facility, that's after impregnating two female inmates. lauren green has more in the newsroom. >> the transgender inmate says the sex with the two women prisoners was consensual and is blasting them of harsh injustice for transferring to a youth correctional facility where she is the only woman. 27-year-old demi minor posed for the camera. minor is a transgender woman serving 30 years for the stabbing death of her foster father 11 years ago, and she says sexually abused her.

in april, it was revealed that minor had impregnated two female prisoners at a new jersey state women's prison. so last month the officials transferred minor to another facility. she tweeted in part, i was moved from a female facility to a male facility, i truly am, it has to stop. on her blog, minor posted that the new jersey department of corrections has "violated my right to be safe and free from sexual harassment by putting me in one of the most violent youth correctional facilities." minor also complained about guards constantly calling her he, and him, and that they denied her request to be strip searched by a female officer. new jersey began housing transgender females in women's facilities a little more than a year ago as part of a mandated settlement with the american civil liberties union. it says transgender persons should be imprisoned in the prison with the gender identity.

now the new jersey department of corrections tells fox news today it could not comment on specific housing actions regarding an individual, but they are reportedly investigating minor's claims. jacqui. >> jacqui: lauren green in new york. >> john: might expect to see an american flag at the home of james madison, but not only are there no flags at madison's montpelier estate, but hardly any role of creating the government. it's in a display that pushes the claim from 1619 project that racism was the foundation on which the entire american democracy was built. the same globalist billionaire who transformed jefferson's monticello is apparently behind

this rewrite. jonathan turley, this is a billionaire philanthropist david reubenstein, appears to have canceled james madison in his own home, he wrote the bill of rights, federalist papers, two terms as president, yet barely a peep of that in the new displays. your thoughts. >> well, its very alarming. you know, i do respect that reubenstein has spent a lot of money preserving historical documents and sites and given a great deal to the country. i'm quite astonished that he would sign off on this type of transformation. this is really something that should be alarming to all americans. you know, madison is not just an american figure, he transformed political theory in his writings in the federalist papers, laid the foundation for the world's most successful democratic system. and by the way, the discussion

of madison "enslaver" misses a more frontal system nating and nuanced historical subject. if you are really interested in the history, it's perfectly correct to note that he did have enslaved individuals on his property and that is something that we should acknowledge and deal with. but it's far more complex than that. if you take a look at what madison did, he was against slavery, he wanted to see the end of slavery, he worked hard for it, figures like lafayette would visit him and they would have meetings of people who were abolitionists on this very property. it's a far more interesting story that is not being told and that means it's not historically true. >> john: another topic that i wanted to discuss with you, and this is some scholars are pushing for anthropologists to stop classifying ancient remains as male or female. you write about this, professors

have called for researchers to stop identifying ancient human remains by biological gender because they cannot gauge how a person identified at that time. maybe it's biologically a cave man but identified as a woman so we shouldn't classify. >> look, if there are non-binary neanderthals i would love to read about them. but they say don't analyze, don't classify according to biological gender, don't look at, sort of ancestry connections or races of these specimens. why would you want to reduce the information you are working with. you can still come to the same conclusions. when the things are suggested, there is a fear among professors that they will be targeted by

the next mob, and they remain silent and the result is we are having a diminishment of our higher educational programs. >> john: jonathan turley, always great to get your thoughts. i enjoyed your column on that. appreciate you coming in. thanks. >> john: when you look at the ancient remains, clear and obvious differences between a male skeleton and a female skeleton, a lot is in the pelvic area. if you don't classify what you found, how do you understand what you found? >> jacqui: who does this help by ignoring information available to us, why does it help anybody to not delve into some of that? based on modern, whatever. >> john: reasoning is, we don't know what they were feeling at the time. >> jacqui: and we never will. >> john: we'll be right back. y credit cards wasn't good. i got into debt in college and, no matter how much i paid, it followed me everywhere. between the high interest, the fees... i felt trapped.

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>> john: they say cops have a lock on doughnuts. take a look at this. a woman in california discovering an unusual scene. a momma bear and her cub eating an entire box of doughnuts that she clearly just purchased. he scared the bears off. are they krispy kreme or duncan? >> dunkin' every time. >> thanks for joining us. i'm john roberts. >> i'm jacqui heinrich. "the story" starts right now with gillian turner in for martha. >> thanks. good afternoon from washington. i'm gillian turner in for martha maccallum. we have katie pavlich, john kirby and an exclusive with florida's attorney general, ashley moody. first, we take a look at the polls. a new low for president biden. his approval hitting 40% in a new fox poll. almost 60% of americans say they disapprove of the job he's doing.