>> tomorrow at this time foreigner takes the stage. >> heads to "fox & friends" for free tickets and barbecue. join us tomorrow morning right here in new york. >> like the first time. >> bill: looking forward to that on friday. dropping the hammer on hunter. the federal investigation said to be heating up. charges could be coming soon. we'll see about that in time. dana has the day off. i'm bill hemmer, big welcome back to our friend and colleague. >> good to be with you. i'm sandra smith and this is "america's newsroom." the hunter biden investigation reaching what is being described as a critical stage now. it started in 2018 and being conducted by the u.s. attorney in delaware. one of the few held over from

the trump administration. >> bill: investigators haven't made a decision to indict. tax violations, foreign lobbying and false statements. that is still a lot we do not know. that could all change possibly very soon. >> hunter biden clearly led a pretty free wheeling life. it seems evident from what we know he used the fact of his father's possible flew as a way for him to make money. there is a lot of smoke there. i think we are probably about to find out whether there is fire. if he is indicted it will be interesting to see what the alleged facts are and whether directly or indirectly they implicate the president. >> bill: team fox coverage from jim trusty. we begin with david hunt in washington >> hi. the investigation officially began four years ago.

heavily sidelined and delayed. a source confirms the grand jury tasked with looking at evidence wrapped up its latest term. the case may now be in the hands of the government to make the next move. the president's son hasn't been charged with a crime but under investigation for tax issues and overseas business dealings. the u.s. attorney and other d.o.j. officials were looking into whether to charge him with tax violations and possible foreign lobbying violations and possible false statements. when joe biden became president he kept on david wise, the u.s. attorney in delaware. president biden did so to adestroyed appearance of a conflict of interest. in this instance the delaware grand jury made up of everyday citizens hear cases from a suspect involved in a bank robbery up to the hunter biden investigation. just because this grand jury

term is over, it doesn't mean there will definitely be charges. the grand jury says yes or no to charges. a new grand jury with new people will serve over the next few months. merrick garland has been asked about the hunter biden investigation multiple times. every time he says he is staying clear letting u.s. attorney in delaware run the investigation. garland and deputy would likely be briefed on any decision by the u.s. attorney in delaware. >> bill: thank you for that. david spunt leading the coverage there. >> dana: let's bring in former jim trusty. great to have you to kick things off for us. it is reaching a critical stage. what do you see happening next? >> color me skeptical. i think there is a lot of questions from the reporting yesterday about what's going on. one thing is it sounds like we're trotting out a guilty plea not necessarily an indictment. there is a big difference. a guilty plea you can file an

information as a prosecutor to allege the facts you'll make the guy plead guilty to. i'm concerned when you talk about a tax case and maybe a gun case and a dinky gun case frankly that the guideline numbers will be low and deflate everything into a little silo for hunter biden and for a very sympathetic story about addiction. one other thought. open fretting by prosecutors that his drug addiction was a defense to white color crimes. that's ludicrous. it can be a defense when you have something involved spur of the moment action but for months and years of financial transactions drug addiction is a non-starter. if they are floating it out there it tells me we might have a very sympathetic plea agreement coming in the future. >> bill: if it's a tax violation and you paid back the

taxes oftentimes judges go lenient on you. however, the foreign lobbying violation that could, if found guilty on the charge such as that, tie him directly to the president of the united states, could it not? if he is working other countries and companies overseas. >> sure, it could. there is a lot of big questions about not just hunter biden but other people in the family. what you are not hearing at all out of delaware is the word conspiracy. 80% or 90% of white collar cases involve a conspiracy charge and you look outside a single person's actions. it is not sounding like that so far. i think it looks like a very contained and friendly potential agreement coming on the horizon. i am hoping i'm wrong but that's what i'm seeing so far in the tea leaves. >> flashback to then candidate biden saying he never spoke to his son about his foreign business dealings. here it is.

>> [inaudible] >> and then there was this. play that out. >> how many times have you ever spoken to your son about his overseas business dealings? >> i have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings. i've never discussed with my son or brother or anyone else anything having to do with their businesses period. >> the voicemail we heard more recently. you flashback to 2019 and he said over and over again that he never had these discussions. knowing this investigation is ongoing, what does it look like at this stage, jim? >> well, the part about the president's denials were implausible. it is hard to imagine a father doesn't engage in any

conversation with his son while they're flying on air force 2 for business deals. it never wrong as ought then particular comment. the voicemail. to have a comment at the time vice president saying i think you are in the clear is the kind of language that a prosecute or would actually make poster board out of. it would be in front of the grand jury every day saying it was a conspiratorall action and pay to play scheme and more than one participant. whether we'll see that and an integrity test passed by the attorney general on this issue at all is a big if. >> bill: nice to see you. want to emphasize no final decision has been made according to our sources. president biden triggering a minor p.r. ciels is for the white house delivering remarks on climate change in massachusetts when he appeared to tell the audience he has cancer presently.

>> president biden: had to put on the windshield wipers to get the oil slick off the window. that's why i and so many other people who i grew up with have cancer and why delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation. >> bill: that set off the telephone calls to the white house. quickly saying -- he was talking about his past removal of skin cancer. last year a white house physician said it was caused by spending too much time in the sun and made no mention of oil emissions and he told a similar story at previous occasions and chose yesterday in massachusetts. >> that was happening live your america reports. we were covering it at 2:45 eastern time he began speaking and in the moment it was hard to gather exactly what he said. we called for the official record. and sure enough that's when the phone calls went to the white house. a statement was put out almost immediately to try to clarify

that remark but it was something. >> bill: you try to parse has or had. what was it? >> all right. so much for defunding the police. president biden is going to opposite direction from the far left in his own party. he will be traveling to pennsylvania later today pushing a plan to spend $37 billion to prevent violent crime and hire more officers. mark meredith is live at the white house with the latest on all that for us. hello, mark. >> hello, good morning. later today the president will be back on the road. this time in pennsylvania to talk about crime. he will outline how he wants to spend $37 billion. this is an issue that is impacting communities coast to coast not just big cities like new york or d.c. under the president's proposal we see money disbursed to different cities to allow them to hire 100,000 additional police officers and receive more money to help clear some back logs impacting various courts. some violent offenders might be

back in jail. administration assists there are multiple ways to address this issue. >> he has taken every action that he can possibly take as president but there is also a need for congress to take action. we know that the bipartisan bill that was signed a couple of weeks ago was an important first step. >> rising crime may be contributing to the president's dismal polling that shows 67% of people think the country is worse off today than a year ago. now back during the 2020 campaign with crime surging at the height of the pandemic, some democratic candidates called for defunding the police. president biden rejected that as a company hereent strategy and never supported it. with the mid-terms looming democrats appear to be embracing law enforcement. axios reporting this week that some party strategists fear a voter perception don't respect the role police play in keeping communities safe.

the president may be helping to pivot the party that law enforcement needs additional resources. republicans say it's an issue that can't be solved overnight. if the white house wanted to get serious they would start with the border to insist they'll force the laws already on the books. >> mark meredith live at the white house. >> bill: jury reaching a verdict in the killing of david dorn. the late breaking developments on this story coming up in a moment. >> the senate race in battleground pennsylvania. democratic candidate john fetterman giving his first interview since suffering a stroke in may. >> bill: if shark attacks weren't scary enough now a dead great white looking you straight in the eyes. he has to have friends, don't you think washing up on a long island beach? hello.

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>> sandra: a lightning strike kills one soldier and injures nine others at a georgia army based happening during a training exercise. the conditions of the injured service members not known yet. >> bill: hope they get well, right? thank you, sandra. on the big race in mid-terms about 110 days out. president biden goes to pennsylvania today. this is what he is up against. suffolk poll in mid june do you think pennsylvania is heading on the right track or wrong track? a clear majority think their state is going in the wrong direction. has joe

promises in pennsylvania? you can see the red, right? 35%. it almost mirrors his approval rating now in pennsylvania and nationwide. only 35% a clear majority say no on that question. why is pennsylvania so critical? big senate race. talk about that in a moment. three major house races, big governor's race as well. something we'll watch early november. the house race that you have now that really are considered toss-ups. democrats have all three of these house seats at the moment but right now pennsylvania 17 west edge of pittsburgh leans republican. pennsylvania 7 east side of the state leans republican. pennsylvania 8 east side of the state where president biden will be today is considered a toss-up. you see how the balance of power in congress may be determined by what happens in pennsylvania and this senate race right here, fetterman, the democrat, oz the republican. we believe that race today is a

toss-up. with me now dr. mehmet oz to give us the state of the race. waking up near philadelphia today. haven't spoken in a while. good morning. i want to point out two things on the money race on screen he has raised $26 million. a lot of cash. you've raised a lot of money, too, at $19 million. when you look at the polling, fetterman at 46, oz at 37, he leads you by nine points. what do you think the state of the race is as of now, doc? good morning. >> your assessment is right. toss-up for the reasons you've stated as voters in pennsylvania begin to focus in on the real issues that are bothering them. the pocketbook issues, the rampant rise in crime in philadelphia being a good example of a very personal everyday issue here where i live. they're not going to hesitate. joe biden has not addressed their problems. fetterman is a rubber stamp for the biden agenda. he is not visiting those

suffering from his disastrous policies. i'm an immigrant kid and lived the american dream and work hard the opposite of john fetterman. folks in the inner city say they're doing a social experiment, the word they use. no one is paying attention to the unbelievable increase in crime. the most murders in philadelphia history. fetterman is not leaving his home. one-third of all prisoners ought to be released in pennsylvania. this don't connect with what people are experiencing in their day-to-day lives. >> fetterman has some fundraisers scheduled later tonight. no media allowed. the first time he is out there since suffering a stroke on election day. an interview yesterday. physically i have no limits and mentally as i mentioned before the only i shall oouf is my hearing is still a little bit not perfect. i might miss a word every now and then in a conversation or i might slur two words. even then i think it's infrequent. how do you see that?

you are a doctor. you've thought about issues like this for other patients for years. what do you think of that many comment? >> it says i'm not his physician and i can't comment about his case. we don't know anything that happened in may. doctors not allowed to speak about that issue which is a personal choice. i'm less worried about his ability to join the campaign and more worried what he would do if in office in the united states senate. he has very radical ideas including dismantling the energy, which in pennsylvania hurts communities. he doesn't understand the implications of some of his reckless spending desires on inflation. without question a problem to have sanctuary cities in pennsylvania and he is for a porous border. cancel all private healthcare. i went to business school to study healthcare finance. i know his idea of socializing

medicine that he had with bernie saernsd and they call each other the most progressive candidates in americas. not ideas that will work in pennsylvania. he is against a a lot of the desires of parents in pennsylvania. the reasons i think we'll win on dr. oz.com and consider supporting my financially as well. the democrats have brought out the bernie supports. we have better ideas, we have better solution for the big problems facing pennsylvania and ones that work nationally as well. we are a bellwether for the country in terms of policy. >> bill: two quick things. will you debate each other as evidenced? yes or no? >> i would love to debate john fetterman. i will accept any debate offer that comes in. it is pretty early in the campaign so we haven't had a lot of offers but i'll be out there. >> bill: to be determined. you mentioned energy several times in the segment.

in pennsylvania alone, this is how much that state relies on energy. it supports almost half a million jobs. 6% of pennsylvania's total employment provides $40 billion in labor income. 8% of the state's total. contributed $78 billion pennsylvania's gdp. huge in the rural section western part of p.a. you believe southeastern pennsylvania around philadelphia is the key to your victory. explain that in 30 seconds or less. >> we have lots of women in the suburbs who are rethinking who they should vote for. they are worried about their kids and not playing a role in the values and schools that their kids go to and inner city of philadelphia is upset by crime where police are pushed to the side. open warfare many nights and families can't leave their homes. you point out energy. it destroys communities in pennsylvania. when john fetterman fracking and energy are staying in

pennsylvania in pennsylvania it speaks what they're doing. not following the science. arguing the green new deal is the way forward they aren't paying to the attention to the fact it can't happen in the timeline promised. we must have some of the energy in pennsylvania under our feet here come out to support our country, drop prices and help communities. >> bill: we have to go. john fetterman can join us and we hope he takes us up on that. dr. oz, we'll speak down the road. thank you for your time. >> sandra: aoc says don't believe your lying eyes. hitting back on claims she faked being handcuffed at an abortion rights protest after days of criticism and mockery on social media. and stunning video out of utah shows a 4-year-old opening fire on a police officer. the disturbing command from the boy's father moments before that trigger was pulled.

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>> sandra: shocking footage showing a utah child firing a gun at police outside a mcdonalds drive through. police were called to the restaurant after the boy's father threatened a worker over an incorrect order. quick acting cop knocked the weapon aside. no injuries, the child's father reportedly encouraged him to pull the trigger. the boy's father has been charged with child abuse and aggravated assault. >> bill: a man accused of shooting and killing david dorn during the riots of 2020 has been found guilty of first degree murder. a jury deciding that verdict in three hours.

deliberations from chicago. mike tobin reports on that. >> guilty on all counts is what a st. louis jury decided for this 26-year-old man who is now convicted of killing a retired st. louis police captain during the riots that followed the murder of george floyd after three days of evidence and testimony that jury took only three hours to decide that stefan cannon was is guilty. he faces life without parole. david dorn retired from st. louis pd and served in a city nearby. he provided security at a friend's pawnshop. june 2 dorn responded to an alarm when looters ransacked the store he tried to run the looters off cannon turned and fired 10 shots killing him. the widow said she was thankful to the jurors. >> when i heard them say guilty

on murder first, all the stress that had been built up just released. >> the public defender argued there was no physical evidence linking him to the murder. prosecutors never produced the murder weapon and argued the star witness for the state was against a slough of felonies and would say anything to get a plea deal. prosecutors said cannon was the only person standing on the street corner when the deadly shots were fired. >> bill: mike tobin from chicago. >> it takes a minute, let me tell you, to get the evidence i believe they have amassed including blood spatter evidence. >> sandra: disgraced attorney alex murdaugh pleading not guilty to the murders of his wife and son. they were found shot on their south carolina property in june of 2021. jonna spilbor is a criminal

defense attorney. welcome to you. you've seen the cages where they were shot execution style. his family continues to maintain his innocence. the twist and turns in this story are unbelievable. where are things at this moment? >> and have sad. knowing what we know about alex murdaugh's life at this point, the defense strategy of listen, he is not the one who committed these murders is a little head scaefrp. what it is saying he didn't do it. somebody else must have. we know these two people were murdered. it is not an accidental death. somebody did it. when you look at the way this man's life has unraveled from having a son who killed an innocent teenager in a drunk boating accident to financially defrauding his firm and clients and getting disbarred two weeks ago to trying to fake his own murder and in between all that, sandra, his wife and his son get killed but he is not guilty of that piece of what is going on in his life.

it doesn't make sense. i don't know if a jury will buy it. inside the courtroom what struck me is his attorney said my client believes he is innocent. that might seem like a normal phrase that any attorney would say but it's really not. when you defend something you would say i believe my client is innocent and why i'm making this motion. not my client believes he is innocent. >> sandra: it was a red flag? >> a little bit. >> sandra: the texas love triangle, kaitlin armstrong pled not guilty in court. another story we've been following the twists and turns of this. she is accused of killing the cycling pro mo wilson. we go back a long time now to the surveillance video outside of the apartment where she was seen driving by and then she disappeared. where is this today? >> another interesting defense

strategy her. her defense team said we want to rush it to trial and be in trial by october. normally when you are defending somebody you take some time to see where the evidence is going to go so you can fashion a defense. here her attorney is saying we want to go now. that says to me that they don't think -- the dedoesn't think the prosecution will convict her. they want to rush it through. it is a bold move. i don't know if it will work. look at the circumstantial evidence here. jealousy going on. they think her car was in the neighborhood. they find the murder weapon in the apartment she shared with her boyfriend. >> she was seen in the airport leaving. it was amazing they tracked her down because she changed her appearance. >> they originally brought her in for questioning for stealing botox. that's a real novel fact. i would like to know how she

pulled that off. but they didn't have enough to keep her on the murder when they brought her in for that. is there weak evidence we don't know about? that's why it is a bold move by the defense team. >> sandra: they discovered she had had some injuries to herself that would have indicated she was in some sort of struggle or are they still investigating? >> she had some injuries which could have been more botox or she said it was a surfing accident. >> sandra: crazy stories all around. we'll keep watching both of them. good to see you. bill. >> administration simply does not care. they don't care about the migrants who die en route to the united states. they don't care about our border communities that are overrun with this humanitarian crisis. >> bill: you have a record migrant surge colliding with triple digit summer heat. the results are deadly.

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>> sandra: a texas grands jury indicting two men in the deaths of 53 migrants inside an airless trailer. >> not far from where we are right now at the u.s./mexico border in san antonio late last month they recalled tractor trailer was discovered with 53 dead or dying migrants inside.

they likely died agonizing deaths. now a 46-year-old and a 28-year-old both of pasadena, texas are charged with transporting migrants illegally resulting in death. they face life in prison if convicted. late last month it was discovered pack with 67 people. 53 died when the two suspects abandoned the truck with a broken refrigeration system. henry cuellar said 11 of the 53 migrants inside had serious criminal records in the u.s. the dead migrants were coming from mexico, honduras, guatemala and el salvador and we talked to a migrant from guatemala who crossed into the u.s. a 33-year-old told us he had a grueling journey by foot at times taking a bus or whatever means of transportation he could and praying for asylum hoping to settle in dallas, texas to create a better life for his child. he said he was robbed by police along the way, forced to pay officers to continue in his trek to the u.s.

>> every checkpoint they take you off the bus and tell you if you want to keep going, you have to pay, $20, $30, $40. they think you have money even if you tell them no money on me. so they keep going through your pockets. they shouldn't do that but corruption in mexico is a real thing. >> you can see now it's a bit overcast. the temperatures above 100 degrees and sun in the forecast again for today. border patrol officers sweltering in extreme heat standing in the sun in the middle of the day processing migrants. we have seen migrants on the verge of a heat stroke. the heat that played a role in that deaths in the tractor trailer is still here on the ground and the border patrol agents and migrants are battling it every day. >> sandra: matt finn eagle pass for us. thank you very much.

>> the border is secure, the border we are working to make the border more secure. that has been a historic challenge. >> bill: words, the man in charge of the border mayorkas insisting the border is secure. the exact opposite of what my next guest is seeing in eagle pass, texas, the exact opposite of what our reporters are seen every day for two years. today they are averaging 2,000 apprehensions a day and the mayor pro-tem is here. if you had a chance to call mayorkas and you heard that comment, what would you tell him? >> well, i would just tell him the same thing we've been telling people. all you need to do is come to the border and see how it is here. i don't understand how they feel we're secure and our people are secure. what is going on here is unprecedented. it has never happened before. we don't have the means to take care of all this. definitely these people want to move on to somewhere else in

the upper texas, upper united states but nevertheless they are going through here. this is thousands and thousands and thousands of people. just last month we had over 13,000 people that went through here. you mentioned right now in the previous clip and i was sitting here listening. you mentioned that out of the 57 migrants that died in san antonio recently, 11 of them have serious criminal records. so how can we say that we are safe? >> bill: maybe this is his logic to say we're working to make the border more secure. the border is secure. that's what he said. they are building a new facility near eagle pass that i know you are aware of that has the capacity of 1,000 people. so maybe his logic is yeah, it's secure because we can manage the flow. if that's the case, is that true? >> you know what?

they come in groups of 3 to 500. you have 1,000 there. they come in groups of 300 and 500, sometimes more or less per day. how can you say that 1,000 -- they have the huge tents that would house 1,000 people? i don't understand the logic. but i can tell you one thing, nobody from washington has come down here to see what is actually going on here. so they are talking about things that they might see on tv but not living it like we are, you no he? >> bill: no one has been to eagle pass. >> except for texas governor. i am democrat and we have -- i don't have a problem saying it. the republican is the only person who visited our city hall several times and been to the bridge. i'm not saying this is -- i won't get into the politics of it. you know what?

i'm a public servant, not a politician. i am just concerned about what's going on in my community right now and -- >> bill: safety and security for the people you govern. you are right about that. i want you to listen to the new york city mayor and the washington, d.c. mayor. apparently they are getting too many migrants in their towns because of the border. roll this. >> this is a real burden on new yorkers as we are trying to do the right thing. there is just a whole host of things that this is going to produce and that's why we need help. >> we're dealing with a federal issue that the district of columbia won't be able to bear. so it requires the federal response. >> bill: there are hundreds if not 1,000 miles from where you live in eagle pass, texas saying homeless shelters are being overrun. what would you say to those mayors? >> to both of them to all due respect welcome to our world. new york probably has 7

emergency or 8 million people. we're a city of 25,000, maybe 50,000 in our county at the most and we get them by the thousands on a daily basis. if they are getting 2800 a month please, that's -- like they say, out of sight, out of mind and i'm glad about the initiative that texas had to get these people and start busing them over there. maybe they see what is going on down here maybe they can start working what they need to be working on. it is a federal issue and good luck to them. we haven't gotten the help we need for over a year. i don't know how they expect to get it. if they do, i would be interested in knowing it how they get it there and not on the border where it's happening on a daily basis here. >> bill: roland yeah. thank you. eagle pass, texas, i know you are up against it every day. thanks for sharing your story and we'll be in touch with you

again. thank you. >> thank you. >> sandra: two suspects accused of smuggling 150,000 fentanyl pills are due in court but they've been free on the streets for weeks. will they actually show up? plus justice in short supply for the family of a teen killed in seattle's chop zone. now the family is blaming the democratic-run city for his tragic death. the grieving father and his attorney will be with us next. e your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. woah! look out! [sfx: submarine rising out of water ] [ sfx: minion spits bobber ] minions are bitin' today. [ sfx: submarine hatch closes, submarine dives ] ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ hello! minions: the rise of gru, only in theaters. hey! your shipping manager left to “find themself.” leaving you lost.

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>> bill: good song, right? are we really alone, huh? perhaps not. astronomers saying they detected a radio signal from a faraway galaxy pointing out it is flashing repeatedly. the burst of radio signals are billions of light years away. not billions of years, he said

billions of light years. astronomers think they may be coming from a distant neutron star. >> sandra: i'm intrigued by all things space. >> bill: that james webb telescope. who knows what it will do over time, the images. >> >> sandra: love it. more than 2 years since the 16-year-old was shot and killed inside the chop zone in seattle. movement organizers kept police and first responders from the air area for weeks as the situation inside grew increasingly violent and antonia may senior said seattle's failed response is responsible for his son's murder. he and his attorney join us now. antonio, we're so sorry for your loss. as you continue to grieve the loss of your son, why do you believe the city of seattle is responsible for him losing his life? >> when you take a look for me

when i took a look at everything that was taking place around the nation, there were several protests, there were several police precincts being bombarded and everywhere elsewhere they had mayhem and destruction taking place, they were taking steps to get ahold of it. the national guard, or other forces doing whatever they had to do to maintain control of their city and their state and their environments while allowing the protests to go forward. this one city is the only city that didn't do that. they apparently according to the records paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to unknown people -- they weren't police but essentially they made them -- let them police their own

area and they barricaded the area for them and helped them do that. communicated with them and created like a civilian police team is what it looked like. and that doesn't seem to be the protocol for the rest of the nation. so i don't know why this particular city took that stance and then the way that they were pitching it, you know, was summer of love and what have you. it clearly was not what they were saying that it was. >> sandra: yeah. evan, you said there were horrible things going on over there and they didn't do anything to shut it down. what do we know was happening inside of there? >> we know for sure that nine days before antonio mays junior was brutally murdered there was

another young man shot and killed at the chop zone. there was plenty of notice. the city, the state, the county were all on notice. as i recall president trump offered to send in the national guard but it was denied. there was mayhem, there was tremendous amount of violence and madness going on. in fact, there was a war lord that was working with various city officials which we will investigate in more depth through the discovery process. and there were text messages going back and forth. there were photos of various city leaders with this individual. they were assault rifles actually being handed out to this makeshift police force. i call them chop cops by this

war lord, who was essentially a defacto police chief working with or in conjunction with various city leaders. so it is -- >> sandra: i want to make sure i get this in here as we conclude. the mayor did put out a statement, antonio, the death of a child from gun violence is a tragedy no family should have to endure. she trusts the city will respond to the claim in an appropriate manner. we hope you keep us posted on the response from the city and please come back and we'll continue to tell your story. antonio, we grieve with you. thank you for jointion. >> thank you. >> bill: it is 10:00 in new york and deadly fentanyl. it is poisoning america killing thousands every week and hundreds a day. suspected drug runners arrested with 150,000 pills of toxic opioid in california were set

free without bail. to this day they remain missing. the question is where are they? where is the loot and on and on it goes. a new hour begins now. i'm bill hemmer. dana has the day off today and welcome back sandra. >> sandra: good to be here with you this morning. thanks to all of you for joining us as well. i'm sandra smith. the two suspects were allowed to go free with nothing but a promise to show up in court despite their massive haul of deadly drugs. they have likely skipped town by now and disappeared. a man whose son died from fentanyl telling fox the laws need to change. >> lawmakers' job is to keep america safe and this is very obvious that this drug is beyond anything that has ever hit our country before. it is a 747 crashing every day in the united states. and our government does nothing about it. >> bill: full coverage begins now. a sheriff joined us before but

first william la jeunesse is outside the courthouse in california where the suspects will appear today. william. >> bill, we're in the central valley. the spine of california. a major corridor for drugs coming up from mexico. but today is about two things. number one punishment is supposed to fit the crime but if they never show up in court it won't matter. is fentanyl so dangerous it should be treated differently? in june, these two men were arrested caught by the chp for carrying the drugs. basically a million dollars worth of fentanyl and some cocaine as well. well, they were booked but the probation department judged them low risk, no priors, no criminal history, no violence, no victim and released both on

their own recognizance without telling the d.a. or sheriff in less than 24 hours on a saturday. monday morning the sheriff says where are my guys? probation says don't blame us. only the judges release suspects. the court said the judge only followed probation's advice. the d.a. says both screwed up because he never saw a police report and got them charged as the pair got bounced from a holding cell. >> we don't have these decisions being made with at least some semblance of factual information and i don't think they should be occurring in the dark of night on a saturday night without the concurrence or input of the sheriff's department. >> now trafficking charges have been filed against both. a new judge set each of their bail at $2 million. the question is will they show up in court today knowing that each faces probably a decade in prison?

>> thank you. we'll watch it from there. with us now is the sheriff. you see this almost every day would you say? >> we see this far more often than anyone in law enforcement would ever like to see. in california what we're seeing in sacramento criminals are continually being viewed as the victim. we're not focusing on the victims. especially with fentanyl, we have victims of this drug trafficking dying each and every day. one every eight minutes an american dice of fentanyl overdose. >> sandra: a doctor is quoted in the foxnews.com piece out of louisiana saying it is probably the most dangerous time to be a teenager in america. that's a scary statement about this time in our country's history. >> i think it's true. if you look at the leading cause of death between adults between 18 and 45, it is fentanyl overdose. these pills that are coming across our open border is

absolutely one of the biggest issues that we're facing as a country. i don't understand when we close our schools, we close our small businesses due to covid and the seriousness of what that entails, but we find the death across america with the fentanyl overdose freely coming across an open border but yet our border remains open. it completely makes no sense to anyone in law enforcement. >> bill: you are right about that. the quote that sandra just read should be a five alarm fire for this country and it is not. last week the head of the d.e.a. said this about children gaining access to pills. they think it is one thing but it is laced with something that can kill them. listen. >> this is all deliberate, calculated treachery from the drug cartels. when they say it is add roll on social media it isn't. there isn't a single part of those fake pills that are the

real narcotic. you cannot buy a real drug. >> bill: listen to what she said. you have 7300 pounds seized at the border so far this year and the states where fake pill deaths have been linked to social media is now up to 22. sheriff, i don't see this stopping, do you? >> i don't see it stopping until our legislatures and people in power and government take it seriously. i would argue that none of them have been victims of any crime. when we're looking at police officers and cops across this country being seen as the criminal, it's time that we reverse the role. criminals are not the victim. the people who are being exposed to this type of drug are children. it is very, very dangerous. i was invited to a facebook page of lives lost by fentanyl since being on the show the first time. i am amazed at the families that are impacted by the deaths

of their loved one each and every day. yet our borders are open. but yet no one is taking this seriously. we have to focus on making sure that the people who live in this country are kept safe through their law enforcement. law enforcement is not the bad guy. criminals need to be held accountable. we're not doing that, at least not here in california. >> sandra: it says dealers are going where the money is and there are kids with money. so anybody who thinks it is affecting just one segment of the population in this country are wrong saying the drug traffickers have found social media a way of advertising theirwares and no one is safe from this. >> no one is safe. these counterfeit pills coming in from china through mexico across the open border, no one is safe.

our children are in danger. the lives of americans are in jeopardy because of this drug. it is one of the most dangerous drugs that i have seen in my 35 years of law enforcement here in california. >> bill: you are doing the right thing. you have the right message. our best to your men and women who are trying to fight a good fight. thank you for your time today. >> sandra: thank you, sir. >> thank you. thank you. >> president biden: i come here today with a message. as president i have a responsibility to act with urgency and resolve when our nation faces clear and present danger. and that is what climate change is about. >> sandra: president biden justifying his executive actions on climate change yesterday declaring it an emergency. some of his colleagues say he didn't go far enough in the speech and now pushing for the president to declare an official national climate emergency. connell mcshane is live in pennsylvania for us at this hour where the president will

be later today. he is getting a lot of reaction to his speech for various reasons. mostly for calling this at an emergency at a moment we're experiencing a real weather emergency in this country. >> then from the other side the more progressives for not going far enough and declaring a formal emergency which is still not clear whether he will end up doing. it would give him the power to ban oil exports. the president focused on what he can do by way of executive action talked about improving infrastructure so it can withstand extreme climate. then right at the end of his remarks he dropped maybe a few hints about what the future may hold. >> president biden: a single republican in congress stepped up to support my climate plan. not one. so let me be clear. climate change is an emergency and in the coming weeks i'll use the power i have as president to turn these words

into formal, official government actions through the appropriate regulatory power a president possesses. >> the 94 executive orders this president has signed so far actually put him ahead of the pace of the previous three presidents. he could continue down that road. many times the orders if you look back have been focused on issues like this where he doesn't have the votes in congress to pass legislation. >> president biden: as president i will use my executive powers to combat the climate crisis in the absence of congressional action. >> i want to talk about an executive order i'm signing to protect the rights of women and the wrong decision. delivered the most significant police reform in decades. >> the last one on police reform was in may. that topic with a new twist is back in the news in pennsylvania today. the president plans to detail

how he would spend the $37 billion already in his budget proposal. quite notable today the president will focus, we're told, on funding the police, not defunding. he will talk about funding the police as violent crime is an issue top of mind for so many mid-term voters in key swing states like this one, pennsylvania. back to you. >> sandra: thank you very much. >> bill: on that last point we've been waiting for this pivot. we've been waiting for this pivot for some time. if they'll call for more money for cops in america it is a change from what we've heard for some time. the post democratic party theory of politics appears to be the system no longer works. issue presidential executive orders. the tactics produce publicity but a problem remains. it is not sustainable. we've seen that for many presidents in a row in washington, d.c.

whether or not the courts will accept what the executive order is remains to be seen. >> sandra: it is being challenged by mainstream media by declaring a climate emergency and now a weather emergency 115 degrees. there is an immediate risk of people losing electricity that needs to be dealt with as well and the possibility of a major storm coming. >> bill: aoc clarifying her actions after this big arrest over the week a couple days ago. denies being fake handcuffed at the abortion rights protest near the supreme court. this is tuesday. aoc and 16 other squad members were detained for blocking traffic. on twitter she is encouraging others to follow her lead saying it is the best practice for anyone who is detained so the situation does not escalate. >> sandra: she let --

>> bill: handcuffed or not got it. that was the tweet. >> sandra: she left room for speculation. she didn't put the statement out. i saw that at 2:00 p.m. yesterday after this happened the day before. my guess was she was going to -- raising of the hand which is interesting. my guess was that she was going to say she was trying to show she was complying with the police. but it is the optics of it brought that into question. house january 6 committee gearing up for a prime time series tonight. a pair of former white house aides and what they are expected to divuj. >> hard to believe the president's poll numbers are hitting another all-time low. they only go lower. can he turn it around? is it insurmountable? bret baier will analyze that coming up. >> sandra: a stranded kayaker who says he had resigned

himself to dying at sea miraculously rescued. it is happening there and show you how it happened. >> what happened here? >> my kayak went down. it literally probably -- i don't know, probably 2 1/2 miles.

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>> sandra: the january 6 panel gearing up for another prime time hearing on capitol hill tonight the committee will take a closer look into former president trump's actions during the capitol riot. aishah hosni is live on the hill for us at this hour with what to expect. hi, asia. >> good morning, sandra. tonight two hour-long prime time hearing is expected to be a deep dive into what former president trump was doing during 187 minutes of that riot between the time that he left his rally to the time that he released that video telling protestors to go home. now, today's witnesses are former white house aides matthew pottinger and sarah matthews. matthews was a deputy press secretary part of the white house press shop there. both of these people quit on january 6th after witnessing what happened.

you can also expect the panel to give us more details about that alleged physical confrontation between the former president and secret service agents who would not take him to the capitol. you remember a former white house aide testified about this at a previous hearing but those agents have rejected that account. the committee is also expected to get into the missing secret service messages, the agency designs it mall issuesly deleted the text messages and only turned over one text message to the committee in response to their subpoena. chairman bennie thompson has said earlier this week the panel will take whatever action they need to get those text messages. >> secretary of homeland security again i talked to and we'll try to get it, you know. some of those documents are required by law to be protected. so we will use whatever method

we need to to get it. >> interestingly enough a scaled-back version of this report is expected in september. we don't know yet when that full report comes out. could be closer to the mid-terms. sandra. >> sandra: thank you. >> bill: thanks. 22 past the hour. there is a new poll from quinnipiac that shows the president's approval rating hitting a new all-time low. 31%. bret baier host of special report here to talk about it. good morning to you. it is not quite tom petty free falling but it is how low can you go? quinnipiac is not alone. every poll that comes out, that number notches down lower and lower, bret >> real clear politics average of recent polls at its lowest point. the crazy part is if you look inside these polls, the independents are super low and hispanics are super low when it

comes to the president's approval. this is not a good sign for democrats. i will put the caveat on there. >> bill: can i pause you a moment? breaking news now. according to reuters now from the white house, the white house is saying president biden has tested positive for covid-19. he is experiencing very mild symptoms and he has started taking paxlovid. tested positive. experiencing very mild symptoms and is taking the drug paxlovid. we'll get more information as we go. he was traveling yesterday to massachusetts and overseas last week. could be anywhere. sandra, do you have something else? >> sandra: the president is going to isolate at the white house and continue to carry out

all duties during this time. >> bill: so you have to think, bret, that with all the breakthrough cases around the world, whether you are vaxxed or not with the president mixing with so many people and they had the whole idea about the fist bumps in saudi arabia and fist bumps in israel. by all accounts that lasted a few seconds and went back to the traditional way of shaking hands. when you are exposed to that many people you feel as if it could be inevitable. >> yeah. we've seen cases go up in recent weeks because of the different variants. this is interesting. the white house putting out this statement saying the president contacted staff by phone this morning. he is doing zooms from the residence and he is meeting with white house protocol. but they are going to have all contacts that he made and listen, the president comes in contact with a lot of people. not just the trip to the middle east but dealing with staff

members as well as congress. so for a man his age you have to be very careful. remember when president trump was diagnosed and tested positive for covid and the uproar about that. it was before all of the vaccines and everything we've seen with covid. but this is the first time that president biden has tested positive and it is a story of national significance obviously. >> bill: getting the whole statement from the press secretary that reads five different paragraphs here. excuse my back for a moment per standard protocol for positive cases the white house medical unit will informal close contacts to the president during the day today including members of congress or press who interacted during yesterday's travel in massachusetts that i mentioned. the last previous test for covid was tuesday when he had a negative test result. i don't know what his protocol

is, whether or not he was given a covid test by the day or whether or not it was a couple of -- every other day. i don't know what they've been doing lately. do you have a read by chance? >> as far as how many times he gets the test? i think it's a couple of times a week right now. >> bill: what else there? >> sandra: once he tests negative he will return to in-person work. that's interesting, bret, right? for all of us who experienced this over the years we know that can positivity can last for quite some time in some cases even weeks. >> yeah. and listen, he says -- they say he has experienced very mild symptoms. if you are vaccinated and we've seen people bounce back from this very easily especially the latest variant. but you have to be cautious. i think that this is just an interesting time because you've got different states doing different things.

san diego school district mandating that kids have to wear masks. have to wear masks and if they don't they shouldn't show up for school. now you have the president with covid and it brings back this whole public policy issue about covid and where we are. i don't think that there are going to be any cdc guidelines that somehow are anywhere near as strict as they were over the past couple of years but it brings the issue back front and center when the president tests positive. >> before the trip to saudi arabia and middle east he was on the south lawn of the white house shaking a lot of hands, too. stand by. a lot of people in the hopper. let's go to the white house and talk to mark meredith what he is hearing from that statement and beyond possibly. what do you have? >> good morning to you. we've talked about the main headline but also something the white house has been preparing forever since the president took office. this is something they knew was certainly going to be a possibility. want to give you a sense it's been like when you go into the room with the president of the united states these days.

there are still precautions being taken. if you are members of the pool, a group of reporters that go into the oval office, state dining room and different events have to be tested in order to get access into that room beforehand. they want to make sure anybody coming into contact with the president wouldn't be covid positive. the event that happened last week when the president was on the south lawn. it was an outdoor event and so many people there, hundreds of people there to talk about gun violence but the event was outside and the president has made it clear he believes that these outdoor events would be safe. the white house itself relaxed a lot of covid policies compared to where we were a year ago. in the summer of 2021 when you would come on this campus it was a ghost town. nobody was here or the people you would run into would be double masked. cases continued to go down and the severity of symptoms have gone down with vaccinations we've seen those restrictions get lax. even in the press area it is rare to see a mask these days. the briefings we saw where all

the reporters were spaced out and everybody masked and you couldn't be in there if you weren't wearing a max. that's all gone. the majority of the policies have been lifted. when the president was going to massachusetts on marine one all of the staff that was following behind him were wearing masks. it was interesting. they were getting on the chopper and i saw the press secretary put on her mask before going onto marine one. the president wasn't wearing his but they were still taking precautions with the president. you talked about the travel he did last week. with international trips the stakes would be high and wanted to test him beforehand. he wasn't getting tested on a daily basis. we would ask when was the last time the president would get tested and the white house would have to get back to us and check with those records. we know it wasn't necessarily on a daily basis. let's talk about how it will impact the schedule going forward. the president was set to go to pennsylvania scranton area later today to talk about how he would combat crime and

spending the weekend at his home in wilmington, delaware. he will now be isolating at the white house. there was also some interesting moments earlier in the week. it could be pure coincidence that monday and tuesday he didn't hold any public events. questions as to what was he doing behind the scenes? the white house said he was hard at work holding a lot of meetings. the president felt well enough to travel just yesterday. so we look to see whether or not the schedule was already changed once because of an early sign of symptoms. the white house saying the president has very mild symptoms right now and also point to his vaccination status as well as boosting status. they want to make it clear they believe the people who had the vaccines will be okay. the message we heard from the white house before even when the numbers of covid cases went up earlier. >> bill: one question for me, mark. what you are saying is there wasn't a daily protocol for him getting a test and what you are saying is that did not change even with the travel overseas. >> he was tested before he went

overseas, we know that. in terms of what was happening in the last day he wasn't getting tested on a daily basis. reporters would ask when was the last time the president got tested and the white house would have to say let me check and get back to you. if it was a daily basis they would say every day. >> sandra: the last statement in the white house press release here is that the president's last previous test for covid was tuesday when he had a negative test result. he was obviously traveling and delivering the speech yesterday afternoon so sometime between yesterday afternoon when he flew back to washington and now with the positive test. this could be the very beginning stages of his positivity. according to what they say he will do, work in isolation until testing negative it goes way above and beyond even as the white house statement notes cdc protocol as it is today. >> the white house is a big place so he will have plenty of

room to spread out. i was looking to see. i don't see a marine at the west wing door right now. an indication the president would be in the residence at this moment. he did get back yesterday afternoon. i know he spoke to some reporters after he got off air force one and he was back at the white house around 5:00 p.m. yesterday. he got back at a decent hour. contact tracing, this is also interesting. let's say if i were to test positive when i came to the white house they would ask me when was the last time i saw the president. the white house medical office would try to signal with anybody covid positive came into contact with the president or high-level official. wanted to work backwards. in this case they'll try to do contact tracing to find out whether this came from somebody in senior staff, somebody he met with with when he was in massachusetts. members of the massachusetts congressional delegation with the president yesterday. i believe it was two senators traveling with him. we'll have to wonder if they

have to isolate now. there will be a lot of scrutiny how the white house may react. so many questions about what it would mean for president biden given his age and right now the white house saying experiencing mild symptoms and continue to monitor but the president is still working from here. >> bill: stand by a moment and have doctors coming up. be patient with us. i know you are not a doctor. i have a question about the medical protocol for something like this. want to bring in bret baier again on this. there will be a briefing thursday afternoon we're told and the doctor who is in charge of the covid-19 response coordinator to the white house will be there. he was with harvard and went to brown. now he is at the white house. he was a great source of information for us during the early days of the pandemic. bret, i wonder and the doctors can answer this for us in a minute here given his age, given the vulnerability when you are fist bumping for shaking hands or breathing the same air of others overseas in rooms where you aren't sure

whether or not they have the virus, whether they could be infected or whether they were tested or not. it would seem that given the stakes, how high they are, that a daily test would be reasonable in my view. >> right. listen, the president is in that age in the vulnerable age group. he is taking paxlovid, an oral antiviral pill created by pfizer. it is designed to treat covid-19 in the early days if you test positive. you take this pill, three pills twice a day for five days and it is, according to the tests that they've done on it, 89% effective of keeping people out of the hospital and getting very sick. add to that that the president has been twice vaccinated and twice boosted, he has a lot of vaccination and now the paxlovid as well. we didn't hear a lot about the antivirals in the fighting of

covid. now a lot of doctors think it is a game changer and may be for the president if he is only experiencing mild symptoms. >> sandra: if you could stand by we want to bring in dr. jerome adams. former u.s. surgeon general. we're breaking this news right now and i'm looking back at a flashback to the press secretary at the white house when she was asked multiple times the testing regimen for the president. the white house is saying he was last tested negative on tuesday so sometime in the last 48 hours he did test positive but your reaction right now and, of course, how the white house would be handling this situation. >> well, one of the things i want to say to folks is that first of all, my thoughts and prayers go out to the president and i'm praying for him no matter whether you like him or not he is the leader of our country and we want him to be safe just as we wanted president trump to be safe back when he was diagnosed. i also want people to understand that the white house

medical unit is going to be in charge of his care. that's an important distinction. when people asked me questions back when president trump was diagnosed, i had to constantly explain to them that the white house medical unit handles his care not the surgeon general of the united states or not the white house covid coordinator. but that said, you bring up an important point. i think the american people do need to understand what is the testing regimen for the president of the united states. what are the protective mechanisms going all the way back to the white house correspondents dinner they had, the rhetoric and decrease of focus on protecting the president. this is the leader of the free world and we want to know, americans deserve to know what was being done to protect him and who else he exposed. he is around a lot of people on a regular basis. but as you heard people say, he

is vaccinated, boosted, up to date on vaccinations, taking paxlovid. all the things rerecommend for high risk people but everyone right now to think about doing to protect themselves. i hope he will be okay. >> bill: are you back home in indianapolis? >> i am, correct. >> bill: with your patients, given the age range with the president right now, do you recommend getting the test more frequently or do you recommend waiting to see how you feel before getting a test? >> well, that's a great question and it speaks to a point i bring up frequently. we still don't have a national testing strategy. here is what i tell individuals and what i do for myself. many folks have heard me talk about this. i have high blood pressure and asthma and considered at higher risk than the average person. if i have symptoms, i absolutely test. if i am in a situation where i

may be exposed to people who have covid, then i will test. and i travel frequently so i will test when i am going into an environment where i may expose other people or before i come back home around my wife who has been treated for cancer. so it is going to depend on the person. if you have symptoms and beyond that based on your circumstances and risks and need to make more tests available to people across the country so they can do that to protect themselves. >> sandra: based on your comment about your spouse. it appears nbc is reporting the first lady tested negative for covid this morning in detroit per her office. so we'll continue to follow up on that as well. >> bill: great to see you, doctor, stand by, we may come back to you. jerome adams the former surgeon general. another doctor now, dr. marc sealing. good morning. our first chance to get reaction from you.

go ahead, paxlovid and mild symptoms. put it all together. >> the first thing i want to do is contrast this from when president trump had this in october of 2020 and i interviewed him and he ended up with pneumonia in the hospital. he got monoclonal antibodies and this is an enormous difference. the way it should be messaged from the white house is look, he had two vaccines, he had two boosters, we have paxlovid. his symptoms are mild congestion. even at his age, 79 1/2 years old, the chances are he is going to do very well. that shows you how far we have come. he has underlying medical conditions as you know. he has heart disease, a fib, he has to be very carefully watched because of his age and underlying heart disease but we have tools now that we can use that we didn't have before and they work. >> sandra: dr. siegel if you could stand by we'll head back to the white house where mark

meredith is standing by. we are also getting an update from the white house press team that jean-pierre will have a briefing with the doctor in charge of all of this, the covid response. the timing is still coming together but it looks like early afternoon. we would certainly take that update live from the white house. what new information do you have now, mark? >> this is going to be important. the president's medical team being out there to answer reporters' questions will give the press a better idea when he talk about mild symptoms what do those mean. what about the president's age, whether or not it would have any impact on what his covid recovery will be like? they were asking about the briefing specifically. there wasn't going to be an on-camera briefing because he was due to go up to pennsylvania. now that he is staying here the without press secretary and medical team will take questions from the briefing room and curious to see if we may see another shift in white

house covid protocols now that the president has it. do we go back to masks. it could be a differentiator. no immediate changes. for the president's schedule no longer going to pennsylvania, no longer going to his home in delaware for the weekend but we'll hear from the president's medical team directly. as you can imagine a lot of questions about not only how this happened, but what it will be like going forth. >> bill: get back to dr. siegel. bret, i want to bring you back into our conversation to understand what is ahead. it's a waiting game for the next several days i would say. >> it is. we'll track what the white house says about the president's condition and how he is feeling. i just want to point out that yesterday he traveled to massachusetts along with democratic senators from massachusetts, elizabeth warren and markey and democratic congressman clause and keating. don't know from their offices yet whether they are going to

have to isolate as well. the other thing to point out is yesterday was a speech in which the president said something that everybody's ears perked up telling a story about delaware and the situation in delaware and he said i like many others have cancer. and then remember after this the white house comes out and says he was talking about moles being removed and skin cancer. but it was just a moment in which people perked up about his health. we hear from the white house about how he is healthy but we haven't had a real breakdown about his health situation and obviously they will be in this mode of providing day-to-day updates as we heard from the white house from president trump as he was dealing with covid in the early days. as dr. siegel said this is light years from where we were then and the treatments and the vaccines and the paxlovid where we are now.

>> sandra: thank you, bret. >> bill: dr. marc siegel. you were listening to all of this. when the white house announced the trip to the middle east and this whole fist bump idea came out, they were mocked by a lot of people thinking what is that all about? you as a medical physician, does a fist bump prevent contact now or just breathing air could even bring the virus into your body still? >> i want to go over that because bret made a good point. you have been saying that the president's wife jill biden hasn't come down with it. i want you to know that even within a household only 1 out of 3 people get it who are exposed to it. with all the exposure he has had the last few days everybody needs to be tested and for sure some of them could get it but it may very well be that they don't because it is only, again, 1 out of 3. and bill, the fist bump is not

going to prevent spread at all. in close quarters inside a high-quality mask helps and i think that obviously not exposing people by not going out and getting frequent testing helps. key issues. another point that bret made that i was thinking, too, was yesterday when he had all that confusion about cancer and that speech he might already have been suffered from covid and covid causes a certain amount of confusion and brain fog. it may take a while to clear. look for fatigue, fever, problems concentrating and upper respiratory and sore throat are most common. with this sub variant we aren't seeing the same symptoms we saw previously. that's good news. it tends to affect the upper respiratory, not deep into the lungs. even at his age with paxlovid

and monoclonal antibody that works against it, all those tools help. >> sandra: interesting the a.p.'s write-up put it in perspective. the second obvious u.s. president to contract this virus, really showing the degree to which this virus has infiltrated american society and you can make the case around the world with world leaders contracting this virus. we know that the first lady is traveling right now. we have seen photos of her. she is masked up. there are reports she has tested negative but they will have to go down the line here. there has been a lot of contact with the president traveling. >> sandra, you bring another good point up. one negative test is not enough. with omicron can it test negative for a few times and a lot of confusion from my patients on this. dr. biden will have to continue to test. exposure doesn't come out right away. you can test negative one day and positive the next.

i would caution that anyone in very close contact with the president should not be going around shaking hands or close quarters with people right now. >> bill: he has been double vaxxed and double boosted and in your own practice you still see infections come through your office, right? >> bill, just yesterday a big study came out and showed the second booster has a big impact in decreasing severity. this has been mismessaged all along. it doesn't prevent spread so it does decrease the risk of ending up in the hospital and that's one of the other good signs the president himself may recover without a severe outcome here which we are all hoping and praying for. >> bill: would you concede it was messaged wrong when americans were told to get the shot they made it seem it was an inoculation. it wasn't. >> i agree with that. the mandates go right along with that. when you mandate something you better be sure it prevents spread. if it spreads anyway you are

punishing people when you shouldn't be. i think they took way too long to pivot away from that. to be fair, the original strain was 90 to 95% the vaccine at preventing spread. that's huge. but very quickly we moved away from that and they should have messaged decrease of severity. stops hospitalization. decreases your risk of death where the vaccine hits the money. >> bill: stand by, back to the white house we go on this breaking news. mark meredith, what do you have now? >> believe it or not we have got reaction coming in from all over washington from people you may not think supportive of the president. texas senator ted cruz say heidi and i will lifting him up in prayer. may he have a swift and full recovery. hearing from iowa senator chuck grassley. a sign that lawmakers are putting politics aside to allow the president to focus on this recovery and the white house says he will be able to work you would imagine it would have

an impact on his schedule going forward. the vice president is on the road in north carolina holding a few different events today and look to see whether or not he offers any other on-camera comments or changes her schedule over the weekend or not. hearing from a number of lawmakers offering thoughts and support and i imagine we'll be hearing more of these throughout the day. >> bill: we're watching the wires and the video come in to us from various parts of the country. kamala harris is in charlotte. the first lady is in michigan seen wearing a mask. that event continues for her. for the moment the white house is going forward with the exception of the president with today's duties. >> what i would imagine there are questions why the first lady will be okay to travel or whether she changes her protocol. it will come up in the days and weeks ahead looking to see

whether there is a further outbreak or someone else in the west wing that may test positive as well. with the president's medical team briefing we get an idea how they learned of this or whether or not there was changes and symptoms that may have prompted the test. that was something bret was talking about. people were confused by some of the president's comments. he made a few mistakes in his speech. no indication whether it was covid related or not. outdoor event and hot and questions whether he wasn't necessarily feeling great yesterday or whether or not that change today. >> sandra: keep us posted live from the white house. i know that dr. marty makary is joining us now. thanks for jumping on with us. for anybody tuning in now the president tested positive for covid. he has mild symptoms. he is going to isolate at the white house, continue to carry out all his duties. going above and beyond cdc guidance he will work in

isolation until he tests negative. says the statement from the white house. while significant news we're in a different world as far as the pandemic is concerned. president is fully vaccinated and boosted twice and experiencing mild symptoms. this is what many of us in this country have experienced through this pandemic. >> bill: if i could a doctor came details trorters at the white house. according, paxlovid started just now. tired, runny nose, dry cough. went to bed, felt fine. didn't sleep well and tested positive this morning. doctor, wanted to make sure you had that information. >> nobody should be dying of covid in the united states given the state-of-the-art care. i'm not concerned about a serious case of anything developing. this news strikes me the same as the news as if he would

would have a common cold or flu. he received a booster as late as march. the effect of that booster is kicking in now. he is well protected. we wish him well. i am not concerned about a severe case or hospitalization. >> sandra: waiting on more details. the press briefing will happen this afternoon and get more details. we wish the president well. there is a protocol in place. the white house says he will go above and beyond. somebody in an age category that you would be concerned. he experiencing mild symptoms and boosted twice. the antiviral. why administer that if you are experiencing mild symptoms? to prevent it from getting worse in the days and hours to come? >> it does block vier us a replication and people turn to it. but i'm not sure every physician would be recommending

it for mild symptoms. it is not authorized for this particular indication. it was authorized for people with no immunity who a high risk. there is a risk of it rebounding. he took paxlovid and got a rebound case worse than the initial case. i'm not sure every physician would recommend paxlovid. >> bill: we just got a connection with admiral brett giroir. if you can hear us and you have the news, i see you right now, sir, thank you for joining us. dr. makary is suggesting that everything will be okay in the end and he is getting the right treatment. how do you view this in the early stages, sir? >> i think we need to be quite careful because the president is at advanced age. he also has underlying health conditions and a-fib and

previous aneurysms and stokes. i wouldn't be as rosie that everything will be fine. he is at risk. the other issue i would say is paxlovid is a very good drug but it has drug/drug interactions with many of the drugs i believe the president is on including blood thiners and it could cause dangerous changes in that. i'm sure the white house medical unit is monitoring that. but that is one issue with paxlovid in the in addition rebound i would look for in the president. >> sandra: he has just been administered this antiviral. what's the risk to dr. makary's point if he is only experiencing mild symptoms, experienced fatigue, which is involved in many of the cases. what is the risk to administering the antiviral if it isn't absolutely necessary based on the symptoms?

>> well, you have to look at the risks. for paxlovid is an effective drug but the main risk is drug/drug interactions. what it does to the other drugs you're on. there is a dangerous interaction with blood thiners and i'm not the president's doctor but with his conditions i believe he could be on them. the white house medical unit. this would be something i would ask them. are they concerned about that. i don't think there are many other risks. the other drug can be given with other drugs so i'm sure the white house medical unit will be looking for that. i would definitely have the president on an antiviral drug either paxlovid or another one. they were authorized in patients not vaccinated. that's the way the trial was done. there is every reason to believe that paxlovid or the other drug would reduce the viral load in every patient and certainly someone as elderly

and high risk. i think it's very appropriate what they're doing with the president. >> dr. marc siegel, you are listening and we put the conditions on the screen. paxlovid coming now. went to bed, felt fine. didn't sleep well and tested positive this morning. does it sound like a typical case to you. >> very typical for the sub variant. he probably has the va.5 that we see a lot of. mostly upper respiratory. dry cough and fatigue fits that. the one thing i want to agree with the admiral is this. 79 years old with heart disease and a-fib may have mild symptoms but it can turn more severe later on quickly. he had the booster, the fourth shot but it was in march and only tends to last powerfully for a month or two and starts to wane. the idea of giving paxlovid

will be automatic and smart. the rebound, there is no point that it is the drug causing that. dr. fauci have that. give a second round of paxlovid. smart idea because he is high risk. i agree with the admiral. >> bill: what about what admiral giroir said about the medications he is currently on and the possibility they could counteract with paxlovid. >> very good point. for sure the white house doctors are on this. he will stop the cholesterol lowering drug. you don't take a statin and as far as the blood thinner, he should continue to be on that. they'll look at it. covid can cause problems with blood clots, you want to watch that. they'll go over every

medication he is on and see if there is an interaction. it's a knee jerk situation that you stop. you only stop it for five days on the medication and then you restart it again. >> bill: back with you now. we're fortunate to have the expertise of both of you right now. admiral, i just wonder 2 1/2 years down the road here. we've come a long way. when you think about the reaction now as compared to wow, the dark days of march 2020. >> it's remarkable the tools we have. the virus has been very formidable. we know the different variants evading the immune system but vaccines do help the president. it doesn't protect well against getting the virus but provides protection against hospitalization and death. testing is ubiquitous. 800 million tests available this month in the united states based on the work we did in the

trump administration, home tests, rapid tests, molecular tests are there and very importantly and something we've underemphasized is the treatment. paxlovid and the other drug are highly effective. when we get to a point now. even vaccinated and tested people at risk need to be treated with antivirals. we have enormous weapons developed against this virus. still a battle. i think the president epitomizes and is an example of everything we should be doing. monitoring, testing and getting those at risk tweeted. >> sandra: going back to your initial word of caution that it is still early on and just began the antiviral and early on in symptoms it appears. just experiencing them for the first time this morning. he went to bed feeling fine and tested positive this morning after the mild symptoms. based on all of that what would your recommendation be for

someone of his age and risk category? the white house is saying that he is going to continue working in full capacity, participating in zoom meetings. he is not going to back off the white house says any of his daily obligations as the president of the united states. would you recommend more rest for someone of his age and risk category? >> let me first say i have the highest respect for the white house medical unit. we work with them on a daily basis supplying tests and understanding protocols and working with president trump. we're different but work together. i would just be very careful with the president. look, we all want him to recover. we need him to have continuity of leadership. i wouldn't rush it. he is in a high risk group with his age and underlying conditions and he should feel free to take it easy, right? many of us have had covid.

you don't feel well. i'm just -- i would say caution is what i should do and he should only do what he really feels like doing. remember, it is important to get plenty of fluids and have proper knew -- nutrition. i would be cautious. >> bill: thank you for your expertise. thank you for coming on. one last thing here the symptoms started yesterday so that was wednesday. did not anticipate that breaking news. great to be with you. harris will continue our coverage now. here is the "the faulkner focus". >> harris: thank you, bill and sandra. breaking news on the president of the united states. our continuing coverage. president biden has tested positive for covid. i'm harris faulkner. you are in "the faulkner focus". the white house said he is experiencing what they call mild symptoms. he is now in isolation. the president has referenced his health during his ce