that age and aspiring. >> yes. i was that kid with the rolling book bag at the tournaments, and i was a cheerleader and i loved being here around people just like me. remind me of myself. >> spend all the weekend on fox nation watching you guys at turning point. thank you. >> thanks for watching, have a great weekend. "america reports" now. >> sandra: growing health concerns for president biden after he tested positive for covid yesterday. the diagnosis coming questions even some in his party about whether he is up for the job. >> john: a report earlier this week claiming top democrats were already touching base with donors, just in case the president decided not to run for re-election. could this latest development jump start the search in earnest for a candidate to replace him in 2024? much more on this with trump

2020 director of press communications and the former campaign surrogate president biden. >> sandra: new york republican gubernatorial candidate zelden hitting the trail one day after he was attacked on stage by a man trying to stab him. quite something to see that video. >> john: the video no question is shocking. we'll get reaction as well. lawmaker talking to reporters last hour about the shocking experience, and the need to reform bail laws. put the suspect back on the streets shortly after the attack. >> only one option. dramatic video showing the man armed with the weapon approached

zelden on stage. he was charged with felony assault, but then released from custody without bail. outcome that zelden predicted would happen due to the new york lenient bail laws. >> sandra: and the man who helped sub sue the suspect will speak with us in a moment. and andy mccarthy is here to weigh in on the punishment he should be facing, and what do we know about the alleged attacker? >> well, sandra, authorities are saying the man who allegedly assaulted congressman lee zelden, 43-year-old, the weapon looked like brass knuckles with two sharp strikes. zelden said he was told the attacker might have been drunk and had mental health issues, felony, second degree assault, released in his own recognizance. it took place near rochester,

new york, zelden was calling for a change for the cashless bail, and talking about people relocating to other states because of high crime when he was interrupted. >> this is our last stand for new york. and there's only -- there's only one option. >> zelden was not injured. soon after that incident he tweeted out what happened. "his words, he tried to stab me, you are done, several attendees, including his running mate quickly jumped into action and tackled the guy. the attacker will be instantly released under new york laws" and that's exactly what happened. zelden, meanwhile, says he will not let the incident disrupt his campaign. >> i thought it was important to get back up on the stage last night, as soon as the sheriffs removed the attacker.

i went to go finish the speech. i think it's important for us to always be standing up for what we believe in, not to be intimidated. in our great country -- >> zelden's opponent, kathy hochul tweeted out, i condemn this violent behavior in the strongest terms possible. it has no place in new york. surge in crime is a major issue in the race for governor and at his rally today, zelden said if elected, he would remove from office new york city controversial district attorney alvin brag who critics accuse being soft on crime. zelden says security will be beefed up for the remainder of his campaign. sandra. >> sandra: thank you very much, david lee miller in new york city. john. >> john: joe serves as the national director for amvets and helped wrestle down the suspect before he could stab zelden, and

you are a former marine, and combat veteran in iraq and afghanistan, walk us through what happened just outside of rochester yesterday and did your marine training innately kick i think when you saw the threat. >> it did. i'm actually running for the new york assembly as well, i was the master of ceremonies, i introduced him, positive energy until this occurred, about 300 people. i was standing off stage as the congressman was giving his speech i saw this guy jump up on to the stage, i ran around the back of the stage and came up behind the congressman to see why this guy was going where he didn't belong. didn't know if he was maybe coming up to give the congressman a hug, i've seen happen, or maybe argue with him, but he came right up to the congressman, yelled at him that he was done, and then from his

right hand, which i could not see until it came up with the weapon, the edged weapon, tried to strike the congressman who blocked it. grab his wrist. as he pulled his wrist back to swing again, i grabbed the attacker, bear hugged him and took him down to the ground, several of the people came in quickly to help restrain him. as i was wrestling with him, i knew he had the blade on the other side of him, and i looked over, and saw the lieutenant governor also retired nypd, knew i was in good hands and we worked together and she removed the blade, she did cut her hand. >> good work. >> sandra: we are showing the video, you are the man in the red shirt, standing down below, we see you get up on the stage, right? >> that's me, yes. >> sandra: amazing stuff to watch, you obviously stepped in, things could have been much, much different had you not done what you did. what do you make of the fact the

attacker has already been released? >> i'm outraged by it. it's preposterous. i live in this community, obviously, and these bail reform laws are not making anyone safer. in fact, they are endangering us, and also endangering the attacker here. i spent five minutes with him laying on the ground holding him in a bear hug, keeping him, i don't think he was in his right state of mind at that time, and i worry about him being a danger to society and also to himself. >> john: joe, we looked up the weapon in question online, called the my kitty plastic self-defense key chain weapon, black molded plastic, self-protection tool, delivers devastating strikes, ridged knuckles with pointed cat ears, stuff and strong. this is something you carry on the key chain in case someone tried to mug you, but in the

hands of a military veteran, and most military veterans i know are very stronged, aimed at somebody's neck. it could have had devastating consequences. >> absolutely. he was a large guy, moving at the speed this unravelled, could not really tell what it was. i did see it afterwards, i definitely agree that's what was used her and i think it would have been devastating had he made contact with the congressman. >> sandra: no way you walked away from that unscathed. do you have injuries? >> kept him on the ground until law enforcement came. >> john: fingers are pointed at some degree at governor kathy hochul, her folks posted his schedule online and encouraged her supporters to come out. do you think that might have

fueled what happened last night? >> i think it's irresponsible behavior by her campaign and her campaign is her. i don't know. i asked the attacker why he was doing what he was doing, and trying to calm him down, trying to, you know, in some way relate with him, so that he would stop being so combative. he didn't say anything. i don't know his motive. i believe personally as an advocate for veterans, i believe he was having a mental health crisis. as he was being handcuffed, i told him, he had done something very serious, he would have to deal with it, but there are services out there and i would help him connect with those services and told him to contact me as he works through the system. >> sandra: joe, thank you again nor joining us. appreciate it. >> john: thank you, joe. amvets working on behalf of veterans even in a situation like that. thanks, joe.

>> sandra: andy mccarthy joining me now, former u.s. assistant attorney and fox news contributor, and you said kathy hochul's campaign sent this out about his upcoming campaign events just before this happened, to john's point, whether or not it fueled this man to charge him on that stage, we don't know that. but prior to the event she sent out a media advisory. it was titled big lie, lee kicks off statewide maga republican bus tour to those on her subscriber list. >> you see, the thing, sandra, this is not a time of politics as usual. you know, i -- it would be nice if it were, right. but you know, what we are dealing with her is a situation or a time whether we have people, for example, protesting on the properties of supreme court justices at their residences and that was, it's not an idle bunch of reporting. we have one person charged with

an attempted murder of justice kavanaugh. and now we have an attempted murder and i mean, they called this an attempted assault, looked like a completed assault to me, if it was an attempt of something, it was an attempt to seriously injure or murder him, and i think politicians have to start taking that very seriously. >> sandra: what should the attacker's punishment be? >> i think mr. chennelly, he's a united states congressman, under federal law, he is an officer who is under the statute that deals with assaults on federal officers. that's a very serious offense in federal law when committed with a dangerous weapon as this was, and in federal law and in federal court you are looking at real bail, unlike new york, they can detain people as a danger to

the community, this guy looks like a classic danger -- how much more dangerous do you need to be than to do something in broad daylight in front of people like this. >> sandra: to that point, americans all over the country see this happening, they are experiencing crime spikes in their own communities but see it happening to a sitting u.s. congressman, gubernatorial candidate in new york, folks around him like joe to come to his defense and stop the guy, but people see the attacker let free hours following this attack and say what if this was me? >> yeah, and it's not like this has never happened before, right. i grew up in the bronx in the 1970s and 1960s, the bad old days, murders in the thousands every year. we drove crime down from the 1990s up until 2015, 2016, by enforcing the law and projecting the idea that laws were going to be enforced and people who broke them were going to be punished.

and if you -- if you send people out, if the bad guy is back on the street while the cop is still in his office filling out the paperwork, then you have chaos on the street which is what we have. >> sandra: hard to believe. real quickly, lee zeldin is going to join sean hannity, but just went on brian's radio show, slamming the cashless bail system. >> new york passed the bail law, time and again, attacker should not have been released instantly, and i could give multiple reasons for it. we have stories, by the way in new york, people get released on cashless bail and go out and commit murder. >> sandra: and he described the actual attack, about the man charging him with what he described as brass knuckles, two sharp pointy edges, saying you are done, and he lunged for my neck area, he said. i quickly grabbed his wrist, he

said, and held it tight. so he was the first one to defend for himself and then joe and others jumped in there. obviously this is an opportunity for him to slam the new york laws allowing a man like that loose on the streets. >> it's not an abstract proposition, he's a flesh and blood example of how dangerous this is. >> sandra: andy, great to have you here, twice in a day. lucky me. good to see you. >> great to see you. >> sandra: and john as i mentioned, hannity will have lee zeldin on with him tonight, and i'm sure he will describe everything that happened there, and it was obviously an intense moment that britain kilmeade was just told the exact story by the congressman. brian will join us next hour. >> john: yeah, you know, clearly you know, according to joe, the fellow seemed to be having some sort of personal crisis. but still, somebody got up on the stage with, it was a

self-defense weapon but could inflict a lot of damage and nearly stabbed a congressman, politics is taking a very dark turn in this country and something needs to be done to address that. >> sandra: very scary stuff. we will have, as we mentioned, more on that coming up. new concerns of overreach by president biden's justice department as critics are arguing the house january 6th select committee is being used to crush political dissent. the committee now says they will hold additional hearings this fall ahead of the midterm elections after previously claiming last night's hearing would be the last. all of this coming as the jury is now deliberating in the steve bannon trial after closing arguments wrapped this morning. bannon faces two counts of criminal contempt for defying a subpoena from the january 6th committee. david spunt is live at the justice department for us. hello, david. why was this such a quick trial. >> david: very quick trial, and jury selection was on monday, deliberations are actually

underway right now and it's for a few reasons. one reason is there's no disputing the fact steve bannon did not show up before the committee. why is up for debate here. bannon did not take the stand to testify, his attorneys put no witnesses on the stand, and the government only used one day to present its case. that's why it was so quick. deliberations come just hours after the january 6th committee held the hearing in primetime, millions tuned in. audio of steve bannon made it into the hearing last night, talking about donald trump declaring victory even if he didn't really win. listen here. >> what trump is going to do, declare victory, he's going to declare victory. that doesn't mean he's the winner, just going to say he's the winner. democrats, more of our people vote early that count. theirs vote in mail and so they are going to have a natural disadvantage and trump is going to take advantage of it, that's our strategy.

>> bannon's legal team said wait a minute, even though jurors are not supposed to watch news coverage it's possible they saw something there that may be prejudicial to our client. deliberations are going right now. bannon is arguing he did not cooperate with the committee because he didn't have to, citing executive privileges for the conversations with then president trump. given the fact bannon left the white house in 2017, executive privilege does not apply. with both sides at odds over the extent of executive privilege for former employees and former presidents, it could end up inside the supreme court. two charges here, criminal contempt of congress. each could put steve bannon behind bars between 30 days and a year in prison. we are on verdict watch officially as of right now. sandra. >> sandra: thank you, david. >> john: keep watching that one.

79 years old, president biden's health and stamina were under the microscope even before he contracted covid, and now as he isolates in the white house, more eyes than ever are seeing how he is handling. and former trump director of relations, and kevin. good to see you. the president appears to be doing well, but the diagnosis does again drive home the fact he is 79 years old. and he is in some ways according to his medical records in frail health, or declining health. in the eyes of many democrats beyond the age what he should run about. >> i'm hopeful the president's condition, he is improving, an spry79-year-old, he worked the rope line three hours in the

heat, and the middle east, he kept a tight schedule, the american people will be the judge in the next 800 days out from the 2024 election. >> what do you think? >> i supported the president in a primary, i'm a delaware guy, i would love to see him run for re-election. >> some people on the democratic side don't think he should run, one is robert rice, said as a 76-year-old, myself, let me say joe biden is too old to run again. i'm sure the president is experiencing some diminution in the memory department, i know i am. joe, please don't run. we are hearing more and more of this. >> democrats are starting to say the quiet part out loud, and you saw it during the campaign cycle and now more as president. undermines his effectiveness when people ask about his age, his stamina, or health. and gaffes, oh, he made a misstep or stuttering is now a

problem every time the president steps up. the white house team is always having to clean it up. on the democrat side, whether or not they want to put up somebody to run against a sitting president and take down an incumbent, that's up to them. on the republican side, we have plenty of people to run who can easily defeat biden, especially with his abysmal approval rating right now. >> john: critics and democrats who supported him in the 2020 election are now pointing to things that erin was alluding to, and happy birthday, by the way. >> thank so much, what a treat. >> john: the gaffes he makes in speeches as he appeared to in somerset, massachusetts when he talked about oil slicks and cancer. listen here. >> that's why i and so many damn other people i grew up with have cancer, and can't for the longest time, delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation. >> john: several nonmelanoma cancers removed from his skin by mohs surgery, and i've had a few

taken off as well, they are not a result of oil slicks, but being in the sun too long. some people said maybe it's covid brain fog or mental decline. >> again, the american people will be the judge of that. to erin's point, this president is known for many things and for gaffes, going back to when he was in the u.s. senate 40 years. you have to clean up things the president has said, that is a constant in the white house communication office. >> no, not me. >> you know, that -- the team has a big job in front of them obviously with this president and see what 2024 brings. >> john: a lot of names are being kicked around, should he decide not to run or the party convince him not to run, and all much younger than the president. kamala harris, 57 years old, amy klobuchar, 62.

pete buttigieg, jamie pritzker, 57, andy beshear, and alexandria ocasio-cortez, turn 35 in october, 2024, and could stand for election. could any of them beat the republican candidate? >> i don't see any stars in the line-up. >> we could have any republican but i don't see a star in that line-up. you have gavin newsom spending money on ads, in florida and texas trying to tell people to move to california from states where they have lower unemployment and people are happier generally in texas than they are in california. none of them overwhelm me, say it's a movement. what 2024 is going to be, is a change election, right. you are going to have to see somebody either biden step up and say i can change this economy and country on the right track or the republican saying i am the change. i don't think biden is the change candidate, whitmer,

buttigieg, none of them are stronger to beat the republicans who could possibly run. tim scott, mike pompeo, nikki haley. >> john: donald trump and desantis, the hill a new poll, trump leads biden and sanders in a hypothetical 2024 match-up. >> recent polling shows donald trump is still leading the field with desantis a close second, but he has over 50% of the vote and indications are that he wants to run and announce before the midterms which i say yes, please, announce donald trump that you are running for president again because i think that would be a blockbuster for democrats in the midterms. >> john: see what happens, he did not answer the question. good to see you. again happy birthday. >> sandra: i think as i'm looking ahead, this is a big day for 2024, former president trump

and mike pence, they are going to be holding, this is happening soon, duelling events for competing candidates in arizona. this is the first major battle between these two men as they position themselves, both of them, for a run in 2024. so, i hear the first event is happening at 4:00 eastern time in arizona. wouldn't that be like -- soon? >> john: 4:00 in arizona is 6:00 our time. >> sandra: watching for that. that's going to be a major, a major first moment perhaps battling in arizona. >> john: heat is on in arizona, not just the temperature. >> sandra: indeed. all right. we'll be watching for that. new economic numbers coming out next week that will signal whether the economy is leaning towards a recession as many fear. the white house is getting out ahead of the data by aiming to redefine what exactly a recession is?

art laffer and muhammad alerion, i'm looking for to this. they will weigh in next.

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>> john: what's in a name? that which we call a recession might not be one after all, according to the biden administration. just a moment, art laffer and muhammad sound off on the latest attempt to redefine recession ahead of new economic data next week. but first. a landmark deal reached between russia and ukraine, yes, a deal, set to end a standoff of grain exports brought on by vladimir putin's invasion of ukraine, to ease a food crisis as the war winds on. lucas tomlinson is live in kyiv with more. did the russians and ukrainians say anything to each other to get to this agreement, lucas? >> john, the ukrainians and

russians would not even talk to one another, would not look at one another, would not sign at the same table to sign the agreement in istanbul. brokered by the turks and the united nations. here is the u.n. secretary general. >> to stabilize global food pricis which are already at record levels even before the war, a nightmare for developing countries. >> representing the russian side, defense minister, it's notable putin sent the head of his military to sign the agreement, not his top, sergey lavrov. ukraine will be able to reopen black seaports, including the largest port in odesa to begin exporting some 22 million tons of grain to turkey, then off loaded and shipped to ports around the world. and russia gets to export grain and fertilizer. russia is aware of attempts by ukraine to use the deal to smuggle weapons into the

country, ukrainians are concerned about russian warships and submarines blockading ukraine and remain at sea, preventing any trade by ukraine in nearly five months of war. the black sea near odesa is also heavily mined by both sides. this agreement is now a ceasefire. in the east, russian artillery outnumbers ukraine 3-1, and russian forces are making incremental gains in the east. dozens of people, including children, have been killed in recent days. a high cost. 15,000 russian soldiers have been killed, 45,000 wounded since the invasion in february. head of mi6 says russia can't keep up this pace. >> they are about to run out of steam. i think our assessment is the russians will increasingly find it difficult to supply man power, material over the next few weeks. they will have to pause in some way and that will give the

ukrainians opportunities to strike back. >> u.s. officials have applauded this agreement and say the key will be the implication. ships will not be heading to sea for a number of weeks, john. >> john: at least they may at some point be heading to sea, a big relief for the countries that rely on ukraine for a source of grain. lucas, thank you. hard to believe that this deal got made in the middle of a hot war. >> and you just look at the risk of a global food crisis and pinched inventories of these grains happening all over the world. huge story that we'll be watching, john. >> we will. all right. >> it is very hard to conclude that we are in a recession when you look at the payroll and the job gains that we have seen. >> in the second quarter of this year, we had historic job growth. close to 400,000 jobs in a month, created in the economy. these are not the marks of an economy in recession. >> so, i don't think it's

preordained that we are going to have a deep recession in order for the fed to moderate prices. >> all right, well, those were some members of the president's team predicting that little growth in the second quarter ahead of the commerce department releasing estimates next week. every economic data point to determine whether or not the country is actually falling into a recession. now there is some spin from the white house on what exactly recession is. let's bring in our econ pabl, development chair under a president, and art, i'll start with you first because isn't the traditional definition of recession two quarterly drops, declines in g.d.p. is the white house trying to move away from that?

>> no, i think that is the traditional measure and two quarters of g.d.p. drop have probably already happened, sandra. so it's not are we going into a recession, have we already had a recession or not. and then what does the future look like, and now you get all of these economists bickering on technical details, does not make any difference. world is what the world is. >> sandra: economists bickering on details. >> and how boring can that be. at least you have muhammad and me, exciting, exhilarating people, and you look at the economists going ya, ya, ya, ya, and they will not make the final adjudication. so a year from now, we will know what we could have had. this is a ro ten economy, it has not been performing well, looks like the traditional definition of recession is made and only

now what's it like going forward. these guys have to try to judge how many angels can dance on the head of a needle, and that -- muhammad, you are the expert. >> sandra: go ahead. >> so, i hate to bicker with art, because i respect art enormously. i disagree and agree with him. disagree on traditional. technical definition is two quarters with negative g.d.p. growth. however, from the research is more holistic, calls for severity as well as coverage. so we may end up in a technical recession, but i doubt we are in an official recession. but going forward and that's what we care about, going forward, if you look at the data that has been released just this week it is flashing yellow in terms of heading into recession. we have had pretty awful p.m.i.

numbers, jobless claims are going up. >> sandra: you talk about the jobless claims going up. this white house seems to want to tell us this is a great environment when it comes to employment in this country, and that has been the case as they often say, if you want a job you can find 1, 11 million job openings out there. if you are in a job, a lot of the wages going up as well are not keeping up with the pace of inflation. as we are reporting today, art, at this moment, in this country's history, there are more americans today that are working two full-time jobs now to cover the skyrocketing cost of inflation. that is something. might not be one of those p.m.i. or very detailed economic figures or data points that you all watch, but people feel that. if they are having to work two jobs to pay for these policy

mistakes. >> yeah, real wages have not gone up in the last 5, 6, 7 months, probably longer. the point also is, sandra, that we have 525,000 less people employed today than we did in february of 19 -- of 2020. i mean, we had a drop and we haven't even caught up to what it was prerecession. now, looking at this as well, if you kept up on trend, we are 6.1 million jobs below the trend we had in february of 2020. so, all of these indicators tell me this is not a good economy, it's not good, and if we can get these economyist to do something, they won't do it for a year, sandra, we won't know whether we are right for a year. >> sandra: muhammad, i know you guys can get way deep into this, and really into the weeds and you can give us some really serious stuff that you are watching to indicate whether or

not we are in a recession or entering recession, how long we'll be in recession, how deep that recession will be. what does it mean to people at home? why is it important to even define it? >> i think it's important to define the context. so, you mentioned inflation, that is the key we have today. we have high inflation eating away at purchasing power and that's hitting the pot hot. we have a fed that is very late and i know art agrees with me on this, and that's going to be hiking aggressively interest rates into a slowing economy which makes it likely we will have a recession, which makes it likely people are not just going to worry about past inflation, but worry about the income security. so that's why it's important for the people watching today. >> sandra: that is really something. >> but not specifically the definition, muhammad. what you are saying, it's not specifically the definition recession, it's what really is happening in the economy that makes it so important. >> sandra: very true. great to have both of you.

i think you respectfully agreed and disagreed on many points. thank you very much, guys. >> thank you. >> sandra: see you again soon. john. >> john: a sheriff's deputy lucky to be alive, knocked unconscious in the line of duty. the growing fentanyl crisis that's poisoning america just ahead, and also this. >> [bleep], drop the gun. [bleep] [bleep]. >> sandra: police officers coming under fire and the person pulling the trigger only four years old. we will speak to the county sheriff who says this is the result of years of anti-police attitude in this country. that's ahead in the next hour of "america reports." veteran homeowners, this is the best time in history to turn your home equity into cash. because home values have climbed to all time highs. and so has your equity. turn it into cash now. the newday 100 va cash out loan lets you borrow

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lee zeldin. president biden saying i condemn the attack on congressman zeldin in the strongest terms. as i've said before, violence has no place in our society or politics. and grateful for those who immediately intervened and that he is unharmed and was able to continue his speech. and thank you the law enforcement officers who quickly took action and are investigating this attack that defies our fundamental democratic values. a little more on the attacker there, david jackobonus, 43 years old, lifetime resident of monroe county, new york. claims to be a military veteran, although that has not yet been verified. according to the sheriff's department, exhibited signs of intoxication and indicated he had been drinking, however that was not verified. he was not remanded to custody because the charge of which was

attempted assault, second degree felony does not qualify for bail under the bail reform legislation. the judge did order a stay away order of protection and removal of his firearms was ordered under the state's red flag law. the investigation is ongoing, we are told, additional criminal charges are possible. the sheriff's office is currently in contact with the fbi discussing possible federal charges because the attack was against a sitting congressman, which elevates the entire situation. and that is the latest on that. sandra. >> sandra: and brian kilmeade will join us, he just spoke with the congressman. meanwhile, a los angeles county sheriff's deputy rushed to the hospital unconscious, apparently poisoned by fentanyl during a traffic stop. the latest on this. christina, what is his condition and how is it going? >> we have new details here, we

have learned deputy was released from the hospital early this morning. he's now at home resting and recovering, this is great news considering the very traumatic experience he had last night. the sheriff's department says he was exposed to deadly fentanyl during a traffic stop near rosemeade 11 miles east of los angeles. several deputies witnessed him lose consciousness after he searched a backpack. his eyes rolled back, head slumped over and began to fall. fortunately several deputies were able to grab him before he hit the pavement and they were able to administer narcan. after four seconds he could speak again but eyes were shut and he was sweating profusely. other drugs were in the vehicle. four people were detained, including one who had appeared to have suffered an overdose. the deputy survived, but tragically so many others have not. according to the cdc data,

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>> john: a young adult has contracted polio, the first detected case in nearly a decade. officials will resume efforts to increase vaccination against the potentially deadly virus. dr. nicole saphier is a fox news medical contributor. we hear about this once every blue moon and a half. a single case in rockland county, what do we know about the case and how the person contracted polio. >> that's right, john. at least once in a decade. last time we had a new case of polio in the united states was about a decade ago, in 2013. and what happened in this particular case, this is rockland county, new york. remember, rockland, new york, made headlines right before covid when they had a big measles outbreak. largely due to the hasidic jewish population, very low

vaccination rates, i believe in 2019 about 8% vaccination rate among children. gentleman who tested positive for polio right now is also unvaccinated, but this is the important part here, john, that we have to pay attention to. he tested positive to something called type two vaccine derived polio virus. the virus came from someone who took the oral polio vaccine. oral polio vaccine is no longer used in the united states, since about the year 2,000. here we use a different one. it uses a live virus and sometimes, not often but very rarely it can be transmitted to someone else, that virus mutates and can actually infect people. now, the one that we use here in the united states uses a dead polio virus, so no risk of doing that. but the oral polio vaccine is much cheaper and used in large parts of the world, so likely this individual got it from someone either while he was travelling if there is a history

of travel or someone who recently traveled. >> john: so what are new york state officials doing in the wake of this? >> they have to do some serious contact tracing, i know everybody hates that word but it's important in this one. polio virus can be lethal. one in 200 people can get the paralysis and can lead to death and the paralysis is permanent. good news. for the large majority of americans who have been vaccinated against polio, this poses no risk to you. and unfortunately, what we did see with the covid pandemic, was that children were not getting their regular vaccines. i'm not talking covid vaccines, i'm talking measles, polio and others, so it is important to remind people and encourage them those routine pediatric vaccinations are essential to keeping your children safe because measles, polio, those can all be highly lethal to children. >> john: switch gears and joe biden and covid, expecting an update from the white house in a little more than an hour from now. your thoughts on where he is and how he seems to be doing and we

are hearing that he's responding pretty well to the paxlovid. >> well, that's right. we saw an update out of the white house about two hours ago, just saying that the president had a temperature of 99.4, which is not technically a fever, but he responded well to some tylenol, had one complete day of paxlovid, and his symptoms remain mild like a covid cold, i like to say. and that's all great news and the chance of the president having a severe outcome given the vaccinations, the double boosted, the fact he's getting treatment and that zone is a mild variant, it's a very low chance he's going to have a severe outcome, but a great team around him, keeping a close eye on him. >> john: my son comes to me and says my temperature is 99.1, and i say that's not a fever, call me when it's 102. >> that's a little high. >> john: nicole, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> sandra: new at 2:00,

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will invade neighboring taiwan, that comes as the nation's military branches are struggling to recruit and find people to fight. a big reason critics say, the biden administration is too focused on going woke. republicans putting the blame on the president for not being clear when it comes to china. >> joe biden can't even get america's policies straight. for decades, strategic ambiguity, won't say what we will do if china invades taiwan. we have the provocation of china without the deterrents of china. >> john: and chinese companies buy up american farmland near military bases and operations. >> sandra: that includes in north dakota, where senator kevin kramer says it's a matter of national security. he'll join us in a moment. >> john: and china's growing grasp, starting with mark

meredith. live at the white house. the president could cause a lot of confusion over his comments on speaker pelosi's planned trip to taiwan. >> he sure did, and the white house trying to clear up some of that confusion. good afternoon to you, just moments ago we learned that china sent a handwritten note to president biden wishing him well as he recovers from coronavirus. but i don't think that same sentiment of support and love will head over to nancy pelosi. china is furious over the speaker's potential plans to visit taiwan in a matter of weeks. speaker not confirming many details, but china is warning a visit to taiwan china claims as its own would create more tensions in the region. a spokesperson says it will have a severe negative impact on the political foundation of china-u.s. relations and send a gravely wrong signal to forces. speaker is not confirming she is going, just yesterday she told reporters a trip could be vital

to america's foreign policy. >> i think that it's important for us to show support for taiwan. i also think that we have none of us has ever looked for independence when it comes to taiwan, that's up to taiwan to decide. >> so where it also gets very interesting. on wednesday before testing positive for covid the president was asked about the same potential pelosi visit, not too thrilled with the idea. >> do you think it's a good idea for speaker pelosi to travel to taiwan this summer? >> well, i think that the military thinks it's not a good idea right now, but i don't know what the status of it is. >> so a pentagon spokesperson said they were not going to comment on this, as they do provide consultation to members of congress, delegations and such when they do go overseas and just heard from john kirby with the national security council at the white house and he says this is common practice

and they are offering support and advice but the speaker makes her own decisions about travel, but this trip even before it gets started, john, certainly creating a lot of controversy and confusion, and also getting china's attention. >> sandra: sandra here, we mentioned the c.i.a. chief warning. what exactly did he say? >> the director was out in colorado at a conference earlier in the week and he was talking about what china's thoughts are on taiwan, no secret they claim it as their own, but burns feels how things have changed when it comes to taiwan since russia invaded ukraine, his quote, if possible, may not have that on the screen, but making it clear it was going to be something he believes china is looking at closely ever since russia's invasion and something he believes they are making calculations on, they don't want to make same mistakes that russia did when it came to

invasion. >> john: thanks so much from the white house there. sandra. >> sandra: republicans sounding the alarm over a chinese company buying a massive farm in north dakota which happens to be near a u.s. air force base there. gillian turner has more on this for us. live in washington. so, what are republican senators asking the administration to do here? >> well, republican senators kramer and rubio and hoven are asking the biden administration to essentially reevaluate this deal, claiming the deal could pose a threat to u.s. national security because the company's chairman is a communist party card carrier. the commerce secretary is insisting they are on top of it. >> we have to be extremely aggressive about screening all chinese money that comes into the country, and not allow it. stop it. if we think it's going to hurt our national security. >> china analysts, though, are warning the threat of espionage here is obvious and very real.

>> the air force base there are numerous uplinks and downlinks and china, of course, would like to put a passive listening device there. >> a local farmer tells us the city of grand forks cut the deal on the sly and inappropriately withheld information about the foreign purchase until well after the ink was dry. take a listen. >> basically bending over backwards to give them everything and yet developers in our city have had to pay for their own way. >> u.s.d.a. statistics reveal to us the deal is not all that unusual. chinese company control nearly $2 billion worth of agricultural land here, 194,000 acres out of about 900 million total acres of american farmland. chinese government spokesperson is insisting "we oppose the malicious generalization of the concept of national security". the company's u.s. c.e.o. is insisting he is an american citizen. >> we are under u.s. laws, i'm an american citizen, grew up my

whole life here, and i'm not going to be doing any type of espionage activities. >> this deal is generating so much controversy that bill gates had to put out a statement of his own clarifying his investments in north dakota form land is not tied to this group. >> sandra: ok, gillian turner live in washington, thank you and nice to see you. >> john: sandra, kevin kramer of north dakota a member of the armed services committee. senator, to lay this out for folks at home, the chinese have bought 300 acres of farmland near grand forks, 12 miles from the grand forks air base. the land will be used to build a $700 million corn milling plant but the air base is the sen fer for intelligence, where they operate a lot of the global hot drones from. are you concerned here about either espionage or interference? >> i am, john. and thank you for doing a very

good job and thorough job of exchange the situation. i am worried about it because china has proven themselves to be both capable and more than willing to steal intellectual property, to intercept data, they are very good at it, and grand forks is not only an important i.s.r. base, it's a reconnaissance wing as you said flies drones a lot, we recently cut the ribbon on a new satellite ground station for low earth orbiting satellites that will soon be providing communications in the sky. and the future of the grand force air force base, it will be traded out for the next generation of i.s.r. flying vehicle, unmanned aerial systems. so it's a very important base. even in addition to that, on the farm side, we see china continuing to buy up more and more of the u.s. food supply chain. now, we grow a lot more food than we consume, we are happy to sell it to hungry people around the world, we good at that.

when the supply chain is more captive, not only to foreign ownership but adversaries who have demonstrated they are not to be trusted with supply chains, we just went through a pandemic that exposed a lot of that, just not very comfortable with the chinese communist party where so much, because food supply, energy supply, pharmaceutical supplies, all part of national security. >> sandra: you have to kind of sit back and go china is a major buyer of just about everything, right. i mean, you think about almost every commodity on the planet and china is a buyer and they buy a lot of the resources that we provide right here. farmland is interesting, obviously, because it would give them access to key spaces here in the united states. there is bipartisan concern about this, obviously, as you well know, senator mark warner, your democratic colleague is saying the senate intelligence committee has been loudly sounding the alarm about counter

intelligence threat posed by the c.r.c. we should be seriously concerned about chinese investment in locations close to sensitive sites, such as military bases and the united states. what are next steps, if you think it's such a concern, how do you stop it? >> well, there's a few ways, but you know, a lot of this came to light when senators rubio, hoven and i requested that the review, the committee on foreign investment in the united states, sent a letter to the chairman, janet yellen, the secretary of the treasury is the chair of the committee, made up of about 14 cabinet and white house officials and a lot of intelligence and law enforcement security agencies. they'll do a review. they'll identify major concerns, minor concerns, maybe there's no concern. my guess is there are lots of them. and that will help inform local developers and local officials

and if that shows enough concerns there might be more specific risks they can further review it, look for risk factors and then ultimately, if there are risks that aren't being mitigated or can't be mitigated and the president feels strongly enough, he can, through the same process, he can unwind the transaction. i don't believe that will be necessary. i'm fairly confident that there will be a lot of concerns raised by intelligence and the feds and security forces and those will be heard at the local level. one thing, this community of grand forks did a wonderful job of putting in guardrails and claw backs. you are a business reporter, you understand how, you know, communities protect themselves, so i'm confident it will turn out well and in the end, a unified community that supports the final decision. >> john: you and your republican colleagues in the senate have a lot of concerns about this, he

is as does senator warner, but the republican governor says what's the problem here, good for north dakota. he says with them in grand forks, it will be north dakota, not china, that reaps the benefits of the jobs and tax revenue associated with processing the corn. what do you say to him? >> if china does not benefit from the investment in north dakota, and in terms of economic dominance, upgrading their own military, they as you know are excellent at technology transfer, intellectual property, theft, and they have advanced their own hypersonic missile systems and other high-tech defenses. so, china benefits from it. no question, the governor is right about that, but the china of today has turned out to be a nefarious china. rather than inviting them to the

back yard, we should have a strategic decoupling, work closer with the allies western nations and other asian nations that share our values rather than having a partner so close to us we can't trust. >> sandra: senator, appreciate you joining us on that, it might not be on a lot of folks' radar but it is happening, and you are raising a red flag about it. thank you very much. john. >> john: strategic decoupling sounds like a gwyneth paltrow marriage. and some are saying the pentagon is too focused on going woke. >> begins in california. a little girl raised by two moms. although i had a fairly typical childhood, took ballet, played violin, i also marched for

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money of $35,000. but people are balking even at that. >> it's an incredible opportunity to serve your country and i hope this will be reversed. and look, there are still many, many young men and women signing up for the military, doing incredible work to keep us safe and secure. the concern is that with global threats increasing, this will add to a readiness problem and add to the problem of the existing soldiers serving longer tours and more tours than they should be serving. >> john: and what you see china doing, will it lead us at a strategic disadvantage? >> i don't think it looks like in the short-term, but china are building bases and the world, third aircraft carrier last month, increasingly threatening taiwan in the south china sea, not a good time to have problems in the recruiting military. >> john: fred, great to see you. thanks for dropping by. have a good weekend.

>> sandra: despite china's clear record of abusing human rights and the lack of freedom to its citizens, it's still business as usual between the communist country and some big name american organizations like the nba. the league has been criticized for ties to china a long time, about you bombshell audio recordings show how cozy nba officials really are with their counterparts in china. >> john: and candidate lee zeldin talking with brian kilmeade, and not only 24 hours after the suspect's arrest he's back on the streets walking free. brian next to talk about their conversations. stay with us. climbing forever. if you want to turn your increased home equity into cash, act now! newday's veterans are taking out up to $60,000 or more

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>> sandra: looking live in peoria, arizona at this hour, as we mentioned earlier, this is where former vice president mike pence, the arizona governor and other conservatives will be campaigning a short time from now. the significance of this moment is former vice president mike pence is on the ground there campaigning at the same time as former president donald trump. so this is the first of the duelling rallies, they are backing opposing candidates in that state for the upcoming republican primary race for governor there. so this is quite a moment, and perhaps, john, quite a preview of what 2024 could look like. so we are looking at live pictures there and the crowds are gathered outside. >> john: in some ways this could be a bit of a proxy battle because mike pence is backing karen robson, former president trump is backing cary lake and

barbs have been thrown back and for the, robson's campaign illuminated a post that lake put up, questioned whether president trump was actually her president or not. we have not heard anything about former president trump about that since, likely he has brushed it off, he had a lot of detractors in 2016, lindsey graham among them, and it will be interesting to see which candidate prevails. a sense while president trump remains extremely popular among many republicans, there are a lot of republicans ready to move on and back other candidates, whether those candidates be people like mike pence or ron desantis, or nikki haley, or tom cotton, many are waiting to

throw their hat in the ring after november 8th. >> sandra: and questions how big the field could be. mcconnell made a guess the oat day, it's going to be large. pence and ducey are campaigning with robson there. >> john: and point, governor doug ducey, not peter ducey. >> sandra: and spelled differently as right. a growing suburb of the phoenix area, they are going to then go to tucson for a rally with the national border patrol council. trump's evening rally is in prescott valley, one of the more conservative parts of that state. so, quite a moment that we are seeing here. that is the live look at the podium and we saw the crowds a bit earlier, and we hope to have pictures soon of the former president's event being held there at the same time. >> john: phil keating is on the ground, we will get to him in a little while. convicted murderer and gang member released after serving just a few years of his sentence is back behind bars.

that's in part because of los angeles district attorney george gascon's policies. jonathan hunt live in los angeles with the very latest. jonathan, explain what happened here. there are so many people in this nation that just do not understand it. >> convicted killer was arrested on the streets of l.a. this week after leading police on a car chase while illegally carrying a gun and drugs. he was freed despite the fact he was previously found guilty in the 2015 murder of a 41-year-old man whom he shot dead when mailer tried to stop him and others from stealing his bicycle outside a restaurant. catchew was sentenced to 50 to life in prison. but in 2016, california voters passed proposition 57, gave convicted felons like him, under 18 at the time of the murder, the chance to seek shorter sentences as juveniles. he asked for a new sentence last year, it could have been left to

a judge to decide by d.a. gascon used his legal power to transfer the case to juvenile court directly and as a result he was released as he reached the age of 25. gascon has long argued, those who commit crimes, even violent ones as juveniles, should not be tried as adults but given help to rehabilitate themselves. and he released statement saying we are disappoint he has not availed himself of the support he needs. grateful no physical harm came to anyone and are committed to holding him accountable as an adult in this case. about you gascon's critics, among them a deputy d.a. on the case, says the d.a. was wrong in how he handled this. >> i can pretty well tell you 100%, this transfer hearing would have been successful and andrew catchew would have been

sent back to adult court and served out his sentence. >> d.a. gascon is facing a recall effort with the l.a. county registrar, verifying campaign signatures to see if there are enough to get the recall vote on a ballot later this year. john. >> john: jonathan hunt in los angeles with the latest on that case that has a lot of people scratching their heads. thank you, jonathan. >> sandra: new york gubernatorial candidate lee zeldin back on the trail one day after this happened. >> only one option -- >> what is he doing? why does he want to get up there? >> sandra: if you can believe it, zeldin was standing on the stage speaking about bail reform when that happened. a man grabbing him and attempting to stab him. zeldin predicted his attacker would not be behind bars for

long, he was right, and he said it was important he take the stage again after the incident. >> i thought it was important to get on the stage last night, as soon as the sheriffs removed the attacker i finished the speech. i think it's important for us to always be standing up for what we believe in, not to be intimidated. in our great country -- >> brian kilmeade, he's going to be on hannity later tonight but just joined you on your radio program. >> he just called me on the way t another event, he has four events, he said a couple of things. number one, martial arts training, and he saw he was in the military, so he was kind of relaxed, addressing the amvets, so veterans of foreign wars. and with the friendly audience and he walked up and saw he was a veteran i wasn't thinking there was going to be a problem, but then when he says you're

done and saw what he had in his hand, he reached over and grabbed his hand, he's like a sparring champion, he was a world champion for a while, instinct, and i thought everyone would rush on top of him. the other thing he thinks is important, too, he was stunned that he's out already. this is an assault with a weapon, if you see it -- if you put that into somebody and pull down, you could cut them open. and this guy walked up there slowly, got up there. and you know, you have to go to small events, big events, upstate new york is like iowa, you know, you can't -- you don't have a lot of security there, so you trust the crowds, even if they are hostile, are not going to be violent. >> sandra: terrifying. he described the incident in his own words, lee zeldin talking to brian a short time ago. >> last night that was pretty nuts and as anyone out there, i

don't care whether you are right, center, left, whatever your party is, your ideology, it doesn't matter. in this country, we settle our scores at the ballot box, not through political violence, and it was a sad sight. >> sandra: thankfully joe, who joined us top of the last hour, he saw this happening, jumped up on the stage and lee zeldin said he restrained him to a certain extent but this other guy in the red shirt, he joined us, he bear hugged him and brought him to the ground until police could come. we asked him for his reaction to the fact the attacker is back on the streets and said this. >> i'm outraged by it. it's preposterous. i live in this community, obviously, and these failed bail reform laws are not making anyone safer. in fact, they are endangering

us, and the attacker here. i spent five minutes with him on the ground, holding him in a bear hug, i don't think he was in his right state of mind and worry about a danger to society and also himself. >> he was clearly outraged the attacker is walking free. >> and they are talking about bail reform at the same time. and number one, he's a vet, and obviously having problems. might have been drunk. he got up there, and saw this, the new york gop chair said that hochul is possibly responsible for this in his view, hochul gave out all the appeareds. >> sandra: we have a screen grab of the twitter feed go out to the campaign events. >> it doesn't say use violence but you tell people if you want to see me elected. >> referencing big lie lee kicks off his campaign event. >> that creates an environment of violence in his view.

and says why are you doing that? why are you posting the jobs? you really have to send hecklers out to harass your opponent? >> sandra: i have to talk to you about 2024, there are duelling campaign events with two interesting people. former vice president mike pence and former president trump are on the ground in arizona. what do you think it could be telling us about 2024? >> pence is in regardless. and january 6th hearings, we know what was happening without the hearings anyway. these two are never going to get together again, no doubt about it. and he was as loyal as can be over those four years, and they have, rubber hit the road after november's elections and they'll never get together again. they are going to run, i think there will be other candidates who will run regardless whether trump runs or not.

but mike pence is going for the same candidate as governor ducey, more traditional republican candidate, donald trump is going for somebody that is a little bit more, let's say, fringe, and he'll attract a bigger crowd. he's got more popularity, but it's another example. think about the vice presidents, gore does not really talk to clinton anymore, you know, the cheneys and bushes left on a bad note. now joe biden did not have much respect from barack obama, and mike pence, a fracture with the united states over extreme circumstances. >> sandra: huge crowd, don't you think, for the gop. >> if trump gets in, i think youngkin will get in, governor christie, and if donald trump is in, i think mike pence might go in regardless. but i don't see nome, or nikki haley, or even governor desantis. no one can say he did not become

governor without donald trump. >> sandra: got it. brian, thank you. lovely to see you. your show one nation this weekend, we'll be watching you. >> brian: appreciate it. i hope you enjoy your weekend, you work way too hard. >> sandra: coming from you, i don't know. >> brian: hope you are in the water somewhere. >> john: fox news alert, sandra, now just learned that in federal court the jury has returned a note to the judge to say that they have reached a verdict in the contempt of congress trial of former trump advisor steve bannon. we expect to hear in the next few minutes what the jury's verdict is, sentencing will, if he is found guilty, would occur after that, but equal chance he'll be found not guilty of contempt of congress. david spunt has the latest for us. >> david: glued to my phone to see what our colleague, jake gibson, in the courtroom or

watching proceedings in federal court is saying. a little unusual because we were told that there was a note that was being passed to the judge, not an actual verdict, and then we come and find out it was indeed an actual verdict and not a note, that's a little surprising. but this case from the beginning, i told you when i joined you the last hour, went by incredibly quick, this trial. and the reason for that is there was not much disputing the fact that steve bannon declined to cooperate with the 1-6 committee subpoena issued last year. his side never denied that. the why is different. his side said he was covered by executive privilege because of his conversations with then president trump. the department of justice, the government, federal prosecutors in this case, they say sorry, nice try. but steve bannon left the white house in 2017 so he is not covered by, or was not covered by executive privilege. another reason this trial went by so quickly is because the

government took just one day to put on a case in front of the jury and steve bannon's team called no witnesses. steve bannon himself did not take the stand despite some thoughts he may take the stand. he is charged with two counts of criminal contempt of congress, something that is rarely prosecuted, but steve bannon was prosecuted for this. we are waiting for a verdict right now. another person has also been charged with this, former trump advisor peter navarro, his case making its way through the system as well, but steve bannon's attorneys were not happy this morning, john and sandra, when they came into court. in fact, issuing, i should say filing a motion because steve bannon's audio was played from october 31, 2020, where he talked about, let me read the statement here, we played the audio last hour. he said what's trump gonna do, declare victory, right, he's going to declare victory. that doesn't mean he's the winner, he's just going to say he's the winner.

that's from steve bannon, october 31, 2020. and bannon's team says listen, by playing that during the january 6th committee hearing where millions are watching in primetime, that does not give him a fair shot in the courtroom. you may wonder how so, because jurors are not supposed to watch any of the january 6th hearings or anything related to bannon, sometimes it happens even though it's a rule. >> sandra: the verdict is in, that is the news on the contempt trial, awaiting a full update here. three hours after leaving the courtroom to begin deliberations, david. >> david: about three hours, almost to the minute, as a matter of fact. deliberations began a little after 11:30, officially figure they may have taken lunch, not sure if they sat down and ate lunch or worked through lunch to come to this verdict, incredibly short verdict, and listen, steve bannon's legal team, david chon, former president trump's

attorney during the second impeachment, he's also bannon's attorney, he said they are already preparing for appeal, he said that a week ago. >> sandra: david, keep us posted on that. >> john: if he was found guilty of contempt of congress it would be a milestone. the last person to be found guilty of contempt of congress and in prison for it was william p. mckraken in 1934. so, other people have been up on the same charge, but throw the book at bannon and in jail for a short period of time, modern day historical precedent. >> sandra: indeed. we await that verdict and when we get it we will go back to david spunt. >> john: stay with us. more on the potentially pivotal match-up for the republican party playing out in arizona. >> sandra: phil keating is live in tampa where the former president will make his way over the weekend, but phil, this is quite a moment there that we are

watching play out in arizona. >> absolutely. arizona, this night and afternoon is definitely former vice president mike pence showing he is his own man now and not 100% necessarily loyal to his former boss, former president donald trump. we are here in tampa where turning point u.s.a. is having the big student action summit. this is a grassroots organization that focuses on conservative values and they engrain that with the high school students and the college age crowd and they are trying to hope to mold the future republican leaders of the party. but this weekend, also a who's who of conservative republican all stars, potential 2024 presidential candidates. fox nation streaming the whole event live, starts later this afternoon, and will run all three days here in the tampa convention center.

>> we say at turning point u.s.a. lives will be changed here, we know that to be true. what's amazing, how many governors and congress people will be walking through the doors right here. >> tonight's headline speaker is florida republican governor desantis, a possible presidential candidate, widely speculated in the sunshine state that he is definitely going to run. he has not said so. the man who is widely credited with getting him elected in the first place, former president donald trump is the headliner tomorrow night. he has not said whether he will run for re-election. tonight he's in arizona campaigning for gubernatorial candidate cary lake, a former newscaster who has embraced trump's election lies, and a brazen split from the man he was loyal as vice president, mike pence also a possible 2024 candidate is campaigning all day

in phoenix and southern arizona, tucson, for karrin taylor robson, lake's opponent in the gubernatorial primary which is august 2nd. the leading politicians and influencers, ted cruz, rick scott, josh hawley, mike lee, first time he has made it to central florida since becoming president. however, as you may have heard, he has covid, quarantining in the white house. those events are canceled. >> sandra: john, thank you for the update. >> john: we wish him a speedy recovery. utah police, chilling video of police officers coming under fire. even more disturbing, it was a 4-year-old who was pulling the

trigger. incident began with police being called to a mcdonald's drive through due to a man waving a gun at workers there. as police handcuffed the father, shots rang out from the back seat. listen to this. >> put your arm out now. [bleep] drop the gun. [bleep] [bleep]. [bleep] [bleep]. >> kid, kid. >> you all right, kid? it's all right, come on, it's ok. it's ok. >> john: rosy rivera, salt lake county sheriff, she says this is what happens after two years of anti-police rhetoric spreading nationwide. chief, good to be with you and thanks for joining us this afternoon. we here at fox have been focused on the rise in violent crime across the country. this idea of a 4-year-old in the back seat of a car as his father is being handcuffed taking shots at police officers raises it to a whole new level that we have

not seen before. >> yeah, it really does. you know, it shocked us as well, and then after talking with the child he said he just wanted to get his daddy back. but someone taught him how to use that firearm and you know, to shoot at police. >> there was some talk that his father may have encouraged him to shoot, do we know if that is true or not? >> well, the father denies that, he did deny that in court. he did say his son had been familiar with the firearm before. >> john: right. i can't imagine a 4-year-old being knowledgeable enough to be able to grab a firearm and then pull the trigger, shoot, and with callous disregard for life, shooting at the officers. but you know, it's not just utah we have seen something of this nature. this did not involve a gun. but let me roll this video from

minneapolis from the other day of a toddler slapping at and cursing out police officers on the street. here he is, dressed in his underwear, taking them on, listen here. >> officer [bleep] [bleep]. >> john: he's slapping at them, he's cursing them out, this went on for a number of minutes. and wondering, like handling a firearm, where does a 3 or 4-year-old learn to do this? >> well, first comes from the parents, you know, who's ever is raising that child is teaching them how to be disrespectful to law enforcement and it really needs to be reversed. we need parents out there to let the child know that law enforcement is there for public safety and not disrespent. because when they become adults and they start doing that, it can become dangerous. >> john: you can imagine if you are doing that when you are 3 or

4 years old, walking and in your underwear in the streets, what are you going to do when you are 20 or 25. >> rewind the clock back to 2020 to minneapolis. what a lot of democrats were saying about the police force. >> minneapolis, we are here because now is the time to dismantle mpd. our commitment is to end our city's toxic relationship with the minneapolis police department. we should and can abolish our current minneapolis police system. >> this council will dismantle this police department. we are here today to begin the process of ending the minneapolis police department. >> not only do we need to invest for police, but we need to completely dismantle the minneapolis police department. >> john: and chief, that was rhetoric repeated in cities across this land. is it any surprise to you that things have gone so far off the rails?

>> well, it was a surprise because law enforcement had a lot of support at the time and then 2020 hit. but we are seeing that come back. i can comment for the state of utah, our communities are coming back, they feel like they can trust law enforcement, and they have been very supportive in the last couple of years, even increasing our funding and that was the issue in 2020, if you take our funding away, you take our training away, and our ability to serve. >> john: i'll tell you, that episode of that young child with the gun in the back of the car is just terrifying. you can imagine that would go wrong in a heartbeat. rosy rivera, salt lake county sheriff, thanks for being with us. appreciate it. >> thank for having me. >> sandra: developing story we are watching out of north carolina, the entire police department in one town, kenly, resigning citing a toxic work

environment. it's not clear what exactly it is that they are referring to. now the town is set to hold an emergency meeting in just a few hours. let's bring in brock wiley, the owner of davis drug company in kenly. brock, thanks for joining us. trying to track down what is happening in your town. it's not every day we see an entire police force of an american town just walk out the door. what is happening there? >> yeah, i mean, i was completely surprised just like everybody else in the town. at first i thought the worst, that maybe there was some sort of scandal going on or something, but what it turns out, we found out that new town manager has come in and has kind of nitpicked apart the entire town, we are very small knit community police force of only five full-time people, so when you start getting in the way of them doing their job then environment and unable to do

their job. >> these are guys on the job for a year or two -- in the case of the police chief himself, josh gibson, he along with four other officers submitted a two-week resignation, happened last wednesday. he's been with the police department 21 years and served the majority of those years as chief. and the other officers that resigned handed their letters directly to the police chief, the police chief himself handed his to, directly to the new town leader that you are describing. >> uh-huh. the police chief is well regarded in the town, a couple footsteps down whenever anything is coming up, we have his cell phone and he's there, you know, whether it's any time of day or night. so to see that happen and see someone who has been here that long call it quits based on the town manager, it's quite shocking. >> john: puzzling, too, they cite the hostile work

environment but don't go into any detail as to what the hostile work environment is. >> sandra: one other question, we have some breaking news. if you call 911 right now, nobody answers. is that the case? >> well, 911 would go directly to the county, but the county response is anywhere from 30 to 60 minutes at some points. so, having a police force, especially owning a pharmacy, not having police presence for 30 to 40 minutes is quite shocking, alarming. >> john: yeah, keep watching see how it goes. brock wiley, thanks for being with us. we have to jump, breaking news. steve bannon has been found guilty on both counts of contempt of congress. this is a very big decision because this is something that happens very rarely in this country, david spunt has been following the trial and the latest on the verdict.

david. >> david: two misdemeanor counts, judge karl nichols took in the verdict, willful failure to appear for testimony, this was before the january 6th committee last year, steve bannon found guilty. count 2, willful failure to provide records to said panel, steve bannon found guilty. a remarkably quick turn around. jury deliberations began about three hours and ten minutes ago. typically when a verdict comes back this quickly it's usually not favorable to the defendant. that clearly is what happened here in this case. this trial began on monday and we are already at a verdict on friday. steve bannon's team never disputed the fact he did not show up in front of the committee, but the reason they say was he was covered by executive privilege, something that people that have conversations with the president of the united states, usually a government employee, enjoy. it shields them from providing

records, conversations, whatnot, to any type of investigative body. the government, meaning the attorney general and everybody, the u.s. attorney's office and federal prosecutors, they say that's not the case. steve bannon left the white house in 2017, so at the end of 2020 around the election time and especially around january 6th, steve bannon was not an employee of the government, therefore not shielded by executive privilege. again, these are two misdemeanor counts, both criminal contempt of congress. they carry each between 30 days and a year in prison. we are still waiting to find out when bannon would be sentenced. he is not going t find out what the punishment would be today, but john, sandra, interesting to note about a week and a half ago, maybe two weeks ago during a few pretrial hearings, steve bannon's attorney came out and he said that that's what the appeal process is for.

so he was already preparing for an appeal and the fact that steve bannon did not take the stand and his team did not put on any type of case before the jury is something that is notable right there. so, this is something that is a -- is a rare case as you mentioned. it's not done often in the department of justice, for the department of justice to bring these charges. there is another person facing the same charges, peter navarro, another former trump advisor who also told the january 6th committee essentially to go pound sand. he is making his way through the legal process right now. he was just indicted just a few short weeks ago. so at this point out of all of the depositions, all of the testimony, all of the fighting back and forth between the january 6th committee and some of these characters, steve bannon and peter navarro are the only two to be charged in a court of law.

john, sandra. >> john: and the rarity of this, the first time according to chad pergram, liddy was convicted in 1974, and the last time somebody went to jail was 88 years ago, that would indeed be rare. david spunt following this, thank you. >> sandra: jonathan turley, george washington law professor, and fox news contributor. and telling the audience, steve bannon has been found guilty on both counts. the jury just reaching this verdict a short time ago. count 1, willful failure to appear for testimony, guilty. count 2, willful failure to provide records, guilty. your reaction. >> one of the most predictable convictions i've seen in my career as a legal analyst. i mean, the reason you could predict this outcome is very

simple, that he didn't put on a defense. he didn't show up to congress. he didn't present any witnesses, and now he's going to go on appeal presumably he'll have more to say there. but he did not have a viable defense. he was not a government official to even make a substantial claim of privilege. but also at the time many of us said you are making a huge mistake. you should show up in congress. you can always take your 5th amendment protection, the privilege against self-incrimination, plenty of witnesses do that, but you should show up. he decided basically that he would thumb his nose at congress and go his own way. well, you can't. this is a very rare prosecution. the last prosecution i think was in 1983, the last conviction as you noted was long before then. it is unlikely that he's going to receive much, if any, jail

time. minimum is 30 days. the judge has some, obviously discretion, particularly allowing these to run concurrently, which is what i would expect. you know, send someone consecutively, so they finish one sentence before they start the next sentence. this is something normally done concurrently, so any sentence runs at the same time. >> john: jonathan, just looking back at g. gordon liddy, according to chad pergram, the last person along with a former attorney general to be convicted of this. he received a six-month sentence but it was suspended and one year probation, and prior to that, william p. mckraken was the last person to be in con attempt of congress convicted, in 1934. how would you game out the chances here when sentencing happens october 21st at

3:00 p.m. bannon does jail time? >> i think it's unlikely that he does anything but relatively short time in jail, at most. part of the problem here is the shortness of this period. he was saying he wanted to go to court to challenge this, and they moved very quickly towards this charge. >> sandra: ok. so we are getting some word here, sentencing schedule some time late october time frame, we are told right now. october 21st at 3:00 p.m. sentencing, memorandum, october 14th, bannon is to report to the probation office before leaving, ok, that's just some of the details, readout we are getting right now. also, by the way, just alert here, that we are getting word that the pool has been called at the white house and that the president is expected to make digital remarks on the economy in the south core auditorium. just getting word that the pool was called. so that's news, interesting,

that we would hear from the president as he is currently in isolation, but working after his positive covid announcement. back to our other top stories, rising threat from china, we have talked about the military and the buying up of american land, but there's also the influence over american business. lydia hu has more on that for us. >> yeah, we are taking a look at leaked audio shared with the tucker carlson show, tucker carlson tonight. captures comments from a number of high ranking executives from the nba, one recording revealed the milwaukee bucks owner explaining how china will not do business with the league if athletes criticize their government, saying at one point it's business. watch. >> very aggressive stance, which is hey, you want to [bleep] us, you are out. which is -- i get it, nothing -- it's business. >> now, kanter freedom reacted,

and evidence of how 100% american made company is run by the chinese dictatorship, and the nba responded saying commissioner adam silver made it clear they support their players and their freedoms to express themselves. he says now he's being forced into early retirement. >> sandra: interesting stuff. we will follow all of it. a jam packed couple of hours. john, great to be with you all week. hope you have a great weekend. >> john: jam packed week. see you on monday. >> martha: thanks, john and sandra. good afternoon. i'm martha maccallum. we expect we're about to hear from steve bannon when he walks out of this d.c. courtroom after being found guilty on two counts, two misdemeanor counts of contempt. the jury convicted the former trump strategist on both counts for refusing to appear before the house committee investigating the