know, when your name is on the bill, you are the one in charge. making sure you have the team in place to execute your vision, and she should have given every person steak. >> i like it. i don't know how it fits in, but i'm hungry. thanks for watching, congrats to john's big number one on itunes, "america reports" now. >> john: residents of a small north carolina town trying to figure out the next steps after the entire police force suddenly resigned. >> sandra: officers blaming the new town manager, justine jones, for a hostile work environment. and what legal options the residents of the town in kenly, north carolina have. >> john: but first to the white house, president biden recovers from covid as the country braces for major economic news. a report could tell us if the

nation is officially in a recession. something many experts have predicted was coming. john roberts in washington. happy monday to you. >> sandra: i heard booming thunder here in new york city as a storm rolls in. welcome, everyone. i'm sandra smith in new york, this is "america reports." it has now been four days since the president's positive covid test. his doctors say he's doing well and symptoms are almost completely gone. all of this as the white house and president biden's team prepares for another fight. an efforts to redefine what actually constitutes a recession. >> john: treasury secretary janet yellen says a second quarter of negative growth in the g.d.p. will not indicate recession but does admit the economy is "slowing." josh is here on this, and more noise about biden's 2024 candidacy, that's coming up in moments. >> sandra: peter doocy at the

white house, what do officials expect from this week? are we in a recession or not? >> peter: sounds like, sandra, they are expecting very bad numbers. economic officials here at the white house are already telling people not to pay attention to these g.d.p. figures. >> let's step back and look what happened. those numbers will reflect the period from april to june, so backward looking, those numbers are inherently backward looking and capture different elements of economic activity, including very volatile things like inventory. >> john: officials are now saying even though the dictionary definition of the recession is two quarters of falling g.d.p. in a row, if this shows, two quarters of falling g.d.p. in a row, it's actually not a recession. >> this is not in an economy that's in recession but we are in a period of transition in which growth is slowing and

that's necessary and appropriate. >> peter: president biden is working from home today as he recovers from covid. we are hearing his symptoms have almost completely resolved. a letter from the president's personal physician, who is based a few blocks away at george washington university hospital includes the line when questioned at this point, he, the president, only notes some residual nasal congestion and minimal hoarseness. pulse, and lungs are clear. the president is taking steps to protect, to keep safe from covid. secret service agents and residence staff that have to come in contact with him, but that's in conflict with their claim that he is also adhering strictly to cdc guidelines for people with covid.

nothing in the guidelines that say staff of any kind should be going into the residence of somebody that is a covid positive patient to set up a livestream like he needed to do his remarks, to take pictures or video of him maskless, so we will see how they try to square that at a briefing in about two hours. >> sandra: when you look down at your phone, update from the white house, they tweeted out a photo of the president outside maskless with his dog. take a look at that. that is just happening, it's a new tweet from the official presidential twitter account. so we'll have that for you shortly. one real quick thing. janet yellen saying it's necessary and appropriate, these steps that we are taking, to obviously tame inflation, rising interest rates, obviously to put a kabosh on the overheated economy. necessary and appropriate to correct the policy mistakes on the part of this white house. she admittingly got this

inflation picture wrong and so you can make the case that the american people, the hard working middle class are paying for those mistakes, peter. a whole lot more coming u a couple guests on that. >> peter: and she says people have a different idea what a recession is than we do. the same thing we heard last monday when gene sperling came into the briefing room and said it was going to be transitory inflation, but people didn't know what it was. >> sandra: they don't want to say we are going into recession to pay for their policy mistakes. update on the president's picture in a moment as well. >> john: he's out there on the truman balcony with major making some phone calls. that is part of the white house. the white house says biden will run in 2024, but more democrats are skeptical. his popularity is continuing to

fall and new op-ed in the "washington post," recritical of the president lately is pleading to joe biden to bow out now. headline reads "quit joe quit." save the midterms with a one-term pledge. josh, this idea, quit now joe while you are ahead, behind, whatever the calculation, what does that to to the presidency? >> one of the political appeals when he ran, bridge to the future, a contract that he was not going to necessarily be a two-term president, i think it may help the democratic party figure things out but also is a concession that this presidency has not gone the way he had hoped with the economy. >> john: and a lame duck immediately. >> he would. >> john: and nothing would get done. and the semantic game over recession, hides the fact economy is in rough shape,

closer and closer to the presidential campaign. look, democrats don't want a civil war, a battle between progressives and moderates. >> john: you can fool me, look like they are going at it. >> biden will be in his 80s and presiding over a very rough economy in 2024. >> john: a couple of the youngins out there, relatively speaking, newsom is doing radio ads against desantis in florida, and kamala harris apparently has been in touch with, not sure what that is -- why that's there, kamala harris has been in touch apparently with some big money wall street donors. so, i don't want to say that the sharks are circling, but certainly does seem to be a little blood in the water here. >> gavin newsom at the white house, i don't know if it's not a smoke signal, i don't know what is. interesting if biden does not

choose to one. his administration is dealing with strong political head winds, the question, do you want anyone in his administration to be the successor or would they have the same baggage, maybe even more so, like vice president harris, lowered job approve rating than the president himself, pete buttigieg tied to the administration, you see the governors outside of washington put their foot in the political waters. at the very least, out from washington, could not necessarily blame them from some of the challenges the administration has faced. >> john: people who would vote in the democratic primary in 2024 in a "new york times" poll, literally every major voting block said no, joe, don't want you for a second term. young people, 94% against, white people, 70% against, 47% against in the black community and the quinnipiac poll similar question, biden run again in

2024, 40% said yes, 54% said no. the writing, josh, is really on the wall here. >> these are remarkably high numbers from voters in the president's own party saying step aside in 2024. i think a lot of this is about age, too. the it's the elephant in the room for the white house, and they have not been able to fully overcome that. he's going to be closer to 90 if he won another term, he would be closer to 90 than 80. >> john: and age, call for number three on the screen, relative ages of the people who are maybe throwing their hat in the ring compared to president biden, you know, kamala harris, 57 years old, amy klobuchar, describe the idea of an age gap here. >> genx is trying to have its moment, passed over in elections. ideology is the big challenge for the democratic party, it's a party that is split between the joe manchin, sinema and left,

like klobuchar and alexandria ocasio-cortez was on the list. >> sandra: she'll be 35 in time of the election. >> eligible to run for president and following with the younger, progressive elements of the party. >> 95% of which don't want joe biden to run again. >> sandra: good to have him here, and we'll be joined coming up to look into the white house trying to redefine a recession. historically it has been two straight quarters of negative g.d.p. growth, so, or contraction i should say in the g.d.p., why they are trying to redefine that, possibly it's going to look bad if they have to say it was necessary to drive this country into recession to correct the policy mistakes of this administration. so many admittedly getting it wrong, inflation, right, john, calling it transitory and not doing what it would take to tame that inflation. and our kids are paying for

today. >> john: hearing people earlier on fox say maybe janet yellen should be fired, of that a pretty big miss and they continue to try to sugar coat what's going on there, but anybody who is dealing with the prices, whether it be gasoline prices or putting food on the table, there's nothing to sugar coat. no money for sugar. >> sandra: jay powell has admitted he got it wrong and now he's the guy in charge to get it so right to stop a deep recession. and graphic video, a manhunt is on for several suspects after a man was hit by a car and robbed as he lay on the ground struggling to survive. alexis mcadams is on this for us. how was he doing? >> he was hit hard by the car and critically injured in the incident in new york city, laying on the ground motionless after he was struck by the car and listen to this, the driver stops, but instead, the group gets out him and robs him not once, but twice. you can see the 39-year-old man

crossing the street in the bronx, hit by a car, trying to get out of the way and pause it just before the car smashed into him. the impact of the crash on saturday morning sent the guy flying right up into the air. so when the car stops, you see at least one man run up to him and they rob him, then moments later go back again and they reach into his pockets, steal whatever valuables they could find. a closer look at who police are looking for. three men there, and then there was the vehicle. a black car involved in the crash. major crime in new york city is up more than 37 p% over last year, that's according to the nypd. robbery is up nearly 40% compared to last year. checked how the big spike in crime is impact the big apple. >> late july now, i think probably the peak, if you look at annual cycles, yes, we are in the midst of summer, it's a hot summer, going to be a hot summer and i would expect these numbers to be bad for a while.

>> data suggesting overall shootings are down but in just the past two weekends, there were 48 victims of gun violence across new york city and not just in one neighborhood, it's impacting all five boroughs. >> no such thing as an island of safety. unless you want to move to arizona and live in a gated community and pay people security to keep out, everyone else. >> as of now, no arrests have been made. we reached out to the nypd to see if any of these men are linked to other hit and rob incidents, they are going to keep their eye on it. hit to the ground and then they rob him, no one tried to help him or anything. >> absolutely terrifying. alexis, thank you very much on that story for us, john. >> john: this is a fox news alert, police in dallas investigating reports of shots being fired at dallas love field airport. this is not the main dallas fort worth airport, another commercial airport northwest of the city.

a large police presence on the scene. there are reports that the person who was doing the shooting is down and at least one person has been transported to the hospital. the shooting caused the airport to go into a ground stop, apparently there is still a traffic management program in effect and we are expecting a news conference at any moment now about what went on here at the airport. again, it's the metroplex second smaller commercial airport, not the big d.f.w. everybody is so familiar with. and see it on occasion, very rare occurrence, always a huge police presence at these airports, and it would appear at least from the early information that there was a quick response on the part of law enforcement that neutralized whatever threat there was there. >> the dallas police chief stepping up to the microphone. >> number one, we'll tell you the fact as we know it to this

point. not only might they change, they probably will as we look into this investigation even further. but i'm going to tell you what i know at the current time. second part about it is at this time we will not be taking any questions until we get all the facts of the case. but today, this morning, about 10:59 a 37-year-old woman gets dropped off, goes inside near the ticket counters in front of southwest, goes at one point into a restroom, exits the restroom, now she's either put some sort of hoodie on or other clothing, she walked in. at some point, simultaneously one of our officers is in the area. she produces a handgun and begins firing. at this point we don't know where exactly the individual was aiming or the most we are seeing, aiming at the ceiling but there was several rounds that are found simultaneously as she's doing that our officer

engages the suspect, strikes her in the lower extremities, taken to custody and at the hospital. no other individuals were injured in this event other than the suspect that's at parkman. that's all we have right now, but wanted to make sure the community know it's not an active situation, there are no other passengers, family members or people in the airport that have been -- that are victims, and that's what we have at this time. thank you very much. [speaking in spanish] >> john: there is the update from the dallas police and you can hear what happened, a woman, 37 years old, about 11:00 central time, got dropped off at the airport, went to the southwest counter area. then went to the restroom where she came back dressed in a

hoodie and an officer saw her, i guess was suspicious of her and that's, sandra, she pulled a gun. >> sandra: a question at the end but indicated he was not going to answer any questions at that moment. he said a lot of the facts in the story may change, but questions about whether or not the airport is still on lockdown, he did not answer that one, so we'll try to continue to monitor the situation. he's calling it an active situation, although putting out there so anybody tuning in that knows a family member or friend is travelling through that airport that there are no other victims, and no other injuries other than the suspect involved. so, still an active situation as you heard from the police chief there. we'll see if they offer any more facts on the situation as the afternoon progresses. >> john: in terms of the shooting itself and the chief there said things can change moment by moment if they get more information. but appears as though she was firing toward the ceiling and not toward people. she was engaged by the officer who spotted her, who hit her in the leg. did not shoot for the main

center of body mass, interesting, shot her in the leg, took her down and she is now at the hospital. parkland hospital just northwest of dallas. i mean, obviously some terrifying moments as we have been seeing with videos on twitter for people inside. does not look like she attempted to get through security. this appears to have taken place out in the ticket counter area. >> sandra: we'll see what more information we get there as the afternoon progresses. perhaps there will be some question taking a bit later on as they learn more, john. >> john: i think we have charles watson up from the southeast bureau -- never mind. residents of a small north carolina town waiting to find out the fate of a police force after officers resigned last week. they said they could not carry out the job due to a hostile work environment created by the new town manager. leo terrell is standing by with reaction but begin with charles watson in the atlanta bureau on this.

sorry, charles, i thought you were going to give update on dallas. what came out of that emergency council meeting on friday? >> good afternoon, john. that's a good question, if there was anything of interest that came out of that meeting on friday, it's unknown to us because the kenly town council is not saying much of anything at all. it held the emergency closed session on friday as dozens of residents there waited to hear the fate of their police department. instead, they learned that answer would have to wait until another day because council members and the town manager, justine jones, refused to comment on the resignations. meantime questions continue to pile up about the specifics around why the entire police force and two town employees suddenly quit last week. kenly police chief josh gibson, resigned along with four officers points to jones as the problem saying the newly hired town manager has created a "hostile work environment," claims to have a lot of people

talking. >> sort of dismayed because this is a shock. >> sounds to me like she's trouble and she needs to go. >> the town manager knows that we support her, she's only been here a couple of months. >> the town manager jones who was hired following a national search and has a history in public service has been on the job for less than two months. while she is not speaking, the mayor of kenly is, assuring residents their calls for law enforcement will be answered by the county. we heard from one business owner who says that's disturbing. >> the county response is anywhere from 30 to 60 minutes at some points, so having a police force, especially owning a pharmacy, not having police presence for 30 to 40 minutes is quite shocking. >> john, i want to emphasize we don't know of any specific incidents or reasons that led these officers and town

employees to just suddenly resign. we reached out to the town of kenly to get more specifics on this issue. we have not heard back yet, but the town council is expected to meet soon to come up with a resolution. >> john: all kinds of resignation letters, untenable situations, but nobody has given us the full details why it's all taking place. maybe we will learn soon. >> john: charles, thank you. >> sandra: leo terrell is joining us, this has been an interesting story to track down. we were tipped off early friday morning leo and tried to chase it down, there were only local news reports on it. and then obviously of national attention considering what is happening with police departments across the country. any sort of formal response from the town on this, but you've got a police chief in that town, kenly, north carolina, that has been there for 21 years, most of

which he has served as chief. he received resignation letters from his officers but he turned his directly, we are told, into that new town leader. what are we supposed to make of the situation where there's a town in america where if you call 911 right now, there is nobody coming to help you. >> yeah, that's a major problem. i'll tell you right now, sandra, when the chief turned his letter into the manager and say hey, there is a hostile working conditions, that's a legal term. translate that. he's unable to do his job. he cannot perform. and then you have five of his officers saying the same thing and two city officials. that tells me that something is wrong between the police department and this new manager and basically what he's saying is he's handcuffed, he cannot do his job. sandra, a vote of no confidence with this city manager. what specifically, we don't

know. but it tells you vote of no confidence. >> sandra: and if you thought there was a defensible situation, perhaps it's best if she keeps quiet if there is another reason behind their departure, some personal reason, we don't know a lot right now, but again, it is crazy to think there's a town in north carolina right now without a police force. we called up a lot of businesses, tried to get some residents to come on the record and speak to us. some took our phone calls, gave us anecdotal stories. one joined us on friday. brock wiley, a small business owner in that town and said this about what they are hearing. >> new town manager has come in and has kind of nitpicked apart the entire town. we are a very small knit community, police force of only five full-time people. to see that happen and someone

here that long is shocking. >> i'm sure the residents want to know more and the meantime can they take any sort of legal action against the municipality, the small businesses or the residents for this happening, leo? >> sandra, public safety is number one obligation of every government, city, county, state, nation. and here is the problem. they have a duty to protect and serve. this city management, or this city council has to immediately contract with the county services, the county sheriff's department, and have a contract where they provide services. the down fall, sandra, is quite simple. a slower response time. so you don't have immediate police response and i think the city has an obligation to protect. the citizens have to take some type of action to demand immediate police response. i want to quell one other point. if this city manager is taking action to nitpick, her expertise

is not law enforcement and you have to ask yourself, this chief as you correctly stated, 21 years, five police officers, they were already short staffed. there must have been something that they felt made it impossible, because of the city manager, to do their job. what it is, we don't know. and very curious to find out what it is. it's not a race case, it's not a race case. >> sandra: and for them -- we don't know, we are still waiting on statements from the town, official statements to come from the police chief. we have seen the resignation letters, seen what they have said, but there is no specific reason that has been provided for what they have described as this toxic work environment so we are waiting on more details. there is obviously more to the story that we hope to learn soon. leo terrell, thanks for joining us on that. >> thank you, sandra. >> john: sandra, they take a hippocratic oath to do no harm. why did dozens of medical

students walk out of a white coat ceremony over a keynote speaker stand on abortion. >> sandra: you have heard from many of the experts out there that we are heading into a recession. so, what is the biden administration fix for this current economic crisis? critics say instead of changing policies, it's trying to now redefine recession? congresswoman will be here to weigh in. >> it's not so much with the economist defining as recession, which you said is two quarters in a row, six months of negative economic growth, but it's what american families feel.

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>> john: california goes woke and now folks could go broke. struggling to fund essential business trips as the state's no travel list gets longer. a live report on how lawmakers protested against laws from other states is hurting the very people that they serve.

taiwan holding widespread air raid drills as aggressive china warns the united states against a possible visit to the island by house speaker nancy pelosi. former spokeswoman for the state department joins us announcement you have some good ideas, morgan, and if you could articulate as to why china has the nickers in such a twist over that. >> good way to put it, john. first of all, i think they see we are taking a death by 1,000 cuts to the one china policy. remember that this would be the most senior visit of someone from the american government since the 1970s, because nancy pelosi leads the legislative branch by protocol. so, why does that matter? well, taiwan, being a part of china, is as important to china and something they are clearly willing to fight over. in the trump administration, we sent senior officials there but we approached it very

differently. when we had a delegation there, they arrived and then there was press afterwards, we did not engage in a lot of media on the trip. so we took a very different approach, as to talking about it ahead of time. why does that matter, john? i really fear this administration is breaking the rule of foreign policy, which is to speak softly and carry a big stick. and they are also sort of backing beijing into a corner, and that's why we are hearing threats, both publicly and privately from the chinese saying there is chatter they might intercept her flight. so, this could get escalated very quickly, and it's very dangerous in my mind that president biden has been talking about this publicly. >> john: here is one of the things the chinese foreign ministry has been saying, the spokesperson says if the u.s. is bent on going its own way, china will take firm and strong measures to defend national sovereignty and territorial

integrity. clear as don't dare come, but why should the u.s. let china dictate terms? >> that's right. and i think, you know, we are used to this kind of rhetoric from the chinese government. they often do saber rattle. listen, they have the 20th party congress coming up this year, xi jinping is looking to be reinstated for another term, so it's hard to game things out. are they serious, would they actually intercept the plane of the speaker of the house. i think a lot of people have doubts. however, i think that we have gone about this the wrong way because we have talked about this publicly, because the trip has been linked, because president biden put it out there, that the military did not want the speaker to go. now we are in a precarious position. this administration has put themselves in that, and precarious position in that she doesn't go, it looks like we are backing down to them. i have to say, she seems to be the person in the administration that at least is the most willing to stand up to them.

you've got other people in the biden administration, granted she's the legislative branch, but other people in the biden administration talking about relieving terrorists, the state department is not talking about the genocide, you don't see the administration leading. instead, a pattern of congress leading the biden administration on foreign policy. >> john: and i'm sure president xi jinping on down detect weakness in that. the military build-up, mark milley will be going to a summit in australia, he said the message is the chinese military in the air and sea have become significantly more and noticeably more aggressive in this particular region. and they have said things about the south china sea should not be a venue for major power conflicts, basically saying in essence, this is our neighborhood, stay the heck out. >> yeah, i think the chinese are

trying to have the monroe doctrine for their region and it does not make sense. first of all, the american navy has a policy to be able to travel and sail in the world in international waters. second, a ton of trade that goes on through the south china sea. you are looking at over a trillion dollars in trade, united states has a presence there because of our allies. trump administration, we changed the ambiguity on the south china sea. it's a wonky policy, but it would behoove the administration to go back to the policy from 2020. >> john: pronouncing the u.s. would come to taiwan's defense. we'll watch this and see where it goes, does not look like it's headed anywhere good. thanks for the analysis, appreciate it. we'll talk more in the next hour with congressman mike gallagher. >> sandra: we look forward to that, john. california's list of states

where state money is not allowed to be used for travel is now growing. 22 states now make california's no travel list. lawmakers banned state funded travel to places with anti-lgbtq laws in 2016. now, some football boosters are going to have to dig deeper into their wallets. william is us. so, william, what was lawmakers' intent when they adopted the travel ban to begin with? >> well, democrats in sacramento had this attitude, either our way or no way. right, when they banned taxpayer funded travel to any state whose policies on any gender-related policies that they disagreed with. right? so, basically they said hey, researchers, academic, sports teams, you can't go to these states. north korea would be fine, but north carolina is not. >> the state of california does

not sanction discrimination against anyone in the lgbt community. >> canceled by california, almost half the u.s. is off limits to state officials and employees, even university professors and sports teams are banned from visiting 22 states if tax money is used. >> this is part of the sort of weird california arrogance which is increasingly not justified. >> for five years, california has banned travel to any state it considers anti-gay or transgender. in north carolina, access to bathrooms, oklahoma, who can adopt. tennessee and ohio, who doctors and therapists treat. kansas, who can belong to a student group. arkansas, florida, montana,s west virginia, because they barred transgender women from competing in female sports. >> some might not care about these things, but here in california we do. >> but the law may be doing more harm than good. with professors complaining they can't do research and athletic

recruiters having to book hotels in neighboring states. u.c.l.a. and cal sports teams have to use private funds for pac-12 competitors, utah and arizona, and when u.c.l.a. joins the big ten, they will face restrictions in iowa, indiana, and ohio. >> this is something that epitomizes and reflects what has become an insane political culture in the state. >> so right, because of the policy, u.c.l.a. has not scheduled a game in a banned state, iowa, purdue, ohio state, won't be able to go there with state funds but endorsement or booster money, sandra. so, that, you know, it's a problem. but again, china is ok. they banned same-sex marriage, but columbus, that's not. >> sandra: really interesting angle to a story we have been following closely. william, thank you very much.

john. >> john: president biden tweeting out a new picture from the white house moments ago. the president tweeting "took some calls this morning with man's best co-worker," he's there on the truman balcony along with commander, the german shepherd he got as a present last year. looks like the president seems to be doing pretty well, given his covid diagnosis and the fact that he has been resting while working, i guess, sandra, everybody else is concerned for his health and safety. >> sandra: looks like he's improving a lot, and 2:15 looks like now is going to be the virtual meeting. he will be holding with the c.e.o.s and labor leaders to discuss the importance, the white house says, of passing the chips act to bolster america's competitive edge. peter doocy will be in the room for fox. we will monitor that. >> commander got big quickly. >> big quickly.

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casey stegall is live in dallas. casey, every year this time of year the system gets stressed and this year is proving no different. and casey can't hear me. casey, are you there? >> i can hear you. >> oh, you can hear me, good. >> john, sorry, some i.f.b. issues. but north american electric reliability council, it oversees a lot of the public utilities and their grids and that agency warns that over half of the united states is at an elevated risk for these blackouts. >> there's no question that extreme weather events are creating greater demand for electricity in this country, primarily through air-conditioning load. >> jim mathison is a former utah congressman and current energy cooperative executive. >> you've got this circumstance where reliability is put into

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>> sandra: federal reserve is moving toward another big interest rate hike as inflation

reaches the highest level in this country in decades. americans are bracing for a 75 raisis point base hike, jackie deangelis, you know as well as those who are listening right now that when those interest rates go up, it's an effort to tackle inflation but that is going to hurt the hard working middle class the most. they are the ones who, you can throw the survey up on the screen, are afraid to check their credit card bills, now the interest rates are skyrocketing, 20% say i don't want to look at it. >> yeah, because the rates are not only going to go up there, but trying to buy a house, your mortgage rates are going to go up, cost of lending, if you want to finance a car, if you can get your hands on a car, the cost of that will go up as well. americans are suffering not just from paying more for things at the grocery store, paying more for gas, etc., but these rates are going to have an impact as well. and then you have a double whammy with the democrats saying at the same time, let's increase

taxes to really destroy demand. how can you bash people with two things at the same time that are that significant? >> larry summers is one of those, economist from a democratic administration, he's also saying we need to raise taxes to crimp demand, to bring inflation down, but he's saying that only because we are where we are today, he was one of the democrats who was saying we are not getting this right, inflation is not going away and we have to do something about this now, the administration did not and that's why we are today and now he is calling for a tax hike. summers. >> i actually think that just the right thing to do is to raise taxes right now to take some of the demand out of the economy. we can generate significant revenues simply by enforcing the tax law and taking some of the -- taking some of the money out of high income tax evaders.

>> sandra: that's where we are, that's the solution. >> solution to a problem that essentially was engineered, prevention would have been the best measure here, stop sending out stimulus checks, stop passing the spending bills where we put money into the economy and the fed stop printing money. we did not get her in a vacuum. >> sandra: they are trying to redefine recession, which traditionally is two straight quarters of contraction in the economy, negative g.d.p. growth, they are saying wait, hold on, because of what's happening around the world, maybe it's not a recession necessarily, because they don't want to be the administration that drove the country into recession. these were just some of the admissions along the way, inflation not as bad as everybody thought, and janet yellen admitting she got it wrong. listen. >> take out those three categories. we have actually seen price increases that are more in line with historical norms. >> there's nobody suggesting

there is unchecked inflation on the way. no serious economist. >> i think i was wrong then about the path that inflation would take. >> sandra: so remember when they say it's part of an economic cycle, this is what we have to do in times of inflation, that we did not have to be here. it did not have to be as bad as it got. >> it definitely didn't. and they are trying to redefine recession because they are afraid, like you said, they don't want it on their record, if you will, they don't want too grab responsibility for it. but wall street futures, the bond market, that tells you what's going on wonky but the -- >> traditionally indicated recession. >> and that's what wall street is watching right now. that's what smart money says. >> sandra: great to have you here, jackie. >> great to be here. >> john: new at 2:00, dozens of medical students who take an oath to do no harm are walking out of the white coat ceremony

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[siren] >> sandra: this is the chilling sound of air raid sirens sounding throughout taiwan. a drill to prepare for the possibility of china's long threatened invasion. >> john: house speaker nancy pelosi headed to taiwan for a controversial trip and china is

sending new stronger warnings that pelosi should not make the trip. >> sandra: mike gallagher says the speaker should not back down. hope you had a great weekend, john. >> john: terrific weekend as well, hope yours was good as well. john roberts in washington. rapid developments out of china ahead, but we begin with the men and women who will have lives in their hands, cannot stand hearing from someone with a different point of view. >> sandra: begin new at 2:00, a walkout from some of our nation's aspiring doctors seen here all because the person speaking was pro life. >> john: dozens of incoming medical students at the university of michigan heading for the doors at their white coat ceremony keynote speaker, assistant professor of medicine at the university. she was nominated by students and members of the gold humanism

honor society, which promotes human connection in healthcare. >> sandra: the professor was not there to talk politics, though, but to give advice to future physicians and those doctors, as you can see, many chose to leave. >> john: here with reaction, but first, the garrett tenney with more. opposing points of view are powerful motivator for some people, it seems. >> yeah, john, latest example of how the abortion debate is hitting center stage at the university of michigan, whether on the football field or the hospital. and yesterday we saw dozens of medical students walking out of their white coat ceremony, some of them joined by their fap list, from this professor, speaking as the keynote speaker. more than half the incoming first year med students allegedly signed a petition demanding the school replace dr. kristen collier, assistant

professor of medicine, protest, or petition said while we support the rights of freedom of speech and religion, anti-choice speaker as a representative of the university of michigan, restrict abortion access, essential part of medical care. university of michigan medical school did not back down and tells us it does not revoke invitations to speakers based on their personal beliefs and that dr. collier never planned to address divisive topics in her remarks. no mention of abortion or politics at all in her speech beyond this brief reference to the controversy as she began. >> i want to acknowledge the deep wounds our community has suffered over the past several weeks. we have a great deal of work to do for healing to occur and i hope that for today, for this

time, we can focus on what matters most. coming together to support our newly accepted students. >> this comes one weekend after michigan's head football coach jim harbaugh drew a lot of heat where he spoke at a right to life fundraiser, reportedly telling the crowd i have living proof in my family, children and many thousands i coached the unborn are amazing gifts from god to make this world a better place. to me the right choice is to have the courage to let the unborn be born. those remarks sparked a lot of outrage on social media where some are now calling for him to be fired. harbaugh, who is one of the highest paid coaches in college football and recently signed a new five-year contract said he is not worried about standing up for what he believes in. john. >> john: the latest on that, garrett, thank you. over to you. >> sandra: a lot to dig into there. and vivek joins us, chairman of

strive asset manager and author of a book out later this year. dig into this, quite a story, i'm also told by the way the group that was protesting there and those that walked out, it included students that you clearly see in the video donning their white medical coats, also included some parents. those that were protesting the decision to have her speak there. why is it that no matter what her stance was on abortion could they not sit and listen to her advice as a physician? >> look, i think there are certain issues that we created as red lines for the progressive movement to say you have to walk out and not only listen to the opposing view but someone who ex pous us the opposing view. particularly ironic and problematic, frankly, at a medical school, there is entire courses of medical training based on actually training physicians on fetal medicine. this is obviously an area of an important area of medicine, because there are nuances to how you respect the life of a fetus

if that weren't the case, an open and shut topic where you didn't have to listen to a speaker at the level of being that ridiculous of idea, you would not have fetal medicine as an area of care. also give care to patients who are pregnant women who may have pro life views, and if your ability to deal with people who have an opposing point of view is that bad that you have to walk out of a speech at your white coat ceremony, i'm worried about the kind of care they would give to patients who have differing points of view, the kind of attention they would bring to other courses of their medical training that place importance on the life of the fetus. and so while it's generally problematic for our culture, not to engage in open dialogue and views, especially problematic at a medical school. >> the petition to remove her from the program, to remove her from speaking there, it was ultimately denied by the school's dean. and i want to make that clear. the denial came on the part of the michigan medical spokesperson, this is the

response to the petition saying the university of michigan does not revoke an invitation to a speaker based on their personal beliefs. however, the white coat ceremony will not be used as a forum to air personal, political or religious beliefs, but focus on welcoming students and the profession of medicine. so they were protesting this before then even know where she was going to go to the speech. she was not expected to focus on abortion or go there, and she did not. no mention of abortion, roe v. wade or any political topic, and here is an excerpt from it. you decide, listen. >> potential to shape the future of the story. if you resist the temptation to see yourself and others as machines. if you ask big questions, as you practice gratitude along the way. welcome to the profession of medicine and go blue. >> so it sounds like pretty good message that she was carrying there, but if you were protesting her personal views on abortion, you didn't hear it.

>> exactly, and why i think the private sector, i think universities, i think medical school above all, these should be protected apolitical sanctuaries, people can come together as she calls for in the speech, whether you are democrat or republican, pro life or pro choice, man or woman, black or white, come together in the shared pursuit of caring for patients and the shared pursuit of delivering care to people who are ill, that's part of what calls people to the medical profession in a unifying way and part of the problem, when politics infects the other previously apolitical spheres of our lives we give solidarity to the society. and a lot of universities have caved in the other direction, but it's going to take leaders like that to preserve the apolitical sanctuaries or politics will seep into everything. >> the dean's own words in the

decision to still have her speak saying he expressed the critical importance of diversity of personal thought and ideas, foundational to academic freedom and excellence is the statement from the dean supporting her still continuing the speech. she says it has inspired her. she said this before she made the speech, finish on this, she's truly grateful for the support, emails, teches, prayers and letters from all over the world, she feels so bolstered by it, and for my team that have carried me daily through this, i love you. see what more comes from that. but very interesting development and to see how the university responded to your point. vivek, great to see you, thank you. >> john: probably a lot of people who would like to take their places if they want to walk out of the auditorium and keep going all the way back home. fox news alert, police responding to dallas love field airport where a woman was firing off gunshots. jeff paul is tracking

developments. jeff, police eventually shot the woman? >> no, no, they did not shoot her, sounds like they engaged with her, hit her on her lower extremity, she's in the hospital. witnesses inside the airport describe a very scary and tense few moments as shots were originally fired. thankfully no one was shot. but police were obviously delayed and we are now learning all travelers are being rescreened by t.s.a. as the airport works to get back on schedule. this all happened at dallas love field just before 11:00 a.m. local time. this is a smaller airport compared to d.f.w. international, and the hub for southwest airlines. investigators say a 37-year-old woman got dropped off, goes inside near the ticket counter. she then goes inside the restroom. comes out, police believe she's now put on a hoodie or different clothing. then she pulls out a handgun and begins firing. >> at this point we don't know where exactly the individual was aiming or most we are seeing,

aiming at the ceiling but there was several rounds that are found simultaneously as she's doing that, our officer engages the suspect, strikes her in the lower extremities. >> now, police officers as we just mentioned quickly engaged with the suspect, striking in the lower extremities, and kind of unclear whether or not she was shot or physically hit but she is in custody and is at the hospital. >> john: yeah, i was wondering about that, jeff, at the top. our understanding was, and maybe it's in the interpretation, that the officer engaged her and struck her in the extremities meant shot her, but maybe -- >> and you would think they would use the word shot if she had been shot, but that's a little unclear right now, and the details are being hashed out. it would make sense with some of the witnesses who reported hearing multiple shots maybe from her and then from the

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>> john: a source tells fox news the investigation into hunter biden is at a "critical stage." jonathan turley asks whether the clock is running out on the president's son. jonathan joins us now, george washington university law professor and fox news contributor. what's the analysis behind the belief time is running out. >> the schedule is pushed by the fact the grand jury has expired. and usually with the expiration, the case is carried over or issuing of indictments. assumption is that the work before this grand jury may have been completed. and so there are these lingering questions what the status is. are they working on a plea, are they, do they have sealed indictments, or have they found no basis to indict at all.

there seems to be credible claims of federal crimes here, from tax fraud to the violation of registration of foreign agents to even smaller offenses like false statements on gun forms. it's hard to believe that they would walk away from those crimes. but john, this is really an example, rather textbook example of why special counsels need to be appointed in these cases. i have a lot of respect for mr. weiss, the u.s. attorney in delaware but already questions, including why haven't they interviewed the president, who has referred to in many of the e-mails as the big guy and supposedly in for a cut of some of the money. >> how jonathan would things be different if a special counsel had been appointed to look into this, as a hold over for the u.s. attorney from the delaware. >> special counsel is expected in most cases to issue a report by leaving it with the u.s.

attorney, the expectation is there will not be a report, that any disclosure of information must be material and necessary for the indictment or the plea. it's a much narrower disclosure for the public. second, the special counsel would just by being independent, resolve some questions. nobody is of the caking -- of casting aspertions on mr. weiss. and influence scheme that netted millions for hunter biden but his uncle is also involved, and the president is all over these records. i mean, he is repeatedly raised in these emails in getting office benefits through a chinese client, of getting funds from shared accounts with hunter, even shared credit cards being used. all of that would seem to make

him a rather relevant witness, but there's no indication he has been called. >> john: so there's something else that we are beginning to run up against as well, and that is the november 8th election, where just three months and maybe two weeks away from november 8th, and department of justice doesn't like to issue indictments to people who are connected politically within either 60 or 90 days frame of election. but seems to me that might be a bit of a tough sell, neither joe biden or hunter biden are on the ballot. >> i think it's a very tough sell and a point that policy can involve a political decision, because the president is not on the ballot. hunter biden is not on the ballot. the fact this is a democratic president does not mean you stop all investigations relating to his family. also that grand jury expired long before even the longest period under that policy. the policy prevents prosecutors

from scheduling moves or changes for the purpose of influence an election. this was clearly something driven by the grand jury itself. i don't see how this is relevant but there does come a point the use of those policies can themselves be challenged as a political decision. >> all right. we'll keep watching this and see what, if anything, happens. good call-in on this today as well, john. >> sandra: dave chappelle surprising a new york audience as the opening abt for kevin hart and chris rock, said he had to sneak his way into madison square garden, a club in minneapolis canceled his show citing social media backlash. >> john: and nancy pelosi is set to visit taiwan. >> sandra: the military is not a

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>> john: fox weather alert to start us off, no relief for the searing heat for millions across america. >> sandra: a live look at west lawn springs, oklahoma, on the arkansas border. high there, 101°, with the heat index making it feel more like 108. >> john: it's not a dry heat. not much better to the east. augusta, georgia, just below 100 at 98. >> sandra: east to the north carolina coast, ocean breeze not enough to avoid a heat index of 100° in kitty hawk.

>> john: and here in the northeast, some pretty violent thunderstorms. >> sandra: heat everywhere. more than 52 million people are at risk of seeing severe storms throughout the evening, good time to download the fox weather app to stay informed on the dangerous weather that may be headed your way. [siren] >> john: heat of a different kind in the western pacific. sirens going off in taiwan in the possible case that china launches a missile attack. holding drills china's recent aggression raises fears that day may be coming soon. >> sandra: china is ratcheting up aggression ahead of a trip by nancy pelosi to taiwan. the military does not think the trip is a good idea. mike gallagher says the president is giving china veto power over congressional travel

and the speaker should stand up to the communist nation by going to taiwan. he will join us in moments. >> john: looking forward to that. fox team coverage of the rising threat starts now, lauren tracking china's growing real estate empire, farm empire across the united states. but first, a senior foreign correspondent, any new reaction from china to pelosi's trip? >> there was more talked to from beijing as tensions are high over china, over taiwan, the u.s. a big stake in it all and a big role as well. residents scrambled as you noticed in taipei during an air raid drill. that island nation is claimed by china as its own. this is taiwan air force fighter jets took to the skies as well preparing for a possible chinese invasion. again, all prescheduled exercises but yes, they come at a time beijing has intensified

its reaction to a possible visit to taiwan next month by democratic house speaker nancy pelosi. a spokesman for the chinese foreign ministry saying his country is concerned, take strong measures and there would be serious consequences if she goes. and yes, as president biden noted, the u.s. military does not think pelosi so should go. general mark milley in asia, noted the message is the chinese military in the air and sea have become more significantly and noticeably more aggressive in this region. of course, as the u.s. worries about the china threat, another worry on both sides of the aisle is that a pelosi no-show in china will send absolutely the wrong, to taiwan, excuse me, will send the wrong message to beijing. so far, the speaker is not discussing her travel plans, to be continueed.

>> john: we look forward to you continuing the story for us. thank you so much. >> sandra: chinese investors are snachting up billions of dollars worth of u.s. real estate across the country as we have been reporting, raising major nation security concerns. >> i don't think they should be able to do it. the problem is the companies have ties to the c.c.p. and it's not always apparent on the face of whatever company is doing. but i think it's a huge problem. >> sandra: lauren is on this, so it's not just homes these companies are buying up, it's other things as well. >> farmland, sandra. so, as of 2019, china owned 192,000 acres of american farmland, worth $1.9 billion. a drop in the bucket compared to the 900 million acres we have in this great country, but it's alarming should beijing use it to influence our food security or national security. gillian turner was reporting on 300 acres a chinese company bought in north dakota for

reported $2.6 million. they say this, that it went through an extensive site selection process and ultimately selected grand forks, north dakota, because of the availability of corn, proximity to natural gas infrastructure and abundant water supply, readily accessible rail and interstate transportation and the quality of the workforce in the area. we should point out, sandra, this grand forks location is just down the road from a u.s. air force base that houses critical drone technology. and on the residential side of things, china swapping up $6.1 billion worth of homes last year, the most of any foreign buyer in this country. they bought the most in california and in florida, half paid for in cash. why california, silicon valley, the hub for technology and innovation, and why florida, well you heard at the top from governor ron desantis for the farmland. he calls it a huge problem,

considering the ties to the communist party and some rules that take place where you can shield the exact ownership by having a joint venture, if you will. >> john: china has another message for western leaders, stop hyping china as a threat. that coming from the foreign ministry spokesman in beijing in response to the leading contender to be britain's next prime minister after he called china the biggest threat to britain and the world. but if they are worried about that branding, recent behavior suggests otherwise. last november china's military built a replica of a u.s. navy aircraft carrier. the pictures show the fake ships. the belief is they were target practice for china's military, getting troops familiar with attacking one of the u.s. navy's most prized assets. let's bring in wisconsin republican congressman mike gallagher, start you on nancy

pelosi's what we believe will be a trip in the near future to taiwan. china is certainly rattling the sabres to say she shouldn't come. you support her making that trip. why? >> well, the chinese communist party is trying to intimidate us, trying to coerce us and remarkably, it seems the biden administration and biden's pentagon is helping them do that by proactively backing down and telling pelosi not to go, and raises an important question. if we are too afraid to allow congressional delegations as the taiwan travel act explicitly calls for, it calls for increasing interaction between leadership of all levels in both countries, if we are too afraid to let that small thing happen, how are we ever going to expedite arm sales to taiwan? for all this worry about when will xi jinping start an invasion of taiwan, i would submit to you this is part of the invasion plan.

in some meaningful respect it's already begun, by trying to coerce us, afraid and lose our will to defend taiwan, that's how they hope to achieve objectives, potentially without fighting. >> john: you put out a press release, you wrote this is a bad message from the president who said the u.s. military leaders don't want her to go and overall weak message for u.s. foreign policy. i urge speaker pelosi not to back down. i think the right approach would be to take a bigger congressional delegation and reach out to congressional republicans and bring them along on the trip and strong message that we won't back down in the face of chinese intimidation. you think there's a rare moment here for bipartisanship in standing up to china? >> i really do, in my work on the house armed services committee i've worked with democratic colleagues to expedite the purchase of long range fires and ships to defend taiwan. passed numerous provisions in

the defense bill geared toward clarifying and strengthening our commitment to taiwan and note, though i disagree with nancy pelosi on almost everything and no tears when she is no tears when she is no longer speaker of the house, she does have a long track record of being willing to criticize the chinese communist party. i would encourage her to continue to do that, and invite them on the congressional trip, i think we have a rare opportunity to send a bipartisan message of strength as opposed to backing down, projecting weakness and the weakness inviting further aggression by the chinese communist party. >> john: which brings me to the point i was going to ask you about of the u.s., if the biden administration does not get more assertive toward china, which is always complained but now it's at the point it's trying to push the u.s. around. if the biden administration does not get more assertive with china, is it inevitable they will make a play for taiwan? >> i believe we are entering the

window of maximum danger. escalates in january of 2024, taiwan holds election and the same year we will be consumed with our own election, we are in the danger zone out. move heaven and earth to learn the lessons of ukraine and arm them before it's too late. it will be hard to resupply them when and if the invasion occurs. i think it's wishful naive thinking that xi jinping will suddenly abandon his lifelong ambition of taking taiwan because we show the other cheek, or we invite him to a summit at davos or cop 26. biden administration needs to get tough, moving, and we all need to support the defense of taiwan before it's too late. >> john: indications that putin wanted to take ukraine were there for all to see, looks like xi jinping has similar designs on taiwan. i think it probably would behoove every leader in the

country from the top on down to pay attention to that. congressman mike gallagher, thank you for coming on today. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> john: and also talk, sandra, china has expanded the military and built big things, take a look at the aircraft carrier, china's most modern aircraft carrier, and actually has an electromagnetic catapult that works, unlike some of our new aircraft carriers. they are doing it with dollars taken from the wallets of american consumers and maybe it's time for a strategic decoupling with china. >> sandra: see what happens at the meeting. members of congress and beyond are speaking out about the trip, john. we'll be watching that. meanwhile, the white house are trying to change the definition of a recession. ahead of more potential bad news on the american economy. so, will hard working americans paying the price for all this buy it? we'll ask new york congresswoman nicole mallliotakis. >> john: ever send your d.n.a.

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>> john: when it comes to the economy, critics are blasting the biden administration for refusing to call it like it is. congresswoman nicole mallliotakis moments away on the white house trying to redefine the word recession. but first, lawmakers are warning americans it's now possible for our enemies to target bioweapons down to individual people. how? your d.n.a., which many of us seem very comfortable in giving

away. congressional correspondent chad pergram is on capitol hill with more. chad, this was sort of the subject of the latest james bond film, we may be our own worst enemy. >> that's right, john, enemy may be inside us, if adversaries can weaponize our own d.n.a. and convert it into a bioweapon. >> people will rapidly spit into a cup and send it to 23 and me and get interesting data about the background and the d.n.a. is now owned by a private company, it can be sold off. >> people can hide behind a mask or online, but you cannot hide your genetic code. former c.i.a. officer ran marks says the chinese have files on 80% of all americans and it's possible they could use d.n.a. information against us, or others, say the uyghur population in china. >> targeting individual minority groups and looking at some form

of genetic engineering to decrease the capability of population growth, say for instance for different groups. >> 23 and me did not respond to a request for comment but c.e.o. notes no one is forced to hand over information. >> felt you should be entitled to your information and then put it on the individual, like if you want to share it in your way, like allow you to share it. 80% of our customers opt in to research. not like they have to click out of it, like they are electing to opt into research. >> there are several bills in congress to beef up american privacy laws, but ron mark says the chinese are not the only ones exploring this technology. u.s. is working on it as well. john. >> john: well, that's a comforting thought. chad pergram on capitol hill. thank you. >> i do want to emphasize what a

recession really means is a broad-based contraction in the economy and even if that number is negative, we are not in a recession now. when you are creating almost 400,000 jobs a month, that is not a recession. >> sandra: the white house trying to redefine recession as economists are predicting another drop in quarterly economic growth. nicole mallliotakis, says this is the white house trying to avoid to call it a recession because it's likely the white house policies that got it there. people feel what they feel, credit card bills are going up, wages are down, eating up by inflation and just don't feel good about their economic situation right now, and that is showing up in the polls. does it matter what we call it? >> yeah, i think it really doesn't matter what you call it. it is by definition a recession. >> sandra: if we go down two

quarters. >> two quarters, find out later this week. i will say the democrats have a real problem on their hands because it's been under one party democratic rule they have gone down this path. the inflation rate was around 1.1 when president trump left, now 9.1% this last month. it is because of president biden policy to incentivize people to stay home rather than report to work in the early days of his administration we have supply chain issues, they decided to spend money and as a result that money has now created inflation that has caused people to take more out of people's pockets. gave with one hand when they gave the stimulus checks but now costing the american family thousands of more dollars. >> sandra: and talking about spending more. and as a journalist, to be sure, i've always asked economists you know, what is your definition of recession because it's not uncommon to have an economist have a different explanation of

what they view as a recession. it is traditionally accepted, though, that if you dip two straight quarters in economic growth, g.d.p., that is seen by most economists as a traditional recession. but this is something the american people are paying for, and the very people this administration says they are out to help the most, the hard-working middle class and if you don't admit that you are getting it wrong, how do you fix it? here is janet yellen a little flashback to getting it wrong. >> i don't see that the markets are expecting inflation to rise above the 2% objective that the fed has as an average inflation rate over the longer run. i believe through the rest of the year to see higher inflation rates, maybe around 3%. >> at the end of the year, not

2%? >> probably closer to 4%. >> sandra: you know what i say, oops. because she's admitted she got it wrong. >> and more than double that now. and people have to understand, republicans, despite the minority, fought hard to kill the build back broke agenda, would have added another 4.5 trillion in spending, even we are in the minority we are doing our best to push back and be somewhat responsible in our approach. what we really need is to start looking at all the government programs and saying hey, where can we be -- what programs are not working here, what kind of spending. there are so many different departments and agencies and programs and things that we can be looking at and then we have to offset that spending, instead of spending additional money --

>> sandra: what does the three-month plan look like, and you have to suffer economically as a country to tackle inflation. >> going through a difficult time, we all need to sacrifice here and the american people are. with you really, we have to also reenergize it domestically, food prices increasing, gas prices, energy costs, that is really what is fueling a lot of the problems that americans are facing. if we can restore our energy independence, more responsible with looking at where we can safe and offset spending, i think that would be a really good start. but right now, it does not matter what the president saying, does not matter what yellen is saying, the people are feeling it under one party democratic rule, paying more at the grocery store, the gas pump and every day of life and partially the democrats want that control over people. the more people that rely on government, that's the more control they are going to have. end of the day, the solution is create more programs, spend more

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>> sandra: a woman in dallas was driving with a friend late at night when she was side-swiped. he said she didn't think the damage was bad but pulled over

anyway to exchange info with the driver. but as soon as she opened the door, an attacker spit in her face. she said the other driver was irate and he brutally beat her. police are investigating. so far no arrests. >> yo, yo. all right, all right, all right. >> john: even a house of worship is not safe. a live stream capturing a group of men waving guns at a bishop in brooklyn in the middle of sunday's service. the bishop says the men stole hundreds of thousands of dollars of jewelry from him and his wife. >> stunning video from the nypd showing a man being run down on a bronx street. instead of helping the victim, the people in the car get out

and steal items. the victim we're told is in critical condition. >> john: and to finish out on a happier note, a hump back whale breaching the water and landing on the bow of a boat off the coast of massachusetts. the boat didn't sink, but they might want a bigger boat. >> amazing footage there. great to be with you. i'm sandra smith. >> john: i'm john roberts. "the story" with martha starts right now. >> martha: love that whale breaching on the front of that boat. that's a wake-up call. i'm martha maccallum. glad to have you with us. joining us today, karl rove and lisa boothe as president biden faces stunning calls to just quit ahead of the 2024 race. we'll tell you the very interesting places that those calls are coming from. senior adviser to. biden, gene sperling joins us as the economy and an evolving narrative out of the white house